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Speaker 3: This is Mick Shots, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 3: and the official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones,

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Speaker 3: Hecma Harrison, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 4: Well there's no joy in Mudville as we begin a

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Speaker 4: new week here without Everson Walls once again. Once again,

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Speaker 4: when they going gets tough, the tough get going.

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Speaker 5: That's right, that's right.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 4: Welcome to mix Shots, and yes, despite what happened on Sunday,

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Speaker 4: Heckma says, welcome in s w BC podcast studio. Oh man,

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Speaker 4: we were supposed to forget that at midnight last night, right,

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Speaker 4: the midnight rule is in effect. We're moving on.

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Speaker 5: Right, still sucking my cross.

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Speaker 2: We got a stew in this for a minute.

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Speaker 6: Uh huh.

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Speaker 7: This is one of those ones. You know you said,

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Speaker 7: twelve o'clock midnight tonight.

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, that's what shot he says, you forget. He

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Speaker 4: forgets win or lose midnight the day of the game,

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Speaker 4: because they learned that from as Papa.

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Speaker 5: I bet he hasn't.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, So, but what where do we start Bill, Come on, somebody, somebody, well, anybody,

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Speaker 7: well scream.

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Speaker 4: Remember a couple of weeks ago, I had glass half full? Class, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: where's your cup?

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Speaker 2: Where's your cup? Bring your cup back?

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Speaker 4: Bill, No reason for it?

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Speaker 5: It got it got empty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah it was empty.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Where are we on that right now? No? Me, no me,

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Speaker 2: I'm look. I'm sure you guys have heard it.

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Speaker 7: You've been a part of all the discussions that's been

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Speaker 7: happening on social media.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys. Social media is on fire right now.

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Speaker 5: That's why I stay off of it.

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Speaker 7: Make you would know if the world was ending, if

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Speaker 7: you were getting your news from social media.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but it's right now.

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Speaker 7: Man, there's a there's a lot of different opinions, and

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Speaker 7: I'll just start with mine. I think right now, as

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Speaker 7: far as just take the offense out of it defensively,

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Speaker 7: this is probably as worse to showing as we you know,

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Speaker 7: when it comes down to it was before stopping the past.

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Speaker 7: Now in the last couple of weeks, it's been stopping

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Speaker 7: to run. I watched a guy in Ricodoubele make a

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Speaker 7: promise and deliver on that promise, and that was nothing

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Speaker 7: that our defense could do to stop it. You know,

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Speaker 7: that Carolina lined Say that again, yeah well, yeah, well

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Speaker 7: Carolina lined up and they put a hat on a

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Speaker 7: hat and they whooped us.

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Speaker 2: And you can't. You can make all the excuses and

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Speaker 2: it can be.

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Speaker 7: The the ebra flus whatever you want to do. When

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Speaker 7: guys just don't show up to the party, when guys

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Speaker 7: are not establishing the line of scrimmage, when your linebackers

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Speaker 7: just for lack of the guy in front of them

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Speaker 7: blowing assignments but not getting to the tackle, not making

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Speaker 7: the tackle, and secondary wise, the communication is completely off.

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Speaker 7: And how many times have we seen guys look at

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Speaker 7: one another with this expression?

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Speaker 2: Right here? Turn and what were you supposed to do?

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Speaker 7: Well?

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Speaker 2: What am I supposed? What am I supposed to do?

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Speaker 7: And there are some usual suspects always around the misfortune,

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Speaker 7: And I don't know. Donovan Wilson is one of those

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Speaker 7: worst a start as any safety could have right now.

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Speaker 7: But you gotta ask, you gotta it begs the question

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Speaker 7: what is he looking at? Sometimes?

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Speaker 2: What is he? What is he?

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Speaker 7: If your assignment is you know, past this deep third?

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Speaker 7: Why are you trying to jump something in front of you?

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Speaker 7: Why is your responsible if you're responsibly like you hear

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Speaker 7: teams and you hear coaches say it all the time.

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Speaker 7: Bill Belichick always says this, do your job, and if

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Speaker 7: you do your job, you let another guy do his

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Speaker 7: and then you won't have two guys in the same area.

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Speaker 7: But I'm just watching this game on Sunday, and I'm

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Speaker 7: saying to myself, this is this is about as bad

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Speaker 7: the brand of ball that they're playing and the way

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Speaker 7: me is what's laughable and what's embarrassing for all Dallas

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Speaker 7: question mark around all of this. And you know, I

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Speaker 7: think through the week we're gonna try and find the answers,

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Speaker 7: but I don't know if you're ever gonna get an answer.

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Speaker 7: If you're gonna keep these same personnel, same guys running

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Speaker 5: Well, you don't have many choices, do you.

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Speaker 8: No. Okay, they exhausted the roster out there. Here's the

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Speaker 8: worst part and Donovan Wilson. They basically told you what

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Speaker 8: they were gonna do. You know those old restaurants that

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Speaker 5: Ric o'donald told you what they were gonna do.

