Speaker 1: Find Out and podcast. All Right, so we're obviously very excited.
Speaker 1: For those of you who follow My Beautiful wife on Instagram,
Speaker 1: you realize that we just made a huge announcement last
Speaker 1: Friday in celebration of our new book, The Good Fight.
Speaker 1: So excited. It's available for pre order now. Um. It
Speaker 1: comes out in September. We're still doing some minor edits
Speaker 1: to it right now, but we really wanted to release
Speaker 1: it um now, and especially on our five year wedding anniversary,
Speaker 1: because you know, when an anniversary comes around, I just
Speaker 1: feel like this it's just like the perfect time. It
Speaker 1: was like the perfect time to post about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. And the fact that you know, we're able
Speaker 1: to share it on our anniversary when this book is
Speaker 1: about the last five years, as recent as this past January, like,
Speaker 1: I mean it is, it is recent, even more recent
Speaker 1: because we talked about Quarantine too, You're right, yeah, so yeah, exactly. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, it's it's been the last few
Speaker 1: edits have been very recent, so it's been literally almost
Speaker 1: the last five years to date. You know, of our relationship,
Speaker 1: of our life, our past growing up relationships that we
Speaker 1: had in the beginning, How why we are the way
Speaker 1: that we are who we were when we started dating
Speaker 1: each other and not knowing some of the skeletons in
Speaker 1: our closet, and um, it's it's exciting because for me,
Speaker 1: this is the book that I needed five little not
Speaker 1: five years ago, but four years ago. And the fact
Speaker 1: that we wrote a book that hopefully can show people
Speaker 1: that if you're willing to work together, um, you can
Speaker 1: not only be a better person, but also a better partner.
Speaker 1: And I think to like, it's not just a relationship book.
Speaker 1: So if you're single, if you're divorced, if you're like whatever,
Speaker 1: whatever you are, if you're a guy, if you're a girl.
Speaker 1: I mean, this book is written from both of our
Speaker 1: spective so you get the guy perspective, you get the
Speaker 1: girl perspective, and it's really just about things that we've
Speaker 1: learned along the way to be a better person too.
Speaker 1: So it's like how to talk to a friend or yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's about all kinds of relationships that
Speaker 1: you have in your life. And that's what you know.
Speaker 1: One of our things is that we want people to
Speaker 1: know when when we promote and talk about this book
Speaker 1: is you don't have to be in a relationship. You
Speaker 1: don't have to be dating or or any fact that,
Speaker 1: like Jenna was saying, you can be single. You can
Speaker 1: be it doesn't matter what gender, race, creed, color, like,
Speaker 1: marital status, relationship status, it doesn't matter, even if it's
Speaker 1: it's complicated on Facebook. Whatever. It is, like, there's something
Speaker 1: in this book that you can relate to and probably
Speaker 1: learn to take into your next relationship, whether it's with
Speaker 1: a loving relationship, a parent, a friend, anybody. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: also love how each chapter starts with a fight, not
Speaker 1: a fight, but it's some not all of them start
Speaker 1: with the fight, but it's then we go into like
Speaker 1: how we could have communicated better, or how we could
Speaker 1: have done it differently, or and then really introspectively looking
Speaker 1: at it. No, it's cool though, because it's it kind
Speaker 1: of gets you excited about each chapter where it's not
Speaker 1: just we just start off telling you all the answers
Speaker 1: or because we don't have because we don't have them.
Speaker 1: It's you know, we take you through these arguments and
Speaker 1: these fights. You know that Jan and I had a
Speaker 1: lot of fun really kind of reminiscing on and bringing
Speaker 1: back up on how we remember that fight and that argument,
Speaker 1: um and you know, we go through how we resolved
Speaker 1: it then how we would now, and you know we
Speaker 1: laugh at ourselves that how we handle it in the past.
Speaker 1: I also love how in the book we say a
Speaker 1: lot we are not experts. Clearly, I don't want to
Speaker 1: listen to this podcast can know that we are not
Speaker 1: experts at anything. But we've done a lot of therapy
Speaker 1: and we've learned so many tools that we just want
Speaker 1: to be able to say, hey, this is what has helped,
Speaker 1: and this is also tools that we need to keep
Speaker 1: working on. You know, we need to keep working on
Speaker 1: as individuals and also as you know, each other's lovers.
Speaker 1: But I just you know, even like when we've been
Speaker 1: reading it in the edits, it's like, wow, we need
Speaker 1: to do better at this. Yeah, I mean we call
Speaker 1: ourselves out, you know when like Jana was just saying,
Speaker 1: when we go back and read those edits or even
Speaker 1: throughout the book, we call ourselves out. And you guys
Speaker 1: are gonna read things that we haven't shared before. I mean,
Speaker 1: you guys think we're vulnerable on this podcast, Like we
Speaker 1: share things that you all haven't heard, that we haven't
Speaker 1: talked about um up into this book, and it was
Speaker 1: really important for us that we this book comes directly
Speaker 1: from our mouth. Like we didn't get a ghostwriter, we
Speaker 1: didn't get anyone to help us. It came from Janna
Speaker 1: and I. It took a lot of work almost we
Speaker 1: saw amazing editor Sydney, who helped us, no question, to
Speaker 1: make him professional and make them go and go together.
