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Speaker 1: presented by our friends and partners over at Brightly, keeping

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Speaker 1: us shining, making sure we're right all night. And this

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Speaker 1: But it was a lot tighter, and I love the

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Speaker 2: Watch, no question about it, Monday night. Really nothing at

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Speaker 2: came out buzzing early and often three touchdowns in that

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Speaker 2: first half. Rock Purty, my goodness, if if he didn't

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Speaker 2: want a contract, that sure didn't look like it tonight.

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Speaker 2: The guy was on fire and he certainly looks like

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Speaker 2: But Richard, I think being a Detroiter, and you hear

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Speaker 2: the landscape of Detroit media here talking about the Lions,

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Speaker 2: this week. The assumption was they were going to go

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Speaker 2: that was going to be it. The question was whether

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Speaker 2: in this game, especially offensively, and they give the Lions

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Speaker 2: You know, Detroit looked thethargic. They looked tired defensively, and

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Speaker 2: that's my big area of concern for the Detroit Lions

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Speaker 2: because offensively, Rich, I don't know if there's a better

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, you got to give your boys

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Speaker 1: a lot of love. You know, they played a very

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Speaker 1: San Francisco had other plays. They did it without Trenton Williams,

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Speaker 1: You know, Isaac Isaac Garndo caught some passes out of

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Speaker 1: two interceptions to Kirby Joseph, who was making his late,

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Speaker 1: Nine interceptions and two critical interceptions in the fourth quarter

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Speaker 1: they didn't fold it in. But Jared Golf those interceptions

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Speaker 2: start with Deebo Samuel. I know you got a tremendous

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure. I think they're loyal to the guys

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Speaker 2: Jamison Williams. This is a guy that I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: We saw tonight the defense can be an area of concern.

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Speaker 2: The bright spot being Kirby Joseph, And shout out to

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Speaker 1: I think Detroit needs it more. I think Detroit needs

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Speaker 2: One of the things that is very unique about Minnesota

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Speaker 1: Well, you just really never knows where the pressure is

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Speaker 2: Can we get a prediction? Who who does Richard Sherman

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Speaker 1: I think the hanl Blue Boys get it done. I

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Speaker 2: Well, Richard, with the forty nine Ers and Seahawks now

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Speaker 2: You're free to join any time. Rich Let's shift the

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Speaker 2: the Vikings because they played in a very tough game

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Speaker 3: A Tucker Craft a low block. Richard.

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Speaker 2: I know you always defend defensive players, and it seems

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think they should be thrown out the same

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Speaker 1: In this game, you could see it. In this game,

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Speaker 1: Kraft wasn't wasn't trying to keep him safe. He wasn't

432
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Speaker 1: going to keep him safe. He wasn't protecting him and

433
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 1: It wasn't even a necessary crazy block. You could have

434
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 1: hit him in his hip. You could have hit him

435
00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 1: in his hip like Harrison Smith did, moved him out

436
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 1: of the way and the hole would have been there.

437
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: But again, from the outside, in the public view, offense

438
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 1: can do no wrong. Hey, you heard a defensive player.

439
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 1: So what tough enough offensive player gets hurt. You're like dirty,

440
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,560
Speaker 1: They're dirty. You see how dirty these defenders are. He

441
00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 1: rolled over his ankles like I tackled him. I tackled him.

442
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: But stop the bullshit, man. I hate this part of

443
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 1: the league, I really do.

444
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,400
Speaker 2: I hate to tell you this, rich but Matt Lafleur

445
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 2: disagrees with you. He called the block a totally legal

446
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,639
Speaker 2: play and said it was the same thing there guys

447
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,959
Speaker 2: were doing to our defensive ends. Richard, I'm with you, man.

448
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,080
Speaker 2: They gotta take these types of plays out of the

449
00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 2: game because there's so much talent in this league in

450
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,160
Speaker 2: the show shame of it. And unfortunately, with me being

451
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 2: a homer with Detroit Lions fan, you see it. You

452
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,520
Speaker 2: see what injuries can do, and they happen at random,

453
00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: at any time, These types of plays that are totally unnecessary.

454
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 2: This hit by Tucker Craft was totally unnecessary and he's

455
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,159
Speaker 2: to be taken out of the game. Defensive players need

456
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 2: to be protected more, Richard, Let's move on. We got

457
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 2: Week eight team around at eighteen around the corner. There's

458
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 2: only so many games that really truly matter. There's some

459
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 2: teams with outside shots to make it into the playoffs,

460
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 2: you know, one of which Cincinnati Bengals, the other which

461
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 2: is the Miami Dolphins. You know, we see some on

462
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 2: the NFC side as well. But like Richard, with these

463
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 2: games that really don't matter, and I know you've played

464
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 2: in a couple of them late in the season. Like

465
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,359
Speaker 2: I know you said, hey, start the Lions roster today,

466
00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 2: But like, what's your where's your mindset at? With somebody

467
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 2: like the Buffalo Bills who have absolutely nothing to play for.

