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That link has been penned in. 71 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 4: The chat first topic. 72 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow made huge steps in his recovery journey on 73 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 2: Wednesday by being named a full participant in Bengals team practice. 74 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,239 Speaker 2: Excuse me, this is the first time that he's gotten 75 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 2: the designation since he suffered a turf toe injury in 76 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: Week two. 77 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 4: Joe would need to. 78 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 2: Be activated by December first from the injury reserve to 79 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: have any chance to play again this season. Oh, Joe, 80 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 2: your Bengals are three and sent, Yes, sir, three and seven. Yeah, 81 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 2: only seven games to go. 82 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. 83 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: If there are scenario which you see if the if 84 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: the Bengals were to lose Sunday, Yes, sir, if there's 85 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: a scenario where you see Joe being activated, because if 86 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: he's not activated by junior me December, per Yes, that 87 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 2: means he can't I mean basically, he can't come off 88 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: and he'd be on there for the rest of the season. 89 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: Do you see a scenario where you guys lose this 90 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: game and him come off injury reserve. 91 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, I think regardless there is really no scenario 92 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: in this matter or in. 93 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,119 Speaker 4: This case, whether we win or whether we lose. 94 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow being the competitor that he is, he would 95 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: probably override any suggestions that he gets some doctors, uh, 96 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,239 Speaker 1: anyone that sits in positions of power in that uh, 97 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:47,280 Speaker 1: in that in that front office, and he's coming back 98 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: to playing whether we lose it or not. I just 99 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: knowing Joe Burrow, the type of player he is, the 100 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: type of competitor is whether we have a chance to 101 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: to get to the playoffs or he could have want 102 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: to finish the season off wrong and and and and 103 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: make some of with a statement to show that he 104 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,799 Speaker 1: can still stay upright. He can, he can still be healthy, 105 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: you know, regardless of circumstances, whether we're going to the 106 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: playoffs or not. 107 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 5: So you just you're just looking forward to them getting 108 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 5: back out there on the field. You don't, you ain't 109 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 5: really you don't really think y'all gonna make no playoffs? 110 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: Hey, Joe, Joe, Honestly, right now, I haven't really really 111 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: thought of the scenarios or the possibility of us making 112 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: the playoffs at three or seven. I think it's very 113 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: very difficult Joe. Honestly, I think it's very difficult. But 114 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: for me, I would love for Joe to come back, 115 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: not even playoff scenario, but just the finish the season 116 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: off strong. Finish the season off strong, getting you know, 117 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: get in there and do what you can. 118 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 4: Strong. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, from hold on, let 119 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 4: me finish. 120 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: I'm not. 121 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm not talking about I'm not talking about from a 122 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: team standpoint of this point, when you're three and seven. 123 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm just saying individually, all players need to finish the 124 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: season off strong from an individual standpoint, so they feel 125 00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: a little bitter about themselves going into next year, regardless 126 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: of whether we we did well or we whether we 127 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:15,679 Speaker 1: did well or we didn't. 128 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: As a teamage well, ain't no regardless, ain't no area right, regardless, 129 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: you have to use regardless, regardless. 130 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 4: I said, I said, or regardless. Yeah, y'all were terrible 131 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 4: this year. 132 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, we were terrible. Finish out on no 133 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: good note. 134 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 4: Okay, I said. 135 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: That's why I said individually, That's why the first thing 136 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: I said, even if even if we lose. 137 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 4: What we won't, which we probably won't. 138 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 2: You gone to lose, Take the ill f out, Take 139 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: the illf out. First of all, y'all was losing with Chase. 140 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: Y'all losing with Chase. Yeah, he gone, Okay, now let's 141 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: try again. 142 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,000 Speaker 1: Like I said, someone someone who has a little optimism, Joe, 143 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: I'm talking, Joe, I'm gonna talk to you. I got 144 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,119 Speaker 1: I'm a little optimistic. Ain't no telling what's gonna happen. 145 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: I know Chase is not playing this game. 146 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 4: We got eleven weeks. You know what's gonna happen, you know. 147 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: I Hey Joe, I don't I don't like I don't 148 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: like the way uncle's treat my bank. 149 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 5: Hey O, Joe, I think y'all just need to let 150 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 5: you know what. I just want to take my last bike. 151 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 4: Take the last bike, take the las, take your time talking. 152 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: I want to go ahead. Finished against some food on 153 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: my stuff because I've been hungry. I had a couple 154 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 2: of events I had to go to that I will 155 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: get my laugh, my laugh. 156 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:39,599 Speaker 1: Right now, taking time me and Joe, got me and 157 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: Joe anyway, Joe, like I was saying, listen from individ 158 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: from an individual standpoint, Joe, knowing how Burrow is, knowing 159 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: the competitor that he is, he's a liar, Hey, Joe, 160 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: he's coming back to play, Joe regard regards to how 161 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: we're doing that. 162 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 5: But sometimes you know we can get now on way. 163 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 5: Now you know the man been bogged down with and 164 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 5: you know that tod On Lingo Bro. 165 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 4: I know that, Joe. I know I Joe. I know 166 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 4: one thing. 167 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: If Joe, if Burrow ain't feeling one hundred percent, he 168 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: not taking his ass out there on that field. 169 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 5: Well then he ain't gonna play it. It ain't no 170 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:16,320 Speaker 5: way here that toad gonna be one hundred percent. 171 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: Man. 172 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 5: You listen, Yeah, let the man, Let the man heal up, 173 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 5: and then y'all get another crank at the next year. 174 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 4: If it don't happen next year with you, you gotta 175 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 4: blow that thing up. 176 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I mean I like that, Joe, but I 177 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: me me honestly, if Joe feels good and knowing knowing 178 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: how he is, he's sitting on that sideline, Joe, if 179 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: if he can go and then think about it, eighty 180 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: eighty five, eighty seven, even in ninety percent, Joe Burrow 181 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: it is better than half the goddamn league. 182 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 4: It's better than half the league out there, even horble. 183 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,319 Speaker 1: So I would like to see I would like to 184 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: see him go, honestly, just to finish it off strongest, 185 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: just so you feel good about yourself in your head. 186 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: And when in the back of your head it's like, well, god, damn, 187 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: I haven't been hurt three out of six seasons, you know, 188 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: and it ain't ain't been able to contribute to help 189 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: my team out, man ship knowing him. 190 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 4: Man, I'm finishing this, I'm finishing off. 191 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 5: Hey, look, I'm sure he probably does want to get 192 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 5: back up. I mean he's making a lot of money. 193 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, okay, but uh Ojo. 194 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 5: Sometimes man, you know you gotta get in guys, wait 195 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 5: man and just tell him, Hey, look, we understand. Yeah, 196 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 5: we know you want to play. Yeah, but you probably 197 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 5: need to situateated this season. Now we can get you 198 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 5: right going in the next season. Hey, man, you just 199 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 5: playing football just to be finishing the season and they 200 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 5: main't get hurt again. 201 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 1: Now come on now, Yeah, I mean, you're right, I'm 202 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: trying to help y'all, trying to Joe Joe, you right, 203 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you how the individual is. He's an animal, 204 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: but he an animal, right, animal? I just I just 205 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: don't see any scenario where he can go sit down. 206 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: Especially he was a full participant in practice today. He 207 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: was a full participant in practice. 208 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 4: See that thing feel like tomorrow. 209 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,439 Speaker 2: Unless Joe Burrow will come back of the combination of Miles, 210 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: Garrett and Taylor, y'all ain't going nowhere. I don't give 211 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: damn buddy, come back here. 212 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 4: And we understand that part Joe, Miles. 213 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: Garrett, and Lawrence Taylor a little big. The deon Sanders 214 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 2: array lewis in there. So one of them he's gonna. 215 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 4: Be right, I mean, neither one, neither one. 216 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: But that day you have to understand that. That's not 217 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: the part we talk about. You got to understand the 218 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: type of individual Joe is. You got to understand, Okay, 219 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: you don't. 220 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 2: Become the number one overall pick without being a competitor 221 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,479 Speaker 2: and that's but you also don't become somebody without being realistic. 222 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I understand that, Joe. I mean, have you 223 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 4: seen your defense. 224 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that man ain't thinking about none of that. That 225 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: man ain't thinking about none of that. That man is 226 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: thinking about getting on that field, getting back healthy and 227 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: trying to contribute and finish the season off on a 228 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: high note for him in the village, so he feels 229 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: better about himself going into the off season. I'm telling 230 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: you how you think, and I know it because if 231 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: he wasn't, it wouldn't be no. 232 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 4: No goddamn reason to be a god damn price of today. 