Speaker 1: To Teas in a pod which Teddy Mellencamp and camera judge.
Speaker 2: Hi, guys, welcome to another episode of Too Decent a
Speaker 2: Pod with myself, Studdy Man Camp and Tamborrah Judge. Today
Speaker 2: we're going to recap the Valley season two episode, Nat.
Speaker 3: Well, before we recap, can you please let our listeners
Speaker 3: know about your AMRI that you had done yesterday, because
Speaker 3: they're reaching out to me and asking and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'll let her you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I had gotten pretty nervous because I started
Speaker 2: getting headaches again. So I was like, oh no, that
Speaker 2: was the sign of this happening in the first place.
Speaker 2: I hope it means that the tumors aren't getting bigger again.
Speaker 2: But the doctors came in and said that the tumors
Speaker 2: have not grown at all. If anything, there drinking, I'm
Speaker 2: in the one percent range of improvement.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, So, now did you do your lungs as well?
Speaker 2: No? I just did my brain, so we wrote.
Speaker 3: If they're not that concerned with the lungs, right.
Speaker 2: No, they rotate in between the two.
Speaker 3: Okay, I gotcha. So the tumors and it the tumors
Speaker 3: are shrinking.
Speaker 2: They're continuing to shrink, but I am still stage four cancer.
Speaker 3: It takes you out of stage four? Is it just
Speaker 3: because you're cancer metastasized? It's stage four regardless. It's stage
Speaker 3: four until it's gone.
Speaker 2: It's stage four until it's gone. Okay, it's because until
Speaker 2: I'm in remission.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: But at this moment, the plan is that I will
Speaker 2: be on immunotherapy for the next two years and hopefully,
Speaker 2: I mean by the end of that, I'll be in remission.
Speaker 2: If not, maybe there'll be other ways.
Speaker 3: Okay, So let me ask you question. Let's say the
Speaker 3: end of the two years, there are still signs of tumors.
Speaker 3: Do you continue or do they just figure out a
Speaker 3: new treatment plan.
Speaker 2: It depends on how my body's handling it. Like you
Speaker 2: guys can probably tell today I sound a little more down. Yeah,
Speaker 2: So on the days that I sound a little bit
Speaker 2: more down or like, I know, it sounds so bananas,
Speaker 2: but like on these days, I have to put up
Speaker 2: pictures of the people we're talking about. Even though I
Speaker 2: know very well what happened in the stories, sometimes names
Speaker 2: will escape.
Speaker 3: Me, and that is not what it used to be.
Speaker 3: It's not my memory is, but the names with it. Oh,
Speaker 3: putting words together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or putting words together. So that's kind of the situation,
Speaker 2: and that's how I have been responding to the immune therapy.
Speaker 2: Everybody's different, but for me, it kind of brings me down.
Speaker 2: This not on WED this last time is the first
Speaker 2: time that I didn't have like a day where I
Speaker 2: like cried my eyes out. But now I'm on one
Speaker 2: medication in the immune of therapy versus two. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: it's less extreme, and but I mean I'm doing okay.
Speaker 2: I think the hardest part for me is I want
Speaker 2: to be doing everything exactly the way that I used to.
Speaker 3: Well, there's got to be like I tried to think
Speaker 3: about them, to put myself in your situation, which is
Speaker 3: impossible to do. But there's got to be days where
Speaker 3: you know you're busy and you're doing the things, but
Speaker 3: there's got to be days where you know it's just
Speaker 3: like fuck, like this is what I'm dealing with and
Speaker 3: this is what I'm going through, And there's got to
Speaker 3: be like what if immune with therapy doesn't it starts working,
Speaker 3: and what if?
Speaker 2: What if? What if?
Speaker 3: Like that's where my mind was. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: the times and I know that you there's you know,
Speaker 3: you get down and it's okay.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I would say the biggest thing for me is
Speaker 2: like I think I didn't I wasn't educated enough about
Speaker 2: it prior, and I really kind of thought like, oh, well,
Speaker 2: this means that I'm done, and it doesn't. It means
Speaker 2: that I'm getting better, which is really good because there's
Speaker 2: a lot of people that aren't getting better. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But I would say, like right after your surgery, in
Speaker 3: the weeks after that, you weren't full of yourself, so
Speaker 3: like your memory wasn't good, and like, especially like about
Speaker 3: your lungs. I remember talking to I think it was Kelly,
Speaker 3: your family Sinners, And this is after you were already
Speaker 3: home and the doctor said to you, well, the tumors
Speaker 3: in your lungs, which you had been told about many times,
Speaker 3: and you said, I have tumors in my lungs and
Speaker 3: Kelly said it was really heartbreaking. And then you just
Speaker 3: processed it, processed it and just went okay, let's go.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's kind of how yesterday went. Yesterday I
Speaker 2: had in the morning, I had my check and it
Speaker 2: said that the you know, the tumors are still there,
Speaker 2: which means I'm still stage four cancer, but they're you know,
Speaker 2: I'm in the you know, first percentile of how well
Speaker 2: I'm healing, So that was exciting. Then I went to
Speaker 2: the eye doctor and where they dilate your eyes and
Speaker 2: they do all these millions of tests because a big
Speaker 2: part of what was making me have headaches before was
Speaker 2: the swelling in my brain, and they said that I
Speaker 2: have no swelling in my brain right now. None of
Speaker 2: the big things that they were worried about in regards
Speaker 2: to this eye doctor appointment were coming. We're happening. So
Speaker 2: if I am having headaches, it's probably due to dehydration
Speaker 2: or stress.
