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Speaker 1: Wall with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and Derek Eagleton. It
Speaker 1: is Tuesday, August twenty second, twenty seventeen, Season thirteen, episode
Speaker 1: number twenty seven. Welcome to another edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: I am Derek eagleson Amber Garcia, Amber Garcia, thank you
Speaker 1: for joining us, Amber Garcia. But we got a little
Speaker 1: bit of a little bit of a I guess that
Speaker 1: was just a little snaff foo here. We didn't know
Speaker 1: if Amber was going to be joining us. So sorry, guys,
Speaker 1: we're we just we just realized that Amber was gonna
Speaker 1: be joining us. So that's good. Nick, Dave, welcome to
Speaker 1: the show. Thank you guys for joining us. Hi, Hi Dave,
Speaker 1: you're on yesterday. I was pretty crazy like you. You
Speaker 1: kind of went on there. You represented for the show.
Speaker 1: It was good. I thought it was a good show.
Speaker 1: I thought it was good. You represent it well. Um,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I agree with everything you said,
Speaker 1: but you represent it well. You were your typical crotchety
Speaker 1: old person self, So that was good. I was going
Speaker 1: against a crotchety old person too. You were kind of
Speaker 1: stooped to the level of my competition a little bit.
Speaker 1: Not that old. You're right, I know. I mean it's thirties.
Speaker 1: It's thirty six five. Don't get it wrong. Are you today? Nick?
Speaker 1: I'm great. Good. I can't hear, but I'm great. That's okay.
Speaker 1: Figuring out over here you can see, so that's good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could see the TV. It's really good. What did
Speaker 1: Jerry say, stop watching the television? Well, I like being
Speaker 1: over here because then I'm like, huh right at the
Speaker 1: tell you think you're talking to me, but not may
Speaker 1: Weather forty. I got it, all right, Let's jump right in.
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about some of the happenings
Speaker 1: out here. Yesterday we're back at the Star, cowboys are
Speaker 1: are back in practicing here, and yesterday there were a
Speaker 1: couple different that I wanted to just kind of make
Speaker 1: mention of the Ring of Honor Walk ceremony yesterday morning.
Speaker 1: It maybe one of the coolest events I've been to
Speaker 1: in a while. With the Cowboys because it was I
Speaker 1: think it was the first time I've ever seen all
Speaker 1: of the Ring of Honor members that are alive, except
Speaker 1: for one, Larry Allen was not able to make it,
Speaker 1: but all the rest of them they're in person at
Speaker 1: this event. They're all there on stage and it's pretty
Speaker 1: cool event. It definitely was. It was cool, and uh,
Speaker 1: I don't think that that stuff ever gets old. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, Emmett was saying, you know that we don't
Speaker 1: we don't these we don't get together enough. Uh. And
Speaker 1: a lot of times, unfortunately, when when the former players
Speaker 1: get together, it's not for the right reasons. You know,
Speaker 1: it's for you know, a funeral or something like that. So, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it really was great to see that. I
Speaker 1: don't know what Larry Allen had going on. Sure surely
Speaker 1: would have been nice to have him there, but uh,
Speaker 1: you know, for the to have seventeen of the twenty
Speaker 1: one Ring of Honor members there, it was awesome. I
Speaker 1: thought they did it well. It was a little crazy
Speaker 1: and chaotic, but I don't know, hot and hot. I
Speaker 1: don't know how it couldn't have been well, it couldn't
Speaker 1: have been hot if you did it later. But but
Speaker 1: but then again, think about that, we talked about it.
Speaker 1: I didn't do it later, but then there's restaurants going
Speaker 1: around and you know, what's what's two too? What does
Speaker 1: that mean? And it was important to do it the
Speaker 1: way they did. Yeah, yeah, I thought it was awesome,
Speaker 1: but I thought you're about to say something you had
Speaker 1: that looked like you were pontificating. It was really cool,
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm I'm finally at a point where, like
Speaker 1: I know about all the Ring of Honor members and
Speaker 1: like who they are and what they did. You know,
Speaker 1: that's interesting. Somebody brought that up yesterday, like how many
Speaker 1: and this is relevant for you and Amber because you're
Speaker 1: younger people. How many people wreck how many young people
Speaker 1: recognize all of the Ring of Honor members? Because I
Speaker 1: heard that there were a couple of guys that were
Speaker 1: in the lunch room yesterday, and particularly Manster was in
Speaker 1: there and he's kind of sitting there and some of
Speaker 1: the players didn't quite know who he was, and they're
Speaker 1: kind of trying to figure it out, and then they
Speaker 1: figure it out, it's like, oh wow, Okay, So it's
Speaker 1: just I wonder how many of you guys recognize them
Speaker 1: by face. When I got to the and I was
Speaker 1: joking with you because the facade here that they put
Speaker 1: up in the little they used the same drawings that
Speaker 1: they had hanging in Valley yea of all the old guys.
Speaker 1: And when I got to the Cowboys, I was twenty four,
Speaker 1: and I just had like a passing in knowledge of
Speaker 1: who they were, of the Cowboys other than like the trip.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, like Emmett Smith and Michael Irvin,
Speaker 1: and I remembered distinct like you know, they had him
Speaker 1: all in a line, like all the Ring of Honor guys.
Speaker 1: And I thought Drew Pearson was Michael Irvin. I was like,
Speaker 1: eighty eight, Okay, that's Michael Irvin, twenty two. That doesn't
Speaker 1: look like em At Smith, who's twenty two. And I
Speaker 1: relayed all this to Nick, and I thought he was
Speaker 1: going to strangle me, because you know, Nick is the
Speaker 1: historian well knows lifelong Cowboys fan, twenty year employees, just
Speaker 1: like heyes, what are you talking about? An idiot? And
Speaker 1: you're writing for us? What do you get exactly? I'm
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, man. I was born in
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, and I didn't follow the Cowboys until
Speaker 1: I got here. He tried to embarrass me yesterday asking me,
Speaker 1: how many can you recognize out of that line. I'm like, seriously,
Speaker 1: there's a few I could, but I obviously didn't grow
Speaker 1: up here, so sleep a lot of That's not trying
Speaker 1: to embarrass you. It's not at all. I would have
Speaker 1: been dead, but it's okay. She said I can name them,
Speaker 1: well who I can name them? And that was it
Speaker 1: pretty much end of conversation. And I said, not all
Speaker 1: of them, but I can definitely name at least. It's
Speaker 1: just interesting that, you know, you see like at all
Speaker 1: the people. Tony Door said, you know, he's kind of
Speaker 1: middle of the pack. I guess for people that that
Speaker 1: know him or you know, high profile or whatever, but
Speaker 1: you know, growing up for me, I mean, Tony Dan,
Speaker 1: that was my guy. I was in the backyard. I was.
Speaker 1: Tony Door said, yeah, I had the Roger Staubuck, like
Speaker 1: the whole outfit, like the shoulder pads, the helmet, uffy,
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I had got Christmas one year. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: was my thing. I'm talking about that with John Machoda
Speaker 1: yesterday here in the atrium. They like gave us media availability.
Speaker 1: You don't get you don't get two starstruck or like
Speaker 1: impressed by people. One you've been doing this for long enough.
Speaker 1: But me and John were both like, well yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I made it a point to go talk to Stabok
Speaker 1: Like that's on another level from anything. And I was like,
Speaker 1: this is awesome. That's the thing. When you're a child,
Speaker 1: you're allowed to be that big of a fan. As
Speaker 1: an adult, it's a little creepy if you're like, you know,
Speaker 1: I idolize, which Dak Prescott right, I mean that just
Speaker 1: doesn't feel right. Yeah, Well, when you're a kid, like
Speaker 1: it's like wow, you know, they're they're bigger than life
Speaker 1: even and like, I mean as big of a deal
Speaker 1: as guys like Dak and Dez and Jason Witton are,
Speaker 1: like Roger Staubach is, I mean, everybody who knows what
Speaker 1: American football is from the eight like people younger than
Speaker 1: me to like people who are in their seventies and eighties.
