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Speaker 2: want to do today. I want to start this show
Speaker 2: about Okay, there little hiccups.
Speaker 7: Nervous about what's going on.
Speaker 3: Get to the hiccups.
Speaker 5: Okay, it off.
Speaker 3: Until I brought it up. I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we haven't talked much about And this used to
Speaker 2: be a responsibility of mine when I was with the
Speaker 2: Cowboys back all the way back in two thousand and five.
Speaker 2: And now Todd Williams and out of Pacific and those guys,
Speaker 2: they do a good job of this. And this is
Speaker 2: the trading up and trading back. You've heard about the
Speaker 2: trade charts and stuff like that, and I've worked up
Speaker 2: some as here where I've taken the chart and I'm
Speaker 2: going to try and take you back to a couple
Speaker 2: of places. I got a few places I want to
Speaker 2: take you back to. First off, Nick, you're interested in
Speaker 2: going back, aren't you? Right? Very much?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So going into this draft for you, if
Speaker 2: you were sitting in the war room, you would be
Speaker 2: let's move no matter what.
Speaker 8: Guy.
Speaker 7: Not necessarily. There's two guys.
Speaker 6: I would take a twenty four okay, Graham Barton if
Speaker 6: he were to follow twenty four.
Speaker 7: Okay, and Troy Fatanu if he were to follow twenty four.
Speaker 6: Okay, if either of those guys or if both of
Speaker 6: those guys are off the board getting on the phones.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I show you interested in you. You're kind of
Speaker 2: the same way. It has to be maybe a guy
Speaker 2: or two that you really like, or are you interested
Speaker 2: in trying to recoup a pick or two as we
Speaker 2: go along here?
Speaker 5: No, I mean I agree, I think it has to
Speaker 5: be a guy that I really like. But also too,
Speaker 5: I think if you have the opportunity we've talked about,
Speaker 5: if you have the opportunity to get into that fourth
Speaker 5: round and any way, then.
Speaker 9: That you need to do it. It's just the way
Speaker 9: this board is and how top heavy it is.
Speaker 5: It's just hard to believe that there's not going to
Speaker 5: be so much value there on some players we really
Speaker 5: like in that fourth round.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. I think. You're both right about this.
Speaker 2: I my plan would be going in I would have
Speaker 2: if if I was running the draft, I would have
Speaker 2: my pro guys on the phones right now, throwing chum
Speaker 2: in the water. I'm trying to get people interested, like listen, hey,
Speaker 2: we're we're here for business. We're open. You got my number.
Speaker 2: You know, if you're thinking about moving up, come on
Speaker 2: here we are you know, don't don't don't feel like
Speaker 2: you have to go ahead of us, you know, if
Speaker 2: you need if your guys there, But let me ask
Speaker 2: you another thing. As we look at this draft, and
Speaker 2: another reason why we might need to bail other than
Speaker 2: getting the picks, I'm getting a vibe that all these
Speaker 2: offensive players are going to go early.
Speaker 3: In this draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, is the best player on our board potentially
Speaker 2: going to be a defensive guy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's that's what reality thinks.
Speaker 6: So you look at you look at the edge rushers
Speaker 6: that you could probably probably expect to come off.
Speaker 7: In the twenties. Yeah, if li all to Law two falls.
Speaker 6: To that shut range, you got Chop Robinson, you got
Speaker 6: Darius Robinson. There's a lot of different guys that I
Speaker 6: think could be there in the twenties. But do you
Speaker 6: are you saying would you take that defensive guy if.
Speaker 2: He is That's what I'm That's what I'm asking you, guys. Yeah,
Speaker 2: because you know, you guys have told You've got me
Speaker 2: convinced that you know, hey, we've got to fix this
Speaker 2: offensive line one way or another. We've got to find
Speaker 2: a way a tackle. We've got an option to tackle.
Speaker 2: We can move our guy. You know that's not you know,
Speaker 2: not very good. You're not a fan of that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you know you might get over voted in the room.
Speaker 7: I'm okay with it. It's just not my preference.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: So we're so we're but you know that might be
Speaker 2: a possibility. You know, we're all kind of thinking about
Speaker 2: the center. Our centers are a little banged up though,
Speaker 2: you know, but we're looking at him. The thing that
Speaker 2: I'm starting to hear more and more and more is
Speaker 2: all these quarterbacks go, some of these receivers go, these
Speaker 2: offensive lineming go. We might be at twenty four looking
Speaker 2: at a defensive player that that all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: now we're comfortable taking our BYU offensive tackle at twenty four.
Speaker 2: You know, we that might be where we're at. We
Speaker 2: might be stuck. We might be stuck where all those
Speaker 2: all those offensive players are gone and now we're looking
Speaker 2: at defensive guys as the best player, right.
Speaker 9: I mean, for me, listen, I know, like I know.
Speaker 5: Bobby feels feels very strongly about not getting another DT. Yeah, early,
Speaker 5: but just the way that DT typically falls where you know,
Speaker 5: they typically aren't off the board into some of that
Speaker 5: that twenty range or whatever. If I see Byron Murphy
Speaker 5: is there, I don't know if I'm not gonna skip
Speaker 5: over that.
Speaker 9: I don't know if I'm just.
Speaker 5: Gonna be like, no, I'm cool on him or whatever.
Speaker 5: This d you don't have depth at the defensive interior
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 9: It's a problem. Even on the offensive side. You've brought
Speaker 9: it up. You have brock k Hoffmann, you do have
Speaker 9: a TJ.
Speaker 5: Bass, you do have an awesome Richards that maybe you
Speaker 5: just don't know everything from you just yet, but you
Speaker 5: do have guys on the offense. Maybe you ain't got
Speaker 5: that over there on defense right now, and you've lost
Speaker 5: a lot of depth at edge. To you guys's point
Speaker 5: about there maybe being a defensive player there that you're
Speaker 5: interested in.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and I understand Bobby's points to the fact of
Speaker 6: Bayern Murphy being a three tech and you don't need
Speaker 6: a three tech necessarily in this draft overall, much less
Speaker 6: with the very first pick that you take. So with
Speaker 6: that in mind, would y'all be okay with Darius Robinson.
Speaker 6: I mean, he's a guy that I was about to
Speaker 6: say him He's a guy that could play from three
Speaker 6: to seven. He's very versatile, he's two hundred and eighty pounds,
Speaker 6: he's a great run defender. If that's what ends up happening,
Speaker 6: where all the offensive linemen are off the board, you
Speaker 6: don't feel comfortable with who's available, maybe you've traded back
Speaker 6: into that twenty eight to thirty two range.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you take Darius Robinson. How do you feel
Speaker 7: about that?
Speaker 3: Compan Yeah?
Speaker 10: I like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm with you. No, go ahead, quick, No, I.
Speaker 5: Like it because to your point, the versatility, and I
Speaker 5: think you do need that on the defensive line right now,
Speaker 5: especially with some of the losses that you've taken at
Speaker 5: the edge position and things like that. Now, I understand
Speaker 5: that Byron Murphy is considered a three tech.
Speaker 9: I also think.
Speaker 2: That you've seen him play some one two haven't.