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Speaker 8: They came out and I haven't counted it up, but

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Speaker 8: I'll guarantee you the far majority of their formations was

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Speaker 5: So what are you gonna do when you got two

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Speaker 8: We're gonna run the ball. They put three tight ends

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Speaker 5: What are they gonna do. They're gonna run the football.

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Speaker 4: Except on the second play of the game, where they

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Speaker 4: put three tight ends out there and they threw it

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Speaker 8: Tight ends because because no one covered them right, no

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Speaker 5: He just got a free release down the field.

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Speaker 8: That's the most rushing yards they've given up seventeen games ago.

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Speaker 8: They gave up two hundred and twenty three. They gave

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Speaker 8: up two hundred and sixteen yards rushing. They made no

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Speaker 8: the worst part. It's not ric o'doddle. I could have

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Speaker 8: run through some of those holes. Schottenheimer pointed out after

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Speaker 8: the game that seventy five to eighty percent of their

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Speaker 5: And that was the problem. The defensive line was getting mauled.

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Speaker 8: I mean mauled to the point where they were knocking

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Speaker 8: they were playing two tight ends. The Cowboys were in

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Speaker 8: don't need Ready Stewart, Ready Stewart up there right trying

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Speaker 8: have that happen to you, you're going to turn Bryce

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Speaker 4: You know, and I haven't had a chance but to

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Speaker 4: then if you look at the first series shame to

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Speaker 4: where it appeared it was two tight ends on one

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Speaker 4: of those eighty seven. Bryce and Tremaine is actually a

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Speaker 4: But he is a bigger wide receiver, and he's kind

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Speaker 4: So that's who and that's that's the point is he

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Speaker 8: It just you know, and it just continued and continued

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Speaker 4: To kick a field goal.

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Speaker 5: Couldn't they couldn't stop them fourth and four? Right?

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Speaker 8: Why is Bland playing eight nine yards off the receiver?

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Speaker 4: All he had to do is come out of this

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all he had to do is come out.

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Speaker 4: I mean Greg called it at the snap. They're going

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I could even see that, right, and his first

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Speaker 5: I can't believe that's.

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Speaker 8: Where he was supposed to line up. I just can't

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Speaker 8: and they weren't perfect. They kicked two field goals inside

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Speaker 5: Can't have that.

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Speaker 8: And you guys have heard me say it, more field

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Speaker 5: Gotta have touchdowns.

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Speaker 8: They left eight points on the field because they couldn't

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Speaker 8: the football thirty one years, thirty one years thirty one rushing?

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Speaker 5: Are you kidding me? What happened?

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Speaker 8: What happened to that great defensive offensive line? Got two

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Speaker 7: But yeah, this is when you bring up that really

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Speaker 7: to be closer to than that and to at least

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Speaker 7: defend to the sticks. And when you don't defend to

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Speaker 7: you this. And it'd be a different thing if Murray,

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Speaker 7: whatever he's contemplating at that schematically, if you don't want

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Speaker 7: four and I'm just saying, cheat over. She just cheat

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Speaker 7: over some and we can talk about Bland whatever the

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Speaker 2: And I'm yelling time out. I'm yelling call time out.

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Speaker 7: Don't allow this play to run because everybody that mother

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Speaker 7: I feel like that is that's not smart football. But

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Speaker 7: that's just I'm using the right words. It's just not

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Speaker 7: smart football when you have guys that have played the

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Speaker 2: Was a throw.

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Speaker 7: It was a throw by the way that Bryce Young

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Speaker 7: and he took the one that you gave him defensively,

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Speaker 7: And as you just guys just said, look, you're getting

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Speaker 5: Well, they tried it with some success.

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Speaker 8: They start playing a five man front and it did

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and.

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Speaker 8: They just don't We've said this before. They don't seem

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Speaker 2: Same one.

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Speaker 5: It's not like they were fooling you.

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Speaker 8: They basically told you what they were gonna do, and

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Speaker 2: Laugh, Well a Teto McMillan who.

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Speaker 5: Hadn't had a touchdown catch yet.

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Speaker 7: Well he did, he did, he did. He got him too,

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Speaker 7: He got him too yesterday. But we made that guys

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Speaker 7: the other Horn, the other Horn, made him look good

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Speaker 2: It. It was a it was a mess.

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Speaker 8: But you know what, and it was but you still

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Speaker 8: They got to score thirty points or more to win.

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Speaker 7: Twenty seven, Mickey, in all these years that you've been doing,

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Speaker 2: Seven on the road.

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Speaker 5: Oh, that would be great.

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Speaker 7: Twenty seven on the road, Mick, Like, you'll take that anywhere.

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Speaker 7: If I told you, if I told you Friday they

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Speaker 8: Just count up how many points they've given up losing, right.

