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Speaker 3: And welcome back. I am Dale Lolly, he is the

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. And well, as we promised yesterday, we would

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Speaker 3: do a mock draft today, working off the basis that

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Speaker 3: we're moving forward with justin fields at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 3: How does that say not a ton?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I would put a slightly less emphasis on

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Speaker 1: running back, but you still need one and you're not

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Speaker 1: going to ignore it. Does it put a little bit

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Speaker 1: more emphasis on defense for you play a little lower scoring,

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Speaker 1: grind the clock a little bit, maybe a little bit,

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Speaker 1: you know, right, I mean, try to get teams off

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Speaker 1: the field, create turnovers, create a little more splash to

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Speaker 1: help the younger quarterback maybe a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 3: Like breaks ties that way. Yeah, I agree, and in either.

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Speaker 1: Case, so I'm open to drafting the right quarterback though

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Speaker 1: at the right price.

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Speaker 3: You know. We're using, of course, as we did yesterday,

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Speaker 3: the Pro Footballnetwork dot Com mock drafter, and we're picking

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Speaker 3: twenty first, as is the case here, and so we're

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Speaker 3: coming down to our pick here and see what happens here.

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Speaker 3: Guy falling right now? They shouldn't be falling. He just went, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 3: well all right. So we got trade offers, as we

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Speaker 3: usually do, three of them. Tampa Bay. Once again, we're

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Speaker 3: not interested in Tampa Bay. You're trying to trade us

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Speaker 3: your second round draft pick. No, thank you. Reject that.

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Speaker 3: Philadelphia wants to give us pick thirty one, pick sixty

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Speaker 3: three and the twenty twenty six fifth round draft pick

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Speaker 3: for pick twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't so bad. I would consider strong. Consider that, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Who to take more piece more picks.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we could even talk him into a fourth instead

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Speaker 3: San Francisco wants to give us forty three to ninety

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Speaker 3: nine and next year's second round draft pick. Really far, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's too far. We'll do that in a month. Consider

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Speaker 3: the thirty first pick. But I want to see who's available,

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Speaker 3: no question. So Tyler Warren who we took yesterday? There?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Jaylen Walker linebacker out of Georgia. Benjamin Morrison, cornerback at

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Speaker 3: a Notre Dame. Derek Carmon defensive tackle from Oregon, Nickmari

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Speaker 3: the safety from Texas, Mike Greene, edge rusher out of Marshall,

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Speaker 1: Okay, So it brings up a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: different angle to me in that now it's Fields not Wilson.

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Speaker 1: I think Fields is more prone to throw to the

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Speaker 3: Throw go balls.

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Speaker 1: You know, back to our tight end conversation from last

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Speaker 1: year or from yesterday, would you be more apt to

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Speaker 1: go for Warren if you had Fields or if you

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Speaker 1: just like, would you consider a difference making tight end

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just throwing it out there, and we

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Speaker 1: I tried to get to turn the fifth in four.

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Speaker 3: we can get that, all right, So that would be

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, that's a lot for them to give up

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Speaker 3: Rough THREUTEAE. They accepted it all right.

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Speaker 3: They came up to take Walter Nolan.

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Speaker 1: Wow, pretty good group of defense tackles. Yeah, Milton Williams

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Speaker 1: Amos just went nah, that would have been a nice market.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to reject both offers that we got

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Speaker 3: Guy top guys available. Derek Harmon, defensive tackle out of Oregon.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if he's a first rounder.

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Speaker 1: I don't either need to do more work on him.

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Speaker 1: Like I see the allure, but the little I watched.

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Speaker 3: and he plays a slot. He does everything, he does everything. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Xavier wats a safety at a Notre Dame. Somebody wants

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Speaker 3: think he's a Cale Hamilton type. G Hud Campbell linebacker

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Speaker 1: I'd be more prone to do that now that we

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Trey Harris, wide receiver out of Ole, Miss, Xavier Rostropo,

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Speaker 3: wide receiver from Miami, Landon Jackson, Kenneth grant Is there

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Speaker 3: princely human ame Alynn ed Rusher, at Ole, Miss Deontay Walker,

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Speaker 1: I like there's two of those noses, Walker and Grant

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Speaker 3: I think I'd probably go with the running back Marion Hampton. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I think I would too. Swing for the fencer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean a home run hitter that can do

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Speaker 1: all that, just playmakers on offense. If we hadn't made

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Speaker 1: you know, and fill your needs with all you know

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Speaker 3: But Matt, you never take running backs in the first round.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing. The thirty first pick in the draft

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Speaker 3: the only difference. I think you do it Mario and Hampton.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna run the ball a lot.

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Speaker 1: That's and I said I was gonna be less apt

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Speaker 1: to take a running back. But he's the best player.

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Speaker 3: On the board. Yeah, all right, I'm gonna pause here

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Speaker 3: just for a minute. We're picked forty six. We have

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Speaker 3: our first pick at pick fifty two. The top guys

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Speaker 3: available Landon Jackson. I don't know if he fits the

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Speaker 3: defense here. Kenneth Grant is still there, very appealing. Prince

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Speaker 3: miss arianta URSII from Minnesota, the offensive tackle, Jylen Milroe,

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Speaker 3: Kyle Knard, TJ. Sanders. There's some guys there I'm interested in.

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Speaker 3: There's one guy in particular, and yeah, where did you pause? It.

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Speaker 3: We're picked forty six. So the next team's up are Atlanta.

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Speaker 3: Atlanta's not going to take him, Arizona. Arizona's not gonna

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's a I mean, I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much these the software does, these sites dig into it,

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Speaker 3: The Bengals they're not taken out. The Seahawks, they absolutely

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Speaker 3: they could Denver they're not taking. So we roll the dice.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I think if you lose and to end

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Speaker 1: up with Grant, I'm happy. Yeah. The receiver from Texas

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Speaker 3: For somebody else out there that I'm interested in too.

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Speaker 3: Andrew mccoub mccoub by the safety.

