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Speaker 1: School of Humans. All right, everyone, welcome to another episode

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Speaker 1: of Cadaver Gals. This is a show where we talk

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Speaker 1: about all the ways you could die to cope with

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Speaker 1: our own mortality. Look at us, we're all mentally fit

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Speaker 1: now because we've been doing the show. I'm your host, Gabby,

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Speaker 1: along with Taylor Hello, also known as Taylor, and also

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Speaker 1: Nika Hi. So we're gonna hear the story about how

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Speaker 1: nine hikers mysteriously died in Russia. You might have seen

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Speaker 1: some flashy reporting on it recently. And also we're going

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Speaker 1: to Nika is going to tell us about a man

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Speaker 1: and it got really messed up. So we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: some fun, right, guys, It's gonna be na so fun. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Some trigger warnings for today are corpse's decomposition, burning things,

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Speaker 1: getting lost, mystery mystery. Mystery could be very triggering. Some

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Speaker 1: people want concrete answers, mini closure, also h scary supernatural monsters,

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Speaker 1: question mark. So those aren't really trigger warnings. Sound very triggering,

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Speaker 1: but okay, Hey, that's the thing about triggers, You don't

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Speaker 1: they are so specific to people. Okay, I can't. That's true.

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Speaker 1: That's true. Also, as always three women talking, there is

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Speaker 1: a trigger. That's always a trigger. Someone out there's very

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Speaker 1: triggered right now. Alright, Q alligator music. So here we

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Speaker 1: are the Cadaver Gang, ready to talk about some mysteries.

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Speaker 1: This is where the mystery trigger warning comes in, so

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Speaker 1: right into it. We're jumping right into the mystery. All right, Taylor,

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Speaker 1: take it away. Okay, We're going to hop into our

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Speaker 1: imagination airplane. Imagination airplane, yeah, okay, because we can't get

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Speaker 1: in a real airplane right now. We're going to Russia

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Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty nine, or I guess the Soviet Union

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Speaker 1: as it was at the time, and specifically the Ural

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Speaker 1: Mountain Range. It's about sixteen hundred miles long, ninety three

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Speaker 1: that a lot big? I don't know, well, because I

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Speaker 1: Could it be millions of miles? I know that was

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Speaker 1: a little bit dramatic, but it was a lot. No,

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Speaker 1: morning everyone. That was great, Gabby Listener, Just so you know,

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Speaker 1: we're recording earlier for scheduling purposes, and I am half

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Speaker 1: dead and Gabby clearly has very smart journalistic questions and ideas.

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Speaker 1: I always do. This will be unique. You're you're getting

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Speaker 1: a whole different version of us. Okay. Oh yeah. So

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Speaker 1: obviously the adventurous types they like to go skiing, hiking,

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Speaker 1: and that's what these nine college students did in January

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Speaker 1: I know. That's what I'm saying. The adventurous type. So

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Speaker 1: you're not adventurous then, and neither am I, which is fine,

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Speaker 1: is it? Yeah? Okay? Great? Everyone on Tinder are like,

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Speaker 1: I'm adventurous, but are you? Would you go to that

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Speaker 1: you don't like adventure, you're boring anyway, Okay, I like

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Speaker 1: like fighting off COVID by going to a brewery on

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Speaker 1: the Soviet Union nineteen fifty nine. All of these people

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Speaker 1: So this led to all kinds of rumors and conspiracies,

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Speaker 1: oh well, this is too weird. It must have been whatever.

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Speaker 1: an interesting point that you bring up, Ka, But I'm feeling,

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00:25:38,325 --> 00:25:41,325
Speaker 1: you know, the yetis maybe they had to maintain harmony,

421
00:25:41,445 --> 00:25:43,005
Speaker 1: and maybe that's why they had to get rid of

422
00:25:43,045 --> 00:25:45,165
Speaker 1: these hikers. But I also do not see them as

423
00:25:45,205 --> 00:25:48,645
Speaker 1: like aggressive, so YETI I think I just prove the

424
00:25:48,725 --> 00:25:51,925
Speaker 1: YETI theory. So you're welcome you, yeah, because they have

425
00:25:51,925 --> 00:25:55,125
Speaker 1: a different disposition. You know, they're not these evil monsters

426
00:25:55,125 --> 00:25:57,045
Speaker 1: trying to rip out people's tongues. They wouldn't do that

427
00:25:57,125 --> 00:26:00,725
Speaker 1: kind of shit. They would not. I love with the YETI. Yeah,

428
00:26:00,725 --> 00:26:05,365
Speaker 1: I'll just say it. I'm in love with the YETI. Okay, Nick,

429
00:26:05,485 --> 00:26:09,045
Speaker 1: And now that we've established your attraction to the Jetty,

430
00:26:09,445 --> 00:26:12,925
Speaker 1: it is time for you to tell us a new story.

431
00:26:14,085 --> 00:26:17,685
Speaker 1: I think that this story actually does have a conclusion.

432
00:26:17,885 --> 00:26:23,205
Speaker 1: Oh I know, I know. I'm bringing you guys the goods. Okay, Well,

433
00:26:23,285 --> 00:26:27,805
Speaker 1: let me do another trigger warning, trigger warning drawing conclusions. Okay,

434
00:26:28,405 --> 00:26:33,925
Speaker 1: let's go for it. This is a story for romantics

435
00:26:34,125 --> 00:26:37,525
Speaker 1: and also for people that are deranged. You know, I

436
00:26:37,685 --> 00:26:40,965
Speaker 1: speak you all, I hear you all, and I present

437
00:26:41,045 --> 00:26:45,085
Speaker 1: to you this love sick or just sick man known

438
00:26:45,165 --> 00:26:50,285
Speaker 1: as Carl Tansler. This is a really intense story. Buckle up,

439
00:26:50,365 --> 00:26:53,485
Speaker 1: put your little seatbelts on, Strap on with your strap bonds.

440
00:26:53,525 --> 00:26:57,125
Speaker 1: Let's get it. Okay, it's nineteen thirties and Carl is

441
00:26:57,165 --> 00:27:01,005
Speaker 1: this German born radiologist who immigrated to Florida after World

442
00:27:01,005 --> 00:27:03,565
Speaker 1: War One. He spent some time in Australia, then he

443
00:27:03,645 --> 00:27:08,005
Speaker 1: moved to Holland, I believe, and then he moved to

444
00:27:08,085 --> 00:27:11,245
Speaker 1: Florida because his sister was there. So he's in Florida

445
00:27:11,285 --> 00:27:13,885
Speaker 1: with his wife and his two daughters and they settle

446
00:27:13,925 --> 00:27:18,085
Speaker 1: into American culture. Okay, now, let me just say this.

