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Speaker 1: It is Monday, November two. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now

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Speaker 1: a guy who goes through life shaken not stirred, Jay

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Speaker 1: Peace Shadra Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday.

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Speaker 1: Headed into week number nine, Number nine, Number nine. The

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Speaker 1: Jags get the Texans this week at t I A.

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Speaker 1: Bank Field planned to get to on the show. Prisco

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Speaker 1: and Boselli coming up. Minshew injured and out this week.

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Speaker 1: Jake Luton will get the starter reps in practice and

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Speaker 1: play against the Texans. Dug Moron today said Mike Lennon

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Speaker 1: should be ready as well defense facing Deshaun Watson this

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Speaker 1: week and the Texans, and we'll get to your social questions.

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Speaker 1: We'll go around the FC South, the National Football League

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Speaker 1: and the not so powerful rankings that we promised last week.

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Speaker 1: We will get to those as well. Let's hear from

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Speaker 1: head coach Doug Morone today he spoke with the media

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Speaker 1: for the first time since the bye week. Gardner Minshew

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Speaker 1: is out, Jake Lewton will get the reps. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: start with these practices each day and preparation and you

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Speaker 1: know all that and I think I think we'll all

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Speaker 1: we'll all know, we'll know it when we see it.

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything that's um um I opening,

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Speaker 1: you know, just going there and see if he can operate,

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Speaker 1: and see how he plays against the live rush. I

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Speaker 1: know how he plays, you know, with a without a

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Speaker 1: live rush. You know, he's done some good things, and

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Speaker 1: I'm sure it will be some things that he wants

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Speaker 1: to take back. And you just hope the good plays

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Speaker 1: are good and the bad plays don't kill you. I

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Speaker 1: think that the truth. Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli joining us

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Speaker 1: now on Jaguar's Happy Hour. How about that? Out everything?

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. Oh my god, By the way, we got

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Speaker 1: a quarterback change. If he plays well, he plays well,

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Speaker 1: you gotta right. Oh my god, what was that? That's sorry?

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Speaker 1: I didn't mean to laugh, but I couldn't read. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean Jake Lutenine baby, and Doug did I mean

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Speaker 1: one thing he said? It wasn't with a lot of enthusiasm.

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Speaker 1: He's right, and we have no idea what this kid

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Speaker 1: can do. I mean, think about what we saw last night.

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Speaker 1: And Bend Nucci, who is the seventh round pick, third

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Speaker 1: string quarterback had no reps, barely any reps in camp,

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Speaker 1: probably no O T A s at all, no preseason snaps,

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Speaker 1: getting limited reps all of uh in practice in preparation

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Speaker 1: for the early season games. At least he got some

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Speaker 1: more reps because he was the backup one week behind

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton. I mean, Jake Luton has had no reps.

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Speaker 1: I mean, tell me last time, Pete. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: know the NFL works. He worked with the first team

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Speaker 1: offense um before this week. Never never like he's never

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Speaker 1: had a rent, not preparing for the game plan. I

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Speaker 1: mean he's in the meetings, but he's running scout team.

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Speaker 1: He's the third quarterback. He is not getting any real

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Speaker 1: reps until this week. And by the way, they're off

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Speaker 1: today or maybe they came in today, they're off tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: They have like two days the full like on the

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Speaker 1: field prep. They have to be off tomorrow. It's my point.

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Speaker 1: And they were all they were out all last week.

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Speaker 1: They didn't work at all during I'm pretty sure. I'm

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Speaker 1: pretty sure the new CBA you're not like the whole

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Speaker 1: weeks off. I don't think they were on the field.

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Speaker 1: I think there were meetings earlier in the week, yes, meetings,

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Speaker 1: but come on, I mean, we're asking this kid, you

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Speaker 1: can't expect anything from him. Whatever you get is great point,

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Speaker 1: that's my point. But it's better than starting. Mike Glenn,

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree with you, Pete. I'm just saying as

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Speaker 1: much as like, I think maybe Doug could have shown

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Speaker 1: like what you like, like you hope the good ones

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Speaker 1: he's right. It looks it almost looks like he was

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Speaker 1: forced to start him, doesn't I don't know. I'm not

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Speaker 1: diving into that. Who knows, but that okay, on the surface,

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Speaker 1: looking at it, didn't look that way, Tony. I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna say because I know Doug well enough. There's some

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Speaker 1: days he just shows up and he's like a little melancholy,

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Speaker 1: have come back revitalized. Well, they were digging deep into stuff.

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Speaker 1: Come on, now, yeah, he's probably I mean you heard

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Speaker 1: what he said before, Like JP worse the enthusiast. Remember

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Speaker 1: do crazy blank stuff. Where did that something happened in

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Speaker 1: terms of enthusiasm. Well, I mean, I mean consider where

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Speaker 1: lost six straight games going into the bye week. Now

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Speaker 1: they got to put out a rookie quarterback who they

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Speaker 1: didn't have any offseason program to work with. Stop they

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Speaker 1: don't have to they're choosing. To be clear, they could

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Speaker 1: start a guy who started NFL games if they wanted to.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they should, by the way, I'm fine.

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Speaker 1: I'm agreeing with Pete that. Uh, Luton's like, find out

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Speaker 1: what you having the kid? I mean was time table

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Speaker 1: just got fed up that ball he was going in

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Speaker 1: easily could have started Mike Glennon one week and say

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Speaker 1: let's give I'm but I'm responding with JP says they

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Speaker 1: had to do this. They didn't have to do it,

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Speaker 1: and they could have gone with a veteran guy who

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Speaker 1: started football games before in the NFL and those what

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Speaker 1: expect and like has some understanding of what's going to

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Speaker 1: happen on the field when some big defense evans hitting

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Speaker 1: he might be great. He can throw it, he can

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Speaker 1: spend it, all those different things, but what happens when

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Speaker 1: it's real out there, I don't know. Well, thank god,

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Speaker 1: thank god the Texans can't rush the past. I mean,

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Speaker 1: look what find out what he Isn't let him play.

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Speaker 1: Yeah it might not look good, but so what I

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Speaker 1: mean it doesn't. Again, it's all about evaluation. That's all

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Speaker 1: this season is about. That's all the rest of the

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Speaker 1: season is about. In value. Evaluation, not your eleven wins

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Speaker 1: to go to the playoffs, nothing but evaluation. It's officially

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Speaker 1: off the table mathematically. Yeah, by the way, what if

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Speaker 1: he plays well? Good? Right? What if he's what if

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Speaker 1: he's good? Describe good like justin Herbert looking winging it

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Speaker 1: those things, and adah, it was pretty good. He's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: He's not terrible. He's not like the Herbert. I'm telling

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Speaker 1: you the kid can throw it. If you watched Organs

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Speaker 1: they play I did it twenty eight touchdowns, three interceptions

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Speaker 1: the open practices that it turned some heads at least

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Speaker 1: you're not getting hit. I get that. But we also

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Speaker 1: if you remember back, I remember Blaine Gabbert during training camp,

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Speaker 1: you ever was like, oh my gosh, she is the

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Speaker 1: best quarterback we've ever seen, zipping him in there, and

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Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the live rush game, it's like,

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Speaker 1: oh that he was ducking and chucking and ducking. It's

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Speaker 1: a different story. So I don't know. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: he's I mean, but to your question, if he's good,

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Speaker 1: I don't. So you're asking me, does that change me

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Speaker 1: wanting to pick a like, so, what does he plays

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Speaker 1: the rest of the way, And he looks like Justin Herbert. Okay,

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Speaker 1: how many games do they win? Well? How many's Justin Herbert? One?

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Speaker 1: He's only one one the Jaguars, right, do they know

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Speaker 1: that they have their guy? Yeah? But okay, but they're

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Speaker 1: scoring a bunch of points doing it. Are a bunch

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Speaker 1: of points and they win one game and he looks

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Speaker 1: like Ustin Herbert, do you need a quarterback? Who's what

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Speaker 1: number my picking? Well, if you win one more game,

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Speaker 1: you might not be picking too Okay, but if I'm

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Speaker 1: picking you too, I'm still probably taking one of the

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Speaker 1: Yah I would probably do. But it's nice to find

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Speaker 1: out what the kid has need. Could be a total disaster,

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Speaker 1: But Joe, go find out. Throw it around and don't

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Speaker 1: make him turn the hand off on first and second

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Speaker 1: on third down. Let him play because you're not loses

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Speaker 1: that wins and lasses don't matter. Yeah they do, Yes,

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Speaker 1: they do. You play to win the game. The losses matter.

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Speaker 1: Keep keep piling those up and maybe God, God help you.

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Speaker 1: The Sam darn Old will get a win somewhere. But

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Speaker 1: don't the Jets have to win two because of strength

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Speaker 1: and schedule. Who is it at the end of the year.

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Speaker 1: Who's having easier schedule the Jets for the dag Wars. Well,

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Speaker 1: the Texans will help because they stay. Yeah, we can

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Speaker 1: are not so powerful rankings that we have in the

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Speaker 1: second hour. How about that we can do that. We've

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Speaker 1: want to do. I'm just saying, Um, I hope he's good. Pete.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's set expectations. What are your expectations for Jake

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Speaker 1: Luton in this game against the Texans? This will be

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Speaker 1: the easiest defense. The worst defensive faces all. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's got the Vikings. They're pretty bad on defense too. Okay,

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Speaker 1: but there I think the Texans are the worst. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: By the way, Um, what do I expect? Throw for

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Speaker 1: Now the next start, it's got to be three and one.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna all of a sudden. Herbert does it every game, right,

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, is gonna throw for eight thousand

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Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, when they're down four touchdowns, when

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Speaker 1: you get them, it's and your eyes will tell you.

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Speaker 1: Your eyes will tell you in two weeks, three weeks,

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Speaker 1: your eyes will tell you if he's any good or not. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: maybe in a maybe in a quarter. We'll find out

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Speaker 1: if he's good or not in that game Sunday, let's

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Speaker 1: come back in a moment. Plenty of quarterback talk still

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Speaker 1: to come. We'll get into the defense when we come back,

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Speaker 1: and some a couple of guys that stood out in

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Speaker 1: the s stood out in a very minimal way for

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Speaker 1: a defensive struggling right now last weekend. Some guys that

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Speaker 1: on Jaguars Happy Hour, We're going to touch on defense.

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Speaker 1: We did briefly there, but can we really call this

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour the way Doug came on. I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 1: like Pete, this is going to be a long spiral

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Speaker 1: with you this year because you're already down. It's like

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Speaker 1: and went in the hall. You don't remember that. We're

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Speaker 1: just at the top with Pete right now, and it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a long downward spiral with Pete all year

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Speaker 1: of negativity until we reached January three at the bottom.

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Speaker 1: I'm being positive. I'm looking at the draft already. What

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Speaker 1: do you want me to do that, I'm already looking

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Speaker 1: at the draft. Have you put your first mock out yet? Pie?