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Speaker 1: From Texas, Okay, yeah, yeah, he makes a lot of

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Speaker 1: place a slot. Yeah, that's he's just a good football player.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's Branch, but he kind of has

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Speaker 3: I think he just wait, Okay, I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's enough names there that I you know.

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Speaker 3: t J. Sanders. He just went Jaylen Milroe goes to

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Speaker 3: Maybe you know, now Seattle wants to make a trade

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Speaker 3: with us, No, thank you, guys, unless you want to

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Speaker 1: Us Milroe, give us Gino. We already got fields.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm not interested. That's okay. So Landon Jackson

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Speaker 1: That's absolutely fine. What's the best receiver or corner I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have picks now at sixty three and eighty

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Speaker 3: sixty three, eighty three coming up. Just grab because he's

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Speaker 3: player available. Yeah, looking here at wide receiver, you got

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Speaker 3: Matthew Golden, Jayden Higgins, Jalen Royals, Ricky White, Torry Holton.

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Speaker 3: Defensively, cornerback, you're looking at Darien Porter from Iowa State. Davison, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Ohio State, Dorian Strong, Daleen Everett, AZII A. Thomas. I

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Speaker 3: think you take Grant, ik, you take Grant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Plus you don't then have to pay on the open

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Speaker 3: market for a big.

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Speaker 1: Dude, right right, I mean Benton Fokan Jobi's here or

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Speaker 1: not goes to that role. Yeah, Grant immediately in searchs

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Speaker 1: there doesn't play on passing downs, you don't lead them

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Speaker 3: Now there's another guy there that I'm interested in at

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Speaker 1: This third pick or before you you didn't put the

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Speaker 3: Okay, Denzel Burke just went okay, we're up again, and

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Speaker 3: Omar Norman lot is still there.

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Speaker 1: We'll be making strengths, extreme strengths and just having the

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Speaker 3: Like none, I'll tell you none of the cornerbacks, like

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Speaker 3: Matthew Golden is still there. Jayden Higgins is still there.

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Speaker 1: I prefer Golden though, and I'm flat out pillaging this

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Speaker 3: See, I think Jalen Royals could go if he works

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Speaker 3: six to one, he's gone. He's a track guy, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Either school with me?

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Speaker 1: you get if they're the best defensive lineman's on the board, Tennessee, dude,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that he's played enough that I want to.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't pick him over the receivers. Mccouba is still there,

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Speaker 1: Suddenly there's some defensive backs that have a chance to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what receiver do you prefer? I like him both.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how realistic it is that Golden is

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Speaker 1: I think if it's Wilson, you'd definitely take the Speedster.

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Speaker 1: If it fields, I don't think it matters either way.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, we'll take Golden either school. Yeah, take Golden. Okay,

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Speaker 3: now we got to start thinking running back here too.

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Speaker 3: At some point we took one in the first round.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what am I thinking?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? We're good. There is the biggest need.

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Speaker 3: Corner, Yeah, a defensive back.

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Speaker 3: That might be something that you have to fill in

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Speaker 3: free agency.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a whole nother segment. But there's six or

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Speaker 3: That I would be very interested in a free agency.

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Speaker 3: I also want to see what Corey Trice can be.

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Speaker 3: Is a you know, he's not a throwaway all right,

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Speaker 3: we at the Minnesota's on the phone. They want to

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Speaker 3: give us pick ninety seven and one thirty nine for

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Speaker 3: eighty three and two forty six.

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Speaker 1: I don't think trading down in the mid round.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna hold jack that. Yeah, all right. Top

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Speaker 3: players available regardless of position. The edge rusher out of BC. Oh,

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Speaker 3: he's not going to be there. Dorian Strong, the cornerback

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Speaker 3: out of Virginia Tech. It's a big guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's appealing.

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Speaker 3: David Walker, edg rusher out of Central Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: Ed rushers are great and they're gonna be a lot

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Speaker 3: Ashton Jilot the edge rusher out of Louisville. Holland Pierce

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Speaker 3: offensive tackle from Rutgers. DJ Giddens running back from k State.

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Speaker 3: Elijah or Rojo tight end from Miami. It's a past

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Speaker 3: Jabbar Mohammad cornerback out of Oregon. Shamar Turner defensive tackle

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Speaker 3: I believe I think so. I'm thinking to the right

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Speaker 1: I know they have three that are gonna be picked.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the guys are more endish. Gray's Abel was there

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Speaker 3: the offensive tackle on in North Dakota State. Will Howard interesting,

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Speaker 3: we haven't taken a quarterback. What quarterbacks are there? I

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Speaker 3: think Howard is the best of the group, but let

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Speaker 3: me take a look here and who else is available?

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Speaker 3: So Howard, Quinn, yours, Curtis Rourke, Dylan Gabriel, Kyle McCord,

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Speaker 1: McCord's another one Kuyper was alluding to, is gonna go

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Speaker 3: I don't know enough about him. I know that the

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Speaker 3: Ohio State fans hate them. Pure pocket passer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think if we went with Fields, I

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Speaker 3: I don't have a problem with going with Will Howard.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that. I was also thinking the the

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Speaker 3: He would be attractive. He's high on the list and

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Speaker 3: corners are massive. He's six one five, that's fine. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: He's never going to be huge. That would be my vote,

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Speaker 3: but I don't mind the Ohio State dute either. All right,

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Speaker 3: we'll take him cornerback. It is Dorian Strong in Virginia Tech.

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Speaker 3: Now we don't have another picked until one sixty two. Gap.

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Speaker 3: We got one sixty two, one sixty five, and two

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Speaker 3: twenty six. No, we have one at one twenty one.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry we didn't trade that away. It doesn't show.

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Speaker 3: It shows you your next pick over to the left.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't show you. Then it has your other picks

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Speaker 1: So makes you a little difficult deep tight end draft.