Speaker 5: Yes, I think he's capable, But I also do consider
Speaker 5: who these guys are playing next to. Yeah, and when
Speaker 5: you're playing next to Homie Jesus, Like, when you're playing.
Speaker 9: Next to what is the guy playing next to him?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean you're gonna be able to do some
Speaker 5: more three techy things because people are having to commit
Speaker 5: to double team in him and having to deal with him.
Speaker 9: So I do think I.
Speaker 5: Would be I was literally about to just bring him up.
Speaker 5: I would be okay with Darius Robinson as well, because
Speaker 5: of the versatility.
Speaker 2: All Right, potentially with all these keep an eye on this,
Speaker 2: with all these offensive players, maybe going ahead of you,
Speaker 2: you might be wiped out thinking about that. You know,
Speaker 2: you might be looking at when they's so let's trade back,
Speaker 2: Let's try. Okay, Tampa Bay is on the phone with
Speaker 2: us right now. Tampa Bay currently sits at twenty six.
Speaker 2: Tampa Bay's picked that we would pick up just for
Speaker 2: that small two slot move that they made, we would
Speaker 2: pick up their one tw twenty five, which is a
Speaker 2: fourth round pick. Again, this is working off the Cowboys
Speaker 2: charts and stuff like that. Okay, So just to start
Speaker 2: it off, that's maybe an offer that we look at.
Speaker 2: Right there, we pick up one twenty five, So we
Speaker 2: cool with that. We got our fourth round pick.
Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, I'm cool with a nick.
Speaker 6: It's only because I'm looking at the other offers out here,
Speaker 6: so I'm gonna wait until you're you're finished going through them.
Speaker 2: Right, Okay, that's that's what get That's where we just
Speaker 2: start that's our start. Yeah, Arizona now calls us at
Speaker 2: twenty seven, we pick up one thirty eight and one
Speaker 2: sixty two, both fifth round picks. We interested in that
Speaker 2: one at all. We didn't get our four. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: now we're now after the Arizona. If we did the
Speaker 2: Arizona trade, we pick up their picks. Like I say,
Speaker 2: you now would have twenty seven, fifty six, eighty seven,
Speaker 2: one thirty eight, one sixty two, one seventy four, two sixteen,
Speaker 2: two thirty three, two forty four.
Speaker 3: That would be your draft haul.
Speaker 2: If you traded by picking up both fifths from Arizona,
Speaker 2: that would be going from twenty four to twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna I'm gonna throw something out here. You
Speaker 2: give me these multiple fives. Yeah, watch me try and
Speaker 2: move these things going back up. Yeah, okay, and we'll
Speaker 2: get into that.
Speaker 3: Okay, We okay with that deal? We would would we
Speaker 3: consider that deal?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I definitely, because as it sits right now, eighty
Speaker 6: seven is your third round pick, right, and you don't
Speaker 6: pick until one seventy four in the fifth and you
Speaker 6: can kind of divvy that in half and you get
Speaker 6: two picks in between.
Speaker 7: I'm okay, with that.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's pick I issue. We get picked one thirty eight,
Speaker 2: which is a fifth, and pick one sixty two plus
Speaker 2: our own fifths, so we're gonna have three fifths, is
Speaker 2: what we're gonna do with that Arizona traite.
Speaker 9: You said you're gonna try and flip them.
Speaker 7: Watch me, Okay, well watch me.
Speaker 5: I mean I would definitely be I would be willing
Speaker 5: to listening to it because to your point, like the
Speaker 5: way the way that I really do think that the
Speaker 5: start of that day too is going to be crazy
Speaker 5: as far as the fourth and the fifth round, because
Speaker 5: I just do.
Speaker 9: I do.
Speaker 5: I think some of these wide receivers are gonna fall,
Speaker 5: are gonna be there, and then when you talk about
Speaker 5: some of the offensive line value, I do think that
Speaker 5: some of those guys are still gonna be there too.
Speaker 5: So I would I would flip the fifth. I would
Speaker 5: be open to that.
Speaker 9: I like the Tampa Bay situation.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's what it's gonna ask. That's what's gonna ask.
Speaker 2: The Tampa Bay situation still is the ones that's intriguing
Speaker 2: to us because we get the fourth round pick.
Speaker 5: Right, but the fifths are to your point, though, you
Speaker 5: can do something with the fifth.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we could Nic will find me some players
Speaker 3: in this one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of value there.
Speaker 6: No, there is, there is especially there in the fifth.
Speaker 6: It depends on what you need going into day three.
Speaker 6: But I also like the idea of packaging those and
Speaker 6: moving up in the third or something like that. I
Speaker 6: personally like the Arizona went a little bit more.
Speaker 2: As of now, I shued Buffalo's on the phone now
Speaker 2: at twenty eight. If you trade with Buffalo, you're gonna
Speaker 2: go from twenty four to twenty eight. You're gonna pick
Speaker 2: up a fourth. You're gonna pick up pick one twenty
Speaker 2: eight fourth round pick and pick one forty four, which
Speaker 2: is a fifth. You make the Buffalo trade, you're now
Speaker 2: looking at twenty eight, fifty six, eighty seven, one twenty eight,
Speaker 2: one forty four, one seventy four, two sixteen, two thirty three,
Speaker 2: two forty four.
Speaker 3: That's after the Buffalo trade.
Speaker 2: So you pick up that middle, you pick up that
Speaker 2: fourth one twenty eight and pick one forty four. That
Speaker 2: gives you your fourth, and then now you're looking at
Speaker 2: two fives.
Speaker 6: Quick question, how comfortable are y'all? Where's your comfort level
Speaker 6: as far as where does it end. Whenever you're saying, okay,
Speaker 6: cowboys are trading back, how far back do you want
Speaker 6: to go? Before you started getting start getting uncomfortable with it?
Speaker 2: The problem I'm the problem I'm running into is right
Speaker 2: now is if I'm starting to feel like that that
Speaker 2: maybe my guy's not going to be on the board
Speaker 2: at twenty, I mean I might have to really, I
Speaker 2: might have to. I'm willing to really bail. I'm going
Speaker 2: to take this thing all the way to Kansas City.
Speaker 3: Yeah, at thirty two.
Speaker 7: I'm okay with taking it to the second round even Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: I did for our exercise. I did it just to
Speaker 3: get to thirty two.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 9: Can I explain what that means? What I'm saying right now?
Speaker 2: When when you when like when you're taking this thing back,
Speaker 2: like maybe your player's not there. I'm comfortable going, I
Speaker 2: think Nick as well as comfortable going all the way
Speaker 2: back to Kansas City's pick at thirty two and trying
Speaker 2: to pick up as many of these picks because like
Speaker 2: to see the Buffalo trades inviting to me just because
Speaker 2: of the fourth round pick we pick up and the
Speaker 2: fifth round pick as well. So I'm not going too
Speaker 2: terribly far. I'm going four players back, So okay, and
Speaker 2: that's a really good question. Are you worried?
Speaker 3: How far back are you willing to go? Are you? Because?