Speaker 1: I thought Jerry. I thought Jerry said it really well
Speaker 1: yesterday when he was talking about them, and this was
Speaker 1: in the the ceremony, and he said that, you know,
Speaker 1: Roger Staubach has always been a supportive of the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and while that sounds silly, you know, Roger Strauback's number
Speaker 1: one guy was Tom Landry, and everyone around here feel
Speaker 1: like it feels like Landry maybe wasn't you know, didn't
Speaker 1: wasn't treated the right way. And Jerry's he admitted that.
Speaker 1: But for Stallback, he has continued to be a Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys supporter of all the quarterbacks here, of all the coaches,
Speaker 1: and of course Jerry Jones and his family. So I
Speaker 1: thought that I was really glad that Jerry acknowledged him
Speaker 1: that way, because you know, he has been an ambassador
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys. Yeah, whenever they're having these kinds of things,
Speaker 1: it's very very rare you don't see Rogers Stallback at
Speaker 1: something like that. And it's rare that someone so successful
Speaker 1: in the field can go into the next phase of
Speaker 1: his career and actually be more successful. And he has
Speaker 1: done that, a very very successful businessman here in the
Speaker 1: Dallas area. All right, let's move on. Let's talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about practice. Cowboys open practice here at the
Speaker 1: Star for the first time with fans in attendance, and
Speaker 1: we saw something that I think raised some eyebrows because
Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk coming out of that game
Speaker 1: about Cooper Rush, a lot of talk about Kellen Moore,
Speaker 1: and then we see during that practice Cooper Rush gets
Speaker 1: some opportunities with the second team team. Kelly Morris is
Speaker 1: take some snaps with the third team. Talk to me
Speaker 1: about what that might or might not mean. Was it
Speaker 1: just as simple as the coaches, because they'll always just say, hey,
Speaker 1: we're just trying to get different looks and that kind
Speaker 1: of thing. But you can't help but say, well, you
Speaker 1: weren't doing that a couple of weeks ago, right, So
Speaker 1: what did you guys take from them? I took Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush being working with the second team that maybe they'll
Speaker 1: see how he does there. He's done well in every
Speaker 1: other aspect that we've given him, Let's see if we
Speaker 1: do it there. And I yeah, the head coach might
Speaker 1: come out here in a little while and say it's different.
Speaker 1: But if that's the I mean, I don't see other
Speaker 1: people people doing it. I mean I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: see Dez with the second team. I mean I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't see Jason Witten working with that. And so
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's it's something that needed
Speaker 1: needed to be done. I mean, Dave, I mean I
Speaker 1: don't know what what's your opinion is. I won't It's
Speaker 1: it's too early for it to signify anything for me.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think he got five reps or something
Speaker 1: like that, you know, And and Jason Garrett, if he
Speaker 1: says anything other than like, well, we'd like to put
Speaker 1: all our guys in competitive situation. We do all that
Speaker 1: type of stuff all the time. We rotate left car like,
Speaker 1: he's not going to come out and say the number
Speaker 1: two job is up for grabs now, and Cooper Rush
Speaker 1: has done enough to deserve a look like he's not.
Speaker 1: That's not how he operates. So, uh, it's interesting. It's
Speaker 1: noteworthy for sure, and if it continues, it's even more noteworthy.
Speaker 1: But you know, one you know, one day, will they
Speaker 1: do it again today? Will it? Will it affect the
Speaker 1: reps on Saturday? That's what I'm curious about. And Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: actually he talked on one oh five three the Fan
Speaker 1: here in Dallas this morning, and he gave Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: a pretty decent little vote of confidence saying, you know,
Speaker 1: he feels good about the quarterback spot. He likes what
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush has done. But he and and you know,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones is way more likely to give you the
Speaker 1: scoop than Jason Garrett is. So if he's not opening
Speaker 1: up the job, then then I'm not really I'm still
Speaker 1: not ready to really think about it. Rush. When you
Speaker 1: look at what at what they've a question for you guys. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: let's forget what Kellen what the coach. Just think about
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore and how they support him and everything. If
Speaker 1: it was up to you, each and one of you
Speaker 1: to choose between the two of them, would you be
Speaker 1: willing to put a Cooper Rush as the backup quarterback
Speaker 1: even though he is a rookie. Um, yeah, we're going here.
Speaker 1: We're actually to be honestly, that was actually the question.
Speaker 1: I was aust that's perfect, No, it's perfect. That's a
Speaker 1: great question. You're giving me the freedom to Yes. You
Speaker 1: guys are making the decision if you were the coach
Speaker 1: and based upon what you see. Now, let me just
Speaker 1: throw let me just throw this out real quick. In
Speaker 1: the games that they've played so far in the preseason,
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore has completed fifty four percent of his passes,
Speaker 1: He has one touchdown, one interception, and he has a
Speaker 1: seventy five quarterback rating. Flip side of that, Rush has
Speaker 1: a has completed sixty eight point four percent of his passes,
Speaker 1: four touchdowns, zero interceptions, and has a one hundred twenty
Speaker 1: five point two passer rating. Of course, he's playing against
Speaker 1: thirteen players and he's with the third team as opposed
Speaker 1: to to what Moore is doing. But all that being consider,
Speaker 1: what would you guys fall again, I'm the general manager here.
Speaker 1: I make all the day. You make the decisions. Cooper
Speaker 1: Rush is on my fifty three. I'd go hire somebody
Speaker 1: else to be my backup quarterback. I would release Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore and put him, try to put him on the
Speaker 1: practice squad, and I think I could clear waivers because
Speaker 1: Lenahan's with the Cowboys, so I don't think he's not
Speaker 1: with anyone else, so he should clear waivers, and then
Speaker 1: he comes back to the practice squad, and my game
Speaker 1: day back up is Cooper Rush. If something happens to Dac,
Speaker 1: I think that you know he'll be the guy he
Speaker 1: comes in and finishes it off. And then if it's
Speaker 1: if it's something you need for a few more weeks, whatever,
Speaker 1: you can sign Kellen Moore back. He probably would would
Speaker 1: jump Cooper Rush and start the game. But that's what
Speaker 1: I would do. I just thought, I think who could
Speaker 1: clear waivers and I think I think it would be him. Now,
Speaker 1: I guess the question would be why not keep them both?
Speaker 1: But you can go down the roster and you know
Speaker 1: there's a way to keep them both for sure, But
Speaker 1: I don't think I would. I don't think. I think
Speaker 1: you can get him on the practicquad. He is eligible
Speaker 1: for the practice quad. Still, are there any guys that
Speaker 1: are out there that are free agent quarterbacks that you're thinking.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even I don't want to get
Speaker 1: to the Kaepernick because I don't think that would ever happen.
Speaker 1: Seem that that is who I would go higher. I agree,
Speaker 1: I don't think that would happen. No, I would never.
Speaker 1: It would never happen, right, no way. But that's what
Speaker 1: I would do. I just look at it, like, what
Speaker 1: would a distraction like he would be a distraction? Oh no,
Speaker 1: not this team can't have distractions on the Cowboys. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nothing else going on. I mean, maybe it'd be a
Speaker 1: good thing. Yeah, I mean, I he'd be He's got
Speaker 1: to be the most humbled quarterback ever right now. Kaepernick.
Speaker 1: I would think he's got He's got the ability. He's
Speaker 1: definitely got the ability. I don't think it's a question
Speaker 1: of his ability in mine, But what is it? Then
Speaker 1: he kneeled down. Yes, I think that everyone in the
Speaker 1: league's doing it. Yeah, that's yeah, it's becoming, it's it's spreading. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I mean, obviously to me,
Speaker 1: you know, it's come down to he's probably not that
Speaker 1: good for what people perceived to be going to be
Speaker 1: a huge distraction, but this team is dealt with distractions,
Speaker 1: and he seems way better than you know, the options
Speaker 1: that they have now. I mean, what Kellen Moore did
Speaker 1: the other day is awful. You've got to hold onto
Speaker 1: the football. Yeah, he wasn't even hit hard like that.
