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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty, Armstrong and

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Speaker 2: I am saying this because I'm really afraid that my

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Speaker 2: country's going to be further weakened by this. I think

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Speaker 2: we're going to see the end of American empire. Obviously

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Speaker 2: other nations would like to see that, and this is

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Speaker 2: a perfect way to scuttle the USS America on the

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Speaker 2: shoals of Iran. But it's also going to end, I believe,

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Speaker 2: Trump's presidency and effectively end it.

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Speaker 3: So there's Tucker Carlson on his very very viewed and

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Speaker 3: influential podcast, and then he goes on Bannon Steve Bannon's podcast,

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Speaker 3: and Bannon, who was, you know, a major advisor to

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Speaker 3: Trump when he got elected first time around. I don't

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Speaker 3: understands politics. I don't quite get that. Maybe we can

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Speaker 3: talk about that more. But to that comment that war

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Speaker 3: with Iran will destroy the American empire and Trump's presidency,

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Speaker 3: Trump was asked about that on the plane flying back

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Speaker 3: to the United States last night.

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Speaker 4: Were Carlson criticizing You're saying that you're complicit.

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Speaker 1: In the war.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what Tucker Carlson is saying. Let him

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Speaker 5: go get a television network and say it so that

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Speaker 5: people listen.

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Speaker 3: You let him go get a television network so people listen.

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Speaker 3: There's an old man who doesn't understand times have changed. Ah, yes, exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson has more viewers than practically every single show

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Speaker 3: on every cable.

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Speaker 1: Channel combined at once, combined at once.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yeah, name the Host or Meet the Press

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Speaker 3: or any of those shows on the major networks. Tucker's

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Speaker 3: audience is way bigger than Meet the Press.

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Speaker 1: Sure, or even the you know the alphabet networks Evening

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Speaker 3: So that's just a guy who surprisingly or he's just

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Speaker 3: trying to be because he understands modern media better than

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Speaker 3: most people. He takes advantage of it all the time.

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Speaker 3: See the fact that he announces things on Twitter. But uh,

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Speaker 3: maybe he's just poking Tucker, which you know he has,

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Speaker 3: he has a want to do. What is the Tucker

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Speaker 3: Steve Bannon worldview? I used to watch Tucker was on

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Speaker 3: I often loved his opening segment, often loved it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: but I couldn't figure out his worldview, like a consistent

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Speaker 1: I just couldn't. Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if I have the energy to get

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Speaker 6: uh have had crystallized in their mind. What does the

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Speaker 6: approach look like that gets the attention and money of

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Speaker 6: the clicks of the young, online, angry, hyper confident America first,

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Speaker 6: but in an isolationist kind of nationalist, hypernationalist way. They've

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Speaker 6: they've just crystallized that approach and it's been very, very PROFITGA.

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Speaker 3: Well, so you think that's an act the world a

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Speaker 3: large I figured out a niche to make a lot

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Speaker 3: of money for both him and Steve Bannon. I feel

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Speaker 3: like they believe it, and maybe Tucker is Tucker just

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Speaker 3: really what huh believe what?

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Speaker 1: Though? That's the problem.

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Speaker 6: I can't, like you started, I don't get what they're

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Speaker 6: pitching exactly, I think, and I don't know. Bannon is

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Speaker 6: different from Tucker, is different than Candace Owen's, is different

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Speaker 6: than you know, Matt Walsh, who intersects a little bit

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Speaker 6: There are a bunch of names out there and they

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Speaker 6: there's there's a lot of grift there.

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Speaker 3: Really. I I go back and forth on that. I've

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Speaker 3: watching he seems sincere to me. I don't know if

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Speaker 3: but he seems sincere to me, or he got so

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Speaker 6: Although the Iraq thing was in two thousand and three,

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Speaker 6: And again, just to make it clear, there are some

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Speaker 6: probably ten percent grift in ninety percent and sincere. There

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Speaker 6: some that are half and half. And y'all have to

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Speaker 6: remember it's possible to be completely sincere. And your worldview

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Speaker 6: white American men, it's time for you to go die

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Speaker 6: for Israel again. And then there's Tucker Carlson's favorite non historian,

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Speaker 6: historian Daryl Cooper, offering prayerful words of consolation to his followers.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, don't worry, friends.

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Speaker 6: As arrogant and invincible as he may seem, the end,

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Speaker 6: the devil and all his children are cast into the

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Speaker 1: He's talking about this the Jews, I guess.

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Speaker 3: So I agree with this critique that I've heard many times.