468
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 2: Do you tried out Josh Allen there and try to

469
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 2: keep his consecutive start streak alive because that's what it

470
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 2: sounds like they're gonna do.

471
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if they got like that, I'm sure

472
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 1: you go out there and allow him to keep it alive.

473
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 1: You know, you don't punish the player for having a

474
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 1: good season, team having success. I think you go out

475
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: there and let him get a few snaps in, you know,

476
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 1: keep them safe, easy run plays, let him hand the

477
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,200
Speaker 1: ball off a few times, and get out of there

478
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: and put your backups in and finish the game. Andy Reid,

479
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: I think it's a little bit different because they know

480
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,879
Speaker 1: they have to buy, so sitting your starters for this

481
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: week and next week, that's how things get crazy. But

482
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,719
Speaker 1: you know Andy Reid, obviously back to back Super Bowls.

483
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 1: He knows better than me, so I'm sure he'll make

484
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Speaker 1: the best decision that he believes in, and they'll go

485
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: out there. I think they'll play, at least some of

486
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: their guys. I think Chris Jones, who didn't play last week,

487
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Speaker 1: if he's healthy enough to go, I think he plays

488
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Speaker 1: at least a quarter or two, treated like a third

489
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Speaker 1: preseason game. Maybe play a half with these guys and

490
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 1: then let him rest the other half. You really don't

491
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: care about the result of the game unless you're really

492
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Speaker 1: that focused on the record, and I don't think they are.

493
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Speaker 1: I think they go out there and let the guys play.

494
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 1: You let them get their feet wet, let them go

495
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,679
Speaker 1: through the motions, and then wrest them because you just

496
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 1: don't want to not play football. For two weeks and

497
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: then go into the most intense game of your season

498
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 1: in the playoffs and think it's going to be an

499
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Speaker 1: easy game. So that's what I think he'll do. But

500
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Speaker 1: you know, again, Andy Reid is a great coach, one

501
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: of the greatest coaches to ever coach this game. He

502
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: knows better than me.

503
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Speaker 3: Well.

504
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick chimed in on this today too, and he said,

505
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Speaker 2: you know, if you're gonna rest your six best players,

506
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Speaker 2: how do you explain it to the rest of your team.

507
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 2: I mean, this is not like basketball, right. Every player

508
00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 2: on this team is important and injuries can come at

509
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,160
Speaker 2: any time. So if you're gonna rest somebody, you might

510
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 2: as well rest everybody. But we'll see how they handle this. Bill,

511
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:44,320
Speaker 2: that's that's enough.

512
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Speaker 1: How do you explain to him that you're paying some

513
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: guys fifty million and the other guys five hundred thousand.

514
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: They understand that's how football.

515
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 2: He is.

516
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:54,479
Speaker 1: Hey, why why am I not getting paid the same

517
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: amount as Travis Kelsey. Yeah, because Travis Kelsey is Travis Kelsey.

518
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 1: That's why he's getting arrest Everybody understands that. Guys, this

519
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: is in New England. Again. Everybody gets confused with the

520
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 1: New England mentality, and everybody's even though everybody, everybody's not

521
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 1: even everybody's not created equally on these football teams. And

522
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 1: I guarantee you everybody on that roster fully understands who

523
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: the guys are and who not the guys are, who

524
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: has to play and who will not play. And I

525
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:20,880
Speaker 1: don't think they will beat an eyelash or feel any

526
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 1: offense to it. They will say, hey, Pat's in them,

527
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: Hey Christ you all right? You need some water, Like

528
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out here and play, but you you good?

529
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think they're gonna have problem with that.

530
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Speaker 2: Mitchgell, Let's look at the playoff picture here we've got.

531
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Speaker 2: Let's start with the AFC. I mean, really, there's a

532
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,679
Speaker 2: couple of teams that can still play their way in

533
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: at the Miami Dolphins and the Cincinnati Bengals. Cincinnati Bengals

534
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 2: need to hell of a lot of luck. I mean,

535
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 2: they need all eyes will be on the Broncos playing

536
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 2: against Kansas City Chiefs, and they also need the Dolphins

537
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 2: loose to the Jets. But Richard, as it stands right now,

538
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 2: we look at this and you got the Denver Broncos

539
00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: playing buff Low week one, the Chargers playing the Ravens

540
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 2: Week one, Steelers against the Texans, and Kansas City Chiefs

541
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: with the bye, and then Richard with the NFC. We

542
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: got green Bay going on the road against Philly, the

543
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: Commanders going on the road to the Rams, the Vikings

544
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 2: the five seed somehow of fourteen wins playing the Buccaneers,

545
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 2: and then the Lions God Willing with the bye week

546
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 2: what's your favorite matchup with all these games, I guess

547
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,120
Speaker 2: you would.