Speaker 1: Because I write an exclamation points. So like when I
Speaker 1: was writing my section, like I would write like okay,
Speaker 1: so dot dot dot and Mike's like, okay. He every
Speaker 1: time he'd read my section, he'd be like I love you,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, why are you laughing at me? He's like,
Speaker 1: because you literally write how you talk. And we kept it.
Speaker 1: We didn't because the ghostwriter would have taken my voice
Speaker 1: and just like it would have been so cold. And
Speaker 1: nothing against ghostwriters anything that, but they just it's so
Speaker 1: important that people are able to, you know, read this
Speaker 1: for this kind of book, that read this like we
Speaker 1: are talking to them and we literally are. So when
Speaker 1: you see Jana's portions like okay, so this is what happened,
Speaker 1: and it's it's amazing. But we're so proud of this.
Speaker 1: I mean, we've worked really, really hard. This has been
Speaker 1: our baby for the last almost a year to date
Speaker 1: when we signed with HarperCollins, and we just really really
Speaker 1: hope y'all are willing to buy it and spend the
Speaker 1: time reading it. We promise you won't be let down.
Speaker 1: We're so excited, and maybe we can share a few
Speaker 1: tidbits along the way and teases, because there's some good
Speaker 1: teases in there. Maybe you know what we should do
Speaker 1: is is reenact some the dialogue of the of an argument.
Speaker 1: That would be really fun to do. Now, yeah, we
Speaker 1: should definitely teach some of it just until official on sale,
Speaker 1: but for right now, you can preorder it. You can
Speaker 1: go to Jana and Mike dot com and pre order
Speaker 1: the book. Um, the Good Fight, And we're so excited.
Speaker 1: Take a break, and then let's recap our five year
Speaker 1: wedding anniversary. All right, So well, first of all, we
Speaker 1: have a great guest on today, Busy Phillips. Fantastically so
Speaker 1: excited to talk to her. She's awesome, love how she's
Speaker 1: just everything she stands for him. I'm just really pumped
Speaker 1: to talk to her. But did you have fun in
Speaker 1: our five year I did, honey, you know, and it's funny.
Speaker 1: The morning didn't start out great, right, you know, because
Speaker 1: we had some emotions around things in the past obviously
Speaker 1: and we got through them. But which is understandable in
Speaker 1: our situation. Mark would say, what emotions? Yeah, yeah, sorry, Mark,
Speaker 1: you're not here to keep digging. And also you were
Speaker 1: bumped because you've kind of planned this anniversary because we
Speaker 1: kind of trade off. And granted this was supposed to
Speaker 1: supposed to be a together one that we're going to
Speaker 1: go to Italy four, but those plans got kind of acts.
Speaker 1: But the morning, you know, you wanted to go do
Speaker 1: kayaking and everything like that, and you had this all,
Speaker 1: you know, this outdoor day plan, but it was raining
Speaker 1: all day. But how good was it? Just making the
Speaker 1: most of it and just spend a time together and
Speaker 1: that's all it's about. Yeah, it was awesome. Um, and
Speaker 1: you know, emotions of five years, it's it's it's sometimes
Speaker 1: hard to look back on, right, yeah and go like wow,
Speaker 1: like there's a we We we managed to get a
Speaker 1: lot in the first five years. Yeah, But I feel
Speaker 1: like in a in a way, it's a really cool
Speaker 1: And that's why I love like that we announced the
Speaker 1: book to on the five year anniversary, because it was
Speaker 1: it's such a silver lining, you know, like, yeah, we've
Speaker 1: been through stuff, but like we've really worked our butts
Speaker 1: off to get to where we're at today. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: no question. And you know I told this to you
Speaker 1: on on our anniversary, but the first five years have
Speaker 1: not been what I promised. You have not been what
Speaker 1: we wanted, um because of me ultimately, And I just
Speaker 1: want you to know that I appreciate your strength and
Speaker 1: everything in the past five years, and I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: and we'll be doing everything in my power every single
Speaker 1: day to make sure that the next five years or
Speaker 1: so great that you that the first five are just
Speaker 1: a blur to you, a distant memory. So I love
Speaker 1: you so much and I appreciate you for sticking this
Speaker 1: out with me. Well again and thank you. It's very
Speaker 1: like terio, um, thank you. You know, it's it's both
Speaker 1: of us. Though at the end of the day, you
Speaker 1: know you you thought just as hard as I did,
Speaker 1: because there's days where I'm you know, there's so many
Speaker 1: days where I was just battling you and just being angry,
Speaker 1: and I just you know you you stuck it out too,
Speaker 1: and every day is you know, we're we're doing this together.