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Speaker 1: And there could be someone of interest there. I know

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Speaker 1: it's a terrible place to shop for tackles, but I

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Speaker 1: swing guy as a rookie. Another back seems crazy after

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Speaker 1: you use the first round pick on one, but the

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Speaker 3: If he's a kind can ask for you know, your

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Speaker 3: first round draft pick to return kicks. Dallas is on

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Speaker 3: the phone. Dallas went saw off for pich one pick

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Speaker 3: one twenty one, Jerry Getaddy. That's a lot of work. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: all right, so top players available, base sholl tooton running

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Speaker 3: back out of Virginia Tech. Anthony Belton, offensive tackle and

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Speaker 3: Lander Barton, linebacker out of Utah, film offa running back

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Speaker 3: out of Clemson. Charles Grant, offensive tackle.

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Speaker 1: Charles Grants, that'd be great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely like that. Jordan Phillips, a defensive tackle

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Speaker 1: I actually have heard good things about Charles Grant. Number

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Speaker 1: two is yeah, small schools. Why he's just low right now?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you gotta think that Mike Toma might know

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Speaker 3: a little bit about the William and Merry guy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, said things going off in my head like

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Speaker 1: crazy with him too, because supposedly he's a really good athlete.

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Speaker 1: You have you drafted tackles in the top two rounds.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he could basically red.

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Speaker 3: Shirt this year and maybe is a guard down the

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Speaker 3: road maybe right, I don't know, I would be very appealing.

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Speaker 3: I think that's appealing. Yeah. The top quarterback available is

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Speaker 1: Okay, so but if he's only a pocket passer, I

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Speaker 3: Charles Grant, Oh yeah, Charles, Charles.

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Speaker 1: How happy that makes me. We're gonna line those guys

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Grant, Grant, Yeah, he's so great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, those things tickle me to know, and

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Speaker 1: I know, right right, but I think that's a decent

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Speaker 3: So thus far then we have gotten Omarion Hampton at

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I like it. Big guys, slot safety, special

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Speaker 1: teamer would be something to look at. Tight end I'd

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Speaker 1: consider start throw quarterback doesn't sound crazy? I mean, right now,

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Speaker 1: how many quarterbacks are being in camp as of this

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Speaker 1: draft sounds like two Adams Thompson, Robinson.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeahright, Kyle mcgonaghey running back out of Rutgers, Raheem

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Speaker 3: Yaha Black defensive tackle still there. Yeah, some people think

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Speaker 3: RJ RJ. Harvey running back out of UCF. Danny Stutsman,

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Speaker 1: See, like, if we hadn't gone running back in the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a crazy draft for those guys. Take two

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Speaker 3: I'm just looking here. Ifisian's Price Sock cornerback out of Washington. Okay,

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Speaker 3: have you seen that name yet? Because he is six

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Speaker 3: four one ninety point.

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Speaker 1: No, we took one, but I don't care. You can

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Speaker 3: He is a definite outside cornerback.

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Speaker 1: That's what they like.

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Speaker 3: I'm just looking here.

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Speaker 3: Zah Frasier's there, the cornerback from UTSA who at the

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Speaker 1: So we took one recently, but another corner just to

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Speaker 3: Defensive tackles again. Wouldn't bother me to double down at

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Speaker 3: the episode. I don't want another nose. I want to

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Speaker 1: team or at this point.

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Speaker 3: So you got Jake bringing stool, brings his own stool

435
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Speaker 3: to the bringing the school. He's from Clemson. Gavin Bartholomew

436
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:50,920
Speaker 3: from Pitt Jalen.

437
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Speaker 1: Comedy is a kind of a fit too. He's a

438
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Speaker 1: tough guy in line dude.

439
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jalen Kanye's from Texas Tech. Thomas Faedon from Nebraska,

440
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 3: Drake Dabney from TCU, Jeremy Jermaine Terry from Oregon State,

441
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 3: Cole Taylor from West Virginia, Mitchell Evans from Notre Dame

442
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 3: parthol Of. He is the one I know and I

443
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,399
Speaker 3: wouldn't have a problem with.

444
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

445
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 3: Bryson Nesbit from North Carolina is kind of interesting to

446
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 3: me tight end. Yeah, Okay, last year he caught a

447
00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 3: ton of passes because well they had a good quarterback.

448
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 3: This year now gone, Yeah, this year not so much,

449
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 3: but more of a pass catching tight end. I think

450
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 3: he's more the seventh round guy though.

451
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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, that's a name to know though.

452
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know this. I don't love any of

453
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 3: this really, to be honest with you.

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Speaker 1: The best available regardless position.

455
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Speaker 3: Regardless of position, not it's blowing your doors off. It's

456
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Speaker 3: all running backs. Yeah, yeah, like one of take another

457
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 3: running back by Dallas, want to trade up with it? Maybe,

458
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 3: so maybe you take Marcus Macbow. Oh yeah, I think

459
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 3: that's a mistake from what I've learned a little bit

460
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Speaker 3: about him. Well, say R. J. Harvey is still there too. Again,

461
00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:21,720
Speaker 3: some of those guys may fall. But Jalen Noel from

462
00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 3: a wide receiver from Iowa State. You doubled out the

463
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Speaker 3: wide receiver position in this one.

464
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: What's his profile? What's he doing?

465
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Speaker 3: He uh has an explosive release in stride, improving route running.

466
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Speaker 3: Should be a Day two pick in the draft. Recording

467
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Speaker 3: of this had one thousand yards and six touchdowns this season.

468
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't object to bringing another receiver.

469
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Speaker 3: And another receiver to the mix. Let's do that, all right,

470
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Speaker 3: few receivers.

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Speaker 1: That's not terrible, right, traded down you get the little

472
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Speaker 1: bonus press. So now we just have seventh rounders.

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Speaker 3: We got uh yeah, we got two twenty six remaining

474
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Speaker 3: two twenty six and two forty six remaining here. So

475
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Speaker 3: it's gonna take us a little while or to get there.

476
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Speaker 3: But just thing paused on me here? What's going on here?

