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Speaker 1: Some of our earliest interactions with Matt Money before we
Speaker 1: really did any work together, uh, was Dan and I
Speaker 1: sending out top five lists of like Counting Crows songs
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Speaker 1: Have it? I still have still had Money still has
Speaker 1: on his phone because I checked in a couple of
Speaker 1: months ago, because Money, it would take me one. Now
Speaker 1: that I've got ninety thousand, I haven't got the child
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Speaker 1: was the intro line. It was like for those keeping
Speaker 1: track top five live songs for sometime, it's like, I
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Speaker 1: those tweets where it's like it's like for those who
Speaker 1: have asked, here's my top fight, no one it was.
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Speaker 1: So I would bring him things and he would either say,
Speaker 1: you know, thumbs up or thumbs down, and that's how
Speaker 1: they would get on. But to uh live, when we
Speaker 1: first played I'll tell you a funny live story, we
Speaker 1: first played um gosh, help me out Lightning Crashes. Because
Speaker 1: you know, radio is for those of you that like
Speaker 1: the the innocence of music, the you know, the idea
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Speaker 1: We're like, we're not playing a freaking five and a
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Speaker 1: portion of it, and there was like the sect of
Speaker 1: live fans that were so offended and angry, and I
Speaker 1: was like, where who are these people? Like, It's not
Speaker 1: like it's this masterpiece that we're playing. So we don't
Speaker 1: want a six minute song. We want a three plus
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Speaker 1: there was also the moment when I turned on Live officially,
Speaker 1: and I guess I really never turned on him. I
Speaker 1: just liked them. Even less was when Ed said that
Speaker 1: his band was bigger than you two. We have a
Speaker 1: like We didn't say that filled with sub you know,
Speaker 1: twenty somethings and they have no idea what we've been
Speaker 1: talking out. Rock music was a genre. Um, all right,
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Speaker 1: Gonna get money in the garage eventually. All right, here
Speaker 1: we go. You are a man, I'm a man that
Speaker 1: knows so much about different sports and different leagues, and
Speaker 1: we are when it comes to this time of season.
Speaker 1: They around the NFL podcast were a little vulnerable because
Speaker 1: it's a blind spot college football. Now you covered very closely,
Speaker 1: and you were just in Indianapolis and helped anchor the
Speaker 1: coverage there for NFL Network. Um, so we wanted to
Speaker 1: have you on the show and just kind of get up,
Speaker 1: combine it up, getting your vibe and if you want,
Speaker 1: if you could sit in on the news with us,
Speaker 1: we'd love that too. Sure we'd love to just have
Speaker 1: get as much money as we can. So how about this.
Speaker 1: I always find it interesting, like what people that don't
Speaker 1: watch a lot of college football takeaway from the combine
Speaker 1: because you go in if you watch college with these
Speaker 1: preconceived notions, and if you know, when you have your
Speaker 1: recency or confirmation biases, and when your guy know that
Speaker 1: you like desgrade at combine, you like, see I told
Speaker 1: you when they do bad, you just it's like it
Speaker 1: works perfectly. You say, whatever, I don't care about the combine,
Speaker 1: look at the yeah, prote coming it's all. So it's
Speaker 1: it's always interesting for me to hear people start talking
Speaker 1: about people like McKay, Beckton or or Murray or I
Speaker 1: mean I Leaviscus Chanalt, like these people that you know
Speaker 1: you watch all season long and you're like, oh wow,
Speaker 1: this is this is like now making its way because
Speaker 1: obviously it's a much bigger production. It's it's a different
Speaker 1: lens and and you kind of have already formed your
Speaker 1: opinions about a lot of these guys over watching them
Speaker 1: because remember they got to play three years, so you
Speaker 1: see a lot of a lot of football from each
Speaker 1: of these prospects before they get to the combine. So
Speaker 1: what did you like was there? And then somebody did
Speaker 1: someone change your mind that like you had a feeling
Speaker 1: of before the combine having watched them, and you were
Speaker 1: kind of surprised with it. So like the interesting thing
Speaker 1: about Oklahoma is, you know, for for those that pay attention,
Speaker 1: sorry for for being I don't want to you know,
Speaker 1: kind of whatever college football splaining it to you. That's
Speaker 1: not what I'm trying to do. But then we need
Speaker 1: that we skate by through the college. All spreads aren't equal,
Speaker 1: right in college football. They're different. Um, the Oklahoma spread,
Speaker 1: and what Lincoln Lincoln Riley has been able to do
Speaker 1: is figure out a way to get guys so open
Speaker 1: you can't like you. It's just it's crazy that people
Speaker 1: haven't able to crack the riddle. You know, Oklahoma players
Speaker 1: are so open on so many plays against big big
Speaker 1: twelve is not a place for defense. But I think
Speaker 1: they've also gotten their bad reputation because of what Oklahoma
Speaker 1: has done to the big twelve and the points in
Speaker 1: the yards. So I kind of went in wondering, Okay,
Speaker 1: what what do we make a Ceedee Lamb? Like? Is
Speaker 1: he is he really that good? Are we really putting
Speaker 1: him in the same category as Jerry Judy, who you
Speaker 1: talk to people and when you watch him against sec defenses?
Speaker 1: Is this just magical route runner in this complete receiver
Speaker 1: And then you see Ceedee Lamb out there and you're like,
Speaker 1: holy crap, like yeah, and all of his production, Yes,
Speaker 1: he had Baker, Kyler, Jalen back to back to back,
Speaker 1: is his quarter backs, but he is as responsible for
Speaker 1: their success as they are for his, and he is
Speaker 1: a special player. Watching him out there and talking to
Speaker 1: him and hearing from people in the interview rooms. Um.
Speaker 1: I think that was probably one of the bigger takeaways
Speaker 1: I had that that he looks to maybe be a
Speaker 1: little bit ahead of Judy and really in that category
Speaker 1: that that rare wide receiver that you could draft in
Speaker 1: the top seven. No one would blink because going into it,
Speaker 1: there was some time maybe there isn't like a Calvin
Speaker 1: Johnson or Julio Jones in this class. But I feel
Speaker 1: like as the time goes on, maybe they're pushing closer
Speaker 1: to that. I think he's a you know, I think
Speaker 1: the comparison, you know, measurable production style is apt and
Speaker 1: it's DeAndre Hopkins, That's what he is. And and I
Speaker 1: talked to someone who works for a team that very
Speaker 1: well could draft him and our inside I'll just say
Speaker 1: the top fifteen, and they said, uh, I was in
Speaker 1: the interview room when Hopkins came in the one it
Speaker 1: was this is money there voices that are he said
Speaker 1: the thing about Hopkins and what had Hopkins slipped to
Speaker 1: like twenty he was late twenties, right, I think he was.
Speaker 1: So he said, I remember walking out of the room saying,
Speaker 1: there's something about that guy just feels like you don't
Speaker 1: see it from wide receivers, but then he just claw
Speaker 1: your eyes out to get an extra couple of yards.
Speaker 1: And he said, for that position, doesn't necessarily generate that
Speaker 1: type of behavior, a disposition, And they're like, CD is
Speaker 1: the first player I felt that had that. Um so
Speaker 1: you mix that with the talent and um, yeah, that
Speaker 1: was that was definitely one of the big winners to
Speaker 1: come out of there. Hopkins overall in two thousand thirteen.
Speaker 1: So everyone keeps saying this is the best wide receiver class,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I guess from a death perspective. Did you
Speaker 1: see that? And have you seen that during the I've
Speaker 1: seen it. Yeah, I've seen it for for a while now.
