1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: I loved seeing how people reacted when somebody was singing 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: stuff like that that would give you goose bumps or 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 1: like that kind of stuff. I want to be able 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: to do that. I still don't know if I do that, 5 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: but it was just something I always wanted to do. 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 2: Cattle New Chin need. 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: A sound. 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 3: From Puturo Media. It's that you know Usa. I'm Maria 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: ino Hoosa today one of our How I Made It 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 3: segments with Omar Apollo, a rising star in the Indie 11 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 3: R and BC. Omar Apollo began making music on his own, 12 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 3: teaching himself chords from YouTube videos and honing his sound 13 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 3: in an attic in a small town in Indiana. His 14 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:10,319 Speaker 3: musical inspirations transcend borders and cultures, reflecting his experience as 15 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 3: a son of immigrants from Guaalajara, Mexico growing up deep 16 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 3: in the Midwest. The music of this twenty three year 17 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 3: old Mexican American artist courses with rich funk, sweet soul, 18 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 3: and upbeat pop, and his lyrics often flow seamlessly between 19 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 3: English and Spanish. Omar began performing music at house parties 20 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 3: and open mics in his hometown of Lake Station, Indiana. 21 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 3: Then in twenty seventeen, while working at a fast food restaurant, 22 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:43,839 Speaker 3: Omar found his first breakthrough on Spotify with the. 23 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 4: Song you Got Me. 24 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: He then began receiving invitations to play at venues in 25 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: Chicago and eventually across the country. Almost four years later, 26 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 3: Omar has amassed more than a hundred million streams on 27 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 3: Spotify and has signed a recording deal with Warner Records. 28 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 3: Before the coronavirus pandemic brought the world to a halt, 29 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: Omar had relocated to Los Angeles after wrapping up nearly 30 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 3: two years of touring throughout North America, Asia, Australia, and Europe. 31 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: When California went on lockdown, Omar decided to scrap everything 32 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 3: that he'd been working on, daring himself to turn quarantine 33 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 3: into a lab of sonic experimentation. On this episode of 34 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: How I Made It, Omar takes us to the early 35 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 3: days of making music on bowered equipment and tells us 36 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 3: how he explored everything from funk music to corridos in 37 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: order to make his debut album, Apologno. 38 00:02:53,120 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: It was up Omar Apollo and I'm an artist from Indiana. 39 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: I'm from Lake Station, Indiana, where I grew up, so 40 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: I don't need a GPS to go around anywhere. It's 41 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: kind of very small, everybody knows everybody type of thing. 42 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: The It wasn't really much of a music scene, but 43 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: I would go to little events. I just wanted to perform. 44 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't knew what you need. The first bands that 45 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: got me into music there's a band called the Internet 46 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: and they released album called Ego Death when I was 47 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: like seventeen. 48 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 4: Need for Your Thoughts and Knowledge. 49 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: I remember I just listening to the album and then 50 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: I was just like, oh, I need to get a 51 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: guitar tomorrow. So after I heard that, I just went 52 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: to the pawn shop and got a guitar. My friend 53 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: let me borrow his bass. Then my other friend and 54 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: let me borrow his interface. My first memory really of 55 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: getting started with music was in the garage. I had 56 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: a few friends who played. I was eighteen when I 57 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: started performing. After we started playing in Indiana, people were like, oh, 58 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: you could play, Like, come play over here. It was 59 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: just a hobby of some I did, but I wasn't 60 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: sure that it was gonna happen. I made you Got 61 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: Me twenty's seventeen, and I remember I was by myself 62 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: really and then I called my cousin because he lived 63 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: down the street, and I was like, Yo, you gotta 64 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: come through, fool, come listen to this song I just made. 65 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: He's like, all right, I'm coming. He flew up in 66 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: his little Monte Carlo and then I played it for him. 67 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: He was just like, bro, what Like that's insane. 68 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: Maybe there's something you know, but really say, I'm not good. 69 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:56,160 Speaker 2: I think that I really. 70 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: My friend was like, you gotta put on Spotify, and 71 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: then I didn't have any money, so he gave him 72 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 1: money to put it up and then got like playlisted 73 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,039 Speaker 1: or something. I got on like three playlists or something, 74 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: and then I woke up and I had like all 75 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: these plays and I was like whoa. I was like, 76 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: that's crazy. I was like working on McDonald's and collected 77 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: in the work that day, and then my friend told 78 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 1: me the next day. He was like, Yo, you gotta 79 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: you gotta put it another one on? You got another one? 80 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: I was like yeah, And then I had break lights 81 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: like ready to go, markers like you. 82 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 4: Cute? 83 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: Right though? So I wanted to get good at making music, 84 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: so I was just made it a bunch of songs 85 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: a month for like the whole summer, like thirty five 86 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: songs a month, and I would put them out or nothing. 