477
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Speaker 1: I'd consider any position at this point, but some of

478
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Speaker 1: these face special special teams.

479
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Speaker 3: Stands out. Oh we're up now? Did I not make

480
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Speaker 3: that pick?

481
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Speaker 1: I thought I did.

482
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Speaker 3: That's bad radio.

483
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all right. We won't lose any listeners over that.

484
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Speaker 3: No, of course not h No, we're actually up again here.

485
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: We must have. I didn't realize we traded for that pick.

486
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 3: So we are up again here, and.

487
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Speaker 1: I'm sure it's not real fruitful of what's No.

488
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Speaker 3: It's not it's not a great I'm just looking here

489
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Speaker 3: at safeties. Yuck cornerback. Well, if esian's price sock is

490
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 3: still there, six foot four corner.

491
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Speaker 1: Yeah, take me right right right?

492
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Speaker 3: We like big corners.

493
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I practice squad it all year or whatever. But

494
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: have a rookie year like Trice or something like that,

495
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Speaker 1: you know, might be happy about the four corner. Yeah,

496
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: I mean land of the giants in that cornerback room.

497
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Speaker 3: That's what you're looking for. That's exactly their profile, right.

498
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,240
Speaker 3: I don't know if any of them can play the slot.

499
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 3: Probably not, But that's to find those guys too. Yeah,

500
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 3: you got Beanie Bishop for now, right, there'll be competition

501
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 3: for him too, And there's no question in my mind. Yeah,

502
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 3: all right, we're cruising down here. Now we get two

503
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,440
Speaker 3: picks left and pick two twenty six coming up here.

504
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 3: I should have speeded this up a little bit.

505
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Speaker 1: This could be running back land.

506
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Speaker 3: I would take a second running back here to somebody

507
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: that was Again, he could be smaller, he could be

508
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 3: doesn't even matter.

509
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, these are guys are going to get

510
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: the fifth round grades in the seventh round.

511
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Speaker 3: But I think you know, one of the things to

512
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Speaker 3: your point, what you want to do, if it is fields,

513
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 3: is you want to continue to build your defense. Oh yeah, yeah,

514
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: keep that very strong in my mind.

515
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: You need a big play defense. It doesn't can get

516
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: off the field. Yeah, another D lineman wouldn't break my heart.

517
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,320
Speaker 1: I mean at this point, if there's an edge you'll like,

518
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing to shy away from me, tide linebacker.

519
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: So the top guys available Glendon Miller, safety out of Maryland. Yeah,

520
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 3: but Glenn done. You got Javari Ritzi, defensive tackle from

521
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 3: North Carolina. I'm just looking at you. See if there's

522
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:33,439
Speaker 3: anybody that Mario Anderson junior running back at A Memphis

523
00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,680
Speaker 3: five eight two oh six. Not much about them, but okay,

524
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 3: I do know that the Memphis running backs have They've

525
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 3: always done well, always done well. Here's one guy that

526
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,160
Speaker 3: is kind of interesting to me, and that's JJ Pegas

527
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 3: from Ole Miss running back, no defensive tackle. Oh, he's

528
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 3: more of a long.

529
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I have no problem taking a big compete

530
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 1: with like Logan Lee yep, louder Milk replacement type.

531
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Probably into the Yeah, into the middle, I'd say him.

532
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 3: Or the safety that's the top of the boarder. One

533
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 3: of those took Vegas. We'll see about to see what

534
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 3: happens here at the last last pick. Here we get

535
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 3: coming up at two forty six. We're getting close here

536
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 3: and and we're out all right. Uh, Top guys available.

537
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 3: Aiden Huntington from Tulane defensive tackle, Tyler Battye ede rusher

538
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: out of b Yu Nash Hutmasher, defensive tackle from Nebraska

539
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 3: Lea Quin Allen, running back out of Syracuse.

540
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: Oh, he's a good receiver, he's got I think that's

541
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:38,600
Speaker 1: a nice pick too.

542
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, there it is the Quinn Allen.

543
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: No, he's he's kind of like a Tyrone Tracy type. Yeah,

544
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: kick return probably possibilities. Why not. I'm going with that.

545
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: We had some extra picks there, we used them.

546
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, we doubled down a compositions.

547
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 3: Absolutely, there's corners two d line. All right. So we

548
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 3: ended up with the Amari and Hampton running back out

549
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,719
Speaker 3: of North Carolina pick thirty one. At pick fifty two,

550
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 3: we took Kenneth Grant picked sixty three, Matthew Golden, the

551
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 3: wide receiver out of Texas. Eighty three was Dorian Strong,

552
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 3: cornerback out of Virginia Tech. One twenty one was Charles Grant,

553
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: the offensive tackle, might be a guard from William and Mary.

554
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: At one sixty two, we took Jayalen Noelle, the wide

555
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 3: receiver from Iowa State. One sixty five Ephesians price sock.

556
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 3: I'd have to learn how to spell that one? At

557
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 3: one sixty five, cornerback out of Washington two twenty six.

558
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 3: We took JJ pegas defensive lineman out of Ole Miss,

559
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 3: so we doubled down on the defensive line there. But

560
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 3: they're different ones and edge ones and those.

561
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

562
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 3: And then Leaquin Allen, the running back out of Syracuse

563
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 3: at two forty six. Cool, Okay, there we go, there

564
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 3: we go. I like the trade down. Yeah, not bad.

565
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, not bad.

566
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: You get more, give me more, give me more. Absolutely, anyways,

567
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 3: let's get through a break. He is the Matt Williamson.

568
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. This is the drive on the

569
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Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Network. Matt. Now, I'll be back with more

570
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: right after this.

571
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Speaker 2: At least, he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

572
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Speaker 2: Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the

573
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Speaker 2: Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

574
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Speaker 3: Welcome back. I am Dale Lollie. He is the Matt

575
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 3: Williamson and Matt Pro Football Focus as their top seventy

576
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: five players set to enter free agency list out there.

