1 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: What is going on? My people, everyone across this great nation. 2 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: Hope you had a good Fourth of July three and 3 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: out podcast John Middlecoff Texas blowing up. Uh planned on 4 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: doing this a lot earlier today. It's about seven o'clock 5 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: on a Monday night, but you know, I'm on a 6 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: little staycation, so I just kind of put it off, 7 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: and then I started watching the home run derby Jack 8 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: Peterson and Vlad Guerrero Jr. Just going at it. Jock 9 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: Peterson actually high school teammate and was also I think 10 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: a high school wide receiver. His teammate was Davante Adams, 11 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers star wide receiver Palo Alto High School. 12 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: Also the high school at Jim Harbaugh. Uh So a 13 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: lot of people have Jock Peterson, you know, could have 14 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: been a football player, but he hits bombs. Doesn't hit 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: for average, but he hits bombs. You know this is 16 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: Uh we're in the old drums right now. Everyone in 17 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: the NFL texting a couple of buddies there in the 18 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: middle of vacations spread out all over the world. France. Uh, Nantucket. 19 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: I don't know Belichick, but if I did, he's in Nantucket. 20 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: Follow Linda on Instagram. They're just all over kicking it, 21 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: hanging out. We got a couple of weeks left and 22 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: football is about to start. I tweeted out a little earlier. 23 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: I was at the gym this this afternoon. We got 24 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I pay so much goddamn money for the gym, 25 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: it better be nice. But uh, I got this big. 26 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,119 Speaker 1: We got a big flat screen TV and some chairs 27 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: where you can chill in the gym locker room and 28 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: the men's locker room. I don't know what the women's 29 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: locker room has, not that I should or care, but 30 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: in the men's locker room there's a big TV. It's always, 31 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: you know, got a basketball game on, football game on whatever, 32 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: whatever season, it's on golf, you know, World Cup, you 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: name it. Something always on going on. If you go 34 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: really early in the morning. Sometimes I got like news on, 35 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: but for the most part, it's always, you know, a 36 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: game today, you know, early July, I walked by and 37 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: there's like three dudes almost at six. I wanted to 38 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: hype it up, but it was legitimately three guys just 39 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:14,560 Speaker 1: watching the television, which was the Green Bay Packers against 40 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers from two thousand nine and they were 41 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:21,119 Speaker 1: pretty locked in. I'm like, God, people are getting the itch. 42 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm getting the itch, and I got the itch a 43 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: little bit this morning read about Chris Ballard. He wrote 44 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 1: the mm QB. I don't think it's called that anymore, 45 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: but whatever Peter King callses his article. Uh. I got 46 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: something that I took away from that that I that 47 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: I think that you know, more people in the NFL 48 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: can use. Uh some thoughts on just a little bit 49 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: of a quarterback round table, uh from some m v 50 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: P bets. Albert Brewer wrote an article on just some 51 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: of the young college quarterbacks and just some initial takes 52 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: on those guys before we head into the season. And 53 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: then today we'll do the NFC north Over unders Bears, Vikings, 54 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: Green Bay, Detroit. But I I want to start with this. 55 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: And also I'm out of Middlecoff mail back questions, so 56 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: you gotta slide up in my d m s. Fill 57 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: those bad boys up at John Middlecoff is my Instagram handle, 58 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: and you can ask whatever you want and I'll answer 59 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: him starting Friday again, I just don't have any questions. 60 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: You guys have been partying too hard for U four. 61 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: I get it. But uh, I need you to come 62 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: back and uh fill me with a little content. You 63 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: guys always ask good questions, and it's that time I 64 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: need you. So I'm calling the people, but I want 65 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 1: to start with this Chris Ballard, who you know. Colin 66 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: obviously knows really well. I know a bunch of people. 67 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 1: I know Matt Naggy became really really good friends with 68 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: him when he was with him in Kansas City. Coach 69 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: read loves him. Everyone seems to love Chris Ballad that 70 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: have been around. I don't know him at all. I've 71 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: I've never met him, but it's pretty clear he's pretty special, 72 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: you know, like he's got he's kind of got it. 73 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: And he wrote this article. I highly recommend just go 74 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 1: to Peter King's Twitter account and you can click it. 75 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: I don't even know what website Peter King right four 76 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: game keep up with all the movement, But he wrote 77 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: the article for Peter and it was really good and 78 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: he kind of got in depth as as much as 79 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: he could without revealing some secrets. And if you watched 80 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: his YouTube series, the one thing that you saw that 81 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: he does a really good job of and clearly the 82 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: top personnel departments do this is he relies on his scalps. 83 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: Like they go into a meeting and it's an open forum. 