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Speaker 1: But but I watched Justin Fields on Saturday night. I

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Speaker 1: want to I want to evaluate these guys. Come on, JP, Negativity,

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Speaker 1: that's not negativity. Negativity is coming in and being morose

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Speaker 1: on a Monday. And we're not morosse. We're looking ahead.

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Speaker 1: We're looking to the future, which is what this team

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Speaker 1: should be doing now. The future the future we are.

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Speaker 1: The future is Jake Luton right now. Future is bright sunglasses. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: to shield your eyes. JP gets so mad when I'm

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Speaker 1: when I point out the negative, when I say, don't

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Speaker 1: like it, don't speaking man, I still I just can't

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Speaker 1: get It's Tony. You talked about this a little bit

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Speaker 1: last week too. I'm kind of with you, man, it's

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Speaker 1: you play to win football games. Now I'm not, I know,

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Speaker 1: but it's just it's frustrating. JP. You're right, here's the

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Speaker 1: difficult thing. And it's hard because why I agree with Pete,

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Speaker 1: hard to argue that if you want, like if you're

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Speaker 1: just saying, forget this year in the pain and forget

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Speaker 1: within the building and everything else, just set all that aside,

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Speaker 1: and you could say, um, we could get the first

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Speaker 1: get him. Well, it's hard not to say, like that's

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Speaker 1: the best pathway. Now, with that said, it's super difficult

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Speaker 1: for me to j P because I want to win

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Speaker 1: football games, because this is no fun. It's so fun,

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Speaker 1: constantly coming in and talking about all the things that

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Speaker 1: and bad that, bad year after year after year too.

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Speaker 1: By the way, nobody likes talking about it, and the

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Speaker 1: fans don't like the talking about it. I'm tired of it.

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Speaker 1: You're tired. Everyone's tired, um. And so I'm with you. Well,

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Speaker 1: Pete loves this stuff. I don't. Just a realist, So

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Speaker 1: I'm with you in the sense that, yes, I want

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Speaker 1: the Texas. But it's hard to argue. It is really

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Speaker 1: and hope against all hope that somehow the Jets win

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Speaker 1: two games. And and Tony, I understand, if I'm a player,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to lose a game at all, And

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out there and I'm gonna go out

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Speaker 1: there and do everything in my power to be the

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Speaker 1: best I could possibly be to try and win the game.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm the best I can possibly be, and

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Speaker 1: the team isn't good enough, then oh well, then you

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Speaker 1: don't win. Then you start looking to the future, and

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Speaker 1: you can they can say they don't they do. It's

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Speaker 1: a natural thing. I wonder if you're a wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: I wonder what I like to be He catch passes

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Speaker 1: from Trevor Lawrence. I wonder what it would be like

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Speaker 1: to catch passes from justin field. But tell me they

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Speaker 1: don't do it. They do it. Yeah, But I would

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Speaker 1: disagree with you, Pete in this sense. I don't think

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Speaker 1: the majority of players are thinking like that. I think

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Speaker 1: the majority of the vast majority of players are thinking

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Speaker 1: that we gotta find a way to win the game.

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Speaker 1: Every coach is thinking about how do we gonna win?

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Speaker 1: Dave Cable and all the scout are thinking we need

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Speaker 1: to win a football game. That's all that, because if

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Speaker 1: they don't, then they're all gonna be out of here too.

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Speaker 1: By the way, and picking those guys, what if you're

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Speaker 1: what if you're DJ Chart, You're not gonna be out

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Speaker 1: of there right. No. But but he's still I promise

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Speaker 1: you if you're if you gave DJ Tark truth sirum,

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Speaker 1: he's not thinking about Trevor Lawrence or or justin fields.

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Speaker 1: He's not thinking about that, Pete. He's not thinking about

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Speaker 1: it openly, but he's fantasized. No, he's not. He's thinking

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Speaker 1: about how he can be the best he can because

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Speaker 1: he knows you don't think. On the Sunday when he's

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Speaker 1: not playing or in the college game, he looks around,

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Speaker 1: he goes, Gods, I wonder where to be like to

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Speaker 1: catch balls from a guy like that. I really don't

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Speaker 1: he thinks that way now. To that point, though, I

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Speaker 1: do think it's the job of what we're supposed to

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Speaker 1: do evaluating is where this team is and where the

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Speaker 1: roster is today and where they sit and what's realistic

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Speaker 1: and what you need to be thinking about, how does

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Speaker 1: this team get better? I think it's hard for them

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Speaker 1: to get substantially better with the current roster. Now do

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Speaker 1: I think the young guys can get better? And then

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Speaker 1: is like the next great, But I'm so tired of

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Speaker 1: hearing about that. I guess so many six rounders have

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Speaker 1: What if it's a group of two? Good shape. First, overall,

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Speaker 1: when I talk about evaluation, it's taught. I also mean

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Speaker 1: the same thing you do, Tony. Young players getting better

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Speaker 1: is important more so trying to win the game. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I get it, not trying to but but you know

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Speaker 1: For example, what Pete, what Pete you're saying? Is you're saying, listen,

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Speaker 1: obviously everyone wants to win the game. If you're on

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Speaker 1: the team and you're a coach and you're in the organization, yes,

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Speaker 1: you want to win the football game. Well you're saying,

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Speaker 1: is okay, let's just step back and be a realistic

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Speaker 1: where this team is right now and great if you win, okay, whatever.

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Speaker 1: But most important, if you're thinking about the future and

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Speaker 1: having a chance to compete for whiteouts and a chance

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Speaker 1: to go to the Super Bowl and not have this

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Speaker 1: conversation year after year after year after year after year, Hey,

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Speaker 1: young players have to get better. You have to find

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Speaker 1: gonna have the same conversation. It's gonna be every year. Correct. Correct.

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Speaker 1: So if you have an opportunity and they clearly do

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Speaker 1: to get Trevor Lawrence, then do everything in your power

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Speaker 1: to get him. Yeah, but you can't. But that that's

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Speaker 1: where I lose you, Pete, because nobody like Doug your

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Speaker 1: own and Dave called well, the coaching staff, and these

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Speaker 1: players aren't gonna do everything. They're not thinking, hey, let's

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Speaker 1: do everything we can to lose. They're not gonna try

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Speaker 1: and lose games. But I'm saying, no, the best thing

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Speaker 1: for him is to lose the games. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: say you're gonna try and lose games. Nobody tries to lose.

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants to lose. And if you're a player, you

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Speaker 1: take accountability and how you play. If I'm on a

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Speaker 1: one intent team, I'm still playing my hardest and doing

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Speaker 1: my best. And that's what you gotta hope for, And

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Speaker 1: you gotta hope the young players get better. But the

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Speaker 1: end game is this, young players getting better is more

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Speaker 1: important than fluking into a lucky wind. Say say there's

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Speaker 1: a part return for a fumble, you pick it up.

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Speaker 1: In the end zone. You will be the team somehow

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Speaker 1: you win the game. That's not showing progress, that's showing

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Speaker 1: you fluked into a victory. Is that good for the franchise? Now? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean you're you're We're just saying we're talking about

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Speaker 1: two different things. What's good in the short term, what's

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Speaker 1: good in the long term. I would to say the

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Speaker 1: long term, medium term, the next year, the next year.

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Speaker 1: Term I mean is finding a quarterback. I mean you

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Speaker 1: have to you have to solve that mystery. You have

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Speaker 1: to find the guy and you have to. By the way,

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Speaker 1: at the same time, you get better on defense too.

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Speaker 1: But that's a whole difference conversation. You know who the

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Speaker 1: number one defense in the league is right now? Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay No, Pittsburgh No. Yeah, they gave up four and

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Speaker 1: fifty yards of defense. The number one defense in the

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Speaker 1: league right what by what? Metrics? Scoring? Scoring? Defense? Yep,

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Speaker 1: h number one, number one. Now I think they have

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Speaker 1: their quarterback and he didn't do anything on But okay,

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Speaker 1: let's take the exact sceneria. Because Miami was terrible. That

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Speaker 1: would you take growth like that in the next season

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Speaker 1: and solidified quarterback position if you could do that of

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Speaker 1: course you would, And why did that happen because they

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Speaker 1: allowed young guys to develop and play. By the way,

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay is number one in yards per game

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Speaker 1: total defense. Who's number one, Who's number one in scoring

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Speaker 1: Defensemi dolfins. But if you do that one metric what

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Speaker 1: d v O. I don't know what that stands for.

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Speaker 1: Like Tampa is the best defense, right, Miami is the

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Speaker 1: best scoring defense, which is I mean, at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, that's all that matters. That's you score

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Speaker 1: compared to men. You give up and they turned the

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Speaker 1: ball and they took the took the ball away. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, use Miami as a gage for how

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Speaker 1: you can fix it. You get your quarterback, but you

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Speaker 1: allow the young players during a season when it's going

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Speaker 1: to be bad, to develop and at the end of

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Speaker 1: the season, that's a that's a good thing. That's a

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Speaker 1: good thing for developmental the developmental process. It's not about

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Speaker 1: for Jackville. It's about development, developing players. So play the

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Speaker 1: young gids you mentioned Daniel Thomas, put them in there,

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Speaker 1: let them play. All right, let's come back. We'll get

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Speaker 1: into some of those young defensive players for this football team,

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Speaker 1: including Devon hamilton'sho had a big game last time out

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Speaker 1: bit of breaking news here Ian Rappaport's reporting just moments

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Speaker 1: tweet from Ian Rappaport just moments ago. Um, so there

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Speaker 1: that's right. So here's another one a fullback. Let's move

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Speaker 1: to defense. Then, in that case, let's talk about some

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Speaker 1: of these young players on defense. You mentioned Daniel Thomas

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Speaker 1: last segment, Pete. Of course, he had the block punt

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Speaker 1: the times he's been on the field of defense, which

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Speaker 1: hasn't been a lot. He was in there at one

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Speaker 1: point for an injury for about a half of a

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Speaker 1: Devon Hamilton's had a good game last week. That gives

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Speaker 1: you some promise up front on the defensive line. In

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Speaker 1: benefiting from playing. You can see him getting better. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree with that was his best game. I mean absolutely,

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Speaker 1: more pass rush out of him. But he's a one

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Speaker 1: perfect example of what's going what what will be a

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Speaker 1: part of what's going forward, and letting him develop the

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Speaker 1: How does going? How does he get going? He's need reps,

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Speaker 1: needs to continue to work on his technique. His hands is,

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Speaker 1: you have to develop a counter move to keep the

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Speaker 1: tackle on it. Otherwise they're just gonna sit bail out

842
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Speaker 1: on you, keep you in the outside, and run you

843
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Speaker 1: around the pocket all day long. And that's what has

844
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Speaker 1: happened in the Um chase on it a little bit.

845
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Speaker 1: Josh Allen too. I mean Josh Allen's obviously further along.

846
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Speaker 1: He's had the injury. UM. I still think he's a

847
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:48,839
Speaker 1: really good player. Um had a slow start obviously, But

848
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Speaker 1: you know, it's the development of that second Excuse me,

849
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Speaker 1: if you're a speed guy, that secondary move. I agree,

850
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Speaker 1: and and but can you learn that during a season? Yeah?