548
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: Have to say green Bay Philadelphia. You know this game

549
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: will happen in the States this time instead of in Brazil,

550
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: so that'd be a really fun matchup between really talented teams.

551
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: I would have Philadelphia winning that game, but I think

552
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: it'd be a good game in Philly. I think it'd

553
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: be good for the fans, good for the league. I still,

554
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 1: you know, holding out hope that Joe Burrow and the

555
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals get in. But if I'm the Kansas City

556
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: Chiefs and one of the only guys to ever put

557
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: me out of the playoffs has a chance to get

558
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: in and I have to help him get in, I

559
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 1: don't think I'm when everything I can to help him

560
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: get in Mitchell, I don't think they're gonna do everything

561
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: they can. If this game is close and they need

562
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 1: to fight back, they need to two minute drive to

563
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: go up, they'll probably ruin the ball in this. Hey,

564
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 1: they're they're down three with a minute and a half

565
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: to go. I don't even know if they're running two

566
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: minute drill, Mitchell. I don't even know if they put

567
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz into two minute drill with a chance to

568
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 1: put Joe Burrow in these playoffs, And not that Joe

569
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,159
Speaker 1: Burrow has the team that can win it, but do

570
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: you even want to chance it? Do you even want

571
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: to put him in there? Like? Do you do you

572
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: really want to potentially see him? And I'm sure the

573
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills are feeling the same way. Hey, we'd be

574
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: okay to We'll be okay seeing not seeing him bow

575
00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: Nicks is fine. We'll take we'll take this defense, really

576
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: good defense in Denver, but we'll take them overseeing seeing

577
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: them boys, and I'd be okay. And I think that's

578
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: where it's gonna end. I think that's what's gonna gonna

579
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 1: it's gonna be. I don't think the Kansas City Chiefs,

580
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: not that they're scared of him, Like, don't don't start

581
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: any controversy about that. There the Super Bowl champions and

582
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 1: can compete with anybody, but he's a very dangerous quarterback

583
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 1: to let in the playoffs, and if he gets in,

584
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,840
Speaker 1: things get a lot more complicated for some of these teams.

585
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 2: Richard, is this something that actually happens in the NFL?

586
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 2: The team's jockey for positions so they don't have to

587
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 2: play a team Like is that ever gone through your

588
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 2: your your mind or any of your teammate's minds down

589
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 2: the stretch of a playoff run?

590
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 3: Who you're playing Week one of the playoffs?

591
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: Well, I've rarely ever not been the one seed, But no,

592
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: I mean I don't think so, because it's the arrogance

593
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: and confidence and pridefulness of football and football players, like

594
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: you think you can beat anybody. So at least I've

595
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: never seen it in our locker rooms. And I can't

596
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: speak for other locker rooms because I haven't been in those.

597
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: But there's never been a team you're ducking. You're happy

598
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: to see them all. You're hoping that you get the

599
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: toughest of them so that the legacy could be what

600
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: it needs to be, Like We're happy to go through

601
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: who we need to go through to get this done.

602
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,720
Speaker 1: You know we went through Drew Brees one time. We

603
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: have to go through Aaron. We tried to get through Tom.

604
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 1: You know, they threw an interception at the one. Or

605
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: we would have went to we'd have went through all

606
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: of them that year, we'd have went through let's see,

607
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: we would have went through MVPA Rod, Tom, And what

608
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: do we having Indivisional? I think we had CAM and

609
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: divisional and we got them boys. But yeah, you want

610
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: to go against the best. So I don't think anybody's

611
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: ducking smoke like that. But I again, as a team,

612
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 1: if you have that, if you're in that position, I

613
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: don't think you go to win that game, you know

614
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: what I mean? Not that they're gonna be like, oh,

615
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna go out here and lose the game. No,

616
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna play. They're gonna game plan to win. They're

617
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: gonna do everything they need to do. But if the

618
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: game comes down and Denver's up three with two minutes

619
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: to go, do they really go down there and look

620
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: to win this game? Are they really gonna be out

621
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: there trying to execute down a stretch to win this game.

622
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, We'll see, you know, well, all we

623
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:02,360
Speaker 1: can do is see and if they do, color me surprise.

624
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 2: One team that is not part of this playoff discussion

625
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 2: is the Seattle Seahawks. Unfortunately, they've been eliminated from playoff contention.

626
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: This is a huge offseason for them, Richard. They got

627
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: a lot of questions that are in front of them,

628
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 2: starting with Geno Smith. How do you think they handle

629
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 2: the Geno Smith situation? Do you extend them, should they

630
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 2: extend them? Where's your head at with Geno Smith?