Speaker 1: And I think we're going to have our good and
Speaker 1: bad days. And again just like the book where it's
Speaker 1: just end of the day though, like, um, but yeah,
Speaker 1: no it was. It was great and I loved I
Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed the dinner I made you. I did.
Speaker 1: It was an amazing It's all about effort, it is,
Speaker 1: you know, It's all about effort, it really is. But
Speaker 1: I'm excited for the next five and honestly, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: I wouldn't change the last five either, because we have
Speaker 1: two beautiful children out of it, and we've learned a lot,
Speaker 1: and I'm glad that hopefully all that stuff is out
Speaker 1: of the way so that five we can be like,
Speaker 1: oh that was you know, breeze. Yeah. Um, speaking of
Speaker 1: we got chickens, We did get chickens. I don't know
Speaker 1: what's speaking of meant, but we did get chickens because
Speaker 1: we want to lay some eggs, yea. And before that, well,
Speaker 1: we got the chickens because originally Janna wanted house mouse
Speaker 1: because we started seeing some mice around our house and
Speaker 1: like in the grill and you know, in the backyard,
Speaker 1: and Janna was like, can we get a house mouse? Like,
Speaker 1: can we domesticate one. I didn't saying why we couldn't though,
Speaker 1: because people have hamsters. But then we started to do
Speaker 1: some research and people say that mouse, mice, mouseeces, but
Speaker 1: nieces are really like dirty and they carry diseases. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're the worst. We'll have to look it up. Like
Speaker 1: they're so cute, Yeah, they're They're one I saw. I
Speaker 1: told you I saw in the backyard. Literally looked like
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse, Like these cute little eyes, giant ears, little head.
Speaker 1: It was adorable, like I imagine Cinderella, Like I want
Speaker 1: the house mouse that like I want us. Jason is
Speaker 1: our guest. But I just thought like maybe we could
Speaker 1: like potty train it because they're just so cute, Like
Speaker 1: I wanted to sleep on our little bed, have a
Speaker 1: little bed for it. And because we couldn't do that,
Speaker 1: we decided to get chickens instead. But now we have
Speaker 1: to get rid of them. We'll not get rid of them.
Speaker 1: We have to take them to our friend's farm. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the h o A. We actually though I talked
Speaker 1: to the builder. I don't want to get it on
Speaker 1: that conversation with the molds and everything else, but anyways,
Speaker 1: we talked to the building and he's like, we'll just
Speaker 1: hide the chicken coop, and I'm like, we bought really
Speaker 1: cute chicken coop. But long story short, we have some
Speaker 1: really good friends that live about a half a mile
Speaker 1: down the road. They have a beautiful farm with lots
Speaker 1: of other chickens. So we're gonna we're gonna keep the
Speaker 1: chickens here until we can, and then we're going to
Speaker 1: take them there. And every day Joey is going to
Speaker 1: go and take care of him, and she's been doing
Speaker 1: such a good job. She's just like she loves her.
Speaker 1: Majesty we named him Majesty is hers cars Jason's of course,
Speaker 1: and then Shadows mine and then I have Hazel Sweet.
Speaker 1: They're sweet. There are a lot of fun though. We
Speaker 1: wish we could keep them here. Eventually we're going to
Speaker 1: build on land and then we're going to take our
Speaker 1: chickens back, take them back, but until then, we're gonna
Speaker 1: store them at our friends, and then we're going to
Speaker 1: collect the eggs absolutely because that's why we got them,
Speaker 1: because we eat so many eggs. Anyways, I really want
Speaker 1: a house mouth, so I'm gonna work on that. But um,
Speaker 1: get busy, all right, Hey, busy Hey, it's Janna and
Speaker 1: Mike from the Line Down crew. How are you what?
Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you guys? How's how's homeschool? You
Speaker 1: know what? We stopped because she's yeah. It was our
Speaker 1: daughter's four, our daughters four, and then our sons eighteen
Speaker 1: months old. So like we were trying to do what
Speaker 1: they were teaching us in preschool. We're like, okay, you
Speaker 1: know ABC all like the alphabet stuff. But then she
Speaker 1: was just getting She just kept saying the wrong letters,
Speaker 1: and I was like, but you just said it right
Speaker 1: two seconds ago, Like so I was losing my mind.
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, you're four, You're fine,
Speaker 1: You're gonna be fine. Like it fine, Everyone's gonna be fine.