233 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 4: He Joe, he was, Joe. We got something showing for you. 234 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 4: What's that? What they bringing the man? Look at? Look 235 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 4: at they're bringing him back? Joe? Is that bubble rup 236 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 4: got y'all? Why y'all disrespect him a quarterback? Now, don't know? 237 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: Hold on, hold on, well you over there laughing, he 238 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 1: bet he better than h BO next down there in 239 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: Denver right now. 240 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 4: And he ain't even and and Joe ain't even not 241 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 4: debating his skill set. 242 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 2: We're not debating how good he actually because excuse me, 243 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:40,760 Speaker 2: we know he's great. 244 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 4: We're not debating that. I know, I know, But but 245 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 4: hold on. The jokes just. 246 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: Flying and he here and the ha ha and like 247 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: like he ain't that boy? 248 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 2: Don't you don't think that fit? You just said the 249 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 2: man been hurt three of the six years. 250 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 4: I'm just speaking facts on his first year, he got hurt. 251 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 2: The next year he went through then he went to 252 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: the DIN, he went to a Super Bowl, then he 253 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 2: got his wrist hurt. 254 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 4: Now he done missed. 255 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 2: He missed the entire rest of that season, which was 256 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 2: probably about eight nine games. Now this is week twelve, 257 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 2: so he's gonna miss that bare minimum, a bare minimum 258 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 2: another ten games. 259 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: Right? 260 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 4: What the hell happened to my camera? You had like 261 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 4: you had like we put this around Brett Farr Peyton. 262 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: Come on that You talking about a guy that's been 263 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 2: He missed ten games his rookie season, if not more. 264 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: He's gonna miss ten games this season with his wrist injury. 265 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 2: He missed the probably another ten games. So he's missed 266 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: probably thirty games since he's been in the league. 267 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 4: Right, I did. I didn't need you to detail all that, 268 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 4: O Joe. You know this. They gotta be available. Yeah, yeah, listen, 269 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 4: you're right, you are available? What good? What good is that? Man? 270 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 4: I had the best feet, man, I had the best 271 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 4: feet in the NFL. Yeah. But you played every other year? Yeah? Yeah, 272 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 4: you ready, You're right? But what you played every Sunday? 273 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 4: I did? I did? I did? Hey Joe, Hey, Joe, 274 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 4: you should have seen my feet Joey's thing right here, Joe. Ah, yeah, 275 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,440 Speaker 4: I seen you cut a round too, the thing right here, 276 00:14:13,520 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 4: Joe Yeah. Hey them boy got a mind of the on? 277 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 4: Boy is it? 278 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 2: We already know what gonna happen, though Joe Man had 279 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty yards two touchdown but they lost. 280 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a line. That's a line. Now, don't do that. 281 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 4: Don't do that. Long as you're saying, long at osho 282 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 4: got he is? He was cool? Noah, Noah, I ain't Joe. 283 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 4: I'm not saying that I did every. 284 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: No, he wasn't happy about it. He just knew he was, Hey, 285 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 2: you hot. He knew I'm gonna get mine. Unfortunately, I'm 286 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 2: not in a situation where as a team we're good 287 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: enough to win more than we lose. 288 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 4: Joe, So I gotta do I gotta do my part, Joe. 289 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: My grandma always told me baby, in life, you can 290 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: only do one thing. You can control what you can control, 291 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:00,320 Speaker 1: and do your part. So Joe, I did my part. Actually, 292 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: as a team, I can't control the other ten people. 293 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: I can't control the eleven people that's on defense. But 294 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: I know what I can't control. I control me. I 295 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: can control them feet. They had a mine of their own. Hey, Joe, 296 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm the only receiver. I'm the only receiver in the 297 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: history of the game. They didn't pay me to play receiver, Joe. 298 00:15:21,360 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: They paid me for my feet alone. I'm just saying. 299 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: I'm just being honest to you. It's in my contract. 300 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: If you look, I show you a copy of contract. 301 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: It states we are paying him individually on what he's 302 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: able to do with his feet. 303 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 4: That's what they pay me. 304 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 5: So you said. So, you're saying when the dB lined 305 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 5: up in front of you, he had no chance. 306 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 4: Let prefer who you man. The devil is a lot, Joe. 307 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 4: I ain't play that up there. 308 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: You get a don't ever get too close to me 309 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: when we would have a conversation because I'm gonna talk 310 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: to you all the way. 311 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 4: Through the route. Huh. Yeah, Man, I ain't, Joe. I 312 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 4: ain't playing no game. Joe. 313 00:15:56,880 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: Hey, word age, Joe. He was he was in this 314 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 2: he was in this band. O. Joe can saying really 315 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 2: really good. But they ain't have no number one hits 316 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 2: because they wouldn't let him sing lead. So if they 317 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 2: let him saying lead, or they had more people like 318 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 2: oh Joe in the band, they would have been really, 319 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: really good. So in other words, he really needed to 320 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 2: play an individual sport where he just allowed himself, because 321 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: when you play football, you really gotta rely on the 322 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: ten guys on offense, the eleven guys on defense, and 323 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 2: the eleven on guy that they tried out there every 324 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: time on special team. Oh Joe did his thing, but 325 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 2: like he said, he can only do. He couldn't tackle nobody. 326 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 2: He couldn't get no picks, couldn't sack the quarterback. Hey, Joe, 327 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: we had we had then they didn't get They got 328 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 2: really good once they got they got caught. 329 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 4: Well, Kitna wasn't bad. 330 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: Kidner threw for four thousand, Kiddam wasn't no bad quarterback, 331 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: but they was bad enough that they got the They 332 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 2: gotta ended up getting Carson Palmer with the number one 333 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: overall pick, and then once Carson got in there, they 334 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 2: kind of took off from there. 335 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, hey, Joey were good man. We listen, we had 336 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: we had some. We had some up some down. 337 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 2: Hold on let that look, I don't get I'm pat 338 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 2: you on the back now, Yeah I was pat you 339 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 2: on the back. I wasn't trying to be dust at 340 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 2: your clothes. You know what I'm saying, Joe, he wanted 341 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 2: me to be dust out of clothes. Now, damn, I 342 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: appreciate it. Just leave it at that, man O, Joe 343 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 2: was really good. Oh Joe did. 344 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 4: All what nice? Now? You know I was a little 345 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 4: something now, a little something to watch that? 346 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, hey Joe saying, you know, he Joe, I could 347 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: fill up a stadium by myself. 348 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 4: Joe, I was like, you you gonna put on his 349 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 4: shoulder now, Oh yeah, you're gonna get that. 350 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: You're gonna get that when I was playing home a way, 351 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: I'm gonna for your stadium up. 352 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:36,639 Speaker 4: See that's where I need to see. I need to be. 353 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: I need to be a couple of years, a couple 354 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 2: of years younger, because he'd been talking to him on 355 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 2: the sideline, talked it right out of the game. 356 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 4: How you gonna take my script and try to use 357 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 4: it on me? Oh Joe, you do realize I was 358 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 4: talking for you was born? But do you know where 359 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 4: I'm from? Do you know where I'm from? 360 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: Do you understand we start in pee wee pee wee optimists? 361 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 4: That talking started at four years old. 362 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: You wasn't doing that when you was fo you, when 363 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: you was in four, you was out there in the country, 364 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:10,680 Speaker 1: you know, picking watermelon. 365 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 4: You weren't talking like this. I came out to womb talking. Yea, 366 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 4: this is what I do. 367 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: Hey, Joe, I'm telling Joe the right environment, boy, I said, 368 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,120 Speaker 1: talking right out of his game. 369 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 5: Joe, I'm saying you ain't never played against each other. 370 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, hey Joe, Joe, he was younger than me. Hey, 371 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 4: don't matter, Joe. I spanked him when we played him. 372 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 4: Every time Joe I showed up to the party, brock 373 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 4: again that I was on Joe, you was on, you 374 00:18:41,359 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 4: was on the team. 375 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,959 Speaker 2: What you're talking about, Joe, we already say you had 376 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 2: thirty something yards, Ojoe. 377 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 4: That's all. That's what you mean, That's all? Yeah, I mean, 378 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 4: because I I'm definitely saying I'm really not a thirty 379 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 4: yard receiving the. 380 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 2: Fact that I was a thirty when you and when 381 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 2: you scored against the Broncos, Joe, I mean, oh, Joe, 382 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 2: I was already out the game, the game was over. 383 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 4: WHOA, do you know you're not finna do that? 384 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: Oh no, the devil is alive because you've been out 385 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 1: the game now for twenty some years and every time 386 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 1: the Broncon play. 387 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 2: At I was when the game that you played when 388 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 2: I was with the Broncos and the game you scored on, 389 00:19:19,080 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 2: you scored with like twenty seconds the game was over. 390 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 4: I was on the bellis well. 391 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: Hold on, wait a minute, Joe, A un, Joe, I 392 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: think UNK might God amnesia, because if I if I 393 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:35,159 Speaker 1: recall in two thousand and five against the Denver Broncos 394 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: Monday Night football, but I went crazy. If I'm not mistaken, 395 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 1: I retired. 396 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 4: I was in the boot. I was in I was 397 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 4: sitting at a desk. 398 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: What does that have to do. You just said I 399 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 1: only scored against the Broncos decades. You just said I 400 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,199 Speaker 1: only scored in the Broncos in the last thirty seconds. 