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Go to 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: NFL dot com, slash Podcasts and subscribe on iTunes today. 10 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: Do you Around the NFL podcast features Chris Wesleyan's time Machine. 11 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 12 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Henzas and I am joined by 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg 14 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: rose Fall. What's up boys? Hey Dan? What does this 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: time machine talk with? The reference is lost on me? 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: What helped me out? I think that might be the 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: reference that most of my references are to nineteen seventies. Okay, 18 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: well done, somebody all right, it's it's too bad Dan, 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: by the way, you missed. Of course, last week I 20 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: controversially started the show without You think it's not your 21 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,399 Speaker 1: best moment. No, I think it was one of my 22 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:14,479 Speaker 1: favorite moments in show history. You missed a great money drop, 23 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 1: which was that around the NFL podcast is looking forward 24 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: to the next Rosenthal family vacation. That what yeah, I mean, 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: if if the show had been started properly, we could 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: really all enjoyed that together. What a great money drop? 27 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: Was big news. By the way, this came down from 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: you want to talk about shadowy league figures. This from 29 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:39,119 Speaker 1: an email corporate bot called NFL hyphen Administration at ten 30 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: thirty two am to all personnel landed everyone that has 31 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: an email account with the NFL monthly m VP winners 32 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: for the month of April marone out of the Los 33 00:01:55,280 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: Angeles office, Christopher Wesling, the old old Zeuser and Mark 34 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 1: Sessler and you know, people would say, yeah, why bring 35 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: you know, why why bring this to light? It's some 36 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: silly internal uh you know, pat on the head from 37 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: you know, big football. Uh, but I I see it 38 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: as a great achievement and uh really something you It's 39 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 1: now in the first paragraph of our obituaries APL two 40 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: thousand sixteen. NFL Media m V P of the month. 41 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: It's a big honor. I mean part of Mark's obituary 42 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: I guess would be two time m v P. That's 43 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: always been a running subplot down on the floor that 44 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: that Mark was an m v P winner. Uh, now 45 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: you guys can share the Where are you guys going 46 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: to celebrate? Oh? I was I was thinking, Cancoon maybe somewhere? 47 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: I'm not happy about this. Do you have any I mean, 48 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: what took so long? Do you have any speech? What 49 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: took so long? I'd like, Greg, you are are superior. 50 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: I'm I'm assuming you nominated us for this. That's true. Yeah, right, well, 51 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: why don't we hand the floor over to you and 52 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: you explain how valuable we are? You are the three 53 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: most valuable people at the entire company. You know, you 54 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: provide what of the written content practically on this website 55 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: while pumping out podcasts and videos and all checks out. 56 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: Not bad to look at either. It feels wrong that 57 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,119 Speaker 1: whoever is above Greg and then food Chain isn't equally 58 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: pushing for Greg to be on this list. I mean, 59 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: why did Gregg need to be left off? Greg? You 60 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: might have to take it up with your boss, that's true. 61 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:41,839 Speaker 1: I'm a no time m v P. Still four years, 62 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: it seems still it's still trying to your time will come. 63 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: Greg also nominated roughly eight seven people in the New 64 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: York office, So I'm not sure that it's the equivalent 65 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: of Cam Newton taking the trophy home. Greg. If there's 66 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: if there's one thing I want you to be able 67 00:03:56,480 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: to have the feeling that I have right now, the 68 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: warmth and I believe there's a gift card coming guys. 69 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: That's the rumors and a coin in a case. I'm 70 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: not sure what the case is for. I hope it's 71 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: beer and Uh. But before we get into today's show, 72 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: which I give a pre grade of a minus, I 73 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: want to apologize to Chris Wesley, who, um, you know, 74 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: I stated on last week's show that he does not 75 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: change his opinion on anything, and um, that was before 76 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: there was an I am in our I AM client 77 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: that we use that will go nameless, um because it's 78 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: run by garbage people. Uh. West said, I've come around. 79 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: I love the new Kanye West album. I've changed my opinion, 80 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: and he pointed out that's evidence in proof that I 81 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: am not someone that's too stubborn to change my mind 82 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: on things. So I apologize West, and I'm glad that 83 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: you're enjoying the new Easy. I've always appreciated his musical talent, 84 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: which is exceptional. It's just that I think he's a 85 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: bad human being. Yeah, he says that changed. You can 86 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: separate the art from there. So wait, what's what's shags? 87 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: You always appreciated his music, and now you're continuing to 88 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,679 Speaker 1: appreciate his music. You thought he was a garbage person. 89 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: You still think he's a garbage person. So what was 90 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: the dramatic shift we're hearing about it? I thought the 91 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: album was a little overhyped, and I, you know, I 92 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: went and listened to it, and now he's like, I 93 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: enjoy it. Do you thought it was like Annie Apple overhyped? 94 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: I thought it was like any time Kanye West does anything, 95 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: he gets a lot of hype. Yeah, alright, And but 96 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: what about the guts of that statement I made the apology? 97 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 1: Do you accept it? I do. I think that's very 98 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: big of you. Okay, thank you very much. Uh. This 99 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: is the Monday edition of the Around the NFL podcast, 100 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: uh sponsored by no One. So you got three m 101 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: v p s on the days right now, then you 102 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: can't get a sponsorship. That's interesting. Great show today. UM 103 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: I like this. We're gonna do a segment a little 104 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: later today, UM called is it time to freak out about? 105 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: And then slide it in about We're gonna kind of 106 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: focus on some NFC teams. Maybe we'll do ANFC teams 107 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 1: later in the week. We have a lot of as 108 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: as you know, Mark, we're doing seven shows this week. Yeah. 109 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: I mean, if we don't get to it, don't freak out. Yeah, 110 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: is it time to freak out about? And we'll go 111 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: through all picks some NFC teams about that might have 112 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: an issue that you know, maybe it's time to freak 113 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: out about, and or maybe it's not. Maybe, for instance, 114 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: West will say it's time to freak out about, and 115 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: then we'll go through a host host field and then 116 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: Greg will say something to kind of go at West, 117 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: and West will be like, you know what, my opinion 118 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: initially was freak out, but you're right. I'm with you now, 119 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: but that's now possible. In my mind, it's all on 120 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: the table, everything's in play. It's like the world now 121 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: that now that I'm at m v P, I see 122 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: things differently, ol waffling West. Uh. Yeah, So we're gonna 123 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: do that. We're gonna go through, uh talk about nine 124 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 1: or ten teams that uh perhaps have a fatal flaw 125 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: as we inch and I mean inch towards the regular season. 126 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: And we'll also do the news and there's some stuff 127 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: to get to in the news. Um. But before we 128 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: do that, check behind the glass. The irishman out of 129 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: the office today, that I mean, is it to put 130 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: down the chisels moment that he took a day off. 131 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: I'm not going to go that far. But we're all 132 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: here on a Monday. Well, I think he has some 133 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: family concerns, you know, as you bury him. Yeah, we 134 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: are best wishes to operanding good job. Um, all right, 135 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: thanks guys. Uh. But in his place in the in 136 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: the big chair is Sully. What's up, buddy? What's up? Fellas? 137 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, one of the great characters of NFL media. 138 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: Maybe I could finally get my name on the NFL 139 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: Reddit page on the side, I'm not listening. What is 140 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: your by the way, what is your Twitter handle? So 141 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: everyone knows Sullival he is is um a tremendously interesting 142 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: man that last time he works in in this convoluted 143 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: you have to work for like seven months and they 144 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: make you disappear for five months last time. So he 145 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: was here last year. After he left, he just went 146 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: and followed the Tennessee Volunteers football team for months. Uh, 147 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: pretty much. I went back to college. Your life like 148 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: you lived in your own old frat house, did it? 149 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: Pretty much? So that NFC football program, it's like your 150 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: version of fish. Yeah, well no, I would say, all 151 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: over the South people travel no matter what the mileogists like. 152 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: Your life sounds like like the idea behind a Judd 153 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: Apatow movie movie or something. Yeah, maybe where it's like, yeah, 154 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: you're like kind of like not ready to grow up, 155 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 1: but then a girl, You need a girl, and it 156 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 1: makes you kind of see the man that you could be. 157 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: I could see that all happening. Let's do some news. 158 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: I'm so relieved to be speaking to a graduating flash 159 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: from oldness. If I were speaking at Alabama, I would 160 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: have to use small words and shorter suns. We'll be 161 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,559 Speaker 1: getting into a commencement speech. A little later, was that 162 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:09,199 Speaker 1: Vince mcmah anytime I could fit Obama joke in anywhere. 