851
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Speaker 1: Why not? What else are you gonna be doing? You're

852
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: getting all the reps? Yeah, I agree. I think he

853
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Speaker 1: should be doing more than he's doing. I think Josh

854
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,720
Speaker 1: Allen will do more than he's doing in the second

855
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Speaker 1: part of the season. I think Hamilton's going to be

856
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: a nice building block. What do you do with linebacker?

857
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Speaker 1: I mean, Miles Miles Jack is coming back. I think

858
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Speaker 1: he's a good player. At some point, you start taking

859
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Speaker 1: away reps from Shober. He's paid on a bunch of

860
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Speaker 1: But doesn't mean you can't admit your mistake. Do you

861
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Speaker 1: see that happening? There's not been a history of in

862
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Speaker 1: this organization of admitting your mistakes quickly. They they make

863
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 1: him even more complicated by just piling on top of usually.

864
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Speaker 1: But isn't a lot of times the greatest thing you

865
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Speaker 1: can do in any you know, I think in the NFL,

866
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Speaker 1: but you look at the business world, anything, you know,

867
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Speaker 1: make him make a decision. But then guess what, when

868
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Speaker 1: you're wrong, admit it and move on because otherwise you

869
00:51:54,760 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: otherwise you just compound that mistake. So real quick, before

870
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Speaker 1: we go down this road, I want to ask you

871
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: a little more about Shobert. Then we'll get to that.

872
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: What is it is the last few weeks Schobert hasn't

873
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 1: lived up to it? And why? But he hasn't lived

874
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 1: up for it all year? I don't think. Yeah, he

875
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,440
Speaker 1: hasn't lived up to the contract. He's a he's a

876
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: good sound player, but that that's I mean, he hasn't

877
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 1: even been great against the past, which was one of

878
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:25,879
Speaker 1: his specialties. Yeah, I mean he's uh, And this isn't

879
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: piling on him because if he had better players in

880
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: front of him, he might be a better player too.

881
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 1: But would you at all consider looking at like a

882
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: guy like Shaq Corterman in some situations. You know, it's

883
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: hard to say pete because I haven't watching them. I mean,

884
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,200
Speaker 1: we didn't see these guys in preseason. We don't see

885
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: him in camp. Can he cover? Can you run? I

886
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't think so. Yeah, he's a he's

887
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: the first and second middle linebacker. So if that's the case,

888
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: then you like you literally have to change your scheme

889
00:52:56,640 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: where you say, okay, if you're gonna take Schobert out,

890
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: you're of course check in the first down and against

891
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: right I'm that first. But against regular personnel, he's your

892
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: mic linebacker. And then you bring in either Schobert for

893
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: Nickel or you bring in uh Williams for Nickel and

894
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: move uh him. I mean, so then he gets really

895
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: convoluted and you're thinking more, a lot of thinking to

896
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: be done. Then I get it, and so like do

897
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 1: I think, um show it's great? No? Is he awful? No?

898
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 1: I mean he didn't play well against Chargers, But there's

899
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: not like there's nothing that jumps out watching the tape

900
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:37,919
Speaker 1: of him, like, wow, he's like a difference maker. No,

901
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 1: and he's not. You're right, he's not awful. He's not

902
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Speaker 1: a difference maker. He just is, and they aren't just

903
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Speaker 1: paying him so a lot. Yeah, so play Joe, play right,

904
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Speaker 1: Dave psh idea is just making play better better. It

905
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Speaker 1: doesn't work like that. And here's the thing that you

906
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Speaker 1: have to be careful free agents all the time. Just

907
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: because you paid that guy a lot of money doesn't

908
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: mean he's like really good. I mean, like this this

909
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: league is this league. This league's history is littered with

910
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: guys who hit free agency at the right time, got

911
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,759
Speaker 1: a bunch of money, and they were average players. They've

912
00:54:18,760 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: gotta paid that great players because they were on the

913
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 1: open market. And the only takes one team to pay

914
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: you a bunch of money, right, I agree? Will Jackson

915
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: will make any deals like for what, I don't know

916
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: deals what we were just trade machine here all of

917
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 1: a sudden. I mean maybe maybe if you like the

918
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: only way deals I'm making is if I'm trading somebody

919
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:44,720
Speaker 1: who makes a bunch of money and get draft picked,

920
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: and you don't because I'm just who who would you

921
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 1: be able to do? Like you can trade who You're

922
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 1: not gonna get rid of anybody on that offensive line

923
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: it makes a lot of money, are you No? I

924
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 1: don't think anyone's gonna pay a lot of them. I mean,

925
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: they're not gonna take those salaries probably. I mean, only

926
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,239
Speaker 1: the only guy he's hurt he's been hurt is Miles Jack.

927
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: That's a big and that's a big salary. But he's

928
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: your best player on defense. Right now, what about what

929
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: about Linda and uh and uh Norwell, if they given

930
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: uh offensive line needy team that might want to make

931
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: the playoff might be interested, all right, who Okay, let's

932
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,560
Speaker 1: just think this to Pete, who is that team? It's

933
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: gonna giving you something worth trading right now? I'm I'm

934
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 1: just saying what Okay, let's just say the Eagles thought

935
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: that they're they're office line has been bad all year,

936
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: but you know they have a center that's a problem there.

937
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:43,439
Speaker 1: But if this team played there, if this team played

938
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: the rest of the year without Linder and played with

939
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: chat Lee and BArch for chat Lee and Can is

940
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: a different well by what we've seen in the beginning

941
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: of the year, now, I mean, there wasn't a huge

942
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: drop off on chat Lee when no lender is a

943
00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 1: better pass protective sha at Lee's probably been a better

944
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: run run player. So but here's our thing. Do you

945
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: think that Eagles are gonna give you a three for

946
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: Linda Norma, would you take it? I would think long

947
00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: and hard about it. I know that. But here's the

948
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Speaker 1: thing when you have to when you're making the decision

949
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Speaker 1: peat and I don't know what they're planning, like how

950
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: they're planning for next year. I would hope you have

951
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: a plan for like who we want to build around,

952
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: and so yes, if Lender or nor Well aren't in

953
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: your plans to build for the future, then yes you

954
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 1: take a three tomorrow. Absolutely if you say these are

955
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: part of the guys because hey, we want a good

956
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: veteran offensive line because we're gonna go draft a quarterback.

957
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: So I look at it differently, Beat, because you have

958
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 1: plenty of cap room pay the left tackle and if

959
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to the young quarterback, I want a

960
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 1: veteran offensive line because guess what, you know it's easier

961
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,920
Speaker 1: than life. Is that the learning curve is if you

962
00:56:56,920 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: have an offensive line that can protect, then than a

963
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: team to just get the poor young quarterback killed Andrew

964
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 1: luck about it. Yeah, you have to think big picture here.

965
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: You have to look down the road like you should

966
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 1: be evaluating right now. If you're Dave Caldwell. I'm not

967
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,719
Speaker 1: as much you, Doug mor Own, but say, okay, who

968
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 1: are the guys that I want to build with? And

969
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: if I'm not building with those guys then and if

970
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: there's any trade value, trade them. Yeah, and lenders contract,

971
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: isn't that bad for next year? And you don't save

972
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 1: anybody by trading him? All right, guys, let's come back

973
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: second hour. It's a bigger conversation just saying, let's trade

974
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: this guy, trade that guy. Yeah, I got it to me.

975
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,480
Speaker 1: I'm keeping the offensive line because I'm most likely we

976
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: got a workie quarterback and I want to protect. We'll

977
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,560
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Speaker 1: j does does then you start again? I love it.

1050
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 1: Hold on before you answer the question. My favorite is

1051
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: and I do it all that time too. We never

1052
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: let JP get through his introduction before one of us

1053
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 1: interrupts him every time. Well that's the whole idea, every

1054
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 1: single Maybe if you can come down, I can't moderate,

1055
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,600
Speaker 1: if I can't talk. I feel like one of these

1056
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: debates on TV, if you could just come back and say,

1057
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 1: I'm JP, I'm back. Go. We're taking from there. We're

1058
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,280
Speaker 1: just giving the people what they want JP, which is

1059
01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 1: more me and Tony and lesson less of me. That's

1060
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: real nice. You're really negative today, You're you're this is

1061
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: your spot on today. Let me tell you. Let me

1062
01:02:56,040 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 1: finish first. The biggest news today, of course, Jake Luton

1063
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,600
Speaker 1: will be He's starting quarterback this week after Gardner Minshew

1064
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,680
Speaker 1: injured his thumb. We also heard from Dug Maron today

1065
01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:09,960
Speaker 1: when asked about the timetable when gardnerments you might have

1066
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: injured that thumb. Here's what Maron had to say about

1067
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:18,040
Speaker 1: possible discipline for holding the injury away from team officials. One,

1068
01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:19,840
Speaker 1: you know, if you're injured, you need to report it.

1069
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,520
Speaker 1: You have to report it. I said to It's not

1070
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 1: like I don't understand. You know, the competitiveness and you

1071
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,520
Speaker 1: where you know you want to continue to play. And

1072
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,000
Speaker 1: I said, but you gotta make smart decisions and decisions

1073
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: that's what's best for the team, and and and that

1074
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,280
Speaker 1: was it. So, um, I don't think I'm gonna get

1075
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: involved with, you know, at least from my standpoint of

1076
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: any disciplinary measure. There's the head coach today when I

1077
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: asked about that. So apparently it happened a few weeks ago.

1078
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: He's been playing through it, Pete Tony go. I just

1079
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 1: my doubts of when it happened. I don't know what

1080
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 1: why I think he's what I mean, was there any No,

1081
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm not think he's faking. Was there any difference between

1082
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 1: the way he played supposedly before the injury and after it?

1083
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: Was there any difference? Yeah, it was worse on And

1084
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I thought he was. I don't think

1085
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: he's been very good by the way, but I think

1086
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: he was really bad against the Chargers from an accuracy standpoint.

1087
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 1: But was that because of the finger? I mean, Pete,

1088
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. But you don't look at the first

1089
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: go look at the first ball. Yeah, but okay, but

1090
01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: then he dropped one into the bucket on the on

1091
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: the deep ball. That's where you're right. It's hard, like

1092
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,720
Speaker 1: you can't have it both ways. You can't say like,

1093
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: but here's everything. I've also played hurt. You know you

1094
01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 1: can fight through it. And certain things work work and

1095
01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 1: certain things don't. So I don't know. I think a

1096
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: deep ball would be the one thing that wouldn't work

1097
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: any through that one perfectly. I believe him. I'm gonna

1098
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give them the benefit of doubt. But when

1099
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: when did show me the play that had happened? Can

1100
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 1: we find that, Well, it happened sometime at Houston, supposal,

1101
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:01,440
Speaker 1: I don't remember you. So the game you watch everyone,

1102
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back and look and see when he

1103
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,880
Speaker 1: heard his thumb. Okay, I'll go dive through every plane.