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Speaker 5: Twenty four was the fewest.

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Speaker 8: Wow scored forty and couldn't win. Wow had a tie,

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Speaker 4: On the fourth and four or fourth and three whatever

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Speaker 4: and but in what formation Carolina has their empty formation?

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Speaker 4: The gap between where is it Thomas or and whereas

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Speaker 4: what was supposed to happen there. But before that, before that,

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Speaker 4: there were checkdowns after that because now you're second and

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Speaker 5: Yard laws or eight yards twenty two.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it gets back to what you pointed out, Mickey,

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Speaker 4: And so I think when Schottenheimer looks at things he's

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Speaker 4: He's talking on offense. And the inability to run the

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Speaker 8: And to set that up, they're at the forty six.

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Speaker 8: They need ten fifteen yards to be in field goal range.

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Speaker 8: Right now, you don't want a field goal there, you

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Speaker 5: They end up losing yards instead of going forward.

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Speaker 5: But they try a bad.

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Speaker 4: Run, you get one yard, two yards. Now you're second, second,

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Speaker 8: And they tried to fool them with that rollout and

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Speaker 4: To Williams and they had it stuff.

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Speaker 5: And it didn't at that point where well they they.

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Speaker 4: Had basically screams forming on either side where I think

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Speaker 4: it was. Fillinoy was in motion and he was not

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Speaker 2: To I think at that point.

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Speaker 7: At that point, Bill, that defensive line for the Carolina Panthers,

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Speaker 4: We local guys, Ashawn Robinson from Marlington Heights and Bobby Brown.

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Speaker 7: Yes, they cowboy fans since birth. And I'm assuming that

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Speaker 7: I don't know, but I know that those guys the

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Speaker 4: And most we didn't even mention Derek Brown.

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Speaker 7: No, imagine that right, And so you're saying, we're gonna

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Speaker 7: away something. And they were successful at taking away the run,

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Speaker 7: and my philosophy at that point is George Pickens is

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Speaker 2: All right?

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Speaker 7: And I understand sharing this distribution to everybody else, but man,

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Speaker 2: There's nothing.

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Speaker 7: They had no answer for George Pickens the entire game.

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Speaker 7: Allow him to eat, move him around, put him in

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Speaker 7: do something with him.

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Speaker 2: At that point where you throw him the ball.

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Speaker 7: I'm talking about, when you get to that point, go

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Speaker 7: allow it to be you didn't throw it to him.

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Speaker 7: You didn't throw it to him.

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Speaker 5: Did they think that?

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Speaker 7: I don't know, but I'm saying at that point, it

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Speaker 7: doesn't matter what they thought. You shoard nine at nine

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Speaker 7: catches one hundred and sixty eight yards. It didn't matter

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Speaker 5: They might have tripled team them.

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Speaker 7: Well, they had better triple team them because they couldn't

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Speaker 7: stop it. Is what I'm saying, And when you can't

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Speaker 7: stop it, keep feeding it, because that's exactly what they

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Speaker 7: I'msa say, I'm gonna keep yelling it.

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Speaker 4: What was the biggest play on that outside of the

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Speaker 5: First down, right, they own first down?

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Speaker 4: The game is over when because now you've got to

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Speaker 4: with just two timeouts left, you don't have enough time

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Speaker 5: I believe I packed up my stuff at that mm hmm,

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Speaker 2: Was time to go head down.

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Speaker 4: What end of the game wasn't the fourth and three?

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Speaker 4: It was the nine yard run on first and ten

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Speaker 7: And you could not we would And I've heard others

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Speaker 2: They owned us.

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Speaker 7: I mean, if if Rico Daldle was playing flag football,

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Speaker 4: The most telling thing, is the only head eight third

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Speaker 2: It's just it's one of those games.

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Speaker 7: And I never like to see a game where I

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Speaker 2: But this would have been that game.

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Speaker 7: If I'd come into any game where Dak should have,

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Speaker 7: He made opportunities happen down the field, and he again

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Speaker 7: Dak Prescott lights out, and he's gonna have one of

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Speaker 7: And God bless us all when that happens, because I

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Speaker 4: All right, I'm going to show y'all the end zone

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Speaker 4: All right, real quick, we don't need to dwell on it.

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Speaker 4: But on this fourth four play, the slant to Renfro,

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Speaker 4: we were looking at the end zone copy and that

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Speaker 4: gives you the proper perspective on the spacing on the

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Speaker 4: defensive line and the linebackers and so forth. And basically,

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Speaker 4: just in a nutshell, what you had here the alignment

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Speaker 4: that the Cowboys had defensively whatever game that they were

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Speaker 4: running to try to get to the quarterback. On that play,

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Speaker 4: you've got three defensive linemen to let's this is from

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Speaker 4: the Cowboys perspective to the right side of the hash

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Speaker 4: mark on the right side, okay, and you had Azeraku,

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Speaker 4: who was the lone defensive lineman on the left side.