84 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: You can say whatever you want. If you put in 85 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: the work and you have conviction and you believe something, 86 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: you get on the table and you fight for the player. 87 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: But the thing is, I would imagine they don't have 88 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: that much disconnect in the room because one thing that 89 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: he wrote about was how they have this green beret 90 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: that helps them like get around a lot of the 91 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: fluff and the bs. When I when I was in Philly, 92 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: we used to what was the term that we used 93 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: to call uh? Not a fraud at to think of 94 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 1: the term, it's just it's escaping my mind right now. 95 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: Used to call him a con So like if if 96 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: you walked it was a con a con man. If 97 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: you walked into the meeting in a suit, or when 98 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: we brought you in the top thirty visits and you've 99 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: been arrested a couple of times or just done stupid 100 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: shit and you had on like a three piece suit, 101 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: you were just a con man. Like this football, you 102 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: can wear just normal clothes. We're just having a normal conversation. 103 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 1: We gotta get to the bottom of it. Don't be 104 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: a con man. And I think the one thing that 105 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: clearly indeed does very very well is they know exactly 106 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 1: what they were looking for. And I think that's always 107 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: separated New England because their GM has been their head coach, 108 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: so it's been a streamlined process. And I think with 109 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: Seattle they have they obviously around the same page and 110 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: have been for years. Uh Philly with Joe Douglas and 111 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: Howie and what they've done the last two or three 112 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: years with Doug Peterson all on the same page, Andy 113 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 1: would Dorsey and now with Veach completely on the same page. 114 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: And I think what you're seeing Chris ballor doing a 115 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: short period of time, it's not just him. And like 116 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: he said in this article, yeah, I'm the ultimate decision maker, 117 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: but I ask everyone for their opinion. And when you 118 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 1: have when you have a scouting department that is all 119 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: locked in and all looking for the same thing, in 120 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: the sense of not that it's like a group think 121 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: and we're all trying to find like get a consensus 122 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: on something, but you're you all know exactly what you 123 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: want at every position and what type as much as 124 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: you are scouting the player. He had a great line 125 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: in this He said the talent of a player. And 126 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: he learned this I think from Gerry Angelo. He said, 127 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: works for him forever in Chicago. Uh, the talent of 128 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: a player determines his ceiling, but his football character, meaning 129 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 1: how hard he works, how much he cares about the game. 130 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: You know, just his drive is toughness, all that stuff 131 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: determines his floor. And when you become a good team, 132 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 1: and I was thinking about this today, when you become 133 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: a good team, you stopped drafting anywhere near the top ten. 134 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: I mean the Patriots always draft like thirty two, like 135 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: the Chiefs for the last sin and he's been there, 136 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 1: have always drafted in the twenties. The Colts, now that 137 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: Ballard's got this thing and they got a coach, are 138 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: always gonna draft in the twenties. Seattle's always draft in 139 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: the twenties. You can there. There's two routes you can 140 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: take in the twenties. You can go home run derby 141 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: and try to hit a home run, and there's usually 142 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: a reason that guy is there if he quote unquote 143 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: has top ten talent but he felt to you at four. 144 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: Or you can try to hit a little bit. You're 145 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: just know when you're gonna hit a double because the 146 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: one thing, when you take a swing and you miss, 147 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: it's pretty devastating when you're a good team because you 148 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: are depending on these players to be good. Like Chris 149 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: Ballard showed last year, he was just trying to hit doubles. Now, 150 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: when you get really high football character guys and people 151 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: that care, a guy can kind of overachieve. So a 152 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: double can turn into a triple. Darius Leonard. Obviously, last 153 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: year Quenton Nelson was a home run type swing because 154 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 1: you were drafting number six. But when you start nailing 155 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: people in the late first rounds and in the second round, 156 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: that means you know what you're doing. And to me, 157 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: this guy just has this humility to him, has this 158 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: kind of toughness aspect to him, has this you know, 159 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 1: as an evaluator, he's not really looking to be the 160 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: sexiest guy in the room. You know, some people love 161 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: the super fast guys, the super good looking guys when 162 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 1: they get off the bus. Like he just wants football players, 163 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 1: and I think the one thing. And Bill Polian is 164 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame executive, but he had sometimes he 165 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: would take some big swings late in the twenties and listen, 166 