577
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 3: And it's interesting because I don't know that it necessarily

578
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 3: matches up to some of the beliefs that Steeler fans have.

579
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 3: I could see that.

580
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Speaker 1: I was looking through it today. I was mostly interested

581
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Speaker 1: in what they projected for contracts, you know, in some

582
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 1: positions that I think will be interesting to the Steelers.

583
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Speaker 1: And there's some Steelers on there that are set to

584
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: make a pretty good buck several facts. I mean, yeah,

585
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: quite a few, and I don't think many of them

586
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: will be We'll be back, to be honest with you.

587
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, So it led me to think this might be

588
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 3: a year where you don't want to spend a ton

589
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 3: of money in free agency unless you're signing guys who

590
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: were cut by somebody.

591
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: Else for com reasons.

592
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 3: You're talking right right angle.

593
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yes, and no, because I do think they will

594
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: when it's all said and done, have a lot to spend,

595
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: and their draft capital is good, not great. You want

596
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: to get better, and I think free agency is more

597
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: of an avenue this year than most in terms of

598
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: your resources. I love the comp game, But to your point,

599
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: if it's DeVante Adams versus Godwin and they want the

600
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: same amount of money and Adams got cut and Godwin didn't,

601
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 1: won't get me it right?

602
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 3: Right? Yeah?

603
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: I would.

604
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: I would definitely take that into consideration because on this

605
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 3: on this list of the top seventy five. Yeah, free agents,

606
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: these are the guys that are probably going to get

607
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: the bigger contracts. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, are justin fields.

608
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Obviously both quarterbacks quarterbacks are on or on

609
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Speaker 3: seventy five. Also on this list is Naujie Harris and

610
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: also I think he's gonna make eleven ish. You know,

611
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 3: James Daniels, Yep, he graded really.

612
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: Well for them. They're big James Daniels fans and Dan Moore.

613
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: M h that's a pretty good power of contracts that

614
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: could be leaving town now. Probably one of those quarterbacks

615
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: isn't in the mix of levers the guys that are

616
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Speaker 1: taken out, and there's also the Landon Roberts of the

617
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 1: world and guys like that, whether you bring them back

618
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: or not, they're going to add up. Mike Williams, you

619
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: guys like that too. The other thing that I'd been

620
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: thinking about too, and it comes back to kind of

621
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Speaker 1: the Metcalf conversation. We started the show with some of

622
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: those Steelers three seventh round picks. You could basically trade

623
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: for a player that someone's going to dump, right because

624
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: you have cap space and they don't.

625
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: You know, like you're just flipping them. I mean, you

626
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: got one year left wonder deal and you're just yeah,

627
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: taking them off their hands.

628
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: Right, Like, where either going to cut this guy because

629
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: we're the Saints and we have no money, or you

630
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: guys can eat the contract and you'll get a much

631
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: better player than a seventh round pick.

632
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Speaker 3: You just gonna have to pay whatever's left on that deal.

633
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean you're basically trading a seventh

634
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: round pick for cap space. Yeah, but you get a

635
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 1: good player, right, And those deals happen all the time

636
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: in the league. I could see the Steelers making a

637
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: move or two like that. Yeah, you're not gonna get

638
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill for a seventh round pack, but you know,

639
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: right or right, but you could get quality players. Yeah.

640
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 3: The interesting thing about again I mentioned this, this is

641
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 3: the top seventy five, and.

642
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: They go pretty quick.

643
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

644
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: They couple of those guys with franchise, couple won't even

645
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: hit free agency to begin with. Same as always.

646
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 3: But you know, again, I think if you can get

647
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 3: some comp picks back, if you don't spend like crazy

648
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 3: and these guys get good contracts out, whatever you're gonna make,

649
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: you're gonna be all right.

650
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: Be nice. To pick up thirds in the future.

651
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, or even a fifth, an extra fifth or whatever

652
00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 3: it may.

653
00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, those things are valuable, right.

654
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 3: I heard people somebody mentioned today Naujee Harris was a

655
00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: wasted draft pick by the Steelers. Gave the ball like

656
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 3: eight thousand times. It four straight thousand yard seasons. You're

657
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 3: gonna go and because they didn't pick up his fifty

658
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 3: year option, you're gonna say that's a bust. That's not

659
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: how this works anymore.

660
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: Right, you think running backs are not We've had that conversation.

661
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 3: This is what I wanted to talk about.

662
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: Okay, So people think he's been on Dale's mind since

663
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: the first segment, and.

664
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 3: I couldn't think of what it was. This was backing

665
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 3: his brain over there and the alarm just went off.

666
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: There we go, ding ding ding.

667
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 3: So when the comp when the I'm sorry, when the

668
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:43,240
Speaker 3: fifty year option was first a thing, yes, and players

669
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 3: were paid. The first ten picks got the big money,

670
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 3: and then after that everybody was slotted in and picks yeah,

671
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 3: he picks eleven through thirty two were kind of slid

672
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 3: the year options were new, Yeah, and they didn't make

673
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: massive amounts of money. Every Body picked up the option

674
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 3: it was very team friendly. It was very team friendly

675
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 3: for teams to pick up the option on that fifty

676
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 3: year if your guy was drafted outside the top ten,

677
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: if your guy was drafted inside the top ten, it

678
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: was not as friendly because they got comparable you know,

679
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 3: they got the basically the transition tag in their position.

680
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: And of course there's a lot of quarterbacks and tackles

681
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,360
Speaker 1: and hard to find positions in the top ten, so.

682
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,919
Speaker 3: You had to really, you know, be a star. Yeah.

683
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah.

684
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 3: With the new CBA, they changed that rule big time

685
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 3: in a big way because if you if you do

686
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 3: things like what you did, if you did things like

687
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 3: make a Pro Bowl, now you're getting that transition tag.

688
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 3: How hard to make a Pro Bowl?

689
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean it's an accomplishment, don't get me wrong. Right,

690
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: a lot of guys get a Pro Bowl, or if.