631
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what they'll do. You know, it seems

632
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: like the coach and staff loves him. He doesn't have

633
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: a high cap number right now. You have enough money

634
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,600
Speaker 1: to be able to go out out there and put

635
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: some talented offensive linement in front of them, whether it's

636
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: true to draft or free agency. They can do a

637
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 1: number of things. They can extend them, or they can

638
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 1: increase the money that he's making next season, just to

639
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: appease him and to kind of band aid it going

640
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: into the next season and hope that, you know, they

641
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: can get another you know, let's see year out of

642
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: him and if he plays well, then you extend him

643
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: for a certain amount of money mid season or you don't.

644
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think you get rid of him.

645
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Speaker 1: I think he at least plays out this contract. You know,

646
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: maybe they wait and see, give him a little bit

647
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: of a bone this season, I mean this offseason, which

648
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 1: would make some of the incentives or something guaranteed, you know,

649
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: something like that where it would make sense where it's like, hey,

650
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: we're not going to make you chase incentives and do

651
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: all that this season. We're we're gonna give you these

652
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 1: you know, maybe put some voidable years over it to

653
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: make sure the contract is what it needs to be

654
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: and it's not crippling them in any way. But I

655
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: don't I don't know if they're in the mood to

656
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: send anybody at this point in time. But they're also

657
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: not going to be in a position to draft high

658
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: enough to quote unquote draft a franchise quarterback. So unless

659
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: you get lucky and get a late round guy who's

660
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: just a menace and we can play the game at

661
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: a high level, I think you continue with Gino and

662
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 1: that's the best case scenario. And I know fans are

663
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: sitting there, like, get rid of Geno, But again, you

664
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: can do a lot worse than Geno, and and sometimes

665
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: you need to see that, and I don't think I

666
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to see it. I don't want

667
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: to see them do worse. I don't want to see

668
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: Geno with a good offensive line some time to pass

669
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: the football and win some games.

670
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: There's been a little bit of buzz developing around the

671
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: possibility of DK Metcalf getting traded this offseason as well.

672
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: Do you think it's time for a new space for

673
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: DK Metcalf or do you think that they can get

674
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: this back on track here in Seattle?

675
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: It depends, you know, where would he go? You know

676
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: what makes sense? Again, he's only played in Seattle, and

677
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: he's done. He's done a good job, you know. But

678
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe you know, everything runs its course.

679
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 1: So I'm sure the discussions will be out there. And

680
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 1: if something makes sense for John Snyder in the Seattle

681
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: Seahawks and make them a move where they get a

682
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 1: very high draft compensation, I don't think they'd get take

683
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: anything less than a second rounder or so for maybe

684
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: second and third for DK and him getting a home

685
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: with a quarterback that that is a good quarterback. You know,

686
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 1: you don't want to leave a quarterback that's productive for

687
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: a young quarterback or a quarterback you don't know, you know,

688
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: but I'm trying to think of places I think he

689
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,520
Speaker 1: could go and really thrive. I mean, he could thrive

690
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: in any system, but there aren't a lot of teams

691
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: that are in need of a wide receiver that have

692
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: any elite quarterback getting a job done right now, And

693
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: I think that's going to be the issue he'll run into.

694
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: Do you want to go chase the money and be

695
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: on a team with a quarterback that you're unsure about,

696
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 1: or do you stay home and go with what you

697
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: know and just try to try to tough this out

698
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: and maybe see the other side of this team and

699
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 1: see if they can be better in year two with

700
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: Mike McDonald and his staff and Ryan Grubb offensive coordinator

701
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: in another year and more experience under the belt. So

702
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 1: I don't think they trade him. But you know, I've

703
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: been long before.

704
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,680
Speaker 2: Let's shat about the defensive player of the Year race.

705
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: It looked like it was TJ. Watts signed, sealed and delivered.

706
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: He had a huge lead, especially in Vegas odds. But Patzertan,

707
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 2: your boy, you speak so hot highly of this young man.

708
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: His odds are surging. He's at plus one fifty right

709
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 2: around there to win the Defensive Player of the Year,

710
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: and he certainly looks like he deserves it, Richard. He

711
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: would be the only second corner since twenty ten to

712
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 2: win the Defensive Player of the Year awards, to find

713
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: Gilmour being the other one in twenty nineteen. Who do

714
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: you like down the stretch? I know you mentioned my

715
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: guy Kirby Joseph here. Who do you see winning this

716
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year award?

717
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: Well, obviously TJ. Watt felt like he was snubbed for

718
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: it last year, and so you know I would I

719
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: would guess he has a continues to make a good

720
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: case for it. Obviously got a little banged up down

721
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: a stretch, but certain could definitely be a great choice.