1104
01:05:06,520 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: Get that done to stand by. I'll be back in it.

1105
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 1: I'll be back in a few hours. We'll see it

1106
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 1: a little bit. It would be a good show with

1107
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: me and Jpe today. All the sudden, you want me

1108
01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: as your cost Pete, that's great. Now you turn the

1109
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 1: table's got about as much energy as dugged in which

1110
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: what are you talking about. I'm just saying I trust

1111
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: the kid. You're saying you doubt the kid. I trust.

1112
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm I doubt. I don't know. What

1113
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: are you saying? What are you saying and you don't

1114
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 1: believe it, just say it and say it. I just

1115
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 1: have my doubts. When the injury happened, let's put it

1116
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: that way. So you don't believe the kid, I believe them.

1117
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 1: When did it happen then, Pete, I don't know. I

1118
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 1: have no idea. Well, you're speculating speculation. I'm probably in

1119
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: the minority of If it happened and he used the

1120
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: game and he didn't tell anybody, a lot of people

1121
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,479
Speaker 1: will look get out as a negative and a bad

1122
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 1: thing that he did. If I'm him and it happened, Euston,

1123
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:07,440
Speaker 1: I want to play, so I'm gonna do everything I

1124
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,280
Speaker 1: can to play. But what if he was hurting the

1125
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 1: team I play And that's the that's what's the dog's point.

1126
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 1: I mean, that's what Doug said. I mean in depending

1127
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: on what had I have on from the team standpoint,

1128
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 1: I'd be upset. And so listen, I mean that we

1129
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: can't do this. From the player's standpoint, I don't blame

1130
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 1: it at all. Gardner Minshew is fully aware of like

1131
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,439
Speaker 1: this might be his only shot. He might never get

1132
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 1: back on the field again as a starting quarterback. Now

1133
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: remember this too, and this jogged my memory earlier today

1134
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:42,160
Speaker 1: about this Gardner Minshew remember in college at East Carolina

1135
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: once purposely tried to break his hand to keep a scholarship.

1136
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:50,120
Speaker 1: He told that story at one point. So are you saying,

1137
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that, I'm just saying going to keep

1138
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: the job. I'm not saying I'm just saying that there

1139
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:02,440
Speaker 1: is a history of out breaking news. JP just accused

1140
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:08,400
Speaker 1: Gardner Minshew purposing breaking his thumbs, just looking at just

1141
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,760
Speaker 1: to try to help his career. He tried to. It's

1142
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:16,959
Speaker 1: a story. It didn't happened. So I don't sign off

1143
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,560
Speaker 1: on anything this group is saying of YouTube, because I

1144
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,720
Speaker 1: think it's it's not very unfair to the kid. I

1145
01:07:22,720 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: think the kid got hurt in Houston. I think he's

1146
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: a tough kid in the competitor and tried to fight

1147
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: through it, and he just got to the point where

1148
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: swelled up. Because if he hurt his hand in Houston

1149
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 1: and it was a broken what was it a broken

1150
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:37,040
Speaker 1: thumb and ligament issues apparently, Okay, if he had a

1151
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,320
Speaker 1: broken thumb, would it swell? Yeah? That's the other thing.

1152
01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: How did you get away? I mean, like, we need

1153
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: to get like a quarterback on here, like do you

1154
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 1: even throw a ball with a broken I'm with torn ligaments? Well,

1155
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 1: and the other thing is, don't you think guys in

1156
01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: the locker room would know that? People would know? Again, again,

1157
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 1: you can't. You're not in the locker room. So how

1158
01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,320
Speaker 1: the heck could you tell? I mean, okay, let's just say, Tony,

1159
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use you as an example. You're playing your

1160
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: team and Brunell's thumb is broken. You would know, and

1161
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 1: therefore window no, no, no. If he asked me the

1162
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: same thing, I wouldn't say anything, but they would. He

1163
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 1: would probably tell them too, Hey, guys, I'm playing with

1164
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: a broken thumb. Make sure you're better in protection, you

1165
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: would tell him what would you rather do? Look like

1166
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:28,040
Speaker 1: crap and not say anything about it now. But here's

1167
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: the other thing, Pete, this can happen if they're if

1168
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: they're minor fractures. It's not like he could have thought

1169
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: he just bruised it or he just had a spring.

1170
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,559
Speaker 1: He could play through it and maybe he got worse

1171
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:40,559
Speaker 1: throughout the game. It's against the Chargers. I mean, that's happened.

1172
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 1: I didn't know my shoulder was as bad as it was.

1173
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: I played with him for a year. Yeah, but okay,

1174
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,479
Speaker 1: but throwing a football, it got worse. When was the

1175
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:53,559
Speaker 1: moon ball for the touchdown in the Chargers game third quarter?

1176
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: I think, okay, so then it got better at the

1177
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:58,439
Speaker 1: game went off, It comes and goes. It's a it's

1178
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 1: a way. It's just here. Here's the cynic in me.

1179
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,040
Speaker 1: He sees a lot of holes in the story, that's all.

1180
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 1: And I look, maybe maybe the kid. I mean, I'm

1181
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:09,800
Speaker 1: not gonna go as far as saying he broke his

1182
01:09:09,840 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 1: own thumb, like JA, I'm just telling you what happened

1183
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 1: in the pastn't believe he said that. Fact, what happened

1184
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:20,439
Speaker 1: in the past, Your family is not listening. That's rude.

1185
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 1: Touchdown came with two fifty four left and the third quarter.

1186
01:09:23,960 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 1: By the way, okay, so split the whole So that

1187
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,200
Speaker 1: whole game, the thumb was bothering him, but when he

1188
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: threw the mood ball from the touchdown, it was fine.

1189
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 1: Come on, do you see where you can be a

1190
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,400
Speaker 1: cynic and the whole thing? Well, maybe in the long

1191
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 1: ball the position of the football and the thumb doesn't

1192
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 1: hurt as much. Could you like shoot it up at

1193
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 1: halftime or something? How does that work? I don't know.

1194
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,400
Speaker 1: Is that even possible with the thumb? I don't know. Well,

1195
01:09:48,479 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. Maybe yeah, but if you

1196
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:52,960
Speaker 1: shoot it up at halftime and you don't feel it,

1197
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:57,080
Speaker 1: can you throw it? Made it sound like dub didn't

1198
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: find out until after the game, right, if you're starting

1199
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:07,080
Speaker 1: shot up at halftime? Want to know about that? And

1200
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: if it's if he thinks it's just a bruise, doesn't

1201
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,639
Speaker 1: he say something to the training staff, Hey, my thumbs

1202
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,479
Speaker 1: bothered me. Can just check it out. I don't know.

1203
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: Just there's just a lot of holes in the whole thing,

1204
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: that's all. That's all I'm saying. You're making a story.

1205
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: It's like, that's the one when you go out front

1206
01:10:25,439 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: you find like when I used to be the big

1207
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,280
Speaker 1: guy and you find out that he fell on the

1208
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: pavement somewhere after the game. I don't know, you know,

1209
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 1: like those stories I used to find out about nights

1210
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: on the town back in the day. Tell us somebody

1211
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: tell us some of them. I was never on the town.

1212
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:47,600
Speaker 1: You might have been there for a couple No, no, no, no, no, no, no,

1213
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:56,599
Speaker 1: no no, no. Tell who else I think he was there.

1214
01:10:56,680 --> 01:11:03,120
Speaker 1: He might have been, but uh no, I mean, look,

1215
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: the bottom line is stuff happens away from the game too.

1216
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: It does. So when it happened, who knows. Maybe he

1217
01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: broke it, he felt, maybe he felt. It's just a

1218
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: lot of holes in this story. Come on, let's be

1219
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 1: real about it. When it happened home, Why didn't the

1220
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 1: team know? Why didn't he say anything? How can he

1221
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,520
Speaker 1: throw a moonball in the third core for a touchdown

1222
01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:32,080
Speaker 1: when the thing is broken. There's a lot of holes

1223
01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 1: in the story. So okay, in fairness, it does not

1224
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: look good because especially the injury, how you're supposed to

1225
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 1: report injuries. He's the starting quarterback of an NFL franchise. Yes,

1226
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 1: bad play, you're losing, things are going. It does not

1227
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 1: It seems like we're missing something here. But I'll say this,

1228
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: when you're adrenaline is going, Pete. You can do things

1229
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: when you're hurt. That's a fact. And you can be

1230
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:03,320
Speaker 1: inconsistent doing it too. So like you can make good

1231
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,840
Speaker 1: plays and bad plays because you're hurt, and you can

1232
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: suck it up. And I think Gardner mentioned a tough dude.

1233
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,080
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe he just could suck it up. And you know,

1234
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: some throws you can get away with it, and others

1235
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: the ball didn't feel right in his hand. I don't know.

1236
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,600
Speaker 1: I didn't play quarterback. But to your point, it's like,

1237
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 1: this is not normal. Let's put it that way, right,

1238
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: there's a lot of holds. This is a Swiss cheese story.

1239
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 1: It is this the matter of you can I wouldn't

1240
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:34,800
Speaker 1: go I wouldn't go Swiss cheese, but we would you

1241
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 1: all right? So what would make it a solid story, Pete?

1242
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 1: Like what what would be from cutting dry? This is okay?

1243
01:12:41,880 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 1: Heard it in the Houston game and tried to play

1244
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,000
Speaker 1: through it. Wanted to stay on the field because he

1245
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: knew he wasn't playing well and wanted to fight to

1246
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: keep his job. People would pay him for that. I

1247
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 1: probably would. But I wonder if he just didn't put

1248
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,679
Speaker 1: his hand down somewhere on a fall and then said, okay,

1249
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: I heard it. He used the game, I don't know.

1250
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 1: There's just so many holes in the story. How does

1251
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,360
Speaker 1: it not get around, how does his hand not swell?

1252
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:08,320
Speaker 1: How does he take the snap? Does he throw the football?

1253
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: There's a lot of holes in it. And I'm curious

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Speaker 1: if he'll be available this week to media. If they said, okay,

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Speaker 1: here's one for you. If he had come out and

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Speaker 1: be fine, Oh, he got hurt in the Chargers game.

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Speaker 1: Now he is a broken dumb But they said he

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Speaker 1: if you're a player and you knew you were hurt

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Speaker 1: I got hurt in the Charger game. Of course, yeah

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Speaker 1: that is true that Tony. Now I'm as as the

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Speaker 1: long term. Uh. But look, he was going to sit

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. Let's go. Maybe he broke his

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Speaker 1: own thomb. I didn't say that. I didn't say that.

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Speaker 1: That was not what I said. The story, it's on it.

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Speaker 1: It's week nine. The Jags faced the Houston Texans at

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Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli. Glad you're along with us today.

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Speaker 1: It is time now for our weekly social media question segment.

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Speaker 1: We put the bat signal out earlier in the day.