Speaker 1: It is a really good group of wide receivers, which
Speaker 1: makes it interesting, right if you're if you're like, just
Speaker 1: look at the Raiders. So you've got twelve and nineteen
Speaker 1: and everybody has circled that is a Jerry Judy or
Speaker 1: a or a Ceede Lamb spot. But look everything else
Speaker 1: they need. Do you have a favorite guy and maybe
Speaker 1: a second or third tier the wide receiver? Um gosh,
Speaker 1: I love Michael Pittman out of USC. That someone who's
Speaker 1: real physical and you see how well you know, you
Speaker 1: just kind of look at Juju and kind of what
Speaker 1: was said about him at the combine athletically from a
Speaker 1: number standpoint, and then you see what he's able to
Speaker 1: become in the NFL. This is Michael Pittman's son. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is uh, this is Michael Pittman. It is Michael Pittman,
Speaker 1: one of the most underrated fantasy football assets of the
Speaker 1: early OTTs. You're getting seventy catches and nine rushing yards
Speaker 1: forget about like I'm great exact Looper ball. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think probably the most Swoll Thomas reiver. Right, Swoll receiver ever. Right, No,
Speaker 1: David Boston, it was Unum Boston wasn't fair because I
Speaker 1: don't think it was natural. Boston was like ban by
Speaker 1: the end of his career. Yes, I've scattered this all
Speaker 1: over the place, like so like there are so many
Speaker 1: teams that need receivers because it's kind of like it's
Speaker 1: it's just where the league is going that you now
Speaker 1: need four or five and so many of the good
Speaker 1: teams need receivers to Like if you think the Eagles,
Speaker 1: the Patriots, sure the Raiders too, but like there aren't
Speaker 1: that many teams that you look around that feels like
Speaker 1: don't need receivers. Well, like look at last year, right,
Speaker 1: I mean just all you know your draft, all these
Speaker 1: guys McLaurin, these guys are all second rounders, you know,
Speaker 1: Samuel and I think that yeah, a j. Brown that
Speaker 1: will be similar this year. I mean DK Metcalf where
Speaker 1: you know, I mean Jeffers, you know Jefferson from l
Speaker 1: s U. Higgins from Clemson. I mean, I don't want
Speaker 1: to just kind of get into the name salad thing
Speaker 1: and just start rattling off a bunch of guys. But
Speaker 1: but yeah, I think it's so what I'm getting at
Speaker 1: with the inn. There you go, So and that's that's
Speaker 1: what's tough, right You just you never you never know,
Speaker 1: um how they're going to make that jump. But the
Speaker 1: thing is, you know, can you play press man? Can
Speaker 1: you you know? And that's what you don't see a
Speaker 1: lot of in college. So, um, I think that's something
Speaker 1: they get all sort off. But you know, going back
Speaker 1: to the Raiders real quick, so they need all this
Speaker 1: defensive help. There's like two really good corners and then
Speaker 1: there's a huge draw you know, there's a Kuda and
Speaker 1: there's Henderson and then after that. So it's like if
Speaker 1: you're a twelve and you you have this sort of
Speaker 1: freak in ceedee lamb, but you need this corner and
Speaker 1: you have maybe C. J. Henderson, They're like, what do
Speaker 1: you do? What's the right what's the right thing to
Speaker 1: do there? Um. I also haven't ruled out them for
Speaker 1: like trading up for a quarterback with those picks if
Speaker 1: they don't get a veteran. I've heard, uh, I've heard
Speaker 1: that that that's a very real possibility that they like
Speaker 1: Jordan Love quite a bit. Um, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you'd be there. I think you might be there. I
Speaker 1: feel like every quarterback at this point, and it's it's
Speaker 1: it's a bit of a trope that they're just gonna
Speaker 1: flush up the board and be gone much higher. I mean,
Speaker 1: looking at the quarterbacks, is there one out there that's
Speaker 1: starting to get a lot of buzz? But in your mind,
Speaker 1: which one could use a like a red shirt year
Speaker 1: in the NFL and not be thrown into the fire,
Speaker 1: you know come September. Um, I mean I think Burrow
Speaker 1: would be fine, you know, just that's that's the guy
Speaker 1: that I'd be the least read about too. I think
Speaker 1: it'd be fine if he was healthy. But I'm guessing
Speaker 1: he's probably gonna get a red shirt, um, you know
Speaker 1: with that hip and and um, you know, like it's interesting, right.
Speaker 1: So the whole Jordan Love thing is is kind of
Speaker 1: it's kind of weird to me because we saw that
Speaker 1: Josh Allen was pretty darn successful right away, and it
Speaker 1: feels like Jordan Loves way ahead of that. Um. And
Speaker 1: when you kind of start going through look at Carson
Speaker 1: Wentz and oh, well, you know, Jordan Love plays for
Speaker 1: Utah State, you know what, who cares? It's like, well,
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz played for North Dakota State, you know, and
Speaker 1: like it's not like the Pac twelve is throwing out
Speaker 1: these super monstrous defenses nor the Big twelve that Jared
Speaker 1: Goff and Kyler Murray are having to deal with when
Speaker 1: you talk about taking a step to the NFL. So
Speaker 1: that's something I've never really understood, is taking a shot
Speaker 1: at a guy for the level of competition in college. UM.
Speaker 1: I know you want to see them put up just
Speaker 1: boffo numbers year after year to feel better, But I
Speaker 1: do think there is something to be said about just
Speaker 1: being comfortable with the way someone plays the position. Um And,
Speaker 1: So I think that's where, you know, maybe the numbers
Speaker 1: of Justin Herbert versus the eye test of Jordan's Love
Speaker 1: is really going to come into play. And I think
Speaker 1: that's like, to me, Herbert's a weird one. Um and
Speaker 1: I watched a lot of I watch a lot of
Speaker 1: Pact both football. UM. I just I don't know. I
Speaker 1: guess that, like you just ever feel a spark about
Speaker 1: something like that's kind of what you want to think
Speaker 1: from a quarterback, and even in his best games, you
Speaker 1: just don't feel it's part of the package, isn't it.
Speaker 1: The first time you heard live, it just was like
Speaker 1: that's gonna be The interesting one is is if you
Speaker 1: know where Herbert goes, because I've heard that teams like
Speaker 1: him more than then to a like that, you know,
Speaker 1: which is crazy to me like that, I can't understand that,
Speaker 1: you know. And the thing about too, I think is
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm talking way too much on this
Speaker 1: spot just to jump in. I feel like if to
Speaker 1: checks out medically right in the second in the re check,
Speaker 1: then he's going He's going at two or three like
Speaker 1: someone you know. If he doesn't, then every actually so
Speaker 1: like then what happens then I don't know what the
Speaker 1: landing spot is formed. So it just feels like two.
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna get, you know, good marks on
Speaker 1: the recheck from what it sounded like coming out of
Speaker 1: Indie from the trauma doctors. That's crazy that you have
Speaker 1: to say that, right, you know, it's not a not
Speaker 1: a medical physician, it's a trauma doctor that has to
Speaker 1: give you the diagnosis. And they gave you the thumbs
Speaker 1: up truma right like that's that's it was a trauma intriotball, right,
Speaker 1: So that's the weird thing about to um is football
Speaker 1: is trauma turns out. I mean, I don't know, like
Speaker 1: throw us out there, it would be it would be traumatic.
Speaker 1: Like if you were if you were the Bengals, who
Speaker 1: would you want to be your quarterback? Moving forward? Well,
Speaker 1: that leads Burrow is the guy everybody's connecting to Cincinnati
Speaker 1: and Joe Burrow Chase Young who a lot of people
Speaker 1: think goes number two potentially to the Redskins, but we'll
Speaker 1: see when we talk about these quarterbacks. But Burrow and
Speaker 1: Young are both they're getting some hype as generational type talents.