447
00:27:18,085 --> 00:27:21,725
Speaker 1: This man left his family and moved to Key West

448
00:27:21,765 --> 00:27:24,245
Speaker 1: to work in a marine hospital as an X ray technician,

449
00:27:24,525 --> 00:27:28,125
Speaker 1: like maybe two years into living in Florida. So y'all

450
00:27:28,125 --> 00:27:31,845
Speaker 1: know how I feel about men who leave their families.

451
00:27:32,125 --> 00:27:35,325
Speaker 1: Like for me, this man's already canceled, but he's going

452
00:27:35,365 --> 00:27:38,085
Speaker 1: to get more canceled. He's going to get more canceled.

453
00:27:38,405 --> 00:27:42,005
Speaker 1: That's terrific. Yeah. So he's in Key West, living his

454
00:27:42,085 --> 00:27:45,165
Speaker 1: single life whatever. He's fifty at this point, and he

455
00:27:45,205 --> 00:27:50,285
Speaker 1: meets this twenty two year old woman, Maria Elena Milagro Ojos,

456
00:27:50,405 --> 00:27:53,565
Speaker 1: and her mother brought her in because Maria was dying

457
00:27:53,605 --> 00:27:59,245
Speaker 1: of tuberculosis bad. Now, back then, tuberculosis was like kind

458
00:27:59,285 --> 00:28:01,325
Speaker 1: of a death sentence, and so he was freaking out

459
00:28:01,365 --> 00:28:06,805
Speaker 1: because apparently over Carl's life, he claimed that he would

460
00:28:06,805 --> 00:28:10,885
Speaker 1: see the ghost of a stunning, dark haired woman and

461
00:28:10,965 --> 00:28:13,805
Speaker 1: he felt like that stunning woman was going to be

462
00:28:13,845 --> 00:28:15,805
Speaker 1: the love of his life. Now, first of all, can

463
00:28:15,885 --> 00:28:18,045
Speaker 1: imagine being married to this guy and he starts telling

464
00:28:18,045 --> 00:28:21,045
Speaker 1: the story about the ghost that visits him. What the fuck? Like,

465
00:28:21,205 --> 00:28:23,205
Speaker 1: I would not be okay with that, but okay, go

466
00:28:23,325 --> 00:28:26,045
Speaker 1: marry her. Then that would be Yeah, that'd be so rude,

467
00:28:26,045 --> 00:28:27,765
Speaker 1: being like, hey, I know I'm married to you, but

468
00:28:27,805 --> 00:28:32,045
Speaker 1: the love of my life is this ghost? So exadly exactly,

469
00:28:32,125 --> 00:28:36,645
Speaker 1: So he believes this and then in walks media dying

470
00:28:36,925 --> 00:28:39,645
Speaker 1: and she needs his help. So of course he wants

471
00:28:39,645 --> 00:28:42,245
Speaker 1: to help her. So he gets to work. He's convinced

472
00:28:42,285 --> 00:28:44,805
Speaker 1: that she is it for him, and he starts taking

473
00:28:44,805 --> 00:28:48,285
Speaker 1: care of her and her family's home, and he showers

474
00:28:48,285 --> 00:28:51,045
Speaker 1: her with gifts. He tells her that he loves her.

475
00:28:51,085 --> 00:28:53,045
Speaker 1: He tells her family that he loves her, like the

476
00:28:53,125 --> 00:28:55,765
Speaker 1: whole thing, and it's recorded that she did not feel

477
00:28:55,765 --> 00:28:59,205
Speaker 1: the same way. But like, also, she was dying and

478
00:28:59,285 --> 00:29:01,565
Speaker 1: he seemed to be her only chance, so she wasn't

479
00:29:01,605 --> 00:29:04,685
Speaker 1: like fuck off. You know. He literally tries everything to

480
00:29:04,685 --> 00:29:07,925
Speaker 1: save her. I say everything, but like, did he ever

481
00:29:07,965 --> 00:29:09,885
Speaker 1: take her to qualify doctor because he was just an

482
00:29:09,925 --> 00:29:13,565
Speaker 1: X ray technician? Yeah. Anyway, he gave her medicine and

483
00:29:13,605 --> 00:29:17,085
Speaker 1: elixirs and tonics and tried everything that he knew to do,

484
00:29:17,445 --> 00:29:20,445
Speaker 1: but nothing worked. And then in October of nineteen thirty one,

485
00:29:21,045 --> 00:29:26,325
Speaker 1: she passed away. Yeah, so he pays for her funeral.

486
00:29:26,645 --> 00:29:30,285
Speaker 1: He gets her expensive mausoleum that only he has the

487
00:29:30,365 --> 00:29:33,925
Speaker 1: key to. His family is like this is kind of weird,

488
00:29:33,965 --> 00:29:36,725
Speaker 1: but also like, funerals are expensive, so yes, he can

489
00:29:36,765 --> 00:29:39,205
Speaker 1: pay for it, and he loved her, you know, Okay,

490
00:29:39,525 --> 00:29:41,645
Speaker 1: this is love, This is what love. This is a

491
00:29:41,645 --> 00:29:45,725
Speaker 1: healthy relationship. Yes, So he hires a mortician to prepare

492
00:29:45,765 --> 00:29:49,965
Speaker 1: her body, and he is heartbroken. Harl ends up visiting

493
00:29:50,165 --> 00:29:54,365
Speaker 1: Maria Elena for two years straight, every single night, and

494
00:29:54,405 --> 00:29:57,885
Speaker 1: he would like sing Spanish love songs to her. He

495
00:29:58,005 --> 00:30:02,365
Speaker 1: was super dedicated. And the tomb that he bought. I

496
00:30:02,365 --> 00:30:04,125
Speaker 1: saw a picture of it, and it's insane. It's like

497
00:30:04,485 --> 00:30:07,685
Speaker 1: big and bright white and has fresh flowers always and

498
00:30:08,325 --> 00:30:09,925
Speaker 1: her name is like at the front. It was just

499
00:30:10,045 --> 00:30:13,525
Speaker 1: very intentional, very beautiful. Like clearly he cared a lot

500
00:30:13,565 --> 00:30:17,325
Speaker 1: about her for what reason, I don't know, but he did.