Speaker 3: Could it just be because you have brain stemmers too,
Speaker 3: I mean, are they not big enough to give you
Speaker 3: that headache?
Speaker 2: Or no? I mean, I don't think they're coming from that.
Speaker 2: I think that sometimes you know, when shit's kind of
Speaker 2: going wrong and you know what it could be, then
Speaker 2: your brain starts to like think about it and obsess
Speaker 2: about it. And that's kind of what ended up happening
Speaker 2: with me. I think throughout these past couple of headaches,
Speaker 2: but today my headache isn't super bad. I'm just tired,
Speaker 2: Like I'm really not sleeping great, but I can't tell
Speaker 2: you enough, like how much I'm happier being able to
Speaker 2: do this again? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And after yesterday because I text you but you never respond.
Speaker 3: Was there was there a level of like just happiness
Speaker 3: and relief and because you were scared going into that
Speaker 3: scan because your headaches came back after that, were you
Speaker 3: just like yes, yes, like a like a high.
Speaker 2: Do you want me to lie?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: I want you to tell the truth?
Speaker 2: No, that wasn't What do you think there was a
Speaker 2: sadness because I think I believe that I'm going to
Speaker 2: go in and they're going to say, Wow, it's a
Speaker 2: miracle and you no longer have any cancer and you're
Speaker 2: in remission, And like, I go and look at the
Speaker 2: little because there's the radiation bell, but there's also the
Speaker 2: immune therapy and the cancer free bell, and I look
Speaker 2: at it and I get really down, like will I
Speaker 2: ever be able to? Will?
Speaker 3: But you have to you have to be patient, Teddy,
Speaker 3: and you have to realize you're not dealing with stage one,
Speaker 3: you're dealing with stage four and you're getting better. That
Speaker 3: is like a miracle in itself.
Speaker 2: But it's such a bummer, like little things that we're
Speaker 2: so effortless for me to do, like go to the
Speaker 2: grocery store. I just so overlooked. Like I used to
Speaker 2: always bitch about driving, but like really now that I
Speaker 2: can't drive at all, like getting to the grocery store, Yeah,
Speaker 2: well you can't have, you know, like we're we're fostering
Speaker 2: a puppy and it's the best puppy in the world.
Speaker 2: And I'm so cute. Sware girls, he's with Slate right now.
Speaker 2: Mag just asked where he is he but Slay took
Speaker 2: him to the barn today. But he is amazing and
Speaker 2: I know his name is Maverick.
Speaker 3: Oh he's beautiful.
Speaker 2: He's so beautiful. I love him so much.
Speaker 3: And for anybody that's gonna come for me for fostering
Speaker 3: a dog, Guys, fostering with fostering a dog is a
Speaker 3: people come for you.
Speaker 2: For that always people came. Okay, so people have been
Speaker 2: coming for me about fostering a dog, and they've been
Speaker 2: coming for me for dating. Like the only thing she
Speaker 2: should be worried about right now are her kids and
Speaker 2: staying alive.
Speaker 3: Like okay, why I can tell you right now all
Speaker 3: of you can fuck off, because there's not a day
Speaker 3: that she's not worried that you're not worried about your
Speaker 3: health or getting better and doing everything that you can
Speaker 3: do and spending time constantly with your children, Like shut
Speaker 3: the fuck up. Yeah, honestly, if you want to date,
Speaker 3: like life doesn't stop because you have cancer?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And if I want to put myself in a
Speaker 2: situation where I'm staying busy so I'm not getting depressed,
Speaker 2: well I have. Yes, I have a problem with that,
Speaker 2: and like, clearly I'm not going on dates while my
Speaker 2: kids are like sitting here looking up waiting to hang
Speaker 2: out with them. Ed, what has them?
Speaker 3: You guys have fifty to fifty custody?
Speaker 2: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So when he hasn't, what are you supposed to do?
Speaker 3: Sit in bed and cry.
Speaker 2: About your health?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I mean, or just if you're not in this situation,
Speaker 3: like shut up.
Speaker 2: Peez, because it does. I would like to say that
Speaker 2: it doesn't bother me, but it does, of course it does.
Speaker 2: Like when people wrote like, don't doesn't she know she
Speaker 2: has terminal cancer? Why the fuck would she even be
Speaker 2: dating anyone? And even my doctor said, he goes I
Speaker 2: now that I follow you on Instagram, I see some
Speaker 2: of the stuff people write, and he's like, I really
Speaker 2: don't want you to think about your cancer as terminal.
Speaker 2: Just because that happened to somebody's friends, aunts, brothers, cousin's
Speaker 2: friend doesn't mean that that's what's happening to you. And
Speaker 2: you don't need to think like that, and you should
Speaker 2: be going and having fun and trying to laugh and
Speaker 2: do your thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, obviously we post things for business and things
Speaker 3: like that, but do you think just for mental health reasons,
Speaker 3: maybe not read comments.
Speaker 2: Or just bare.
Speaker 3: Read articles or anything like that.