Speaker 1: Do you see that for both of those guys? I
Speaker 1: mean for Burrow, I thought our colleague and I know
Speaker 1: you don't like to hear his name, but Daniel Jeremy
Speaker 1: I put it best, and that is you know that
Speaker 1: sometimes he's like a February to May kind of Is
Speaker 1: that right? He's seasonal? Is faking it? Have you? Like?
Speaker 1: What does are you aware of? Like? Well, that's one
Speaker 1: of the reasons why I am so well versed in
Speaker 1: all of this, because I get to cheat off his task?
Speaker 1: Is he and I sit next to each other on
Speaker 1: the charters and he just watches films, watch one of
Speaker 1: my did the Chargers broadcasts with him? Yes? Yes, DJ
Speaker 1: is the color analyst. I am the play by play
Speaker 1: man for the Chargers. So we're on these charters and sometimes,
Speaker 1: you know, for because you're a West Coast team, you're
Speaker 1: on the plane a lot. You know, our flights are long,
Speaker 1: so we're watching six hours of Alabama film or just
Speaker 1: offensive line. It's uh, it's fun like war with you
Speaker 1: exactly right now, I will say, but DJ, DJ is
Speaker 1: drinking ginger ale. I am not. Let's just leave it
Speaker 1: that is. And sometimes I have been tempted to switch
Speaker 1: the glasses just to see what would happen if just
Speaker 1: a drip would hit. But if you like, if you
Speaker 1: like pull back like that football and that, that's all great.
Speaker 1: It's interesting, like is there anything else there to DJ?
Speaker 1: You're just gonna pull it back, And it's like the
Speaker 1: question that had to be asked. Yeah, I mean, just
Speaker 1: you know, a good, good, honest, god fearing man that
Speaker 1: loves his family. Uh and uh yeah, that's that's d J.
Speaker 1: That's DJ. You know, we invite him out a lot,
Speaker 1: and and and because the football season, he's still I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what's crazy because old this kid is older than West.
Speaker 1: That's what's uh, that's what's weird about. That's what's tough
Speaker 1: about the job. Like, if you do it right, and
Speaker 1: I think, you know all nothing, I kind of did.
Speaker 1: I almost did it. I'm not gonna say. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna say all kiding aside, it's so stupid. But if
Speaker 1: you do it right, because I do believe there are
Speaker 1: people in high profile positions they don't do it right
Speaker 1: and they just start spouting off and you'll catch them
Speaker 1: and realize that they never watched that guy. Um DJ
Speaker 1: does it right and he commits ridiculous hours to it.
Speaker 1: Like look, I'll watch I'll watch two games of Jeddrick Wills.
Speaker 1: But then I'm up. I'm up and I'm walking around
Speaker 1: and I'm seeing if there's a card game because I'm
Speaker 1: on a booze and I might need to get a
Speaker 1: beer from someone. I was like, hey, man, I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this anymore. But he's Dedicay you know
Speaker 1: how to get this down to the three and a
Speaker 1: half minute version of the single for this show? Right,
Speaker 1: just told us he's a much more well rounded person
Speaker 1: than Wow. That's stories of what goes on in the charter.
Speaker 1: I like to live, I like to experience Philip Forever
Speaker 1: is taking people's money in card games. No, and we
Speaker 1: are we are separated. So the charter is is coaches, uh,
Speaker 1: coaches and staff, medical is upstairs. Um players are in
Speaker 1: the middle, and then media and just kind of slappy's
Speaker 1: were in the back. So yeah, I'm not refer to
Speaker 1: yourself as a slappy. I think you know that you're
Speaker 1: not a slappy. You have like twelve jobs, you have
Speaker 1: multiple streams of income. I'm just getting towards the bank account,
Speaker 1: you know, slappy in the frame of reference that is
Speaker 1: charge your ranks. You know, I've probably fit into that.
Speaker 1: Back to the generational thing, do you see either of
Speaker 1: those guys Joe Burrow or Chase Young is next level?
Speaker 1: All pros that type of So, like, this is what's
Speaker 1: funny coming out right is is most combines. When you
Speaker 1: leave if if you have you know, conversations with scouts,
Speaker 1: they'll usually give you a name or two. Like last year,
Speaker 1: I remember coming out there like I don't know man, Nick,
Speaker 1: there's Nick Boson, and I really don't know anything. Else,
Speaker 1: like I know Nick bos is gonna be good, is
Speaker 1: what we heard from almost all of them. And you
Speaker 1: don't get another name, and like that's pretty par for
Speaker 1: the course. They might give you one or two names.
Speaker 1: They might say I really like that. I think this
Speaker 1: is the quarterback that has out of this combine. I've
Speaker 1: never seen scouts with with permegran like they have. They're like,
Speaker 1: you got three tackles that I feel really good about
Speaker 1: in Beckton, Wills and Worth's. You've got two receivers and
Speaker 1: Judy and Land that I think are gonna be franchise
Speaker 1: level wide receivers. You've got Joe Burrow to a everybody
Speaker 1: seems to agree that those two are special, special quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: And then you've got a corner in a Kuda like
Speaker 1: I've never heard guys talk about. You know, I didn't
Speaker 1: even say Chase Young or Brown, like I've never heard
Speaker 1: so many names of Like they never say sure thing,
Speaker 1: but that you feel like I'm getting a really really
Speaker 1: good player. If I'm picking in the top twelve or thirty.
Speaker 1: Kuda was in the in the Eric Fisher draft, he
Speaker 1: might be going one, right, but this is more like that,
Speaker 1: uh what draft? Maybe you know where is pretty good
Speaker 1: one to By the way, the Fisher draft is the
Speaker 1: worst draft ever. Like that's what's crazy when you go
Speaker 1: through it. It's like the actually, Eric Fisher wasn't the
Speaker 1: worst pick. He really wasn't. He was like an okay
Speaker 1: starting tackle. And if you there was a lot of
Speaker 1: other ways to miss a lot bigger than was the Eric.
Speaker 1: That was one was like topics and that was like, oh,
Speaker 1: huge news from the draft stage. It's not gonna be
Speaker 1: Luke jokel. It will be Eric Fisher, Jake Matthews and
Speaker 1: like it was. But that's what's crazy, Like think about
Speaker 1: your butts, think about doing a redraft and putting a
Speaker 1: wide receiver at number one, Like that's how bad that
Speaker 1: draft was. This this and about Bill ourselves coming out
Speaker 1: of retirement to draft Jake Long over Matt Ryan. People
Speaker 1: forget about that, um, But this is a really deep,
Speaker 1: fun draft class and insane free agency year with all
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks and everything. So it's good. It's a good
Speaker 1: time for to be an NFL. Too many quarterbacks, there's
Speaker 1: just simply too many. And see that's that's what I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out, Like I don't know, is there
Speaker 1: gonna is there gonna be a Philip Rivers or or
Speaker 1: a Derek Carr or a famous Martos Mariota Jamis, that's
Speaker 1: just left holding it, Especially if someone like if someone
Speaker 1: like the Bucks actually like went in on Teddy Bridgewater,
Speaker 1: which there's a little bit of talk that could be possible,
Speaker 1: then it does feel like there's just not enough spots, right,
Speaker 1: someone like Jamis or Derek Carr or someone that you
Speaker 1: just wouldn't think could get left out in the cold.
Speaker 1: Will Well, Now that Philip Rivers is no longer connected
Speaker 1: to the charges, He's not gonna be on the charter plane.
Speaker 1: You're not going to be called his games maybe one
Speaker 1: or so, but we'll say, um, is he shot? Can
Speaker 1: he play anymore? No? I think he can still play. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I think you put him behind a good offensive line
Speaker 1: and he is still as masterful at diagnosed in defense
Speaker 1: and recognizing a weak spot. Do you think he would do?