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Speaker 4: He was on the hash mark on the other side.

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Speaker 4: So Murray is in the gap between It looks like

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Speaker 4: Solomon Thomas and Aseraku, which is basically if you just

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Speaker 4: picture the hash marks, okay, You've got no defender, no

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Speaker 4: defensive line between the hash marks, and so Murray is

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Speaker 4: the guy that is is the one defender that is

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Speaker 4: in that spot. Carolina is running an empty backfield right there.

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Speaker 4: You have to have a defender there to guard against

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Speaker 4: the quarterback draw because you got three offensive linemen between

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Speaker 4: those hash marks. And so that's why Murray was situated

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Speaker 4: where he was. In the alignment that the Cowboys had.

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Speaker 4: They Blands playing off on the slot Carolina's left side

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Speaker 4: of their offense. He's in the slot, he's playing off

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Speaker 4: and so is easy pickings for Renfro to run the

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Speaker 4: slant and get the throw, and Murray didn't have time

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Speaker 4: to get over and get back to defend it. They

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Speaker 4: could have run the Legett is lined up in the

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Speaker 4: slot to the right side with the Cowboy defender with

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Speaker 4: outside leverage on him. If he runs a slant, Murray's

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Speaker 4: in great position to defend that.

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Speaker 7: So but Murray's responsibility was clearly the other side because

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Speaker 7: that's where he goes as soon as the ball is snaw.

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Speaker 5: I think he read that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, he's not coming on, he's throwing, and so he

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Speaker 4: got there. He's breeding the quarterback's eyes and that's where

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Speaker 4: he's going. There's time to get there.

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Speaker 7: There's no way he if he was that far over

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Speaker 7: to the left or the offense is right, there's no

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Speaker 7: way that he would have gotten there in time anyway.

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Speaker 4: Which is why got to play.

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Speaker 7: And then based off of that alignment that you just shown,

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Speaker 7: even if they decided to go with a quarterback sneak,

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Speaker 7: they still would have picked up the four yards because

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Speaker 7: of the space between him and the next defender.

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Speaker 2: Right, there's no way.

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Speaker 7: I mean, they got a space between the back of

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Speaker 7: that wall into mix shots that they would.

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Speaker 4: Have had to free offensive lineman to block Murray. They

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Speaker 4: could have run the quarterback draw.

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Speaker 5: There wasn't another linebacker out there was there.

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Speaker 4: I've got to look. Let me back up to see where.

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Speaker 2: You got to widden your angle to find the next linebacker.

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Speaker 4: The angle here, yeah, I can't get it up.

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Speaker 7: But either way, man, that's that's one of the they

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Speaker 7: caught you. They caught you, and they could have obviously

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Speaker 7: still Bryce Young had this option to either throwing the

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Speaker 7: slant to the get or throwing the slant to imminently

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Speaker 7: who would end up going to.

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Speaker 4: So what you had Marquise Bell out there. Bell was

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Speaker 4: out Bell was out there. They had trips right, and

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Speaker 4: then two receivers to the left, and you had Digs

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Speaker 4: and maybe maybe Steward. No, that's Bland. That's Digs and

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Speaker 4: Bland were Diggs had the slot guy right. Diggs has

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Speaker 4: the outside receiver on the left side. Bland had the slot.

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Speaker 4: That's what I meant, right, And then on the other

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Speaker 4: side he had three DB's on the left side. And

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Speaker 4: you had one year playing a he was in Chapel

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Speaker 4: Hill save trade.

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Speaker 7: So while I mean, seriously, they got far back his

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Speaker 7: other open screen.

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Speaker 4: He's nineteen yards off the line of scrimmage. He's at

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Speaker 4: the twenty one yard line on fourth and why oh my, yes,

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Speaker 4: it literally Chapel Hill. I mean seriously, the ball is

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Speaker 4: just inside the forty and I believe it's Wan Yer

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Speaker 4: whoever the deep safety is. It's single high the deep

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Speaker 4: safety is at the twenty one yard line, nineteen yards

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Speaker 4: off the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 8: So they were gambling that they were going to go

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Speaker 8: for it all.

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Speaker 4: So do we think do we think that that the

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Speaker 4: coach lined them up there? That's what we don't know

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Speaker 4: exactly right. It reminds me of I remember this is

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Speaker 4: going back when Roy Williams was playing safety for the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: It reminds me I think it was a game against

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Speaker 4: San Francisco, and basically it was a fourth and two

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Speaker 4: or a third and two situation where clearly they end

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Speaker 4: the game if they get a first down. They were

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Speaker 4: in their own end of the field third and two,

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Speaker 4: and Roy is playing twenty yards back in the secondary.

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's no and it's like three tight ends.