Speaker 2: To me, I think there is some value after say
Speaker 2: and that's why some of these trades, like twenty six,
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty eight, I feel like going back
Speaker 2: that just that little bit you still pick up good
Speaker 2: but I still feel like I'm going to get a
Speaker 2: really good player there. Ye too, Yeah, I feel like that,
Speaker 2: you know, And I feel like I could go all
Speaker 2: the way to I think I could go all the
Speaker 2: way to Kansas City at thirty two and potentially grab
Speaker 2: the right guy that I want. I mean, we are
Speaker 2: we agreement on that or agree?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: There is see to me, I don't feel like so
Speaker 2: far that we've had a trade that we wouldn't accept.
Speaker 7: Yeah, right, yeah, I haven't.
Speaker 5: I'm interested in all of them. The Buffalo one is
Speaker 5: really appealing though.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, do you have anybody in mind when
Speaker 2: if you were to go to twenty eight?
Speaker 3: Do you have somebody in.
Speaker 7: Mind to twenty eight? Specifically?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it would that would be a Kingsley Suamatia situation.
Speaker 6: And Morgan situation. Sure, Tyler Guidon's still there twenty eight.
Speaker 6: I mean, you're still gonna have offensive lineman there. Let's
Speaker 6: say the offensive linemen are off the board A or B.
Speaker 6: They don't like those guys sitting there on the board
Speaker 6: at that at that time, then you have the opportunity
Speaker 6: to take Darius Robinson or if you want to go
Speaker 6: ahead and get that linebacker just grab Edgeran Cooper.
Speaker 7: That's why I think I would.
Speaker 6: Be okay with if they ended up going all the
Speaker 6: way back into like the first five picks up the
Speaker 6: second round, even because they can still get that linebacker
Speaker 6: to open up Day two and then they're probably picking
Speaker 6: up two to three picks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, that would be That.
Speaker 7: Would be fascinating.
Speaker 9: If the isn't just go receiver.
Speaker 7: Brian Thomas Junior.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's a it's a thought, it's
Speaker 2: a thought.
Speaker 6: I will say there's gonna be a lot of hype
Speaker 6: around Brian Thomas Junior and Xavier Mitchell and potentially at
Speaker 6: excuse me.
Speaker 7: Mitchell.
Speaker 6: I think there's going to be a lot of hype
Speaker 6: around those names. As as the night one starts to
Speaker 6: kind of slide slide off and the slide off the board.
Speaker 6: There's gonna be a lot of talk around those guys.
Speaker 6: Somebody's gonna take a take a swing on one of
Speaker 6: those guys there late in those late in the first round.
Speaker 9: Have a Do you have a one on lab Maconky.
Speaker 2: I do not.
Speaker 3: I have a two?
Speaker 9: Have a two as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I've seen him at the end of the
Speaker 3: first round.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've seen a lot of San Francisco, Kansas City,
Speaker 2: those those teams are kind of talking about. Okay, Baltimore's
Speaker 2: on the phone, Aisha, they're gonna a lawst I'm skipping
Speaker 2: Detroit because Detroit doesn't have the capital to do it.
Speaker 2: Detroit would have to give next to your pick, So
Speaker 2: I'm gonna skip them. Okay, if you go now to
Speaker 2: the Baltimore trade of this, Baltimore's on the phone and uh, Baltimore,
Speaker 2: they're gonna give you. They're gonna give you just pick.
Speaker 2: They're gonna give you a third round pick. They're gonna
Speaker 2: give you pick ninety three. So now what you do
Speaker 2: is you have your current configuration, but you've added another three,
Speaker 2: so that gives you you're going to thirty, the fifty six,
Speaker 2: the eighty seven, ninety three and one, seventy four, two sixteen,
Speaker 2: two thirty three, two forty four. Okay, the key with
Speaker 2: the pick ninety three, that's the end of the third
Speaker 2: round top one hundred. That gets us in the top
Speaker 2: one hundred, but it also lets us since we're missing
Speaker 2: out on that four for the next day, we get
Speaker 2: first crack. We get first crack at that, right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: So how would we consider that? Is that important enough
Speaker 2: to you guys? The Baltimore trade, we're gonna go to thirty,
Speaker 2: but we're going to pick before the start of day three.
Speaker 2: Where's that on the level of comfort for you guys?
Speaker 6: I think I like the Buffalo trade just a little
Speaker 6: bit more, just because there's more capital there with fourth
Speaker 6: and fifth as opposed to just getting the third.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but I'd be just.
Speaker 6: Fine with it at the end of the day picking
Speaker 6: up another top one hundred pick. That's that's a huge
Speaker 6: value in its own right.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean I'm one of the people that thinks that,
Speaker 5: you know, do they have the ability to go tackle?
Speaker 12: Yeah?
Speaker 5: But I think the guard class is that that's where
Speaker 5: the third round is where the third the guard class
Speaker 5: to me is rich, still kind of rich in that area.
Speaker 5: So if you ended up grabbing like I don't know,
Speaker 5: I don't know, if I don't know, if Homie mixing
Speaker 5: in the third round, but if you end up grabbing
Speaker 5: like a Christian mahogani er, yeah, that too, you can
Speaker 5: you can tackle that in the third round. And then
Speaker 5: also two from even a linebacker perspective, if you were
Speaker 5: to go linebacker the third round and now's later third
Speaker 5: round area, that's where it's still kind of it still
Speaker 5: still has some value, Like there's some guys there that
Speaker 5: maybe you if you have if you have the opportunity
Speaker 5: to double dip, you can kill two birds with one
Speaker 5: stone by having that third So but I do I
Speaker 5: think the Buffalo one is the best one so far too.
Speaker 9: Though.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're gonna take our break here, and when we
Speaker 2: come back, I want to finish up because San Francisco
Speaker 2: and Kansas City also call.
Speaker 3: I want to finish this up.
Speaker 2: And then we're gonna then we're gonna turn around and
Speaker 2: we're gonna trade back up. We're gonna take this draft
Speaker 2: draft capital, We're gonna pick which one of these things want.
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about trading back up and see
Speaker 2: if we can and can get back into this thing
Speaker 2: and and and do some good things.
Speaker 3: And then when that's all.
Speaker 2: Done, we'll we'll move the Twitter questions to the back
Speaker 2: end and catch all that. So you got the draft show,
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Speaker 5: I so, y'all, Like I struggle with like, you're great hypotheticals.
Speaker 9: I'm ready to get to the.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's trade a couple more of these picks
Speaker 2: if we can. All right, We've we've talked about all righty.
Speaker 2: We traded with or talked about trades with Tampa, Arizona, Buffalo,
Speaker 2: and Baltimore the before I went to break. The Baltimore
Speaker 2: and San Francisco deals are very similar because Baltimore traded
Speaker 2: you picked ninety three, which was a third round pick,
Speaker 2: and now San Francisco is offering pick ninety four, which
Speaker 2: is a third round pick. So if you're considering the
Speaker 2: Baltimore or San Francisco trades, they're virtually the same pick,
Speaker 2: with the exception of one spot different both third round picks,
Speaker 2: So that something to consider.
Speaker 3: You get Baltimore on the phone.
Speaker 2: You get San Francisco on the phone, you would probably
Speaker 2: take the Baltimore trade because it's one pick better in
Speaker 2: the third round.
Speaker 5: Ye, not doing nothing, not helping you, sanfrid.