Speaker 1: That's to me, that's just the perfect marriage. You put
Speaker 1: him on that team with that old line, with with
Speaker 1: a solid running game, a scheme that he's familiar with,
Speaker 1: a coach that he's familiar with, and I would expect
Speaker 1: him to thrive. Um, I would certainly say it's an
Speaker 1: upgrade over Jacobe prict that's for certain. I have a
Speaker 1: question just for my own edification here. There is a
Speaker 1: trend in the NFL over the last half decade where
Speaker 1: edge rushers have really exploded and proliferated around the league.
Speaker 1: An offensive linemen are almost extinct coming out of college,
Speaker 1: and this year we're seeing sort of a reverse of
Speaker 1: that trend, where the offensive tackle class seems talented, freakishly
Speaker 1: athletic and deep, and the edge rusher lass seems really
Speaker 1: thing compared to previous years. Do you see this if
Speaker 1: you can look at college football and say, is there
Speaker 1: a chance this becomes a thing where it happens more
Speaker 1: than one year or is this the outlier? It's uh, gosh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do this too. It's a great question because
Speaker 1: it's a question that I ask repeatedly to college coaches.
Speaker 1: I ask why is defensive line so far ahead of
Speaker 1: offensive line? What is going on? The guys come in
Speaker 1: at the same age, They come in knowing what their
Speaker 1: position is gonna be, So why do we get so
Speaker 1: much more, you know, so much more pressure on quarterbacks
Speaker 1: in the NFL than we do protection And there's really
Speaker 1: never been a good answer. Um. The one thing I'll
Speaker 1: tell you about offensive line in college is it's the only, uh,
Speaker 1: it's the only coach position coach that the head coach
Speaker 1: can f with. If you have a good offensive line coach,
Speaker 1: they are on an island. Don't you dare say a
Speaker 1: bad word to them, because we can't afford to lose them.
Speaker 1: So that kind of gives you an idea of how
Speaker 1: hard it is to find a really good offensive line
Speaker 1: coach in college and the kind of impact it can have. UM,
Speaker 1: don't know if it just takes longer. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: one of my theories and this came up when um,
Speaker 1: when Jason Smith was drafted out of out of Baylor,
Speaker 1: and I said this in the moment, I said, what,
Speaker 1: how does it make any sense to draft an old
Speaker 1: lineman out of Baylor when the quarterback doesn't have the
Speaker 1: ball but for maybe three quarters of a second to
Speaker 1: a second and he was second And I said that,
Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of what happened a little
Speaker 1: bit in college is you've got so many of these
Speaker 1: spread offenses where lineman they're not run blocking, they don't
Speaker 1: have to pass block for more than but you know,
Speaker 1: it's like Dan Marino's back there. You know, the snaps
Speaker 1: there and then the ball is out, so you don't
Speaker 1: really know, you don't really have to. I said, I'd
Speaker 1: be drafting my guys from Navy and from Georgia Tech
Speaker 1: and guys that ran the option. Give me some nasty
Speaker 1: offensive lineman that actually have to engage and be physically overpowering.
Speaker 1: But I think we're starting to get some of that back,
Speaker 1: right is there was that huge zig and now you know,
Speaker 1: like Stanford came with their power running game, and Notre
Speaker 1: Dame got going with a bit of a power running
Speaker 1: game at Oh what do you know, Mike McGlinchey, and
Speaker 1: you know, and all these went Nelson, all these old
Speaker 1: linemen are coming out of Notre Dames and the Ravens
Speaker 1: and they're pretty darn good, you know. So I think
Speaker 1: that's I think we're starting to see a bit of
Speaker 1: a zag back in college where there are more process
Speaker 1: and there are there is more attention paid to a
Speaker 1: running game. Um. And I think that's why you saw
Speaker 1: so many offensive linemen drafted out of Iowa, Wisconsin, because
Speaker 1: they've never you know, they've never strayed from that. They've
Speaker 1: always kind of done. That's what Iowa and Wisconsin football do.
Speaker 1: I've been doing some homework on the edge rushing class,
Speaker 1: digging into some tape of this the Old Man out
Speaker 1: of Penn State tour, Gross Meadows. Why would someone name
Speaker 1: a child that? Yeah, first round prospect name. I told
Speaker 1: his name rhymes with detour, so I guess the tour
Speaker 1: and then someone's like, no, it doesn't. I was like,
Speaker 1: whatever rose mottos. Uh, yeah, I can't answer that. I
Speaker 1: don't know why he would be named, but I would
Speaker 1: assume based on the three names together, maybe international player sort.
Speaker 1: I want to ask that question, sending strong, just asking
Speaker 1: why that would be the like the group of words
Speaker 1: you'd come up with. Yes, it's uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: think I wonder if moving forward, if he's going to
Speaker 1: be known as hy g M. You know, it's moving
Speaker 1: forward before we get to some news, what is to
Speaker 1: his last name? So this is pretty easy. Uh, it's
Speaker 1: it's the people don't know there's ends where there are
Speaker 1: no ends, So it's tongue vola. It's not like I
Speaker 1: haven't heard you say it. Greg on our show had
Speaker 1: actually asking me month we've done this same bit. It
Speaker 1: starts with toughs. So here we go. Here's here's I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give you guys a little peek into the future.
Speaker 1: So the name you're gonna have to learn how to
Speaker 1: pronounce because he's the best high school football player I've
Speaker 1: ever seen in my life. And he played in Southern California.
Speaker 1: He was the quarterback for St. John Bob's that just
Speaker 1: won the national championship. Well, it's every time modern Day
Speaker 1: wins everything. Don't you dare disparage the money. Alright, modern
Speaker 1: Day they've been really good the last couple of years.
Speaker 1: So atter Day and Bosco of traded titles. But it's
Speaker 1: inexplicable that both of these quarterbacks are leaving the state
Speaker 1: of California. It's the state of affairs of U C
Speaker 1: l A and USC football. Um So Djuy is the name, Dju.
Speaker 1: It's gotta be dj Ouy. A lot of people call Himui,
Speaker 1: but it's moi la. He will replace Trevor Lawrence at Clemson.
Speaker 1: He'll be a freshman this year and he will replace
Speaker 1: Lawrence the following year. And he is ridiculous. J hes
Speaker 1: mr Southern California. He's bringing us high school. Just hey,
Speaker 1: all the folks that are listening to what they like
Speaker 1: college football, they'll know the name. Certainly when Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: has taken like listening to you and Petro's before I
Speaker 1: haven't met you. I would drive around l A listening
Speaker 1: to that show, and you guys would dig into high
Speaker 1: school football agree where I had no idea what you
Speaker 1: were talking about, but it was entertaining. It was thank you,
Speaker 1: full of love high school football because it's you know,
Speaker 1: it's the cradle of it here in southern California. Bryce Young,
Speaker 1: by the way, was the modern day quarterback. This year,
Speaker 1: is he going to USC or you see like, no,
Speaker 1: he'll be going to all It's funny you say you
Speaker 1: love high school football. But when I was on those
Speaker 1: cold wet benches in Rockland and Westchester County over New
Speaker 1: York and the early odds, I never saw money. No,
Speaker 1: you didn't know this, as a matter of factorting because
Speaker 1: I was here in southern California. Then Nanuet, Black Nights,
Speaker 1: Golden Knights are up against the pro rab pirates. Zeuser
Speaker 1: was there. That's right, Zeus gonna Bruce Miller. Is that
Speaker 1: what they called short yardage back? Get the Zeus, sir,
Speaker 1: third one pull back all right, let's listen this. When
Speaker 1: push comes to shove over the next ten days, fifteen days,
Speaker 1: whether the Patriots will be able to exert upon him
Speaker 1: and convince him that, Look, this is the best place
Speaker 1: for you. It always has been, it always will be.