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: got Peyton Manning. That was just his philosophy, and it 167 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: burned them a couple of times. Like so far with 168 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard, he's kind of telling you know, like when 169 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm drafting a seven, we're looking to just get solid players, 170 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: and we know we have elite players, and we're gonna 171 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: have to get elite players other ways, Like you're you're 172 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: not gonna get more than likely a Hall of Famer 173 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,280 Speaker 1: at twenty eight, but if you get an eight year starter, 174 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: you're in pretty good shape. I've seen countless. I saw 175 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: Balky do it multiple times once that team got good. 176 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: He couldn't hit on a player in the late twenties, 177 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: and it eventually caught up to him and it crippled 178 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: the team. But the one thing the Colts have going 179 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: for them is this scouting department and this mindset and 180 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: this collective effort as a group being led by this guy. 181 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: I'm all in again. I'm a sucker for an article. Now, 182 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: granted he wrote the article, but everything I've heard about 183 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: this guy, everything I've seen his team do, how well 184 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: he handled last year, Josh McDaniels leaving him at the 185 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: altar to get Frank right, I mean, that was not 186 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: an easy situation, and it looks like you kind of 187 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 1: hit a home run on that higher. Who knows that 188 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: maybe he's better off with that higher than he is 189 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:47,720 Speaker 1: would have been with Josh McDaniels. Now, don't get me wrong, 190 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: I thought Josh McDaniels was the right guy for him 191 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: to hire. Who would have known that he would have 192 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: backed out last minute? You know, that might be an 193 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: all time mistake for Josh McDaniels. But I'll tell you 194 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: this for all the Colts fans listening buying what he's selling. Okay, 195 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: let's dive into some of the quarterback stuff, and I'm 196 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 1: gonna start with Albert Brier. Uh. I came across this 197 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: article on Twitter basically just dove into all the top 198 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: quarterback prospects uh coming into this season. Some of them. 199 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: I Utah State has a guy, uh, what Washington is 200 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: gonna have Eastan who transferred from Georgia. There are a 201 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: lot of guys kind of spread out around the country 202 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: who will see how this Michigan guy, say Patterson, if 203 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: he can grow. But it's really a three headed star 204 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 1: class right now, at least on paper to it. Alabama 205 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: from a Georgia and because Clemson guy is not uh 206 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: eligible in Herbert and Oregon, and he got a bunch 207 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: of good quotes, you know, like Albert always does. I 208 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 1: actually think Albert has done a fantastic job transitioning from 209 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,439 Speaker 1: Peter King at the MMQB. He he knows a lot 210 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: of people in the league, a lot of scouting directors, 211 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: a lot of scouts, and he just gets good quotes. 212 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you just you know, you know when people 213 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 1: they cover NFL don't know people in the NFL. And 214 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: you know when you cover when you read someone that 215 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: covers the NFL that knows people in the NFL. I'm 216 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: not talking agents, I'm talking scouting directors, I'm talking GMS, 217 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 1: and I'm talking coaches, because if you can't get that perspective, 218 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: you're just you're wasting everyone's time. Because that's what matters. 219 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: That's who's gonna draft the players, that's who's gonna play 220 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: the players. Uh So, if you're not getting quotes from 221 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 1: GMS and coaches, I don't put much stock into you 222 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: as a reporter. Not trying to be an asshole. I'm 223 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: just it's just a fact. But I want to touch 224 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 1: on all three guys. I'm gonna start with Tah and 225 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: Trent Dilford was quoted in this article he does that 226 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 1: a lead eleven camp, and they've been around, spent a 227 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: lot of time around him. I know a couple of 228 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 1: people in Alabama. I mean the way they were talking 229 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: about this guy two years ago was basically like Russell 230 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: Wilson meet Steve Young. And I think Trent Dilford compared him, 231 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: uh to Drew Brees, or maybe some people at Alabama 232 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: that are there now compared him to Drew Brees in 233 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 1: the sense that that's the guy that ironically save and 234 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: missed on. I think this guy is pretty special. And 235 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: in the NFL, we know a couple of things have 236 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: gone out the window. Height the quarterback is not a 237 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: big deal anymore, and you can't be five five, but 238 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: two is taller than Kyler Murray, and Kyler Murray went 239 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: one now toa is not an elite athlete. But the 240 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 1: one thing too, is is very very accurate. If you're very, 241 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 1: very accurate in the NFL, it's hard to fail. I mean, 242 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 1: Alex Smith had a hell of a career just because 243 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: he was really really accurate now to his arms better 244 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: than Alex Now, the hard part about to Uh. Is 245 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: that his Sometimes when you're playing at an elite program, 246 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: it's hard to evaluate you because your team is so 247 