163 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: None of us know what that what that dig was 164 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: about is, it's all like it's all bamabcc. That's the 165 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: late stage broke called by the way you can tell. 166 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we could figure out with the 167 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: context what it was about. Always funny Southern states calling 168 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: each other stupid, turning your back on the Bermuda Triangle 169 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. I love the South, but come on, we're 170 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: not looking to them for the best educational programs in 171 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: the country. I don't know, let's get into the news, guys. 172 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills took Shack loss In the Clemson pass 173 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: rusher with the nineteenth overall pick in the NFL Draft. 174 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: He had a shoulder issue that got red flagged at 175 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,960 Speaker 1: the combine, but the Bills were very confident that Lawson 176 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: would be able to play without a problem as a rookie, 177 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 1: that he would if he needed surgery, wouldn't be until 178 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: after the season. And then guess what happen On Monday, 179 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: It's announced that by the team that Lawson will undergo 180 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: surgery on his right shoulder. UH rap Sheet reported that 181 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: he's likely to begin training camp on the pup list 182 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: and that could carry over to the regular season, which 183 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: would mean what he would miss at least half the year. UH. 184 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: If that happened. Uh. The decision to undergo surgery was 185 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: made after Lawson had a quote occurrence of the condition 186 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: last week. The Bills were in heavy spin zone Greg 187 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: when this went down the news release, they made sure 188 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: to call it a preventive measure, and Doug Welly lauded 189 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: Shack Lawson for being a team player by getting this done. 190 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: But that's all putting lipstick on a pig, isn't it. 191 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: It was so strange the way they worded the releases, 192 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 1: basically trying to distract everyone from the fact that we 193 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: just drafted this guy who we said a week ago 194 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: would not need soldier surgery, and he needs soldier surgery. 195 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: And if they knew that he was going to have 196 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: this surgery and the early reports are a four to 197 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: six month injury, Uh, he wouldn't have gotten taken number 198 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: nineteen over h That's absolutely true. And I think, you know, 199 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: I wonder if they would have taken Reggie Ragland over 200 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: him if that was the case. I mean, Doug Whaley 201 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: is one of the rare gms that completely whiffed on 202 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: a first round quarterback and is still employed at the 203 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: same place. And I don't I if there was a 204 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: book about this Bills team. I don't think i'd want 205 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 1: to read it, but I'd like to read the chapter 206 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: about what happened behind this rappid who lobby the hardest 207 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 1: for this And you mentioned downstairs and they knew that 208 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: the red flags were out there, and they just bypassed 209 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: it and picked him. It was and and Walley was 210 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 1: so high. Teflon Doug I call him, was so high 211 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 1: on this pick that he was given interviews last week 212 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: or where he was saying that the Bills were gonna 213 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: have three guys, three rookies starting said that Shack Lawson 214 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: was gonna quote walk off the bus as a starter. 215 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: So this obviously blindsided them. And I I like to 216 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: what you're saying, Mark, doesn't it feel like like five 217 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: years from now, we're gonna look at uh Teflon Doug 218 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: and Rex Ryan this regime and we're gonna laugh at 219 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: anybody took this shaping up that way. If you wanted 220 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 1: to look at last year, could not have been more 221 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: of a train wreck. Well look, I mean, if he 222 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: gets back in the middle of the season and he's 223 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 1: a decent player, it's not the end of the world. 224 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: It's just that they were basing it clear they were 225 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: basing their pick clearly on information that was wrong. We 226 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: saw reports that a lot of teams took him off 227 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 1: their board, and the Bills obviously disagreed with that, and 228 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: they proved to be wrong. They're very thin at that 229 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: position too. I was trying to come up with for 230 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: our projected starter series NFL dot com slash starters. How 231 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: about that who is gonna come Who's gonna step in 232 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: for Lawson? And the options are? You know, they kind 233 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: of either Manny Lawson is playing outside linebacker, but basically 234 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:44,079 Speaker 1: when you're looking at lineman, it's it's guys like I 235 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: k and and Poly, your old or other players that 236 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: really have no And this is a team that used 237 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: to be very deep on the defensive line. Now I 238 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,400 Speaker 1: think they're they're very thin, and they need these two rookies, 239 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: including Washington, to come up. You know who agrees with me? 240 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: By the way, Vick Carucci of the Buffalo News, usually 241 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: a mild entered man uh tweeted out after the News 242 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: this is a major embarrassment for Whaley, Rex Ryan and 243 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: the Bills football decision makers. Plenty of questions to answer 244 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: for ownership. I just think that's a terrible look and 245 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 1: it just speaks to the dysfunction that's been around that 246 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: franchise in the last several years. West. I agree with 247 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: everything you said, Dan, And more bad news guys for 248 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: the Bills surfacing just as we are talking about the 249 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: Bills a report out there from Tyler Dunn that multiple 250 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: team sources are telling done that Sammy Watkins has broken 251 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: his foot. So he suffered a broken foot. That of 252 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: course was Whaley's major um power play last year in 253 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: the draft when he gave up a whole bunch of 254 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: picks to UH Move Move up to get Sammy Watkins, 255 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: envisioning him as the heart of their offense. And you 256 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: never want to hear broken foot with a skill player. 257 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: So you want to talk about a bad day uh 258 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: in Orchard Park. My own not a bad omens here 259 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills two thousand and sixteen season. And 260 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: then you have also the contract with Tyrod Taylor hanging 261 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: over their heads. There's a lot going on here. It 262 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: doesn't seem like it's going to be their year. Well, 263 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: it's early, it's I think it's too early to say 264 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: that it's a bad day. And well, I already didn't 265 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: think they were better than a five hundred team, and 266 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: now you've got all this information. I think they're starting 267 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: lineups on both sides of the ball. Are is pretty 268 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: talented overall, but that's it's including Sammy Watkins. And one 269 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: part where you can say that's not true is wide 270 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: receiver because after Watkins there, their starter is Robert Woods, 271 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 1: and after Woods, their number three receiver is probably Leonard 272 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: Hankerson was on a couple of teams last year like like, 273 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: that is a very very thin wide receiver group. So 274 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: losing Watkins and we have no idea the report just 275 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: came out how serious it is, but any level of 276 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: broken foot is pretty serious. And who knows, who knows 277 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: how it happened. I mean, if we talked about run 278 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: heavy teams emerging this offseason, the Bills, if they lose Watkins, 279 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: they've got they are deep at running back, very deep, 280 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: and they may have to run the ball a ton. 281 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: I thought, Carlos Williams is awesome. Last year, you have McCoy, 282 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: you have all five already an offensive lineman, including two 283 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: Pro Bowlers or three Pro Bowlers returning for the first 284 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: time in twenty years in Buffalo. So they do have 285 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 1: some thing's good going for them in offense, but a 286 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: lot of questions. Zach Mettenberger no longer employed with the 287 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Our next news item. Uh. The team released 288 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback who was a sixth round draft pick from 289 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen, the same Zach Mettenberger, of course, that 290 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: the organization um once internally labeled a quote poor man's 291 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. However, Zach Mettenberger never really proved to be 292 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: anything other than the prototypical big guy with a big arm. Uh. 293 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: Scattershot thrower. Six four only takes you so far. Uh. 294 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: He had a total quarterback rating of sixteen point five 295 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,680 Speaker 1: in his career. That's the worst of any QB with 296 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: at least ten starts since the stat was created in 297 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: two thousand six So historically bad start to his career. Uh. 298 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: And now it is over, at least with the Titans. 