501
00:30:17,445 --> 00:30:19,285
Speaker 1: You know. It's like, I guess it's a thing where

502
00:30:19,285 --> 00:30:22,165
Speaker 1: you meet someone and you just become obsessed with them

503
00:30:22,205 --> 00:30:24,525
Speaker 1: and it's like infatuation. And he just thought she was

504
00:30:24,565 --> 00:30:27,285
Speaker 1: the ghost, you know, the like pre ghost. It's just

505
00:30:27,325 --> 00:30:29,525
Speaker 1: weird that there was a pre ghost before she was

506
00:30:29,605 --> 00:30:33,325
Speaker 1: dad that visited him. Absolutely, that is kind of strange.

507
00:30:33,365 --> 00:30:36,805
Speaker 1: But that's that could be like him seeing into the future, right, well,

508
00:30:36,845 --> 00:30:38,525
Speaker 1: I think that's what he believed. He was like, I've

509
00:30:38,565 --> 00:30:40,445
Speaker 1: seen those ghosts for so long, and then this woman

510
00:30:40,885 --> 00:30:43,165
Speaker 1: comes into my life clearly, she's the love of my life,

511
00:30:43,165 --> 00:30:45,365
Speaker 1: and then she dies. It's like I've seen you, dad,

512
00:30:46,285 --> 00:30:50,205
Speaker 1: this is the one great m Well, not for long

513
00:30:50,325 --> 00:30:53,925
Speaker 1: she dies because things get a little weird and he

514
00:30:54,165 --> 00:30:57,285
Speaker 1: abruptly gets fired from his job two years after Maria

515
00:30:57,365 --> 00:31:01,485
Speaker 1: Ninez passing, and he stops visiting the grave, which her

516
00:31:01,525 --> 00:31:04,125
Speaker 1: family found kind of weird because he loved he was

517
00:31:04,165 --> 00:31:06,845
Speaker 1: so I know, he was so intense about visiting her

518
00:31:06,885 --> 00:31:14,205
Speaker 1: every night. Well, it turns out was so bad. It

519
00:31:14,205 --> 00:31:16,605
Speaker 1: turns out he had taken her body from the grave

520
00:31:16,725 --> 00:31:23,645
Speaker 1: site and moved it into his apartment. Oh what are

521
00:31:23,685 --> 00:31:27,525
Speaker 1: you doing? What are you doing, Carl? So he had

522
00:31:27,565 --> 00:31:30,525
Speaker 1: an abandoned airplane hangar that he converted into like a

523
00:31:30,805 --> 00:31:35,125
Speaker 1: medical facility. I put little quotation marks because okay and

524
00:31:37,045 --> 00:31:40,565
Speaker 1: oh yeah. And he spent a couple of weeks maintaining

525
00:31:40,765 --> 00:31:43,605
Speaker 1: the corpse because it had been obviously in a tomb

526
00:31:43,605 --> 00:31:46,805
Speaker 1: for two years. He basically did a bunch of DIY

527
00:31:46,845 --> 00:31:49,485
Speaker 1: tricks to preserve the body as much as possible. So

528
00:31:49,525 --> 00:31:52,885
Speaker 1: like he put glass eyes into her eyes sockets, Like

529
00:31:53,085 --> 00:31:56,405
Speaker 1: he replaced a lot of the decomposed skin with silk

530
00:31:56,525 --> 00:32:01,285
Speaker 1: coated in wax and plaster. He also just coated the

531
00:32:01,325 --> 00:32:04,325
Speaker 1: body in perfumes and oils because the smell of death

532
00:32:04,365 --> 00:32:06,405
Speaker 1: and decay was so strong. And he would do this

533
00:32:06,485 --> 00:32:11,445
Speaker 1: for d like always, just strong perfume, strong fresh flowers,

534
00:32:11,725 --> 00:32:13,085
Speaker 1: all of that sort of stuff because the smell was

535
00:32:13,085 --> 00:32:15,885
Speaker 1: so bad. Her hair had fallen out, and so he

536
00:32:15,965 --> 00:32:20,165
Speaker 1: ended up making a wig from her past haircuts, like haircloth.

537
00:32:20,485 --> 00:32:22,725
Speaker 1: I guess her mom had kept and gave to him.

538
00:32:23,205 --> 00:32:26,205
Speaker 1: Mother why you know, Like that's kind of sketchy that

539
00:32:26,245 --> 00:32:28,485
Speaker 1: he wants that, but okay, and so he made that

540
00:32:28,525 --> 00:32:31,365
Speaker 1: little wig. She had a short, short haircut wig, you know,

541
00:32:31,485 --> 00:32:35,725
Speaker 1: short queen. He used coat hangers and wires to make

542
00:32:35,765 --> 00:32:38,805
Speaker 1: sure that she could stand upright, and then stucked her

543
00:32:38,845 --> 00:32:42,565
Speaker 1: abdomen with rags to keep her physical like composure. Like

544
00:32:42,605 --> 00:32:49,165
Speaker 1: her body. This man not at all. Ye listen, there

545
00:32:49,245 --> 00:32:56,805
Speaker 1: was even a tube inside her vagina. Oh yeah, yeah, sad,

546
00:32:57,405 --> 00:33:03,245
Speaker 1: it's bad. He never admitted to nickrophilia, like why would

547
00:33:03,245 --> 00:33:06,005
Speaker 1: it be there? Why why would it be wiser or

548
00:33:06,005 --> 00:33:09,125
Speaker 1: two there? Yeah, I know, I'm gonna yeah my notes,

549
00:33:09,245 --> 00:33:13,805
Speaker 1: my outline notes literally throws up because I'm disgusted. Okay,

550
00:33:14,125 --> 00:33:18,965
Speaker 1: I'm disgusted. Yeah. So um. While he was working on

551
00:33:19,005 --> 00:33:22,365
Speaker 1: her body, he also made a million volt Tesla coil,

552
00:33:22,885 --> 00:33:26,525
Speaker 1: which is like a lot of energy, and basically his

553
00:33:26,645 --> 00:33:29,845
Speaker 1: idea was that he wanted to use it to electrocute

554
00:33:29,845 --> 00:33:33,285
Speaker 1: her into being revived, and he tried, y'all bless him.