87 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: None of them ever came out. It's just on this 88 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: hard drive, whether it was just an idea or like 89 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: or a full song or just a bunch of mumbles 90 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: or a bunch of harmonies. It was not until I 91 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: started like selling out shows that I was like, Okay, yeah, 92 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: this is possible. So after I got off the tour, 93 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 1: I didn't like the music I had been making, and 94 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 1: I had this process and I was just bored with 95 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: the process, and so I figured out needed to do 96 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: like a lot of different things, like try different things 97 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: in music. I had twenty five twenty seven songs or something, 98 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: and I was getting ready to put it together, you know, 99 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: release it. But then Quarantine happened, and yeah, it kind 100 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: of hit me. Made a lot of stuff I wouldn't 101 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: normally make. But I had just started using a lot 102 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: of pedals, and there was this one pedal in particular, 103 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: it's called the Mutron. 104 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 5: It's like wow, wow, wow, wow, It's like WoT won't 105 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 5: Steve you wanted to use it? Bootsy Collins use it, 106 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 5: George Clinton, everyone used it. I ordered it because I 107 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 5: was like, oh we got money, now I can I 108 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 5: can order things. Then then I woke up the next 109 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 5: morning after playing with it all night, and then like 110 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 5: made stay Back. 111 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: And obviously it's very Booty Collins inspired. Booty Collins is 112 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 1: one of the pioneers of funk music. He was the 113 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: first one to like slow it down and make this 114 00:07:55,560 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: funk music that was sexy and slow. I just kind 115 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: of said the ideas to my managements that would be 116 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: really cool for got Bootsy Collins on this, so yeah, 117 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: it would be so then I just d M him 118 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: and then then you like responded and then uh, you 119 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: heard the song and he was down. 120 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 4: Especial and I'm thinking about you all the time. 121 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I still have a lot of things 122 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: that I want to do to like satisfy myself, and 123 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: I think I had the same feelings when I was 124 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: younger too. I played with the La Philharmonic recently and 125 00:08:52,559 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: they learned this corrido called those that I made cordrido. 126 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: It's a Mexican style of music. It was just crazy 127 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: to hear, like I have the sheet music that transcribed 128 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:13,839 Speaker 1: sheet music in my studio just because it's really cool 129 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:20,079 Speaker 1: to look at you. I don't know I've never looked 130 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: at music that way, and so it was just really 131 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: interesting to see people play along to it in a 132 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:34,839 Speaker 1: very trained way. My earliest memory of a corrido was 133 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: probably my uncle's my Theo's playing it in the living 134 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: room like two in the morning, drunk, just singing. It's 135 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 1: just music that is nostalgic to me and the family. 136 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: And I'm telling the story of just my life Jesse 137 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: being from Indiana. That's talking about where I was from 138 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: and how people didn't take me serious because I wanted 139 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: to do something different. Well, then the pre chorus, I'm 140 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: just talking about getting money. Yeah, one day. 141 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 4: Last I make. 142 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: Honestly, getting money I think is always the goal now 143 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: because I never thought about it on the way up. 144 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: I never thought about money when I didn't have it. 145 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: I was just thinking about music. I love music. And 146 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: now I'm like, oh, I want to have generational wealth 147 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: because it's never it's never ran in my family. You know, 148 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: We've never had money in my family at all. And 149 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: then the second verse, I'm talking about how much I'm 150 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: making now it's dream was just this and all everyone 151 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: who is hating on me back home, and yeah, it's 152 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: kind of toxic. 153 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: Jamara Calatroya, Ma com pre Auuraa's Diamonds Sambag. You know 154 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: Dmulo Barabras can be made, don't you go? 155 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: Letsie Yagame Compre. I go back to Indiana. It just 156 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: feels different and yeah, just seeing people that you knew 157 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 1: and they know and they know how you're doing. 158 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 4: Now would choose my body? 159 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: I changed every day. I changed this morning, I had 160 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: a breakthrough this morning. I changed every day. I think, 161 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: I think that why would you stay the same? 162 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: That was R and B artist Omar Apollo. His debut album, 163 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 3: Apolonio is out on all streaming platforms now. This episode 164 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: was produced by Julia Ne Sparsa with help from Julia 165 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 3: Rocha and edited by Martha Martinez. The Latino USA team 166 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 3: includes Miguel Massias, Andrea ro Pescrusado, Julieta Martinelli, Alissa Escarce, 167 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: Gini Montalvo, Alejandra Salasad and Reinaldo Leannos Junior with help 168 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: from Raoul Perez. Our engineers are Stephanie Lebau, Julia Caruso 169 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 3: and Lia Shaw, with help from Elishuba YouTube and gabriel 170 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 3: Le Bayez. 171 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 1: Our digital editor is. 172 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 3: Luis Luna Our interns are Samantha Friedman and Carli Rubin. 173 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 3: Our theme music was composed by Zeerbinos. If you like 174 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: the music you heard on this episode, stop by Latinousa 175 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 3: dot org and check out our weekly Spotify playlist. I'm 176 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: your host and executive producer Marino Posa. 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