401 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 4: That's not what I recall. No, no, no, I said when 402 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 4: I was playing Shannon. 403 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, with Shannon, I don't know what what you 404 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 2: did after I left. Yeah, but I'm saying I do 405 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 2: know you scored with like thirty five forty seconds left 406 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 2: in the ball game. 407 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 4: I done got my shoes off. I got on flip flops. 408 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, it sounds I got on saund I got 409 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 2: on shower shoes on the sideline. 410 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 4: I done cut my tape off and everything, and you 411 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 4: still in there. 412 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 2: Playing when you scored it. At the end, you were 413 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 2: still look it up, Hey, Joe looking up. I think 414 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 2: it was either two thousand and two, two thousand and three. 415 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 4: Joe. Look, Joe, I ain't gonna lie tell you. 416 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 2: I remember, like yesterday, he's calling, we don't beat the 417 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 2: were beating the brakes. 418 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 4: Off them, and then he got he's gonna try to celebrate. 419 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 1: I never a Joe. One thing I never do. I 420 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: was always self aware. I was always pull it up. 421 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,199 Speaker 1: You heard me, Joe, you. 422 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 2: Were self aware with that one, because I don't know 423 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: why why I'm telling you know why you scored a 424 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 2: touchdown and want to celebrate. 425 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 4: I'm telling you how it was. 426 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 1: I never do that a Joe unless we unless we're 427 00:20:56,359 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: scoring first or I'm scoring to tie. I never celebrate 428 00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: if it was scoring we were losing. Never never get that. 429 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: That's to me, that's a lack of self awareness. And 430 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: to me and myself, I look crazy because why the 431 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: hell am I celebrating? Is none to celebrate for, and 432 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: we're not winning the game or actually tying the game. 433 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: So that's something always kept. 434 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: You wuldn't win the game with me. But you said, well, 435 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 2: whether oh three oh two. I'm trying to think it 436 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 2: might have been oh two. 437 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 4: Nah oh two. I gave y'all that work. That's all 438 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 4: I know. Oh three oh oh oh? Get it right, ass, 439 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 4: pull up the receipts? 440 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 2: Ass, when did all up? When did he score that touchdown? Did? 441 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 4: When did he score that touchdown? 442 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 3: Yeah? 443 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hey, hey Joe, you see you see ass put 444 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: out the receipt Joe boy, that business. 445 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 2: But see what Hollo, this care was thirty to ten. 446 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: He o, this call was thirty to three. Kill the calories. 447 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 2: He did all that hard work. He got some cardio 448 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 2: in the first four and a half, three and a 449 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 2: half points. 450 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: I didn't you just heard say I would give you 451 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: y'all that work. You just heard ask give y'all that work. 452 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 2: You caught a twenty three yard touchdown. The score was 453 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 2: thirty to three. We just took our starts out. We 454 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: ain't getting nobody. 455 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: No, the starts run out of the game. They weren't out 456 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: the game because which you're not gonna do. You're not 457 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: gonna put no backups on me, not no, no, you're 458 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: not no you're not I think the person, if I'm 459 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: not mistaken, that was coming me. 460 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,360 Speaker 4: He wore twenty four. He wore twenty four. That would 461 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 4: be the whole game. Who del to O'Neill? Nah no, no. 462 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 2: Champ wasn't there when I was there, old choke, Okay 463 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: him after I was gone? 464 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 4: Oh who was it? Who was it? It was Delta O'Neill. 465 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 4: Well he got that work too. Who ended up playing 466 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,200 Speaker 4: with you in Cincinnati. 467 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: For and he got that work. Anybody with a two 468 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: and they number got that work for years. 469 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 4: Straight, except Revous, except Reeves. 470 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 2: I'm gona give this credit, I think if I'm not mistaken. 471 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 4: Who who you giving credit to? Oh Reves? That's it. 472 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 4: That's it. And then listen, hey, Joe, No, no, no, no, no, no, 473 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 4: we didn't have Reavers. No I no, no, I'm just 474 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 4: saying I was telling Joe. 475 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 1: Anybody with a two as their first number got that 476 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: work for eleven twelve years straight. 477 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,920 Speaker 4: Joe, I seen Revers. 478 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: Oh man, it was like a bad relationship that never 479 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: turned out right, you hear me? 480 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 4: And how you get the Reavers out and couldn't get 481 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 4: off there? Huh? 482 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 2: Let me find out you was Gilligan I Hey, Joe, 483 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 2: I got Joe coming to rescue Gilligan. 484 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: Joe, I got stuff, Joe. I ain't have a passport 485 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 1: here in defense like that, Joe got me. Listen, hey Joe. 486 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 4: He was nice. Joe, he was he was he was nice, 487 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 4: he were nice. He was nice. 488 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna see him like I taugh. I talked, 489 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 1: I talked Cray, I talked cash ship. But one thing 490 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do well when it comes defense, I'm gonna 491 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 1: get up with it. 492 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 4: Give him his credit. And every time I see him, 493 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 4: I give him fly. That year he had a year. 494 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: Man, Oh Joe. Everybody got it Joe. That two thousand 495 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: and nine seasons Joe. 496 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 3: That was. 497 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 4: That was an historic run that will never be repeated, 498 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 4: never be Every week he traveled with number one. I 499 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 4: don't care a coach. I got it. Don't even worry 500 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 4: about this. And nobody, nobody will getting a hunted a 501 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 4: hunt shut down, shut down everybody. 502 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: Johnson, Steve Smith, Andre Johns, nobody got over with fifty boy. 503 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: There's one person. There's one person who consistently was able 504 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: to give reasons that give Reeves that business and give 505 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: him problems. And that was Stevie Johnson, STEVEE. Johnson, Yeah, 506 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: played played in Buffalo. 507 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 4: Hey, Joe. 508 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: Stevie was about six four and moved like he was 509 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: five feet tall. 510 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 4: I mean as far his ladder movement and is quick. 511 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 4: You had to be quick to give him problems. 512 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 2: You couldn't be a big receiver and be physical with 513 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 2: him because his then you had to be you had 514 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: to be twitchy. 515 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. 516 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: If you weren't twitchy, right, you got you had hell 517 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 2: on your hands if you weren't twitchy. The Browns quarterbacks, Wow, 518 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 2: the Browns quarterbacks are and seventeen and their first career 519 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 2: starts since the team rejoined the NFL. It just goes 520 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 2: back to nineteen ninety nine. Let that sink in. A 521 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 2: quarterback has never won their first NFL start in Cleveland 522 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: going back to nineteen ninety nine. 523 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 4: So basically that's twenty seven years and that's that's crazy work. 524 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 2: Look at look at the names from Tim Couch to 525 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 2: Spurgeon Win, Tom Brady still mad about that, Spurson Win, 526 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: Luke McCown, Charlie Fried, Derek Anderson, Brady, Quinn, Cope, McCoy, Brandon, Whedon, 527 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 2: fad Lewis, Johnny Manzaiah Connorshaw, Cody Kessler, Deshaun Kaiser, Kevin Hogan, 528 00:25:56,520 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield, Drrian Thompson, Robinson, and Gabriel. 529 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 4: Hey, that's crazy ooe. 530 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 1: I think that's why maybe just maybe they just have 531 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: bad luck in general, maybe in just organizational bad luck 532 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: because to not have had a quarterback and to have 533 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: I mean, they've had some success. 534 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 4: But it was short lived. 535 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: It would short lived that they're still in search of 536 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: one that they can call their franchise quarterback. And that's 537 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 1: why they were so so eager to do what they 538 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: did with Deshaun Watson because look at what they had 539 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: to deal with for so long. 540 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 4: This is what they had to deal with for so long. 541 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 4: That's why they were willing to throw whatever it. 542 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: Was at Deshaun Watson because you understood the success that 543 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: he had before. You know, those issues of roles, and 544 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 1: even after their roles, we still got a problems. We 545 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: know what we're getting. 546 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: You see the problem with Ojo and O Joe. Look 547 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 2: at look at the years ninety nine they had. They 548 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 2: had had a starter two thousand, they had a different starter, four, 549 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 2: a different starter, five, a different starter, six, a different 550 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 2: start oh eight, a different. 551 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 4: You see a real current theme. Moo, Joe. Yeah, man, Joe, 552 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,880 Speaker 4: you see the real current theme. Yeah, no, continuity, you ain't. 553 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,640 Speaker 2: You finna keep trotting quarterbacks out there year after year 554 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:12,600 Speaker 2: and thank you gonna win. 555 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 4: Look at that. 556 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 2: Think about a twelve different quarterback, fourteen different quarterback, fourteen 557 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 2: different quarterback I mean somebody in the same season. Cody 558 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: Cassel seventeen, Deshaun Casser seventeen, Kevin Hogan eighteen, Baker Mayfield. 559 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 4: Also not crazy. 560 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: And you know what else too, Joe and uncle, not 561 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: only different quarterbacks, different head coaches, different officer coordinators, different plays, 562 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: having to continue to learn something new with learning new 563 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: system and not getting like Ung said, any continuity. 564 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 4: You know, as an offense, this is what happens. This 565 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 4: is what happens. 566 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: It's always something new, so no one's ever to get acclimated. 