555
00:33:33,285 --> 00:33:35,525
Speaker 1: He tried. There's an insane as pick of him next

556
00:33:35,525 --> 00:33:37,885
Speaker 1: to the Tesla coil that he made that will also

557
00:33:38,005 --> 00:33:40,325
Speaker 1: post Like man, our instagram is just full of like

558
00:33:40,445 --> 00:33:46,485
Speaker 1: insane insane people, but also just like a Frankenstein situation. Yeah,

559
00:33:46,485 --> 00:33:49,325
Speaker 1: he knows that's not possible. What is wrong with him?

560
00:33:49,485 --> 00:33:52,605
Speaker 1: I don't think he knows that, Taylor. That's the thing, like,

561
00:33:53,245 --> 00:33:55,285
Speaker 1: you know, science just wasn't where it was like in

562
00:33:55,325 --> 00:34:00,005
Speaker 1: the thirties. I don't know if it was. Don't have

563
00:34:00,045 --> 00:34:02,485
Speaker 1: any of her organs. And he's like, I'm still gonna

564
00:34:02,805 --> 00:34:07,245
Speaker 1: she did not that is true. They were rags. Well listen,

565
00:34:07,605 --> 00:34:09,965
Speaker 1: and it gets a little bit more bananas. So good.

566
00:34:10,125 --> 00:34:13,325
Speaker 1: He takes her, you know, a body which at this

567
00:34:13,365 --> 00:34:16,285
Speaker 1: point looks more like a doll than a person, which,

568
00:34:16,405 --> 00:34:20,605
Speaker 1: by the way, he also like painted on eyebrows like

569
00:34:21,285 --> 00:34:25,205
Speaker 1: on her silk wax, you know, face, and the eyebrows

570
00:34:25,205 --> 00:34:27,885
Speaker 1: were so thin, like that's not cute, Like, y'all need

571
00:34:27,925 --> 00:34:29,925
Speaker 1: to make sure that your eyebrows are well filled in

572
00:34:30,005 --> 00:34:32,445
Speaker 1: if you can. Don't know how to do eyebrows. Men

573
00:34:32,605 --> 00:34:35,845
Speaker 1: don't know how to do eyebrows, Not even this doctor okay.

574
00:34:36,285 --> 00:34:41,525
Speaker 1: So he takes the body it okay, all right, and

575
00:34:41,605 --> 00:34:44,205
Speaker 1: he takes it to his apartment and he perfumes it

576
00:34:44,245 --> 00:34:46,165
Speaker 1: all the time, like I said, And he lived as

577
00:34:46,205 --> 00:34:48,765
Speaker 1: if she was alive. He would sleep next to her,

578
00:34:49,125 --> 00:34:51,045
Speaker 1: he would dance with her, he would sink to her,

579
00:34:51,045 --> 00:34:56,165
Speaker 1: he'd buy her gifts constantly. Obviously it's never confirmed, but

580
00:34:56,525 --> 00:34:59,485
Speaker 1: why is the tube there? And he lived in a

581
00:34:59,605 --> 00:35:03,405
Speaker 1: small town at the time, so people started talking like, oh,

582
00:35:03,525 --> 00:35:05,805
Speaker 1: Carols in a good mood. Who's making girls so happy?

583
00:35:05,845 --> 00:35:08,445
Speaker 1: You know this? A little weird scientist man, who's he

584
00:35:08,485 --> 00:35:11,285
Speaker 1: buying gifts for? Like this is so strange. And obviously

585
00:35:11,365 --> 00:35:13,885
Speaker 1: Marian's family were kind of weirded out because they had

586
00:35:13,925 --> 00:35:16,005
Speaker 1: been really close to him. And then suddenly he stops

587
00:35:16,085 --> 00:35:18,685
Speaker 1: visiting the grave, doesn't really talk to them anymore, like,

588
00:35:18,885 --> 00:35:22,205
Speaker 1: is just very detached, and suddenly meets this new woman

589
00:35:22,405 --> 00:35:26,325
Speaker 1: who's a new woman they want to know. Well, okay,

590
00:35:26,805 --> 00:35:30,605
Speaker 1: also a little boy not new, yep, she's just new

591
00:35:30,645 --> 00:35:35,845
Speaker 1: and improved. They handled the flame, you know. Mm. Also,

592
00:35:36,085 --> 00:35:39,725
Speaker 1: this is terrible. A little boy reported seeing him dancing

593
00:35:39,765 --> 00:35:43,205
Speaker 1: with what seemed to look like a doll. Yeah, that's

594
00:35:43,245 --> 00:35:47,725
Speaker 1: traumatizing to watch Okay, So he was living, you know,

595
00:35:47,965 --> 00:35:51,125
Speaker 1: what he felt was his best life. And then one

596
00:35:51,205 --> 00:35:54,525
Speaker 1: day Mariana's sister was like, I need to go meet

597
00:35:54,565 --> 00:35:57,005
Speaker 1: this woman because what is going on. She walks into

598
00:35:57,045 --> 00:36:00,165
Speaker 1: his apartment and of course there's someone that vaguely looks

599
00:36:00,205 --> 00:36:05,325
Speaker 1: like her sister, and sure enough it's her sister. She

600
00:36:05,565 --> 00:36:08,685
Speaker 1: realizes that, so she alerts the authorities, takes marian and

601
00:36:08,725 --> 00:36:12,685
Speaker 1: his body away. They are Russ Carl. The trial obviously

602
00:36:12,725 --> 00:36:16,485
Speaker 1: becomes a massive scandal. He's on trial for grave robbing

603
00:36:16,565 --> 00:36:20,845
Speaker 1: and mummification and I guess nothing else. What's the charge

604
00:36:20,845 --> 00:36:26,525
Speaker 1: for having a bad personality? Yeah, but like, I didn't

605
00:36:26,565 --> 00:36:28,565
Speaker 1: know that you could have like a key to a

606
00:36:28,645 --> 00:36:31,725
Speaker 1: mausoleum that gives you direct access to a body. I

607
00:36:31,765 --> 00:36:34,085
Speaker 1: didn't know that was a thing. I think he put

608
00:36:34,085 --> 00:36:36,885
Speaker 1: a lot of money into the mausoleum and into like

609
00:36:36,925 --> 00:36:38,925
Speaker 1: the whole keeping, and they would just like give the

610
00:36:39,045 --> 00:36:43,085
Speaker 1: rich man things. Yeah, he said so during this trial,

611
00:36:43,445 --> 00:36:46,845
Speaker 1: he basically said that the more that he visited Maria Lena,

612
00:36:46,925 --> 00:36:50,125
Speaker 1: the more he felt her spirit tell him take me away,

613
00:36:50,445 --> 00:36:52,245
Speaker 1: like I'm stuck here. I don't want to be here.