722
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: Has done a great job at a very high level,

723
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: and I think people are starting to recognize that it

724
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: doesn't always show on the stat sheet, even though he

725
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 1: is are showing on the stat sheet this year. He's

726
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: got a number of interceptions, got one hundred yard pick six,

727
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 1: But his coverage, his technique, it's teach tape every single game,

728
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: every single week. You can turn on the tape. You

729
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: don't have to be specific about what play. You could

730
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 1: turn on any game, close your eyes, move it to

731
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 1: the third quarter, you know, second drive of the third quarter,

732
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: and he's going to be playing great defense. And I

733
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: think it's cool to see him get the recognition and

734
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: get the attention that he deserves, because you don't always

735
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 1: get the attention when you don't get a lot of targets,

736
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,240
Speaker 1: you don't get a lot of chances to make plays,

737
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: and so people really don't really appreciate the job that

738
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: you're doing. So it's really cool to see that they're

739
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,399
Speaker 1: seeing what he's doing and the impact that he's having

740
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,720
Speaker 1: on his Broncos defense of playing at a really high level.

741
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 1: And I've always said you should reward great defenses by

742
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 1: putting the defensive Player to the Year on their team. Clearly,

743
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: these guys are playing standout defense, and I think that's

744
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: been the biggest My biggest gripe with Defensive Player of

745
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: the Year as it stood, is it goes to guys

746
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: on average defenses a lot of times, and it's like,

747
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: that's not the defensive Player to the Year. It might

748
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: be statistically, but that'd be like me saying the offensive

749
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 1: player of the Year is just a guy who's putting

750
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: up the greatest offensive stats on a bad offense or

751
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: a middling offense. You wouldn't say that because you always

752
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: say the MVP and Offensive Player of Year is going

753
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: to go to a guy on winning teams on top offenses.

754
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: It's not going to go to a guy on an

755
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: average offense, even if he has really insane stats. And

756
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: so I think Defensive Player of the Year should be

757
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: the same. I got frustrated that they gave it to

758
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: Luke Keikley that year when we had the number one

759
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 1: defense in a land. I thought myself, our Earl Thomas

760
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: would get it. They said we split votes, so neither

761
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: of us got it. And I thought, you know, Luke

762
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: had had a pretty good season, but I thought I

763
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: thought I had a better season. I thought Earl had

764
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: a better season. I thought our defense overall had a

765
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: much better season than their defense. It was a legendary

766
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 1: season they still talk about. And so you got guys

767
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: having great seasons and it's not being appreciated that way.

768
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 1: And I hope that Patrick Shirtain wins it just so

769
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: that corners can be recognizing the way they should be.

770
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: Well, you're not wrong about that.

771
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: I mean, if you apply the same logic that people

772
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: are using to vote for Defensive Player of the Year,

773
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow would be the MVP and Offensive Player of

774
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 2: the Year this year. You called it early on in

775
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: this podcast, Kirby Joseph I just looked rich. Would you

776
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 2: believe he's plus twoint fifty for the defensive Player of

777
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: the year right now? After this game, he's third in

778
00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: line behind TJ. Watt and Patrick's are tan for defensive

779
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 2: player of the year. He puts together one more big

780
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: game against the Minnesota Vikings and who knows, maybe he

781
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: comes from from way to downtown and wins this thing.

782
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 2: Let's talk a little bit about the San Francisco forty

783
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: nine ers. I mean, we already talked about this game

784
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 2: against the Lions. We wrapped up a very disappointing season

785
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 2: almost They're six and ten right now, and I would

786
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 2: imagine they're gonna rest some guys in week eighteen. Where

787
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: do you start this offseason? How do you prove improve

788
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 2: this team? Jed Orcardi says, Shanahan and Lynch aren't going anywhere,

789
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: But where do you start? It can't just be healthy bodies.

790
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 2: Give me some other ideas of how we get back

791
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: to glory here in San Francisco.

792
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: You gotta get gotta get rid of Jake Moody and

793
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 1: that's gonna be on the priorities list. Get get better

794
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: kicking address the special teams is that you had offensive line.

795
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 1: I said it before. You're gonna have to draft offensive

796
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: lineman early and often, and do you draft him with

797
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: a top ten pick. It looks like San Francisco may

798
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: be in line for the tenth eleventh pick. Do you

799
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: draft an offensive lineman there or do you trade back

800
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: and try to get multiple of them? But that needs

801
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: to be your focus. You need to draft well. You

802
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: need to get back to drafting pass rushers. You know

803
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: the guys you know we talked about Hardgrave who got

804
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: injured very early in the season, is a lot of money.

805
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: He costs a lot of money and did not get

806
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: to have an impact this season, didn't have a great

807
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: impact last season. But do you bring him back? Do

808
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: you renegotiate that deal or is he a cap casualty?

809
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't know. You need depth. Depth is where you

810
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: need to continue to go. You know, you got receivers,

811
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,720
Speaker 1: you're paying receivers. What do you do with Deebo Samuel.