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Speaker 1: Here's what we've come up with this afternoon. By the way,

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Speaker 1: is Peter sleep Tony He's going on he does out

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Speaker 1: on us? Is it past your bedtime? Peak? Could you?

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Speaker 1: Could you imagine having to wake up next to that

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Speaker 1: every day? Jake? What about you? You know what? I

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Speaker 1: was over here with a hammerm trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: how to break my Let's go to social questions at

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Speaker 1: Zona Cats Fan twelve. Is it Luton time? Well? This

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Speaker 1: was obviously asked before Doug Maron's press conference today, so

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Speaker 1: the answer is yes, Zona Cats Fan twelve, it is

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Speaker 1: Luten time. The next question will be what can we

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Speaker 1: expect from Luten this Sunday? Who knows? That's that's the mystery.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Doug Baron said it best. I mean, he

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Speaker 1: looks good in practice, he can spin it, his big arm.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's a fairly good athlete. But who knows

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Speaker 1: what happens when he's got the blitz coming down his

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Speaker 1: right down his throat. How does he react? Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to see him because I've heard I've watched him

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Speaker 1: in college, and I heard he looked good in the summer,

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Speaker 1: and I like guys who have the big arm. I

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Speaker 1: want to see what he can do. I want to

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Speaker 1: see how how he spends it. Here's a great test

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Speaker 1: does he do do once he gets hit? Does do

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Speaker 1: his eyes lower and start looking at the rush and

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Speaker 1: he can't see the field? Can he anticipate? Can you

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Speaker 1: see downfield? I mean, there's a rookie. You're not gonna

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Speaker 1: expect a lot of that, But I'll be watching his eyes.

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Speaker 1: Do do his eyes start coming down looking at the

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Speaker 1: rush when he starts getting hit? Did Gardner's eyes start

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Speaker 1: coming down? I think I think I think Gardners did.

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Speaker 1: From the standpoint when the first thing wasn't there, I

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Speaker 1: don't think he could see it. I think he was trouble,

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Speaker 1: having trouble seeing you. And that's when he started bouncing

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Speaker 1: around the pocket, trying to figure out what where to go.

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Speaker 1: By the way, now we know why he had two

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Speaker 1: hands on the ball. Stop. You gotta be a guy

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Speaker 1: when he's down beating I'm not beating him. I'm just

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Speaker 1: being back down. Beat down. You're beating him down, ridiculous,

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Speaker 1: not beating him down? You agree with me? He just

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Speaker 1: don't say it. What do I agree with? I don't

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Speaker 1: agree he's a backup. That he's a backup. That's what

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Speaker 1: it looks like. Appears to just say it. I think

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Speaker 1: I just did. From now whenever you asked me a

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Speaker 1: question that's two pointing. I'm saying, that's what it looks like.

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Speaker 1: It appears that is the case. Samuel Love Duval as

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Speaker 1: our next question, who would make a better president but

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Speaker 1: Selly or Prisco? Oh, I would, There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: He's the Mariage. He's already the mayor of Jackson Mill.

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Speaker 1: So he's got a much better president because you know why,

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Speaker 1: it's one simple trait that Pete will never be able

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Speaker 1: to get over. It's all about Pete. It's all about him.

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Speaker 1: And if you want to be a good leader and

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Speaker 1: the president, you have to think about everybody. And Pete

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Speaker 1: is incapable of thinking about anyone but himself. He always

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Speaker 1: puts himself first, and his money first outside, maybe his

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Speaker 1: wife outside. After that, it's forget everyone else. He has

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Speaker 1: to say, if it's good for me, it's good for

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Speaker 1: me indeed, and I think we have a president that's

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Speaker 1: pretty much like that right now. So I rest my case. JP.

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Speaker 1: That's the easiest question we've had in the history of

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Speaker 1: this show. Tony's a smoozer politician more than I am.

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Speaker 1: Just your answer is on here a political what are

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Speaker 1: you talking about it appears to be the case. Yes,

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Speaker 1: just just saying, President Poselli, Um, it looks like you're

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Speaker 1: gonna do something really control personal here. It looks to

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Speaker 1: be the case. Come on, So I don't think either

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Speaker 1: of us well, I don't think either of us want

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01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:14,919
Speaker 1: to jump. No, none of the above on this program.

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01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:20,000
Speaker 1: Want that next question from Waco Guerrina down in Argentina.

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Speaker 1: If the Jags win a game or two and Lawrence

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Speaker 1: and Fields get picked before, is again any other quarterback

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Speaker 1: to draft? Or do we stick with Gardener until two?

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01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:31,280
Speaker 1: And yes, Pete, the Steaks are the best in Argentina.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I said that last week. I said that,

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Speaker 1: or two weeks ago when he had a question stick

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Speaker 1: with Gardener if I mean, if Luton plays well, Gardener

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01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 1: won't play again. They're saying if you don't give the

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01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 1: question was feeling if you don't get Fields or uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you a kid that's intriguing now, Like guys

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01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 1: love trede Land at North Dakota State. I haven't seen him.

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01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 1: I watched them athletic. He's got a good arm, got

1423
01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 1: weird motion. Um, I gotta do more work on him.

1424
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: The kid that's intriguing now this year to me, the

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01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 1: kid at b Yu Zach watch him, watch him when

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01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 1: you get a chance. He's accurate, he's athletic, he's cocky,

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01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:22,280
Speaker 1: he's competent, he's got a good arm. Watch him. What's

1428
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 1: what's wrong with Trey Lances throwing motion? You mean it's goofy?

1429
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:28,559
Speaker 1: It's not. I don't know, it comes out weird. Look

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Speaker 1: at it. You tell me if you think it does,

1431
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,639
Speaker 1: and just and only watch them, you know, a couple

1432
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 1: of games. But funny the YouTuber right now Trey Lance

1433
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 1: throwing motion, Pete Prescoe says it's no good. He said, goofy,

1434
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: but just it's just odd looking. At least I thought

1435
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 1: it goofy is what I heard. Goofy. Next question from

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Speaker 1: a Jaguar Shark, and we talked about this. Shoberg done

1437
01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 1: anything this year to warrant the starting spot. I understand

1438
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 1: he signed a big contract, but at what point do

1439
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Speaker 1: you let quarterman play be you shock on based downs

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Speaker 1: and you showber to Nickel, I don't know. You guys

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Speaker 1: rock love the show, and that is something we talked

1442
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 1: about earlier. Yes, yeah, but I I just don't know

1443
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:13,599
Speaker 1: right you think it complicates they complicates things too much

1444
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Speaker 1: right now, Like if they were a good team and

1445
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:19,760
Speaker 1: Portman was a better first and second down player, and

1446
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Speaker 1: you might do it. Yeah, So there you go. So

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Speaker 1: that's a no, um not right. Next question, final question

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Speaker 1: of the evening at Jordan's stand sill. Do you think

1449
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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick would lose to the Jets, a team he hates,

1450
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 1: so they wouldn't have the top pick to get Trevor Lawrence,

1451
01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:42,479
Speaker 1: allowing the Jaguars to get a franchise changing quarterback. I

1452
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Speaker 1: don't think Belichick has much to say so, and how

1453
01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:49,639
Speaker 1: his team's playing right now, what do you think about

1454
01:25:49,720 --> 01:25:52,040
Speaker 1: in making the excuses he's making about the salary cap

1455
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 1: and everything. That's unbelievable. I mean, you never thought you'd

1456
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:59,720
Speaker 1: see Bill Belichick doing that. They're bad right now. It's

1457
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:01,720
Speaker 1: not a good team and they weren't going to be

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Speaker 1: a good tea. Maybe he's taking for Trevor. No, because

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Speaker 1: he knows the Jets and the Jabar, he has no chance. No,

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't do that. Right. There you go. There's our

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Speaker 1: social segment for the evening. Thanks for getting him in today.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate that everybody would The Patriots have a victory

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01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: if they hadn't signed Cam Newton this free agent. What

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01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,599
Speaker 1: do you mean, Well, they were the first two games,

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01:26:35,720 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 1: but scheming up things, running him around? Would they have

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01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 1: a victory if they played Jared's did him the whole year?

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01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 1: Would they be open? Because a guy in the league

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01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:48,800
Speaker 1: told me that that they were tanking for Trevor before

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01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 1: they signed Cam Newton, and that he was going to

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01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:52,920
Speaker 1: figure it out a way to get Trevor Lawrence and

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Speaker 1: then he'd coached him a couple of years and let

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Speaker 1: his son take over and leave him with the franchise quarterback.

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01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,559
Speaker 1: That's a lot of concre's a lot of moving parts there.

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01:27:04,400 --> 01:27:07,000
Speaker 1: And then why would he's the one you signed Cam Newton?

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01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I know before that, but it makes no

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01:27:10,880 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: sense you wouldn't sign Cam Newton if that was the case.

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01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,560
Speaker 1: I agree, but that's that was a theory that was

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01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 1: And somebody asked me that. A guy in the league

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01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,439
Speaker 1: asked me that they are two and five and they've

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Speaker 1: lost four in a row, and let's come back in

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01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 1: a moment. We'll get into the a f C South,

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Speaker 1: not throwing the ball. Well, I mean, so we're just

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Speaker 1: working to get him back to I don't know what

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Speaker 1: and Pete Prisco glad you're along with us today. You know,

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about it during the break about that

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Speaker 1: presidential question. You guys, we were talking amongst ourselves and

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Speaker 1: here in the studio. Could Pete even see over the

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Speaker 1: podium to speak? Is that possible? Like already have to

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Speaker 1: how many people come to Trump's rallies. Mine would have

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Speaker 1: like double that For the entertainment value, it could be huge.

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Speaker 1: They would be able to see me. Could you imagine

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Speaker 1: all those signs all over people's lawns, Chrisco, Crisco, Crisco.

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Speaker 1: That's a that's a bad thought. Oh my god, it's

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Speaker 1: a depressing thought. It really is. Welcome back. Sorry for

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Speaker 1: the cheap chack. Actually, I'm not sorry at all. Pete

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01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:02,320
Speaker 1: deserve that one today. Um let's go around the a

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Speaker 1: f C. Just don't cut my thumb off. Let's go

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Speaker 1: around the a f C. S out. The Texas and

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars are off. They'll play each other Sunday. In

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Speaker 1: case you haven't heard, the Bengals beat the Titans thirty

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01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:21,360
Speaker 1: one to twenty. The Colts over the Lions forty one

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01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:27,439
Speaker 1: twenty one. What happened to the Titans feed is terrible?

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01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 1: Have they only scored? I didn't see the game feed,

1580
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:34,160
Speaker 1: but have they only scored a couple of times? Yeah?

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01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 1: They weren't good. They didn't play well to bad. I

1582
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 1: thought they were going to give it to Derrick Henry

1583
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 1: forty times against that awful defense and just run it

1584
01:33:41,520 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 1: right down their throat. And particularly in the weather. The

1585
01:33:45,200 --> 01:33:47,360
Speaker 1: weather was dead. But you know how it goes. You

1586
01:33:47,479 --> 01:33:49,280
Speaker 1: go into a game and your idea of that next thing.