Speaker 2: I rarely read comments these days because reading isn't my
Speaker 2: favorite thing, as you know with the texting. But it
Speaker 2: was just kind of overwhelming one day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was just like my phone was just
Speaker 3: and I just and I looked, and I was like, shit,
Speaker 3: why'd I look? I couldn't imagine going after somebody that is,
Speaker 3: you know, going through treatment for stage for cancer or
Speaker 3: stage one or stage zero whatever, and tell them what
Speaker 3: are you doing you shouldn't be doing, like shut the
Speaker 3: fuck up?
Speaker 2: Yeah, just and then I want to fight back, and
Speaker 2: then I'm like stop say nothing, stop reading, stop looking.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's that's my update. I'm doing better. I'm
Speaker 2: at least feeling better in the way that I'm probably
Speaker 2: working out four or five times a week. Fostering this
Speaker 2: puppy has been really nice. It's given the kids a
Speaker 2: lot of happiness. It also like, I don't if people
Speaker 2: come for me, they fucking come for me. But in
Speaker 2: my opinion, is being able to take care of a
Speaker 2: dog in our beautiful home like work.
Speaker 3: And going on dates and being with your kids and
Speaker 3: crying when you want to cry, and going through treatment
Speaker 3: and feeling like shit.
Speaker 2: You're also learning how to co parent. Like you see
Speaker 2: me and Edwin and Bella and Slate and Cruse, like
Speaker 2: we're all at Slat's graduation, we go to dinner, Like
Speaker 2: I'm doing everything that I can to try to be
Speaker 2: good to all of the people in my life. Am
Speaker 2: I always the best? No? I make mistakes, but like,
Speaker 2: let me fucking try. Well, let they.
Speaker 3: Need to let you live, yeah, the way you want
Speaker 3: to live.
Speaker 2: Okay, But that that's pretty much the update. Well, I
Speaker 2: I'm very.
Speaker 3: Very happy when I heard the news, and I know
Speaker 3: that this is you know, it's not a sprint, Teddy.
Speaker 3: You know it to marathon, and you know it's going
Speaker 3: to take some time, but it's going in the positive direction.
Speaker 3: It is, and I know that you as much as
Speaker 3: it's hard to see it that way, and you want
Speaker 3: things like that, which I would too, And there's probably
Speaker 3: just days where you wake up you're like, I'm walking
Speaker 3: over this, like I'm sick of this.
Speaker 2: I don't want to feel sick. I don't want to
Speaker 2: take it.
Speaker 3: I don't I want to go and have some champagne
Speaker 3: and a party with my friends.
Speaker 2: Or here's the thing. I'm even allowed to drink, but
Speaker 2: I can't. I can have like half of a drink
Speaker 2: and then I'm like, nah, yeah, I asked my doctor
Speaker 2: about that. I said, when it comes to food and
Speaker 2: drinks and blah blah blah. He goes teddy. If you
Speaker 2: want to go skydiving tomorrow, do it. If you want
Speaker 2: to go out with your friends and have drinks, do it.
Speaker 2: If you want to go swim in the pool with
Speaker 2: your kids, do it. Nothing except what the treatment that
Speaker 2: you're in is really going to change things, except for
Speaker 2: the fact that you are taking care of yourself. He's like,
Speaker 2: you're up every day, you move your body. He's like,
Speaker 2: ninety percent of the time you're eating the best foods
Speaker 2: for your body. If you're not, He's like most of
Speaker 2: my patients feel kind of grossed out by some foods.
Speaker 2: Do you what you mean to do?
Speaker 3: Do you ever think of any kind of alternative treatments,
Speaker 3: not to treatments that are out there, I mean in
Speaker 3: combination with what you're doing now with me Ino therapy.
Speaker 2: Well, I have somebody. I mean I call him my healer.
Speaker 2: But he comes in and he uses different like he
Speaker 2: grounded me, so like my bed is grounded too, so
Speaker 2: it's like my sheets are grounding. He comes once a week,
Speaker 2: he works on me. He pulls like the negative energy out.
Speaker 2: I know it sounds cuckoo, but like every time after
Speaker 2: my appointment, I feel so much much better. But I'm
Speaker 2: not looking at him to save my life. I'm looking
Speaker 2: at him to save my day to day feeling. And
Speaker 2: that's yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: And I just bought some for myself. Actually, then the job, Yeah,
Speaker 3: people have talked about that, but I was told it's
Speaker 3: not going to do anything to hurt me.
Speaker 2: But it's not going to do anything to help me either, huh.
Speaker 2: So for now that's where I am. I could always change.
Speaker 2: I want to be on the list for the the
Speaker 2: one vaccine that's supposed to get rid of cancer.
Speaker 3: What do you mean on the list. Why can't they
Speaker 3: just give it to.
Speaker 2: Because I have to get through these two years first,
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: So there is a new vaccine for is it, Melanie?
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's called a vaccine, but there
Speaker 2: it's a shot that you get once every couple of months.
Speaker 2: Oh it's really hard, it's so new. But how amazing
Speaker 2: would that be? I just get every couple of months,
Speaker 2: don't have to worry about it. Yeah, that' it would
Speaker 2: be amazing.