Speaker 1: That's that's the worst thing right there. The ball just
Speaker 1: pops out like that. I mean, you small guy, got
Speaker 1: small hands and can't hang on to the football barring.
Speaker 1: I mean, the first week that he was that he
Speaker 1: would theoretically here would be a circus. But I have
Speaker 1: very little doubt that he could be a quiet I mean,
Speaker 1: very similar to Mark Sanchez last year. Just like a
Speaker 1: quiet veteran dude who isn't going to be a big
Speaker 1: story other than the first week he's here when all
Speaker 1: that is first getting discussed, and he can absolutely do
Speaker 1: what they ask back to do, Like, he can absolutely
Speaker 1: do that same type of stuff, like a lot of motion,
Speaker 1: a lot of you know, just easy passes, find the open.
Speaker 1: I mean, he can run that offense. I think he
Speaker 1: could probably running pretty well. Yeah. I don't think that
Speaker 1: that will happen though, Yeah, I mean, I guess the
Speaker 1: elephant in the room is that this team has been
Speaker 1: and from the head coach an owner on down has
Speaker 1: been pretty outspoken about the fact of how they feel
Speaker 1: about the national anthem and how you can you look
Speaker 1: at I'll challenge fans next time if you can see it.
Speaker 1: If you're in the stadium, you definitely can see it.
Speaker 1: But if you're on TV watching on TV, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if you can see it. But watch how the
Speaker 1: Cowboys line up for the national anthem. It is unlike
Speaker 1: most teams in the NFL. They literally line up. It
Speaker 1: is not just stop wherever you are and acknowledge the
Speaker 1: national anthem. They are in a single file line, towing
Speaker 1: the line there on the sideline. They do even more
Speaker 1: than most teams do for the national anthem, and that,
Speaker 1: to me is why I think this team would probably
Speaker 1: never go the route of having Colin Kaepernick on the
Speaker 1: team because it doesn't fit what they are saying as
Speaker 1: a team that they do. There's a story out there.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just I don't know if I agree
Speaker 1: with that. I really don't. And I don't think that
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones or Jason Garrett would come out and say
Speaker 1: that that. You know, I think everyone they want their
Speaker 1: players to stand up for what they believe in. Um, yes,
Speaker 1: he does ask him to do that. But I think
Speaker 1: if we would have had a player here, that's that
Speaker 1: I felt strongly the other way. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: think it would be any different. Yes, if you had
Speaker 1: a player here, Let's say, for example, Dez Bryant went
Speaker 1: that way and said, look, I'm gonna do this because
Speaker 1: I feel they're not getting rid of this, Bryan, so
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to deal with it. See, it's a
Speaker 1: whole different thing saying we already have a thing that
Speaker 1: we do as a team, and now we're gonna bring
Speaker 1: in somebody who's going to be the backup. By the way, now,
Speaker 1: this whole different thing. If he's bringing in as the starter,
Speaker 1: but he's gonna be the backup, and we're bringing in
Speaker 1: a guy that is different than what we're kind of
Speaker 1: preaching to our team. If Leon McFadden decided that he
Speaker 1: didn't want to do that, like they would wouldn't be
Speaker 1: good for him. I wouldn't. I would not be surprised if,
Speaker 1: just for whatever reason, Leon McFadden wasn't on the fifty
Speaker 1: three man roster. Well, he's not gonna be anyway, right,
Speaker 1: not right, there's well, and that's what I was gonna
Speaker 1: bring up. There's a I mean, it's been circulating for
Speaker 1: a year now. There's a story out there that you know,
Speaker 1: Jerry threatened hell Fire and Brimstone to the whole team
Speaker 1: if they messed with the national anthem. I mean, I've
Speaker 1: seen it shared on Facebook a million billion times. As
Speaker 1: far as I know, there's no proof that that ever happened, Like,
Speaker 1: I've never heard anything about that being substantial ever. But
Speaker 1: I do think it is very heavily implied here that
Speaker 1: that is, that's something they value. They don't want you
Speaker 1: messing with that. I mean, Jerry said it. He said
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. Yeah, that's the way it seemed that
Speaker 1: the way it seems. Jerry said this morning on the
Speaker 1: face he said, I like the way the Cowboys do it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean if your owners saying that, there's an implication there,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And and Jason Garrett spoke
Speaker 1: really strongly about it too the other day. If a
Speaker 1: star player decided to take a stand with that, I yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't mean you're not kicking a guy off the
Speaker 1: team because of that, but a Leon McFadden, I mean,
Speaker 1: it would be it would be interesting to see how
Speaker 1: they would deal with it, because I do think there
Speaker 1: is a heavy implication that they're not okay with that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Because to be honest with you, I don't know that
Speaker 1: I would. I would have a hard time believing of
Speaker 1: all those men in that locker room, there's not a
Speaker 1: few at least that feel like what Colin Kaepernick was
Speaker 1: doing was justified and feel like that someone needs to
Speaker 1: stand up and say there's some problems here that we
Speaker 1: need to draw attention to. And if that draws attention
Speaker 1: to it, then something needs to be done. But I
Speaker 1: think you're right. When you hear your owner talking about
Speaker 1: things in a certain way, you hear your coach talking
Speaker 1: about things in a certain way, and they're saying, and
Speaker 1: that's publicly they're talking about it. You don't know what's
Speaker 1: being said in the meeting rooms. It certainly dissuades you
Speaker 1: from being the person that's going to step out there
Speaker 1: and go counter to that. Right, But if it really
Speaker 1: came down to it, I don't think right now we're
Speaker 1: at the point where the Cowboys really need to go
Speaker 1: that route. But if it really really came down to it,
Speaker 1: would that truly be a deal breaker to bringing him here?
Speaker 1: Not necessarily. And I'll put it to you like this,
Speaker 1: If let's say, for example, that you're starting let's say
Speaker 1: that Dak knock on wood again. If Dak goes down
Speaker 1: and he's out for a significant amount of time, and
Speaker 1: you're looking at the landscape of quarterbacks out there, and
Speaker 1: let's say you've already gotten into the season and you
Speaker 1: already got you know, you're already you know, let's say
Speaker 1: you're four and one, like you're having a really good season,
Speaker 1: and Dad goes down. I think that at that point
Speaker 1: all bets are off. If he is the best quarterback
Speaker 1: out there, it's it's worth it may be worth it
Speaker 1: to deal with the added things that come with him
Speaker 1: if he's your starter, then if he's a backup guy
Speaker 1: and you're having to deal with this and he's not
Speaker 1: even playing, it would have to be a situation where
Speaker 1: he can save your season, like coming in like start game.
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't. I don't think they would do it
Speaker 1: to just have him be like Mark Sanchez where he's
Speaker 1: either inactive or you know, standing in a baseball hat
Speaker 1: sixteen weeks. Right, And again these are all just our opinions.
Speaker 1: We don't know exactly how the Cowboys are thinking about
Speaker 1: this because they haven't gone on record or talked about
Speaker 1: this publicly to my knowledge, but it's just kind of
Speaker 1: how I would think it would it would play out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I just feel like then as crazy as
Speaker 1: this is going to sound, I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: Kellen Moore has hit his ceiling and I just think
Speaker 1: that he he's not gonna get you know, a whole
Speaker 1: lot better and you kind of know what he is
Speaker 1: there and he's gonna know the offense. But I mean,
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't. I wouldn't part ways with Cooper Rush
Speaker 1: at this point. I don't think. I don't know if
Speaker 1: Cooper Rush is going to be great. I don't even
Speaker 1: know if he's gonna be good. He's just been good
Speaker 1: in every situation they've given him. And I said this yesterday.