Speaker 1: We want you here. You know, we had Tom Curran
Speaker 1: of NBC Boston on our show just Monday. Well, I
Speaker 1: thought we had a nice interview with them. He shared
Speaker 1: some good nugs, He gave us some clarity on the
Speaker 1: Tom Brady the situation. But I didn't see a Roto
Speaker 1: World blurb come out of our show, which is disappointing.
Speaker 1: Let's just be honest, aggregators didn't pick up on your interview.
Speaker 1: We didn't get any Well tell you wouldn't you say that?
Speaker 1: That's on us that we all? I all I thought
Speaker 1: when I saw this news that he made yesterday, was gosh.
Speaker 1: I wish we asked about exactly. NBC Sports, NBC Sports Bostons.
Speaker 1: Tom current told our old friend Chris mad Dog Russo
Speaker 1: on his radio show that the chatter chatter connecting Tom
Speaker 1: Brady to the forty niners is quote real. Now again,
Speaker 1: I heard that in Indie, by the way, before Dion
Speaker 1: went on the air and said it I had heard that,
Speaker 1: uh which and I dismissed it. I said, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And then I would assume Dion heard it as well,
Speaker 1: and because he's a master at disseminating information plated as
Speaker 1: you know, I got an idea. This is crazy. But
Speaker 1: you know, hear me out here, you know, but that
Speaker 1: that was as early as like Friday, Thursday, Friday, that
Speaker 1: was kicking around. I mean, if you're Jimmy Garoppolo, the
Speaker 1: details of it are pretty fascinating that Tom that current
Speaker 1: said it was from both sides that of course Tom
Speaker 1: Brady wants to play for the forty Niners. He's looking
Speaker 1: around the league at possible teams to play for that
Speaker 1: I can't come up with a better pick. Not just
Speaker 1: because he fite team. I mean that that's the starting point.
Speaker 1: That the next would be how how good they are
Speaker 1: and how much they can contact on everything. Great, but
Speaker 1: the fact that the forty Niners have some mutual interest.
Speaker 1: According to this report, and put yourself in Garoppolo's shoes,
Speaker 1: you have really you get traded um from Tom Brady's
Speaker 1: team across the country. You have this great ending to
Speaker 1: the season with the Niners. Then Tom Brady in two
Speaker 1: thousand nine team you blow out your knee very freshen
Speaker 1: you come back, you improve as a player. Maybe you're
Speaker 1: not all the way there where you're a superstar. Maybe
Speaker 1: you'll never be that guy, but you have a better
Speaker 1: season than Tom Brady. Your team goes to the super
Speaker 1: Bowl and has a double digit lead in the fourth
Speaker 1: quarter of the Super Bowl, and now you're hearing that
Speaker 1: the guy that you had to go three thousand miles
Speaker 1: across the country to get out from under might come
Speaker 1: back to you. That's a tough situation. Stinks, But I
Speaker 1: would say that you look back that when the Jimmy
Speaker 1: g trade happened, there were whispers that the forty Niners
Speaker 1: had inquired about Tom Brady, not even I mean, that
Speaker 1: was out there. And secondly, if you're Tom Brady and
Speaker 1: you you're gonna leave Josh McDaniels in this embedded Patriots
Speaker 1: environment for Team X, and you have no idea what
Speaker 1: really has happening with the one team I could trust
Speaker 1: if I'm Tom Brady is going and teaming with Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan and seeing how that two year process would play out.
Speaker 1: It's the first one where I've thought this is the
Speaker 1: first Brady rumor where it makes sense on his side.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it makes sense for the forty niners,
Speaker 1: but it does make sense for Tom Brady. Well, there
Speaker 1: there is a thought that Jimmy G and Kyle Shanahan,
Speaker 1: you know, aren't a perfect match where he's not, you know,
Speaker 1: doing what Kyle wants reading. You know, there there's answers
Speaker 1: on every play, and that maybe Jimmy G doesn't always
Speaker 1: have the answers. And look, if you're trying to like
Speaker 1: compare the ability to win before the snap or the
Speaker 1: mental ability of a quarterback, comparing someone to Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna end up looking great. But I think
Speaker 1: that's someone where Kyle Shanahan would look, that's the advantage
Speaker 1: that Tom Brady would give to them, that he would
Speaker 1: think he would know all the answers. And And as
Speaker 1: crazy as it is, I mean, I'm not putting this
Speaker 1: as like it's the answer, but PFF, for instance, had
Speaker 1: Tom Brady as a much higher rated quarterback last year.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's that crazy. I think Tom Brady
Speaker 1: similar or better less Brady's entire two thousand nineteen season
Speaker 1: under the same microscope that Jimmy G's fourth quarter was
Speaker 1: has been under and you're gonna see a guy who
Speaker 1: failed over and over again with the New England Patriot.
Speaker 1: It feels tremendously shortsighted if the Niners went this route.
Speaker 1: I mean, Brady is gonna be what forty three in August.
Speaker 1: He's showing signs of slippage. Garoppolo is a guy that's
Speaker 1: still in his twenties. What is Kyle ship doesn't make
Speaker 1: that doesn't make sense, right? What are you doing? I
Speaker 1: think if you have to think long term, no, no
Speaker 1: you don't, because if you're Kyle Shanahan, you're up three
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, you lose. And now what are
Speaker 1: the Falcons? They've never been back. They're not the same
Speaker 1: your window. That's the thing that's you know, and I
Speaker 1: experienced it, you know, from two years ago with the
Speaker 1: Chargers at twelve and four beating the Ravens, going to
Speaker 1: New England, it's tied at seven. You feel like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is great. Then Brady gets the best of you.
Speaker 1: You come back the following year and people are picking
Speaker 1: and win the Super Bowl to win the division. You've
Speaker 1: already beat Patrick Mahomes once maybe you've figured it out
Speaker 1: with Derwin James and it falls apart. You can't like,
Speaker 1: there is no long window in the NFL again so fast,
Speaker 1: but the so just go get it, go win the
Speaker 1: one championship and worry about one year scenario. To just
Speaker 1: indicate that they don't that Jimmy Garoppolo is someone that
Speaker 1: they're ambivalent about long term, because I think there is
Speaker 1: a there are a number of quarterbacks there, there are
Speaker 1: situations where, of course they would not want to jump
Speaker 1: off a guy in his twenty but if they considered
Speaker 1: to move like this because they don't feel great about
Speaker 1: Jimmy d But I'll tell you, I'll tell you who
Speaker 1: is excited about this news me. I mean, if there's
Speaker 1: a perfect situation for Patriots fans, this is it. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is this is the result, This is this is
Speaker 1: what I, as a selfish fan, would have wanted. I've said,
Speaker 1: you know on this podcast, I don't want to see
Speaker 1: Tom Brady played poorly in any uniform, but I'd rather
Speaker 1: him play poorly in another uniform than the Patriots. And
Speaker 1: this this is just sort of I'm just saying, but
Speaker 1: I would think we talk about Patriots fans all the time.
Speaker 1: It's all you ever bring up. I wish I could
Speaker 1: jump off of it, but this would bring me back in.
Speaker 1: I mean, get I think it comes down to this.
Speaker 1: The Skyle Shanahan think that Jimmy Garoppolo holds them back
Speaker 1: right now, and if he does, then should makes sense
Speaker 1: to look into it. I guess so if you're interested,
Speaker 1: speak But they absolutely believe it is Guy A better
Speaker 1: than Guy B. Do I think my team has a
Speaker 1: better chance to win a Super Bowl with Tom Brady
Speaker 1: or Jimmy Garoppolo next year? Because if I believe it's
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, guess who's coming to play quarterback? It's Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: This is too good. I mean, that's some pinky stuff
Speaker 1: right there. Jimmy g winds up back with the Patriots
Speaker 1: as their starter. I mean, you can't just sell that
Speaker 1: down the river as an organic happening. That feels to
Speaker 1: me like a prepackaged, pre planned plot hatched years ago.