Speaker 3: All right, let's get onto the valley. Oh my goodness,
Speaker 3: you give us a start. Oh got Michelle, Janet, Brittany
Speaker 3: and Sheena are getting their hair done. Brittany says Jackson
Speaker 3: is getting out of rehab soon and he's dead. To her,
Speaker 3: I hate to break it to you, Brittany, but you
Speaker 3: have a son together, so I would to see about
Speaker 3: four You're gonna have fourteen more years of dealing with
Speaker 3: Jack's Taylor. Do you think that, Brittany? Do you think
Speaker 3: she likes this toxic relationship? I know some girls kind
Speaker 3: of get drawn into toxic relationships and they can't really
Speaker 3: see their way out of them.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you know, when she's talking about her
Speaker 2: wedding Ring and then the other woman tell her to
Speaker 2: check eBay and Jack's was even selling Jenny craigbags on there.
Speaker 2: I think she is addicted to the drama. Also, if
Speaker 2: I was going to be moving my.
Speaker 3: Husband or soon to be ex husband out of the house,
Speaker 3: I don't think I would have all of my friends
Speaker 3: over to do it with me and shove it in
Speaker 3: bags and drink and have a million I am French,
Speaker 3: what I feel like every episode she's talking about doing
Speaker 3: shots and doing shots and doing shots, and then Jackson
Speaker 3: has made a few comments throughout the years about her drinking.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think couples, most couples don't drink together.
Speaker 2: I think that's probably you know, I've watching the show.
Speaker 2: I've seen other people seem way more intoxicated than I've
Speaker 2: seen Brittany. But I also don't know how she carries
Speaker 2: her Oh.
Speaker 3: Well, that's the thing like sometimes you know, the people
Speaker 3: that you assume doesn't have a drinking problem can hold
Speaker 3: their liquor and then other people they can have two
Speaker 3: drinks and they lose their ship. They're lightweights.
Speaker 2: I mean, she was hard not to drink when she
Speaker 2: was on Band of Roles because she has ulcers. This
Speaker 2: came up. She's still drinking.
Speaker 3: I know things are hard right now. I just I
Speaker 3: just get a little concerned, like motherly concerned when I
Speaker 3: see her want energy shots.
Speaker 2: All the time.
Speaker 3: The amount of junk food that was delivered to that
Speaker 3: house was mind blowing for what four people?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 3: What the hell?
Speaker 2: Well now I'm hungry.
Speaker 3: Thanks a lot, I know, But then Luke, Luke and
Speaker 3: Kristen are hosting a house warning party for their new place.
Speaker 3: Zach shares that he got botox in his scrotum. Do
Speaker 3: you know what the point of scrow talks is?
Speaker 2: So? He said, it makes everything feel better, and it
Speaker 2: may feel better.
Speaker 3: What do you mean feel better? What?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: Feel?
Speaker 3: What is the feeling your balls are getting that botox
Speaker 3: is changing? Well?
Speaker 2: I guess it makes balls look and feel better during sex.
Speaker 3: I don't want to look at anybody's balls during sex.
Speaker 2: But also, doesn't botox numb you? Like?
Speaker 3: I don't think it paraly It paralyzes, so so why
Speaker 3: do you want your balls paralyzed?
Speaker 2: So that's what I don't You can't feel.
Speaker 3: This, I don't know, but so I googled it and
Speaker 3: it says it's purely cosmetic that's it like smoothing out
Speaker 3: wrinkles and potentially making the testicles appear larger. Additionally, it
Speaker 3: can be used to reduce excessive sweating of the balls.
Speaker 3: Some men also seek it for relief from chronic scrotle pain.
Speaker 2: Did Danny end up actually getting it or he just
Speaker 2: watched it?
Speaker 3: No, I was like, I'm doing that. I mean, I
Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing. I thought Zach was funny.
Speaker 2: This episode didn't bother.
Speaker 3: Me, didn't bother me at all. I'm like, oh, I'm
Speaker 3: seeing the side of Zach that I really like this.
Speaker 2: It's coming around. We're fine. Yeah. But then Danny and
Speaker 2: Jason talk about how they're on good terms, and then
Speaker 2: Janet and Danny are not. Jasmine is also on good
Speaker 2: terms with Janet and Jason. Jasmine asked to have a
Speaker 2: conversation later with Jason, Janet, and Melissa at a later date.
Speaker 2: This I thought was lame.
Speaker 3: I didn't care about any of this.
Speaker 2: I'm so over this. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Then Zach's friend Jenna says she also dated Michelle's boyfriend Aaron.
Speaker 2: Ps. I feel like I've seen that girl Jenna before.
Speaker 3: How about God? Jesse trying to put things together, like, oh,
Speaker 3: like there was a time where he cheated on her.
Speaker 3: This Aaron guy cheated with another girl, and maybe this
Speaker 3: is the girl Jenna that he was cheating with. Like
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, dude, just move on. Does
Speaker 3: it really matter at this point?
Speaker 2: And they brought this girl in clearly to have this
Speaker 2: conversation with Jesse and I.
Speaker 3: So what leads me to believe leads me to believe
Speaker 3: that maybe that's what we're going to be hearing next.
Speaker 2: But I gotta say, I think that Jesse didn't bug
Speaker 2: me this episode either. He handled it pretty nicely, he did.
Speaker 2: He handled it fine enough. But then Jenna tells Jesse
Speaker 2: she dated Aaron twice in five years and a year
Speaker 2: and a half ago. Jesse thinks Aaron might be seeing
Speaker 2: Michelle and Jennet at the same time.