Speaker 1: You know, not only has he come in and played well,
Speaker 1: he's come in played well immediately, so he shows the
Speaker 1: preparation there. And every time he's throwing a touchdown, they've
Speaker 1: been they've been trailing. They've been trailing in every single
Speaker 1: time he's come in and he's either giving him the
Speaker 1: lead or tied the game. Does that matter? I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's not been too big for
Speaker 1: him yet. I'm incredibly he's on my fifty three. I mean,
Speaker 1: unless unless he absolutely just tanks out the last two weeks,
Speaker 1: which I don't foresee happening. And even if he does,
Speaker 1: I don't I've seen enough that I think I want
Speaker 1: to put him on the roster. I don't know that
Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with him being one snap away from being
Speaker 1: the guy. I think, like whether it's Kellen Moore or
Speaker 1: like Colin Kaepernick's not happening. But if they want to
Speaker 1: bring in somebody else or honestly, I try to make
Speaker 1: this point on the show he did yesterday, I would
Speaker 1: try to foster some competition between Kellen Moore and Luke McCown.
Speaker 1: If I really thought that Kellen Moore wasn't the guy
Speaker 1: one way or the other, I would like to have
Speaker 1: some a buffer between an undrafted rookie being the starter.
Speaker 1: All right, let's take our first break. When we come back,
Speaker 1: we'll get some questions. Call us eight eight eight eight
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Speaker 1: from Horace in Atlanta. Horace, what up? Hey, what's up? Guys? Hey?
Speaker 1: I agree with Nick one hundred percent. I believe that
Speaker 1: that Cooper is a is an excellent quarterback. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think he's shown that he could, that he should
Speaker 1: be plun that she should be the backup. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's about performance. This is the opportunity that you get
Speaker 1: to perform, and this is the only test that they
Speaker 1: really have, and that's why they have the preseason game.
Speaker 1: And I think that he has shown that he can
Speaker 1: then he can be that guy, and I think he
Speaker 1: deserves an opportunity and I really would like to see
Speaker 1: him get the second team reps in this coming up
Speaker 1: game and really see what he can do. You know,
Speaker 1: when he's thrust into the fire. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: much like Dak Prescott did last year, every time you
Speaker 1: gave him an opportunity, he met the challenge. And if
Speaker 1: he continues to do that, I think he's earned that spot.
Speaker 1: And you know, as far as as far as I
Speaker 1: would love for them to bring in Kaepernick, I don't
Speaker 1: think that that would happen, but I would like for
Speaker 1: them to do that and then keep Cooper Russians like
Speaker 1: on the practice squad or something like that, or even
Speaker 1: on the fifty three. I wouldn't mind that either, but
Speaker 1: I think that they should really do that to address
Speaker 1: that that issue. I think that is declaring home so
Speaker 1: to speak, that I've seen so far in the in
Speaker 1: this preseason. Thanks guys, all right, thanks for the call. Nick,
Speaker 1: you want to address that because I don't think that's
Speaker 1: exactly what he did, right, But no, he said I
Speaker 1: agree with him one hundred percent. I think he's an
Speaker 1: excellent quarterback. Now I don't. I didn't say that. I
Speaker 1: don't think he's an excellent quarterback. I mean what I
Speaker 1: said is is that he's done everything they've asked him
Speaker 1: to do, and he he looks like he's you know,
Speaker 1: he needs more reps and he's getting it. He got
Speaker 1: some yesterday, so we'll see if he gets a little
Speaker 1: bit more. I mean, I don't know if I'm comfortable
Speaker 1: with him being the number two, not not long term.
Speaker 1: I think you'd have to go get someone if you
Speaker 1: needed long term. But you know, what, is this a
Speaker 1: glaring hole? I mean, this is to me, this is is
Speaker 1: like a bad undershirt. Right now, it doesn't look like it.
Speaker 1: You don't really can't really tell if you've got a
Speaker 1: bad undershirt or not until something happens to your shirt
Speaker 1: and you take it off and you're like, oh, that's ugly.
Speaker 1: So I mean, right, I'm glad that's good. Or not
Speaker 1: tinking about an undershirt? Yeah, okay, I'm going along with
Speaker 1: your metaphor here. I'm just saying you don't really it's
Speaker 1: probably not gonna be an issue until it's an issue, right,
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's a glaring need. I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean a glaring hole. I think you've got some.
Speaker 1: I'm glad you've raised that point because that's what I
Speaker 1: was thinking. When Horace was finishing his call, I was like, man,
Speaker 1: the secondary is I mean with a secondary turned over
Speaker 1: the whole roster, and the pass rush has not really
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't look significantly better than what we
Speaker 1: thought it would be. But everybody is worried about backup quarterback.
Speaker 1: I mean that's the only thing that anybody wants, you think.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think that's because though there's been until
Speaker 1: up until last year, this has been a running theme
Speaker 1: for the last several years. The backup quarterback really matters, right,
Speaker 1: I think everybody's kind of gun shot because of that.
Speaker 1: I honestly, well, for yes, twenty fifteen was not that
Speaker 1: long ago. A lot of people remember what it looks
Speaker 1: like when you're you don't have your good quarterback for
Speaker 1: an extended period of time. Secondly, quarterbacks what you see
Speaker 1: when you watch the game. I mean, like Kellen Moore
Speaker 1: touched the ball every snap he was in. He threw
Speaker 1: twenty one passes, he completed ten of them. I mean,
Speaker 1: the defense hasn't looked great. Honestly, the first string defense
Speaker 1: looked great. The secondary now haven't given up a ton
Speaker 1: of big plays. And on top of that, if you
Speaker 1: really want to see what Byron Jones and Jeff Heath
Speaker 1: are doing, you have to go back and watch it.
Speaker 1: You gotta, I mean, either rewatch the broadcast, but ideally
Speaker 1: go find some All twenty two, whether that's on game
Speaker 1: Pass or whatever. If your buddies with Brian brought us,
Speaker 1: it helps. But either way you can't really. I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't know how Malik Collins played just from watching
Speaker 1: the game, but you sure as hell know that Kella
Speaker 1: Moore didn't have a great night, and that's the crux
Speaker 1: of the issue. But with I mean, you know, every
Speaker 1: cornerback on this team seems to have a hamstring problem
Speaker 1: of some sort. The pass rush It's okay, I mean,
Speaker 1: I just said they played really well against the Colts,
Speaker 1: but I'm still way more worried about what the defense
Speaker 1: is going to do on September tenth than I'm worried
Speaker 1: about who's going to be calling in the plays for Dak.
Speaker 1: You know, from the sideline, speaking of those hamstring issues,
Speaker 1: is that a little bit troubling for you guys that
Speaker 1: that many guys have them? And it seems like a lot.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of the young guys, the rookies, I
Speaker 1: mean pretty much go down the list of the rookie
Speaker 1: class this year and they've all at some point during camp. Motele,
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say all, but a good number of draft
Speaker 1: picks have have had hamstring issues throughout training camp, which
Speaker 1: kind of signals and maybe this is a situation where
Speaker 1: you know, the young guys just don't have the bodies,
Speaker 1: aren't ready for the rigors of NFL training camp. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, and you're talking about the skill players too,
Speaker 1: the bigger guys, that hasn't been an issue. But from
Speaker 1: the three corners and Switzer, they've all had something in
Speaker 1: Switzer still kind of in and out right now. I
Speaker 1: think it's time to it'd be nice to see him
Speaker 1: this week against the Raiders. I'm not sure he's gonna
Speaker 1: be ready. He's been kind of working into practice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he went in and out yesterday. He did individuals and
Speaker 1: some walked through stuff and then came back for special teams.
Speaker 1: But he hasn't done anything competitive. But yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it's been an issue, and I think are we
Speaker 1: getting into some players that have stood out in the game.
Speaker 1: We're definitely gonna get that. Yeah. So if you have
Speaker 1: some good from well, I just think they kind of
Speaker 1: go work hand in hand here. I mean, one of
Speaker 1: the guys that's taken advantage of that, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if you can cut him at this point. He's
Speaker 1: Duke Thomas. I think Duke Thomas has done just like
Speaker 1: from a Cooper Rush standpoint, He's done everything you've asked
Speaker 1: him to do. He's playing, he's showing up, he's making
Speaker 1: tackles behind the line of scrimmage, he's making plays on
Speaker 1: special teams. So I mean, obviously you're gonna keep Jordan
Speaker 1: Lewis and Chittubay, but but he's finding a spot for himself.