614
00:36:52,685 --> 00:36:55,885
Speaker 1: I want to be with you. Whatever, and so he

615
00:36:56,005 --> 00:36:58,925
Speaker 1: was like, okay, and he did it. He also said

616
00:36:58,965 --> 00:37:02,845
Speaker 1: that he wanted to blast her into the stratosphere because

617
00:37:02,885 --> 00:37:07,565
Speaker 1: he felt like the electrical energy for space would revive

618
00:37:07,685 --> 00:37:12,365
Speaker 1: her solar neurons. Is he like looking for Like okay,

619
00:37:12,445 --> 00:37:14,765
Speaker 1: so he saw this ghost in his dreams or whatever

620
00:37:14,845 --> 00:37:17,725
Speaker 1: and he loved her blah blah blah. But like, so

621
00:37:18,165 --> 00:37:20,365
Speaker 1: was he like trying to revive her spirit or was

622
00:37:20,405 --> 00:37:22,725
Speaker 1: her did he say like her spirit was still there?

623
00:37:22,845 --> 00:37:24,765
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? No, he said her

624
00:37:24,805 --> 00:37:27,645
Speaker 1: spirit was still there. He wanted to revive her physical body,

625
00:37:27,765 --> 00:37:32,645
Speaker 1: physical body, yes, And this is so bananas to me,

626
00:37:32,725 --> 00:37:35,165
Speaker 1: but you know what, people romanticize serial killers all the time.

627
00:37:35,485 --> 00:37:38,165
Speaker 1: Everyone was like, oh my gosh, she's so banana's romantic

628
00:37:38,205 --> 00:37:43,405
Speaker 1: and sweet like this strange eccent drink guy like loved

629
00:37:43,445 --> 00:37:46,325
Speaker 1: her so much. Well, and this man, y'all he was

630
00:37:46,405 --> 00:37:53,845
Speaker 1: cleared of all charges what Yes, because of the statute

631
00:37:54,085 --> 00:37:57,445
Speaker 1: of limitation. So fun, so fun. He had lived with

632
00:37:57,525 --> 00:38:00,845
Speaker 1: Maria Lena's body for seven years and apparently that's enough

633
00:38:00,885 --> 00:38:03,645
Speaker 1: time to not be guilty of grave robbing or a mummification.

634
00:38:04,045 --> 00:38:09,005
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love that, but like love that. Yeah,

635
00:38:09,045 --> 00:38:13,765
Speaker 1: And obviously. So we're in the thirties. He free and

636
00:38:13,805 --> 00:38:17,445
Speaker 1: clear and you know, goes away, lives his life, and

637
00:38:17,485 --> 00:38:20,885
Speaker 1: then they end up putting Marie Leno's body on public

638
00:38:20,925 --> 00:38:23,485
Speaker 1: display because that's what you do with mummies, I guess,

639
00:38:23,805 --> 00:38:27,405
Speaker 1: before finally burying her in an unmarked grave so he

640
00:38:27,445 --> 00:38:31,885
Speaker 1: would not find her again. That's sad. That is very sad.

641
00:38:32,005 --> 00:38:35,325
Speaker 1: You have to like hide, to hide a body from somebody,

642
00:38:35,445 --> 00:38:37,965
Speaker 1: because like he was so obsessed with her. I don't

643
00:38:38,005 --> 00:38:40,965
Speaker 1: like that at all, which is like so gross because

644
00:38:41,365 --> 00:38:43,565
Speaker 1: literally he met her once and then was like, Okay,

645
00:38:43,565 --> 00:38:46,965
Speaker 1: she's the one, and I'm just like, dude, what no

646
00:38:47,405 --> 00:38:52,045
Speaker 1: date a little bit, you know, get to know her. Yeah,

647
00:38:52,085 --> 00:38:54,645
Speaker 1: she has tuberculosis, but you know, there's probably a lot

648
00:38:54,685 --> 00:38:57,965
Speaker 1: of other conversations you could have been happen. So that's

649
00:38:58,005 --> 00:39:00,325
Speaker 1: the conclusion. That's the story. I hate that, you know,

650
00:39:00,365 --> 00:39:02,525
Speaker 1: he got away with it, but if it makes y'all

651
00:39:02,525 --> 00:39:04,805
Speaker 1: feel better, he died alone and was found three weeks

652
00:39:04,845 --> 00:39:07,445
Speaker 1: after he died in his home, So yeah, that makes

653
00:39:07,445 --> 00:39:11,325
Speaker 1: me feel better. I feel so good now, Nika, thank

654
00:39:11,365 --> 00:39:18,405
Speaker 1: you for sharing that nightmare, and I am excited to

655
00:39:18,525 --> 00:39:22,805
Speaker 1: have bad dreams tonight. So thank you, and guys, we're

656
00:39:22,805 --> 00:39:25,965
Speaker 1: gonna be right back and we're gonna talk a little

657
00:39:25,965 --> 00:39:29,645
Speaker 1: bit about, you know, the different types of effigies you

658
00:39:29,725 --> 00:39:33,405
Speaker 1: can make, you know, so let's make our own. Okay,

659
00:39:33,405 --> 00:39:38,245
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. Okay, guys, welcome to the last

660
00:39:38,245 --> 00:39:42,685
Speaker 1: section of Cadaver Gals today. And Nika was talking about

661
00:39:42,925 --> 00:39:46,645
Speaker 1: a terrible thing that happened something we like to do

662
00:39:46,685 --> 00:39:52,845
Speaker 1: on this show, and Carl made Maria Lena into an

663
00:39:52,885 --> 00:39:55,845
Speaker 1: effigy basically, So we were thinking about, you know, what

664
00:39:56,045 --> 00:39:58,685
Speaker 1: is an effigy? Could we make our own, like, what

665
00:39:58,765 --> 00:40:02,765
Speaker 1: would be the best fit for our own effigies? And

666
00:40:03,125 --> 00:40:05,405
Speaker 1: because I think Nika's expressed in the past that you know,

667
00:40:05,805 --> 00:40:08,605
Speaker 1: she would love to have a sculpture of herself, you know,

668
00:40:08,685 --> 00:40:11,725
Speaker 1: after she dies, So let's figure out what might be