Speaker 2: Not helping, not helping at all. All Right, Kansas City's
Speaker 2: on the clock. Or excuse me, Kansas City is going
Speaker 2: to call Yaisha, They're going to offer you. They're going
Speaker 2: to offer you pick ninety five and pick one thirty one,
Speaker 2: which is a fourth round pick, so you get you're
Speaker 2: in that range. We talked about ninety two, excuse me,
Speaker 2: ninety three, ninety four, ninety five, which again ends the
Speaker 2: ends the second day, which I think is key because
Speaker 2: but Kansas City's called and they said, hey, we'll let
Speaker 2: you in the second day, but we'll also let you
Speaker 2: in the end of the fourth round.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So now by going from twenty four to thirty two,
Speaker 2: all right, Nick, tell me you still got some players
Speaker 2: in range for you.
Speaker 9: Yes, he got excited.
Speaker 7: Ok, I'm your trade. You want to trade second round?
Speaker 2: You keep saying that, Okay, we'll work on that another day. No,
Speaker 2: but I'm okay with this. I think this is the
Speaker 2: best commander's trade. Sound like a good one too. If
Speaker 2: you want to pick up a bunch of picks.
Speaker 6: Yeah, no kidding, you talk about capital and top one
Speaker 6: hundred picky, then get dan Quin on the phone and
Speaker 6: strike a deal. But I think this Kansas City trade,
Speaker 6: if you want to stay in the first round, I
Speaker 6: think there will still be some good offensive linemen available
Speaker 6: there at thirty two, and you also kind of have
Speaker 6: the freedom to take again the linebacker or an edge rusher,
Speaker 6: or if you want.
Speaker 7: To jump on anything else.
Speaker 6: I think thirty two still makes to be able to
Speaker 6: do that for the guys that you would expect to
Speaker 6: be available from.
Speaker 7: Let's just stay at twenty two.
Speaker 6: The guys you would expect to be available from twenty
Speaker 6: two to thirty two. I feel like you can get
Speaker 6: any of those guys in that range because you look
Speaker 6: at the teams that are picking in that range. Right
Speaker 6: you look at the Tampa Bays and Detroit. Those guys
Speaker 6: are going to be focusing on defensive lineman. Sure, if
Speaker 6: you want to get a defensive lineman, then maybe you
Speaker 6: pick somewhere in between them. But you look at Baltimore,
Speaker 6: San Francisco, Kansas City, Detroit, even you can make the
Speaker 6: argument receiver hunting. These guys are receiver hunting, and the
Speaker 6: Cowboys necessarily, I know there's some mocks out there that
Speaker 6: have them taken a receiver here in the first round.
Speaker 6: I don't think the receiver hunting in the first round.
Speaker 6: So I think you could still slide back. Those teams
Speaker 6: are taking different positions and probably what you're expecting will
Speaker 6: maybe one or two offensive lineman can come off the board. Yeah,
Speaker 6: but I think you have to be comfortable in doing that,
Speaker 6: and I think you would be yeah cool.
Speaker 5: I mean to Knick's point, I do think there's gonna
Speaker 5: be some value there. So it's just these quarterbacks are
Speaker 5: going to go. We're going to see a run on tackles.
Speaker 5: I'm sure there's going to be some value there, especially
Speaker 5: if you're talking about from an offensive standpoint, right, I
Speaker 5: think that offensively a lot to you point to your point,
Speaker 5: A lot of those guys are going to go. If
Speaker 5: you want to go defense and you have a first
Speaker 5: round round, great on a guy. I venture to say
Speaker 5: that they're going to be there towards the end of
Speaker 5: these rounds.
Speaker 9: So yeah, all.
Speaker 2: Right, of all the ones that we dealt with, and
Speaker 2: let me let me let me just maybe put in
Speaker 2: put into perspective what the situation. We look at point
Speaker 2: point totals on our chart, and each pick is a
Speaker 2: signed of value. If you were to make the Tampa
Speaker 2: Bay trade, your total draft haul but everything that you
Speaker 2: had would be four hundred and two points. The next
Speaker 2: most positive trade for you would be the Kansas City
Speaker 2: trade at four oh one. If you added up all
Speaker 2: the points, the value of all your picks, the Kansas
Speaker 2: City trade would make you at four oh one. The
Speaker 2: next two tie that would be Arizona at four hundred,
Speaker 2: Buffalo at four hundred, the one that has the next
Speaker 2: most value to it with Baltimore at three ninety seven,
Speaker 2: and the San Francisco trade only gets you three ninety.
Speaker 2: So if you just added up all the draft of
Speaker 2: the trade, the Tampa one makes the most sense. You
Speaker 2: don't get the most draft capital, but you get the
Speaker 2: fourth round pick you were hunting, Okay.
Speaker 6: And you're picking six spots earlier than Kansas City? Who
Speaker 6: would be the right next?
Speaker 10: Right?
Speaker 2: So is there any is there all the trades we've
Speaker 2: gone through, is there anyone that really you'd say, Okay,
Speaker 2: get that GM on the phone, and let's make this
Speaker 2: trade Kansas City.
Speaker 5: I was about to say it would be I just
Speaker 5: think there's just so much we're going to look up
Speaker 5: in that third and fourth round, and we're gonna be
Speaker 5: giddy about the players that are still there and are
Speaker 5: still available in those rounds, and I think being able
Speaker 5: to take advantage of that would be really I think
Speaker 5: it would be very helpful going into that last day
Speaker 5: of the draft and knowing what the heck you got.
Speaker 3: Okay, so you guys are interested in going all the
Speaker 3: way down to the thirty two?
Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, sure?
Speaker 2: Any any you're not sure you should?
Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I'm sure, but I still really I
Speaker 5: still was really intrigued by the Buffalo thing too, though,
Speaker 5: And I know that it's not like the best on
Speaker 5: the points system, but I just.
Speaker 2: Let me walk you through. Then, let me walk you
Speaker 2: through this. Then all right, let me go through these
Speaker 2: various deals, and then we're going to take what picks
Speaker 2: we got, and I'm going to go through each team
Speaker 2: that we had an opportunity, and I'm going to try
Speaker 2: and trade up. And you guys, tell me if if
Speaker 2: it works out for you by using the selections that
Speaker 2: we had plus the picks that we got, tell me
Speaker 2: which which one of these deals seems to work the
Speaker 2: best for you?
Speaker 7: Okay?
Speaker 2: After the Arizona trade, I mentioned this Aisha, we got picks.
Speaker 2: We got one thirty eight, one sixty two, one seventy
Speaker 2: four all fifth round picks.
Speaker 3: I'm taking those and I'm calling the LA Chargers. The
Speaker 3: LA Chargers have.
Speaker 2: Two picks in the fourth round. They have picked one
Speaker 2: oh five and pick one ten, both fourth round picks,
Speaker 2: both early in the fourth round. Nick interested in moving
Speaker 2: one thirty eight, one sixty two, one seventy four all
Speaker 2: fifth round picks for one oh five or one ten?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, uh well it's one O five or one ten.
Speaker 6: I was right, it's one, O, five and one.
Speaker 2: No, No, it's one or Yeah, you're gonna.