Speaker 3: This was like a year and a half ago, right,
Speaker 3: this is not currently, This.
Speaker 2: Is not current. But what is what is in that
Speaker 2: honey that has these women so into him?
Speaker 3: Maybe it's a hat he wore on the beach, Maybe
Speaker 3: that's a real name. But I'm happy to see that
Speaker 3: Luke is planning to propose to Kristen. I mean, obviously
Speaker 3: we know she's pregnant and did you see her pictures
Speaker 3: pregnancy pictures on People magazine? I didn't so beautiful in
Speaker 3: the nursery. Isn't the baby do soon? I feel like
Speaker 3: she's been pregnant for like two years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think she's like ready. But he's planning to
Speaker 2: propose in Hawaii. He's trying to get advice. I have
Speaker 2: a question for you when you're I know you don't
Speaker 2: like to have suck questions, but I can't get over
Speaker 2: it because this is a conversation I had with somebody
Speaker 2: I know. Okay, when you're having sex with Eddie, do
Speaker 2: you say his name?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Me, neither.
Speaker 3: No names are not say Eddie's name either.
Speaker 2: No, So this is well I didn't say Edwin, and
Speaker 2: I don't say any new names.
Speaker 3: So no, uh no, So my friend, unless his name
Speaker 3: is God, I'm gonna have to say her name, my
Speaker 3: friend Katie.
Speaker 2: When she does, she says like, oh, Trevor, come on, Trevor.
Speaker 3: Get it Eddie, giddy, giddy, giddy. What now? She thinks
Speaker 3: I am nuts that I don't say it. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I have never I'm trying to think of I say,
Speaker 3: but I don't even normally say like Eddie, I just go, hey, babe, babe,
Speaker 3: well in general, in general, just in general.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't use the name, but I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: I call.
Speaker 3: Him Big Papa, kidding clean, I'm joking, I'm joking.
Speaker 2: But then Brittany tells everyone that Jack's uncovered the cameras
Speaker 2: in their house, and when he came to pick up
Speaker 2: the mail, Brittany got a call from Jack's sister saying
Speaker 2: he was going to urgent care for blood high blood pressure,
Speaker 2: and reality, Jack's forced the receptionist at rehab to say
Speaker 2: he was having a medical emergency.
Speaker 3: What a fucking narcissist.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: His therapist later clarified that Jax had made up the situation.
Speaker 3: Jackson also wrote an email claiming that.
Speaker 2: Their house is in foreclosure and that they need to
Speaker 2: split their podcast fifty fifty.
Speaker 3: Okay, there's a lot to talk about here. First of all,
Speaker 3: do you remember when he lied about Brittany having a
Speaker 3: stroke on House of Villains?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I think Jack's may I mean allegedly be certifiable.
Speaker 2: And that's saying a lot compared to the men we've
Speaker 2: had to recap.
Speaker 3: Well, I heard, I read on social media that he
Speaker 3: was doing some tour I don't know pop music, a
Speaker 3: podcast or.
Speaker 2: No, but it got shut down.
Speaker 3: It got shut down for allegedly allegedly, So that's what we.
Speaker 2: Like the pope.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I mean he is just he's he's
Speaker 3: I don't even want to say it because it's so mean.
Speaker 3: But no, no.
Speaker 2: What about no but no, no, no, but what about
Speaker 2: when we have Michelle Vis at Lala's house and we
Speaker 2: try to act like these two would ever hang out
Speaker 2: in real life?
Speaker 3: I know, I know won't get to that, but I
Speaker 3: have one thing to say. How about him the house
Speaker 3: being in foreclosure and saying that the podcast money can
Speaker 3: go towards how whatever. They're not even doing a podcast
Speaker 3: right now, So what the hell is he talking about?
Speaker 2: That's the live show. He's talking about the live show
Speaker 2: versus the podcast.
Speaker 3: Okay, So and then we learn, at least I learn,
Speaker 3: I don't know if you knew this, that he had
Speaker 3: such I R S debt that he borrows against the
Speaker 3: house and that's why the house that the monthly is
Speaker 3: so expensive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's nuts.
Speaker 3: I had no idea, and she's willing to take on
Speaker 3: that huge And then they also took money out of
Speaker 3: her bank account.
Speaker 2: Well, so where's her apartment that she lived in at
Speaker 2: the beginning? Did that go away because Jacks went into
Speaker 2: rehab and she had similar to stay for thirty days?
Speaker 3: Well, she said that she still had two months left
Speaker 3: on that lease and she was just going to go
Speaker 3: ahead and move into the house. I'll tell you, I
Speaker 3: don't know I would put that house on the market
Speaker 3: so quick.
Speaker 2: Done. But they're not on the market make any money.
Speaker 2: They're in debt.
Speaker 3: It's better than it going into foreclosure.
Speaker 2: True, he's probably not even going to let her have
Speaker 2: any of them. There's some reason I would assume. But
Speaker 2: then Michelle visits Lalla's house. Michelle says, ill, but this
Speaker 2: was awkward the entire talking everything about it. Michelle says
Speaker 2: Isabella is similar to Jesse and doesn't want to raise
Speaker 2: an entitled child. Lalla asks about Michelle's mom.