Speaker 1: And if you were if Mark Mark Quez White was
Speaker 1: going to make the team, and he still might, but
Speaker 1: Duke Thomas is battling him for that spot. And we
Speaker 1: talked That's something we talked about on the Combo Show yesterday,
Speaker 1: is that these injuries are kind of forcing you in
Speaker 1: a situation where you might have to carry more cornerbacks
Speaker 1: than you initially thought you would because, yeah, you're not Chittabay,
Speaker 1: Wouzier and Jordan Lewis aren't going anywhere. But at this rate,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can count on them to
Speaker 1: meaningfully contribute in Week one unless they get healthy quick,
Speaker 1: especially Jordan Lewis, at least Chetos had the benefit of
Speaker 1: a few weeks of practice. But so now you're looking
Speaker 1: at Duke Thomas, maybe Mark Quiz White, and you know,
Speaker 1: you go back to you know, I think they carried
Speaker 1: ten dbs last year, they carried five corners and five safeties.
Speaker 1: Is that can you still do that right now? If
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis hasn't practiced all year, I think they can
Speaker 1: go as far as maybe even having just three safeties
Speaker 1: seven corners that they have Cheeto can flip over. Even
Speaker 1: before any of this happened, I was thinking six corners
Speaker 1: and four safeties because Marks White was playing so well.
Speaker 1: And now I'm like, well, can you get away with
Speaker 1: seven and three for a little while, because right now
Speaker 1: I don't trust most of the corners here to contribute.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean a guy like Duke Thomas has
Speaker 1: been great, It would be I would feel bad for
Speaker 1: him if he got cut because he's done everything that
Speaker 1: they've asked him to and done it pretty well. And
Speaker 1: you know, I think Kellen will make the team. Kellen Moore,
Speaker 1: And it'll come down to what, you know, when Cooper Rush,
Speaker 1: you know, if they keep him, he's he's not going
Speaker 1: up against another quarterback it'll be you know, I think
Speaker 1: the final three guys are gonna come down to it
Speaker 1: is like Markuetz White, Kellen Moore, I mean, Cooper Rush,
Speaker 1: and probably Noah Brown, you know, or the Andy Jones
Speaker 1: or something like that. Like it's you just you just
Speaker 1: put those final guys out there and just say, let's
Speaker 1: figure out a way to keep them. But I think
Speaker 1: one thing that's real interesting here is the offensive line.
Speaker 1: The offensive line is going to help you go longer
Speaker 1: at other positions because if I know, Chas Green got
Speaker 1: some reps yesterday at the left guard or left guard,
Speaker 1: so they're still figuring that out. But I think, you know,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper could win that job. That would really open
Speaker 1: things up. Think about your three backups. You could just
Speaker 1: keep eight offensive linemen for your three backups would be
Speaker 1: Looney who plays guarden, center, Chas Green, who plays tackle
Speaker 1: both tackles and guard if you need them to. And
Speaker 1: then you could keep Byron Bell who plays tackle and guard.
Speaker 1: That's having eight guys, but it sounds like you've got
Speaker 1: nine or ten because they can play a lot. They
Speaker 1: can play a lot. Iron Bell has played all four
Speaker 1: of the spots that aren't center on the line. Ye oh,
Speaker 1: and I agree eight sounds so thin. It does, but
Speaker 1: they did it last year and all three of those
Speaker 1: backups can play two to four positions, so that that
Speaker 1: could kind of help you. When you know you want
Speaker 1: to keep four tight ends and you know you're probably
Speaker 1: gonna keep six receivers. I can't imagine them cutting Noah Brown.
Speaker 1: You're really like, I want Noah Brown on this team.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm the captain of his bands play,
Speaker 1: and he absolutely is. But when it comes down to
Speaker 1: especially with Cooper Rush, you know, you think you're like,
Speaker 1: all right, well, you know, maybe Noah Brown clears waivers,
Speaker 1: or maybe we can find a Noah Brown next year.
Speaker 1: Like I mean, you're gonna lean toward the quarterback over
Speaker 1: the receiver in those situations. And I feel like every
Speaker 1: year I fall in love with a guy and convince
Speaker 1: myself like, oh, they'll they'll find a spot for him,
Speaker 1: and then they never do. And that's kind of how
Speaker 1: I feel about Noah Brown right now. Which I want
Speaker 1: him on the team. I just don't know if they
Speaker 1: can make it work. What I like about Noah Brown
Speaker 1: is that from the maybe my eyes are getting bad,
Speaker 1: but from the press box, I look down at him
Speaker 1: like Deaz in the game. Yep, he's no that's no Brown,
Speaker 1: big guy. Yeah, he's a really big guy. I'd love
Speaker 1: to see Noah Brown. I know it's not gonna happen
Speaker 1: right now, but I'd love to see no No Brown
Speaker 1: playing with other top talent, just to see if he
Speaker 1: could still make a couple plays here and there. That's
Speaker 1: what we haven't seen yet. Like but but for where
Speaker 1: he is, he consistently is making plays, I think, both
Speaker 1: in practice and in games. So I'd like to see
Speaker 1: him with with better competitions, see how he and you
Speaker 1: know what else is going to happen a little bit
Speaker 1: when we're talking about receiver. I think you're gonna see
Speaker 1: more packages where they rotate different guys in and out. Um,
Speaker 1: you'll see more Bryce Butler, I think this year. Um,
Speaker 1: but I think he should should I think yeah, And
Speaker 1: I think with DZ, Bryce and Dez, I mean, um
Speaker 1: not to say that he will be the number two,
Speaker 1: because Terrence is still valuable and they like him. They
Speaker 1: love what he does as a blocker as well, and
Speaker 1: he can get open and like you said, he gets
Speaker 1: open real well around the in the red zone. But
Speaker 1: I think that that Bryce has done things, especially because
Speaker 1: of his vertical play that you know he'll he's another
Speaker 1: weapon that they're going to utilize too. We're not talking
Speaker 1: about him being on the bubble. I mean he's he's
Speaker 1: at it all. He's firmly on the scene. Yeah. Here,
Speaker 1: sorry to switch it back to the offensive line. Here's
Speaker 1: a question about Terrence Smith. We did get to see
Speaker 1: him play a little bit in the game, but then
Speaker 1: Chas Green went in, uh proverham tackle and then Jonathan
Speaker 1: Cooper at car How would you guys feel if it
Speaker 1: happens that Tyren Smith has to be out for whatever game?
Speaker 1: How does that offensive line look for you guys? Are
Speaker 1: you feeling okay with it? How they had it going
Speaker 1: at the Not okay with Tren? Definitely okay, but well no,
Speaker 1: but can they get the job done? I mean we
Speaker 1: did get to see some stuff. The best moment of
Speaker 1: Chaz Green's career is when he had to fill in
Speaker 1: for Tyren Smith. I mean, yeah, you wonder if he
Speaker 1: can stay healthy. And he's not as good as Tyren Smith,
Speaker 1: but he handled himself well at what people say is
Speaker 1: the hardest position on the offensive line. So I mean
Speaker 1: it's remarkable how well they've set themselves up on the
Speaker 1: offensive line with the resources they put into it. If
Speaker 1: your franchise left tackle goes down, you have a top
Speaker 1: one hundred draft pick who can do the job. The
Speaker 1: one thing that does still worry me about that, though,
Speaker 1: is last year he had literally sitting there at left guard.