567 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 4: And comfortable to one thing. And this is what it 568 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,400 Speaker 4: will always look like. Turmoil. 569 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 5: Hey, hey, I agree. You can't cheet chemistry continuity, man, 570 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 5: you can't cheat that. You know what I mean if 571 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 5: you're coming in every year with a different quarterback or 572 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 5: a different oc, a different head coach, I. 573 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:08,359 Speaker 4: Mean, different system. 574 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's it's a different system, so it's hard 575 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 5: to catch rhythm and time and you know that that 576 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 5: stuff takes a while. But I can see why it 577 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 5: ain't no, ain't no quarterback, wan no won no game one. 578 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 4: That's crazy. 579 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I know one thing, Schauder, he gets a 580 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: chance to start. 581 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 4: This is the opportunity he's been waiting on. You know, 582 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 4: there's no there's no more the better team to start against. 583 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah. 584 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 1: Listen, you have a chance to make history. You have 585 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: a chance to make history and and and change the narrative, 586 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 1: you know. And if things go well, yeah, it's gonna 587 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: be good. If things don't go well, we're gonna let 588 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,000 Speaker 1: it be known. We're gonna especially me. I've gotten really 589 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: good at this, Uncle Joe. I've gotten really good at being. 590 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,920 Speaker 4: Critical when things, when people, when people aren't playing. 591 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you gotta, we gotta, we gotta talk about 592 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: what we see. 593 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 594 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not sugar coat ship. 595 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: Well, if you go out there, if you go out 596 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: there and shut it up, you know, all excuses are 597 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: out the window. You had a week to prepare, you 598 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: had a week to get acclimated with the. 599 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 2: Offense, and you got and you're playing against the Raiders. 600 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 2: Damn yeah, just block ninety eight. If y'all make a mistake, 601 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 2: block ninety eight. 602 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 4: Hey, matter of fact, you can. You can double shit. 603 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 4: You can scheme him all game. 604 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: You can scheme away to stop ninety eight all game, 605 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 1: chipp him, double him. Do whatever you need to do, 606 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: the gifts you do your time to be able to 607 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,040 Speaker 1: do what he does best. 608 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 4: Throw the ball. Shouldn't be no goddamn excuses. 609 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 5: Because boy, they threw him in against him, the Raiders them, 610 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 5: boy fighting for their lives over there. Well, I think 611 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 5: the thing is then, plus he gets an opportunity. I 612 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 5: think the biggest thing joean O Joe. He gives an 613 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 5: opportunity to work with those guys, so he'll understand how 614 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 5: they get in and out of breaks. He'll understand, you know, 615 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 5: the tempo and the speed in which they run their rots, 616 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 5: because that's something that you can't You need to be 617 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 5: in there to see. Because one guy he might take 618 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 5: a while, he might not get his head around. Ocho 619 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 5: was a guy that got his head around real quick. 620 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 5: So you know, a, I could put this ball out 621 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 5: before he come out of his break. I know it 622 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 5: soon Ocho snapping his head around. 623 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 4: Other guy. 624 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 2: He's like, bro, the ball will hit you inside your 625 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 2: damn head and you don't get your head around. Now, 626 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: you gotta get in and out of those breaks. And 627 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 2: I thought he did threw the ball with some time. 628 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 2: And yeah, he missed some throws. There's a couple of 629 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 2: shallow crosses that he probably should have took. But he's 630 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 2: a guy that wants to push the ball down the field. 631 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 2: Their problem was they were unwilling to take chances. Gabriel 632 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 2: was unwilling to take chances and push the ball down 633 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 2: the field. It's hard for you to methodically three yards here, 634 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: two yards there, five yards here, five yards, one yard. 635 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 2: It's hard to methodically go down the field and win 636 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: games without at some point in time, taking a chance 637 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 2: to put the ball down the field. It's just hard 638 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 2: to just do that every single down in and down out. 639 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 2: They got to have some consistency. Obviously, they can't fall 640 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 2: behind and take the new and take the running game 641 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 2: completely away. But as long as they can keep the game, 642 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 2: I'm able to run some I can play action off 643 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 2: of that Ojo. Give him some stuff where I get 644 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 2: down flat. Hey, I get a flat route, I get 645 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 2: an over route. I get a comeback. You'll give him 646 00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 2: stuff like that. Stuff that is gonna allow him to 647 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 2: get the ball out of out of his hands real 648 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: quick at times. 649 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 4: And there are other times that you're gonna have. 650 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 2: To call plays specifically so he can push the ball 651 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 2: down the field right, And I think they'll they'll have 652 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 2: some success. Look what's it called, might might have another 653 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: four or five sack game. Miles Miles Garrett, Miles Garrett. 654 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,280 Speaker 2: That offensive line and you see the offensive line, you 655 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 2: see what the Cowboys do. The Cowboys ain't got two 656 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: players combined that as good as Miles Garrett. 657 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 4: Let alone one. Yeah, you're right, and he. 658 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 2: Ate so I mean, uh, Quinny Williams had a sack 659 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 2: of the half. 660 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 4: Oh, Diggie Zooa had two. I meanbody getting it on 661 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:53,560 Speaker 4: the action the magic Hey, you know what, And if 662 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 4: you think about it, as good as the defense is, 663 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 4: this just might be the game. 664 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,520 Speaker 1: Just be the game where that where that that uh 665 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: oh and seventeen losing street for quarterbacks starting and the 666 00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: first time it might be snapped. There's a good chance 667 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: to be if he protects the ball and knowing knowing 668 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: the defense, the defense gonna get the ball back for 669 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: him many of times on Sunday, it's a good chance. 670 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 2: Hey, hey, defense, the defense should create some great field 671 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: position for it. Yes, because Geno is primed Geno. Lately, 672 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 2: Geno's really high up on turning the ball over. And 673 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's leading the league in intercession, 674 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 2: but he damn close. 675 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 4: Put it like this. 676 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 2: I don't know if he's leading the room about Joe, 677 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 2: but he at the table where the guy that's leading 678 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 2: an interception, Gino at the table having a conversation with it. 679 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 2: You know I'm right behind you. I'm probably gonna tie 680 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: you up this week. So don't get too comfortable hell 681 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 2: in that lead. Yeah, should George Schaudor just needs to 682 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 2: beat your door. Like I said, get the ball out 683 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: of your hands and don't take listen, shudure. I understand, 684 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 2: like you know, you're looking to make the big play, 685 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 2: but it's okay to throw the ball out of bounds. 686 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 2: You're not gonna outrun. You weren't blessed with your dad's speed, 687 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 2: and he weren't, so that bellying back. You're not gonna 688 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,239 Speaker 2: outrun these d ends. You're not. You're not all you're 689 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 2: gonna do if you're a field goal range. You're gonna 690 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 2: take your team out of field goal range. Make it manageable. 691 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 2: Let it if you take a sack, take a sack 692 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,320 Speaker 2: on second down, don't, Joe, Now you put yourself further 693 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 2: behind the sticks on third downs. 694 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 4: They need to stay in front of the sticks. 695 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 2: And that's the thing that you want like young quarterbacks, Joe, 696 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 2: you want them to stay in front of the sticks. 697 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 2: You wanted second and five, second and six, you wanted 698 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 2: third and one to three, thirdy at the bare maximum, 699 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 2: third and five, you start getting third, eight to ten, 700 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 2: twelve thirteen. 701 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 4: You asking for trouble, Yeah, asking for tru I believe 702 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 4: in man. I think he's gonna do. 703 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 5: I think he's gonna do pretty well this weekend, considering, 704 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 5: you know, with him having a week with the ones, right, 705 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 5: the number ones, and he hadn't done that all. Yeah, 706 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 5: And I think he just he just a young confident dude. 707 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 4: Bro. 708 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 5: I feel like he knows this is his moment, and 709 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,760 Speaker 5: I feel like you're gonna step up and shine. 710 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 4: Yeah. 711 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, he waited, Uh, he waited a long time, what 712 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 2: twelve weeks to get his opportunity. It didn't seem like 713 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,439 Speaker 2: it was gonna come. Yeah, but you know, hey, now 714 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 2: the opportunity is here. 715 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 4: Yeah. 716 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 2: My brother said, hey, man, I ain't get no run man, 717 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: I ain't get it. Hey, Johnnyl We're gonna call your 718 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 2: number now. Yeah, just make sure what he called your number? 719 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 2: You picked the phone up? 720 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 4: You ready, you go? You ready? You go? 721 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 2: Okay. It took him twelve weeks for him to call 722 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: his line, call his number. She door, answer the phone. Yeah, 723 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 2: answer the phone. 724 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,479 Speaker 4: That's gonna be a good one. Uh. The door spoke 725 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 4: about getting first team reps. 726 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,880 Speaker 2: I'm truly excited for that, knowing that I have a 727 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 2: piece of the offense to say so, and how things 728 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 2: fit my eye in place, and the players exactly where 729 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: they need to be, seeing how that come in and 730 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 2: out of route, seeing the structure of the old lineman, 731 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 2: seeing their set, just having a feeling. I'm more of 732 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 2: a field type of a person. So that's how I learned. 