Speaker 1: But by the way, they don't have to trade Jimmy
Speaker 1: G to there's no there would be. There was no
Speaker 1: reporting on on that one. I've just connected quarterback teams
Speaker 1: that would probably trade for him that he has played
Speaker 1: well enough alright, moving on, but that is juicy, and yes,
Speaker 1: you know it was just talking about it in a
Speaker 1: Monday Show. There was a list of thirteen or fourteen
Speaker 1: established NFL quarterbacks that are in some state of limbo
Speaker 1: right now in the league. I didn't have Jimmy g
Speaker 1: on the list. We gotta put jim He's got to
Speaker 1: be on the list, now, put them on. That's fourteen.
Speaker 1: Those dominoes fall that way. And you know what the
Speaker 1: list I I brought up on Monday Show. I didn't
Speaker 1: put Josh Rosen on. We should put them on. There's
Speaker 1: a first round pick established quarterbacking about the established Achille
Speaker 1: Smith was the first round pick two, and we're not
Speaker 1: putting it. I'll keep him off. It's fourteen. Jim Drunken Miller,
Speaker 1: speaking of moving on, I need to move on. Oh
Speaker 1: you gotta go? Do you need to go? Move on?
Speaker 1: I bet you could come back. We'll be round. You
Speaker 1: finished the news with money. I'm coming back for the
Speaker 1: you're doing NFL now with today. I'm not sure either
Speaker 1: Andrew Siciliana or Patrick Claybon. I thought I thought we
Speaker 1: had an exclusive NFL that relationship. I don't know it
Speaker 1: was an open connection. Of relationship. I don't like that
Speaker 1: you're the only one we have. That little sizzle real's
Speaker 1: of our laugh right, that sizzle real every site I
Speaker 1: try to tell them to go away, and it's all
Speaker 1: old stuff, you know, I just do it toruce it up.
Speaker 1: I've said that same thing. Are you ten fifty? You
Speaker 1: have a hit? Yes, your motor on over there, buttle
Speaker 1: over there. Look at those buns. Good hr on the phone.
Speaker 1: If you said buns, it would have been fine when
Speaker 1: you said little buns. We've got a problem. We gotta
Speaker 1: all right. The Jaguars of a read to trade cornerback
Speaker 1: A J. Boullier to the Denver Broncos. How about this
Speaker 1: Jacksonville rules will receive a round selection uh in return,
Speaker 1: It's a cap space clearing move. Tom Pallisero reported and
Speaker 1: Boollier arrived as a big free agent signing two thousand seventeen,
Speaker 1: pairded with Jalen Ramsey Mark and it was like, ah,
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is set at cornerback for years. Well, guess what.
Speaker 1: They're basically hitting the recept But we talked about how
Speaker 1: there's some big cornerbacks, A couple of big cornerbacks on
Speaker 1: the board in April. Well, Jacksonville makes sense as a
Speaker 1: team that might have to go after a cornerback because
Speaker 1: they've cleared out the cupboard. Yeah, but we're Denver is
Speaker 1: looking to, you know, progress after what will be the
Speaker 1: loss of Chris Harris. You look at the people that
Speaker 1: have departed. We mentioned this on our last episode, the
Speaker 1: people that have departed Jacksonville's defense over the last couple
Speaker 1: of years, and they were one of the worst defenses
Speaker 1: down the stretch last season. It's hard to look at
Speaker 1: that roster right now and say bounce back campaign, not
Speaker 1: at all, and it's you win so many When you
Speaker 1: see Jalen Ramsey tweeting two that he was happy for
Speaker 1: bull to get out of there, that I do just
Speaker 1: dogs d A w G s something with Doug, the
Speaker 1: Doug Marone experience, and there could be other people attached
Speaker 1: to that is rubbing people the wrong way in Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: When you're seeing players celebrating other players escaping that environment,
Speaker 1: that's notable. Well, it feels like Tom Coughlin tore the
Speaker 1: whole thing down and he was scapegoated, I guess. But
Speaker 1: can we talk about the Leonard four Nette give the
Speaker 1: Will Smith standing in an empty room when it's already
Speaker 1: been tweeted out by other athletes in the exact same scenario.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be like lauded as some hilarious gift,
Speaker 1: like it's already been done. But this is like Twitter
Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty. Everything We've already had, every debate,
Speaker 1: every argument, everything's already been funny three times. It's not
Speaker 1: funny the fourth time. The I think this speaks to
Speaker 1: what I was just talking about. Think about where the
Speaker 1: Jaguars were two years ago, right, you know? Or was
Speaker 1: it three years ago? When it was when they played
Speaker 1: the Patriots In the end, you've got one quarter to
Speaker 1: go and you're in the Super Bowl and Blake Portles
Speaker 1: is your future, and you've got this nasty defensive line
Speaker 1: and this hammer head of a running back and it's
Speaker 1: and now it's it's over. It's completely gone. Yeah, it's it. Look,
Speaker 1: it's hey to to pick up on your theme there. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know what Jacksonville said to the falcons, hold my beer.
Speaker 1: I mean that that's that's you know, it's whatever I
Speaker 1: feel like. Hold my beard dropped off and that was
Speaker 1: great that it went away. It needed to be eradicated.
Speaker 1: We need by the way, mark, it's been a while
Speaker 1: since you've eradicated terms from Twitter. Maybe a fresh list
Speaker 1: in the next I got a couple, got a couple
Speaker 1: of you know what, do all say this, and we'll
Speaker 1: say this in defense of the the overused meme, I
Speaker 1: still love that dude sitting at the table sipping coffee
Speaker 1: with fire all around him. And then this is like,
Speaker 1: I really do, I still do. I still love that
Speaker 1: connects I really do, over and over and over and
Speaker 1: you find yourself doing that for three straight minutes, still smiling.
Speaker 1: This is fine. By the way, boy carry boy carry
Speaker 1: number of fifteen nice cover from me there fifteen point
Speaker 1: four million. That's that's a lot. So Jackson Village was
Speaker 1: not flushed with cap space now gets a little bit
Speaker 1: of wind. Would assume it means the Broncos aren't going
Speaker 1: to sign you know that whatever Chris Harris's people were
Speaker 1: telling him, we ain't paying you that he's got plenty
Speaker 1: of interest on the market. You know what I'm bringing
Speaker 1: back though, what's that speaking of over use things? Good luck?
Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna let you have that one days.
Speaker 1: I don't doubt you anymore. Afty successfully brought back the
Speaker 1: Dean screen I did. I brought back it's huge and
Speaker 1: after New Hampshire did you it was? You know it
Speaker 1: was huge? One and oh four was when did that happen?
Speaker 1: When of these I brought it back in about sixteen
Speaker 1: sixteen and people it was a lot of buzz and
Speaker 1: then I got off it. But it could make another comeback.
Speaker 1: It's like we're talking about lebron and and Jordan's and
Speaker 1: these people have multiple peaks. I don't know how we're
Speaker 1: engaging a lot of buzz or successful here, but I
Speaker 1: will go with you on this um Mark guess what
Speaker 1: everything's cool? Th Odell Beckham. Ian Rappaport reports that Cleveland
Speaker 1: has no plans to trade their wide receiver, their temperamental
Speaker 1: wide receiver and guess what how when they unveil their
Speaker 1: new uniforms and a month or so or whatever, he
Speaker 1: is planning to be part of the fashion show. I
Speaker 1: can see that. I would say that's like with anything
Speaker 1: current plans. That's the thing he's most excited about this Cleveland.