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Speaker 3: A number of the America First crowd seem to be

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Speaker 3: their decisions to do evil things is okay, but we

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Speaker 6: Well, that's why they call him the woke right in

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Speaker 6: some places, because the woke left says America's irredeemable. It

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Speaker 6: was founded on racism. It needs to be terror torn

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Speaker 6: apart for a brave Marxist future. And on the woke

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Speaker 6: right it's America's irredeemable. It's become run by the Jews

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Speaker 6: or the immigrants or whatever.

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Speaker 1: There are all sorts of variations.

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Speaker 6: Therefore, it needs to be torn apart and usher in

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Speaker 6: a beautiful ultranationalist something or other future. So here you

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Speaker 6: have one more. Here's Dave Smith, who was a comedian.

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Speaker 6: Allegedly he's big in these circles. He's big on Israel

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Speaker 6: committed genocide in gaz He was on Joe Rogan's podcast

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Speaker 6: There is no bigger media in America than Joe Rogan's podcast.

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Speaker 6: He referred to Trump reports that Trump is fully supporting

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Speaker 6: impotent bitch of a leader imaginable. He is allowing one

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Speaker 6: side of a war who clearly wants to drag us

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Speaker 6: Either way, Trump is betrayed MAGA and every principle of

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Speaker 6: America First. He is no longer worthy of any of

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Speaker 6: our support. He probably never was.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: So is this Trump's kind of weirdly sister soldier moment? Yesterday?

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Speaker 3: He told The Atlantic we repeated this. He said, I

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Speaker 3: invented American America first. It's my phrase. I get to

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Speaker 3: define what it is. I'm I'm the definer on This

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Speaker 3: is basically saying which is true, and you don't get to.

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Speaker 6: Tell me it's true until it's not. Many a leader

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Speaker 6: has been eclipsed by their own movement. But I'm betting

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he is not going to be eclipsed by his

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Speaker 3: He's going to lose a chunk of it, Certainly, he's

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Speaker 3: going to gain a whole bunch of more people. Though

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Speaker 3: I think, I mean this makes Trump look more sane

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Speaker 3: then than it doesn't, more help than harm because obviously

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Speaker 3: letting a ran get a nuclear weapon, how is that

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Speaker 1: That makes no sense whatsoever.

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Speaker 6: I think some of these people indulge themselves in a

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Speaker 6: fantasy that if we just keep to ourselves the rest

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Speaker 6: of the world, we'll just keep to themselves. I don't know,

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Speaker 6: just be lied by every moment of human history. Right in,

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Speaker 6: the world's smaller. The world's smaller than it's ever been

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Speaker 6: in terms of our ability to reach out and touch

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Speaker 6: someone and everybody. Else's one final note when Trump does

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Speaker 6: leave the scene, whether to go to heaven or hell,

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Speaker 6: or when he dies in short or just when he's

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Speaker 6: through as a president. And you know, he's an old fella,

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Speaker 6: so he might be a quote unquote kingmaker for a while,

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Speaker 6: but not indefinitely obviously, But as soon as he is

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Speaker 1: In my estimation.

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Speaker 3: Well, since you're talking about the end of the Trump era,

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Speaker 3: let's revisit the beginning of the Trump era. We missed

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Speaker 3: this anniversary yesterday. It was ten years ago yesterday. He

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Speaker 7: Ladies and gentlemen, I am officially running for president of

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Speaker 7: the United States, and we are going to make our

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Speaker 3: Not a person on planet Earth had any idea, how

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Speaker 3: consequential that was going to be for a decade or more,

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Speaker 3: And I'll always remember watching Fox Brett bar that night

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Speaker 3: them both played this clip about Trump's announcement. Kroudhammer said

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Speaker 3: it was a stunt and nothing more. George Will said,

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Speaker 3: I will not dignify it with a comment. That's how

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Speaker 3: in every way. He took over both parties. You're right,

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Speaker 3: because everything the Democratic Party does is a reaction to Trump.

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Speaker 3: He took over both parties for the next ten years.

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Speaker 6: Right, And the Middle East at the least will be remade,

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Speaker 6: I think in the next few years. And what's going

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Speaker 6: We haven't even gotten to Trump's just unhinged comments about

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Speaker 1: I can talk to him. You can't know. You can't

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Speaker 3: But anyway, obviously the last ten years he has dominated

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Speaker 3: both parties. He's got three years at three and a

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Speaker 6: Right, I'm just I'm talking less about politics than the

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Speaker 6: trajectory of world history. Sure, Middle East one hundred percent

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Speaker 6: has changed. What's going to happen in Europe? I kind

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Speaker 6: of derailed myself making the point what's going to happen

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Speaker 6: in Europe is still utterly unclear to me. But he

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Speaker 6: is an agent to change, no doubt.