Speaker 6: Be probably staying home. I'm probably staying home there. I
Speaker 6: don't I don't love three for one in that situation.
Speaker 6: Just to go up one one round on day three.
Speaker 6: I think you could still get value there in the
Speaker 6: fifth with with those three picks.
Speaker 7: It'd be tough, but I'd probably say.
Speaker 12: No to that.
Speaker 2: I ashual, I get you your fourth round pick, but
Speaker 2: I got to give up three to get there. Three
Speaker 2: three draft picks.
Speaker 9: No, but you ain't. You ain't got the luxury in
Speaker 9: this draft. You can't be playing these games all right?
Speaker 6: If if that were to happen, Let's say you get
Speaker 6: one oh five, Yeah, you're not picking again until two,
Speaker 6: two thirty three to sixteen.
Speaker 5: You know how painful it's gonna be to just sit
Speaker 5: there and wait to see what happens.
Speaker 7: We're gonna be doing that on day three regardless.
Speaker 2: I think think, but think about think about the think
Speaker 2: about the situation though, with the number, the first four
Speaker 2: picks that you get.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's that's fair.
Speaker 5: So you could be so you think they would be
Speaker 5: chilling if they get they get some guys that they
Speaker 5: think are potential starters right away, and.
Speaker 2: Then you just you got a shot to get four
Speaker 2: players before one o five, by by by one oh five.
Speaker 6: I think it depends how much value put into quantity
Speaker 6: over quality or vice versa, and the.
Speaker 3: Strike r eves get big becr.
Speaker 5: That's a lot. First of all, that's a lot of
Speaker 5: people to be able to pick up.
Speaker 9: Yeah, in the top one hundred.
Speaker 2: All right, So we're not interested in that one buffalo.
Speaker 2: If we did the Buffalo trade, we would we would
Speaker 2: take we would take pick one twenty eight it's a
Speaker 2: fourth round pick. We would take one forty four, both
Speaker 2: those picks we got if that's a fifth, so we
Speaker 2: take a four and a five. We call New England
Speaker 2: for pick one oh three, which is the top of
Speaker 2: the fourth round, or we can go back to our
Speaker 2: buddies at the Chargers at one oh five or one
Speaker 2: ten for a fourth. So we're taking our fourth round
Speaker 2: pick one twenty eight, and we're gonna dance that thing
Speaker 2: up to one oh three to New England, but the
Speaker 2: price of it's going to cost us our fifth interested
Speaker 2: in that guys, or we can go to the Chargers
Speaker 2: with the same deal.
Speaker 6: Question, are we comparing this to all of the trades
Speaker 6: or is this like a very like individual in a
Speaker 6: vacuum type type situation with Buffalo?
Speaker 7: Yeah, which one?
Speaker 8: Is it?
Speaker 3: The vacuums?
Speaker 7: Vacuum?
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, if it's in a vacuum, because I'm not
Speaker 6: gonna have to Kansas City trade.
Speaker 7: I'm like, well, you have a third and fourth.
Speaker 6: But if it's in a vacuum and Buffalo is the
Speaker 6: only one that's that's made that call to you in
Speaker 6: the first round and you're trying to pack your those around,
Speaker 6: I'm okay with I'm okay with it because you're you're
Speaker 6: getting an a top one hundred. Yeah, and sure you
Speaker 6: got to give up the fifth, but you're basically just
Speaker 6: moving up to the to one o three to grab
Speaker 6: a guy early on day three.
Speaker 7: I'm fine with it. I'm fine with it.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna dance you from one twenty eight in the
Speaker 2: fourth to one oh three. I'm gonna take you twenty
Speaker 2: five spots up to start the day of day three.
Speaker 3: That's gonna cost you a fifth round pick. I have
Speaker 3: a feeling I know what she's gonna say.
Speaker 5: I mean, no, I'm I'm I mean, listen, I'm indecisive.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think about the fifth round.
Speaker 9: Do they have it? They have a fifth round pick?
Speaker 6: Right, it still would you You still would have the
Speaker 6: fifth of one s so you.
Speaker 5: Still would have a pick even if you did this
Speaker 5: and move up to the right.
Speaker 3: I'm just trying to get you higher up the board.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get you.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you twenty five spots up to take
Speaker 2: your guy to start Day three.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean yeah, when we started getting into that
Speaker 5: fifth round, you know, that's that's when it that U
Speaker 5: Dallas Day and Audus stuff coming. They started looking at
Speaker 5: the under after free just what they about to pay them.
Speaker 9: So I would be cool with that. I would be
Speaker 9: cool with.
Speaker 5: You because I think that they'll have some things figured
Speaker 5: out on the back end post draft to get some
Speaker 5: of those guys that maybe didn't get drafted, like a TJ. Bass,
Speaker 5: who I thought was a fifth round pick last year
Speaker 5: at the feast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like what you're saying.
Speaker 2: All right, this once again Nick, for you, Nick Baltimore,
Speaker 2: if you did the Baltimore.
Speaker 3: Trade, just say you did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be you would send pick eighty seven,
Speaker 2: which is your own, and then pick ninety three that
Speaker 2: you got from Baltimore. I'm gonna call Green Bay and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna try and get their second round pick pick
Speaker 2: fifty eight or the Houston Texans pick fifty nine. So
Speaker 2: I'm giving my own third round pick and I'm given
Speaker 2: the Baltimore third round pick to Green Bay at fifty
Speaker 2: eight or Houston at fifty nine to get in the
Speaker 2: second round. So I'm giving up my two to go
Speaker 2: up into the second round pick fifty eight or fifteen.
Speaker 6: Imagine not picking from fifty eight to one seventy four.
Speaker 6: That would be that would be torture for us in here,
Speaker 6: at least think about the quality.
Speaker 3: Of the player.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's where I'm thinking about here, because you
Speaker 6: get to you get three picks in the top fifty
Speaker 6: eight to fifty nine. Yeah, but yeah, nothing in the third,
Speaker 6: nothing in the fourth, and then you basically have to
Speaker 6: watch the entire fifth go by before you finally get
Speaker 6: that fifth round. Com pick ummm. I'm staying put with
Speaker 6: what I got, And that's the situation. Yeah, So we're
Speaker 6: not we're not interested in doing that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, pick no, especially not in the second round.
Speaker 2: The same thing we could have done to San Francisco.
Speaker 2: It's the same trade we could if San Francisco. If
Speaker 2: we took the San Francisco.
Speaker 5: Deal, then hurry up and wait, it's gonna hurt all.
Speaker 2: Right, man, I'm glad you guys want to just sit
Speaker 2: here and pick. I mean, how is your bored? You're
Speaker 2: bored then by what you guys are telling me. Your
Speaker 2: stacks and your boards are deep enough that you're like, nah, Brian,
Speaker 2: and I can't. You can't entice me with a second
Speaker 2: round pick right now. You can't entice me with a
Speaker 2: third round pick right now. Do you have that much
Speaker 2: confidence in your boards that you were gonna just pick
Speaker 2: players and you're gonna help this football team.
Speaker 6: I have a lot of confidence until it gets to
Speaker 6: about one to twenty. That's that's kind of like where
Speaker 6: I'm pinpointing as far as Okay, I'd like to find
Speaker 6: value in one twenty, So what is that?