Speaker 1: That's the realization I also came to. I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure everything's gonna be fine. I do feel
Speaker 1: for people who have like very young kids, like you guys,
Speaker 1: like it is sad is a lot. It is, but
Speaker 1: it's also like it doesn't really change that much though,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like it's kind of
Speaker 1: like my son has no idea. Yes, I was gonna
Speaker 1: ask you busy because your kids are eleven and like
Speaker 1: six O awesome so with those ages and then being older,
Speaker 1: especially the eleven year old, like Jane was saying, I
Speaker 1: feel like we've talked about amongst ourselves, we feel like
Speaker 1: that's actually even more pressure having someone who is conscious
Speaker 1: of what's going on, who is a little bit more active.
Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah, but I have to say, like my daughter,
Speaker 1: my eleven year old, has been look, this is a
Speaker 1: very interesting time to even be having kids this last decade,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And and my daughter has
Speaker 1: been aware of so many things for so long, like, um,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is like so dark, but I mean, honestly,
Speaker 1: like Newton, the school shooting happened when she was old
Speaker 1: enough to know what that you know, know what it was,
Speaker 1: So like she's been aware of the intensity and what
Speaker 1: like the and how scary the world is her entire
Speaker 1: really her entire school age life. Um, And so she
Speaker 1: has a real understanding of this in a way that
Speaker 1: she also just as like, yeah, the world is kind
Speaker 1: of terrible, like you know what I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: not in a just in a very like yeah, things
Speaker 1: are bad, things are bad. Cricket, the little one, it
Speaker 1: has loves the names Bertie and Cricket. It's so cute.
Speaker 1: I love it. She's definitely been the one where like
Speaker 1: this is the first time something has happened where she's
Speaker 1: been examining the world and seeing it in a different
Speaker 1: way and trying to wrap her head around what it means.
Speaker 1: And um, so you know, we have had more conversations
Speaker 1: with her. She asked me like like one or two
Speaker 1: weeks in, we were sitting in the kitchen before I
Speaker 1: started her home school for the day, and um, and
Speaker 1: she was like, Mom, I have a question. I was like,
Speaker 1: of course, babe, what what's up? And she's like, are
Speaker 1: things bad? And I was like are things bad? What
Speaker 1: do you mean? And she's like like, uh, with the virus,
Speaker 1: I feel like things are bad. Are things bad? Like
Speaker 1: in the world. And I was like yes, okay, So
Speaker 1: there's where we have to talk. Um, we're very lucky,
Speaker 1: we're very privileged. Um, you know, we're And she's like, right,
Speaker 1: because you're an actress and the author and host and
Speaker 1: everything else. Yeah, not exactly. I'm like, we're healthy. You know,
Speaker 1: we have jobs right now, your dad and we're able
Speaker 1: to provide for you guys, and so like, you know,
Speaker 1: for all of those reasons, we're you know, very lucky
Speaker 1: and privileged right now. But yeah, like for a lot
Speaker 1: of people it can. This is a really tough time
Speaker 1: and you know, we need to just be really aware
Speaker 1: and year out ways to give back. And so this
Speaker 1: time we've really spent a lot of just you know,
Speaker 1: our time talking about how we give back and in
Speaker 1: what ways. And the girls we went through their books
Speaker 1: and we donated to a local charity that was distributing
Speaker 1: books to l a USD kids and kids and underserved
Speaker 1: communities here. You know, I think it was interesting for
Speaker 1: my daughters to conceptualize that a lot of kids don't
Speaker 1: have books in their home, and when they're taking out
Speaker 1: of school and they're taken and the libraries are all closed,
Speaker 1: they don't have anything to read for fun, you know,
Speaker 1: so they don't they those girls, like, we donated boxes
Speaker 1: and boxes of books, and you know, I'm so excited
Speaker 1: to partner with Walgreens to get the word out about
Speaker 1: Red Nose Day, which also raises so much money for
Speaker 1: kids in need. Yeah, and Jolie had fun last year too.
Speaker 1: She got to pick up the noses, Like we went
Speaker 1: to Walgreens and you know, she got to see which
Speaker 1: one it was, so like she had a lot of
Speaker 1: fun doing it too, which is like because remember we
Speaker 1: did that last year with her think and it was
Speaker 1: just like it was so nice to be able to
Speaker 1: be like and then we're also giving back, you know,
Speaker 1: like she's having fun but also giving back. And I
Speaker 1: think that people, especially now kind of they do look
Speaker 1: for you know, almost like a two for one like
Speaker 1: it's and for me with Red Nose Day. The last
Speaker 1: several years, I've used it with my girls as well
Speaker 1: because it is a fun way for them to be
Speaker 1: participatory in giving back and you can like kind of
Speaker 1: start those conversations with them because I do think that
Speaker 1: there's something especially in this time that's empowering for everyone,
Speaker 1: but especially for kids to know that like even though
Speaker 1: things can feel scary, that um, they're aware, they know that,
Speaker 1: like things are bad, there are ways that we can
Speaker 1: help make things a little bit better for other people.