Speaker 1: I don't feel as comfortable about Cooper, of course, paired
Speaker 1: with Chaz Green on the left side. That's that worries me. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that's the area where I'm a
Speaker 1: little I'm a little probably more concerned than what you
Speaker 1: just said because of that, just because I don't necessarily
Speaker 1: I haven't I've had enough experience just yet with the
Speaker 1: left guard to feel comfortable that you put him with
Speaker 1: Chaz Green, that your left side is still okay. I
Speaker 1: completely agree with you. But, and this is going back
Speaker 1: to Nick's point, I feel like this is a conversation
Speaker 1: that's kind of starting to percolate around the team, is
Speaker 1: that I think, ideally you want Jonathan Cooper to win
Speaker 1: this job because it's way better to kind of have
Speaker 1: Chaz Green out of the fray, you know where, maybe
Speaker 1: he's even one of the best five offensive linemen on
Speaker 1: the team. But in this situation, I think it sounds
Speaker 1: way more comforting to know that he's probably playing fifteen
Speaker 1: snaps a game and he can be your backup tackle
Speaker 1: and you're you're in a lot less hot water. If
Speaker 1: somebody gets hurt. Then if Chad's is at left guard
Speaker 1: and you lose Tyrant Smith and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're signing or you lose both of them. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: mean you're signing Emmet clearyer Kadem Edwards off the practice
Speaker 1: squad or whatever you gotta do. And yeah, that doesn't
Speaker 1: sound as good as Chads to me, not at all.
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's get a question. Do you have
Speaker 1: another question for Twitter? Yeah, a lot of questions about
Speaker 1: Nolan Carroll. Are you guys worried about him getting suspended?
Speaker 1: And again we've seen that he's got some good times,
Speaker 1: like he's played well, but then again then we see
Speaker 1: him again play horrible. So it's not a very consistent guy.
Speaker 1: You know, when you asked that question, I actually was
Speaker 1: thinking in my mind, I wasn't even thinking about the suspension.
Speaker 1: I thought you were asking are you worried about his play?
Speaker 1: Because the one thing we've seen now he's had he
Speaker 1: had a good I think it was the last couple
Speaker 1: of practices before we left camp, had a really good
Speaker 1: I had some really good practices there. There were other
Speaker 1: times earlier in camp he was he was getting be
Speaker 1: pretty good. And then yesterday he had another one of
Speaker 1: those days when I want to say they were at
Speaker 1: least three at least three deep balls where he got
Speaker 1: just just like run by, like just ran right by him.
Speaker 1: Dez did it twice, and Terrence did it once, and
Speaker 1: those guys, I'm sorry, but when it comes to just
Speaker 1: NFL like just wide receivers that that are burners. Those
Speaker 1: guys are not considered burners, right, Are they fast in
Speaker 1: the world of life? Yes, very, but not like Bester
Speaker 1: than me beaty receivers. I don't know, maybe maybe um
Speaker 1: but and but just ran right by him. So it's
Speaker 1: like it's gonna get worse than that. You know, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get faster done. I believe I want Like I
Speaker 1: think his hearing is today, Yeah, yeah, I think it
Speaker 1: came out today. So whatever happens there will probably dictate well,
Speaker 1: not necessarily because the NFL does what it wants. I
Speaker 1: I don't know. I kind of you were saying earlier
Speaker 1: in camp that there's at least cause for optimism that
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be suspended. But I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: how to answer that until there's a firm decision. But
Speaker 1: he was optimistic about Z. That's a great point. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not. Yeah, but and this is my
Speaker 1: fault because I take videos of everything, and I feel
Speaker 1: bad for Nolan Carroll, Like, yeah, come on, Like he
Speaker 1: he got beat up in the first couple of days
Speaker 1: of camp and Oxnard and everybody was ready to cut him,
Speaker 1: and then he just quietly was very solid for the
Speaker 1: better part of a month, Like he was picking off Dak.
Speaker 1: He wasn't getting burned. He has not given up a
Speaker 1: play of meaningful distance in a game that I can remember.
Speaker 1: And then he goes out yesterday in one on ones,
Speaker 1: which is designed to favor the offense, gets his butt kicked.
Speaker 1: To be fair, I'm not going to say he didn't,
Speaker 1: but like, and now everybody wants to cut him again.
Speaker 1: It happened to team too, though it wasn't just an
Speaker 1: all right, fine, he had a bad day practice. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying the guy's a pro bowler, but that's just
Speaker 1: the nature of the cornerback position. Those hamstrings are good.
Speaker 1: You can be right, it's a great point you can
Speaker 1: be and if he can be like thirty nine like that,
Speaker 1: he's there every game and he's solid, I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not against it, and I'm not saying I'm not saying
Speaker 1: raise the alarm that that he's going to be horrible.
Speaker 1: That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is I've
Speaker 1: seen enough moments that make me at least be like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, like, I've seen enough moments that make
Speaker 1: me pause. He's not He's not gonna be a lockdown
Speaker 1: corner or else you wouldn't have gotten him for three
Speaker 1: million dollars a year, right. The Eagles is not going
Speaker 1: to let him go. They can't cover anyone either. That's
Speaker 1: I'm not yeah right, I'm not trying to convince you
Speaker 1: he's great. But it's just like brand Carr, like, he's serviceable.
Speaker 1: He's probably gonna give up some plays. You're probably gonna
Speaker 1: be yelling at your TV at him, if I had
Speaker 1: to guess at least a few times. But he's probably
Speaker 1: better than the credit that he gets, which is none whatsoever.
Speaker 1: And the Cowboys knew that going in. You don't sign
Speaker 1: a guy in free agency, didn't go back and draft
Speaker 1: three corners right a month later. If he's a bridge player, yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: so I is. He's probably not going to be a
Speaker 1: great player for the Cowboys, but he's certainly not the
Speaker 1: hunk of garbage that my Twitter mentions try to suggest that.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna better than car or worse than
Speaker 1: car I should say, not better worse than car Um. Yeah, Carr,
Speaker 1: Car is a better player. I think he will be
Speaker 1: worse than car was last year because Car, you know,
Speaker 1: third and twenty against the Packers. Notwithstanding, car was pretty
Speaker 1: good last year. He was much better than he got
Speaker 1: credit for over you know, over the course of his career.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, it'll probably be really similar,
Speaker 1: if I had to guess, I do like Nolan Carroll's
Speaker 1: not afraid to get physical, which I like that about him.
Speaker 1: I like that. You know, he's a guy. He's not
Speaker 1: always gonna win, but he will and can get physical
Speaker 1: with a guy like Dez, which you need that. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, when you look back at last year, Brandon
Speaker 1: Carr going up against Odell Beckham, like Beckham got him
Speaker 1: for one one play for the touchdown that ended up
Speaker 1: you know, it was the difference in the game. But
Speaker 1: for the most part, I thought a car you know,
Speaker 1: played really well in that game and he had a
Speaker 1: lot of opportunities. Speaking of that, and I would imagine
Speaker 1: if you're on the Giants break, they've talked about the
Speaker 1: fact that the running back is not going to be
Speaker 1: there when they when they faced the Giants. Are we
Speaker 1: sure of the ride receiver was going to be there
Speaker 1: when they faced the Cowboys. I thought that was pretty
Speaker 1: dramatic myself. I think he'll be there, but hey, you
Speaker 1: never know until you hear more reports about what the
Speaker 1: actual we're joking me and brought us. We're joking about
Speaker 1: that in the office. I mean, it looks like they
Speaker 1: dodged a bullet, yeah the Giants. Yeah, but we say
Speaker 1: it's just a sprained ankle. But they're gonna do more tests,
Speaker 1: so we'll see. We thought Tony dodged a bullet last
Speaker 1: year too. I wrote the story about it, so I
Speaker 1: want to hear more out of all the I mean,
Speaker 1: they said he's gonna undergo more testing, so I don't know.
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know, but it looks like he got
Speaker 1: He's okay. I know, I'm telling you, I hope he plays.
Speaker 1: I know that there's people in the building that we
Speaker 1: know that that are they're different about that. But I
Speaker 1: love watching that guy play, and I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I hope he gets out there. We're talking about Odell Beckham. Yes,
Speaker 1: we are talking about it. He's one of the five
Speaker 1: or six most electric players in the league. And if
Speaker 1: a fun player to watch. If you don't want to
Speaker 1: watch him play, then I don't you know, you're not
Speaker 1: a real football fan. I mean, yeah, it would help
Speaker 1: the Cowboys if he wasn't out there, but I'd much
Speaker 1: rather watch it player than not. Yeah, and if you're gonna,
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're gonna play them, you want to
Speaker 1: play them and beat them, like with him out there.
Speaker 1: That's fine. That's okay. All right, let's take our final break.
