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Speaker 1: Terrible advice. Welcome to the Naughty but Nic Show Shooter,

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Speaker 1: and it's Friday, which means our dear friend Corey Andrew

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Speaker 1: joins us, Hey, Corey, are you there? I am here. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Happy Friday, everyone, Happy Friday. Hey Corey. I saw you

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Speaker 1: on News Nation doing some celebrity gossip and I saw

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Speaker 1: at the bottom the chiron, said Mark Loopho told me it, said,

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Speaker 1: co host of the Naughty but Nice Shows. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: was representing, honey. You know, I had to go represent

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Speaker 1: on News Nations, so it was great. We were talking

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Speaker 1: about the new show Milf Manners, very controversial. Yes, it

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Speaker 1: was fine. All this TV now if it's going to

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Speaker 1: pop and the Housewives really changed the game. After the Housewives,

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Speaker 1: you've got to do crazy stuff on too. Absolutely. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if it keeps people coming, but you've got

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Speaker 1: to pop and they're certainly doing that talking and I

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Speaker 1: thought you were great, Corey. I love this little army

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Speaker 1: of co hosts of Naughties out there spreading the world.

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Speaker 1: As a publicist, you know that for a really long time,

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Speaker 1: there is nothing better than having ambassadors for your brand.

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Speaker 1: For you, and if you think about it in life,

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Speaker 1: there's nothing better than having friends out there saying nice

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Speaker 1: things about you, and the same with the podcast. It's

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Speaker 1: growing because I have pulled in thanks to you, your friends,

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Speaker 1: your fans, marks brought in here and so the mixture

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Speaker 1: of us all together out there is really just lovely.

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Speaker 1: And I thank you, thank you, thank you. Jump into

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Speaker 1: the shoe. What time is it? My friends? We were

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Speaker 1: going to lead with Alec Baldwin, and we will get

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Speaker 1: to him because it's a really big story. However, there's

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Speaker 1: something just a little bit more juicy that's popped up,

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Speaker 1: and I just couldn't help myself. It's so scandalous. The

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Speaker 1: t J Home from Good Morning America allegedly had an

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Speaker 1: affair with a twenty four year old intern at ABC

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Speaker 1: and they had sex in his office. So this is

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Speaker 1: a new breaking story. So my sources were telling me

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Speaker 1: that t J and Amy were negotiating their futures with

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Speaker 1: An insiders and ABC tell me their photographs are still

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Speaker 1: Their picture is still up. So staffers were like, I

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Speaker 1: think they're going to survive this, and they don't really

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Speaker 1: to fire the black man and keep the world woman.

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Speaker 1: That would say in absolutely terrible. So it all looked

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Speaker 1: the rumors are they've been fired, I actually believe they're

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Speaker 1: not true. And my sources say that there is a

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Speaker 1: Then this new report broke in the Daily Mail. So,

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Speaker 1: according to one well placed source, the affair happened when

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Speaker 1: Jasmine That's the Intern was twenty four years over. It

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Speaker 1: took place in two thousand and fifteen, when he was

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Speaker 1: married to his now estranged wife. Sources say quote he

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Speaker 1: was a predator and took full advantage of his position,

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Speaker 1: and he was reckless. This was Jasmine's first job in television.

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Speaker 1: It was a big deal for her, and she was

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Speaker 1: She started having drinks with him, and then before anyone

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Speaker 1: I think that the volume around t J and his infidelities,

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Speaker 1: Other people at different networks that he's worked on said

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Speaker 1: the word in turn is not to be confused with

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Speaker 1: like an eighteen year old or seventeen year old high

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Speaker 1: And at some point ABC is going to say, we've

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Speaker 1: if in fact, the young ladies are the ones talking

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Speaker 1: to ABC. They work there, who they are, It's easy

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Speaker 1: But people did know stuff. They did know it. And

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Speaker 1: there's always been a feeling around t J that he

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Speaker 1: consenting equals, but when it comes to interns, even if

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Speaker 1: about workplaces romances. Should you be dating the boss? Are

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Speaker 1: you really dating the boss because of equality or love?

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Speaker 1: that's enough, just there. It doesn't matter what you are,

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Speaker 1: but we're having sex in your office. Come on. The

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Speaker 1: on Monday to hear your results. Take Cory Love, what

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Speaker 1: Ellen Degenerous was the first and only woman she ever

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Speaker 1: wrote that the former Ellen de Generous show host, whom

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go anyway. However, and reveals that it resulted

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