691
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 3: You've been a starter, you get this. It's you're paying

692
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 3: these guys at a much higher level now than what

693
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 3: you would have paid them before because it just because

694
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 3: of the fact that you drafted them in the first round. Yes,

695
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 3: and so now not as many first round draft picks

696
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,959
Speaker 3: are getting that fifth your option picked up across the league.

697
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,720
Speaker 3: This is across the and it's maybe thirty three percent

698
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 3: of what it's gone. It's gone way down, way down,

699
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: way down in the last few years because of this

700
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 3: new CBA. But I still hear people say, well, so

701
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 3: it's such and such team didn't pick up his fifty

702
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 3: year options, so they must not have liked him. No,

703
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 3: that's not the case.

704
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: It's not the case. And I also think it's a

705
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 1: flawed system of the day you have to make that

706
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: decision because the day you make that decision, you're guaranteeing

707
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: them x amount whatever.

708
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 3: The year years from now, two years from now, so

709
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 3: you're essentially guaranteeing the final two years of their contract.

710
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 1: Right and Nausey in particular, has been remarkablely reliable and durable.

711
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: They're two of his best traits. But he's a running

712
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: back that had a lot of damage. You're going to

713
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 1: guarantee those two years when he you're giving him the

714
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: ball that much.

715
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: He also made the Pro Bowl after his rookie year,

716
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 3: so he's more expensive, so you're not going to pick

717
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: up that fifty year option. He would have to be

718
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 3: one of the best backs in the league to really

719
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 3: make that.

720
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: Have to be Barkley to want to do right, right,

721
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 1: and if he misses time, you still lose, right. I

722
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: mean the guaranteed part of it that early in the

723
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: process is flawed to me. I don't understand why they

724
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: think that's smart.

725
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so maybe this is something that gets changed in

726
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 3: the next CBA when they find out this doesn't work. Yeah,

727
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 3: this is the whole idea, or the system is bad.

728
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 3: It could be as well that the guys who end

729
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 3: up getting drafted in the first round like this because

730
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 3: they get to become free agy players like it.

731
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't want to be the fifth year option

732
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: picked up.

733
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 3: It's not. But realistically, I mean you watch when when

734
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 3: they're the numbers come out for this year's class, and

735
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 3: who gets there a fifty year option picked up and

736
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 3: who doesn't. It's going to be about a third of

737
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: the first round. Yeah, I would say.

738
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: I think it's usually like nine to twelve guys last

739
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: year or two out of thirty two.

740
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 3: Because of the way they change the rules. But people

741
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 3: were still looking at this like it's the old rules

742
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 3: that were much more team friendly.

743
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: That's not the case this case, right, And frankly, like

744
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: who was it that traded up into the first round

745
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,080
Speaker 1: to take a receiver this year, Bills went from like

746
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: twenty nine to thirty. Oh the Panthers to get Legett.

747
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's dumb.

748
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they almost did it. I felt like because

749
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: all those receivers went together as peer solid, Lagett and

750
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: Mconkee and they were all available unless they loved Lagett

751
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,319
Speaker 1: so much more than those other dudes that they had

752
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: to have him. It makes no sense to give something up,

753
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 1: to go up three picks just to get the fifth

754
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: year option. And frankly, the Panthers are one of the

755
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: dumbest teams the league, you know. I mean, I'm sure

756
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 1: the Bills are like, I'll gladly move down three spots.

757
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: I don't care about the fifth year option. It's not

758
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: as valuable as it used to be on draft days.

759
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 3: So here here's so for example, this is the twenty

760
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 3: twenty two first round draft class. Gosh, so these are

761
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 3: the guys who are going to have to have their

762
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 3: options picked up this year.

763
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 1: The decision time comes.

764
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 3: When is the date to get I remember I hate

765
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 3: when the date is.

766
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: It's basically two years.

767
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: It's mad yes, after the draft, yeah, I know, it's

768
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 3: after the draft. So Trayvon Walker was the first overall

769
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 3: pick in the draft, he gets a playtime The way

770
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: this says, you have the basic option, the playtime option,

771
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 3: which is based on how much you've played, if you've

772
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 3: been a starter over I think fifty percent of the time,

773
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 3: you get if the average third to twentieth high highest salaries. Yeah,

774
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:18,320
Speaker 3: so the playtime option is the third to twentieth highest

775
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 3: paid salaries at their position over the last five season,

776
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 3: provided their snap count meets seventy five percent or greater

777
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 3: over two of their first three seasons. An average is

778
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: seventy five percent or greater over all three seasons, or

779
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 3: fifty percent or greater overall three seasons.

780
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: Which I know is a little hard to follow, but

781
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: that means he played a lot.

782
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's probably played over five hield right, right, right,

783
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,879
Speaker 3: sixteen million dollars for Trayvon Walker Aiden Hutchinson because he's

784
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 3: made a one Pro Bowl.

785
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 1: Mitey Walker has not made a Pro Bowl and won't

786
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: by the time it comes around, because that's not too late.

787
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 3: Twenty two point six million dollars for Aiden Hutchinson. That's

788
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 3: a pest. I pick up the fifty year option, yes

789
00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 3: or not. Derek Stingley is made a Pro Bowl ten

790
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 3: point two million dollars.

791
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:02,439
Speaker 1: This is big money.

792
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,399
Speaker 3: I mean, like Sauce Gardner. I mean those guys are yeses, yeah, yeah.

793
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 3: But the difference between that and just the basic uh

794
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 3: for extingly for example.

795
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,720
Speaker 1: And probably the same for Sauce, he made a Pro Bowl.

796
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 3: It's eleven million, eleven point seven million compared to seventeen

797
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 3: point two it's a significant amount of Yeah, Gardner's twenty

798
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 3: point four million. Basically he more than Stingley because he's

799
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 3: made multiple probra so multiple I think that's the thing

800
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 3: that's he gets. He gets the highest level of that.