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Speaker 1: we're gonna pause right now because Dave has a little
Speaker 1: rant for us. What the hell man? Nick actually kind
Speaker 1: of set this up perfectly for me because if I
Speaker 1: don't know, I know you listened to it, but if
Speaker 1: you didn't listen to our show yesterday with me and
Speaker 1: Brian brought us, we're on it. We kind of got
Speaker 1: into it about the preseason and the value of it,
Speaker 1: and I basically said that the Cowboys offense looked phenomenal.
Speaker 1: They I mean, they went out there, they had two drives. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Darren McCadden fumbled, but they looked like a machine. And
Speaker 1: I don't need or want to see any more from
Speaker 1: them in the preseason there. I mean, if you have
Speaker 1: made a Pro Bowl for the Cowboys, you're done as
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned. In games, practice is a little
Speaker 1: different matter in my opinion. And Brian let me have it.
Speaker 1: He told me I was an idiot. He told me
Speaker 1: players play, and then sure enough, twelve hours later, Odell
Speaker 1: Beckham certainly looked for the world like his season might
Speaker 1: excuse me, be over and again, and we were just
Speaker 1: talking about it. I think he's he's one of the
Speaker 1: three to six most electrifying players in the NFL today.
Speaker 1: I don't think if he played, If he doesn't play
Speaker 1: another snap in the preseason, but he's ready for Week one,
Speaker 1: I think he'll be just fine. Would y'all say you
Speaker 1: agree with that? I already the fact that you even
Speaker 1: needed that long I disagree. I mean, there is a
Speaker 1: certain level of player in the NFL, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: where it's just your it's go time, you're good. Does
Speaker 1: does Jason Witten? I mean, does he need preseason reps?
Speaker 1: Do you think he's not gonna magically get open against
Speaker 1: the Giants lineback witnesses? And to be honestly, I'm okay
Speaker 1: if Witten didn't play, because not only do I think
Speaker 1: because of his experience, he'll be fine, but also think
Speaker 1: that I kind of want to see some of those
Speaker 1: other tight ends in there and some of those situations
Speaker 1: just to see but because I know once the season
Speaker 1: gets here that probably ain't gonna happen. But I kind
Speaker 1: of agree what Nate was saying yesterday from the standpoint
Speaker 1: there are other positions that you need to see them,
Speaker 1: like that that left guard spot. You still need to
Speaker 1: see him against what will be a better defense in
Speaker 1: Oakland than what you played against the Colts. And you
Speaker 1: want to see him with the other guys he would
Speaker 1: be presumably playing with in games when the regular season starts.
Speaker 1: So from that standpoint, I kind of disagree with you.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I disagree theoretically with you. A
Speaker 1: pro bowler that's been in the league for many, many years,
Speaker 1: he's not going to get a whole lot out of
Speaker 1: an out of what twelve reps in a preseason game,
Speaker 1: a half in a preseason game, whatever it's going to be.
Speaker 1: I get that, I get that, But I do think
Speaker 1: because this special circumstance at the left guard position, that's
Speaker 1: what gives me a little pause on this particular situation practice, right,
Speaker 1: But you know, you look at it from from both sides. Okay,
Speaker 1: this defense is the defensive line has a lot of
Speaker 1: question marks. What they're going to face the Raiders. Do
Speaker 1: you want the Raiders to do the same thing when
Speaker 1: you like the Raiders to play their guys, Because I
Speaker 1: think it'd be a good barometer to see what the
Speaker 1: Cowboys can do it going up against an offensive line
Speaker 1: absolutely probably the second best, if not the best, you know,
Speaker 1: depending on they're among the top three in the league.
Speaker 1: They've got three Pro bowlers across the line. Too, so
Speaker 1: I would I would love to see them. So, I mean,
Speaker 1: I get your point, and I understand it. The risk
Speaker 1: reward doesn't seem like it's it's there that much. But
Speaker 1: you know, for two weeks if you rest them, now
Speaker 1: you know you're sitting sitting them for basically three full
Speaker 1: weeks before you play. I'd put them out there, but
Speaker 1: maybe gone to the days of just a straight dress
Speaker 1: rehearsal for a whole half. You know, I could, I
Speaker 1: could handle a quarter maybe, And I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the whole thing that stemmed this was how good they looked.
Speaker 1: I mean, if they'd gone out there and stunk up
Speaker 1: the joint against the Colts. Maybe I'm rethinking this, but
Speaker 1: I just if you've made a Pro Bowl in the NFL,
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about you. And and you know you
Speaker 1: can come back at me and say, who they sat
Speaker 1: for two weeks and sucked in the playoffs. I don't
Speaker 1: really buy that either. I think there's I mean, you're
Speaker 1: going against Aaron Rodgers that I think that's a completely
Speaker 1: different circumstance. And if they if they need a half
Speaker 1: or even a game to get it ready, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe they're rusty so what at least they're all
Speaker 1: healthy and and I'm sorry, but I don't buy that
Speaker 1: a quarter and a half in a preseason game where
Speaker 1: everybody knows there's nothing at stake is going to make
Speaker 1: the difference between whether you score a touchdown against the
Speaker 1: Giants on your opening possession or not. I don't believe that.
Speaker 1: And I just you know it's not ideal. Jonathan Cooper
Speaker 1: needs reps and it would help him to have those
Speaker 1: guys out there. Sure, it would be great for DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence to go against um Gabe Jackson and Awesome Melee
Speaker 1: or whatever the guy's name is for the Raiders. Who
Speaker 1: I mean, they have an awesome offensive line. But I
Speaker 1: wouldn't blame the Raiders one bit if they said, all
Speaker 1: those guys that's how you're going to make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: That's what this is all about. And so let me
Speaker 1: ask a bigger pick picked your question. Would would your
Speaker 1: opinion change they should cancel preseason? Well? I wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: say cancel, but let's let's do for a second they
Speaker 1: had only two preseason games. Would you play starters more?
Speaker 1: If they only had two preseason games, then then what
Speaker 1: they play right now? I would then what you think
Speaker 1: they should play right now? I would play the starters
Speaker 1: for like, I would give the starters the same amount
Speaker 1: of work that they got against the Colts if the
Speaker 1: preseason was shorter. That's what I would do. I'd give
Speaker 1: him a half, maybe a half. I'd give him a
Speaker 1: half of the through about the entire preseason. I'd probably
Speaker 1: give him half of the first game. And that's it.
Speaker 1: Not that I would No, they're not doing that, but
Speaker 1: if it, I would shorten five this year. I would
Speaker 1: shorten the preseason it's getting longer for some reason, played
Speaker 1: two games, and I would keep the regular season at sixteen.
Speaker 1: I that's I hate this notion of shortening the preseason
Speaker 1: and then extending the regular season. I don't like that
Speaker 1: either because I actually liked that that concept because sixteen,
Speaker 1: Like I've covered this team for four years now, I
Speaker 1: see like everybody's dead by the time December rolls around,
Speaker 1: like this game and the schedule is brutal, and you're
Speaker 1: already making these guys play games on four days rest
Speaker 1: and some guy at least one if everybody's dead, but simber,
Speaker 1: how is it you have such good playoff games in January?