299 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: He lost his job to the guy who lost his 300 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: job to Kellen Moore. The Titans decided they'd rather have 301 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: the washed up version of Matt Castle than Zach Mettenberger, 302 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:13,480 Speaker 1: which is is damning as you can get. In two 303 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: thousand sixteen, team Mettenberger, of which I was definitely on 304 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago and saw a lot of 305 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: things his rookie year that I liked. I think the 306 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: number one defense that that team Mettenberger would have at 307 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: this point is he did not, you know, fit this offense. 308 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: He was drafted in another offense, and it is clearly 309 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: a guy that's not gonna be a great, great player. 310 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,280 Speaker 1: And if he is going to have success at the 311 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: NFL level, it's going to be with a specific type 312 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: of team and offense. And he's not going to have 313 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 1: success at the NFL level. I mean, he can make 314 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: excuses for him, but the guy has he entered the 315 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: NFL with a late career, Drew bledsoe skill set, way 316 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: too slow in the pocket, way too slow in every 317 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: movement he does, and way too inaccurate. I was also 318 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: on so called team Mettenberger. But yeah, I just made 319 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: that up. I mean, well, no, but it's out there. 320 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: But because there was a lot of like, oh I 321 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: won this one this morning on Twitter, a lot of 322 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: nonsense and for those that don't remember, a little way 323 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: back machine last August, Mark was high on Zach Mettenberger, 324 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: very high. Dear Mr Farmer, I'm writing you today. One 325 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: that will change the fortunes of the Cleveland Browns today 326 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 1: and forever. What kind of statement it is time to 327 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: trade for a quarterback, your quarterback of the future. And 328 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 1: I have just the guy, Zach Mettenberger, the freaky big 329 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: arms six ft five, live wire down in Tennessee. Look, 330 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 1: some don't like his game, but I see growth. I 331 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: see the makings of an a f C North type 332 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: arm ready to do battle. You wanted Marcus Mariotta, you 333 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: wanted Sam Bradford. Those ships have sailed. The good ship Mettenburger, though, 334 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: sits on the docks, ready to travel. This Mr Farmer, 335 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,440 Speaker 1: is your ron Wolf moment, Pick up the phone, make 336 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: the call, do not hesitate, change Cleveland forever. And guess 337 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: what I was wrong? I also remember who they had 338 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 1: at quarterback at that time, which was literally nobody. They 339 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: fresh from a fresh from rehab Johnny Manziel and Josh McCown. 340 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: So they wanted them initially. What I wanted them initially 341 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: to do was to go trade for a guy like 342 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: Mike Glennitt. And that was all that ship had sailed. 343 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:30,119 Speaker 1: And yes, I jumped on Mettenburger, and I was absolutely 344 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: dead wrong. And I am now going to keep track 345 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: of everything that is said by everyone on this podcast 346 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,960 Speaker 1: and get with the producers before every show to have 347 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: it aired audibly. Everyone to realize that if you're gonna 348 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: comment on football five days year, you're gonna be wrong 349 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: about some things. Now we're keeping score. He's right. I 350 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: do want to point out, because market's important you know this, 351 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 1: that I forgot that this ever happened, But three people 352 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: reminded me of Itard for getting into work at six 353 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: thirty am, and half our office plane was volume. It 354 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: wasn't me. I gotta everyone, you are definitely involved. Everyone 355 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: is going to go down in a rain of fire. 356 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: Oh no, oh no. The only the only thing I'm 357 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: going to remember of that letter is that you gave 358 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: us the phrase good ship Mettenburger, which has sunk. Well. 359 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 1: They could actually it wasn't They could claim him off waivers. 360 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: It could still join the team. Well. The only, the only, 361 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: the only place you really went off there and you 362 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 1: know you're just trying to make it entertaining was the 363 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: Ron Wolf moment thing. But change Cleveland Forever, change cleaner. 364 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: But that was all window dressing. It felt like at 365 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: the time there was logic to it, but ultimately Mettenberger, 366 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,239 Speaker 1: you know, deeply flawed as a passer. Well, one thing 367 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: any that if there were two camps to Mettenburger. I 368 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: do think that the people that were on his side 369 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: lost a lot of steam, specifically last season. And West, 370 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: you from the very beginning, never liked what you saw Mettenburger. 371 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: You were dead on. But I thought that there were 372 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: things about him in his rookie year. Name was a rookie, 373 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 1: and I'm not the one who wants to judge rookie quarterbacks. 374 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,399 Speaker 1: After four or five games, I did like some stuff. 375 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: And you not right. You had Greg, You had two 376 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: smart people in your camp, Greg Coasell and Greg Rosenthal. 377 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: I mean Rod Jaworski said something like he thought Mettenberger 378 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: was gonna have a better career um than some of 379 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: the other guys that were drafted. But this is the 380 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: Jaws and Coastell that they always fall for big statue 381 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 1: esque and by statuesque, I mean the way they move 382 00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: pocket passers with big arms. They also loved Brandon Weeden, right, 383 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: I think I'm Christian Hackenberg. I think they love Mike 384 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: Glennon too. I think they did absolutely love glenn I 385 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: think the thing they liked about mettenbergers he would show anticipation, 386 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: he would make some tough throws where he had to anticipate. 387 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you're saying we're absolutely wrong. Who knows? Would 388 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: it shocked me if Mettenberger has a decent career as 389 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: a backup, where it's always like whenever we're wrong about something, 390 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: we're so we feel bad about it, we want to 391 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 1: go the whole other way. He's still just two years 392 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: into his career. I'm not saying he's gonna have a 393 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: great starting career, but if he winds up in the 394 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: right situation, isn't okay eight year NFL backup? That wouldn't 395 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: surprise me. He is, he is too flawed. Most likely 396 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: he'll be most remembered for a one sided feud with J. J. Watt. 397 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: That's what my prediction. Moving on, Tom Coughlin um involved 398 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: with a kind of a strange party of ways with 399 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: the Giants earlier this year, where after winning two Super 400 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: Bowls and you know, being the coach there for over 401 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,239 Speaker 1: a decade, they moved on from Coughlin but kept all 402 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: of his staff and elevated his offensive coordinator to head coach. 403 00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: So Tom some issues with the Giants, but he doesn't 404 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: want to give up. That's not how he wants to 405 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: end it. He told Peter King on Monday Monday Morning 406 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 1: Quarterback on Sunday Night, I've coached forty seven years of 407 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: my life. You take it away, and that's not an 408 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: easy thing to duplicate. Coughlin added that his quote motor 409 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,760 Speaker 1: is starting to run again. He's gonna be seventy years old. Um. 410 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 1: Is he the type of coach? Mark? I'll ask you 411 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: that you would be okay with a team, uh, your 412 00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: team hiring next year if you need it out of coach, 413 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: If you were in a floor just fell out scenario 414 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,920 Speaker 1: and you had a kind of team that could overachieve 415 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: with with with the right kind of coach, Coughlin to me, 416 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: would be a good guy to get into cease chaos 417 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: if an organization is just utterly chaotic and needed someone 418 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: to come in and kind of clean it up and 419 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: hand it off to someone else a few years later. Yes, 420 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 1: I would sign off on Coughlin. It has to be 421 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: the right job. Seven years old should be a factor, 422 00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 1: Like you're not supposed to be agist. But it's one 423 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: of birthdays in August, so he's gonna be seventy one 424 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: going into next season, right, And that's not it doesn't 425 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: mean that you can't hire him, but I think that's 426 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: a factor. I think it's one of the hardest jobs possible, 427 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,520 Speaker 1: and it's it's a young man's professional and NFL coaches obviously, 428 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: guys like Carol and Belichick, you can have success later 429 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,400 Speaker 1: in your career. But I don't know. I think it's 430 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: one of the best coaches in the world. Dick Lebose 431 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: seventy eight years old and still doing good things with 432 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,400 Speaker 1: the Titans. I think it's it's not so much about age. 433 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: If you're right, of seventy year olds are too old 434 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 1: to coach, but there is that subset where his energy 435 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: is there. He's still plugged in. I guess for the 436 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: right owner, maybe, you know, if it's a three or 437 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: four year deal, you don't really care about the it makes. 