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Speaker 3: If you're a person that lean's Tucker Steve Bannon, what's

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Speaker 3: your Let Iran get a nuclear weapon because it's.

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Speaker 1: Not our war, not our job.

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Speaker 3: I mean, canis owns suggesting white guys are gonna go

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Speaker 3: die for Israel, gonna die to stop a rent The

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Speaker 1: Us all forever, my whole life. They want a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 3: That's why we'd be going to war if indeed we do,

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Speaker 4: When the dust settles, You're going to see some surprises

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Speaker 3: Then we're out, and it's up for you. It's yours now, Israel.

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Speaker 6: Somebody please explain to Kookie Tucker Carlson that Iran cannot

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Speaker 1: Love it, Bengetti.

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Speaker 4: There's news in the case involving the death of actor

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Speaker 6: And don't give people drugs that you know might kill them.

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Speaker 6: And it's the Wall Street Journal editorial board talking about

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Speaker 1: Probably at this point.

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Speaker 6: They're talking about the Trump administration, the Department of Defense

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Speaker 1: So that happened in twenty three.

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Speaker 6: found great loyal Americans with the same last names and changed.

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Speaker 1: The fort's back.

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Speaker 3: Fort Lee now named after Peggy Lee, Who's sang?

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Speaker 1: How much? Is that Doggie in the window? A timeless classic,

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Speaker 1: no doubt? All right, So Jack, come on, what do

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Speaker 1: you think of this maneuver? Don't make it.

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Speaker 6: Seems jyvy as hell if but Fort Bragg is now

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Speaker 6: Fort Bragg again.

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Speaker 1: But it's a different brag.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So I guess I have to start at the

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Speaker 3: premise that we need the forts to have the same name,

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Speaker 3: because I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: I'd buy that. I get what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: And then but if I accept that, it still doesn't

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Speaker 3: it still doesn't it change the fact that if you

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Speaker 3: are an actual racist and or fan of the Confederacy

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Speaker 3: and believe something should be named for Robert E.

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Speaker 1: Lee, that you know. Okay, I know what we're doing.

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Speaker 3: You got to say this for the other people, but

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Speaker 3: we know, we know that you named him after the Confederates.

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Speaker 1: So cool, cool, We're with you, I mean, is it?

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Speaker 1: I mean?

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Speaker 3: I hate the term dog whistle. I think of the

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Speaker 3: time when I heard dog whizzle. It's inaccurate or over bolown,

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Speaker 3: but smitcho actually be one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. They mentioned in the National

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Speaker 6: Review that very few Americans who resisted the changing names

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Speaker 6: in twenty three did it out of affection for the Confederacy.

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Speaker 1: Right. They resisted because of the.

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Speaker 6: Spate of renaming seemed to be part of the whole

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Speaker 6: woke cultural recruit.

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Speaker 3: It all came with taking Thomas Jefferson's name off of

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Speaker 3: the school and everything.

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Speaker 1: It was all happening at the same time.

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Speaker 6: Right, which is why at the beginning of the show

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Speaker 6: I think it is, we have a recording saying from

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Speaker 6: the Abraham Lincoln Studios that the George Washington you know,

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Speaker 6: broadcast complex. That was a reaction to that, and the

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Speaker 6: idea was that no, no, no, if we let you

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Speaker 6: start with the Confederate generals, you're gonna end up turning

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Speaker 6: the Washington Monument into the transsexual Monuments or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Sure, just's a next thing, you know. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. This is clever, but is it smart?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's just yeah, they'll just go you know what, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: that's that's kind of a head scratcher.

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Speaker 1: Different people have different opinions.

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Speaker 6: Do you want to email us about this mail bag

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Speaker 6: at Armstrong e getty dot com or drop us a

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Speaker 6: note four one five two nine f KFTC to the idea.

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Speaker 3: That it wasn't actually you know, fans of the Confederacy

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Speaker 3: or racists that were fighting this. How many people ever

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Speaker 3: thought for a second about who Fort Bragg was named after?

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Speaker 1: He just referred to it as Fort Bragg because that's

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Speaker 1: what you knew it was called. I mean, it's just

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Speaker 1: I didn't do they look back on it?

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Speaker 3: And then how how many buildings, bridges, whatever do you

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Speaker 3: encounter every day in your life?