801
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 3: So if you if you look at, for example, Kenny Pickett,

802
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 3: the Steelers would have been making a decision on Kenny

803
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 3: Pickett this year the basic play level for him, because

804
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: he would he didn't play the snap total in his

805
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 3: rookie year and he didn't get there obviously this past year. Right,

806
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 3: So for Philadelphia to pick up the fifty year option

807
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: would be twenty point seven million dollars. I mean there's

808
00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: no chance they will. Had he stayed with the Steelers

809
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 3: and not made a Pro Bowl, would have been twenty

810
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: three point basically twenty three point eight million.

811
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: So here's a weird question you might not be able

812
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: to figure out. But let's say he was great and

813
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: you loved him and you didn't trade him, and Russell

814
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: Wilson ever existed, the pick worked out, and he's your

815
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. You know what that would have cost? Would

816
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: it had been the same as Sauce? I guess depends

817
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: on well, if he made a Pro Bowl.

818
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: I was going to get to that. You're drimping ahead

819
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 3: too much here. If he would have made a Pro

820
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 3: Bowl one.

821
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: Right, one out, mahomes Alan Lamar.

822
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: Thirty five point twenty six million. If he makes two

823
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 3: Pro Bowls, multiple Pro Bowls, it's forty one point three million.

824
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 3: But if he was awesome, you're happy about it, right,

825
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: If he's awesome, happy about it. But there's there's no

826
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: delineation here like there used to be past those top

827
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,920
Speaker 3: ten picks where you just got slotted in wherever you

828
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,400
Speaker 3: were picked at and you just made one hundred and

829
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: fifty thousand more than the guy who was picked ahead

830
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 3: of your. Right, now it's it becomes much more.

831
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: And some positions are easy to go to Pro bols

832
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: than others. Yeah, right, you know, easier to go as

833
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: a corner than.

834
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 3: A quarterback Tyler Linderbaum, for example, expense the Ravens have

835
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 3: to pick up Tyler Linderbaum's first round tender. Well for

836
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 3: offensive lineman, that's just lineman, right, it's just offensive lineman.

837
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 3: So Tyler Linderbaum to pick up his fifty year option

838
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 3: for the Ravens twenty five point one five million for

839
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 3: a center for a center, right, they're not picking that up.

840
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 3: And he's a successful pick. They're not picking that up.

841
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: They're not picking it up. They'll try to work out

842
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: another I deal with this mansion, right all right, and

843
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 1: they well, but they could not pick it up and

844
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 1: then franchise them.

845
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 3: But that's still a line. It's going to be more

846
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 3: than twenty five million in.

847
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: That because it's tackle money, right, yeah, it's it's the

848
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: system is broken, system screwed up. They made a good pick.

849
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: They also had Kyle Hamilton in the first round that year.

850
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 3: He's a safety. Well, his he made prow His fifty

851
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 3: year option is nineteen point six million dollars. They probably

852
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 3: pick it up, but that's an auci. So to pick

853
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 3: up both of those options would cost them over forty

854
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,280
Speaker 3: million dollars. They're not picking them both up. And doesn't

855
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 3: mean they don't love the player.

856
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: Or that it was a bad pick or ust or whatever.

857
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: They're perfect examples, even more so than nausey. Right, these

858
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: were great picks.

859
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 3: You hit on those picks. They're the only three guys

860
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 3: between That's the thing. Sauce Gardner, Kyle Hamilton, and Tyler

861
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: Linderbaum are the only three guys from that first round

862
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 3: who have made multiple.

863
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: Multiple Pro Bowls. But you can get safeties. I mean,

864
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: like corner is an expensive position. Safeties and centers aren't.

865
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: It's one of the arguments why you don't.

866
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 3: Take Tyler Smith, who has taking one pick ahead of

867
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 3: Linderbaum in that same draft and has been a good players,

868
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 3: made made a Pro Bowl. You could make the argument

869
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: he's been a better player than Yeah. Right, he's twenty

870
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 3: two point seven million because he's only made one Pro Bowl,

871
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: which is easier to pall it.

872
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

873
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 3: Still, it's a lot for guard. They probably will do it.

874
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 3: So folks, when you're talking about the fifty year option

875
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 3: and team's not picking it up, yeah, it's different than

876
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 3: it used to be.

877
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: Massively, massively Okay, that's interesting. I was curious about pick

878
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,480
Speaker 1: it just as a mid round quarterback that hits because

879
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: maybe it was I went next year. Whatever.

880
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 3: You know what, Zach, you're almost better off taking cheaper

881
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 3: positions in the first round so you can pick up

882
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,560
Speaker 3: that fifty year option on them as opposed to taking

883
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 3: a premium.

884
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: Well, then you get the problem that the Baltimore's have

885
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: them with a safety and center, that they're too expensive

886
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: because well, but if.

887
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 3: You have two first round draft picks. Yeah, if you

888
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 3: don't have two first round draft picks.

889
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: But they wouldn't probably pick up linder Bombing.

890
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 3: It's the same argument I had last year with people

891
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 3: when I said, you don't take a center in the

892
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: first round because of this, Because of that, you're not

893
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,479
Speaker 3: going to You're not going to pay a center twenty

894
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 3: five point one million.

895
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: Well, I think we're saying the same thing I thought

896
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: you were saying the office standards. I'm like, no, right,

897
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: taking a center in the first round is bad because yeah,

898
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,440
Speaker 1: wait until Frasier Creed Humphrey.

899
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 3: Taking a guard in the first round is kind of like,

900
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 3: what are you doing.

901
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: The fact that the NFL puts all offensive linemen together

902
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: for franchise tags and stuff and this type of thing

903
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: is so dumb.

904
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the same thing linebackers. Whether you're an edge

905
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 3: rusher or linebackers, you're the same thing. You get you

906
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 3: get the price for a linebacker, whereas they need different

907
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: position designations, Like there is no designation here for defensive end.