438 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: It reminds me of um with the Yankees, when Joe 439 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 1: Tory first took the job, and he was not a 440 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: young man, but he was a guy that had some energy. 441 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: But then by the end of his run, you know this, 442 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: around two thousand and seven, he'd be slumped in the 443 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 1: dugout and you'd wonder if he was even alive, Like 444 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: someone would have to nudge him like Joe, get up, 445 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: wake up. And you could tell some guys lose that 446 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: kind of edge as they age. But Coughlin is like 447 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: he comes from a military background or and he he's 448 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: very fit. He goes to he loves going to the 449 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,640 Speaker 1: gym so much. He goes to the Giants facility. Even 450 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: after they fired him. He seems like he's got the 451 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 1: pepper and his step. I think he'll get another job. 452 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: Describing a weekend at Bernie scenario here where they got 453 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: a prop him up on the sideline and wheel. I 454 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: think he could be the Bill Snyder or the NFL. 455 00:23:55,800 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he started as NFL coach career more than 456 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Though I don't you want to shoot 457 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: for uh a guy that's got to have his best 458 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: years with you. I mean, I think, well, but so 459 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: many young guys blow up and do nothing either, And 460 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 1: so it's like you with Coughlin, you if you needed 461 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: a known quantity for a short amount of time. I 462 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: think he's a safe bet. It's interesting the Giants got 463 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: rid of them, and they didn't get rid of anyone 464 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: else and It's interesting the reports that we heard about 465 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 1: his interviews immediately after losing his job, and maybe that 466 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: was just timing, but you know, the kind of scuttle 467 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: butt was that his interviews with the Eagles was a mess, 468 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: that he just talked the whole you know, that that 469 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 1: it was all about he wanted to sort of get 470 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 1: back at the Giants and it maybe it was just 471 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: it wasn't focused there in that moment, But I don't know. 472 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 1: You gotta look at the motivation, motivation for the right 473 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: reason to come back. Moving on, wave Goodbye to the 474 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: Hayne Plane. San Francisco forty nine is announced Sunday that 475 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: running back Jared Hayne has retired from the NFL and 476 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: will sue playing rugby in the Olympic Olympics UM. Hayne 477 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: had insisted this offseason that he was preparing to battle 478 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: for the playing time in the Niners backfield. UH the 479 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: national rugby League star in Australia. UH said that he 480 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: plans to try out for the Fiji rugby seven's Olympic team, 481 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: which is UM a big deal. UH in that war 482 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 1: in that angle of the sports world or that area 483 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,479 Speaker 1: of the sports world. Haynes signed with the forty niners. 484 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: Last year, he appeared in eight games, compiled seventeen rushing 485 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 1: attempts from fifty two yards, had issues with ball security, 486 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: twenty eight years old, bounced around practice, squad and roster. 487 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: Never really was able to make anything of it in 488 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 1: his first year of San Francisco, and will never know 489 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: if the Hayne plane could hacken or maybe we do 490 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: know we learned it in his one year. I think 491 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: that shows I mean, he wasn't even if he stayed 492 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,480 Speaker 1: with he wasn't gonna have a big rule. It shows 493 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: how hard it is to make it in the NFL. 494 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: If you've never played before, this is one of the 495 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,960 Speaker 1: best rugby play is in history. Right right, certainly looked 496 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: like he was an exciting athlete to watch, but that 497 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: doesn't that's different than being an experience player. He made 498 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: the team. I mean you could argue the other way. 499 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: He made the team in his first year. I mean 500 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: that's something if if you're a fifth round rookie, that's 501 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: an achievement. So if and that was his first year, 502 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: I think he had a decent chance to make the 503 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: team this year. I think he had a pretty good chance. 504 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 1: Was the general thought around the forty Islands. Who knows 505 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: what kind of role he would have had. Maybe his 506 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: upside was just as a relatively low level role player 507 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: for three to four years, and he saw that and 508 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 1: he saw another sport, saying the best rugby player in 509 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: the world is the fifty three best player on his 510 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: own roster. It was absolutely the right decision, you would think. 511 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's very there are parallels to the Michael 512 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: Jordan's going to baseball, failing there for a year, and 513 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: then realizing I'm too gifted in this other sport to 514 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: walk away from it, so he comes back. And I'm 515 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: sure Jordan was not good at baseball. I give Hayne 516 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 1: when I think you're probably were about the same level. 517 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: To be honest, Hay made the NFL. I kind was 518 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: the same thing, though, Like it's phenomenal that a guy 519 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,399 Speaker 1: who hadn't played baseball in fifteen years went straight to 520 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: Double A and passed rookie ball and sing but he 521 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: only did because he was Michael George, but not perform 522 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: like like a good Double A player. Any analysis of 523 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's dalliance with baseball fails if they don't consider 524 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: that he didn't start in rookie ball or a ball 525 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 1: that you brought up where college graduates go like first 526 00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: round picks go to double A and that's it. All 527 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: I mean is it's impressive he could make the team. 528 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: When guys that have been playing running backs their whole 529 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: life and have been the best player on their high 530 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,360 Speaker 1: school team by far the best player on their college team, 531 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: they can't make NFL rosters. And he he did. So 532 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: he showed something they have like a designated PR person 533 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: just like furiously writing announcements about retirements in San Francisco 534 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,760 Speaker 1: and we get it out a one offseason without a 535 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: half the roster disappearance. Yeah, and I'm glad that you 536 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: know he didn't, you know, do special teams grunt work 537 00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: and get his knee blown out or something. He gets 538 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: he's gonna get back to uh the sport where he 539 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: thrived and he was probably gonna be the same player. 540 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: We'll see, we're gonna lose track with Jared. I know 541 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: a lot of our listeners won't because we have a 542 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 1: lot of listeners in Australia. Um, maybe maybe he just 543 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,239 Speaker 1: saw the heat coming from Moritz boring. Jurn was like, 544 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 1: there can only be one of these stories every year. 545 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm being outshined by this guy mo Adrian Peterson fan. 546 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: It's everyone out there because I did a lot of 547 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: um out talk last week that are tweeting lye. You know, Dan, 548 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: now that you know that there's an umlaut, you should 549 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: pronounce it like it has an um out as if 550 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to know how what does that mean? You 551 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: could tell me that there's an umble out involved. I 552 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: still don't know how to pronounce it. I think people 553 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: say this guy's an m v P. We wouldn't be 554 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: shocked if he were bilingual or at least able to 555 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: pick up a second language quickly. I was the m 556 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: v P in April, remember not May. That's fair. Uh. 557 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: Finally in the news, Russell Wilson um a bit robotic. 558 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: You could say, you could argue, but some people, if 559 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: you want to really get dig in a little bit, 560 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: we'll say Russell Wilson could be a little bit phony, 561 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: a little synthetic. But I for one was impressed by 562 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: his speech at University of Wisconsin. You gave a commencement 563 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: speech um. He attended grad school Wisconsin after graduating from 564 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: North Carolina, stayed a few years back and he went 565 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: back to Wisconsin and uh showed a lighter side Sully. 