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: much better than everyone else. And he's playing with a 248 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Uh. Number four, Jerry Judy, that's a top 249 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: ten pick next year. I mean, Jerry Judy might be 250 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 1: a top five pick. Jerry Judy is a freak, so 251 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: that's not gonna hurt him. But I do think the 252 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: reason we quote unquote picked these quarterbacks apart is because 253 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm a draft one of these guys in the top 254 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: five and then one day I hope to pay him 255 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: like a hundred million dollars. I love it when, like 256 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 1: I can't believe they're picking this guy apart, Like that's 257 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: the business people like if that's the whole point of 258 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: this whole deal, Because if you don't pick him apart 259 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: and you end up taking the wrong guy, good luck 260 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: to you in your franchise, because you're gonna suck. I'll 261 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: promise you that. And from what I've seen, I think 262 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: two is an excellent prospect, and I think he's a 263 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: borderline It's it's hard to say this before season even starts, 264 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: but I'm pretty confident he's like a top ten lock. 265 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: Now we've seen ship changed, but unless you know non injury, 266 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: I don't see how he doesn't go in the top ten. 267 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 1: Jake From One thing I hadn't thought about that that 268 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: Breer was quoted. I think it was either a scout 269 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 1: or a coach that said they were so impressed Justin Fields, 270 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: who's now Ohio State was the number one overall recruit 271 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: at quarterback, was more dynamic than from given that he 272 00:13:56,320 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 1: can really run just complete free. Now I think times 273 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: like the NFL, we put some stock into that and 274 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: I say we like, I'm not there, I'm just a 275 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: media guy now, but you know what I mean that, Like, 276 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: it is a big deal being a five star recruit, 277 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 1: being the number one overall recruit, whatever. But you're also 278 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: once you get to the NFL, you're three or four 279 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: years removed from that. But it is a big deal 280 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: at the time when you beat out a guy that's 281 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: one year younger than you, and you you can't take over. 282 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 1: Because we know that the Georgia coaches wanted Justin Fields 283 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: to be the quarterback, couldn't beat him out. He had 284 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: a transfer because Jake From was just that good. Now 285 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: I talked to move the sticks, Daniel Jeremiah and my 286 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: other podcast with Haberman Haybraman Middlecoff listen to that bad 287 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: but we talked a lot of football there too, and 288 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: he said that he had talked to some people around 289 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. They're a little unsure, but it was the 290 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: first time that I thought, Wow, this kid's got something. 291 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: Easton number one recruit transferred fields even a better recruit 292 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: had to transfer. And basically what Albert Breer's article was 293 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: saying is that Jake from has at pressure on him 294 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: twenty four seven three since he's been there, he's had 295 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: no room for error. They like they, I mean, they 296 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: literally wanted to replace him last year and they couldn't. 297 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: So I get maybe he's not the most physically gifted guy. 298 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: I actually think his his comp just TV scouting him 299 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, probably an Alex Smith pipe guy. 300 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: Uh doesn't have a great arm, but clearly he's really smart, 301 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: really competitive, and he's got something because they can't get 302 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: rid of him. Now, this is a big year for him, 303 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: but if he plays well, I don't see how he's 304 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: not a first round player. Now. The one thing what 305 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep saying all these first round guys because 306 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into Justin Herbert right now. There aren't 307 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: that many spots, right It's like Russell Westbrooks about to 308 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: get traded in the NBA. Well, bring up the NBA standings. 309 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: Most teams have pretty established point guards. Like most teams 310 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: in the NFL have quarterbacks. And obviously they have quarterbacks. Football, 311 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: you gotta have a quarterback, but I mean quarterbacks that 312 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: they either believe in or they've recently drafted. I there 313 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: aren't that many teams in the NFL that have openings. 314 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: Think about the last five or six years, how many 315 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: guys have come into this league, Like starting like two 316 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: thous fourteen, Derek Carr, Dak Prescott, Jared Goff, Carson Wentz, 317 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, obviously the Bakers, the Sam Donald's, the Josh 318 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:15,800 Speaker 1: Allen to Lamar Jackson's. I mean, I'm have ten guys 319 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: like the last five years, and I'm probably Deshaun Watson, Mr. 320 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: R Bisky that's like twelve. It's like, you know, more 321 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: third of the league has been drafted in the last 322 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: five years. That's pretty nuts. And the and then Justin 323 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: Herbert to me, he's my biggest red flag. Uh, he's 324 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: going to get drafted high, like he's a borderline first 325 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: round lock because of his physical tools. But he's got 326 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on him this year, the Pact 327 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: twelves down. He opens his season with Auburn. I think 328 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: it might be in Jerry's palace. Maybe it's in Atlanta. 