Speaker 1: Because hopefully that I da would be that if you
Speaker 1: were ever in that situation, somebody would do the same
Speaker 1: for us. And so like that's the that's the part
Speaker 1: where Cricket, like the little light bulb finally turned on
Speaker 1: for her. She's six now in first grade, and like
Speaker 1: you know, for Bertie, it's been a part of her.
Speaker 1: She's gosh. I mean, she did a backpack drive in
Speaker 1: first grade for baby to baby like she's she's been
Speaker 1: very aware. She did this year, she did a huge
Speaker 1: thing collecting um like unopened brand new makeup and hair
Speaker 1: products and beauty products for the LGBTQ Center here in
Speaker 1: l A for the trans youth, the homeless, trans kids,
Speaker 1: um And she collected so much stuff from influencers, actresses
Speaker 1: and hair and makeup artists. I mean, that's amazing. But
Speaker 1: also Bertie's got year back too, though, because that letter
Speaker 1: that she wrote to eat Like was probably and I
Speaker 1: just have to say, like I remember it was seeing
Speaker 1: that and being like, oh my gosh, like how strong
Speaker 1: her daughter is and also like what you've instilled in her.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, like, even when I saw that,
Speaker 1: I had I gave you so much, like so many
Speaker 1: kudos for that, because there's so many times when I
Speaker 1: wish I could have said that, but I held back
Speaker 1: because I'm like the wind side of me and I
Speaker 1: you told me I got the part, and that it's
Speaker 1: like so it's but I you know, you do you
Speaker 1: play your little pretty part and you go back in
Speaker 1: your little box and then you put the bow on it,
Speaker 1: and you know, you do for the but it's like,
Speaker 1: I just was like, I had so much respect for
Speaker 1: you when that happened and how you responded, and then
Speaker 1: what Birdie did on top of it with the letter.
Speaker 1: I was just like, they're just powerful girls, but in
Speaker 1: a classy way, and I just really respected that look,
Speaker 1: even if sometimes you're not classy about it, like, but
Speaker 1: it was though in a in a classy way. It was.
Speaker 1: I think that part of what I what I hoped
Speaker 1: to instill in my in my daughter, and and what
Speaker 1: I think that I've come to realize even in this
Speaker 1: industry and as as women, I think that for too long,
Speaker 1: too many of us were sort of fed this idea
Speaker 1: that if you're just like quiet and you stay in
Speaker 1: your lane, that then you can like continue to exist.
Speaker 1: And the truth is that's not the truth. Um. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what a lot of people would like for women
Speaker 1: and girls to do. But uh, you can make noise
Speaker 1: and you can be heard and um and you cannot
Speaker 1: be uh penalized for it. Um because you know, especially now,
Speaker 1: I think with everyone having access to all the information
Speaker 1: and social media and being able to share things. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, there's a lot of support out there, so
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's really empowering to know that
Speaker 1: that there are places that previously, like you know, in
Speaker 1: the enterty in the industry. I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: if if I would have felt as comfortable being vocal
Speaker 1: ten years ago, but I just know because of you know,
Speaker 1: my fan base and my immediacy of being able to
Speaker 1: get feedback from so you know, social media and the
Speaker 1: people that follow me and support me, and the brands
Speaker 1: that I've worked with, and the relationships that I have
Speaker 1: with with even that side, because that commercial side is
Speaker 1: like so important in terms of driving the business, you know,
Speaker 1: especially television, And I was like, there's no point for
Speaker 1: me to be quiet about what I view as kind
Speaker 1: of an injustice and something that you know, was really
Speaker 1: unexpected for me. And it was I mean, it wasn't
Speaker 1: like there was no fallout from it other than you know,
Speaker 1: they all got fired. I mean busy. Is that something
Speaker 1: by the way they all got fired? But I mean
Speaker 1: I didn't that I didn't have anything do it? Is
Speaker 1: that something? You know? Is that something? Uh you know again,
Speaker 1: because our our kids are younger, for and under with
Speaker 1: your eleven year old with Bertie, is that something that
Speaker 1: you're like making a point to verbally say to her
Speaker 1: and teach her, or is that something like to speak
Speaker 1: your mind and kind of be true to yourself. Or
Speaker 1: is that something she's experiencing more by watching you or
Speaker 1: is it a mix of both. So that's it's such
Speaker 1: a great question because I really feel like the the
Speaker 1: actions speak so much louder than the words. And um,
Speaker 1: you know, and I see this. You know I have
Speaker 1: I have girls, and I have a lot of friends
Speaker 1: who have girls. Um. Obviously, because I'm my daughter's friends
Speaker 1: and whatever, I'm a lot, I'm around a lot of
Speaker 1: mothers and daughters. So let me just say that, UM,
Speaker 1: I see this most frequently put into play about body image. UM.