Speaker 3: I feel like Lala tries to avoid that conversation because
Speaker 3: she realized it made no sense. Well she I felt
Speaker 3: like Lala did get a little bit involved in that
Speaker 3: conversation because she started comparing her ex.
Speaker 2: But she did it lightly. It was light.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, Michelle saying that Isabella is similar
Speaker 3: to Jesse. DNA is strong and I've learned that and
Speaker 3: that's how it works.
Speaker 2: And yeah, but then La La asks about Michelle's mom,
Speaker 2: This part I didn't realize. Michelle shares that her mom
Speaker 2: got sick a year ago, a stage four colon cancer.
Speaker 2: Her mom's first round of chemo didn't work, and Michelle
Speaker 2: is worried she doesn't have much time left with her.
Speaker 2: The fact that this is all new news and Jesse
Speaker 2: has behaved the way he's behaved.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what Sina told me. She when I saw
Speaker 3: Sheena in New York. She's like, what you don't know
Speaker 3: is you know that she's dealing with her mom's cancer
Speaker 3: and all that. Teddy, do you feel like we're dealing
Speaker 3: with a lot of cancer and a lot of different
Speaker 3: shows right now and a lot of people I know too, Yeah,
Speaker 3: what is going on?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Fuck cancer, I know, God, fuck cancer.
Speaker 2: We want to be done with it. But then Jazz,
Speaker 2: then that ends. Then Jasmine, Melissa, Janet, Jason go to
Speaker 2: lunch to talk out their issues. Jason and Janet are
Speaker 2: confused why Jasmine told Kristen that Jason takes his ring
Speaker 2: off every time.
Speaker 3: I'm over so over it. Who do you think is
Speaker 3: the worst Jay, Jasmine, Janet or Jason.
Speaker 2: Jasmine? Yeah, who do you think it is?
Speaker 3: I think so too.
Speaker 2: I mean, Janet can be but like Jasmine, I feel
Speaker 2: like is lying here.
Speaker 3: I think she's Yeah, I don't think she's being completely
Speaker 3: honest here, And I think I just don't think that
Speaker 3: Kristin would just make that up.
Speaker 2: And I think she scripts the things that she wants
Speaker 2: to say and then says them in a dramatic way.
Speaker 3: And well, she's been on multiple reality shows, so she's
Speaker 3: a reality She's a reality. Yeah, she's working the reality circuit.
Speaker 3: So I feel like she's kind of trying a little
Speaker 3: bit too hard and I would like to see her
Speaker 3: just to calm down just a little bit.
Speaker 2: But then Jason says Jasmine's deep seated resentment towards Janet.
Speaker 2: As concerning Janet and Jasmine apologize to each other, I
Speaker 2: thought that Janet was acting like a little bit of
Speaker 2: a puss during all of this. You think, so, yeah,
Speaker 2: like stand up for yourself a little. Why are you
Speaker 2: having your husband do everything? Like say, I know, but
Speaker 2: like in this moment, I mean, in a confessional, Janet
Speaker 2: seems says, it seems like Jasmine has been acting out
Speaker 2: as a mouth for the Mastermind, referring to kristin you know,
Speaker 2: I'm so over this over It's almost like Janet and
Speaker 2: jazz One conspired off camera to try to make it
Speaker 2: look like Kristen is the villain.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so too. Do we have to like
Speaker 3: talk about this anymore moving forward? You know how much
Speaker 3: more can be said.
Speaker 2: I'm sure we can find shit to say.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I don't want to hear it anymore. I'd
Speaker 3: rather go to Brittany host the Girls and Zach to
Speaker 3: pack up Jack's stuff at this point.
Speaker 2: Well good, because that's the part we're getting into. Brittany
Speaker 2: hosts the Girls and Zach to pack up Jack's stuff.
Speaker 3: It's happening, and.
Speaker 2: So he doesn't have an excuse to come over anymore.
Speaker 2: In the confessional, Michelle said she wishes she were getting
Speaker 2: the same support as Brittany.
Speaker 3: Okay, Michelle's situation with Jesse is nowhere near as bad
Speaker 3: as Brittany and Jack's that I could see as a viewer.
Speaker 2: We don't think.
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened.
Speaker 2: Been watching Jack's and Brittany' dysfunction relationship for like ten years. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we don't. We just found out about Michelle's mom being sick.
Speaker 2: We don't know anything else about them. We barely know
Speaker 2: anything about Honey Guy, like, we need more information for
Speaker 2: us to get invested and for a maca cheese party. Absolutely,
Speaker 2: even though she doesn't want any of these unhealthy foods,
Speaker 2: we'd have to do things for her.
Speaker 3: I love that when she said that, when she's like,
Speaker 3: Brittany's idea of food is just not mine.
Speaker 2: But I already wanted ducked it up and had some
Speaker 2: bites and gone with the flow. I want McDonald's. I
Speaker 2: would have. I would. I would have been dead sprint
Speaker 2: on the way to the bean and cheese burritos from
Speaker 2: Taco Bell. Oh they had that.
Speaker 3: I didn't see those. I saw like McDonald's. The amount
Speaker 3: of French fries that were in that.
Speaker 2: I don't like those fries, but I do like fasted.
Speaker 3: I think McDonald's french fries are good, but I haven't
Speaker 3: had him and probably Oh my god, I mean it's
Speaker 3: been decades since my kids were little.
Speaker 2: I like things I can dip. You can dip anything, dip, dip, dip.