669
00:40:11,725 --> 00:40:15,085
Speaker 1: a good fit for us. Okay, I didn't know what

670
00:40:15,125 --> 00:40:17,445
Speaker 1: an effigy was before you started talking about it. Can

671
00:40:17,485 --> 00:40:20,765
Speaker 1: you tell us what an effigy is? Basically, it is

672
00:40:20,805 --> 00:40:25,925
Speaker 1: just any sort of model or structure of somebody, like

673
00:40:26,245 --> 00:40:27,965
Speaker 1: so it's very vague. They don't have to be dead

674
00:40:28,045 --> 00:40:33,165
Speaker 1: or alive, but just like a structure of a person basically. Yeah,

675
00:40:33,205 --> 00:40:37,365
Speaker 1: but like a DIY version, not like a well, some

676
00:40:37,485 --> 00:40:40,405
Speaker 1: are not that d y. There's sometimes a lot of

677
00:40:40,405 --> 00:40:43,645
Speaker 1: work goes into these effigies. It just really depends on

678
00:40:43,685 --> 00:40:45,285
Speaker 1: what you want. And so it's sort of like the

679
00:40:45,325 --> 00:40:48,285
Speaker 1: most common effigy I would say is the political effigy,

680
00:40:48,725 --> 00:40:50,445
Speaker 1: because you know, you need to set your intention with

681
00:40:50,445 --> 00:40:53,445
Speaker 1: your effigies, so we're doing the political stance. And political

682
00:40:53,525 --> 00:40:57,085
Speaker 1: effigies could date back to thirteen twenty eight when some

683
00:40:57,205 --> 00:41:01,005
Speaker 1: troops of the Holy Roman Emperor at the time burned

684
00:41:01,005 --> 00:41:04,525
Speaker 1: a straw puppet that was supposed to represent the pope.

685
00:41:04,885 --> 00:41:07,325
Speaker 1: So that was cool of them. That's like, you know,

686
00:41:07,365 --> 00:41:09,325
Speaker 1: the first sort of burning of an effigy that we

687
00:41:09,365 --> 00:41:13,645
Speaker 1: have written down. And this practice of burning political people

688
00:41:14,045 --> 00:41:17,565
Speaker 1: is still done throughout the world, from like India to

689
00:41:17,605 --> 00:41:20,885
Speaker 1: the Philippines to the US to Afghanistan. There's all sorts

690
00:41:20,885 --> 00:41:24,125
Speaker 1: of people who be burning political effigies and it's you know,

691
00:41:24,125 --> 00:41:26,645
Speaker 1: it's a statement. It's like a literal roast of somebody,

692
00:41:26,765 --> 00:41:29,685
Speaker 1: you know, just being like, hey, you you fucked up,

693
00:41:29,685 --> 00:41:32,005
Speaker 1: We don't like you. Yeah, we're not going to burn

694
00:41:32,045 --> 00:41:34,245
Speaker 1: you for real, that would be crazy. So we're just

695
00:41:34,245 --> 00:41:38,245
Speaker 1: gonna burn a likeness of you and you can build

696
00:41:38,285 --> 00:41:42,925
Speaker 1: this effigy out of wood, straw, wax, lots of other

697
00:41:42,965 --> 00:41:47,885
Speaker 1: different materials. American presidents are a widely popular effigy to

698
00:41:47,925 --> 00:41:51,445
Speaker 1: burn around the world, from Bush to Trump to Obama.

699
00:41:51,525 --> 00:41:54,885
Speaker 1: We are hated around the world for a variety of reasons.

700
00:41:55,565 --> 00:41:59,885
Speaker 1: If you like google Afghanistan George Bush effigy burning, you

701
00:41:59,925 --> 00:42:03,965
Speaker 1: get a beautiful gallery of photos of different George Bush effigies.

702
00:42:04,165 --> 00:42:07,445
Speaker 1: I think now that you explained, we have those in Colombia.

703
00:42:07,565 --> 00:42:09,845
Speaker 1: We do them for New Year's Eve, but it's only

704
00:42:09,885 --> 00:42:13,365
Speaker 1: like in smaller towns. And I remember when I was younger,

705
00:42:13,645 --> 00:42:16,005
Speaker 1: driving past like a smaller town we were going to

706
00:42:16,125 --> 00:42:19,405
Speaker 1: like another city or whatever, and I saw these. They

707
00:42:19,405 --> 00:42:22,685
Speaker 1: looked like dolls, and they were outside of everyone's home,

708
00:42:22,765 --> 00:42:25,205
Speaker 1: like there was one doll per household. And what they

709
00:42:25,245 --> 00:42:27,285
Speaker 1: do is they fill it with fireworks and it represents

710
00:42:27,325 --> 00:42:29,765
Speaker 1: like the past year, and then at midnight they light

711
00:42:29,805 --> 00:42:33,485
Speaker 1: them on fire slash like you know, turn the fireworks on.

712
00:42:33,565 --> 00:42:35,885
Speaker 1: I don't know how fireworks work, and then they explode

713
00:42:35,885 --> 00:42:39,365
Speaker 1: into the air. Oh that's exciting, that's fun. I feel

714
00:42:39,365 --> 00:42:41,125
Speaker 1: like we should have done that for twenty twenty or

715
00:42:41,285 --> 00:42:43,685
Speaker 1: going into twenty have done that for twenty twenty, I'll

716
00:42:43,725 --> 00:42:47,165
Speaker 1: do I'll do it next year, I'll do it this year. Great, Yeah,

717
00:42:47,205 --> 00:42:50,085
Speaker 1: because that's another use of like beyond the political effigy,

718
00:42:50,125 --> 00:42:52,685
Speaker 1: there's also seasonal effigy, So there's lots of different people

719
00:42:52,725 --> 00:42:56,205
Speaker 1: around the world who yeah, they too. For the transition

720
00:42:56,245 --> 00:42:59,605
Speaker 1: between seasons or around any like particular holidays, there's usually

721
00:42:59,605 --> 00:43:03,125
Speaker 1: an effigy burning, you know, or a lighting on fire,

722
00:43:03,365 --> 00:43:07,125
Speaker 1: or even the effig you know, a pinata is an

723
00:43:07,125 --> 00:43:10,965
Speaker 1: effigy in many ways, so like, you know, there's a

724
00:43:10,965 --> 00:43:13,125
Speaker 1: lot of pinatas are used for you know, more of