733 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 2: That's how I do everything. I'm not just a I'm 734 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,279 Speaker 2: gonna watch it, it's just going to happen. No, I 735 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 2: gotta be out there feeling. I gotta move around. I 736 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 2: like so many details that it takes for me to 737 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 2: feel my best and play my best. I'm doing everything 738 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 2: in my power, and this team's doing everything in their 739 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 2: power to help me get prepared. Yeah, oh yo, yeah, 740 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,440 Speaker 2: what you think the stands, what you think is stant's 741 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 2: gonna be. 742 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 4: You know what, I don't want to say. I don't 743 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 4: want to jinx it. I don't want to drink it. 744 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 4: I just don't want to Yeah, I don't want to 745 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:41,800 Speaker 4: jink it. 746 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,760 Speaker 1: I just know that Sisfanski understands what your door strengths 747 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: are gonna be. He's gonna he's gonna understand what Shador 748 00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: does well. So the game plan going to that game 749 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: is going to be dedicated and geared towards what he's 750 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: able to do well. For one, that's getting the ball 751 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: out of the goddamn field, having a healthy balance of 752 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 1: being able to run the ball, so play action works 753 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: as well when they do want to throw, and make 754 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: sure they do. They cannot, under any circumstances, be one dimensional. 755 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: They can't be one dimensional. So a healthy balance of 756 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: the run and healthy balance of the past, and once 757 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,600 Speaker 1: that young bull get in the rhythm and get any 758 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: kind of confidence. 759 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 5: Joe Man, I think I think that comes with the 760 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 5: prep you know, throughout the week, you know, especially with 761 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,680 Speaker 5: the ones getting that getting that under your belt. That's 762 00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,919 Speaker 5: gonna create a lot of confidence for the young boy man, 763 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 5: you know, going into the game. And I think that's 764 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 5: gonna help them unk Ojo. 765 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 4: Yeah. 766 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: And the play call, the play call is gonna look 767 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: completely different because you got a quarterback that can do 768 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 1: something different than ye look completely different. 769 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh Joe, you remember, Joe, you remember your first start? 770 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,600 Speaker 4: Oh Joe, what you remember about your first start? 771 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:50,399 Speaker 3: Uh? 772 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,960 Speaker 1: San Diego Chargers, Uh, San Diego Chargers in in San 773 00:36:55,000 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: Diego obviously when they had the baseball field, Rodney had 774 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: Roger Yeah, yep, Rodney Harrison junior se Ryan McNeill who 775 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: went to the w went to U M played defensive back. 776 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,279 Speaker 4: The YEP score. 777 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: I scored my first touchdown on Ryan McNeill in the 778 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: corner of the end zone and the scar is still 779 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: there because I landed on the on I don't I 780 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: don't know if it was third base a home plate, and. 781 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 4: Skinned up the infield. 782 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, the infield and skinned up my whole My whole 783 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 1: arm is still there. It's still that's that's how deep. 784 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: That's how deep that cherry was. Yeah, that was that 785 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: was dope. That was my first That was my first start. 786 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 4: Joe, you remember your first start. 787 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, my first start was obviously it was my rookie year. 788 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 5: It was second game of the season. I was playing 789 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 5: behind Eric Williams, who was the small four for the 790 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 5: Boss themselves at the time. Well, he had he entered 791 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 5: his knee in the first game. So second game of the season, 792 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 5: coaches like, we're gonna start you at the two. It 793 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 5: was against the Milwaukee Bucks with Ray Allen, Sam Cassell, 794 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 5: big dog. Oh man, I came out there ahead of time. Man, 795 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 5: I put up about twenty three Okay, yeah, young rookie. 796 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 5: I wasn't but twenty years old out there. 797 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: Man. 798 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,040 Speaker 4: After they getting to it, you're man, you dropped little 799 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 4: twenty for the little little either twenty piece on them. 800 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 5: What hey, look see are you need, especially when you're 801 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:22,439 Speaker 5: young like that, is to see those type of performances 802 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 5: just to let you know, Okay, oh yeah, I'm right here. 803 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 4: I can do this. Oh yeah. And next thing, you know, boy, 804 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 4: you be putting on the show for real. I like it. Man. 805 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 2: I just kept saying, man, man, they need to put 806 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 2: me in. They need to put me. I just say, oh, Joe, man, 807 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 2: he put me in. I can make some plays. I 808 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,920 Speaker 2: can make some plays. Yeah, lord, bah, you're getting ready 809 00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 2: to play the Chiefs. We get ready to play the Chiefs. 810 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,400 Speaker 2: You Hey, the Chiefs got Aba Lewis, they got Kevin Ross, 811 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,040 Speaker 2: they got Darn Cherry, they got Martin Baylor's. They got 812 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 2: Neil Smith, Derrick Thomas, Damn Big Joe Phillips. Oh man, 813 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 2: they got Pursy Snow, Dann Salamore, Oh Joe. I say, 814 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 2: I said, put me in, not against them. 815 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:16,439 Speaker 4: Back, that ain't them. 816 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 2: They got a number one, they got like the number one, 817 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 2: number two defensive. So I'm like, yeah, we're gonna we're 818 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 2: gonna put you. We're gonna we're gonna start you, and 819 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 2: we're gonna put you in. I said, okay, I said, 820 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 2: so you know. I'm like, so what I'm gonna do? 821 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 2: So they say, hey, I want you to line up 822 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 2: outside and we get into the we get into the 823 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 2: like five of in inside, the five of the inside, 824 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 2: We're gonna throw you a fade. I'm like, Adam Lewis 825 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 2: went to the Pro Bowl, Kevin Ross went to the 826 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:51,399 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl. So you mean to tell me, y'all gonna 827 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 2: put a rookie in and say go run a fade? 828 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 4: On one of them. 829 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, just jump up on the top of it. Y'all 830 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,560 Speaker 2: said that, like that's easy, Like, yeah, hold on, I 831 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,200 Speaker 2: ain't no better. I was like, oh, oh, Joe, so 832 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 2: I hey, I told her brother, but you boy gonna 833 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 2: get the game. 834 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:07,879 Speaker 4: They gotta play for you. Boy. 835 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 2: Hey, they say jump ball, drop jump ball. You know 836 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:18,640 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Joe. Yeah, okay, Joe, I get out there. 837 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 2: They call it rock because he he was compact, but 838 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 2: he was strong. He got his hands on you. You 839 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 2: call him getting nothing. But anyway, they didn't They didn't 840 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,720 Speaker 2: expect me to shake him like I did. Yeah, because 841 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 2: they thought it was gonna be physical, and so just 842 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 2: throw a jump ball, Joe, how about I beat him 843 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:38,719 Speaker 2: off the ball clean? 844 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 4: I said, Okay, he gonna live on the top. I 845 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,239 Speaker 4: would cared that that I got him. 846 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he back showed it. Oh Joe, So I really 847 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 2: had to jump up over the top of up to 848 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:55,560 Speaker 2: get it. I said, you get it, I got it it. 849 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 3: I caught it here. 850 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,600 Speaker 2: Hey, Hey, I walk into the Oh Joe, Joe, I'm 851 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 2: walk into the line. I said, Lord, if you help 852 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:06,960 Speaker 2: me catch this ball, you ain't gonna let me catch 853 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 2: no more. 854 00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 4: My whole career. I don't make problem. Hey he listen, hey, hey, 855 00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 4: because ain't nothing. 856 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:17,840 Speaker 2: I caught it on. 857 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 4: I caught it on. I caught it on, yoe. 858 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 2: And from that that gave me the confidence because I 859 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 2: beat the pro bowler for my very first touchdown. So 860 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 2: that gave me the confidence that I belonged. And I'm like, 861 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 2: and I remember getting back and I remember going to 862 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 2: the side because everybody, everybody came and like, man, make good. 863 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 4: Job good, that's what it makes a play and seven 864 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 4: John Toba said, see, that's like you you can do that. 865 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:49,759 Speaker 4: I can do that. Yeah, I can do that. Yeah, 866 00:41:49,840 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 4: that thing out. I don't know why y'all surprised. I 867 00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:01,560 Speaker 4: tried to play. Yeah. 868 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 2: Oh yo, hey, I was so good as hey, get 869 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 2: in there for they throw me a short cross, got 870 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 2: hit me in the back. 871 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 4: I fumbled it. I don't. I know, I can't have 872 00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,080 Speaker 4: no prosperity. I don't. 873 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 2: But then they put me back here. They put me 874 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 2: back here and say, you just got to hold on 875 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 2: to the ball. They uh, it's gonna happen quick. Oh yo, 876 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,719 Speaker 2: I run now, I run a gold ball against cover two. 877 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:32,640 Speaker 4: Man. 878 00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,920 Speaker 2: I'm talking about like soon as the ball hit my hands, 879 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,680 Speaker 2: hit me in the back. I held on to it though, Okay, 880 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,640 Speaker 2: I held on to it though Joe had the ball 881 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 2: and through it. Yeah. That was That was like, man, 882 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 2: I really, I really And come to find out, I 883 00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 2: go back and listen to the the TV version of 884 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 2: it and they and uh, the the announcments said coach Rees, 885 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 2: is really how this kid think? 