566 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: Of course, I'm also here to share some things I've learned, 567 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: things like, if you're dating a woman that's way out 568 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: of your league, ask her to marry you. Well, that's lame. 569 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: If you can throw a football eighty yards for some reason, 570 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: people think that's pretty cool. And if you're playing New 571 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: England Patriots in the Super Bowl and you've got twenty 572 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: six seconds left and you're down by four and a 573 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: second ago on their one yard line, try not to 574 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:46,160 Speaker 1: throw an interception. How about that West? You were an 575 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: impressed though polite laughter. Give me a break. It's not funny, 576 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 1: Dunston Wilson, You give up the comedy act. I watched 577 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 1: the rest of it, though, and he did show some 578 00:29:54,800 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: personality and give up the comedy out of he's the 579 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: least likely candidate on earth to be a comedian. There's 580 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: not He can't go with any flow. Give me a break. Wait, 581 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: do you think he wrote that or did he have 582 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: someone right that. I think he wrote it. I don't 583 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: think that was even comedy. I think it was he 584 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: was just showing a kind of that was about himself, 585 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: totally intended to get laughs, and it did it delivered West. 586 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: He's got some polite applause and laughter. Well, I know, 587 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: I do give him credit because I West's anti Russell 588 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 1: Wilson commencement speech is the most surprising heat of the year. 589 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: I know, great quarterback, he's the worst speaker in the league. 590 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: I honestly think that. Um And if you watch it, 591 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: did you watch the video at all? No? I did 592 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: not watch watch more of it. He was his body 593 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: language and the way he was kind of presenting himself, 594 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: and he was kind of in a gregarious mood. It 595 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 1: seemed like he was being a little more human like. 596 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: And you know Wes. You know me. I've been on 597 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson for years now about being uh a robot 598 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 1: robot and I thought this was progress. Well apparently did 599 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: anyone here see Entourage the movie? I mean, this guy 600 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: can act. I made it through about twenty one minute. 601 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: You did not. I actually did. On an X very 602 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: long plane ride where they give you the choice of films. 603 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: It was like the Fourth I think it was coming 604 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: back from England. Actually the fourth film I watched How 605 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: Bad was It? When the show was out and It's Heyday. 606 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,960 Speaker 1: I liked it. Various episodes and it was a shell 607 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: of that. So I don't know what I did. I 608 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: like it. You know, it passed the time like when 609 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: a skinny turtle whose Turtles shows up a lot around 610 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: our office because he's in like a celebrity fantasy league, 611 00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 1: and you know, turtle got skinny. Audio listeners missed the 612 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: air quotes he put on that was not supposed to 613 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: be here. Um he you know when he got skinny, 614 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: that lost like an important aspect of his character. And 615 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: then like a major subplot is he's like in a 616 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 1: dalliance with Rhonda Rousey. Yeah, it was very intrigued the plotline. 617 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 1: It was a not in real life in the movie, 618 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,239 Speaker 1: and he was like a billionaire, Like there are it's 619 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: a very industrious businessman dating Ronda Rowsey. You're trying to 620 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: I think you should see it, Dane. I tried to 621 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: watch it one night twenty minutes and I had Greg, 622 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: you should see it. Rhonda Rousey's my neighbor. She lives 623 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: in Venice Beach. Have you seen her? I don't think 624 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: we frequent the same places before. Before we move on, 625 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: I got a shout out to give. We were talking. 626 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: We were talking aussy jump in with random shoutouts. No, 627 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: it's not really, we're talking to Jared. I know. This 628 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: is my my attention between Greg, Well, it's one side 629 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: of Greg at Sully's. Yeah. Yeah. So Aaron McNaughton, one 630 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: of our listeners, sent me some AFL gear, some Ausey 631 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 1: football gear because I like Australia. I gotta give him 632 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: a shout out. I'm just saying we might never talk 633 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: Jared Hayner. That's a great story. Where's the rest of it? 634 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 1: Did you borrow that story from Russell Wilson? Yeah, yeah 635 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: I did. I'm just saying I'm just sorry I put 636 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 1: in the request sojourn back in the fall. No, no, 637 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: by the way to button up Sammy Watkins, uh Ian 638 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: and various reports saying he could be back for the 639 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: start of training camp. But it's a jones fracture, same 640 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: injury that kept Kevin Duran out for the whole season. 641 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: And it's a tricky one because you just need to 642 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 1: rest it. There's no real total night. Um. Alright, that's 643 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 1: what's happening in the news. All right, let's move right 644 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: into it, guys. This is a segment called is It 645 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: Time to Freak Out About blesses from your arm. I'm 646 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 1: no one who sent it to Sully to play. I 647 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: knew it. I can see you like disco dancing and 648 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: roller skates called I was not a good roller skater. Alright, 649 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: So let's go around the horn a couple of times here. 650 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: We'll stick with NFC teams uh today, and maybe we'll 651 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: do a f C H later in the week. Um 652 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: or maybe not. You'll have to find out. But mark 653 00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: get us going, uh name someone or you know? But 654 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: of course started with is it is it time to 655 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: freak out about the RAMS receiving Corps? Got a question 656 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: for you guys. I mean, they have a quarterback, but 657 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: they haven't had an eight hundred yard receiver in eight seasons. 658 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: It's suppressing. Wait, let me do the math. Eight hundred 659 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: yards so like we've walked eight hundred yards today, So like, no, 660 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,839 Speaker 1: I can't do the math. But it's really bad. So 661 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: they draft forty yards of game at aurage or something? Right? Yeah, 662 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,359 Speaker 1: I mean it's it would be an unremarkable thing for 663 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 1: someone to do in today's stats driven For a second, 664 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: I was like, well, what about Tavon Austin last year? 665 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: Did he get anywhere close? He was at four seventy three, 666 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: wasn't even at the ballpark, had almost a thousand, totally right. 667 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: They drafted Farak Cooper in the fourth and Mike Thomas 668 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,880 Speaker 1: in the six. But it's basically the same group of 669 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: uh as Dan would say, Ham and Eggers they had 670 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 1: last year. I mean, any Britt is still a thing 671 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 1: in rams lamb. Time to freak out question mark. Yes, 672 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: there's no reason you gotta win with passing at some 673 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: point in the NFL. And it's weird how much continuity 674 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 1: this group has really for three years here, Austin Quick 675 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: and Britt are there, guys, and that is not that 676 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,319 Speaker 1: is not a good one to three and you lose 677 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 1: Jared Cook, which is not a loss at all, but 678 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: you have Lance Kendricks as your tight end. It doesn't 679 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: get any better at tight end either, So it's not 680 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,959 Speaker 1: a lot of people to throw to for Jared Goff. 681 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: I think I think that's a big problem for them. 682 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: I think Brian Quick is the big wild card here. 683 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: He had a shoulder injury so serious that it basically 684 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: took out two years of his career and he's finally 685 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: healthy again. He's got the most ability and size out 686 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: of all those ghosts. Wow, well, I mean Austin Brett. Yeah, 687 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 1: he has more ability than Kenny Britt, who lost it 688 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: on an operating table. I was gonna say, when you 689 00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: should not be counting too much on the Kenny Britt. 690 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: He's more like the guy if he could surprise you 691 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: and give you a couple of good games during the year. 692 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: But when you're asking him to be like a number 693 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: one guy, I mean, this is a unit in desperate 694 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: need of a makeover. I I thought they might go, 695 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, receiver early, but then you forget they have 696 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: no early Wells has It's scared golf. So that's just 697 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,440 Speaker 1: that's just what you signed up for this year. They 698 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: would have been one of those teams that took Dotson 699 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: or Treadwell. I think had they stuck where they were, 700 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:10,560 Speaker 1: But then we'd be killing them and asked them to 701 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: be to freak out about their quarterback situations, so you 702 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 1: had to address some Look, I think you could survive 703 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 1: without a great wide receiver corps. The Patriots certainly have. Uh. 704 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 1: If you have, if your quarterback is good enough, they're 705 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: gonna be a running team. They're gonna be a defensive team. 706 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: Another thing with them I think is big. I guess 707 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,760 Speaker 1: it's a different it's a different topic. But they drafted 708 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: five offensive lineman last year, and if those five guys 709 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: get better together three three starters twenty three and under, 710 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: it's like that's maybe where they can get better. You 711 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: protect golf, you find these these ham and eggers, as 712 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:42,720 Speaker 1: you say Carolina Panthers for a fifteen and one team 713 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 1: that was in the Super Bowl. Well coached, well run organization. 714 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: I found two areas that we might freak out about. 715 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: Their secondary has lost three of their four starters from 716 00:36:53,280 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: last season, Charles Tillman, uh Um, Josh Norman, and Roman Harper. 