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Speaker 4: It's a bunch formation, and he's playing twenty yards back safety.

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Speaker 7: And that's what Hey, that's why Bill I was screaming

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Speaker 7: time out, time out.

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Speaker 2: The alignment is all wrong cause, as.

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Speaker 4: It turned out, you didn't have enough timeouts anyway. If

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Speaker 4: they get the if they get the first out, you've

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Speaker 4: already burned wal You've already burned walk.

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Speaker 7: So you're gonna I mean, and here's the thing, I mean,

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Speaker 7: this is the one catch he made was the one

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Speaker 7: to just pretty much ended all Hunter refro. One catch

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Speaker 7: for seven yards. That's literally all he needed.

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Speaker 8: Okay, So what did you guys think of the interference

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Speaker 8: call on third and seven? Oh, on Kyrie at the

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Speaker 8: seventeen yard lineep, Yeah, that.

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Speaker 5: Guy was falling. Look, it's like even Olsen said it,

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Speaker 5: it's like.

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Speaker 7: Quarter yeah, arguing flags in the NFL. It's just this

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Speaker 7: that this man and I looked, I saw another interference

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Speaker 7: with Diggs. It was Diggs and Ready Stewart. They both

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Speaker 7: committed it at the same time.

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Speaker 4: So I mean that that was obvious. That was obvious,

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Speaker 4: and this and the question on that was there there

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Speaker 4: was a defensive hold on Steward. And remember the officials

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Speaker 4: got together, and I would imagine their conversation was was

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Speaker 4: digs hold? Was it was a ball in the air?

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Speaker 4: Was it a past interference rather than a hold?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: And I think they called both of them. I mean

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Speaker 4: basically you couldn't miss both of them, and they just

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Speaker 4: determined the ball wasn't in the air on the Digs one,

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Speaker 4: and so they called it on Stewart.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, the one on Kyrie, Alam, I really looked. I

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Speaker 7: didn't think it was as egregious as any of the

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Speaker 7: other ones that I've seen.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was a hard one to call.

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Speaker 4: But but even then, okay, all right, so they got

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Speaker 4: the call. Now it's first down at the twenty nine

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Speaker 4: yard line, and what happens on first at the twenty

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Speaker 4: nine yard line. Rico goes for nine yards. So twice

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Speaker 4: on that drive. Rico goes for nine yards on first

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Speaker 4: down there, and then after they converted the third and

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Speaker 4: one with the with the rollout and passed to Tremble,

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Speaker 4: Rico goes for four yards on first down, three yards

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Speaker 4: and okay, then they on the renfro what we talked

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Speaker 4: about before, first and ten at the thirty three yard line. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: Rico goes for nine. Game over. Yeah, and the game

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Speaker 4: started that way too, and it ended that to the

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Speaker 4: first drive of the game, which gets me to ask

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Speaker 4: this question. Okay, first play of the game, Rico goes

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Speaker 4: for nine yards. Then it's the the uh pass to

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Speaker 4: the tight end for twenty one, the rookie tight end

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Speaker 4: Mitchell elevens, and then Rico goes for twelve.

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Speaker 5: Okay, no one touched him and they had six.

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Speaker 4: They Cowboys started Marshawn Neeland at defensive end. He played

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Speaker 4: twenty snaps in the game. He missed last week with

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Speaker 4: an injury. He's got an ankle injury. And here's my question,

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Speaker 4: And so I feel for Marshawn Neelan because he was

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Speaker 4: limited in practice throughout the week. I had a question

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Speaker 4: whether he was even going to play just because of that. Okay,

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Speaker 4: he was. He didn't sit out any practice, but he

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Speaker 4: did miss last week's game. And so how many defensive

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Speaker 4: ends are on this roster? Who is the best run

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Speaker 4: defending defensive end on this Rosterlan Neeland is, So he

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Speaker 4: starts the game at defensive end, no One. They're going

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Speaker 4: to run the ball. It was obvious from the first

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Speaker 4: play of the game, Dowdle's nine yard run, which they

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Speaker 4: ran right at Nielan. And then on his second play

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Speaker 4: he's on skates as Tremble is the tight ends blocking him.

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Speaker 4: And I just feel for Kneelan that he's in this

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Speaker 4: position because clearly he cannot plant and defend the run

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Speaker 4: like he normally does.

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Speaker 2: But you do not.

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Speaker 4: This team misses DeMarcus Lawrence so much d law throughout

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Speaker 4: his career here, and it's a It's an unselfish thing

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Speaker 4: as a defensive end to defend the run because you

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Speaker 4: want sacks is what makes you money in this league.

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Speaker 4: And to de Law's credit, throughout his career, he was

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Speaker 4: a baller as far as defending the run. And the

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Speaker 4: Cowboys just don't have defensive ends. I think, as a rock,

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Speaker 4: who's going to get there? And I think that they

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Speaker 4: saw that on his tape at Boston College that he

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Speaker 4: can have that, but he's not there yet at his size.