Speaker 7: That would be mid fourth round.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you can pick up more picks in that range,
Speaker 6: I'm cool with it. And but if you're sacrificing you know,
Speaker 6: that sixty to one twenty range, I don't know. I
Speaker 6: still feel like there's some really good talent there on
Speaker 6: that back half. I would love to be able to grab.
Speaker 5: I think the early second has some guys that can
Speaker 5: come in and be difference makers right away. Even so,
Speaker 5: so I and also to this team just gets a
Speaker 5: little funky in the second round. So I don't want
Speaker 5: them doing a whole bunch of extra stuff if they
Speaker 5: ain't got to do.
Speaker 2: Me so at these adding the Green Bay pick in
Speaker 2: the second or adding that Houston pick.
Speaker 5: Don't over complicate ite, all right, we aim to everybody
Speaker 5: seems to like the Kansas City trade.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's the one.
Speaker 3: All right, that's the one that we went into thinking that.
Speaker 2: Okay, if Kansas City called and said Andy Reid called
Speaker 2: us and.
Speaker 3: Said, hey, we were interested in doing this, this is
Speaker 3: what we would do.
Speaker 2: All right, after the kan Sea trade, we made it.
Speaker 2: We've got picked ninety five, which is a third round pick.
Speaker 2: We've got pick one thirty one, which is a fourth Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call Vegas at seventy seven, which is a
Speaker 2: third round pick. So I'm gonna try and go from
Speaker 2: ninety five to seventy seven or seventy eight, which is
Speaker 2: the Commanders in the third round. But it's gonna cost
Speaker 2: me my fourth round pick. Pick one thirty.
Speaker 7: One, say one more time for me.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, no problem, not the numbers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Kansas City.
Speaker 2: After the kan Sea trade, I'm gonna move pick ninety
Speaker 2: five that we got it's a third round, and pick
Speaker 2: one thirty one, which is a fourth round which we got.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna call Las Vegas and I'm trying to get
Speaker 2: picked seventy seven, which is a third round pick, or
Speaker 2: pick seventy eight from the Commanders, which is a third
Speaker 2: round pick. Would you be interested in going up to
Speaker 2: seventy seven or seventy eight for R ninety five and
Speaker 2: giving up our fourth round one thirty one.
Speaker 7: What do you expect to fly off the board late
Speaker 7: round three?
Speaker 6: Is that probably where you hope that McKinley Jackson doesn't
Speaker 6: fall off the board, or if you're still linebacker hunting,
Speaker 6: you're hoping Trevin Wallace doesn't fall off the board. I
Speaker 6: think this depends on what you need there in late
Speaker 6: round three, because let's say it's gone to plan. You've
Speaker 6: got an offensive lineman and you right Jonathan Brooks in
Speaker 6: the second round, then you're probably you are going to
Speaker 6: be hunting for a run stopper, whether that's linebacker, defensive tackle.
Speaker 6: If you expect them to fly off the board they're
Speaker 6: late in round three, then yeah, I'm making this call.
Speaker 6: But if you're like, hey, there's a group of guys
Speaker 6: here that we enjoy, we feel like we're comfortable with
Speaker 6: getting any of them. Yeah, and I'm staying putting taking
Speaker 6: the extra that's a great.
Speaker 2: That's a great, great thought. What what position though, if
Speaker 2: we were to go up, what position at seventy seven
Speaker 2: or seventy eight do you have in mind?
Speaker 7: Linebacker? Probably?
Speaker 9: Yeah, linebacker for you?
Speaker 7: Yeah, is.
Speaker 2: We're dreaming if Peyton Wilson's.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's definitely I think so, But I mean medicals
Speaker 6: who knows.
Speaker 5: You just never know, because I think we thought, uh
Speaker 5: Beemer told me last in my last show, like we're thinking,
Speaker 5: I'm over thinking to Andre Sweat's gonna fall. I and
Speaker 5: think Duke Duke Dane has him in the fourth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and and and a lot of that is the
Speaker 2: whispers I think the Dane's hearing about the one I mean.
Speaker 5: And of course it's of course his behavioral stuff, but
Speaker 5: you hear some of the stuff about Peyton Wilson.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's it's that scary too. You may be that
Speaker 9: nervous about it.
Speaker 2: Medical is very scary possible.
Speaker 9: I think for him to fall as well. What about
Speaker 9: I don't know. I think Corner's depths depth go a
Speaker 9: lot further.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But I think to nixt point DT is probably
Speaker 5: the biggest thing because I think there's a distinct drop
Speaker 5: off after that third round on talent. There's some a
Speaker 5: few guys sprinkled in there, if you guys sprinkled in there,
Speaker 5: but you will see the difference in the guys coming
Speaker 5: off the board once that's over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, can I interest you guys in the receiver at
Speaker 3: seventy seven?
Speaker 9: You know what, you might be able to twist my
Speaker 9: leg a little bit better.
Speaker 6: There'll be some fun guys there available in the third round.
Speaker 6: I feel like I've been banging on this table. The
Speaker 6: third round is going to be so.
Speaker 3: Much to keep an open mind here, don't we guys?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I think so.
Speaker 6: But in that scenario where you're going offensive line Jonathan Brooks,
Speaker 6: then you go receiver and you have yet to address
Speaker 6: anything on defense going into day three, that's or going
Speaker 6: in not into day three, going into pick eighty seven,
Speaker 6: and that's where you're just like, I don't know.
Speaker 2: Man, Yeah, I just kind of feel like that if
Speaker 2: they could, if they can get in that first pick,
Speaker 2: if they could take care of that offensive line position,
Speaker 2: whether it's the tackle of the center, it would make
Speaker 2: a difference.
Speaker 3: I think I could.
Speaker 2: I think I could keep my options open. I know,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't want to sit in draft for need,
Speaker 2: but you know, I'm probably gonna have to.
Speaker 6: Write yeah, yeah, yeah, you definitely one hundred percent until
Speaker 6: you get to Day three.
Speaker 2: I feel like, can I get my running back at
Speaker 2: seventy seven?
Speaker 7: You could? I think most definitely.
Speaker 6: So let's say in that situation they go ahead and
Speaker 6: take the linebacker in the second round. Yeah, there there
Speaker 6: will be some running backs that'll fly off the board
Speaker 6: there in the third. You're expecting guys like Jalen Wright
Speaker 6: to come off in the third, probably Bucky Irving to come.
Speaker 7: Off in the third.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to phone on running backs. Blake kram Marshawn
Speaker 6: Lloyd will probably come off in the third. So there's
Speaker 6: gonna be some guys there that are just flying flying
Speaker 6: from Braylan Allen audric estimate. And if you start seeing
Speaker 6: those guys really come off the board, yeah, get on
Speaker 6: the phone and go get that running back.
Speaker 2: Okay, what what I'm gathering here is you guys aren't
Speaker 2: excited about making this trade.
Speaker 7: It just depends. It depends what position you need.
Speaker 6: I think, going in the third round, like because you
Speaker 6: could you could sell me on hey, these running backs
Speaker 6: are coming off the board, we need to move up
Speaker 6: twelve spots and go get our guy.