812
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: I think you keep him, but you need depth. A's

813
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: a running back position you need. Again, you cannot have

814
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,800
Speaker 1: enough offensive lineman. Trent Williams hopefully comes back fully healthy

815
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: and you you can use the experience that the offensive

816
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,840
Speaker 1: line got in this time where he's been away. But

817
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: I think a new center, a new right tackle, or

818
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: at least competition at least if you're gonna I don't

819
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: think you draft the first round center, but the first

820
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 1: round centers that have gotten drafted have done very well.

821
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: If that's the direction you want to go, then go

822
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: in that direction and believe in that and and go

823
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: with that, because that's what's gonna have to change. Like

824
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: you just saw tonight, you know, this is still a

825
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: team that can compete with anybody, But defensively, somebody else

826
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: has to get to the quarterback other than Nicholas John Bolsa.

827
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: You need somebody else to win. You need individuals that

828
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: can win from a dtackle spot. Do you bring Theforest

829
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: Buckner back? I would. I would do my best to

830
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: try to bring him back home. And because him and

831
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: Nicholas John Bosa would create havoc. You know see what

832
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: Eric Armstead is doing out there in Jacksonville. You know,

833
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,959
Speaker 1: do they keep him? He's he a cap casualty out there.

834
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: You know, you call the old guard and I know

835
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 1: fans are sitting there like, man, I need something else.

836
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: I hear you, but I I this is what works.

837
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 1: These are guys that work in this system. These are

838
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,359
Speaker 1: guys that work with this organization. These are guys that

839
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: have shown you on tape that it works within this scheme,

840
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 1: and I think it would do well or you find

841
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: guys comparable, But you got to address the old line

842
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: D line. You want to be a championship team. That's

843
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 1: where championship teams are built, and that's where they got

844
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,760
Speaker 1: to focus, and I think they will.

845
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 2: Let's move on to buy or sell, Richard. I'm gonna

846
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,120
Speaker 2: give you a couple of statements here. You're gonna tell

847
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,439
Speaker 2: me whether you're gonna buy or sell them. Let's start

848
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 2: with the Coach of the Year. Jim Harbor, your former

849
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 2: coach at Stanford, will win the Coach of the Year.

850
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 3: Buy or sell.

851
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: I want to buy it, but I'll sell that just

852
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: because of Kevin O'Connell has done such a great job.

853
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,720
Speaker 1: You know, like we just said, he's got a fourteen

854
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: win team. This wasn't. This is a team that came

855
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,399
Speaker 1: in a season without a quarterback, without knowing who they

856
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 1: were going with that quarterback. And I don't think anybody

857
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 1: had them in the spot that they that they are

858
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: in right now would have chanced to be the number

859
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Speaker 1: one seed and have a buy in home field throughout

860
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I mean, I think he has to be

861
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: the runaway coach of the year. I think Dan Campbell

862
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: had a really talented team and so they won't give

863
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: him the credit that he deserves because the expectations were

864
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 1: high coming into the season. But I think you could

865
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: give him a consideration for coach of the year with

866
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: what he's done. And it's true with the floor, you know,

867
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 1: I think what he did with Malik Willis and him

868
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: coming in and playing great football is really phenomenal. But

869
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: I think what Jim's done is really incredible. You know,

870
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: this wasn't a great team last year. Maximizing the talent

871
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: of that defense and getting the most out of this

872
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 1: offense running the football efficient from Justin Herbert, I think

873
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 1: you would consider it in many years. But if Minnesota's

874
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,240
Speaker 1: a fifteen win team, even if they're still a fourteen

875
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: win team at the end of the day, I think

876
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 1: that's coach of the Year material.

877
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: Richard nick Wright had a wild take, but this is

878
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 2: how we would build the reb the Patriots this offseason.

879
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 2: He would trade Drake May, draft Travis Hunter, Shador Sanders,

880
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 2: and hire Dion Sanders. Are you buying or selling this approach?

881
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: I know what's wild, but would you buy or sell

882
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 2: this approach? Just in general?

883
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: I would sell every part of it, and I wouldn't

884
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: touch it with a five thousand foot pole. Dion Sanders

885
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: in New England sounds like oil and water, and I

886
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 1: don't need to mix oil and water. I mean, it's

887
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 1: it's it's an awful combination. And I don't think anybody

888
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: wants to see that. And I don't think Dion deserves that.

889
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: Those fans are a different breed, and I don't think.

890
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,479
Speaker 1: I don't think Dion Sanders is you're not going Bill

891
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: Belichick and then you know, and then Dion Sanders after

892
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: after one coaching change, Like, I don't think they're prepared

893
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: for that. Uh, Chador, And you know the way he

894
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: carries himself, the way he plays the game, it's fun,

895
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: it's he's a Showman, it's a good time. But I again,

896
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: in the New England Patriots organization and their fans are

897
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: accustomed to very specific ways of doing business, and that

898
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,840
Speaker 1: would be a totally different way of doing business in

899
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: New England, so that that sounds ridiculous to me.