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01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:52,519
Speaker 1: You know, the other team is scoring and you've got problems.

1588
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 1: But Joe Burrows good, really good. Yeah, I said that

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01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,200
Speaker 1: week one, no one listened to me, and they had

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01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 1: and they had. What do you mean nobody listened to

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01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 1: you trying to say he's the first overall pick. Of

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01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:11,559
Speaker 1: course he's gonna be good. I was wondering how long

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01:34:11,600 --> 01:34:13,600
Speaker 1: would take you to respond? I mean, I said, I

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01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 1: said on the draft might that he would win one,

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Speaker 1: not too maybe two super Bowls in the next ten years.

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Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah, he's good, he's good. Uma. I

1597
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:24,800
Speaker 1: was surprised by that. I thought they just running right

1598
01:34:24,840 --> 01:34:27,719
Speaker 1: down to the throat. But they have issues on defense,

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01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about think about it, Tony. As bad

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Speaker 1: as the Bengals line has been, they played without their

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Speaker 1: center and their left tackle and the right tackle yesterday.

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Speaker 1: All three of them were out. And the Titan just

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Speaker 1: tripated today for Desmond King from the Chargers because they're terrible.

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Speaker 1: Change my power ring. Yeah, and you've been on them

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Speaker 1: all year. You you've been on him as the number

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01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 1: one team. I stuck to mind. I thought the Colts

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01:34:57,240 --> 01:34:59,599
Speaker 1: were the better team, and no last week you said

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01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 1: the we're number one, we can go, we're the taping in.

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Speaker 1: But I always thought that they had to be in

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01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:05,920
Speaker 1: the number one spocket. They had the better recorden I

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01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:08,040
Speaker 1: always done the Titans, the culture, the better time. That's

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01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:09,960
Speaker 1: not how it works. It's not who is the better record,

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01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:17,360
Speaker 1: it's who you think is the better team standings culture

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01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:20,679
Speaker 1: number one, um Titans the number two, and then i'nn

1615
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 1: have a tie for third between the Texans and the Jags.

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01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 1: The winner. It's the winner take all. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: have old number one Tightens number two, the Texans number three,

1618
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:48,479
Speaker 1: and the Jaguars number four, and the loser takes all. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know the Dolphins are rooting for the Jags because

1620
01:35:51,080 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 1: they have Houston's first round pick. Think about that disaster

1621
01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:57,640
Speaker 1: is that you? I mean, Okay, there's a lot of

1622
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:01,320
Speaker 1: bad in Jacksonville right now out, but they do have

1623
01:36:01,560 --> 01:36:04,920
Speaker 1: draft pick capital and they have money to spend. The

1624
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:07,920
Speaker 1: Texans have Deshaun Watson, so they have their quarterback. But

1625
01:36:08,240 --> 01:36:14,040
Speaker 1: everything else is a disaster. No coach, no GM, no

1626
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 1: no drafts, no draft picks, and no money to spend.

1627
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:26,520
Speaker 1: Bad situation the Watson in that situation or no quarterback?

1628
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 1: And what the Jaguars have? What pick do we have

1629
01:36:29,800 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 1: within there? Now? As as four? Is that you said?

1630
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:43,800
Speaker 1: For Yeah, it's number four? How good is Trey Lands?

1631
01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:49,800
Speaker 1: For Zach Wilson? You are a little bit early on

1632
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 1: Zach Wilsonbody, No, I'm not. I'm telling you he's one

1633
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Speaker 1: of those guys that's going up, up, up up, Like

1634
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Speaker 1: I don't heard him on anyone's anyone's Yes, he is,

1635
01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 1: he's starting to be. He is. Besides Priscoe who also said,

1636
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 1: what was your famous one that Miami quarterback? He said

1637
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:18,840
Speaker 1: it is gonna be a back in the day, Walsh not. Oh,

1638
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:22,840
Speaker 1: you were big on Ponder, you said, Christian Ponder? I

1639
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:25,040
Speaker 1: did I thought Ponder would be good. I can admit

1640
01:37:25,120 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 1: it when I make mistakes. Yeah, there's a lot of them.

1641
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:30,280
Speaker 1: We can find them up. Like you wanted to look

1642
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:32,240
Speaker 1: at quarterback mistakes, all you gotta go do is look

1643
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Speaker 1: at the draft history that we're talking about. And we

1644
01:37:37,200 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 1: talked about that a few weeks ago. Pete that you

1645
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:42,960
Speaker 1: go back in grade draft classes after you grade them

1646
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:45,840
Speaker 1: on draft night or the day after the draft. Three

1647
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 1: years later you go grade, you're grade again like that.

1648
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 1: I like that. Now, as promised last week, we're gonna

1649
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:58,640
Speaker 1: start this segment about draft order. I hate it, but

1650
01:37:59,400 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 1: as it stands today, the Jets would pick first eight.

1651
01:38:03,439 --> 01:38:07,040
Speaker 1: The Giants play tonight there one in six, the Jaguars

1652
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:10,760
Speaker 1: one in six would pick third. Houston's pick would go

1653
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:14,559
Speaker 1: to Miami. But they were the last thing I saw

1654
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:16,760
Speaker 1: JP with the strength of schedule, that we were ahead

1655
01:38:16,800 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 1: of the Giants. No, not according to what's in front

1656
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:24,719
Speaker 1: of me right now. So uh, and then Dallas would

1657
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:28,000
Speaker 1: be fifth, Atlanta sixth. Currently that's the top six as

1658
01:38:28,040 --> 01:38:32,240
Speaker 1: it stands right now. Okay, the question becomes with the

1659
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 1: Giants drafted quarterback the Jets would take. Yeah, Jets are

1660
01:38:40,520 --> 01:38:42,439
Speaker 1: taking tremor Lawrence. I don't think they do. I think

1661
01:38:42,479 --> 01:38:45,920
Speaker 1: they stick with Daniel Jones another year. You do. So,

1662
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:48,280
Speaker 1: then if that were the case, then Justin Fields would

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Speaker 1: be there at number three in that scenario. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean, but someone could try. But but here's the problems.

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Speaker 1: You're the Jacks. I can jump up somebody. Somebody will.

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01:38:58,080 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 1: If somebody who wants Justin Fields will go up to

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01:38:59,960 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 1: the Giants and trade with him, well they can you do? Yeah?

1668
01:39:04,640 --> 01:39:06,880
Speaker 1: What make sure you got them? You got extra picks,

1669
01:39:07,280 --> 01:39:09,640
Speaker 1: they got draft pick capital. Let's think about some of

1670
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 1: these other teams that would need a quarterback down the

1671
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:18,240
Speaker 1: line here right, Washington, Yes, yes, I mean Atlanta, Matt Ryan.

1672
01:39:18,280 --> 01:39:24,680
Speaker 1: How much you got left? Uh? They bring it? You

1673
01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:27,080
Speaker 1: know what? The Atlanta situation depends on who they bring in.

1674
01:39:27,560 --> 01:39:29,640
Speaker 1: If they bring in a veteran coach thinks that they

1675
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:32,599
Speaker 1: can in. Now they go defense because they got I mean,

1676
01:39:33,320 --> 01:39:36,080
Speaker 1: they gotta above their offensive lines. Okay, they got a

1677
01:39:36,280 --> 01:39:39,320
Speaker 1: ton of weapons. They got, Matt Ryan, they have calf issues.

1678
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 1: Can you get your defense healthy for one year and

1679
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 1: go spend your draft capital on defense and make it

1680
01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,320
Speaker 1: right for the next three years. I mean, that's the decision.

1681
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:48,160
Speaker 1: And that will be determined who the GM and the

1682
01:39:48,240 --> 01:39:54,200
Speaker 1: coaches there. He can still play, yeah, he can, absolutely can't.

1683
01:39:55,000 --> 01:39:57,479
Speaker 1: And so you know that's a GM coach decision. You know,

1684
01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:00,240
Speaker 1: you hired. And what does Arthur Blank want to do

1685
01:40:00,439 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 1: if he hires a gym who convinces him, Hey, let's

1686
01:40:02,400 --> 01:40:05,599
Speaker 1: start this scrap it, let's clean up the cap, let's

1687
01:40:05,640 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, you know, draft are you know, start building

1688
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:10,280
Speaker 1: for the future. Well, then you do. I wouldn't do

1689
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 1: it because, like, finding quarterbacks are hard, and Matt Ryan

1690
01:40:12,800 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 1: can still play. And by the way, they're gonna win

1691
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:16,760
Speaker 1: a couple more games this year, so they're gonna be

1692
01:40:16,840 --> 01:40:19,519
Speaker 1: drafting a little lower than that. Anyways, right I'm going

1693
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:22,280
Speaker 1: by the order as of what would be today right now,

1694
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:25,280
Speaker 1: So Atlanta, those teams right there, Dallas is gonna take

1695
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 1: a quarterback. It depends what they do with that. I

1696
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 1: was going to tack the franchise them. But you'll know

1697
01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:33,760
Speaker 1: how Dax's ankle is by that point too. I mean,

1698
01:40:33,800 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 1: there's a lot of un knows there. Yeah, they're not

1699
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:39,439
Speaker 1: gonna take the quarterbacks. But so the question becomes through

1700
01:40:39,479 --> 01:40:42,439
Speaker 1: the Giants. In that scenario, do the Giants take a quarterback?

1701
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:47,559
Speaker 1: What have you seen? I don't either, for whatever reason.

1702
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:50,599
Speaker 1: How don't we evaluated Angel Jones based on what's around them?

1703
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:53,200
Speaker 1: The offensive line is putrid. The guy that I thought

1704
01:40:53,320 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 1: was gonna be the best left pack all that group

1705
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,000
Speaker 1: has turned out to be the worst so far. Andrew

1706
01:40:57,040 --> 01:41:01,120
Speaker 1: Thomas has been terrible. He's just spinning top and left tackle.

1707
01:41:01,200 --> 01:41:03,320
Speaker 1: The rest of the lines are very good either. Then

1708
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:06,840
Speaker 1: his receivers are always hurt. Is Evin Ingram any good?

1709
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:10,040
Speaker 1: I mean? And he's one of the great teases in

1710
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 1: the league. And then the running back hasn't been there.

1711
01:41:11,960 --> 01:41:14,280
Speaker 1: How can you evaluate Daniel Jones and what's around him

1712
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:18,080
Speaker 1: right now? You can't? Well can you? I can say

1713
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:23,599
Speaker 1: the same thing about Sam Donald, But there's a difference.

1714
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:26,920
Speaker 1: The Jets will be getting Trevor Lawrence where the second

1715
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:29,760
Speaker 1: team will be getting Justin Field. So you think it's

1716
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:32,559
Speaker 1: that big a drop off between fields? And I gotta

1717
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:34,560
Speaker 1: do more work on The more I watch fields, the

1718
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 1: more I like them. He's really athletic, oh unreal, and

1719
01:41:42,320 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 1: he has a good arm, I mean. The hard part

1720
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:47,439
Speaker 1: to evaluating Justin Fields no one's ever near him. Well.