Speaker 7: You could sell me on that one hundred percent.
Speaker 6: But if you're looking at you know, the linebacker, the
Speaker 6: defensive tackle class, it just kind of depends how the
Speaker 6: board's falling at that point.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, I appreciate you guys doing so.
Speaker 7: Yeah, this is fun.
Speaker 2: That was a little trade up trade well actually trade
Speaker 2: back trade up.
Speaker 3: As you can see though, it's it's gonna.
Speaker 2: Come down to a lot of it had to do
Speaker 2: with trying to get either that pick in the late
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Speaker 2: to come from thirty two up to twenty four. My
Speaker 2: guys seemed like that they would be good with that.
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Speaker 3: You like that.
Speaker 2: I kind of moved the show around a little bit.
Speaker 2: We usually we'll do Twitter on the twenty in between,
Speaker 2: but I'm going to get to these questions. I just
Speaker 2: wanted to make sure I had time to get through
Speaker 2: all that trade stuff. And I appreciate you guys. Numbers
Speaker 2: give everybody a headache, you know, at times, and you're
Speaker 2: dealing with them, but I just had to see how
Speaker 2: committed you guys were to picking these players. Sometimes you think,
Speaker 2: you know, scouts have this this way of saying, gimme picks,
Speaker 2: gimme picks, give me picks, give me picks. But you
Speaker 2: got to kind of be able to navigate around to
Speaker 2: kind of get the players you want.
Speaker 5: So what's up now that I don't want to sound
Speaker 5: nothing to nothing but or we're Fabian love It from
Speaker 5: from Florida State is.
Speaker 9: A DT Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yeah, correct, and he's draftable yet correct?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Okay, Well, because we were trying to figure out we were.
Speaker 9: Talking about size. Gods size, he's sixty five three three three.
Speaker 2: Thirty five, right, you're just you're looking for those big one.
Speaker 2: I just didn't see it.
Speaker 5: I just haven't seen. I haven't seen. I just haven't
Speaker 5: seen him. And I didn't know what y'all had him
Speaker 5: labeled as because some people look at him as some
Speaker 5: for some reason, despite his size.
Speaker 9: He could do some d and things. But I know
Speaker 9: that's random. I'm sorry. I didn't mean. I just I
Speaker 9: just thought about, like, looking at DT's that.
Speaker 2: Are talking about him to nine in draft one on one, Yeah,
Speaker 2: bring up them when people ask you, Hey, I should
Speaker 2: give you some big defensive tackles that are three hundred
Speaker 2: and thirty five pounds or plus.
Speaker 5: We're talking about size. It's not a lot of there's
Speaker 5: not a lot of guys that are over.
Speaker 9: Three hundred pounds.
Speaker 5: And he's tall and he's got a little way to him.
Speaker 2: So I was just no, all good man, All good,
Speaker 2: All right, let's get into in our last few moments here.
Speaker 3: Let's get into a little Twitter on the twenty Twitter.
Speaker 2: All right, thank you very much, Beamer for Beamer, thank
Speaker 2: you for all these years of putting up with me.
Speaker 3: I really do appreciate you. Brother. You've been a big
Speaker 3: part of this too.
Speaker 2: It's all good, all right. We got h we got
Speaker 2: red Man red his He's got a hypothetical for you guys, yusuh,
Speaker 2: I know you love hypotheticals.
Speaker 3: Let's say the Cowboys are able to pick.
Speaker 2: Graham Barton as Nick Harris just cartwheels down though. Yeah
Speaker 2: in the first yeah, but but they drafted me in
Speaker 2: the first but they're not able to add a tackle.
Speaker 2: It's the fifth round and Limmer and Norzad are there.
Speaker 2: Would you be willing to pick another center and play
Speaker 2: Barton at garter tackle?
Speaker 7: I like what you're thinking, Red.
Speaker 3: I thought that was a great question.
Speaker 9: Fantastic question. Go ahead, like what.
Speaker 6: You're thinking, Red, I think this would be uh, this
Speaker 6: would be Armagh and in the fan base if you
Speaker 6: didn't get a tackle in the draft, but it would.
Speaker 6: I think there's some there's some options there because you
Speaker 6: can it was either Lema or Norzad there in the
Speaker 6: fifth Yeah, you could. You could try to work those
Speaker 6: guys in at center and you could throw them in
Speaker 6: for competition at center. And understand that Graham Barton does
Speaker 6: have guard flex as well. But if you're if you're
Speaker 6: looking at Graham Barton and you're seeing a guy that
Speaker 6: is probably going to be one of the smartest players
Speaker 6: on the offensive line. I can't say the smartest because
Speaker 6: you have Zach Martin still in the building, but one
Speaker 6: of the players in the smartest players on the offensive line.
Speaker 6: Do you want him manning up that center position and
Speaker 6: calling out things from from the line or are are
Speaker 6: you okay him doing that at left guard and helping
Speaker 6: the guy next to him and then kind of doing
Speaker 6: that in a combo deal you also got Zach Martin there,
Speaker 6: then it would kind of be a committee job. It
Speaker 6: depends how how comfortable Solari is with pre snap communication
Speaker 6: and who he would want being able to being able
Speaker 6: to call things out pre snap.
Speaker 9: Now that's interesting.
Speaker 5: The whole scenario is, and I know we know that
Speaker 5: Graham Barton does have some but to your point, the
Speaker 5: fact that when he plays center, you see how much
Speaker 5: he's talking, how communicative he is, how how much command
Speaker 5: he has, and so it would be different if he
Speaker 5: was just gonna play that guard. And I know the
Speaker 5: fan base would be pissed if if you didn't gave
Speaker 5: a tackle, but you got one of the best ones
Speaker 5: in the NFL right now technically, so it's like.
Speaker 3: The best guards in the league too.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I know, so interesting scenario. It would be
Speaker 5: an interesting scenario. I will say, I know, Brian, you
Speaker 5: brought up last week when we were talking about uh
Speaker 5: maybe it was earlier this week when you're talking about center,
Speaker 5: and that you know, some of those guys that are
Speaker 5: later you don't really have much of an upgrade. I
Speaker 5: think bow Limmer fires off the ball better. I think
Speaker 5: his his attitude and also to I think his anchor
Speaker 5: is stronger than what Tyler biadises was because that was
Speaker 5: one of the biggest things is that you just you
Speaker 5: couldn't see him get to the second level and control blocks.
Speaker 5: But then also too, he just was like losing at
Speaker 5: like initially on the snap. So I wouldn't mind a
Speaker 5: bowl Limmer either if you're gonna go on those later rounds.
Speaker 6: So if they drafted bow Limmer, then they would be
Speaker 6: replacing Tyler Biattish with a native of Tyler, Texas.
Speaker 7: So let's go Bolimmer. Let's to bring him in. Let's
Speaker 7: bring him in.
Speaker 2: He knows way too much, he does way but you
Speaker 2: know what, you know what, in day three we're gonna
Speaker 2: be damn glad we got him.
Speaker 9: Here to shine.
Speaker 7: This kid from Roswell Geordan.
Speaker 3: All right, this comes from Ben Done, Ben Done ask,
Speaker 3: which sounds fake.