725
00:43:13,205 --> 00:43:15,085
Speaker 1: like a political stance, so you can like, you know,

726
00:43:15,405 --> 00:43:18,045
Speaker 1: have your Donald Trump pinata and beat the shit out

727
00:43:18,045 --> 00:43:20,685
Speaker 1: of it or you know, whichever's or a piniata person

728
00:43:20,765 --> 00:43:23,565
Speaker 1: that you want. Also, if I'm fat, pinadas were originally

729
00:43:23,565 --> 00:43:26,685
Speaker 1: made out of clay bowls, which does sound more exciting

730
00:43:26,765 --> 00:43:30,245
Speaker 1: to break. Oh yeah, the sounds a little more dangerous though, right,

731
00:43:30,405 --> 00:43:34,325
Speaker 1: Yeah dangerous is Heck you need goggles? Yeah. Then I

732
00:43:34,365 --> 00:43:36,325
Speaker 1: was just thinking, Nika, if we made a pinata of you,

733
00:43:36,605 --> 00:43:39,565
Speaker 1: what do you think it should be filled with? You know, um,

734
00:43:39,605 --> 00:43:42,565
Speaker 1: like press on nails obviously. Yeah, that would be a

735
00:43:42,605 --> 00:43:44,725
Speaker 1: good choice, like the click clack on the on the

736
00:43:44,725 --> 00:43:47,285
Speaker 1: ground as they are read everywhere, and there are all

737
00:43:47,325 --> 00:43:50,685
Speaker 1: different colors, all different sizes. You've got almond shape, you've

738
00:43:50,725 --> 00:43:53,605
Speaker 1: got coffin shaped, you've got square shape, you've got oval shape.

739
00:43:53,645 --> 00:43:55,565
Speaker 1: That would be fun once you break it open and

740
00:43:55,605 --> 00:43:57,645
Speaker 1: then you like get it what you can and then

741
00:43:58,005 --> 00:44:03,965
Speaker 1: you would have just like this crazy combination of nails. Absolutely, yeah,

742
00:44:04,005 --> 00:44:08,925
Speaker 1: press on nails and like little vasiline jars. Nice a staple.

743
00:44:09,125 --> 00:44:16,725
Speaker 1: You're welcome everyone, Instagram, Instagram, the concept, Instagram, the concept,

744
00:44:16,805 --> 00:44:22,285
Speaker 1: just iPhone. Yeah, I think mine would just be filled

745
00:44:22,285 --> 00:44:24,845
Speaker 1: with like Lord of the Rings DVDs, you know, just

746
00:44:24,925 --> 00:44:32,125
Speaker 1: smash them open, you know, just a handful of DVDs, Taylor,

747
00:44:32,205 --> 00:44:38,245
Speaker 1: would yours just be Gus coming out of Yeah? I

748
00:44:38,245 --> 00:44:40,765
Speaker 1: don't think we should put gus in Aina though, because

749
00:44:40,805 --> 00:44:42,965
Speaker 1: you do remember how you have to open up a pinata?

750
00:44:43,045 --> 00:44:47,885
Speaker 1: That would be beat it. Yeah, So just a little

751
00:44:47,885 --> 00:44:54,445
Speaker 1: trigger warning, post trigger warning animal beating. Oh my gosh,

752
00:44:54,485 --> 00:44:57,245
Speaker 1: it's a post trigger warning. That's how it works. What

753
00:44:57,365 --> 00:44:59,525
Speaker 1: you just heard that was a trigger? Sorry about that.

754
00:45:00,325 --> 00:45:02,645
Speaker 1: I was so sorry. We just triggered you. My bad.

755
00:45:03,605 --> 00:45:05,685
Speaker 1: I don't know if Nika, you fall into this like

756
00:45:05,765 --> 00:45:10,605
Speaker 1: political effigy burning. But I did find a different type

757
00:45:10,605 --> 00:45:12,645
Speaker 1: of effigy that I think you might be more m

758
00:45:12,645 --> 00:45:18,805
Speaker 1: bored with. It is a funereal effigy made of kings

759
00:45:18,805 --> 00:45:21,645
Speaker 1: and queens that was done in the in England and

760
00:45:21,845 --> 00:45:25,885
Speaker 1: France starting in the medieval time period. So here's what happens. Basically,

761
00:45:25,925 --> 00:45:27,845
Speaker 1: when a monarch would die, what they would do is

762
00:45:27,845 --> 00:45:30,685
Speaker 1: they would make a sculpture of them out of wood, wax,

763
00:45:30,765 --> 00:45:37,085
Speaker 1: and cloth, and before the next royal was coronated, everyone

764
00:45:37,165 --> 00:45:39,605
Speaker 1: had to treat that effigy as if it was a

765
00:45:39,685 --> 00:45:45,165
Speaker 1: real persona so like the servants had to wait on it,

766
00:45:45,605 --> 00:45:49,165
Speaker 1: they had to dress it, and probably a very elegant finery,

767
00:45:49,365 --> 00:45:52,645
Speaker 1: which I thought you might like. And then also you know,

768
00:45:52,725 --> 00:45:55,085
Speaker 1: I imagined they had to take like the king's counsel

769
00:45:55,085 --> 00:45:58,245
Speaker 1: and they had to talk to this like effigy because

770
00:45:58,365 --> 00:46:01,765
Speaker 1: like before the next person was coronated, which I'm just like,

771
00:46:01,845 --> 00:46:08,485
Speaker 1: that is so silly, that is sane. So yeah, so

772
00:46:08,525 --> 00:46:10,885
Speaker 1: I feel like this would be a good fit for

773
00:46:10,965 --> 00:46:15,085
Speaker 1: you because I know we've talked about like royalty. You

774
00:46:15,085 --> 00:46:17,645
Speaker 1: would like to be royalty. I would be the Jester

775
00:46:19,125 --> 00:46:24,325
Speaker 1: Taylor would take care of the horses. Yeah, the stable girls, girl,

776
00:46:25,045 --> 00:46:27,885
Speaker 1: this girl, the girl in the grounds, the ground I do.