717 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: I mean that we know they have a great front seven, 718 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 1: but is this going to be the same defense issue. Well, 719 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: I'm not freaking out about that because on paper it's 720 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,319 Speaker 1: not good. But on paper going into last year, it 721 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: was not good. I guess they had Josh Norman. That 722 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,239 Speaker 1: that's a difference, although we didn't know Josh Norman was 723 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,919 Speaker 1: quite Josh Norman yet. But this is something they've done 724 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 1: under Gettleman has almost changed their secondary every year. Football 725 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 1: Outsiders did an interesting article about it that that they 726 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 1: think that's their advantage that they can basically not spend 727 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: in the defensive backfield and make it work. And so 728 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 1: far they have. I mean, and they addressed cornerback in 729 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 1: the draft hard and the forget rookie minicamps are not 730 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,919 Speaker 1: a time to get swayed by stuff. But the word 731 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: coming out of Carolina was that they really feel like 732 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: they got some good help at that position. And they 733 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: drafted you know, James Bradbury and around two, Darryl Whorley 734 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: and three, and then someone in the fifth round two, 735 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: So they're going youth and and gettleman. Teams are let's 736 00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: build up the middle on both sides the ball, and 737 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 1: it's not overpay defensive backs. The other freak out is 738 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: twenty nine year old injury prune Jonathan Stewart. As you're 739 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: starting running back and all you have behind him is 740 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: Cameron Ortis Paint and Fozzy Whittaker, who, yeah, that is. 741 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,799 Speaker 1: I think that's expecting too much of j Stu, one 742 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 1: of my favorite players in the last decade or so, 743 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,320 Speaker 1: made a top one hundred debut last week. That's a 744 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: big moment in anyone's career. But I think it's expected 745 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: too much for him to do that season all over 746 00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: again and even if he did, that's not a good 747 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,399 Speaker 1: good couple of backups. I will now throwing out there 748 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:38,359 Speaker 1: the Washington football team, Um, is it time to freak 749 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: out about their backfield because Matt Jones, who has been 750 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 1: talked up a little bit. Um, I remember a couple 751 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, about a month ago. We're confident that 752 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 1: Matt can handle the load, uh if and I know 753 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,960 Speaker 1: we were high on them a little earlier, uh last year. 754 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,680 Speaker 1: But five fumbles last year in a hundred sixty nine 755 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: touches average less than three and a half yards of carry, 756 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: so they really maybe there were some flashes, but this 757 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 1: guy did not put out good tape. You let Alfred 758 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: Morris go, and I guess he had fallen out of 759 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 1: favor in Washington and wasn't maybe the same guy when 760 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: he first came into the league. But you know, behind 761 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,719 Speaker 1: Matt Jones, you have uh talk about Hammondaggers, Chris Thompson, 762 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:21,759 Speaker 1: Mac Brown, Keith Marshall. I think went to high school 763 00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: with that guy, Rob Kelly. Who the hell is Rob Kelly? Uh, 764 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: it's a time of freak out about Washington's backfield. Well, 765 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: we just talked about the Panthers backfield. These might be 766 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 1: the two shallowest backfields in the league. It is like 767 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,359 Speaker 1: it is a position where suddenly, by week six we're 768 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: talking about someone that the year before you knew, had 769 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 1: no idea who it was. A rookie. I mean, I 770 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: think Matt Jones can be if he plays at his 771 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 1: better moments from last season and he stayed healthy. You've 772 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,359 Speaker 1: got a good running back. You lose them, you might 773 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: be in can you might be in the running to go. 774 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: You know, take Trent Richardson away from the Ravens. We 775 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 1: don't even have evidence he can be on the field 776 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: at this point. Matt Jones, if if you're putting the 777 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: ball in the carpet as much as he's done, I mean, 778 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: that could ruin his career. So we have to see 779 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: if you can hold onto the ball. But I don't know. 780 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Alfred Moore, I guess Alfred Morris must have. 781 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: They must have no viewpoint on him as a guy 782 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:11,719 Speaker 1: in the future to let him go because there was 783 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,360 Speaker 1: really nothing left behind. I'm surprised about that. I'm surprised 784 00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: they didn't add more. I guess they like Chris Thompson, 785 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 1: who was their third down. But you're not gonna use 786 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 1: him as a starter if something happens to Jones. By 787 00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: the way, shallowis backfields in league. I'll take your redskins. 788 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: I'll raise you the Dolphins J. G. I A and 789 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake one too. But yeah, but you're forgetting that 790 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: they're gonna overspend for Aaron Foster and about for the 791 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: eight weeks. All right, you're up? Uh? Is it time? 792 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,400 Speaker 1: And I know this is strange because look, this is 793 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 1: this is our team, last year team around the NFL. Oh, 794 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get West Angry. I can. It's also it's 795 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: also the team that Football Outsiders projected. That's what I 796 00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: like to hear. Those are the team football outsiders. The 797 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,680 Speaker 1: relationship between Greg and Sully slowly coming. Well, it's frosty. 798 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,720 Speaker 1: Let's not like Football Outsiders projected them in their recent 799 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,719 Speaker 1: rankings previewing the season as the best team in the league. 800 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals getting the most wins. So they're very 801 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,040 Speaker 1: good in a lot of spots. But I have two spots. 802 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 1: Is it time to freak out about their tackle situation? 803 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 1: They have one tackle on the roster that has ever 804 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: played in an NFL game. That seems crazy, That seems 805 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,959 Speaker 1: almost impossible, but that is true. They don't. That's Jared 806 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 1: vel Deer, a very good left tackle. They're gonna be 807 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: starting their first round pick, d J. Humphreys from a 808 00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,000 Speaker 1: year ago at right tackle. And this isn't the same 809 00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: Cardinals with the thirty eight year old quarterback coming off 810 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 1: double A c L surgeries in his career, thirty six 811 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 1: year old, Well, he's not coming off the injury right now. 812 00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: My point is is that you know it's not a 813 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: fleet of foot guy behind center. He had better pock 814 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: mobility last year than any season in his career. That's true. Well, 815 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: it's a little strange that they don't have like a 816 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,760 Speaker 1: third tackle at all. I us Earl Watford can play tackle. 817 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,439 Speaker 1: Yeah he has before. I guess he's slated. But you 818 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: you're talking about a problem where okay, that's fine our 819 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: offensive line where we just picked up an All Pro 820 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: guard in Evan Mathis and we're sliding in a first 821 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: round talent at right tackle and you've got micro a 822 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: potty at left card I mean, if here's the thing 823 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,400 Speaker 1: of d J. Humphries comes in and he can start 824 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 1: at right tackle and he's solid, you have no problem. 825 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: Not with the rest of this line, you have no 826 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: problem if it stays healthy. If you get hit with injuries, 827 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:28,600 Speaker 1: like a lot of NFL lines, you're you're running for 828 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 1: the hills. Okay, well, how about this. You guys aren't 829 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,960 Speaker 1: buying that? Are you guys freaking out about the fact 830 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: that Justin Bethel is their number two quarterback and their 831 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: number three quarterback? Is I have no idea. I really 832 00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 1: don't see anyone on the roster that that's played quality 833 00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: snaps at cornerback that that is as as then a 834 00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: quarterback group, very deep at safety, but it's then a 835 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: quarterback group. Has any team in the league. Greg's got 836 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,360 Speaker 1: the Cardinals at seven and dollars. Now, I like the 837 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 1: card I'll buy that one. But I think they're probably 838 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 1: counting on Tyron Matthew playing some quarterback. And I had 839 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: a well placed team source tell me who he wasn't 840 00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,239 Speaker 1: too happy with Justin Bethel as the starting cornerback and 841 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,799 Speaker 1: he just had surgery. By the way, Hey, I go 842 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,319 Speaker 1: on airplanes. I talked to coaches like Mark does. Is 843 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 1: that is this your first dropped source on the podcast? 844 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:23,280 Speaker 1: It might be what an V move? Yeah? Yeah, alright, back, Greg, 845 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 1: Mark Seessler, you're up all right, is it time to 846 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,120 Speaker 1: freak out about something? We have been freaking out a 847 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: little bit? Should we still be freaking out about the 848 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: forty Niners quarterback situation? I want to tell you why 849 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: Greg forwarded to me a very fascinating uh what I 850 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: would call it a column and editorial. Greg, it was 851 00:43:44,160 --> 00:43:46,680 Speaker 1: a it was a column. Basically here we go. Grant 852 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: Cone from the Santa Rosa Press Democrat raised an interesting 853 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: question about the forty Niners. Does the team want Blaine 854 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: Gabber to win the job in an effort to punish 855 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,319 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick. Cone points to the fact that you can 856 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 1: barely find a photo of cow Bernick on the team's 857 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: website currently, and this is during a bunch of rookie manicamps. 