Speaker 1: And because it's just the most specific thing I can
Speaker 1: point to write like and and like the most obvious one, UM,
Speaker 1: where moms will be telling their daughters like, you're beautiful,
Speaker 1: I mean, you're gorgeous, You're beautiful, And then you're at
Speaker 1: the birthday pool party and the mom is like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't wear bikinis. Are you kidding me? My body
Speaker 1: is gross? So it's like okay, So these little girls
Speaker 1: are looking at the woman that they think is the
Speaker 1: most beautiful person in the world, and she's saying she
Speaker 1: won't even get out of her cover up because her
Speaker 1: body's gross. Well, my body must be gross too. That
Speaker 1: body is gross, and you know. So that's like where
Speaker 1: I that clicked for me very very early on, like
Speaker 1: when Bertie was a baby baby, and I started to
Speaker 1: notice that with the moms. And it became because I'm
Speaker 1: like any woman of my generation, I have my own
Speaker 1: issues with um, you know, body image ideas that have
Speaker 1: been perpetrated on me from you know, culturally and pop
Speaker 1: culture and you know, the patriarchy whatever. But I it
Speaker 1: just became very aware that I had to even if
Speaker 1: I didn't feel it, I had to start to live
Speaker 1: as though I loved this body. This body is amazing.
Speaker 1: I'm wearing a bikini like I'm in the pool. I
Speaker 1: don't even It's not a thing I even talk about, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't talk about it. It's like it's it is.
Speaker 1: You know, my husband doesn't talk about his body, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I have these girls that like,
Speaker 1: don't I feel like they don't really put too much
Speaker 1: value on their their bodies. As objects or whatever. But
Speaker 1: I do see, especially starting now with you know, these
Speaker 1: preteens that have been around, there are some of these
Speaker 1: kids that are like very focused on what they're eating
Speaker 1: and like, no, I can't eat cheese. Uh, you know
Speaker 1: it's too fattening. Like I've heard little girls say that,
Speaker 1: Like you know, they're not they're not reading that on
Speaker 1: Jolly would not see that because all I do is
Speaker 1: shove my face with cheese and wine. So if anything,
Speaker 1: so she's like, I love cheese. I know, she's like
Speaker 1: the love it, give me the pizza and the cheese.
Speaker 1: But we know we have to let you go. Where
Speaker 1: can our listeners, Um, I know Walgreens And then um
Speaker 1: with with Red Nose Day. Yeah, so this is so incredible.
Speaker 1: So I mean, with you know, everything being the way
Speaker 1: that it is right now, everyone's making adjustments. Walgreens is
Speaker 1: no exception with Red Nose Day, but we still want
Speaker 1: people to participate and to donate, and so if you
Speaker 1: go to walgreens dot com slash Red Nose Day, you
Speaker 1: can make a donation to the charity. Um and then
Speaker 1: you get this filter, a digital red nose that you
Speaker 1: can use and post on social media and Honestly, my
Speaker 1: kids are having just as much fun with this filter
Speaker 1: as they had with the actual red nose. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: the nose always would fall off anyway, so it's like
Speaker 1: it can't so this morning we got her. Yeah no, wait,
Speaker 1: how old your little one? Anyone? Oh, eighteen months? You
Speaker 1: can't get a notice to stay on the eighteen month
Speaker 1: old anyway, So this is like actually a better version
Speaker 1: of it for you. You can get that picture exactly, buzzy.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. I love you. I love everything
Speaker 1: you stand for, and you're just the friend that I
Speaker 1: always wanted, So love you you. Um. She was awesome.
Speaker 1: I love her and it was super ballsy to what
Speaker 1: she did, just to recap people that don't know with E.
Speaker 1: E kind of blindsided her with canceling her show and
Speaker 1: she had just talked to the creator or not the creator,
Speaker 1: like the head of E and she was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: everything's fine, and then they just completely blindsided her. And
Speaker 1: it's just and I just have so much respect for
Speaker 1: that because there's been so many times where you know,
Speaker 1: you think you're safe and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they're like killing off your character. You're like, wait, what,
Speaker 1: like like a heads up? Would have been nice, and so,
Speaker 1: you know, to me, I thought it was. Even though
Speaker 1: she said it was a ballsy move, I think, you know,
Speaker 1: she had her right to. In my opinion, I think
Speaker 1: it was. It was super ballsy. But and she did it,
Speaker 1: I think in a classy way. With the letter that
Speaker 1: Bertie wrote just saying you know, hey, that wasn't very
Speaker 1: nice to my mommy. And so I just, you know,
Speaker 1: that's something I'm like, Oh, I wonder if Joey would
Speaker 1: write a letter for me. I think it's you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes you need to challenge the you know, challenge big
Speaker 1: brother a little bit, and so you gotta call people
Speaker 1: out sometimes when when stuff, especially in that kind of business,
Speaker 1: has been handled that way for so long, you know
Speaker 1: for sure. And she's just yeah, she just I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just love her. And then she's friends with Michelle
Speaker 1: Williams to and I just adore Michelle Williams. She just
Speaker 1: seems like she's a great friend, like she's got your back. Hey.