777
00:46:28,045 --> 00:46:32,125
Speaker 1: I do feel like though, once you're gone, like you're gone,

778
00:46:32,205 --> 00:46:34,845
Speaker 1: like your spirit is gone. Body is whatever. I want,

779
00:46:34,885 --> 00:46:37,725
Speaker 1: like a sculpture to remember. I don't need a sculpture

780
00:46:37,925 --> 00:46:39,845
Speaker 1: for people to wait on me, because that's a little

781
00:46:39,885 --> 00:46:43,605
Speaker 1: bit insane. Okay, well we won't. We'll make sure we'll

782
00:46:43,685 --> 00:46:45,925
Speaker 1: keep that in mind. So keep me away from the

783
00:46:46,005 --> 00:46:48,605
Speaker 1: Carl Chandler's of the world. I think this is a

784
00:46:48,845 --> 00:46:53,005
Speaker 1: clarifying moment for us. And yeah, but then after they

785
00:46:53,005 --> 00:46:55,405
Speaker 1: would coordinate the people, then they would just like, you know,

786
00:46:55,605 --> 00:46:58,445
Speaker 1: store the effigy, you know, like back in the janitor's

787
00:46:58,485 --> 00:47:01,885
Speaker 1: close or whatever. Like they're like, it feels weird to

788
00:47:01,965 --> 00:47:04,005
Speaker 1: like get rid of this, like throw this away, like

789
00:47:04,085 --> 00:47:06,045
Speaker 1: this effige, I think we should, but we also don't

790
00:47:06,085 --> 00:47:08,245
Speaker 1: know what to do with it, so they would sometimes, Yeah,

791
00:47:08,245 --> 00:47:10,725
Speaker 1: they would just like store it exactly. It was a

792
00:47:10,805 --> 00:47:15,565
Speaker 1: very specific opening a closet and there are like full

793
00:47:15,685 --> 00:47:18,765
Speaker 1: life sized wooden dolls of all these kings and queens.

794
00:47:19,605 --> 00:47:22,485
Speaker 1: I would I just imagine them like strewn about too,

795
00:47:22,605 --> 00:47:25,405
Speaker 1: like not like it's just like to like, I don't

796
00:47:25,405 --> 00:47:29,165
Speaker 1: know what to do with you. Oh no, Like sometimes

797
00:47:29,165 --> 00:47:31,725
Speaker 1: they would put them in the tombs like or like

798
00:47:31,765 --> 00:47:34,165
Speaker 1: on top of the tombs or whatever. But then other

799
00:47:34,245 --> 00:47:36,085
Speaker 1: they would just be like ah, and now they're like

800
00:47:36,125 --> 00:47:38,885
Speaker 1: on display and like a museum. But it is kind

801
00:47:38,925 --> 00:47:43,045
Speaker 1: of how meta, like to have your effigy guarding your

802
00:47:43,085 --> 00:47:45,845
Speaker 1: tomb with your actual body inside of it. How bananas

803
00:47:45,925 --> 00:47:54,005
Speaker 1: is that? So bananas? It's supera anyway. Um, So effigies

804
00:47:54,045 --> 00:47:56,325
Speaker 1: they be happening, but they don't they don't really do it.

805
00:47:56,365 --> 00:47:58,485
Speaker 1: They don't do this anymore. You know, there's not effigies

806
00:47:58,525 --> 00:48:03,125
Speaker 1: of the you know, UK royals anymore. So um, good

807
00:48:03,125 --> 00:48:06,925
Speaker 1: to know, sadly. Yeah, Prince William effigy. Yeah, if y'all

808
00:48:06,925 --> 00:48:08,845
Speaker 1: do an effigy at Prince William, make sure it's when

809
00:48:08,845 --> 00:48:12,205
Speaker 1: he's younger, because he looks a little beat up. Now. Yeah,

810
00:48:11,125 --> 00:48:16,005
Speaker 1: he was, um whatever awarded. I don't know the word

811
00:48:16,005 --> 00:48:19,725
Speaker 1: I'm looking for here. Oh yeah, the most beautiful bald man.

812
00:48:20,485 --> 00:48:23,525
Speaker 1: Have you seen the rock? Yeah? Have you seen mister clean?

813
00:48:24,485 --> 00:48:28,885
Speaker 1: There's so have you seen? So I'm thinking that the

814
00:48:28,965 --> 00:48:31,005
Speaker 1: royal family is like so racist that they're like we're

815
00:48:31,005 --> 00:48:34,085
Speaker 1: gonna stop our effigy making now with like Megan Markle

816
00:48:34,965 --> 00:48:39,845
Speaker 1: that honestly, honestly, for all we know, there are the

817
00:48:39,965 --> 00:48:42,725
Speaker 1: effigies still there in the closet. I mean they're in

818
00:48:42,765 --> 00:48:45,525
Speaker 1: a museum now, but maybe they probably do put them

819
00:48:45,525 --> 00:48:50,005
Speaker 1: in a closet. Oh, yes, the Royal family secret effigies.

820
00:48:50,445 --> 00:48:56,285
Speaker 1: Oh we just started a conspiracy. See starts with starts

821
00:48:56,405 --> 00:49:01,325
Speaker 1: starts with us being just like, well, hell well, hell

822
00:49:01,365 --> 00:49:03,485
Speaker 1: the Royal Family's racist. What are we going to do?

823
00:49:04,805 --> 00:49:09,005
Speaker 1: I feel like I learned or relearned or remembered that

824
00:49:09,165 --> 00:49:16,005
Speaker 1: people are just very strange. Oh yeah, people are strange.

825
00:49:16,205 --> 00:49:19,285
Speaker 1: And I think that's the new logline for the series.

826
00:49:19,445 --> 00:49:27,445
Speaker 1: People are strange and they die at sus strange and

827
00:49:27,525 --> 00:49:34,125
Speaker 1: they die. Well, thank you, yeah, well, thank you Taylor

828
00:49:34,165 --> 00:49:38,125
Speaker 1: for that. That was a beautiful conclusion. And Nika, thank

829
00:49:38,165 --> 00:49:40,925
Speaker 1: you for you know, sharing your story. Taylor, thank you

830
00:49:40,965 --> 00:49:44,405
Speaker 1: for sharing your story. You know. Um, and we're gonna

831
00:49:44,645 --> 00:49:48,205
Speaker 1: we're gonna get out of here and uh, you know,

832
00:49:48,525 --> 00:50:06,725
Speaker 1: do other things now. So we'll talk at you next week. Bye.

833
00:50:07,725 --> 00:50:12,645
Speaker 1: Cadaver Gaus is a production of iHeartRadio and School of Humans.

834
00:50:12,845 --> 00:50:15,485
Speaker 1: And just so you know, we recorded this episode before

835
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Speaker 1: Prince Philip died. So sorry for that relatively insensitive seeming

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