900
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 2: Let's stay on this topic real quick. If Dion were

901
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: to head into the NFL at any point, if for

902
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: as a head coach, what team do you think he

903
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 2: would have the best fit with?

904
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 1: Dallas?

905
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 3: No question?

906
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 2: How about his son, Shador Sanders. I mean, obviously it's

907
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 2: looking like he's going to be a top pick of

908
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 2: this draft. Doesn't know if he's going to be the

909
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 2: number one, but we know quarterbacks go high. Who do

910
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 2: you think at the top of this draft would give

911
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 2: him the best place to start?

912
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: And Drew Locke said, hey, you want to seem to

913
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: draft you? Huh? He said, you you want to come

914
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: in and wear two?

915
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 3: All right?

916
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 1: I got something for you. All right, I'll make sure

917
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: we're not drafted number one and then we'll see how

918
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: this goes. You want to wear New York Giants cleats

919
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 1: and you in your bowl game? Drew Lock, you're a

920
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 1: bit Drew Lock is the villain and I love it.

921
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: I love it, and people can't get mad. You know,

922
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: he went out there to win the game. You don't.

923
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 1: You don't go out there to lose the game. And

924
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:12,840
Speaker 1: we talked about that, but it is just crazy. Shador

925
00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: sanders Ward, the cleats that game, and then Drew Lock

926
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 1: goes in there and fires off a win forty five

927
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: point points against the Indianapolis coach who were fighting for

928
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: their playoff lives. And now you have the Browns and

929
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: Titans in front of them, both needing a quarterback. Potentially.

930
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: I know he ain't going to play for them, so

931
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to test. What if Dion was Sirius

932
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: when he said I'm not gonna just let my son

933
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: go anywhere.

934
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 2: Well, we'll see, all right, Rich, you're back to buy herself.

935
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: The Bills are rooting for the Bengals to miss the

936
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: playoffs by herself.

937
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: I'll sell that because again what we talked about, no,

938
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 1: no team really. The Bills feel confident and they feel good.

939
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: They got Josh Allen and MVP candidate in the backfield.

940
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: U Cook is running the ball as well as anybody.

941
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 1: The receivers are making huge plays. Their defense is opportunistic.

942
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: I think they feel like they can play with anybody,

943
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 1: So I'll sell that. I don't think they're rooting for

944
00:45:10,280 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: the Bengals to miss the playoffs. Now, if you ask them,

945
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: you know, an honest question, and they had to drink

946
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: truth serum, who they would rather play the Bengals or

947
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: are the Broncos? I think they would say the Broncos.

948
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: But you know who am I just a humble servant.

949
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 3: Richard.

950
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: We talked about it a bit on the last podcast,

951
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: and it was about Pete Carroll. You said, this guy

952
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: is a culture changer that any organization, especially a team

953
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: like the Chicago Bears, might benefit from. And it sounds

954
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 2: like he's interested in coming back and coaching. But Willie Richard,

955
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll will coach in the NFL in twenty twenty five,

956
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 2: by or so.

957
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: I can buy that for all the reason when we

958
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: talked about I mean, he's a culture builder. And I

959
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: think they've seen the offensive gurus do well in the

960
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: National Football League. You know, you talk about Kevin O'Connell,

961
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 1: you talk about even Mike McDaniel, but you've also seen

962
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: Jim Harball come back in a culture builder, a guy

963
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: who just seems to go there, establish what he wants

964
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,240
Speaker 1: to establish, play the game the right way, his players

965
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: maximize their potential, and they win, and they take a

966
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: team that's supposed to go to the playoffs to the playoffs.

967
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: Everybody plays up to the level they're supposed to. He

968
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: makes great coaching decisions in game, he makes great personnel

969
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 1: decisions and great motivation for his players. So I think

970
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll will will benefit from from Jim Harball's success

971
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: in LA and I think a team will take a

972
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: chance on him. Now. The age difference is going to

973
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: be the issue, but I don't think, you know, I

974
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: think that'll be a long conversation or a short conversation

975
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: because they'll see how energetic Pete still is. His love

976
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: for the game, his dedication is still there, and I

977
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: don't think he's going anywhere. So they're going to study

978
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 1: his DNA once it's all said and done to have

979
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: that kind of enthusiasm at what seventy three, But I

980
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 1: think he gets a shot.

981
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 2: And fine Patrick Mahomes might not make the Pro Bowl

982
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 2: all things considered, playing in the AFC with Joe Burrow

983
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:11,720
Speaker 2: and Josh Shalon, Lamar Jackson et cetera.

984
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 3: By or Sell Patrick Mahomes will not.

985
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: Be a pro bowler. Well, too popular of the player,

986
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: I sell that. You know, I know everybody's having a

987
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,240
Speaker 1: great year, Burrow's having a great year, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson.