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Speaker 4: But that's what this team I think is missing big time.

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Speaker 4: And the other part of it is there's such a

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Speaker 4: mindset and Micah had this mindset going after the quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: so much. You're crashing so much. What about setting the

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Speaker 4: edge on defense? Yep, it's not happening.

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Speaker 8: And if you go back and look at those runs

662
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Speaker 8: up the middle, they were double teaming both tacks.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, and they double team at both tackles to the

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Speaker 4: point where they're driving them back into the linebackers.

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Speaker 5: They're going, yeah, that's right, yep.

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Speaker 8: And they said we can single block these defensive vents

667
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Speaker 8: file and a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of times the defensive end's taking them out. They're blocking

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Speaker 4: them with wide receivers yeah, probably because the defensive end

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Speaker 4: is taking them. Sam Williams on It was on Dadle's

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Speaker 4: eight yard run at the twenty one yard line. Sam's

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Speaker 4: crashing and he almost got to the quarterback, but the

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Speaker 4: quarterback didn't have at all. Right, Rico's got the ball

674
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Speaker 4: and it was Legett who was supposedly blocking Williams, but

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Speaker 4: Sam he crashed and I was he coached to do that?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: The problem I have with that is they didn't start

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Speaker 7: that in that final drive. They did that for four

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Speaker 7: quarter and they that they pulled that off over and

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Speaker 7: over again, and at some point an adjustment has to

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Speaker 7: be made. I agree with you about Marcia and Neelan,

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Speaker 7: and I agree with you what you're saying about DeMarcus Lawrence,

684
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Speaker 7: but he ain't coming back through that right and even.

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Speaker 4: I'm not and I'm not saying because he's hurt right

686
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Speaker 4: now in Seattle at his age, I'm not saying that

687
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 4: they needed to re sign the DeMarcus Lawrence. But that

688
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 4: is what they're missing on this defensive line.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 7: And and Donovan as a Roco too, is to like

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Speaker 7: you said, a young guy that you see those flashes

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Speaker 7: of him being able to step up and stop the run.

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Speaker 7: But your linebacker and play linebacker play right now, is

694
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Speaker 7: is way below average.

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Speaker 4: Shamar is getting a lot of tackles.

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Speaker 2: But he's getting a lot of tackles.

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Speaker 4: Twelve yards downfield.

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Speaker 2: You know called tackling guys is wallet.

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Speaker 4: Not Rico's the play. I was talking about Rico's twelve

700
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Speaker 4: yard run or where tremble block Kneelan, Yeah, put him

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Speaker 4: on skates and uh, Chamar, it was a little counter

702
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Speaker 4: Dalbold had one step to the right. Well, Chamar went

703
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Speaker 4: to his left and then he's got to work through

704
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Speaker 4: the trash to get over He He probably got credited

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Speaker 4: with a tackle, but it was twelve yards downfield and

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Speaker 4: you're got a rookie line Brookie, it was one year

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Speaker 4: old linebacker.

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Speaker 5: It was so bad.

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Speaker 8: I don't think I even went to look at the

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Speaker 8: defensive stats after the game.

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Speaker 5: No, No, I just did.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 8: He had eleven tackles. Eleven tackles, Murray had seven, seven,

714
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Speaker 8: Wilson had.

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Speaker 4: Somebody's got to make the tackle.

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Speaker 8: Stop me when I get to a defensive lineman. Wilson

717
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Speaker 8: had six, Stewart had five, Leah File had four, a

718
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Speaker 8: while Sam Williams had four.

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Speaker 4: And James Houston actually had three or four tackles.

720
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Speaker 5: And Houston only Houston had four. Okay, but the guy

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Speaker 5: that did something was Lea File.

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Speaker 8: He had four tackles, one sack, one tackle for loss,

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Speaker 8: and one quarterback hit. They only hit the quarterback five times. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: one sack five times.

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Speaker 4: That's because they kept handing off and we thought they

726
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Speaker 4: had it fixed because they sacked the Jets five times. Yeah, no,

727
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Speaker 4: this is well, here's the other thing that we haven't

728
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Speaker 4: mentioned as far as the run defense. There's a first

729
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Speaker 4: round draft pick from two years ago that was inactive. Well, oh, Mazi, Yeah,

730
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Speaker 4: Mazzi was inactive, and so Joe, you've got the seventh

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Speaker 4: round rookie taking his spot.

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Speaker 2: And Toya didn't. That's why he didn't have his best game.

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Speaker 8: He was getting He couldn't deal with the double teams. Well,

734
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Speaker 8: he couldn't hold the ground.

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Speaker 2: That's that's I guess, Mickey.

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Speaker 7: That's where I am with this defense, because I think

737
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Speaker 7: a guy like Toya his entire career, he's been double team.