908
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 3: It's either defense. There's no there were no defense line

909
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 3: or linebacker. There were no defensive tackles taken in the

910
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 3: first round that year, so they're all, Okay, that's a

911
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 3: weird year there, yeah or no. Deontay Wyatt was the

912
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 3: only one. He was the first guy, and he's thirteen

913
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 3: million as opposed to George Carl Loftis.

914
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: I think Jordan Davis went in the first round at

915
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: the year too.

916
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:42,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, where's he at? Yeah? Okay, so yeah, defensive tackle

917
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: is eleven point four to six for and that's just

918
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 3: the basic because he hasn't made a Pro Bowl as

919
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,800
Speaker 3: opposed to it would be twelve point six or eighteen

920
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 3: point nine to nine five if he had made approb.

921
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: So like when Jalen Carter is up a year from

922
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: now with them, he's gonna be eighteen, but for him

923
00:45:58,920 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: to be more.

924
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 3: Than that, he can might be multiple Pro Bowls by then,

925
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 3: and then you're looking at you know, way more than

926
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 3: what this is. Now, where where'd he go? He would

927
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,959
Speaker 3: be uh twenty like Sauce Land. Yeah, you're talking twenty

928
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 3: three point four million. It's different. It's not not what

929
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 3: it used to be, folks, that it's just not. It's Yeah,

930
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 3: these are big bites. A lot of these guys are

931
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 3: not going to have their fifty year option picked up.

932
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: No, I bet there's tennish. Yeah, some of those guys

933
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,400
Speaker 1: to be getting Will Hutchinson instantly.

934
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 3: It's another reason why not to go too far down

935
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: the rabbit hole thisss. But it's another reason why some

936
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 3: of these guys are getting traded before that fifty year

937
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 3: option becomes an option. Absolutely, just I don't want to

938
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 3: let somebody else deal with that because I want to

939
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: get I want to get something for the guy now.

940
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,320
Speaker 1: Because oh, by the way, you could pick up Sauce

941
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,439
Speaker 1: and then he could blow at his knee. Yeah, because

942
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: again you're guaranteeing two years on the road, which is dumb. Yeah.

943
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Speaker 3: Anyways, let's get to a break where for that he is.

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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson, I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to the

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Speaker 3: drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I'll

946
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 3: be back to finish up the show right after this.

947
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Speaker 3: At least.

948
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Speaker 2: He's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

949
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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

950
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Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

951
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Speaker 3: Welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly, he is the Matt Williamson

952
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Speaker 3: and just some news and notes from around the league here.

953
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 3: Matt Kevin O'Connell gets a multi year extension with the Vikings.

954
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 1: I think he's on a bang up job in the playoffs,

955
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 1: but he's going to start hearing that real soon.

956
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Speaker 3: You know.

957
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Speaker 1: It's crazy league.

958
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Speaker 3: Won a lot of games, but.

959
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Speaker 1: A lot of coaching news, a lot of rumors, you know.

960
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Colts have officially hired lou An Arimo as

961
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Speaker 3: their new DC.

962
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Speaker 1: I like that move for them. I think that's exactly what.

963
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson officially in with the Detroit Lions.

964
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it sounds like the most recent Saints head

965
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Speaker 1: coaches are likely to be the DC and special teams

966
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Speaker 1: coordinator for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so they're going to the veteran route. Looks like

968
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Speaker 3: Josh mcday aniel was going to return to New England

969
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 3: as offensive coordinator with Oh really, yeah, there you go?

970
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean with Ray Boy. I guess that adds up.

971
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Brian Schottenheimer is going to interview with the

972
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Speaker 3: Cowboys for their head coaching position, for their head job.

973
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Speaker 1: Okay, how about that? Yikes. The big one is Glenn

974
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Speaker 1: is in New York with the Jets right now and

975
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 1: Schefter and those guys are like, they're not gonna let

976
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Speaker 1: them leave without a contract, you.

977
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Speaker 3: Know, So maybe we get that news next. The Buccaneers

978
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 3: also feel like Liam Cohen is going to get offered

979
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Speaker 3: the Jaguars job.

980
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: They brought There was three of them that they tried

981
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: for a second interview. He's the only offensive minded one.

982
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: It seems like that's there's going to be the choice

983
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: for the Jags. That's hard on the Bucks though. You

984
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: you lose an offensive coordinatory two years in a row,

985
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: the chances you're going to hire the next one hit

986
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,439
Speaker 1: three in a row is a hire is pretty slim. Yeah.

987
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Speaker 3: That hurts the Bucks bad. That does absolutely. So We'll

988
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 3: continue to see what happens here with some of these

989
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 3: changes that take place in guys moving around in the league.

990
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Speaker 1: But there's probably a couple of things between now and tomorrow.

991
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Speaker 3: That was one of the things that people talked about

992
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 3: with Detroit did well. They were able to keep both

993
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 3: of their coordinators. Well maybe not this year, but.

994
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 1: They'll definitely lost one. And Glenn's a hot ticket because

995
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: I know the Saints are heavily after him too. That's

996
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,839
Speaker 1: why the Jets want to lock the doors on him. Yeah,

997
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: so we'll see if Campbell can overcome that. He's not

998
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: a schemer.

999
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 3: No, he is biting a kneecata right right, raw, raw guy.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think they could be take a step back.

1001
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Speaker 3: And get some former Steelers on that staff. Maybe one

1002
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Speaker 3: of them will get.

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Speaker 1: I wonder I play Randa l or one of those

1004
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: guys gets a bump. Yeah, they had a lot of

1005
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: former players on that team. Absolutely, so see where that goes.

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Speaker 1: But Matt, that's going to do for the show today.

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Speaker 1: Good good stuff absolutely for my partner, Matt Williamson. For

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Speaker 1: for Tyler Viittmeyer out here running making sure our.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there should be a cooler of them right here

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Speaker 3: all the time. Tyler making sure our video gets up

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Speaker 3: there on the YouTube. They should have the Tyler Viitmeyer

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Speaker 3: YouTube section there. And uh, I am Dale Lallie. We

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Speaker 3: thank you for listening to this edition of the Drive

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