Speaker 2: What do you dip it in?
Speaker 3: Ranch?
Speaker 2: But the ranch and ketchup both combo so that that's
Speaker 2: a nice pink color. The only thing better than throwing
Speaker 2: Jack stuff and trash bags would have been throwing them
Speaker 2: and trash bags mixed.
Speaker 3: With clocks, right, which who knows if they did that
Speaker 3: or not. I would have just thrown them on the
Speaker 3: front porch.
Speaker 2: I get them.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, she's got a key to the place,
Speaker 3: and he comes by whenever he wants. I would be
Speaker 3: ripping down those cameras inside if I were her, I
Speaker 3: would hire somebody take the cameras down. And I think
Speaker 3: it's weird the amount of cameras he has on the
Speaker 3: inside of the house.
Speaker 2: It's so fucked weird.
Speaker 3: It's creepy as fuck. And obviously, I mean she talks
Speaker 3: to a lawyer and Jack, and she tells a lawyer like,
Speaker 3: he texts me, he's watching me.
Speaker 2: He's watching me like a hawk.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the at first I thought it was a
Speaker 3: therapist she was talking to. And the lawyer's like, this
Speaker 3: isn't okay, Like, no, he's obsessed with you.
Speaker 2: And then she tells about the finances. She says, the
Speaker 2: one point two million behind on taxes when they got married,
Speaker 2: and he borrowed their mortgage against it. To dig himself out.
Speaker 2: So their mortgage is now seventeen thousand dollars dollars a month.
Speaker 2: That's more than my mortgage.
Speaker 3: Why would you marry somebody knowing that they don't pay
Speaker 3: their taxes and they're that far.
Speaker 2: Behind because they have manipulated you into thinking that they
Speaker 2: are all you can get and they are the end
Speaker 2: all be all, And that's what narcissists do. And under
Speaker 2: my assumption, allegedly, I would assume Jackson is a narcissist.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, the lawyers, the lawyers like Britney, you need
Speaker 3: to file for divorce first. So Britney signs paperwork, initiates
Speaker 3: the divorce, and she is off. Now I have a
Speaker 3: feeling we're gonna, don't we see Jack's getting served?
Speaker 2: I think we do. But Frank Zach hosts a Britz
Speaker 2: bar at Jackson's covering up the signers that says Jax's
Speaker 2: about that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I I don't know. I didn't like it.
Speaker 2: A bit too much.
Speaker 3: It was a little tit for Tad. It was a
Speaker 3: little immature. It was a little like, why do you
Speaker 3: want to go to his bar and do all that?
Speaker 2: Go somewhere else, Just go somewhere else, like don't.
Speaker 3: Very very very petty.
Speaker 2: It's solely so he will. I think they can film there,
Speaker 2: But I also.
Speaker 3: You know what, you're right, You're right.
Speaker 2: That's why. I also think it's because they want to
Speaker 2: She wants to show him like I can do whatever
Speaker 2: I want. But I would have been fine with just
Speaker 2: the pictures covering the pictures the inside of the place
Speaker 2: and like the inside Brits. I didn't need to see
Speaker 2: the plastic Brits covering like that. Actually no, but.
Speaker 3: Why couldn't we just keep Jack's face everywhere and just
Speaker 3: be a goodbye to Jack's farewell fuck off. But I
Speaker 3: feel like this is, you know, like Jesse said, it's antagonizing.
Speaker 2: Jack's like, as he's getting out here, and he's.
Speaker 3: A loose cannon. If you know that you are divorcing
Speaker 3: somebody that has a temper, that's in rehab, that is,
Speaker 3: you know, allegedly a narcissist, why would you want to
Speaker 3: antagonize somebody like that so he can blow up?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well then so then you can get that rush
Speaker 2: and you can go through all of it again, and
Speaker 2: that's how it works. Unfortunately, No, no, no, I don't.
Speaker 2: But then we get dark side Danny. Oh. Jesse thinks
Speaker 2: Danny is hiding, is drinking for Nia, but Danny says
Speaker 2: dark side will come out tonight.
Speaker 3: Now, did you feel like he was dark or you know,
Speaker 3: when you're drunk, you say a little bit more than
Speaker 3: you normally would say. You got, you know, some liquid
Speaker 3: curage was did you find him wasted?
Speaker 2: I'm trying to put this in the nicest way possible. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I have seen Danny be dark side Danny.
Speaker 3: Oh, I didn't know that you knew him that?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 3: Yeah, and can you explain to us what dark side
Speaker 3: Danny is?
Speaker 2: To me? It's just obnoxious? Okay. You know, it's like
Speaker 2: the person that asked the same question like forty four times,
Speaker 2: there's like can I get this sort of just.
Speaker 3: Like stumbling around like just that person you don't necessarily
Speaker 3: like it's not a fun.
Speaker 2: Drunk to be around. Okay, Well, am I saying you
Speaker 2: as a problem? No, I don't know. I think there's
Speaker 2: one time like this. Yeah.
Speaker 3: See, they obviously they know more than we do. But
Speaker 3: there's a difference between an annoying somebody that's annoying when
Speaker 3: they're drunk and somebody that is like has a drinking problem.