Speaker 1: All the new uniforms, um those old ones needed to go.
Speaker 1: And so that's a nice offseason move. That's how you win,
Speaker 1: that really win the off season. Forget last year that
Speaker 1: was a fraud. But um Odell Beckham to me, I
Speaker 1: mean unless someone came to Cleveland, because they sound very
Speaker 1: willing to guys like Olivia Vernon probably won't be back.
Speaker 1: Joe Schobert, who I would have resigned at the right price,
Speaker 1: there's no interest there. So with Odell Beckham, it's it's
Speaker 1: hard to believe that if someone had a fascination for
Speaker 1: him and came with a you know, a king's ransom,
Speaker 1: the Browns would certainly listen and could be swayed. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know how much longer you have Beckham on
Speaker 1: the map there hell would offer a king's rest. I
Speaker 1: think it's a terrible offseason for a lot of these guys.
Speaker 1: And it's not what you're saying with the draft test
Speaker 1: position that his stock is pretty low. I think right now,
Speaker 1: in fact, I think he's a candidate if things get
Speaker 1: back on track there where he could have a huge
Speaker 1: bounce back year. But this kind of if we this
Speaker 1: might be a good seg down the road kind of
Speaker 1: make or break years or guys, very important years for guys.
Speaker 1: This is a big year for Beckham. It is who
Speaker 1: played with a torn muscle through the entire year left.
Speaker 1: That's part He's hurt almost every year, Beckham. That's part
Speaker 1: of the thing that does not get brought up as much.
Speaker 1: People get down on him and I have, and a
Speaker 1: lot of people have about some of his behavior and
Speaker 1: his attitude and his ability to be a teammate. But
Speaker 1: he's always hurt. But good to Lamborghini when it's always
Speaker 1: in the shop. He bring all my tools. But Beckham's
Speaker 1: pumped about that fashion show. Yes, I would agree. I'm
Speaker 1: not as excited about that. Finally, also from rap sheet,
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals. Did I pronounce that correct? That's correct? Yes,
Speaker 1: are expected to be active in Yes. Um. Cincinnati has
Speaker 1: always been a word that whenever I type it, I'm
Speaker 1: always surprised at how it's spelled. To one spelled it.
Speaker 1: I grew up there, so it's been looked at you
Speaker 1: when I said it. It's ingrained in me. So I
Speaker 1: think it's peculiar when other people, but other people struggle
Speaker 1: with the extra end versus the extra T. I for
Speaker 1: years put that extra end after the sin. Oh see
Speaker 1: a lot of people c I N N N right
Speaker 1: instead of that second. Then a lot of people put
Speaker 1: a second t at the that's exactly that's so wild
Speaker 1: about it. I always pat myself on the back too.
Speaker 1: I'm like spaghetti right again, you didn't right. The NFL
Speaker 1: player version of that is Jimmy Garoppolo Garoppolo. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: but I first it's and then it's a polo's polo
Speaker 1: exactly right. Anyway, Bengals expected to be active in free agency,
Speaker 1: which yeah, no Doi, Okay, they've got a lot of
Speaker 1: holes to But also this makes all the sense in
Speaker 1: the world. Chris Westling, as a former or Cincinnati native
Speaker 1: that if there is any doubt, and there's still percolations,
Speaker 1: by the way, despite what Mr Burrow said and money,
Speaker 1: maybe you could back this up about things you might
Speaker 1: have heard that he's not totally sold on this. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna I'm the Ohio boy that's gonna stay home and
Speaker 1: play for the local team. If you go out and
Speaker 1: drop a ton of um money and resources and bring
Speaker 1: in players, that will send a message you would think
Speaker 1: to the kid that we are serious about building a winner.
Speaker 1: So not only would it functionally make your team potentially better,
Speaker 1: it also in the long run or in the short term,
Speaker 1: sends a message to this kid that maybe you need
Speaker 1: to send a message to what I feel like. I
Speaker 1: do this every year for somebody who usually roots against
Speaker 1: the Bengals. But if you strain hard enough, you can
Speaker 1: see this team making some major improvements. You're talking about
Speaker 1: a team that got nothing out of its first round
Speaker 1: draft pick last year. Jonah Williams, who was supposed to
Speaker 1: be the left tackle, got nothing out of second round
Speaker 1: picked Drew Sample, a tight end. So if those guys
Speaker 1: come back, they got nothing out of the number one
Speaker 1: receiver and best player A J. Green. They got very
Speaker 1: little out of John Ross, another first round pick. If
Speaker 1: you get all these guys back, and that's a big if,
Speaker 1: and they play well, and then you throw your free
Speaker 1: agent money at defense, which they desperately need linebackers and
Speaker 1: have for a few years, they desperately need help in
Speaker 1: the secondary. You could strain hard enough, I think, and
Speaker 1: see a team, especially with all the um one score
Speaker 1: losses they had last year, that's gonna even it. This
Speaker 1: is not your typical worst team in the NFL, number
Speaker 1: one pick team. They had a lot of bad luck
Speaker 1: last year on injuries and close games. I think you
Speaker 1: can see sort of like a seven nine team. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's too much to ask. But for them
Speaker 1: to spend money in free agency, you know, no, doy,
Speaker 1: they should because they have the cash. But that is
Speaker 1: a sharp left turn for the Bengals, who free agency
Speaker 1: to go year after year without doing a thing. Their
Speaker 1: biggest dip into free agency historically has been to bring
Speaker 1: a guy in on his tour so the agents can
Speaker 1: use the Bengals to drive up prices on other teams.
Speaker 1: Let me look at this helpful. They have a potentially
Speaker 1: like world their world shifting player and Joe Burrow potentially
Speaker 1: if there was ever time to spend some money, do
Speaker 1: it now and start building around. I think, have you
Speaker 1: heard it? Did you hear anything in Indy? I did, Yeah,
Speaker 1: type of whispers. I did hear that. Um, I think,
Speaker 1: you know, if the old truth serum, you don't want
Speaker 1: to play for Cincinnati. But I think he's also, you know,
Speaker 1: comfortable with the idea that hey, I'm gonna probably be
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick and and I'm gonna make
Speaker 1: the best of it. Um, It's it's hard to have
Speaker 1: you know, it's not the NBA. It's hard to have leverage. Um,
Speaker 1: it just is in in the NFL and He's not
Speaker 1: gonna sit out a year. The Bengals know that, So
Speaker 1: you know, the way for Joe Burrow to not end
Speaker 1: up in Cincinnati is to reach out to the team
Speaker 1: he wants to go to and say, hey, offer them
Speaker 1: whatever you have to offer them, and come get me.
Speaker 1: And I just don't think there's enough, you know, unless
Speaker 1: it's the Dolphins that say to the Bengals, hey, we'll
Speaker 1: give you all three. We'll give you all three of
Speaker 1: these first rounders, and we'll take number one. And I
Speaker 1: think that's something you'd have to think long and hard
Speaker 1: about if you were considering, like we talked about how
Speaker 1: deep this draft is, if you're the Bengals, that is
Speaker 1: something I would, you know, really consider. Can we get
Speaker 1: a free agent quarterback to come here? You know out
Speaker 1: of this group we're talking about musical chairs, right we're
Speaker 1: not thinking about the Bengals is one of those chairs.
Speaker 1: We're talking about a Brown family that owns this team.
Speaker 1: Right where in the past Mike Brown's comments and his actions,
Speaker 1: this goes way back twenty years ago, but the Achille
Speaker 1: Smith draft when he was offered what the Saints Scott
Speaker 1: for Ricky Williams and turned it down, he was offered
Speaker 1: the Redskins entire draft plus in that ex years first
Speaker 1: round and said, no, I've seen my quarterback of the future.