1721
01:41:47,479 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 1: The other thing about Justin Fields is the book on

1722
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 1: him is he locks on a little bit? Did you

1723
01:41:52,479 --> 01:41:55,240
Speaker 1: watch Saturday night? I was driving? Did you watch it

1724
01:41:55,320 --> 01:42:00,040
Speaker 1: Saturday night against Penn State? Yeah? I want I watched it.

1725
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:03,160
Speaker 1: He can do it, Yeah, yeah, you can throw. It's

1726
01:42:03,160 --> 01:42:05,960
Speaker 1: like seven on seven watching him back there. Yeah, and

1727
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 1: he's got good receivers that a lot of as a

1728
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:12,439
Speaker 1: good receiver. So yeah, it's hard to evaluate him. So

1729
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:15,880
Speaker 1: there you haven't. He looks the part, there's no doubt

1730
01:42:15,880 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 1: about that. And and the way the game is played

1731
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:20,559
Speaker 1: today with your quarterback needing to move around a little bit,

1732
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:23,439
Speaker 1: he could do it? What being what? What kind of

1733
01:42:23,680 --> 01:42:26,759
Speaker 1: Like here's what I don't know about either Lawrence for fields?

1734
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:31,200
Speaker 1: Like are they leaders? Good kids? I mean supposed really good,

1735
01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:35,360
Speaker 1: both of them both love love football, Like, yeah, that's

1736
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:37,559
Speaker 1: what you want. You gotta have your quarterback. If you're

1737
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:38,960
Speaker 1: gonna draft a guy that high, he has to be

1738
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 1: competitive and loved ball and just wants to be the bets. Well,

1739
01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:44,240
Speaker 1: don't you remember that was kind of the book on

1740
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:47,320
Speaker 1: Herbert and Oregon was that he wasn't that guy, which

1741
01:42:47,439 --> 01:42:50,320
Speaker 1: was not true. It turned off to be not true

1742
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:52,479
Speaker 1: because guys I know went in there and they said

1743
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 1: he was the alpha guy. You want an alpha, the

1744
01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:56,880
Speaker 1: guy has to be an alpha. He's gotta love it,

1745
01:42:56,960 --> 01:43:00,120
Speaker 1: live it, and be an alpha. Yeah. And if he is,

1746
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:04,040
Speaker 1: then and he's good, then he's gonna be good. All right,

1747
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 1: let's come back. We'll go around the National Football League

1748
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Speaker 1: recap the games from yesterday. In Week eight, the Jags

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Speaker 1: stadium first time. I think that's how many fans could

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Speaker 1: be at the cocktail party. I think it's about the same. Yep.

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Speaker 1: So there's not gonna be any games this year where

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Speaker 1: there's half capacity in any stadium this year at all.

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Speaker 1: What the Cowboys? What the Cowboys trying to do that

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Speaker 1: they were I don't think they did. Yeah, So even

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Speaker 1: if they said half capacity, it would be a quarters.

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Speaker 1: And there's still and they're still in contention that it's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Let's go around the National Football League and some of

1821
01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 1: the scores from yesterday. The Steelers are undefeated still seven

1822
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Speaker 1: and oh after the over the now I have and

1823
01:48:00,400 --> 01:48:03,320
Speaker 1: two Ravens and a really good football game yesterday, Pete.

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01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 1: Best team in the league, most complete team in the league.

1825
01:48:07,040 --> 01:48:09,880
Speaker 1: Can throw, it can run, it can play good defense. Uh,

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01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 1: the Ravens, I've surprised me because the Ravens ran all

1827
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:15,679
Speaker 1: over them. I didn't think they would, but they can't.

1828
01:48:15,760 --> 01:48:19,160
Speaker 1: The Ravens don't pass it well enough. Two bad turnovers,

1829
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Speaker 1: two bad picks. Want to pick six and one with

1830
01:48:22,920 --> 01:48:24,920
Speaker 1: the game seventeen seven, you have the ball ready to

1831
01:48:24,960 --> 01:48:27,800
Speaker 1: go make seven. He turned it over on a terrible

1832
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:30,439
Speaker 1: interception and then they went in point black made it

1833
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 1: seventeen four teams. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, that

1834
01:48:33,479 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 1: defense got exposed with but they got ran all over.

1835
01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:38,800
Speaker 1: But you know how that you know how that is

1836
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 1: when you play that that scheme sometimes it's different than

1837
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Speaker 1: just lining up and running on them. That's fine, but

1838
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Speaker 1: I'm just I mean, listen, I think the Steelers are

1839
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:48,920
Speaker 1: the best team in the NC but they're not the

1840
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:51,000
Speaker 1: best team in the NFL. Who's the best team in

1841
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 1: the NFL? That team playing tonight in the Bucks? Baby,

1842
01:48:57,000 --> 01:49:00,800
Speaker 1: you might be right. That's if I had to pick

1843
01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:04,759
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl right now, it's Steelers Buck, Steelers Bucks.

1844
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 1: That would be interesting in you're just discounting the Chiefs.

1845
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:10,640
Speaker 1: Come on, you go. You know that guy could get

1846
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Speaker 1: hot as I could be. Don't do that, Okay. If

1847
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:19,160
Speaker 1: the game is in Pittsburgh, the NFC championship game, I

1848
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:22,799
Speaker 1: guess there's no fans. Doesn't matter. It might be cold.

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Speaker 1: It might be cold. It might be cold, and the

1850
01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:29,000
Speaker 1: guy plays in the gold, so it's not it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: You could kas too. That's that's way. You were there

1852
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:34,720
Speaker 1: with me last year in the championship game? Is gonna

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01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:37,200
Speaker 1: be any colder than that one? And here and here's

1854
01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:39,519
Speaker 1: the here's the We can discuss this later because I

1855
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Speaker 1: know I'm gonna screw up everything JP's trying to do. Pete,

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01:49:42,920 --> 01:49:45,840
Speaker 1: do they go into a bubble for the playoffs where

1857
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Speaker 1: they play it? Uh? Pick a couple of sites and

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Speaker 1: keeping teams there to make sure there because you can't, like,

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Speaker 1: if you get the point offs, you can't cancel games

1860
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Speaker 1: because of COVID, but you got to make sure everyone's

1861
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Speaker 1: walked down. Yeah, I don't know. They think, no, consider

1862
01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:02,320
Speaker 1: it depending on how bad it is. Talk the Bills

1863
01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:06,880
Speaker 1: over the Patriots. One. The Bills now are six and

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Speaker 1: two feet your guy, Josh Allen. Yeah, but that's not

1865
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Speaker 1: the story. The story is the Patriots are bad. That's

1866
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Speaker 1: a bad team. Yeah, but the Bills have been playing

1867
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Speaker 1: that close. I actually lost a little bit of respect.

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Speaker 1: I mean as far as when I put them in

1869
01:50:20,200 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 1: the list of good teeth for the Bills to play

1870
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:25,280
Speaker 1: that team that close, and if Cam Newton doesn't fumble,

1871
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 1: it might have been a different game. The other thing

1872
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:29,640
Speaker 1: is the Bills can't stop the run all of us.

1873
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:31,519
Speaker 1: I mean, they've had problems all year, but it's getting worse.

1874
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:35,559
Speaker 1: They gotta be able to stop them run. The Raiders

1875
01:50:35,680 --> 01:50:38,680
Speaker 1: over the Brown six team to six ten points in

1876
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:42,120
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter from Las Vegas. Don't worry, it'll be

1877
01:50:42,280 --> 01:50:45,120
Speaker 1: better without Odell Beckham. Baker may feel plays better without

1878
01:50:45,160 --> 01:50:48,400
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. Remember all that talk last week. No you don't, no,

1879
01:50:48,600 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 1: you don't. You want stars on the field, You don't

1880
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:53,720
Speaker 1: play better without them. The Browns are teeth. Just when

1881
01:50:53,760 --> 01:50:55,880
Speaker 1: you think you're ready to say okay, here come to

1882
01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 1: brown playoff team. You're loosing the Raiders at home. That

1883
01:50:59,120 --> 01:51:01,719
Speaker 1: should never happen, and the Raiders have been terrible on defense.

1884
01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:08,519
Speaker 1: They could points to Browns. Yeah, I agree, right, I mean,

1885
01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:10,920
Speaker 1: not much to add there. I mean, I said, anyone

1886
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:13,639
Speaker 1: who says you're better without really good players, right, don't

1887
01:51:13,640 --> 01:51:16,720
Speaker 1: know that. You don't know the game, right. The Vikings

1888
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:22,599
Speaker 1: knocked off the Packers two. What is this? The Green

1889
01:51:22,640 --> 01:51:25,120
Speaker 1: Bay couldn't stop the run, the same thing that happened

1890
01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:27,080
Speaker 1: in the championship game last year to the forty Niners.

1891
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:30,439
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook ran for a hundred seventy yards d seventy.

1892
01:51:30,439 --> 01:51:32,960
Speaker 1: They couldn't tackle him. It was unbelievable. And that's not

1893
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:35,280
Speaker 1: a very good offensive line. That's a little offensive line.

1894
01:51:37,280 --> 01:51:39,479
Speaker 1: That's surprising to me at least when they got beat

1895
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:42,519
Speaker 1: by the forty Niners, the big, good physical offensive line

1896
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:46,200
Speaker 1: with that great scheme. I mean, the Vikings just dominated them.

1897
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:48,560
Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook four touches the same scheme though now with

1898
01:51:48,720 --> 01:51:52,280
Speaker 1: Prubiac running a similar very similar do they now? They

1899
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:55,000
Speaker 1: play the Niners this week in uh in San Francisco.

1900
01:51:56,280 --> 01:52:00,080
Speaker 1: Through the Packers Thursday night. Yeah, but the problem is me,

1901
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:03,919
Speaker 1: who are the Niners gonna roll out there? No Jimmy Garofolo,

1902
01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:08,680
Speaker 1: No George Kittle. Then the ball on the backers in

1903
01:52:08,760 --> 01:52:12,400
Speaker 1: that game, everybody will just swin. Rest of the season.

1904
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:17,400
Speaker 1: Think about the guys, the Niners. A long Bosa. He

1905
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:22,839
Speaker 1: boards out, Solomon Thomas, Richard Sherman hasn't played uh Kittle.

1906
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:31,759
Speaker 1: Most dirt now Garofolo, he boast said, Wow, the achieves

1907
01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:34,880
Speaker 1: over the Jets and an easy one thirty five to nine.

1908
01:52:35,080 --> 01:52:38,559
Speaker 1: This was we saw this one coming. Well, you blitz,

1909
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:40,599
Speaker 1: you blitz him the way they blitz. Come on. Great.

1910
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 1: Williams likes the blitz. He likes to attack and pack

1911
01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:45,160
Speaker 1: the homes kills it, just like he did against Baltimore.