886 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:06,360 Speaker 4: This kid has a lot of potential. Yeah, oh I 887 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 4: got potential. Yeah yeah, yeah, Okay. 888 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,440 Speaker 1: One thing, hey, Joe, I mean Joe and uncle and 889 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: those in the chat that have played sports. One thing 890 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,279 Speaker 1: about it, when you're not sure yourself, you know, and 891 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: even if you are confident, and you go out there 892 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:25,520 Speaker 1: and you perform well and whatever it is that you do, whatever, 893 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: whatever your respective craft may be, and you you make 894 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,239 Speaker 1: a play or you do something good, and then you 895 00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: you do it again and you start to build that confidence. 896 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 4: Once you got confidence, it's a rap. 897 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:39,840 Speaker 1: It's a rap in that point on, and you just 898 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: stack them one on top of another, and as some 899 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: at some point it just becomes it becomes natural, it 900 00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: becomes consistent. 901 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, hey, look as a rookie, man, you play 902 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 5: so hard, bro, I'm talking about it so hard. Because listen, 903 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 5: I just remember being out there on the court thinking like, man, 904 00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 5: I'm out here with playing against Michael You and Tracy 905 00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 5: McGrady and start I'm playing with Antoine Walker, Paul Pierce. 906 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 5: Like I remember being in so much of awe that 907 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,239 Speaker 5: I was like, I'm telling y'all, bro, I couldn't really 908 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 5: sleep as a rookie, like I used to be so 909 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,160 Speaker 5: geek for the moment, like I couldn't wait. 910 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 4: I couldn't wait. 911 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 5: So you just wanted to play hardest crap because I 912 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 5: never wanted coach to have a reason to take me 913 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 5: out the game. 914 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,320 Speaker 4: I don't care what it was. 915 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 5: I was out there playing hard as I don't know it, 916 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,200 Speaker 5: trying to get as many deflections as I can't hands. 917 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 4: Anyway, that's funny, hey. 918 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,520 Speaker 2: It's just like when you see man. I remember the 919 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,719 Speaker 2: first time we played in Denver was a preseason game. 920 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 2: We played the forty nine ers O Montana, Steve Young. 921 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 4: Jerr Rice Oh, Roger, Craig John, all them. Just I 922 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 4: was like, damn, I'm really on the field. I really 923 00:44:50,200 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 4: be Damn, Jerry, I'm looking at Jared like, yeah, yo, 924 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:01,799 Speaker 4: that's right A lot. 925 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:07,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I caught a touchdown on in the preseason, oh Joe, 926 00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 2: and then hit the ham on them. 927 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, hold on, you were dancing in the preseason. 928 00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 2: And the boy look here, I'm from an AGBCU. I 929 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 2: just call a touchdown on the depending Super Bowl chair. 930 00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:28,640 Speaker 4: Man I was. I would Floyd crazy, Yeah, man, I was, Man, 931 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:28,840 Speaker 4: I was. 932 00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 2: And it was televised. It was a Monday night game. 933 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,440 Speaker 2: It was televised, old joke. Oh they saw me. Everybody 934 00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:37,080 Speaker 2: in Savannah State, they why know they watching my hometown 935 00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 2: gun Mill. 936 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,600 Speaker 4: They watching a man. I told y'all, id no sharp, man, 937 00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 4: I told y'all sharp like that. 938 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:46,359 Speaker 3: Man, I bet. 939 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 4: I was so happy, man I call it. 940 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:52,440 Speaker 2: I bet my my cell phone bill probably seven hundred dollars, 941 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 2: cause you know, back then cell phone bill they charged 942 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 2: you by the minute. 943 00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 4: It was like a minute jokes. Oh yeah, yeah, oh yeah, 944 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 4: it was like three fold all of a minute. I 945 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 4: mean a phone bill. 946 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 2: He quick high that I had that big old brick too. 947 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 2: I don't know why I had a brick, bro. I 948 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 2: was a seventh round draft pick, Nigga sixty four thousand. 949 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 2: I got a cell phone. 950 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 4: Ba oh yeah, the Motorola, the Motorola ate something about. 951 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, that had that big brick. Yeah, it had to 952 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 2: be brick. They had the one that you had to 953 00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 2: you had to pouch, you had to carry, you had 954 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 2: to carry with it. 955 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:24,239 Speaker 3: Yeah. 956 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,439 Speaker 4: Yeah that getting on your person, you could get hit it. Yeah. 957 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 4: And then they came with the portable. What Joe, what 958 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,000 Speaker 4: was it was? It was it free on the weekends. 959 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 4: I came later. At first it wasn't like that you 960 00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,320 Speaker 4: had to pay, and it was all like, if you 961 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 4: go out of the area, it was Roman Roman charging. Yeah, man, 962 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,680 Speaker 4: the Roman charging. Man, that thing be about be crazy. 963 00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 4: I ain't know. Let me tell you, I didn't know 964 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:52,879 Speaker 4: nothing about the Roman charge. 965 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 2: I just ate he's plaining it to you back then, 966 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,440 Speaker 2: Oh Joe, they don't explain it to you now that 967 00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 2: this is what you get and if you go over 968 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,080 Speaker 2: your out of you gotta pay. 969 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,359 Speaker 4: They didn't explain it the phone. This is what it calls. 970 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,279 Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. I ain't know nothing about Roman. I 971 00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 4: ain't know. 972 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 2: If you go out of the thing roaming with extra 973 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 2: like six dollars, or you get a call, I'm big balling, 974 00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 2: Oh Joe, I take it my phone on the road. 975 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 1: You got got money? What hey, listen, I forgot I forgot. 976 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,800 Speaker 1: I forgot, uh what service provide money? Yeah, I forgot 977 00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: what service provider? I was with Joe and uncle, but 978 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,560 Speaker 1: I understood that what I was with you. I had 979 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: him explain to me about the minutes, and they said, 980 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: if if you was a certain amount of minutes and 981 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:34,799 Speaker 1: you hold on to it and don't use your phone 982 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: that much this month, the minute's gonna. 983 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 4: Roll over, and they roll over, roll over to the 984 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:39,799 Speaker 4: next month. 985 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,320 Speaker 1: I say, yeah, yeah, so I'm gonna make sure I 986 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: don't go over a certain amount of minutes. So I 987 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,359 Speaker 1: got a little bit extra going to the next month. Joe, 988 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: but hey, there was some days back then. 989 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 4: Boy, it don't work like that. Birth through the minutes 990 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:53,680 Speaker 4: so quick? Quick? 991 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 2: Man? What you birth through the minutes so quick? And 992 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,160 Speaker 2: then what if they brought that week ind uh? After 993 00:48:00,520 --> 00:48:04,320 Speaker 2: after seven o'clock and weekend free? Hey, I called a 994 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 2: I call y'all to sell more five. You't get no 995 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:08,600 Speaker 2: call during today. 996 00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,480 Speaker 4: On the on the phone, on the phone all night, 997 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:13,320 Speaker 4: I call you, what is free? And then the weekend 998 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:17,719 Speaker 4: you burn that thing up? Hey, Hey, to that thing 999 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 4: get hot on the side of your Yeah you got 1000 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 4: oh yeah, hold on and Joe, Hey, Joe, and he 1001 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 4: don't have no girlfriend. Though. 1002 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: On the weekend, y'all be on the phone. You be 1003 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: on the phone all day, all night. Hold on you 1004 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:36,040 Speaker 1: wake up the phone sitting on your chest. Hello, are 1005 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,000 Speaker 1: you you're still there? 1006 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:41,839 Speaker 4: Yeah? The whole a boy and it was some day. Hey, Joe, 1007 00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 4: I know you did that. You ain't gonna lie. Come 1008 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,879 Speaker 4: on now, hey, on the phone all night long. Ain't 1009 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 4: don't be talking about nothing. Ain't talking about nothing, six 1010 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 4: seven hours straight. 1011 00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 2: They made the phone this phones got smaller and they 1012 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,200 Speaker 2: had a little clip that you have on your on 1013 00:48:58,320 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 2: your side like that Star Tech. 1014 00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, in the Sidekick too. Yeah, man, yeah, some good memory. 1015 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,279 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, Joe Ojo, which game do 1016 00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:12,840 Speaker 2: you think will have the most views? Brown's Raiders or Eagles, Cowboys? 1017 00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,719 Speaker 4: Brown Raiders? Probably Browns Raiders. I mean, listen, a lot 1018 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 4: of people, man, it's a lot of people looking forward 1019 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,959 Speaker 4: to seeing you do play. They are. 1020 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,359 Speaker 2: It's in the early window, so they're not going head 1021 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 2: to they're not really going head to head because of 1022 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,719 Speaker 2: the Fox, the Fox game, the Cowboys Eagles. I think 1023 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 2: if I'm not mistaking twenty five right, and so what 1024 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 2: is in that first that one O five window, so 1025 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,839 Speaker 2: all of all the cowboys. Man, Hey, did you see 1026 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 2: all those cowboy fans Monday night at that stadium? 1027 00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:49,839 Speaker 4: Oh? Jo Yo, yeah I did. Did you see all 1028 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 4: those cowboy fans? 1029 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,160 Speaker 2: I flew out, We flew out, Jordan, I flew out 1030 00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:59,520 Speaker 2: on Tuesday morning, Joe, Oh, Joe. I was like, hold on, 1031 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,360 Speaker 2: they fans weren't going to Dallas. They flying to Atlanta. 1032 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 2: So I can just imagine the people going back to Dallas. 1033 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 2: I can imagine the people going elsewhere because there were 1034 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 2: so many cowboy fans in that in that airport, so 1035 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 2: many cowboy fans. I'm talking about cowboy hats, cowboy boots, 1036 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 2: that Jersey CD Jersey. I'm like, oh my goodness, yeah, 1037 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:28,759 Speaker 2: people traveling, man travel the still Cowboys. They're both in 1038 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:33,239 Speaker 2: the lake. Oh, actually they're both. They moved them. The 1039 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,719 Speaker 2: coach Chief is in the early window. So the coach 1040 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:38,920 Speaker 2: Chief is the one o'clock game. And now the are 1041 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,719 Speaker 2: the Browns, Raiders and the Cowboys Eagle are both in 1042 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 2: the same in the same four to twenty five with them. 1043 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,320 Speaker 2: It's gonna be interested. 