Speaker 1: It's rare that you get a chance to draft that guy.
Speaker 1: I'm taking him, and I think with Joe Burrow, he's
Speaker 1: a guy with perspective. Not every kid coming out of
Speaker 1: college has a great perspective. But he was forced to transfer,
Speaker 1: was not thought of as a top ten pick entering
Speaker 1: the season, and now he's in a enviable position of
Speaker 1: being the first guy in the draft. So you kind
Speaker 1: of like just say, hey, I'm in a better position
Speaker 1: than I thought I was ever gonna be and I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna enjoy the ride. And if you're Mike Brown too,
Speaker 1: you have to recognize, you know, Joe Burrows not only
Speaker 1: is he a talent, but he's he's got swagger, he's
Speaker 1: a star, and that city is going to love him
Speaker 1: because of where he's from and what he represents. I
Speaker 1: have to do it. Let's make it happen. Let's make
Speaker 1: Cincinnati fun. Um. Well, so real quick, Cincinnati, did you see?
Speaker 1: Burrow was asked, I guess about the chili the skyline
Speaker 1: of the gold Star, and he admitted he had never
Speaker 1: had gold Star, he had only had Skyline, and then
Speaker 1: he answered me either he was disgusted by the Skyline
Speaker 1: so much so that he would never even try. That's
Speaker 1: your thoughts, well, I used to be a gold starman.
Speaker 1: It's kind of running against the grand because almost everybody
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati Skyline, but almost. I used to be a
Speaker 1: Skyline then too, But now you know, I don't want
Speaker 1: to tell tales of the school. I make my own.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati chili is right, and I smoke all the meat
Speaker 1: first before I crumble it, right, and it gives it
Speaker 1: that extra thing from the smoke. So I'm glad wouldst
Speaker 1: chili over any like meat sauce. It is, but it's
Speaker 1: not it's Texas style chili. It's Greek immigrant Mediterranean immigrant
Speaker 1: style chili. What like, walk us through the cut real quick?
Speaker 1: Just I'm sorry, I've done it again. The difference between
Speaker 1: what said Cincinnati different is you've got cinnamon in there,
Speaker 1: You've got a little bit of chocolate, you've got all
Speaker 1: spice and clothes. So it's the all spice. The all
Speaker 1: spice definitely gives it that Greek sort. So no other
Speaker 1: city is allowed to make the dish this way. Or
Speaker 1: they or they just they're you know what, Cincinnati, you
Speaker 1: go ahead and cheap. The history of food is it
Speaker 1: comes from peasants. And these particular peasants landed in Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: and they did not land in Texas. Other peasants landed
Speaker 1: in Texas. You got peasants with chocolate and cinnamon. They
Speaker 1: don't sound like the head things don't sound too bad
Speaker 1: for these peasants. It's like, can we do can we
Speaker 1: do a West Chili cook off kind of thing here?
Speaker 1: So I can actually what's Cincinnati chili is supposed to time?
Speaker 1: I will bring some. I'm making a fresh batch soon.
Speaker 1: I will bring from it on the egg. I smoke
Speaker 1: it on the egg, and then I'd like to put
Speaker 1: it in the freezer for a long time, for like
Speaker 1: a month, let all those ingredients marry together, and then
Speaker 1: because of the smoke confusion, it's really gonna bring it
Speaker 1: out after a month. It sounds like a podcast to me.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like West was the first person that
Speaker 1: I knew really to promote the green egg? And now
Speaker 1: like every dude has a green egg, Like it's all
Speaker 1: over the place. It's like we get a fantastic are
Speaker 1: you were on the corner before many on the green Egg.
Speaker 1: That's you know, coming from the South. That I mean
Speaker 1: you you shifted across the damn country when you moved here.
Speaker 1: The NFL up it for me. Yeah, they're very light though.
Speaker 1: The only way about fifteen twenty pounds, two hundred pounds
Speaker 1: and there's no good angle to grill. There is not.
Speaker 1: Greg's back with you. Guys are still honking. We're about here.
Speaker 1: You haven't even gotten up the segment. No, it's good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who was the Siciliano? Very It was very professional, you
Speaker 1: know I got there. It was a little late what
Speaker 1: he did to me there, a little little little dig No. No,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, what am I gonna do? Take shots
Speaker 1: at the at the host. He's been hosting the show,
Speaker 1: you know longer? Do you have woe? What's fun? Greg
Speaker 1: comes down. Sometimes there's a there's a quarterback that's delivered
Speaker 1: six championships, is forty two years old, and you want
Speaker 1: to trade them out for a guy that through one
Speaker 1: of the worst passes in Super Bowl history because he's
Speaker 1: the shiny new thing. Speak to that. I don't wait.
Speaker 1: So which one are you? In this case? You're you're
Speaker 1: the good looking one. I'm the good looking one that
Speaker 1: can't play. Okay, that's who I am. UM money, you
Speaker 1: said it all so great to have said way too much. Um,
Speaker 1: And before you go, I will give you the top
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Speaker 1: the Greatest Hit Live, Greatest Hits Album number five, Lakini's
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Speaker 1: that upset white Comma discussion. Remember that one? Sadly Shadly
Speaker 1: I do. Number two. Don't you dare say it? Don't
Speaker 1: say it, don't say it. It's the worst song ever.
Speaker 1: It is in the same category is Incubus, is Nice
Speaker 1: to Know You? And Off Springs. Keep them separated. Just
Speaker 1: songs that I played five and I never understood how
Speaker 1: they were popular. How is three elevens all mixed up?
Speaker 1: A number one song? It's so got all that's you know,
Speaker 1: live live? These are genuine hits. I'm with number one,
Speaker 1: number one my live their biggest that was the Crash
Speaker 1: Test Dummies Number one is selling the drama. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's updated. I think that's the exact Why is
Speaker 1: it updated. There's been no movement with I think I
Speaker 1: told you this story of money when we're doing power
Speaker 1: rankings together last year. But I'll tell quickly against and
Speaker 1: she brought up three eleven. Uh. When I was living
Speaker 1: in Hollywood around two thousand eight, our neighbor was a
Speaker 1: soap opera star and he would come over the house
Speaker 1: and he'd kick my ass and ping pong and it
Speaker 1: was really degrading because he was so much better looking
Speaker 1: than me, and then he was kicking my ass athletically
Speaker 1: as well. It was rough. But one night we had
Speaker 1: a party and he was over and we were drinking
Speaker 1: and three eleven came up and he's like. I was like,
Speaker 1: I hate those guys. They suck. And then this soap
Speaker 1: opera star goes, hey, man, take it easy. Those guys
Speaker 1: are my friends. Me and Nick Hexham were like this.
Speaker 1: Now Amber from three eleven, like, is that that's excusable? Right?
Speaker 1: I just I still don't like it. It is the
Speaker 1: rest of eleven. If you're curious. Three eleven was playing
Speaker 1: the pre race show at the NASCAR event I went
Speaker 1: to last year with strangely not curious but away. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They were ten thirty in the morning. They were there
Speaker 1: and did your son. We did not. We did not
Speaker 1: make it. That's a sweet lick. We did not make
Speaker 1: it over to like you know, the Monster Energy drinks
Speaker 1: things for them terrible, So it looks like money when
Speaker 1: that would be my throwback pod like demeanor. What do
Speaker 1: you think of this? Terrible? This terrible? We're definitely secret.
Speaker 1: Somebody kicks off of the Keenis juice. Yeah great, I'll
Speaker 1: be there. Just go ahead and start rolling the tape
Speaker 1: and just don't wait for me. You get started without
Speaker 1: me if you need to. All right, Matt Money Smith,
Speaker 1: you've you've done it. Thank you, and you could check
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