1912
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:49,840
Speaker 1: He will kill the blitz. Yeah. Do we really need

1913
01:52:49,880 --> 01:52:54,719
Speaker 1: to talk about this game? Remember the Levan Bell revenge

1914
01:52:54,760 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 1: game and he had like three carry's great yards or something.

1915
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:02,160
Speaker 1: To his debut in Miami, he was twelve twenty two

1916
01:53:02,200 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 1: for ninety three yards passing, had a touchdown. He also

1917
01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 1: had a sack fumble on his opening past attempt and

1918
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:10,920
Speaker 1: what would have been his opening pass attempt in the

1919
01:53:11,040 --> 01:53:15,560
Speaker 1: NFL he was just average as they come, didn't have

1920
01:53:15,720 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 1: to do anything. Was that the Rams on a short

1921
01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:21,760
Speaker 1: week and a long trip? I mean, was that what

1922
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:26,160
Speaker 1: that was? Or was that Cryan Flores who used the

1923
01:53:26,240 --> 01:53:29,240
Speaker 1: same defense that he used in the Super Bowl when

1924
01:53:29,240 --> 01:53:32,360
Speaker 1: he was a defensive coordinator for the for the Patriots,

1925
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:34,760
Speaker 1: where he played that sixth man front, Tony, remember the

1926
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:37,479
Speaker 1: sixth man front, and then they go empty. Whenever they

1927
01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:40,439
Speaker 1: go empty, they blitzed it. It's exactly what they did.

1928
01:53:40,479 --> 01:53:43,479
Speaker 1: They course, golf was terrible. He turned the ball over

1929
01:53:43,560 --> 01:53:46,280
Speaker 1: four times in the first half. Yeah. I didn't see

1930
01:53:46,360 --> 01:53:49,800
Speaker 1: one snap of that game. I was playing golf. Yeah,

1931
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:53,880
Speaker 1: I came in. I saw the score, like man, two

1932
01:53:53,880 --> 01:53:56,320
Speaker 1: of them us had a big day, had a hundred

1933
01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:59,439
Speaker 1: five yards of total offerings in one. They got out

1934
01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:03,160
Speaker 1: game by the three yards in the game watching it,

1935
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:06,519
Speaker 1: because you know you like the eye test, you watch two.

1936
01:54:06,800 --> 01:54:09,719
Speaker 1: What's your first takeaway from the first game? Couldn't couldn't,

1937
01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 1: couldn't tell. You can't tell from that game. You couldn't tell.

1938
01:54:13,080 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 1: He didn't nothing to do anything. He had to do nothing. Okay,

1939
01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:19,240
Speaker 1: when you drop back, he dropped back twenty two times.

1940
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:20,560
Speaker 1: What do you look like when you dropped back, he

1941
01:54:20,680 --> 01:54:24,080
Speaker 1: was okay, fall out quick before I'm standing there waiting

1942
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:26,760
Speaker 1: for throws and developed. But again, when you're up that

1943
01:54:26,840 --> 01:54:28,559
Speaker 1: big and getting the game, just tell them they'll turn

1944
01:54:28,600 --> 01:54:30,880
Speaker 1: it over. I mean, they had a they had a

1945
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:34,160
Speaker 1: sack fumble for touchdown, they had a party turn for

1946
01:54:34,200 --> 01:54:36,440
Speaker 1: a touchdown, and then they had a one yard touchdown

1947
01:54:36,520 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 1: run that was set up on a fumble return return

1948
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:41,160
Speaker 1: to the one yard line. I mean, you can't can't

1949
01:54:41,200 --> 01:54:46,360
Speaker 1: screw that up. True, So the Dolphins win. The Broncos

1950
01:54:46,600 --> 01:54:50,200
Speaker 1: got a fourth down pass interference and then scored on

1951
01:54:50,240 --> 01:54:52,920
Speaker 1: the final play of the game the extra point wanted

1952
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 1: thirty one to thirty over the Chargers. The Charges will

1953
01:54:56,160 --> 01:55:00,240
Speaker 1: find new and creative ways to lose games and lose lead.

1954
01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:04,120
Speaker 1: It's amazing. It's amazing how they always find a way

1955
01:55:04,160 --> 01:55:08,040
Speaker 1: to lose. They had no business losing that game. None

1956
01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:12,200
Speaker 1: have been giving up leeds this year seventeen twice, sixteen,

1957
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:15,400
Speaker 1: once and twenty one point now four times. Is Anthony

1958
01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:20,240
Speaker 1: Lynn in trouble? Yes, yes, I would agree. Saints over

1959
01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 1: the Bears three. There was a big fight on the field.

1960
01:55:24,240 --> 01:55:27,680
Speaker 1: Javan Williams getting two games without pay today after the

1961
01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:30,800
Speaker 1: not really a fight. It was a one way punching fest.

1962
01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:36,600
Speaker 1: Well he said that Jaunty Garden Johnson spit in his

1963
01:55:36,720 --> 01:55:40,800
Speaker 1: face and pulled his his mouthpiece out. And you can

1964
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:43,920
Speaker 1: see how to play before where Chaunty Gardener Johnson goes

1965
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:46,800
Speaker 1: over and pulls his mouthpiece out. He rips it out.

1966
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 1: So whether he spit on him, who knows, but he

1967
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 1: waited a play. Remember, Chauncey Gardner Johnson is the same

1968
01:55:56,000 --> 01:55:59,120
Speaker 1: guy that got in the practice fight with Michael Thomas

1969
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:02,800
Speaker 1: when he got distended. So make sally. He's a good

1970
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:08,040
Speaker 1: instigator maybe you know, but if you're wins, you gotta

1971
01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:11,640
Speaker 1: be smarter than that. That's just do it during the play.

1972
01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:14,080
Speaker 1: Take a cheap shot so you get just fifteen yards,

1973
01:56:14,280 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 1: like do it at the bottom of the pile. Take

1974
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:18,800
Speaker 1: a shot here or there. But you can't, I mean

1975
01:56:18,840 --> 01:56:21,000
Speaker 1: you just can't. Walk up to the guy and started

1976
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:23,440
Speaker 1: throwing bolos on him. And it wasn't like he just

1977
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:25,960
Speaker 1: like pushed his head out. He was like he was

1978
01:56:26,040 --> 01:56:31,400
Speaker 1: doing like round bomber, boom boom. It was bad. Yes,

1979
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:36,000
Speaker 1: it was yeah, that was yeah. There's nothing worse when

1980
01:56:36,080 --> 01:56:38,960
Speaker 1: you're a scrub and you do something like that though,

1981
01:56:38,960 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about. Come on, who are you?

1982
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it was it was interesting, that's for sure.

1983
01:56:46,880 --> 01:56:50,760
Speaker 1: Seahawks over the forty nine thirty seven seven. The Eagles

1984
01:56:50,840 --> 01:56:57,520
Speaker 1: over the Cowboys last night three to nine. I fell asleep.

1985
01:56:57,800 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 1: I went to bed like I'm not watching them. Oh

1986
01:57:00,640 --> 01:57:04,200
Speaker 1: my god. And Wentz was awful too, But every time

1987
01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:06,600
Speaker 1: they tried to throw past the wind with Day it

1988
01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:10,080
Speaker 1: was terrible all over the league. Yesterday in the Northeast,

1989
01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:14,960
Speaker 1: the wind was terrible. It was awful. Football in Green

1990
01:57:15,040 --> 01:57:18,640
Speaker 1: Bay Cleveland had like sleet at one point. Uh yeah,

1991
01:57:18,720 --> 01:57:24,840
Speaker 1: it was pretty grosses. I hate that. I hate that

1992
01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:29,600
Speaker 1: time for Monday night football. The five and two Tampa

1993
01:57:29,680 --> 01:57:32,920
Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers, led by the goat quarterback Tom Brady. They're

1994
01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 1: facing a team that beat Brady and two Super Bowls.

1995
01:57:35,720 --> 01:57:38,280
Speaker 1: This is far from the same New York football giants

1996
01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:41,839
Speaker 1: there one in six, but trying to battle through somehow.

1997
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:44,520
Speaker 1: Who you got tonight at MetLife Stadium in New Jersey,

1998
01:57:46,840 --> 01:57:49,280
Speaker 1: I mean j JP. First of all, I need more energy.

1999
01:57:49,360 --> 01:57:52,200
Speaker 1: That was a week there was no energy. There was

2000
01:57:52,280 --> 01:57:58,400
Speaker 1: that energy Like I didn't like it, Like that was awful. Um,

2001
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:00,760
Speaker 1: I know you're not excited about this because the Giants

2002
01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:03,320
Speaker 1: are terrible in thes are gonna kill him. But still

2003
01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:06,360
Speaker 1: I need more energy out of you. That was embarrassing. Frankly,

2004
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:10,080
Speaker 1: he gave you the Doug Moron today. Energy. It's contagious.

2005
01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:12,120
Speaker 1: Are you in the building? JP? The five? Yes? I

2006
01:58:12,200 --> 01:58:16,760
Speaker 1: am the five? And to Tampa Bay Buccaneers US, it's

2007
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:20,560
Speaker 1: in the system led by the goat quarterback Tom Brady

2008
01:58:20,880 --> 01:58:24,440
Speaker 1: facing the New York Football Giants. So this is what

2009
01:58:24,560 --> 01:58:28,480
Speaker 1: it sounded like, very monitory. Usually, JP, you bring it

2010
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:33,520
Speaker 1: down from the y Who do you have tonight on

2011
01:58:33,720 --> 01:58:37,000
Speaker 1: Monday night football? I mean, yeah, pull it out? DJ?

2012
01:58:37,240 --> 01:58:42,160
Speaker 1: Would you please tell us what's the matter. You're not

2013
01:58:42,240 --> 01:58:45,240
Speaker 1: feeling good? I feel great good. I thought I brought it.

2014
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:49,400
Speaker 1: That's okay, obviously not. I'll get it next week. Work

2015
01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:52,240
Speaker 1: on that for the week. We're not sure. We're not sure.

2016
01:58:52,240 --> 01:58:53,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna let you. We're gonna let you do it

2017
01:58:53,760 --> 01:59:05,480
Speaker 1: next week, Pep, I might take over, thank you. Yeah,

2018
01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:07,920
Speaker 1: y'all take turns doing this. How about that? I like

2019
01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:11,320
Speaker 1: that idea? No, I like the buck. Come on, that's

2020
01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 1: an easy ahead. This Sunday night, though they played this

2021
01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:19,160
Speaker 1: fake Sunday Night did get ahead a little bit. Tom

2022
01:59:19,200 --> 01:59:23,400
Speaker 1: Brady doesn't think ahead. All right, boys, people talk to you, Tony,

2023
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:28,320
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you, Okay, see you later, all right,

2024
01:59:29,960 --> 01:59:35,160
Speaker 1: Pete Brisco, Tony Vasilli, JJ Jaguars Happy Hour, the Jaguars

2025
01:59:35,240 --> 01:59:37,320
Speaker 1: Digital Network. There you go.