858 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:07,760 Speaker 1: Not a single picture of Kaepernick anywhere and any team activity, 859 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: writes our man Cone. We see Blaine Gabbert walking to 860 00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,800 Speaker 1: practice as the sun sparkles on his face and smiles. 861 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,439 Speaker 1: He's happy, Gabert. He's wearing a backward hat. A few 862 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,959 Speaker 1: pictures later, we see serious Gabbert practicing his play action fake, 863 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,560 Speaker 1: and then we see him throwing a football. We see 864 00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: him with his hands on his hips. Gabbert Gabert looking 865 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: at the camera, Gabbert jumping into the air, Gabbert standing 866 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: in the pocket, Gabbert scanning the field. I hate saying 867 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 1: this guy's name. We see a lot of Gabbert. The 868 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: creators of this game bombard you with the blonde haired quarterback. 869 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,320 Speaker 1: But where's Colin? He suggest that. He suggests that the 870 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: Niners want Colin Kaepernick to fade into the background and 871 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: quotes and drop off the edge. Doesn't he have is 872 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,839 Speaker 1: here recovering him shoulder surgery. He's that that's the thing 873 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:54,799 Speaker 1: that he seems like he's stretching here a little bit. 874 00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: He same my theory a little bit. He's at the practices, 875 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,879 Speaker 1: but he's not playing, just kind of watching the part. 876 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,439 Speaker 1: That was interesting. He says, I bet the Niners want 877 00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: Colin to lose the quarterback competition. Okay, I could buy that. 878 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,840 Speaker 1: I think the front actress is tired of him. Teammates 879 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: are tired of him too, and they basically want to 880 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,560 Speaker 1: stick it in. Kaepernicks knows that this is what happens 881 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,719 Speaker 1: when you go against the big bad forty Niners. We're 882 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: gonna rub your your face in it. I think that 883 00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,799 Speaker 1: seems maybe maybe he says he thinks he wants to 884 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,399 Speaker 1: be embarrass him and make an example. I think that's 885 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 1: a terrible way to run a franchise. No, but he 886 00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: said it was a good way to do it. But 887 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: the hatred is real between these two sides. And I've 888 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: been saying that for months, Um, are you signing a 889 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: team source that? Well, I think I'm citing common sense. 890 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 1: I think get if that's how you feel, get him 891 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: off the roster. I know the money is guaranteed. That's 892 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: your fault. They look, they lost their leverage play, Kaepernick 893 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 1: lost his leverage and John Elway beat But the forty 894 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 1: Niners and Kaepernick? Who who you guys? Who do you 895 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 1: guys picked to start Week one? Dan Um? Now, after 896 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: Mark read that, now I'm really thinking it could be Well, 897 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: I don't think Grant Cone is some fairness. Grant if 898 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 1: you look back there as archives says an anti Kaepernick 899 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,840 Speaker 1: agenda through the years. Well to one thing, if Brady 900 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: were nursing a shoulder surgery but he were on the sideline, 901 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 1: you think Patriots dot Com would have Oh no, you 902 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: can have a picture of Tom Brady. Wait, because he's 903 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 1: not pat Com isn't Yeah, uh yeah, I think if 904 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 1: it's an actual competition, um, I think Kaepernick has a 905 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: good chance to win it. But I don't even know 906 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,879 Speaker 1: if he's gonna be healthy enough to really compete. And 907 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 1: you know that that will. One thing i'd say matters 908 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: is the locker room matters. And and I know that 909 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: it's the time of overly glowing reports. But the teammates 910 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,759 Speaker 1: of Blaine Gabbert have been talking him up, saying that 911 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 1: he's been plugged in, he's been their leader, where kaepernicks 912 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,000 Speaker 1: off on this different quest that can all change between 913 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: now in the season of the offseason trope though right 914 00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:49,880 Speaker 1: it does. I just said I agree with with that. 915 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,080 Speaker 1: But Chip Kelly's quotes on Gabbert last week, I don't 916 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,600 Speaker 1: listen to. The one thing that jumped out right away 917 00:46:55,640 --> 00:46:58,239 Speaker 1: was just how athletic Blaine was. We did not play 918 00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,880 Speaker 1: against him when I was in Philly, so this is 919 00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,800 Speaker 1: really my first exposure to him. But I think his 920 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: athleticism is the first thing that jumped out. How are 921 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,719 Speaker 1: you furnishing Gabbett's place in your stable of boys? I 922 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: don't He's not in part or he's not in it. 923 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,880 Speaker 1: I just think he's gonna win the Colin. Colin Kaepernick 924 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,399 Speaker 1: got benched for a reason last year, and I think 925 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,920 Speaker 1: I kind of agree that the organization is not sold 926 00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,560 Speaker 1: on him and he doesn't want to be there. There's 927 00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,040 Speaker 1: still I agree with that, and I and Gabert might 928 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: be the week one starter. I don't think it matters 929 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,799 Speaker 1: that much because I think they'll both start at least 930 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: five games each. Don't you want to think back to 931 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: what you thought of about Colin Kaepernick in two thousand 932 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: thirteen and think a little bit back to what you 933 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: thought of Chip Kelly in two thousand fourteen or fifteen, 934 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,359 Speaker 1: and putting those two guys together. Couldn't that at least 935 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,680 Speaker 1: have a chance to be something? Yes, it could, but 936 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 1: I would at least can't we have that as a possibility. 937 00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,359 Speaker 1: I think it's possible. I would also factor in that 938 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,720 Speaker 1: these aren't just chess pieces. That when your quarterback spends 939 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,640 Speaker 1: all offseason trying to get out of your organization, that people, 940 00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:59,759 Speaker 1: especially in the front office and the coaches and your 941 00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,160 Speaker 1: team mates take this stuff personally. This is meant to 942 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,399 Speaker 1: be your leader and he doesn't want to be there. 943 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,839 Speaker 1: That's that's poisonous, that's negative. What makes you think that 944 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,760 Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick is a better fit for Chip Kelly system 945 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,839 Speaker 1: than bling Gabberd is nothing. I mean, just that I've 946 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 1: seen Kaepernick succeed at the NFL level and I haven't 947 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,840 Speaker 1: seen I think Gabbert play had moments last year. I 948 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,759 Speaker 1: think he got a little over overplayed, especially if you 949 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 1: watch his last few games. You said that you wanted 950 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 1: Kaepernick to um or you could see Kaepernick wanting to 951 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,480 Speaker 1: stick it in their nose. I think it's stick it 952 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: in their ear. I said that, Well, they would both hurt, 953 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: depending depending what it is that would not be played 954 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,799 Speaker 1: with the orifices. Um West, you're up. Well, I think 955 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:44,200 Speaker 1: we look at Greg before you. To answer Mark's question, Yes, 956 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: it is time to freak out about the forty nine quarterbackfast. Yes, 957 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 1: I don't care who's playing, it's time to Kaepernick does 958 00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,560 Speaker 1: have a prominent beak, by the way I mean, so 959 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:56,440 Speaker 1: maybe that's what has a little over the line. Greg's 960 00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: favorite team, the Seattle Seahawks, the best in the league. 961 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 1: Should we be freaking out about the fact that their 962 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 1: offensive line will not have a single starter playing the 963 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,279 Speaker 1: same position this year as last year. I'm gonna say no, 964 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,440 Speaker 1: if only because their offensive line has been lousy this 965 00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 1: whole Carol run I. Someone wrote it, I'm not sure 966 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 1: who like that. It's almost been like an experiment to 967 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,880 Speaker 1: see how good can your NFL team be without a 968 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 1: without a halfway decent offensive line. That's what the entire 969 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,120 Speaker 1: Carrol Schneider era seems like it's been. It's weird how 970 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 1: bad it is, how little they fix it year after year. Well, 971 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,800 Speaker 1: I think they've decided, and a lot of teams decide, 972 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,480 Speaker 1: we have to give up, we have to surrender some 973 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 1: part of our roster, putting resources into that area if 974 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,399 Speaker 1: we're gonna do it in other areas. And they rely 975 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,920 Speaker 1: totally on Russell Wilson's elusiveness and Tom Cable's ability to 976 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 1: coach up in offensive line. Maybe their offensive line proof, 977 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,359 Speaker 1: which is not something you hear a lot, but because 978 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson was literally unstoppable in the last half of 979 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 1: last season. Thomas Rawls, before he broke his leg, was 980 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:00,799 Speaker 1: running like one of the top five running backs in 981 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 1: the entire league, and that was behind not a great 982 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:06,839 Speaker 1: line either, So maybe they just one, I mean, only 983 00:50:06,880 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks for sacked more than Russell Wilson last year, 984 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 1: So there is a cost, and if it ends up 985 00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson getting injured because of faulty protection, then 986 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,359 Speaker 1: the season is basically a disaster. I mean they've invested picks. 