329 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure where that game is, but that's 330 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: gonna be everyone's watching. Oregon's the top ten team. Hell, 331 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 1: they might even be higher whenever the preseason rankings come out. 332 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: But they gotta win that game. Now, if they win 333 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 1: that game, there's gonna be a lot of momentum. Everyone's 334 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: gonna be like they're a playoff team. They lose that game, 335 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 1: they're screwed. But I mean he's not necessarily screwed. But 336 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like the hike that could come by 337 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 1: winning that game for this player, we could be he 338 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: he could He has the momentum, plus the physical attributes, 339 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: plus all the character stuff to be the number one 340 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: overall pick next year. Now, he also has the greatest 341 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: variance of like it could go the other way. But 342 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 1: we've also seen like I saw Josh Allen, who I 343 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: think there are some similarities as a player. Now Herbert's 344 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: much more polished. But I'm just saying, like a guy 345 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: with great physical ability that was terrible in college still 346 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: went in the top ten. So even if he had 347 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,919 Speaker 1: a really down season, I don't see how he falls 348 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: that far in the draft. But I think no player 349 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,919 Speaker 1: has more to game by just kind of dominating and 350 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: his team playing well. Because Too is kind of already 351 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: to a right from He's gonna have some physical limitations 352 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: like Herbert has all the physical positive attribute, just got 353 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: this huge arm. He's a good athlete, high character guy 354 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: at a big program up but they gotta win a 355 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: little bit. Uh, and it's gonna be on his shoulders 356 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: to get the job done. And we're all gonna be watching. God, 357 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: I can't wait Auburn what July eight that the game 358 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: is probably like August. I mean we're about, you know, 359 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: a month and a half away, not not that's not 360 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: that far. So it's it's gonna be fun. It looks 361 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 1: like we're gonna have a pretty good quarterback class. Uh. 362 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: Definitely just at the top with those three guys, and 363 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 1: then like every year. I'll be honest, I didn't know 364 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: who the hell Daniel Jones was last year. At this time, 365 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: I couldn't have pointed him out of lineup. I didn't 366 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:34,880 Speaker 1: know probably anything about him. So and that's the one 367 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: thing we wrote in there that like, there are a 368 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: couple other guys just to keep an eye on, and 369 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: they'll pop up, Like we'll have a feel for those 370 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 1: guys like three or four games into the season. But 371 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,400 Speaker 1: right now, there's a senior quarterback somewhere or an underclassman 372 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 1: somewhere that we're not talking about that's gonna come out 373 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: in ball. And that's what makes football so fun is 374 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: because NFL the season, like the college season, goes hand 375 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,840 Speaker 1: in hand with the NFL season. You just it's basically 376 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: the minor leagues. Like in baseball, you get drafted, I 377 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,479 Speaker 1: don't see you for three years. And the Giants drafted 378 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: this kid, Joey Bart number two overall two years ago. 379 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: He's like the best catching prospect in forever, and I'm 380 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: not gonna see him like two years. I'm not patient 381 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: enough to wait, Like I want to see the guy 382 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: and then I want you to draft him, and then 383 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 1: I want you to play, like that's what society demands. 384 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: In two thousand nineteen and that's what football gives us. 385 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: And then there are a couple of other things I saw. 386 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 1: I've talked a little bit about this, but the m 387 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: v P odds, I think right now you can get 388 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: some pretty good odds. I looked the last time a 389 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 1: guy has won back to back m vps. Peyton Manning 390 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: did it twice like in the last twenty years, and 391 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: then obviously Farv did in the late nineties, actually won 392 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 1: three in a row. But it doesn't happen that often. 393 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 1: So two people, Peyton Manning and Brett Farv in the 394 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 1: last like thirty five years have done so it's very difficult. 395 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: And obviously when Peyton did it, it was oh eight 396 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: oh nine in a four oh three, like he was 397 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,959 Speaker 1: atty well established into his career. I mean, Patrick mahomes Well, 398 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: it's so crazy about last year. While it was a 399 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: second season, it was first year as a starter, so 400 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: I would probably not bet on him to win it. Though. 