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Speaker 1: You know, across the Robinson Bridge? As back up today? Robinson?

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Speaker 1: Who Robinson? I don't know why it's the Robinson Bridge?

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Speaker 1: Nobody ever asks or cares.

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Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, Judy and I'll actually occasionally search on that

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Speaker 6: sort of thing when we're taking road trips.

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Speaker 1: Well, the John G. Robinson Bridge, Why don't you figure

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Speaker 1: out who John G. Robinson was?

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Speaker 6: Just to make the miles go by, And it's kind

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Speaker 6: of fun. Actually, here's another fun thing. You're you're driving

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Speaker 6: through a town, it's got like a big gaudy water

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Speaker 6: tower or something like that. You search on that town's name,

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Speaker 6: and and we've done this a couple of times, and.

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Speaker 3: I must stay in bed. Now, that's with fortune cookie.

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Speaker 1: That's your porn name. No, no, totally different thing.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 6: And and usually the Wikipedia entry has notable people who've

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Speaker 6: come from that town. And it'll be a couple of

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Speaker 6: running backs in the NFL, it'll be a Supreme Court justice,

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Speaker 6: it'll be a mass murderer, a porn star. And and

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Speaker 6: you know the guy who invented the penicillin or something.

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Speaker 1: That's a heck of a town makes them up.

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Speaker 6: Well, that's the virtually every town in America, honestly cool.

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Speaker 6: It's a it's a great way to make the miles

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Speaker 6: go by, go bye. Speaking of military acts, and oh,

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Speaker 6: back to your point about the whole Fort Brawd thing.

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Speaker 1: Two things.

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Speaker 6: It's worth reminding people over and over again that a

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Speaker 6: lot of that stuff wasn't named that in eighteen sixty six.

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Speaker 6: It was named that during the nineteen tens and twenties,

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Speaker 6: when pushes for real civil rights for Americans, ending the

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Speaker 6: Jim crowe are African Americans was being pushed, and a

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Speaker 6: lot of avowed racists wanted to celebrate the Confederacy. A

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Speaker 6: lot of that stuff was born for the worst possible motives.

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Speaker 6: Second thing is, you know, to your point, nobody knows

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Speaker 6: what Fort Bragg is. Anyway, I had another point that

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Speaker 6: got me back to fifty one forty nine in favor

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Speaker 6: of this. Yeah, it doesn't matter, let's move on. Well not,

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Speaker 6: I got distracted by my own Yeah, yeah, what was

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Speaker 6: it going to be is for bragged and named after?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. I'm back to that. This is unequivocally good.

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Speaker 1: I love this.

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Speaker 6: Executives from a bunch of big tech companies have joined

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Speaker 6: a new innovation Corps in the Army Reserve. It's a

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Speaker 6: new Army Reserve unit that enlists Silicon Valley executives to

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Speaker 6: upgrade the technical capabilities of the American Armed Forces.

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Speaker 3: It's a great idea, and you know, now that you

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Speaker 3: say it, it seems like OBS should have done this a

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Speaker 3: long time ago.

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Speaker 1: This is a great idea.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, they're referring to it as the nerd Corps. I

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Speaker 6: think is that what they're calling. Yeah, Executives from Metapallaneer

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Speaker 6: open AI are set to join the new Army Innovation

549
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Speaker 6: Corps bringing tech upgrades to the military. These tech reservists

550
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Speaker 6: will serve one hundred and twenty hours a year as

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Speaker 6: lieutenant colonels advising on AI in commercial tech acquisition. And

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Speaker 6: there is a real vein of patriotism and up with

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Speaker 6: America running through some of the higher reaches of Silicon

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Speaker 6: Valley right now, and an understanding that they're good buddies

555
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Speaker 6: from China, aren't their buddies whatsoever? Let's see, you know,

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Speaker 6: I could name these people. If you know them, you

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Speaker 6: know them. But here's this forty three year old guy

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Speaker 6: who wanted to be a fighter pilot.

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Speaker 1: He was too tall.

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Speaker 6: He went off to do other things, but he's never

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Speaker 6: lost his desire to serve the country. He's the chief,

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Speaker 6: the tech chief at Meta. Zuckerberg's going wow. He says,

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Speaker 6: there's a lot of patriotism that's been under the covers

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Speaker 6: that I think is coming to light in the valley.

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Speaker 6: And these guys will have to do.

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Speaker 1: Some physical fitness tests.