Speaker 2: No, it's a real Twitter guy. He's got He's got
Speaker 2: a nice picture, been done. He's got a nice Twitter picture. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've been done. He asked which draft prospect not on
Speaker 2: the Cowboys thirty visit list? Would you want to see
Speaker 2: the Cowboys draft in the first two rounds that also
Speaker 2: fills a positional need?
Speaker 7: Oh, this is a fascinating one unless you first Nick. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: I'm going through. I'm going through the list. Right now.
Speaker 7: Zach Frasier. Yeah, Zach Fraser would be an interesting one.
Speaker 6: If he's there at fifty six or if you're trading
Speaker 6: back into the early second round, that wouldn't be a
Speaker 6: bad guy to pick in the thirties.
Speaker 7: So Zach Frasier, that's.
Speaker 3: The first name that came to came to my mind. Really,
Speaker 3: it was Zach Frazer. Yeah, Zach Frazier. I am like,
Speaker 3: I've got this.
Speaker 2: This center thing in my head that I can't once
Speaker 2: once the first round gets passed, I've got to kind
Speaker 2: of figure out, like, Okay, now what I'm gonna do
Speaker 2: the rest of the draft. I gotta try and do that.
Speaker 3: I do have a center, have a center block, I
Speaker 3: guess is what I'm doing here.
Speaker 9: You have a problem a little bit.
Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I think that I think that that
Speaker 2: Fraser would would make a lot of sense for me.
Speaker 5: I mean, no, they've met with all the linebackers that
Speaker 5: I was even interested in. I don't know, it's gonna
Speaker 5: sound ridiculous, but and again, I don't think that they're
Speaker 5: gonna go corner. But if if if a key On
Speaker 5: Mitchell was there, well Quy Minchell was there or one
Speaker 5: of those guys or Cooper Dejan.
Speaker 9: Was there or something.
Speaker 5: I don't know if I would just be super like
Speaker 5: no no, no, no, no, no, no no about it,
Speaker 5: because I think it is time to replenish that corner room.
Speaker 9: I think, I really do think it is.
Speaker 5: I mean, with the loss of Stefan Gilmour, which is
Speaker 5: gonna be huge or whatever the case may be. After
Speaker 5: Trayvon Diggs and dron Bland, I mean, you're you're sitting
Speaker 5: up here and then a guy like Cooper he has
Speaker 5: that flex, so you might be looking for a nickel
Speaker 5: for next even next year, right, So yeah, I think
Speaker 5: honestly enough, we haven't talked about corner a whole bunch,
Speaker 5: but you've mentioned how much you think corner is going
Speaker 5: to be important at the top of this draft.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I like that.
Speaker 6: You know what's unfortunate that was like a late Day two,
Speaker 6: early Day three corner that I was I was kind
Speaker 6: of pounding the table for early on here in this
Speaker 6: draft show cycle, and it was Kyrie Kyrie Jackson out
Speaker 6: of Oregon Player. I've loved him the entire process, and
Speaker 6: then I just saw mock earlier this week that had
Speaker 6: him going at thirty two and I was like, well, damn.
Speaker 3: People are figuring it out.
Speaker 4: That guy.
Speaker 2: He's got some length and he can cover and he's sticky.
Speaker 2: I could I ask you this one's for you. This
Speaker 2: comes from Shannon Washington asked this question. If brock Bowers
Speaker 2: were to fall to us within re are we taking
Speaker 2: him along with ferguson the tight end from Georgia brock Bowers.
Speaker 5: I think because he can do so much and you're
Speaker 5: talking about in fairness, you're talking about you need like
Speaker 5: an extension of your backfield is from like the running
Speaker 5: back position.
Speaker 9: He's not a running back. He can do some running back.
Speaker 5: Things out the backfield and stuff like that.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I struggle with taking a tight end that taking a
Speaker 5: tight end that early, But somebody's gonna grab him and
Speaker 5: he's gonna piss us off every years and see him.
Speaker 9: You guys have a first on him.
Speaker 6: Yeah, if he's slipping to twenty four and he's there
Speaker 6: at twenty four, then I'm gonna force a team to
Speaker 6: overpay and come up.
Speaker 9: And That's that's what I was getting at.
Speaker 5: More so because it's like, as much as I would
Speaker 5: love him on the team, how much is he gonna
Speaker 5: help and also to.
Speaker 9: Do we have the step respectfully?
Speaker 5: Do we have the guys that are gonna be willing
Speaker 5: to help him do the things he does best because
Speaker 5: he can do so many different things.
Speaker 9: Like I don't want a guy to come in here
Speaker 9: that can did a whole.
Speaker 5: Bunch of college and then he comes in and he's
Speaker 5: just like a one trick pony. He's not, so I
Speaker 5: would try.
Speaker 9: I would.
Speaker 5: I would hold him hostage for ransom and figure something
Speaker 5: out at that point.
Speaker 2: All right, last question here before we wrap this up,
Speaker 2: Eric Broxton, I think I got that right. Eric Broxton says,
Speaker 2: NFL draft gurus keep predicting splash players like Xavier Worthy
Speaker 2: and Anidi Mitchell at twenty four, which makes no sense
Speaker 2: to me? Do you get the feeling that this might happen?
Speaker 7: Run that back again.
Speaker 2: He's saying that the he he's he can't understand why
Speaker 2: all the draft gurus are predicting that the Cowboys are
Speaker 2: going to take Xavier Worthy or Enodi Mitchell at twenty four.
Speaker 3: He says, this makes no sense to me. Do you
Speaker 3: get the feeling that this might happen?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 6: I don't feel like this will happen. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 6: feel like it will. I feel like the only receiver
Speaker 6: they might take at twenty four, And when I say might,
Speaker 6: I'm taking with a very much a grain AsSalt five
Speaker 6: percent Brian Thomas Junior. And that's if he's there. But
Speaker 6: other than that, I don't feel like there's there's a
Speaker 6: there's gonna be a guy kind of swinging there at
Speaker 6: twenty four receiver.
Speaker 9: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I mean, to your point, I know that there's like
Speaker 5: a lot of receivers that we think are going to
Speaker 5: be there early in that second round or whatever the
Speaker 5: case may be.
Speaker 9: But if it's a guy that they really like, I
Speaker 9: just don't.
Speaker 5: If somebody that is a star falls, I think that
Speaker 5: they might do it. Like I know this sounds ridiculous.
Speaker 5: I swear I didn't think they would take C. D.
Speaker 9: Lamb when they did. But if that's the best player
Speaker 9: on the boys, best player on the board.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well you guys good today.
Speaker 5: Where's uh, where's Meliko Corley on board a second second round?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 10: I do.
Speaker 6: I had a third on him, but I'd be okay
Speaker 6: with taking him in the second Yeah, That's where I'm
Speaker 6: at with him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, how's your boards coming along? By the way,
Speaker 3: pray for me.
Speaker 7: It's gonna be a long weekend.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Putting these things together.
Speaker 2: Man, I think I've got two hundred and fifteen players
Speaker 2: on my board and I'm at the stack. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: I'm working on it. I'm working on it.
Speaker 3: Well.
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