401 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 1: Is there a chance he's like an all time great 402 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: and he just rattles off like four straight MVPs. Maybe, 403 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: but for betting odds, to me, the guy that I like, uh, 404 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: And it kind of hits back to what I opened 405 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 1: the show with is. I believe in the Colts. I 406 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: think the Colts could win twelve, thirteen, fourteen games, and 407 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: if they are the number one seed, which I don't 408 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: think is out of the realm of possibility though a 409 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: little difficult just because their division is hard. But they 410 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: don't they don't have the first place schedule because the 411 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: Texans do. But Luck at plus at basically eight to one. Uh. 412 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: Last year he was thirty nine and fifteen. So if 413 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: those if that number could get to like forty three 414 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: and twelve and they go thirteen and three. Uh, he's 415 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: just watching Andrew Luck. He's bound to win an m 416 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: v P in his career. I like those odds. And 417 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 1: then the other guy that I'm just I think it's 418 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: got a chance for a big year. I think his 419 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: team is gonna be really good. It wouldn't shock me 420 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: if they're like a one or two seed because they 421 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: win like twelve or thirteen games. Would be the Atlanta Falcons. 422 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan last year was thirty five touchdowns and seven picks. 423 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: Everyone that plays fantasy knows like he had a pretty 424 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: damn good year. Of the the defense was a trocious 425 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't his fault. They were throwing touchdowns. You can 426 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: get him right now in the book. I got twenty 427 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: eight to one to one. Now, the one thing that 428 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: leaves me hesitant a little bit is like when you 429 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: think of Matt Ryan, is he a two time m 430 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: v P like that that would be the one thing, 431 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: Like Aaron Rodgers won two m v ps. Is Matt 432 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 1: Ryan gonna win two m v ps? I mean maybe 433 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: he is. And then the other non quarterback I actually 434 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: obviously quarterbacks, non quarterbacks don't win this award, you know, 435 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 1: beside Adrian Peterson come back from an A c L 436 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: running for two thousand yards, like it doesn't usually happen. 437 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: But think about this, What if I told you the 438 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:58,520 Speaker 1: Jets went ten and six and Levian Bell just had 439 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: like a Marshall Falk type season. Remember when Marshall Falk 440 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: and the NBP I think back in would have been 441 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: two thousand one. It just has eight touchdowns, you know, 442 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: like thirteen on the ground, another thirteen catching the ball, 443 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: rushes for like four hundred, catches ninety balls, and has 444 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: a thousand yards in the air. Like I'm just to me, 445 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:22,959 Speaker 1: at what are his odds? I think his odds were 446 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,119 Speaker 1: like eighty to one I just liked them as just 447 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: a Maybe it was forty two one I actually I 448 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: didn't write it down, but it was. It was big. 449 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: It would have been my my big Hail Mary, though 450 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: very unlikely and I wouldn't put much money on it. Okay, 451 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: let's get to the NFC North. We've done the a 452 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: f C East, We've done the NFC East, We've done 453 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: the NFC South, We've done the a f C South, 454 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: We've done the a f C North. Now we will 455 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: do the NFC North. So then we just have the West. 456 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: There's no central on football. Huh. So yeah, we're I mean, 457 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: we're I'm out of team is here? Get to get 458 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: this through the this low times. Get this through this 459 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: low times. Okay, Chicago, Minnesota, Green Bay, Detroit. Let's start 460 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 1: with my favorite team. I'll be listen. You guys know 461 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: I'm biased. My guy, Matt Naggie's head coach, a couple 462 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: of guys on the staff that I know, known for 463 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 1: a long time. So I'm rooting for the Bears. I 464 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: am a parachuted in when they hired Naggie and I 465 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 1: became a Bears fan. I probably root first and foremost 466 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: for my two teams. In the Bay Area more so 467 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 1: the Niners, because I profit from their success. If they 468 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: do well, more people listen is good for my business. 469 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 1: But for this, like nationally, I don't really care, you know, 470 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: I just root for the people I know like that. 471 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for the Bears, and luckily it's I'm not 472 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: that crazy because last year they they're good. Like clearly 473 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: they're pretty good to me. The biggest question mark I 474 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 1: have by far for the team with the best odds 475 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: to win this division, is there the defense. Now, on paper, 476 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: their defense is absolutely stacked, and you talk to people 477 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: on that staff, they go, jeez, Louise, we look good 478 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,639 Speaker 1: in practice, but what will the drop off be on 479 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: game day? With Chuck Pagano and Vic Fangio Because I 480 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: think it's pretty well established. Vic Fangio is probably the 481 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: best defensive coordinator the last ten years. Wait did in 482 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: San Francisco and then when he did in Chicago, like 483 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: he's his teams kick ass and take names. Now, don't 484 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:30,880 Speaker 1: forget just because Ryan Grigson basically screwed Chuck Pagano. Ryan 485 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: Griggson had all the power, couldn't pick a player to 486 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: save his life. Uh, somehow kept the job there for 487 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: five years just because he happened to fall into Andrew Luck. 488 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: Like I don't totally hold all the indie stuff against Chuck. 489 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: Now he's not a head coach, but don't forget he 490 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: was in Baltimore for a long time with ray Lewis 491 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: and he was very, very very highly thought of. Now 492 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna see there's a lot of pressure because this 493 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: team he's inheriting arguably the best defense in the league. 