Speaker 2: Well, I think he's also a certain way around women.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they've said he's a little handsy, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's a little handsy, I think. But
Speaker 2: I think, you know, as much as I love Danny
Speaker 2: and moments that I've hung out with him, I think
Speaker 2: he's also can be very obnoxious and kind of over
Speaker 2: the top.
Speaker 3: How is he when he doesn't drink in real life?
Speaker 3: Or have you only seen him when he's drinking?
Speaker 2: He's very boisterous.
Speaker 3: Hi, how are you.
Speaker 2: It's good to see you.
Speaker 3: I can see that he's almost like cartoon characters.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then Nia is I mean, we had to
Speaker 2: remember Nia was like a pageant queen. She had a
Speaker 2: really hard upbringing. Yeah, she wants to give the illusion
Speaker 2: that everything's perfect, but nothing's perfect for any family ever. Well,
Speaker 2: so I think she's trying to control the situation. But
Speaker 2: I think anybody that nice, there's always repercussions.
Speaker 3: Well, now that we're talking match about them, I would
Speaker 3: like to congratulate them both because Nia had her baby yesterday.
Speaker 2: Congratulations.
Speaker 3: So this is the fourth child she's there, four under
Speaker 3: the age of four. Good luck to you.
Speaker 2: I do think that these two love each other and
Speaker 2: have each other's back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I do get concerned because of his personality
Speaker 3: and her having the upbringing she has, And you know,
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're a perfect match, but I.
Speaker 2: Have a question, how can we? I mean, it's it's
Speaker 2: kind of wild to me that it can start out
Speaker 2: with Jason and Janet making this all about Jack's and changing,
Speaker 2: you know, all the things that they're going to change
Speaker 2: to make Jack's crazy, to then villainizing Danny for taking
Speaker 2: it to tequila shot.
Speaker 3: I don't think he needs to be villainized for taking
Speaker 3: a tequila shot. I did not see him. I mean,
Speaker 3: he was obviously a little drunk, but speaking his mind.
Speaker 3: But to be like, oh, that's dark side, because dark
Speaker 3: when you're dark, like that's that's bad. I didn't acknowledge that,
Speaker 3: did he What did he say? Did I miss something
Speaker 3: that he said? They were trying to pretend that Janette
Speaker 3: and Jason and Kristen Jasmine Jasmine were like bsing their
Speaker 3: fight and why is this such a big fight when
Speaker 3: Dad but he just was kept going hard, but he
Speaker 3: wasn't really making sense. It doesn't make any sense. But
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I guess that's just a
Speaker 3: label they have on him dark side. I know that
Speaker 3: his wife was not happy with him, and she's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: you need to stop, and he wouldn't stop, and so
Speaker 3: she got up and went to the bar.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then, don't you worry. It's ten forty seven
Speaker 2: and she knows she's like the uber comes at eleven.
Speaker 2: Let's don't know how she knows how to keep him
Speaker 2: on lock when she's there. I just worried. But that's
Speaker 2: also problematic.
Speaker 3: I think sometimes when you go through bad situations you're
Speaker 3: light in your life, you kind of find people that
Speaker 3: are similar, and I, you know, I don't know. I
Speaker 3: don't want to be mean about it, but especially since
Speaker 3: I just had a baby, I just I don't know
Speaker 3: if I feel like this is the best match for her.
Speaker 2: Well, I just hope she doesn't end up doing something stupid.
Speaker 3: I know, four kids now, four kids, scared, kids scared.
Speaker 3: Maybe it might turn This is just from watching the show. Guys,
Speaker 3: so don't get upset with us. But I just I
Speaker 3: hope that they stick it out and they make it work.
Speaker 2: But I can't say this episode. I did like the
Speaker 2: following people Zach.
Speaker 1: I liked that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I liked it wasn't funny in this episode, Zach was.
Speaker 2: Funny, Jasmine was not. I liked wasn't I liked Jesse.
Speaker 2: But know who we haven't seen now that I've just
Speaker 2: gone down our list of people's names, we haven't seen
Speaker 2: much of Benji.
Speaker 3: Who's Benji?
Speaker 2: Oh, Benji's not in town?
Speaker 3: Oh Benji the boyfriend?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Benji the boyfriend.
Speaker 3: Benji's he's out of the state, right.
Speaker 2: Isn't he? I know? But he's got his little picture
Speaker 2: here and I would like to know where he is
Speaker 2: and when he's coming back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need to see Do we need to see Benji?
Speaker 2: Maybe we need to know if we really like Zach
Speaker 2: or we've just been fooled again because everybody else is.
Speaker 3: I really enjoyed Zach and I've been very.
Speaker 2: Very much Enjoysler. Who's that honey baby?
Speaker 3: Oh? I I've seen him sit on a beach with
Speaker 3: that weird hat on saying nothing, and then we saw
Speaker 3: him at a party. You know, we don't see much
Speaker 3: of him. I got to give him props for not
Speaker 3: gets well. It's better than a bitch face.
Speaker 2: I mean, are you saying I have a bitch face?
Speaker 3: Sometimes? Resting fuck you chan, you know you ever resting
Speaker 3: beach face.
Speaker 2: Resting beach face one that's ready for a chan.
Speaker 3: But you guys know you're staying out of the sun.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I can't even do that. But thanks guys for
Speaker 2: tuning in for another episode of to Cheese and a Pod.
Speaker 2: We will be back tomorrow talking more things. Bye.