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Speaker 1: Welcome to Who Was the history quick show that gives

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Speaker 1: You know this show is like Jeopardy, only with surprise guests,

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Speaker 1: we have August August. Please introduce yourself. Hi, my name

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Speaker 1: like a lot of people, didn't find immediate success. Mark

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Speaker 1: That's the full saying. You can't just make up sayings.

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Speaker 1: And there's something exciting about that that he wrote them

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Speaker 1: and called up who was that? Well. This has been

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Speaker 1: to our contestants about these two historical figures. Now it's time, though,

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Speaker 1: Elliott and b It was so close for so long.

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Speaker 1: But in the end, August at twelve points Brady ten

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Speaker 1: August is our winner. It's a close game. You both

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Speaker 1: some alright, August, that's our patch kid. I'll send you

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Speaker 1: competitive contestant with me anytime a guy, and my books

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Speaker 1: and now my teachers will get bucks. That's true. That's

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Speaker 1: true because our winner in the library of their choice

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Speaker 1: of all, thank you to you at home or wherever

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Speaker 1: you are for listening. Next week join us again as

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Speaker 1: Until then, this is Elliott not actually the rocket. Please

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