Speaker 1: But so before we do emails, um, Tori, did you
Speaker 1: find something out about a house mouse? So there's not
Speaker 1: really anything about a house mouse, but there is an
Speaker 1: article saying if you are thinking about getting a pet mice.
Speaker 1: Here some things to think about. Um, they have a
Speaker 1: relatively short lifespans, so you have to explain that to
Speaker 1: the kids, which could be a little different. How many
Speaker 1: years do they live, Oh, it's months, that's where he went,
Speaker 1: he died. They spread more germs than you know. They
Speaker 1: carry hanta virus, in salmonella, and up to two human pathogens.
Speaker 1: That's also my start potty trained. So if they aren't
Speaker 1: the house trained, then they are not. I know, you
Speaker 1: really want they're just so cute. Okay, well that's disgusting.
Speaker 1: Then that's about all right. Well and we can see
Speaker 1: them from afar. Yeah, they're blowing outside, all right. Let
Speaker 1: my father's addiction from Sarah. My father had a sex
Speaker 1: addiction my whole life, but it was not disclosed to
Speaker 1: me until I was twenty years old. There was a
Speaker 1: lot of times when I was growing up where my
Speaker 1: father's addiction affected my life, but I didn't know why.
Speaker 1: I feel like if my parents would have been open
Speaker 1: and honest with us about my father's addiction, then I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have gone through so much heartache and drama as teenager.
Speaker 1: When do you all plan on disclosing to your children
Speaker 1: about Mike sex addiction. You know, Jane and I have
Speaker 1: talked about that a little bit. Granted, fortunately we're still
Speaker 1: some years away from having to worry about it, um,
Speaker 1: but it would definitely be before you know, the kids
Speaker 1: are twenty years old, especially nowadays with the Internet and
Speaker 1: kids being able to navigate that so much sooner than
Speaker 1: we even give them credit for. You know, who knows
Speaker 1: how old Joli will be before she googles. She realized
Speaker 1: that she can google mom and dad, um, she can
Speaker 1: also google her name. Found that out the other night.
Speaker 1: I was just like laying in bed and I was
Speaker 1: saw an article about like from from Mother's Day and
Speaker 1: it had my name in it and and also had her name,
Speaker 1: and so I was just like, oh, that's weird, Like
Speaker 1: her name is highlighted because usually it's it's not. And
Speaker 1: I click on it and it's like Julie Raycasson aged
Speaker 1: four years old, like she has like her own little
Speaker 1: Wikipedia page, and I was just like, uh yeah, I
Speaker 1: was like, I don't like this. I don't like this,
Speaker 1: and then obviously had like links to like our stuff.
Speaker 1: So I mean it's but then some of it's cute
Speaker 1: because she's you know when she was on the carpet
Speaker 1: with me and for the runway things. So some of
Speaker 1: those things are cute because it's good memories, but then
Speaker 1: also it's like, oh crap, like she could easily click
Speaker 1: on this link to go there. So I mean I
Speaker 1: would like to her to find out before a friend
Speaker 1: tells her. Yeah, I think, Um, the age I'm thinking
Speaker 1: is maybe ten ish to twelve. Yeah, I was thinking
Speaker 1: like twelve. My only reason I would like to I
Speaker 1: mean prolong even later, not twenty, but even later. I
Speaker 1: don't want to make it a huge sit down on
Speaker 1: the do you know what I mean? Like who knows
Speaker 1: where we'll be in twelve years too or when whatever?
Speaker 1: In many years, like we could be because it could
Speaker 1: be like no, no, not yes, but like also like
Speaker 1: you know what it happens if we're not together, and
Speaker 1: it's like, well, obviously she knew mom and daddy had issues,
Speaker 1: you know, if like we're divorced, so it just becomes
Speaker 1: one of those things like where it's not this big thing,
Speaker 1: you know, but if we still stay together, it's still
Speaker 1: that not this big thing. Like we've been married and
Speaker 1: like we're great, you know, So it's just this is
Speaker 1: just something that Daddy went through, and you know, and
Speaker 1: then it can be like and this is how great
Speaker 1: we've been able to handle it, or now we're divorced
Speaker 1: and this is why Daddy and I may be separated. Right.
Speaker 1: I think it's just as soon as they're at the
Speaker 1: age of really being able to read and comprehend things,
Speaker 1: and their friends are doing the same. So around that
Speaker 1: six seven grade age range, Um, when you know that's
Speaker 1: what kids are doing and gossiping this and that, I
Speaker 1: think it's just like you said, we don't have to
Speaker 1: make it taboo or this big thing around it. But hey,
Speaker 1: you know, baby, as as you get older, you might
Speaker 1: read things about mommy and daddy and especially Daddy, and
Speaker 1: you know, Daddy's had a sickness that he's dealt with
Speaker 1: his whole life, and I do things to prevent from
Speaker 1: going down that path. I mean, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the words, what words I'm going to find to say
Speaker 1: in that moment, but um, it's definitely gonna be sooner
Speaker 1: rather than later. Like from Bruck, my husband has changed.