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Speaker 3: Indicating this for a while. Don't make them do a

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Speaker 3: certain number. Keep the guy out he can't do enough

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Speaker 3: push ups fast enough. Who freaking cares right?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 6: For the army, the deepening ties can help it prepare

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Speaker 6: for the wars of the future. Obviously it's all going

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Speaker 6: to be technology.

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Speaker 3: So I mentioned this was a mom of one of

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Speaker 3: my son's friends. They moved to Austin, Texas, like so

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Speaker 3: many people I now have have left California for the

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Speaker 3: obvious reasons. But anyway, she had been in the military.

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Speaker 3: I think she's FBI since then.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, she had to do all this physical fitness stuff.

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Speaker 3: She was a computer person like this that she was

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Speaker 3: super smart with computers, and that's what she did in

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Speaker 3: the military. And she never could understand the physical fitness

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Speaker 3: stuff or being able to shoot a gun. That's what

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Speaker 3: she talked about. If it ever gets to the point

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Speaker 3: where I need to shoot a gun, we're screwed. I

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Speaker 3: mean just sitting sitting in a building somewhere running a computer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we get. We got to change the requirements for

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Speaker 1: some of these jobs.

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Speaker 6: A lot of folks listening in Silicon Valley, you want

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Speaker 6: to keep the freedom that's given you the opportunity to innovate,

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Speaker 6: Like y'all, are you gotta protect this country. I love

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Speaker 6: this trend. Love it, love it, love it. Let's see

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Speaker 6: more of it, more of the way.

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Speaker 1: Here's our first one.

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Speaker 9: Peloton seemed like a good idea during the pandemic. Baked Lays,

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Speaker 9: you're gonna want to lubricate these things somehow.

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Speaker 1: That's true, Taco Bell. They don't have to be drug

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Speaker 1: but like.

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Speaker 9: Big loss, like if a giant picked up a target

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Speaker 9: and shook it, like a game of boggling. Grape nuts

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Speaker 9: because breakfast should hurt and finally funians. There aren't enough listerine.

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Speaker 3: Strips in the world to say to you now, baked lays,

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Speaker 3: you do need some water handy.

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Speaker 1: They are a bite full of the sahara to grape nuts.

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Speaker 3: Breakfast should hurt my son because I hate grape nuts

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Speaker 3: fairly regularly, and they're pretty healthy cereal. I mean there's

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Speaker 3: no sugar or fat in them or anything like that,

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Speaker 3: and lots of fiber, which I need incredibly bland, like

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Speaker 3: most healthy stuff is. My son had his first bowl

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Speaker 3: because he sees me eat him all the time.

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Speaker 1: He said, do you eat these things? He said, I

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Speaker 1: gotta throw them away.

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Speaker 3: I said, make a small bowl because you might not

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Speaker 3: like it because it is eating a little box or

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Speaker 3: a bowl of rocks.

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Speaker 1: Well, and it's dense as uranium.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, very filling. That's the other thing

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Speaker 3: I like about it. A couple of spoonfuls and I

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Speaker 3: am full.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 3: And the Peloton thing, which the crowd laughed at for

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Speaker 3: quite a while. I guess a lot of people did that,

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Speaker 3: but butcher exercisements.

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Speaker 1: Did you do that, kiddie? You're one of them? Yeah, guilty.

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Speaker 1: What is a Peloton? It's just a brand?

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Speaker 3: Or is it the recumbent bike that has the screen

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Speaker 3: and you can go on and take classes with people?

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Speaker 6: Well, and the poor folks at Peloton Peloton said, we're

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Speaker 6: growing like crazy and it'll keep happening, so let's expand

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Speaker 6: like crazy and invest.

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Speaker 1: All the money we're making into growing even more. And

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Speaker 1: then it all went kurb bluey.

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Speaker 3: I'm not mocking it because I've done it myself, but

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Speaker 3: it's amazing our ability to convince ourselves that if we

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Speaker 3: have the right piece of expensive equipment, we will exercise regularly.

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Speaker 6: That's the multon was pretty good good. It had some

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Speaker 6: real appeal to it because you'd take classes with the

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Speaker 6: screens and all sorts of stuff and have landscapes go.

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Speaker 1: By A missing link.

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Speaker 3: Is not my ambition or getting over laziness or I

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Speaker 3: just don't want to. Nope, it's the right equipment. That's

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Speaker 3: what a lens of that, So we'll fix it. We

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Speaker 3: do four hours every single day. If you miss an

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Speaker 3: hour or a segment, you could get it in podcasts

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Speaker 3: for them. You just subscribe to Armstrong and Getty on

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