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Speaker 7: No one's been trying to single block any of these guys.

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Speaker 5: But he was a seventh round Now.

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Speaker 7: I understand I'm just saying what you're used to going

741
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Speaker 7: up against, what you're used to seeing the thing for.

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Speaker 7: You know, number ninety seven you got. These are guys

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Speaker 7: Osadiggie Zoo. They're used to seeing that. And here's the

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Speaker 7: other part about it is Kenny Clark. We are asking

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Speaker 7: Kenny Clark, just like we're asking Dak to be on

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Speaker 7: his A game each in every game, and he's trying

747
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Speaker 7: to hold it in the road. But he can't do

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Speaker 7: it by himself. He can't, I mean, especially if it's

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Speaker 7: all going the hell in the handbasket.

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Speaker 4: Around him and he's getting doubled triple, both of them

751
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Speaker 4: are getting doubled inside.

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Speaker 2: But you're looking at the alignment.

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Speaker 7: We just saw the alignment that had one linebacker with

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Speaker 7: three linemen in front of them.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's never gonna work.

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Speaker 7: That's never gonna work if you if you're asking Kenneth

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Speaker 7: Murray to take that on, he ain't that good.

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Speaker 4: Whether I think on that one, I think they were

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Speaker 4: clearly they're running a game to try to get this is.

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Speaker 2: Gonna stunt back into the whole some kind.

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Speaker 4: Of way, right, And they didn't feel like Young was

762
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Speaker 4: gonna run a quarterback draw ye know that size.

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Speaker 2: I guess that's a perfect time to gamble.

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Speaker 7: But you gambled wrong either way, because he's still completes

765
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Speaker 7: a seven yard passed to Hunter Renfro. Again, I don't

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Speaker 7: know what Duran Bland is thinking on that play. I

767
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Speaker 7: don't know why he would be set up so far

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Speaker 7: to the outside on the play like that when he

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Speaker 7: knows that they only have to go four yards to

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Speaker 7: get to the sticks? Why not set up at the sticks?

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Speaker 7: And I would think, would you think that Deron Bland

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Speaker 7: is a better zone or man cover which one? I mean,

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Speaker 7: I've always thought of him, and I always think of

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Speaker 7: him like Digs, You know, both of those guys. I

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Speaker 7: think they're better in short spaces than they are off

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Speaker 7: the ball.

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Speaker 8: And well they they weren't in zone on that he

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Speaker 8: knew that was his guy.

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Speaker 7: I'm just saying, when you're eight yards off the ball,

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Speaker 7: doesn't matter what you're in.

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Speaker 4: Well, did Bland think the safety was maybe ten yards

782
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Speaker 4: downfield instead of twenty yards downfield? I mean it would

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Speaker 4: have helped if the safe he lines up at the

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Speaker 4: thirty instead of the twenty one.

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Speaker 7: Right right right, And again, Mickey, I only bring that

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Speaker 7: up to say be closer to the line.

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Speaker 5: Of But you don't know what he was told to do.

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Speaker 2: Okay, it is fourth and fourth, but.

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Speaker 4: To that point, like he's got outside leverage on the slot,

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Speaker 4: and maybe he thought that the safety was playing up

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Speaker 4: at the ten yards off the line of scribbage instead

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Speaker 4: of twenty yards off and he's got help across the metal.

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Speaker 5: See, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: And there's a case to be careful what you hurt

795
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 8: wish for. Hooker's not in there now and everybody's on him, right,

796
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Speaker 8: he's not in there.

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Speaker 2: Fourth and four.

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Speaker 5: You're playing backups, free release. You're playing backups and a slant.

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Speaker 7: That's the easiest throw for the quarterback to pick up

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Speaker 7: four yards if that's what he's going for, and you're

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Speaker 7: already eight eight yards.

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Speaker 2: Nine yards on the ound.

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Speaker 4: Here's the other day.

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Speaker 2: We got to go to break.

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Speaker 4: As we talked about, there are three defensive linemen up

806
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 4: to that side of the field. That means you got

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Speaker 4: six hands there. That a five to ten quarterbas quarterbacks,

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Speaker 4: anybody got their hands five to eleven quarterback has to

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Speaker 4: throw through six hands.

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Speaker 2: Let me hit it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, now here we go. Anybody get their

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Speaker 2: Nobody, No nobody got their hands up.

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Speaker 4: All Right, we just got like a couple minutes out here,

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Speaker 8: Think we need to put some perspective on the loss.

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Speaker 4: Okay, let's do that.

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Speaker 8: So we talked on Friday about the Eagles getting beat,

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Speaker 8: and now you.

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Speaker 5: Down your leg and now you lose.

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Speaker 8: When you have an opportunity to be right in the race,

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Speaker 4: And you're just a half game ahead of the Giants now,

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Speaker 4: ahead of the Giants now, and that loss really gives perspective.