987 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,239 Speaker 1: They took a first and a third round pick this year, 988 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 1: they took a second round pick last year. Who's now 989 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 1: moving to center? They're moving their right tackle to the 990 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,719 Speaker 1: left tackle. I went through this for projected. There's competition 991 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,240 Speaker 1: at all five positions. I don't think there's one locked 992 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,279 Speaker 1: up spot. It's just like wide wide open. They'll see 993 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,839 Speaker 1: what happens. Tom Cable, that offensive lack more jittery than 994 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:42,839 Speaker 1: the gop am. I right, guys, whoa political podcast coming 995 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 1: up a little later this summer. Tune in Greig last one. 996 00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,879 Speaker 1: Oh well you don't have a second one. No, we're 997 00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 1: on time. We're short on time. This is how I 998 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,719 Speaker 1: got the MVP Awards selflessness. That's that's smart of you. 999 00:50:54,360 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 1: Uh my thing whatever works might think, uh that, I'm 1000 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,480 Speaker 1: not that I alright, here we go again. Well, you're 1001 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:12,399 Speaker 1: confusing me all right. About the time to freak out 1002 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:16,800 Speaker 1: about the Cowboys front seven, especially their defensive line to 1003 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:21,959 Speaker 1: Marcus Lawrence suspended coming off back surgery. Randy Gregory suspended. 1004 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 1: I have no idea who's going to be starting for them. 1005 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: At defensive end. You have Tyrone Crawford, who is a 1006 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,799 Speaker 1: pretty good player. Cedric Thornton's from Philadelphia, no depth, You 1007 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 1: took a couple of mid round picks. You also have 1008 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,720 Speaker 1: guys like Sean Lee and Rolando McClay were great players 1009 00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,360 Speaker 1: at linebacker. But those are boomer bust guys that have 1010 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,239 Speaker 1: had injury problems or suspension problems. It feels like this 1011 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,200 Speaker 1: whole thing could be great or it could just blow up. 1012 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:47,080 Speaker 1: It's a boomer bust front seven is the time to 1013 00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,000 Speaker 1: freak out about the front set. The top two edge 1014 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,879 Speaker 1: rushers are suspended. That's horrible, right, And I say yes, 1015 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 1: because don't forget about Jalen Smith too. I mean, he's 1016 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:59,279 Speaker 1: he's gonna sit out of here. He's not an right there. 1017 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:01,319 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tay Can even further, greg you could freak 1018 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 1: out about their entire defense because their secondary kind of 1019 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,200 Speaker 1: stinks too. It doesn't I mean you're keeping Brandon car 1020 00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 1: what else needs to be said. I mean this whole 1021 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,480 Speaker 1: defense is is potentially switch che Yeah. When you get 1022 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,400 Speaker 1: to this point in the off season where free agency 1023 00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:15,239 Speaker 1: in the draft to pass you by, and you had 1024 00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:17,839 Speaker 1: a lot of plans in place, and they a lot 1025 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:19,239 Speaker 1: of things are now gone wrong and you don't have 1026 00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,560 Speaker 1: a way to address it. It's freak out time. I 1027 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 1: think their offensive starting lineup is maybe as good as 1028 00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,960 Speaker 1: any in football, or they can certainly believe that. But 1029 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,799 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to score, you know, thirty points a game. Again, 1030 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,799 Speaker 1: be an offensive team with their quarterback stays up right. 1031 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 1: Anything you can assume going against the green here. So 1032 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:39,879 Speaker 1: they have to just make it through the first month 1033 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,319 Speaker 1: of the season without those two top pass rushers. Well 1034 00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:44,600 Speaker 1: if they if they do that, then we can lower 1035 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,879 Speaker 1: the free count. Well, I think Lawrence looks like he's 1036 00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:48,680 Speaker 1: going to be a good NFL player. Is he a 1037 00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 1: guy that's the best pass rusher on a team that 1038 00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,919 Speaker 1: goes deep in the playoffs? You know, we'll see Randy 1039 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,320 Speaker 1: Gregory hasn't shown anything yet that we have no idea 1040 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 1: if he's got to be. What kind of players they 1041 00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 1: did pick up Benson Mayowa, however you pronounce his name, 1042 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:05,480 Speaker 1: is a restrictive free agent from I believe the Raiders, Um. 1043 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,040 Speaker 1: I agree pass rushing is an issue. I think this 1044 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:09,719 Speaker 1: team is going to rely on what they did in 1045 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,560 Speaker 1: two thousand fourteen. Convert a bunch of third downs on offense, 1046 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 1: keep the other team off the field, and decrease the 1047 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,760 Speaker 1: exposure of their defense. A lot of pressure in that offense, 1048 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:21,360 Speaker 1: a lot of the Luckily they play in a horrible division. 1049 00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 1: The Football Outsiders, for what it's worth, I'm getting them 1050 00:53:25,239 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 1: a lot of free plugs. I just thought this was interesting. 1051 00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,520 Speaker 1: They projected the Cowboys to have nine point six wins, 1052 00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 1: which is pretty high for them. That's conservative. No one 1053 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,680 Speaker 1: else in the division above six six, So they have 1054 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,280 Speaker 1: a huge gap between Dallas and the rest of the division, 1055 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:41,239 Speaker 1: which is really I have the same time you do. 1056 00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys are the clear favorites in this division. 1057 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,400 Speaker 1: So Washington, they they win the division last year, have 1058 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:49,280 Speaker 1: a breakout season from their quarterback, they go get George 1059 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 1: Josh Norman who falls into their laps, and they're gonna 1060 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:54,360 Speaker 1: collapse and be a far worst team. Well, they're not 1061 00:53:54,360 --> 00:54:00,560 Speaker 1: gonna have a really easy schedule this time around. Neither 1062 00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,480 Speaker 1: well the rest of the division. OK. I just think 1063 00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,319 Speaker 1: the Cowboys are much better. I don't disagree in the 1064 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 1: sense that you're getting your starting quarterback and healthy Dez 1065 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,960 Speaker 1: Bryant back in the house. That's a completely different offense 1066 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:11,640 Speaker 1: than last year. Right, there's not a in a in 1067 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,840 Speaker 1: a first round running back there. There is more to 1068 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:16,640 Speaker 1: clearly be excited about with the Cowboys than any other 1069 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: team in that division. There flashy as always, so it's 1070 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 1: like there's we don't know if there's substance there, but 1071 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 1: there's it's there's reasons to be compelled by them. Are 1072 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: they gotten very good at that? Is their defensive personnel 1073 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,640 Speaker 1: any worse than it was two years ago when they 1074 00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:30,839 Speaker 1: ran away with a division because their offense is better 1075 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:33,920 Speaker 1: in my opinion, and I thought you were going to 1076 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,600 Speaker 1: go as their defensive personnel any worse than let's say 1077 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,440 Speaker 1: the Redskins, which I would say, no is the answer. 1078 00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 1: I might take the Redskins defense over them, but it's 1079 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: not a huge difference. You know, it's not going an 1080 00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: MVP award and who didn't. Unfortunately Greg he is seven 1081 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: minutes late for a meeting that he uh said he 1082 00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:59,160 Speaker 1: had to get to on time. All right, that means 1083 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:03,240 Speaker 1: we should go gotta keep Greg employed. Um, that's important 1084 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 1: the boss nominator. Now, we would never be m v 1085 00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 1: P s if Greg didn't nominate us, and for that 1086 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,600 Speaker 1: we should be eternally great. When you use those gift cards, 1087 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 1: uh wherever there for it to get like a yogurt 1088 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:15,479 Speaker 1: down the streets, you should all use our gift cards 1089 00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,560 Speaker 1: to buy Greg president. Well that's that's already one of 1090 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 1: the all time moves by Greg. What a mench. Someone 1091 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:24,640 Speaker 1: didn't spend it on you. I think you know, I 1092 00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:26,359 Speaker 1: know you know you have in that person. It only 1093 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 1: took me three years. I know way Mark had one before. 1094 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,719 Speaker 1: It caused a lot of controversy. Yeah, it was. That 1095 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,000 Speaker 1: was not worth it on any level. It was. It 1096 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,640 Speaker 1: was not one of your better management moves. Well there were, 1097 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,600 Speaker 1: there were extenuated circumstances. I'm not even gonna get into it. 1098 00:55:39,600 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: I gotta go to a meeting. Out of here. Greg's gone. 1099 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:48,719 Speaker 1: Um started the last show without Yeah, I'm leaving this show. Yeah, 1100 00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,560 Speaker 1: it's probably for the best at this point. Now, you 1101 00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 1: did remind me that it took this long to get 1102 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: one m v PEN with the company for over six years. 1103 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 1: Thanks buddy. UM. We will be back on Wednesday with 1104 00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,760 Speaker 1: another show, UM, and we'll talk about football. I assume 1105 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,520 Speaker 1: we'll talk about um our personal lives. Probably a little 1106 00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,839 Speaker 1: bit um, a little mirth will be in there. It's 1107 00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,959 Speaker 1: that kind of it's that mix that people like West 1108 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,880 Speaker 1: in the softball team. I'm sure it's gonna come up 1109 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,080 Speaker 1: as well. Oh yeah, softball team, we've been there are 1110 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,400 Speaker 1: moves happening. We can feel the momentum building. We need 1111 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:30,880 Speaker 1: to see some momentum is building. Mark, don't give up 1112 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 1: on his dad. This is Dan hands Is signing off 1113 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:37,000 Speaker 1: for the Quiet Storm, the Mailman, the Boss and Absentia 1114 00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 1: and Sully behind the glass. Thanks buddy. Until Wednesday, I 1115 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:52,840 Speaker 1: was not a good ruler skater