988
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,400
Speaker 1: All that is well and good. And this is why

989
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: I really like the way they used to They started

990
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: to do it for a little while. There was a

991
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 1: time in there they just took the best regardless of

992
00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: conference and put them together. And you know, sometimes you'd

993
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 1: have four or five quarterbacks from one one conference and

994
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 1: you'd have one or two from another conference. You know,

995
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 1: if that's the way it shook out. And I think

996
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,399
Speaker 1: that's the right way to do it. But I think

997
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: he finds a way to get voted in because he's

998
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: such a popular player. He's such a guy that has

999
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: been consistent for so long. You know, coming off a

1000
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: super Bowl, they're fifteen and one. I don't think he'll

1001
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 1: be an All Pro, which will you know is obvious,

1002
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: But yeah, I can buy him not being a pro.

1003
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,839
Speaker 1: I can buy it. I could buy it. I can

1004
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: buy it. I could buy it.

1005
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: You know, maybe you talked yourself into it, then talked

1006
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: yourself out of it. Rich But that's the lovely thing

1007
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 2: about buy yourself. Let's move on, though, Richard, this is

1008
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 2: the time of the show and I must hear it.

1009
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 2: The Power Rankings, Richard Sherman, the Power rankings for week seventeen.

1010
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 2: Do we have any movement? Are the Kansas City Chiefs

1011
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 2: still at the top? Did the Lions still retain the

1012
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 2: two seed? Where does Minnesota fall? Who gets the five seed?

1013
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 2: I got so many questions? What are your answers?

1014
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: Ken City chief starts off? Ken City Chiefs are fifteen

1015
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,879
Speaker 1: and one. They retain the top spot. And I think

1016
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: this will be our final Power rankings because I won't

1017
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: move after this week. I you know, half teams aren't

1018
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: even playing their starters. I'm gonna leave it like this.

1019
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: Honolulu Blue Boys, Detroit Lions. Number three, Minnesota Vikings. They're

1020
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:07,439
Speaker 1: playing too well to put them anywhere else. Number four,

1021
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. You get the credit, you want the credit,

1022
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: you get it there it is four. I know you

1023
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: want to be three, but yes, what they have better

1024
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: record than you. Five the surging Baltimore Ravens. They got

1025
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: to be there. I know, I know the Philadelphia Eagles

1026
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: fans want me to put them there. Do. I want

1027
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: to put Philadelphia over Baltimore. They are dead last week,

1028
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 1: rich they are last week. So I just they beat

1029
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,359
Speaker 1: they beat them bad. I'll give it. I'll give it

1030
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: to Philadelphia. I'll give it to them. I just did

1031
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 1: not like that Washington Commanders game. I did not like it.

1032
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:45,360
Speaker 1: And the more I think about it, the more I

1033
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: don't like it. But I'll give it to them. The

1034
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles are five in my list. I mean, they

1035
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: could have gone higher, but just steal a lot of questions.

1036
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: And I know Philly fans will be mad, but I

1037
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: don't care, Richard.

1038
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 2: Before we rite it's we're on the brink of New

1039
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 2: Year's Eve. It's about to be New Year's Everyone's got

1040
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: their New Year's resolutions. I've seen you already running. You're

1041
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: doing your running club every day. But you got to

1042
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: get me motivated here, rich What are your New Year's resolutions?

1043
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: Hmm oh, that's a great question, Mitchell. Mitchell. New Year's

1044
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: resolutions are always weird for me because it's like, why

1045
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: weren't you doing it already? You know what was stopping

1046
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: you from doing it? On the random Tuesday and saying

1047
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: I need to get better now and I think that's

1048
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: what my New Year's resolution is. To just be consistent,

1049
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 1: you know, be a great dad, be a great father,

1050
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, work hard, you know, take care of yourself,

1051
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: and be intentional every day. Be intentional about it every day,

1052
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: not just January fourth. It could be June seventh. I

1053
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: still should be being intentional about it. Now is as

1054
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,080
Speaker 1: good a time as any, and it doesn't have to

1055
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: just be January first. If you get to February and

1056
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: you have an accomplished your goal, guess what, no time

1057
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: like the president to get out there and get it

1058
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,800
Speaker 1: going and improve yourself, or go after your dreams, or

1059
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: go on that vacation you always dream that going on,

1060
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: or just keep being your amazing self. Because everybody has

1061
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: a uniqueness that needs to be celebrated. The good old

1062
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: Good Lord gave everybody really cool special qualities that I

1063
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 1: don't think everybody appreciates or really celebrates. So celebrate our differences,

1064
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: celebrate our uniqueness, and you go out there and have

1065
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: yourselves a happy New Year's We appreciate you for joining us,

1066
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: whether it's a minute, an hour, or a second, you

1067
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 1: guys are appreciated. Hit that sub button if you're new, happy, new,

1068
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