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Speaker 8: And I set it on Friday that this was going

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Speaker 8: to be a test to see where the Cowboys are.

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Speaker 8: All right, they were on somewhat of a role with

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Speaker 8: a tie a win. You win this game, you get

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Speaker 8: to three to two and one, and you're feeling good

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Speaker 8: about yourself, and you get beat and not just get beat,

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Speaker 8: you got beat beat. And this one's gonna hurt, and

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Speaker 8: it's going to take a lot to recover on Sunday

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Speaker 8: against Washington, which plays tonight. Correct, and it's almost like, Okay,

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Speaker 8: you're starting to get close to fading if you don't

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Speaker 8: recover and win a game.

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Speaker 4: You got Washington Sunday and then the following Sunday at Denver.

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Speaker 8: At Denver, and then is it Arizona on a Monday

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Speaker 8: night game.

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Speaker 5: Monday night game, so yeah, it's almost.

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00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 4: And then a Monday night game against Vegas after bye week.

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Speaker 8: I saw something Friday I thought was pretty clever at

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Speaker 8: a high school game. Every time the opposing team got

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Speaker 8: a penalty and they backed them up, I heard this

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00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 8: beeping go on, and I was looking behind me in

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Speaker 8: the stands because I was way up the time.

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Speaker 5: I go, why is that truck out there? No, they

887
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 5: were playing the beat beat beep as the truck.

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00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 8: Was backed up when they were were walking off the penalty,

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Speaker 8: and I said, oh, that's brilliant, right, And it made

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00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 8: me think the Cowboys right now, there's a beat beat

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00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 8: beep going on right now, backing up.

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Speaker 5: They're backing up.

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Speaker 7: Look, it's as bad as you can't count it twice.

894
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Speaker 7: But that's a bad one right there. For the film,

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Speaker 7: for everything, for Morale talked about moments and momentum. We

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Speaker 7: lost our moment and the momentum was snatched right out

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Speaker 7: of our mouth.

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Speaker 4: Okay, the.

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Speaker 8: Two of the three losses in a tie, we're all

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00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 8: bad moments, right. They had an opportunity and every one

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00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 8: of those to win, yep, and they didn't make the play.

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00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,839
Speaker 4: Okay, When the schedule came out. You got Washington at

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00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 4: home and then at Denver. What did you expect the

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Speaker 4: Cowboys to do in those two games? Two and oh

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Speaker 4: one and one or zero and two oh and these

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Speaker 4: two these next two games coming up one, So that

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Speaker 4: now what you have to do to make up for

908
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 4: Carolina yesterday you got to go to and you gotta

909
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 4: go to and oh yep, and that makes up for Carolina.

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Speaker 7: Right, that's a large ass.

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Speaker 8: When you expect the worst, you get their best. And

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Speaker 8: when you expect the best, you get their worst. And

913
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Speaker 8: that has five hundred sitting all over.

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Speaker 4: So I'm expecting the worst the next two weeks.

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Speaker 7: Shout out to Ricodollo. Shoutout to Rico Doll. I can't

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Speaker 7: say enough about the job he did yesterday. And by

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Speaker 7: the way, I mean he was here. I never seen

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Speaker 7: him perform like that. When he was here, I'm like,

919
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:16,960
Speaker 7: who is this guy?

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Speaker 4: Who is the guy?

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Speaker 5: I didn't have holes like that?

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Speaker 2: But he'd have thirty? Did he have a thirty carry game?

923
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Speaker 2: The whole time he was.

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Speaker 4: Carry?

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Speaker 2: Who is this guy?

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Speaker 8: But you know what, afterwards he was on national TV

927
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Speaker 8: and he was polite. He gave credit to his offensive line,

928
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Speaker 8: and he didn't. They were trying to get him to

929
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Speaker 8: talk about the buckle up.

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Speaker 4: And he never that's because he's a free agent.

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Speaker 5: He didn't mention it.

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Speaker 4: Right, he's a free agent after this year, and he's

933
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Speaker 4: getting a one year deal with.

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Speaker 2: He's getting he's getting close to hitting all his incentives.

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Speaker 7: Look at this guy's incentives, by the way, I looked

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Speaker 7: at a bunch of half a million dollar incentives that he's.

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Speaker 2: Going to reach.

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Speaker 5: He didn't have a lot of incentives.

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Speaker 4: Tell you to Okay, all right, we don't have time

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Speaker 4: to get into the contract. So all right, how about

941
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Speaker 4: we do it again tomorrow, and how about we do

942
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Speaker 4: it with a Pro Bowl cornerback in our midst to

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Speaker 4: get his take.

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Speaker 5: Are we going to give him his opportunity or passing over?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: No, he gets you the opportunity tomorrow. Ever, sna be

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Speaker 4: back tomorrow and we'll shout at you at noon on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Go Cowboys.

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