Speaker 1: A combination. I mean, the teams that get hot are
Speaker 1: usually the ones that stay the healthiest or the ones
Speaker 1: that get their guys back. I mean, I'll always think
Speaker 1: back to, which is, yeah, that's That's kind of the
Speaker 1: reason why I think it's a good idea is because
Speaker 1: if you got eighteen games now, you do have a
Speaker 1: little bit of chance for for teams to kind of
Speaker 1: if someone gets hurt early, they're back in time and
Speaker 1: they're still ready for playoffs. You got some fresh legs
Speaker 1: in there if you had a guy that's been out
Speaker 1: for duty, injury, or whatever the case might be, and
Speaker 1: teams can kind of play that too, Like maybe there
Speaker 1: is some of that during the season. You take a
Speaker 1: game where maybe a guy doesn't play, if you've got
Speaker 1: a long enough season to do that. The Cowboys reported
Speaker 1: to camp on July twenty second this year, and they'll
Speaker 1: be playing football until at least December thirty first. That's
Speaker 1: just insane to me. And if you're extending the regular season,
Speaker 1: then you're either having them playing games in August or
Speaker 1: January like regular season games. Either way, it's just I
Speaker 1: think it's more than the human body was meant to take. Like,
Speaker 1: this game is absolutely brutal, and I don't think there's
Speaker 1: a big enough emphasis put on player safety just as
Speaker 1: a general rule across the board. Yeah, that's just my
Speaker 1: opinion though. All right, um so is that end of
Speaker 1: your rant? Pretty much? I just I just thought it
Speaker 1: was funny timing that hours after I made this point,
Speaker 1: we almost lost your boy one of one. Hey, he's
Speaker 1: my guy from LSU. I love him, I'll always love him,
Speaker 1: and I love watching him play football. I would be
Speaker 1: devastated if I didn't get to watch Odell Beckham play football.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, if if he was out for a
Speaker 1: whole year, He's way up there on the list of
Speaker 1: guys I would be. That would be a bummer if
Speaker 1: he lost a year of his career. So don't play
Speaker 1: anymore in the preseason, Odell or any Cowboys players for
Speaker 1: that moll, I think now, I'm it's hard to agree
Speaker 1: with that. I keep thinking about all your thoughts on this,
Speaker 1: and you gotta remember practice it's not the same, it's
Speaker 1: not the same action you get during the game. And
Speaker 1: I'm and I personally am willing to risk the sloppiness
Speaker 1: that comes from the missed reps if it means that
Speaker 1: all my guys are there. You're willing to miss you.
Speaker 1: You're willing to accept the fact that maybe you lose
Speaker 1: the first two games because you're not as ready. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's not ideal, but I'd rather have all hands on
Speaker 1: deck than get twenty extra reps in the preseat. Again,
Speaker 1: these guys can't get hurt in practice. No, of course
Speaker 1: they can. And I mean, and that they could go
Speaker 1: out and get hurt on the first play of the
Speaker 1: regular season. At least it mattered. At least they sure that.
Speaker 1: I mean, they can drop their iPhone or whatever. I mean,
Speaker 1: that happens happen. Obviously, anything can happen all the time.
Speaker 1: But again, you're managing your risks, and I if you've
Speaker 1: made a Pro Bowl for me, I don't want to
Speaker 1: lose you in a game that doesn't have to happen.
Speaker 1: I don't have to put you out there if I
Speaker 1: don't want to. You have to go out in practice,
Speaker 1: you have to do that, but you don't have to
Speaker 1: play in a preseason game. All right, let's move Well,
Speaker 1: let's get some questions before we end the show. We
Speaker 1: got a call from Matt in West Virginia. Matt, what up? Hey, guys, Hey,
Speaker 1: I want to thank every everybody from Cabalry Nations about
Speaker 1: all your show from Kent, all the personalities. Thank you, Derek.
Speaker 1: I mean, we just love it. I mean I don't
Speaker 1: listen to anything the NFL network anything, especially when there's turmoils.
Speaker 1: We really appreciate. I had two points real quick, Nick
Speaker 1: brought up. The first one was you know cut Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore bringing back to the practice squad that you've got
Speaker 1: an extra position for three or four spots you know,
Speaker 1: on the roster or whether it's secondary, you know, offensive line,
Speaker 1: why receient whatever. My main point is the Zeke thing.
Speaker 1: If the judicial system finds, you know, someone innocent, why
Speaker 1: would the NFL like do a witch hunt when to me,
Speaker 1: the the crime or not crime has been decided outside
Speaker 1: of you know, the NFL. I think it's given the
Speaker 1: NFL a break not to pursue and bringing the you know,
Speaker 1: the shield down or are bringing a bad name to
Speaker 1: the product when they have an easy out where the
Speaker 1: you know, the the law has said there's no problem.
Speaker 1: So I just feel like for them to you know,
Speaker 1: drag things out, and we're all cowboy homers, but for
Speaker 1: them to when it's easy for them to get out
Speaker 1: of that. I can understand the Brady thing that's in house,
Speaker 1: you know, that's on their watch. But when it's the
Speaker 1: when it seems like it's taken care of, why drag
Speaker 1: it out? You know it's taking care of you guys
Speaker 1: understand what I'm saying. Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying.
Speaker 1: And I think one thing, and we appreciate the call.
Speaker 1: I think one thing that you may be forgetting is
Speaker 1: is just by saying that that the police have kind of, uh,
Speaker 1: either close the book on it doesn't mean that it's over.
Speaker 1: You got to remember sometimes these college towns they're fans
Speaker 1: of the team too, and and and when you talking
Speaker 1: about alumni boosters, I'm not saying that happened in Columbus.
Speaker 1: I know that it happens in other places though that
Speaker 1: that you don't necessarily, you know, they take it easy
Speaker 1: on these guys in college of what's happening there. So
Speaker 1: just because that that maybe the police or didn't find
Speaker 1: or didn't charge ar these players, that doesn't mean that
Speaker 1: they didn't do things. And I'm really not trying to
Speaker 1: say that's exactly what's happening here. But I think the
Speaker 1: NFL is right to a certain extent of looking into
Speaker 1: it as well. But I do think they've gone overboard
Speaker 1: and others, and especially in the way they dragged it out.
Speaker 1: I think what happened a few years ago was the
Speaker 1: way that whole thing went down with Ray Rice and
Speaker 1: how there was kind of one penalty and then they
Speaker 1: found the video and the league absolutely got slaughtered after
Speaker 1: the video came out, like you didn't handle this properly.
Speaker 1: I think because of that, the league has taken more
Speaker 1: of a step of Look, we don't care what any
Speaker 1: anybody else says, courts whomever. We're gonna investigated ourselves. We're
Speaker 1: gonna come up with all the things we think are evidence,
Speaker 1: and then we're going to make a decision that best
Speaker 1: protects the NFL. And so, make no mistake about it,
Speaker 1: this decision about Zeke Elliott, at least in the league's perspective,
Speaker 1: whether we all agree with it or not, in the
Speaker 1: league's perspective, they feel like they're doing what's best for
Speaker 1: the reputation of the NFL. And that's really what it
Speaker 1: comes down to. This is not about legal right and wrong.
Speaker 1: This is about them doing what they feel like is
Speaker 1: best for the shield. That's really what it comes down to,
Speaker 1: and not Lee. Honestly, I appreciate that. And you could
Speaker 1: argue seven different ways from Sunday about the Zeke situation
Speaker 1: whether it's justified. He's never charged with anything, but I
Speaker 1: kind of appreciate that they are going to hold their
Speaker 1: employees to a higher standard and they have the power
Speaker 1: to discipline people for I maybe maybe you didn't get
Speaker 1: charged with the crime, but if you messed up, they
Speaker 1: can still they can still hit you for that, and
Speaker 1: I kind of appreciate that. I think the Zeke situation
Speaker 1: is a little bit different. I think, you know, I
Speaker 1: certainly think it's convoluted. I certainly think there should be
Speaker 1: more to it than you know, the opinion of one person.
Speaker 1: I think there's ways you can regulate this, certainly keep
Speaker 1: it from being too drawn out. But yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: I mean the Cowboys could do the same thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: I could goof up, and just because I'm not going
Speaker 1: to jail for it, doesn't mean I couldn't get fired.
Speaker 1: You hold your employees to the standards you want to
Speaker 1: hold them too. And also, and also the thing about
Speaker 1: the NFL that I think they need to better on
Speaker 1: it to be consistent were around the league of guys
Speaker 1: that you're punishing for this. Guys, you're punishing for this
Speaker 1: because this guy is a reserve backup that you don't
Speaker 1: don't you don't know who he is. And this guy
Speaker 1: over here has played in three Pro Bowls. I mean,
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful. The way they come to these
Speaker 1: decisions is all kinds of wrong in my opinion, but
Speaker 1: the fact that they have the power to make them,
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with that. All right, guys,
Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us. We are back tomorrow for a
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