1044 00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:46,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1045 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,160 Speaker 5: I still, I still think the Browns and Raiders gonna 1046 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 5: have the most views and the way they do that. 1047 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 2: See, you can't get what you call them like like 1048 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 2: sometimes you can have their have Okay, you can watch 1049 00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,680 Speaker 2: this game, this game, this game, this game. They're not 1050 00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:02,759 Speaker 2: finna do it with these two games you got. Hey, 1051 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 2: look why it is so hard to what's the game? 1052 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,360 Speaker 4: Now? Man? You got to download eight apps? You shouldn't do. 1053 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:13,000 Speaker 4: Guess what, Joe, guess what with that new contract? Come up? 1054 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:18,480 Speaker 2: You have a dinload some more? Yeah, Netflix, but now 1055 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,960 Speaker 2: net Flix go don't want a package. That's how they 1056 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,560 Speaker 2: get it. That that's how these French you see all 1057 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:27,760 Speaker 2: these franchises, how they skyrocketing prices. 1058 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 4: I mean Broncos only just he just bought the Broncos 1059 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 4: for four and a half million. 1060 00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 2: Now they worked six point eight billion five six years, 1061 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 2: they've increased two point three billion dollars. The Cowboys worked 1062 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 2: what level twelve thirteen billion? Jerry Bardy for one hundred 1063 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:49,359 Speaker 2: and thirty five hundred and forty million. Hey, that's why 1064 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,080 Speaker 2: because the revenue there's nothing. Look, there are a lot 1065 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:56,200 Speaker 2: of sports, there's baseball, there's basketball, but don't nothing move 1066 00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 2: the needle in North America, like like NFL football. 1067 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 4: Man for love from football. 1068 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:08,600 Speaker 2: And that's two reasons fantasy in sports betty h because 1069 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,000 Speaker 2: you watching intently, are they gonna cover O? 1070 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:11,319 Speaker 4: Joe? 1071 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,399 Speaker 2: And then now the prop bet man, Sometimes you don't 1072 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,480 Speaker 2: even care about the game, and I just want to 1073 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:18,840 Speaker 2: see a CD get six catches. 1074 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 4: I didn't want to see get set by. I want 1075 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:22,160 Speaker 4: to see what chase. 1076 00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 5: Hey, that's what I had. That's what I care about. 1077 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:31,640 Speaker 5: I don't I try to get these props. Hey, look, Ojoe. 1078 00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 5: That's why I have to stop betting. I can't watch 1079 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 5: the game in peace because I got I got my 1080 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 5: I'm trying to hit. 1081 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,560 Speaker 4: I'm like man, and looks like when you watching it 1082 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,879 Speaker 4: intensively like that, you ain't never gonna hit. But boy, 1083 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,880 Speaker 4: let you mess around, make a bet and end up 1084 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 4: falling asleep or something. Be right on the number. Every 1085 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:53,680 Speaker 4: time I had to stop watching. That's how they do 1086 00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 4: when you played. 1087 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,600 Speaker 2: When you play the cast three of the cast, Hey, 1088 00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,760 Speaker 2: I know you happy, happy about what? I know you happy. 1089 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 2: I know you know your birthday came. I said, what 1090 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 2: what birthday that was? My sister called me, tell me, yeah, 1091 00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,640 Speaker 2: I know you had probably had it. I said, had 1092 00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:14,799 Speaker 2: what your birthday? I said, huh my birthday hit at 1093 00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,520 Speaker 2: O six two six cash fok, I have you know 1094 00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, don't you had it straight and straight box? Yeah, 1095 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:23,080 Speaker 2: a little cool, A little cool, twelve fives and five 1096 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 2: hundred full twelve out of five hundred. 1097 00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 3: I hear. 1098 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:26,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1099 00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:29,839 Speaker 4: Then the cast through my aunt's birthday seven eleven. Yeah, 1100 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,640 Speaker 4: I played it. I had it ten times straight it came. 1101 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 4: That's five thousand. 1102 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,960 Speaker 2: They tried to run it back past me, Joe the 1103 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,280 Speaker 2: next day, because I played it that evening on Sunday 1104 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,279 Speaker 2: and I played again, Brooke, and I said, you know what, 1105 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,360 Speaker 2: y'all mak y'all, slip y'all gonna try to run it 1106 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 2: back again. Hey, guess what they came It brought it 1107 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 2: right back, brought it right back, Joe. And guess what 1108 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 2: I was sitting on it again? Another five thousand, Yeah, Joe, 1109 00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 2: they can't get on about it. 1110 00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,480 Speaker 4: Hey, matter of fact, you know what I'm gonna do 1111 00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:57,840 Speaker 4: that now. You just gave me an idea. 1112 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 1: You know, I'm play my grandma and my mama birthdays. Yeah, 1113 00:54:03,680 --> 00:54:07,319 Speaker 1: Grandma and my mama birthdays probably played you know, maybe dude, 1114 00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:08,359 Speaker 1: dude the year they were born. 1115 00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:10,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go play out. 1116 00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,359 Speaker 2: I don't that's that's normally what it. Yes, that's normally 1117 00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:14,080 Speaker 2: what I do. You play your birth If you played it, 1118 00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:17,279 Speaker 2: you could play it straight, combo straight box, I played 1119 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:18,759 Speaker 2: I played it. I played it straight. I had it 1120 00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,800 Speaker 2: two times straight at one time. Combo combo back combo 1121 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 2: probably cost you two dollars because it's extra because now 1122 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,359 Speaker 2: anywhere it comes, those numbers come. It could come six six, 1123 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,919 Speaker 2: two zero, it can come six six oh to any 1124 00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,040 Speaker 2: combination and you'll get you know, half of what you 1125 00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:37,680 Speaker 2: normally would get. So oh yeah, I will, I'll hit it. 1126 00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 4: I hit a lick on it. Oh. 1127 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,520 Speaker 2: Joe Bill's wide receiver Keon Coleman, is reportedly likely to 1128 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 2: be inactive for the second consecutive game. Keon is expected 1129 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,600 Speaker 2: to sit Tomorrow's against Texans, according to Eric Turner of 1130 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,919 Speaker 2: Cover One. Earlier in the week, ko Shan McDermott said 1131 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,399 Speaker 2: he needs to see Keon show growth to get back 1132 00:54:57,440 --> 00:55:00,200 Speaker 2: on the field on Thursday night against the Texans, the 1133 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,359 Speaker 2: Bills are likely to go with Joshua Palmer, Elijah Moore, 1134 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 2: Tyrell Shavers, Khalil Shakir and Gabe Davis as active. 1135 00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 4: Hey, listen, they going with the veterans. They're going with 1136 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 4: the veterans and listen. 1137 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:15,359 Speaker 1: Obviously, as a rookie, you know you want to come 1138 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:18,040 Speaker 1: in and make your impact, but they have players that 1139 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,719 Speaker 1: are a little bit more impactful, a little bit more 1140 00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,479 Speaker 1: impactful than you are, and bring a little a little 1141 00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:27,360 Speaker 1: bit more to the table than you do. So you know, obviously, 1142 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,880 Speaker 1: I mean, at this point we're going in the week twelve, 1143 00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,040 Speaker 1: week thirteen, whatever it may be. I mean, it's already 1144 00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,200 Speaker 1: set in stone. I mean, anything that you could have 1145 00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:38,279 Speaker 1: shown or proved that you could do, you haven't done 1146 00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,400 Speaker 1: it today, which is why they're comfortable making you inactive, 1147 00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 1: showing you that we can get the job done without you, 1148 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,400 Speaker 1: especially as productive as they were offensively last week without you. 1149 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,080 Speaker 4: Hell, you know that we don't need to be have 1150 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 4: a great story, old, I got a great story to 1151 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:52,480 Speaker 4: tell you. 1152 00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,279 Speaker 1: And Joe, oh yeah, we had what five six touchdowns 1153 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,360 Speaker 1: and you didn't play, so whatever. 1154 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 4: But what's the point at this point? Six seventeen yards? Yeah? Hey, 1155 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 4: so hey, you know what that means to me? All 1156 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,120 Speaker 4: it says is Keon Coleman, young boy, I know you're 1157 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 4: gonna see this. 1158 00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,399 Speaker 1: You know how I love you to death. We talk 1159 00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,400 Speaker 1: all the time. Come on down, here with me in 1160 00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,320 Speaker 1: the off season. Come on down here with me the 1161 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:20,280 Speaker 1: off seaton. I guarantee you they'll never sit you down again, even. 1162 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 4: If you do miss a meeting. 1163 00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,279 Speaker 1: He'll be too valuable for them and what you bring 1164 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 1: to the table on a Sunday for the to sit 1165 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 1: you down. Come on down here, work with your boy now. 1166 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,839 Speaker 2: I remember my rookie season, Dennis Smith, number forty nine, 1167 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:36,279 Speaker 2: Oh Joe. 1168 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,080 Speaker 4: We call him Kahunah. 1169 00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 2: And Kahuna I mean he's one of the guys that 1170 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,799 Speaker 2: from the time I got there, he always I don't 1171 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:45,680 Speaker 2: know what it was, but the veteran players, a lot 1172 00:56:45,719 --> 00:56:47,480 Speaker 2: of the veteran players that were really good took a 1173 00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,440 Speaker 2: liking to me him h L Way. I mean, I 1174 00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,799 Speaker 2: mean veteran players. Huna got there in eighty one, John 1175 00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,280 Speaker 2: got there officely in eighty three with the trade through Baltimore. 