494 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 1: With everyone coming back, they're all kind of like young 495 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: and in their prime, and the expectation for this team 496 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: is kind of a you know, make a Super Bowl run. 497 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: I would say Super Bowl would be strong, but like 498 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: NFC Championship game. I mean, they just had a home 499 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: playoff game. Usually the next step. Look at the Rams 500 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 1: two years ago, host the home playoff game and loss. 501 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,199 Speaker 1: Next year they made the Super Bowl. I don't think 502 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 1: that's totally unrealistic when you view well, the head coach 503 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: an offensive guy, Mitch there's a lot there to work with. 504 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: They have a bunch of pieces on offense, their offensive 505 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: lines good uh they have, They've have good receivers. Now. 506 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 1: They drafted the kid last year in the second round, 507 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: Miller they got Allen Robinson. They got rid of Jordan 508 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 1: Howard because he wasn't a great scheme fit. They got 509 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: Treek Cohen. They drafted I can't remember what school the 510 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 1: running back they drafted on, but I know I know 511 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 1: they really like them. Obviously, the I'm trying to think 512 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,639 Speaker 1: Eagles drafted the guy from Penn State. The Rams. I 513 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: get my mid round running backs mixed up, but they're 514 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: high on the rookie uning back. And obviously the defense 515 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: speaks for itself. Clil Mack him and Aaron Donald best 516 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: two players non quarterback on defense and the league. A 517 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: Kiem Hicks, I don't even know if he's underrated anymore, 518 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: absolute monster role. Kwan Smith is a badass. I mean, 519 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 1: their secondary is just really good. They're they're just really good. 520 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: I mean their their team is loaded. So I like 521 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: them to go over nine and a half to win 522 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: the division plus one seventy. I don't feel quite as 523 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: strong because I actually think the divisions a little better 524 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: than I have been kind of talking about it just 525 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: looking at it, because I do think Minnesota, who over 526 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: under nine, you could argue there might be more complete 527 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: than the Bears because their defense is also elite at 528 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: least on paper. And Mike Zimmer is just a better 529 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: defensive coach than Chuck Begana And offensively, they just have 530 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: more pieces than the Bears. I mean the wide receivers 531 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: Tam speaks for itself, Feeland Dicks, those two are awesome. 532 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: Somehow they're gonna trade call Rudolph then they extended him. 533 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: He's really good, I mean catch touchdowns. Dalvin Cook, who 534 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: is extremely talented. Now I heard a stat he's only 535 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: played seventeen of the possible thirty two games for his 536 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: first two first two seasons. Now, granted, part of that's 537 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: a torn a c L, but he's really talented. Uh. 538 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: They got rid of Latavius Murray, but they're they're just 539 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: their starters on offense. If Kirk Cousins can just play 540 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: decently well and he had moments last year, they could 541 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 1: win the division. To me, both those two teams are 542 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: double digit win teams. I like the Bears over nine 543 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: and a half. I like the Vikings over nine and all. 544 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,199 Speaker 1: They also resigned Anthony Barr. Like they're the Vikings are 545 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: really good. You could argue on paper they're better than 546 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:45,880 Speaker 1: the Bears. Uh So you know, I don't hate the 547 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: plus basically two to one Minnesota to win the division. 548 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: I don't like the Packers from the simple fact I 549 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: don't trust their coach at all. I just do not 550 00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: trust their head coach at all. I don't think the 551 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: quarterback already doesn't like him, doesn't respect him. Uh Uh. Now, obviously, 552 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: if the quarterback just plays out of his mind that 553 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: quarterbacks his name is Aaron Rodgers, you can beat any 554 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: team on any given day. Their defense actually is not terrible. Uh. 555 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: They signed the two Smiths, Zadarius in Preston, signed Amos 556 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: from the Bears. The Alexander, the corner they drafted I 557 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: think two years ago is really good. Uh. They're just 558 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: they're a good team. Like on paper, they actually have 559 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 1: some talent. I just don't trust the head coach literally 560 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: at all. I don't. I had heard things about him 561 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: before we got the Tennessee job that even John McVeigh 562 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: wasn't really that higher on him than somehow he became 563 00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 1: a coordinator, and when he was a coordinator, the Titans 564 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: were not very good. Uh. The terrors his achilles And 565 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: again I'm not like Taran Achilles. It's not some indictment 566 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: on him. As a coach, but it does like that 567 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: limits his ability in the O t as like he 568 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: probably wasn't able to do as much. How healthy is 569 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: crazy what we were talking about this, But how healthy 570 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: is the coach gonna be for training camp? I don't know. 571 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: I just I don't see the Packers as a playoff team. 572 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: I actually think it's more likely. And this is gonna 573 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: sound crazy and people are gonna be like, you wait, 574 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: I don't hate the Packers. I want to see Aaron 575 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: Rodgers be good. He's He's one of the more fun 576 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: players I've ever watched in my life. But if this 577 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: season for them is a disaster, like what if they 578 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: went five and eleven? Is La Flora one and done? 579 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: Because I actually think of all the coaches that could 580 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: be a one and done this year, just given the 581 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 1: expectations for the Packers, Like can you imagine they went 582 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: five and eleven and Rogers just hates him. I can 583 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: see Lafleur getting fired. So the Night and a Half 584 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: I like the under And then the Lions. You know, 585 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: they actually had a pretty good off season on paper 586 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: at a Danny Amundoli kind of get that winning culture 587 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: that uh, Patricia knows. I love t J. Hockenson. They 588 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,959 Speaker 1: added Trey Flowers overpaid, but that's what you gotta do. 589 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: If Stafford, I already liked their receivers even when they 590 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: got rid of Golden Pate. Those two guys made plays. 591 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: The running back they drafted from Auburn last year is 592 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: a good player. Their defense needs to be a lot better. 593 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: But Matt Stafford has proven now his wife I think 594 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 1: had the brain I mean I don't think. I know 595 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 1: I had the brain cancer and she had to go back. 596 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: Hopefully she gets through this just fine. Like to me, 597 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: that is somewhat of a curveball on this. If she 598 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: has any more complications, I can't even imagine being Matt 599 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: Stafford trying to focus on football. But assuming she's fine, 600 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: she makes everything out of it okay, and he's able 601 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: to kind of focus and she's her health is good 602 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 1: to me. The six and a half number on them, 603 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 1: I think they could be a seven or eight win team. 604 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy they get to like eight 605 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: or nine if Patricia is good. Now, I don't have 606 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: any information to assume that, Like, Patricia's gonna be a 607 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: lot better than he was last year. But he was terrible. Now, 608 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,760 Speaker 1: the one thing you'd say is they did bring in 609 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: a lot of New England type guys. So if he's 610 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: screaming New England gospel, you need guys to kind of 611 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: hear and believe in that gospel. Well, Trey Flowers believes 612 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: in it, Danny Amndola believes in it. T J. Hopkinson, 613 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: a dude from Iowa, Like that's basically New England and 614 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: college football Iowa. Obviously, Stafford just a high character guy, 615 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: is gonna listen to anyone. So they I think he 616 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: if we're gonna find out this year if there if 617 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: Patricia has anything else left in the tank, Like, if 618 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 1: they're just terrible this year, he's just gonna get be 619 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: fired and be a terrible Belichick disciple. But the more 620 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: I thought about it, just looking at their roster a 621 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: little bit, and again I'm I'm still a sucker from 622 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: Matt Stafford. I'm not saying he's still a Hall of 623 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: Fame player or anything, but if he's on, they have 624 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 1: weapons for him. This I mean TJ. Hawkins is a 625 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: really good player. That was That was a good pick. Uh, 626 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: It's not crazy to think that they're they're really competitive. 627 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,600 Speaker 1: So the Lions. Actually like the Lions more, and I 628 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: like the Packers. But again I strictly hate the Packers 629 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: because I think their coach is a one and done coach. 630 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 1: July eight, I said it, Matt Lafleur is more like 631 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: Goulda be a one and done coach than he is 632 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: a playoff coach. So Bears Vikings both over nine and 633 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: half and nine. You know the value. I I couldn't 634 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: hate on either taking the taking the Bears basically one 635 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: point seven to one or the Vikings two to one. 636 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: You could do either one to In the division. I 637 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't bet on the Packers or Detroit to win the division, 638 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 1: even though Detroit, I mean, would be the ultimate sleeper. 639 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: Be your classic, the worst the first team every year 640 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 1: we have it right, you get them twelve to one. 641 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: So you put a hundred dollars down, you make twelve hundred. 642 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: You want to get really bad, you put a thousand, 643 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: you make twelve g s the roster. Though, like I said, 644 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: it's a little better than I thought on paper. This 645 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: this division actually sneaky, should be not bad. That's why 646 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,160 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard. Like La Flour has gotta beat 647 00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: Naggie and uh Naggie and Pogano. Minnesota you got Zimmer 648 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: and all of his offensive coaches, and then Detroit you 649 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: got Patricia. This is got weird coaching division after the 650 00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: first two teams, but I'm excited to watch it. Appreciate 651 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: everyone listening. Have a good week, and I'll see you 652 00:32:42,560 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: guys again Friday.