Speaker 1: I am twenty eight and have been married to my
Speaker 1: husband for four years and we have three beautiful children.
Speaker 1: I love my husband. I really do. But since he
Speaker 1: started his new job, he has changed so much. He
Speaker 1: works with all single guys that sit at home every
Speaker 1: night and play video games and drink. My husband has
Speaker 1: developed a serious drinking problem. And I take care of everything.
Speaker 1: The kids will drop off, the cleaning bills, etcetera. I
Speaker 1: finally got to the point where I had to get
Speaker 1: a separate bank account just from my paycheck to go
Speaker 1: solely towards bills because he was blowing all of our money.
Speaker 1: We talked and I told him I would pay all
Speaker 1: the bills except for his car payment and the electric.
Speaker 1: But I was woken up at three m last week
Speaker 1: to a tow truck repossessing his car. Once we finally
Speaker 1: got that all straightened out and picked his car up,
Speaker 1: we got home and had a notice that our electric
Speaker 1: was going to be shut off. I don't know what
Speaker 1: to do. Please help, dang. I mean, it seems like
Speaker 1: Brooks doing what she can and trying to talk to
Speaker 1: him about it. I mean, you know, one of these situations,
Speaker 1: it's almost like, you know, men in general, people in general,
Speaker 1: but men especially can be so prideful at times where
Speaker 1: hearing something that that they're doing wrong. It's hard to
Speaker 1: face that when hearing it from the people closest to you,
Speaker 1: sometimes you need a third party that's removed from the
Speaker 1: situation to kind of keep you know, get real with you.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I mean again, we're big advocates for therapy,
Speaker 1: So any kind of couples therapy around this or I
Speaker 1: don't know, maybe a list of consequences. I think it's
Speaker 1: hard to because the guy is a hanging out with
Speaker 1: a bunch of single people, and I think it's easier
Speaker 1: for guys to kind of morph into that world. Um
Speaker 1: if that's who they're hanging out with, you know, like
Speaker 1: they'll start to like, for example, one of our neighbors
Speaker 1: is hanging out with like a bunch of younger dudes
Speaker 1: and the wife is like, what are you doing? You know,
Speaker 1: like why are you writing skateboards? Like this isn't who
Speaker 1: you are, But it's because that's the people that he's
Speaker 1: like hanging around. So they start to become something that
Speaker 1: there maybe not And maybe because I mean, y'all did
Speaker 1: get married quite young. You know, you may get married
Speaker 1: at twenty four, so maybe he feels like he hasn't
Speaker 1: lived his you know, like what these other guys are living,
Speaker 1: right now doesn't make any of an excuse for sure,
Speaker 1: But I would just you know, have a sit down
Speaker 1: and say, like I try to do therapy would be
Speaker 1: the first step, because you know you do love them
Speaker 1: and you know you want it to work for your
Speaker 1: kids and for you guys. But I think just over
Speaker 1: communicating and sitting down with someone that can professionally be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know some things have to change in order for
Speaker 1: you to feel safe. And you know, if you're doing
Speaker 1: everything like, you need that extra support and you need
Speaker 1: that person that you need your husband to help. And
Speaker 1: that's not crazy for you to ask, That's not crazy
Speaker 1: for you to think, that's not crazy for you to need.
Speaker 1: So just and I think she took a great step
Speaker 1: with separating the bank accounts and that way she can
Speaker 1: manage that. And you know the fact that he had
Speaker 1: to do with the consequence of his car being repode
Speaker 1: and see there's my here's my debate to that though,
Speaker 1: because you know, in our relationship, you've always said it's
Speaker 1: our money, it's our like, we shouldn't have separate accounts.
Speaker 1: So I guess, like, where do you then draw the
Speaker 1: line with this, because she's essentially saying your car, you
Speaker 1: have to pay for the electric, you have to pay
Speaker 1: She's just doing it because, you know, the it's been
Speaker 1: a problem with the money and stuff, where she's just
Speaker 1: kind of protecting, you know, her ability to keep things
Speaker 1: on for the kids, the bills and all of that
Speaker 1: because he was spending so much money on drinking and
Speaker 1: whatever else he was doing that she's not trying to
Speaker 1: She didn't want to separate it. She had to out
Speaker 1: of a consequence because he was blowing that kind of
Speaker 1: money that could significantly damage you know, what they're trying
Speaker 1: to build. Yeah, for sure, go to therapy. It would
Speaker 1: be the biggest advice that I would probably say. But um,
Speaker 1: all right, guys, good show, busy was great. Um, and
Speaker 1: I'm excited to wind down with you guys next week.
Speaker 1: See you next week.