1176 00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:00,120 Speaker 2: But they the best took a liking to me, and 1177 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:04,799 Speaker 2: I remember him saying, sharp, never let them see they 1178 00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:07,719 Speaker 2: can win without you, Ojo. That's why I shot up 1179 00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:10,520 Speaker 2: a lot of times because I didn't want my backup 1180 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,440 Speaker 2: to get in. And then all of a sudden he 1181 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,000 Speaker 2: played well, and then all of a sudden they figured 1182 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,040 Speaker 2: they can move on from me. So that was also 1183 00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 2: another reason that I shot up. But I'll never forget 1184 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,120 Speaker 2: him saying that. He said sharp, never let them see 1185 00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 2: that they can win without you. If you notice who 1186 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 2: adopts that quarterbacks, Brady take every rep. Peyton Manning took 1187 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,640 Speaker 2: every rep, Brett Fahr took every rep, Drew Brees took 1188 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,000 Speaker 2: every rep. You not fin to see if that guy 1189 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,240 Speaker 2: can play or he can't play, because I'm never gonna 1190 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,000 Speaker 2: give you an opportunity to let you see if he 1191 00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 2: can play. You just got to go on your instinct 1192 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,600 Speaker 2: because I ain't coming out of there. See what Keon 1193 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 2: Coleman did. He allowed them to let Terrell Shavers get 1194 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:53,160 Speaker 2: on the field show we can win without him. Now, 1195 00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,200 Speaker 2: once they find out they can win without you, guess 1196 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 2: what they'll do, Ojo win without you and they'll move on. Now, 1197 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,160 Speaker 2: the coach says, I need to see growth. We having 1198 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,280 Speaker 2: a conversation about a guy in the second year that 1199 00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 2: shows growth. Now, I'm gonna tell you got a great personality. Hey, 1200 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 2: but after a while you were gonna start they were 1201 00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,200 Speaker 2: gonna be laughing at you. You're talking about Guess what 1202 00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 2: the jacket guess why I got the jacket pro I'm 1203 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:19,040 Speaker 2: gonna go back against It's funny, kiki ki, But at 1204 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,760 Speaker 2: the end of the day, you better be putting some 1205 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,880 Speaker 2: points on the board. You better be get some yards, 1206 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 2: You better be get some catches, you better get some 1207 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:28,760 Speaker 2: some sacks of interceptions. You better do something other than 1208 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 2: make them laugh, because they're gonna say you need to 1209 00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:31,920 Speaker 2: go to the mprov. You need to be at the 1210 00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,120 Speaker 2: laugh factory because the football fiel ain't where you need 1211 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:38,040 Speaker 2: to be. Right at the end of the day, as 1212 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 2: my good friend Glow said, that, they gonna end, and 1213 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,320 Speaker 2: when it ends, you better have catches, yards and touchdowns. 1214 00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 2: If you play on the officers side of football as 1215 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:51,040 Speaker 2: a skill position player and they're not playing, they ay, Ojo, 1216 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:53,760 Speaker 2: it's too much money involved, because before you know it, 1217 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 2: they're gonna have to make an investment twenty twenty five 1218 00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 2: thirty thirty five forty million dollars and said, hold on, 1219 00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,520 Speaker 2: you doing this and you're on your rookie contract. What's 1220 00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,480 Speaker 2: gonna happen? We give you thirty million, O Joe. 1221 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you're right. 1222 00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,439 Speaker 1: You got to be special. They got to be something 1223 00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:12,680 Speaker 1: about you, Joe. They got to be something about you 1224 00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:17,320 Speaker 1: as a receiver that separates you. Everybody play receiver, everybody 1225 00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,520 Speaker 1: can run, everybody can catch. What is it about you 1226 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 1: that makes you that much more valuable and better than 1227 00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 1: the next man. It got to be one thing. He 1228 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 1: ain't got to be a bunch. You got to be 1229 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,760 Speaker 1: one thing that separates you from everybody else. 1230 00:59:29,960 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 4: Hey, uncle Joe. 1231 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 1: You know on every on every NFL team, there's a 1232 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 1: number one receiver and there's a number two receiver. 1233 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,280 Speaker 4: There's something about that number one receiver that the number 1234 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,080 Speaker 4: two can't do. Whatever it may be. 1235 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,760 Speaker 1: They both play the same position, but one is a 1236 00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 1: little better than the other. You have to find that 1237 00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,880 Speaker 1: one niche It got just just one, Joe, that's it. 1238 00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,280 Speaker 1: That's all it takes, and they got to find it. 1239 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,320 Speaker 1: His personality is so big, it's so big if we 1240 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,240 Speaker 1: can get his game on the field to match his personality. 1241 00:59:58,040 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 4: Though, Oh my god, hey Joe, I'm talking about it. 1242 01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 1: It's two players I want to work with so bad, Joe, 1243 01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 1: so bad, because I know if I can get them 1244 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:07,960 Speaker 1: anywhere close to how their personality is in front of 1245 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:08,440 Speaker 1: that camera. 1246 01:00:08,560 --> 01:00:11,200 Speaker 4: Off the field, they we talk about all world. We 1247 01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:12,120 Speaker 4: talk about all world. 1248 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 1: They can be in a conversation of top five based 1249 01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 1: on if they can get their skill set up the 1250 01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:18,240 Speaker 1: part of the mess they personality. 1251 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:19,920 Speaker 4: Coleman is one. 1252 01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:24,000 Speaker 1: The other one is Exavier Legged. Hey listen them boys, 1253 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:26,840 Speaker 1: elect them boys electric when that cameras in front of them. Bro, 1254 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:29,200 Speaker 1: if I if I can get that game to match 1255 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:30,440 Speaker 1: their personality? 1256 01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 5: Man, okay Ocho. I like Kean Coleman, and uh, this 1257 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 5: could be a wake up call for him, you know, 1258 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:41,560 Speaker 5: for for him to be a healthy scratch again, like 1259 01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:45,760 Speaker 5: you know, you know what could potentially be coming next 1260 01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,880 Speaker 5: down the pipe. Man, This should this should make him 1261 01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:49,680 Speaker 5: really look at himself in the mirror and get the 1262 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 5: work and be like, man, when I get back out there, 1263 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:52,479 Speaker 5: I got to get them boys. 1264 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 4: Hell, you know what I mean. So yeah, I'm hoping. 1265 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,400 Speaker 5: I'm hoping he takes some good from this, bro, because 1266 01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:01,880 Speaker 5: I seen him over there dancing and all that when 1267 01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 5: he knew he was out. 1268 01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:07,800 Speaker 4: But hey, look that hurt me. Man. 1269 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:09,680 Speaker 5: I tell my son who in college? I say, Bro, 1270 01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 5: they watching you even when you don't think they're watching you. Boy, 1271 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:16,960 Speaker 5: they watching you. Yeah, they watching you. So you sit 1272 01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 5: over there in more power and do all that watching man. 1273 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 4: We've all been here. 1274 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,040 Speaker 2: The longer you go without something, the easier it is 1275 01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:30,880 Speaker 2: to be without something. The longer they play without Kean 1276 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:34,120 Speaker 2: in that lineup, the easy it becomes to them to 1277 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,360 Speaker 2: play without him in the lineup. Give you prime example. 1278 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,680 Speaker 2: You saw they say CD and and and and pick 1279 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 2: went out. Now, if that's the third, fourth, and fifth receiver, 1280 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,880 Speaker 2: they're not even playing right. But that's the one and 1281 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,760 Speaker 2: two receiver. They missed a series. You see the difference. 1282 01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,680 Speaker 2: Jimmy Johnson say, Jimmy Johnson cut a guy for sleeping 1283 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 2: in the meeting. The reporter said, with Jimmy, if that 1284 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 2: was Troy and he was sleeping the meeting, what would 1285 01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 2: you have done? He said, howa woke his ass up? 1286 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,840 Speaker 2: One guy get cut, the other guy get the other 1287 01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:08,080 Speaker 2: guy get get woken up the ass Mike, what back? 1288 01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:08,280 Speaker 4: You know? 1289 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:11,080 Speaker 2: You? You say you lead the players if they're not there, Well, 1290 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 2: what if it's a what if it's TV, what if 1291 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 2: it's sharp, what if it's a way? Well, that's the 1292 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:17,640 Speaker 2: one thing about charging the flight. 1293 01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,400 Speaker 4: They'll wait on you. We're gonna wait. 1294 01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:24,280 Speaker 2: But you you understand the level of importance by some 1295 01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:25,920 Speaker 2: of the things that you can get away with. But 1296 01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:27,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be on time because I need to be 1297 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 2: on the back of the plane to make sure when 1298 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:30,960 Speaker 2: everybody else get on, I see what they're wearing so 1299 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:32,400 Speaker 2: I can cut their ass up when they got on 1300 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:34,680 Speaker 2: the bullet jove, And that's what my job was on Joe, 1301 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 2: get to the plane early so I can see what 1302 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:40,000 Speaker 2: you got on. You know, if you got on bus too, 1303 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:43,960 Speaker 2: that's what shark was. That's what them, That's where them jonings, 1304 01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 2: them Joners work. It was coming out if you got 1305 01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,400 Speaker 2: on some bull hive. Don't you get on bus too. 1306 01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,640 Speaker 2: We had coaches getting on our bus. Man, I just 1307 01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:52,240 Speaker 2: want to see what eighty folk are gonna say about 1308 01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 2: what such and such got on up to the right place. 1309 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:56,000 Speaker 4: His ass up. 1310 01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:01,200 Speaker 2: But key on, don't you don't don't you don't you 1311 01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:05,640 Speaker 2: let us cutch you don't you give us a reason 1312 01:03:05,680 --> 01:03:10,439 Speaker 2: to cutch you. Yeah, they will, or you understand. There's 1313 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,040 Speaker 2: a guy in college right now, won't key on coban spot. 1314 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,200 Speaker 2: There's a guy in high school want to be a 1315 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 2: starting receiver, want to be a receiver on the Buffalo 1316 01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:22,600 Speaker 2: Bills at high school. Bro ain't got his head down 1317 01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,520 Speaker 2: working d y'all this ain't no this ain't no doctor, 1318 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:27,680 Speaker 2: no lawyer. You don't get no thirty your career in 1319 01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,760 Speaker 2: the NFL. They replaced every year to turnover. That's why 1320 01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:34,120 Speaker 2: the average NFL career is two point three years. Even 1321 01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:35,840 Speaker 2: when you get a guy like Aaron Rodgers, they got 1322 01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,479 Speaker 2: twenty seasons. Even you got a guy like Marcedes Lewis, 1323 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:40,800 Speaker 2: they got twenty seasons in fifteen and eighteen. 1324 01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,160 Speaker 4: The average NFL career is two point three years. That's it. 1325 01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 2: So how many guys in order for that twenty and 1326 01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,720 Speaker 2: eighteen and fifteen ojo to drag it down to two 1327 01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,000 Speaker 2: point three That means a lot of guys playing one 1328 01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:54,160 Speaker 2: year or not even play it at all at all. 1329 01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,120 Speaker 5: Absolutely, Hey, look at it. Look look look at the NBA. 1330 01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:00,280 Speaker 5: It's four hundred and fifty guys every year, now just 1331 01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:03,720 Speaker 5: this year, not last year, every year. So if they 1332 01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 5: got fifty new guys coming in every year, guess what 1333 01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,240 Speaker 5: they gotta have at least fifty going out. Fifty guys 1334 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,439 Speaker 5: gotta go. It's four hundred and fifty guys. It's only 1335 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,360 Speaker 5: four hundred and fifty guys every year. 1336 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 3: Bro. 1337 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,400 Speaker 1: Hey, that's why you gotta stay on top of your game. 1338 01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:20,760 Speaker 1: That's why you gotta continuously train. That's it, and don't 1339 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,240 Speaker 1: give them a reason to gotta get better. 1340 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:24,439 Speaker 4: Yeah,