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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. On this episode, we have our friend Chadwick Moore.
Speaker 1: He is a contributing editor at The Spectator. He is
Speaker 1: a New Yorker man who knows a thing about some stuff,
Speaker 1: or stuff about some things. Chad, Good to see you, Hey, Buck,
Speaker 1: great to be here. All right, man, let's let's let's
Speaker 1: get into this. First off, you wrote a book, so
Speaker 1: you've been sent to diversity training. I gotta wonder, first
Speaker 1: of all, have you ever had to go through diversity training?
Speaker 1: Because I have at many levels. Yes, in college, then
Speaker 1: in the federal government, then local government, the NYPD, and
Speaker 1: then you know, a little bit on the corporate side,
Speaker 1: not as much. So tell me about this, Ah, I
Speaker 1: should have interviewed you for the book. Go to a
Speaker 1: four year public university, so that was four years of
Speaker 1: diversity training even you know, however long ago was I graduated.
Speaker 1: But I've you know, I've I've been so removed from
Speaker 1: the corporate world my whole life. That was sort of
Speaker 1: on purpose. I wanted to design my life, so I
Speaker 1: never had to go into an office. So I was
Speaker 1: really fascinated about what was happening in corporate America because
Speaker 1: I think corporate America is sort of interesting and all
Speaker 1: of it and all of its uh mundane actions and
Speaker 1: I uh, but I did go to diversity training when
Speaker 1: I was writing for magazines, other liberal magazines. I went
Speaker 1: to an NYPD diversity training seminar, which I included in
Speaker 1: the book and wrote about that I've had to go
Speaker 1: to one of those because I worked in the Intel division.
Speaker 1: But keep going, oh yeah, yeah, so you know, and
Speaker 1: it was about yeah, that was that was a really
Speaker 1: fun and interesting experience. But also that was that diversity
Speaker 1: training I went to was in twenty fifteen, and that
Speaker 1: was before the Summer of Our Floyd, which, of course,
Speaker 1: across the spectrum, both in private and in the public sector,
Speaker 1: diversity training took a really nasty, hateful, and very racialized
Speaker 1: take after the riots of summer twenty twenty and after
Speaker 1: George Floyd's death. So a lot of that, A lot
Speaker 1: of the stuff in the book is um I was
Speaker 1: talking to people during this time or immediately right afterwards,
Speaker 1: so they were noticing how things had changed, and how
Speaker 1: HR had sort of ramped up the really sort of
Speaker 1: grotesque racial rhetoric that has no place in well anywhere
Speaker 1: into Sidney, but especially on the job and in the
Speaker 1: public sector. So would you find you wrote this book
Speaker 1: your research the book? Thought, right, that's that's I have
Speaker 1: a feeling we're going on that director. Well, it's interesting
Speaker 1: because you know, I like that fun. So I knew
Speaker 1: this would be a fun thing to write about and
Speaker 1: talk about. And I wanted to mock these people. I
Speaker 1: want to talk about the ridiculousness, and I wanted to
Speaker 1: get everyday people's perspectives. So I talked to guys on
Speaker 1: oh Riggs. I talked to police officers, I talked to
Speaker 1: guys in the military, talk to people who work on
Speaker 1: you know, retail sales floors, it directors, so all walks
Speaker 1: of life across the economy, and just sort of wanted
Speaker 1: to know, like, what's your experience with diversity training? What
Speaker 1: do you think is going on here? And a lot
Speaker 1: of people were, you know, we're so um, it's such
Speaker 1: a part of our society now. They at first they
Speaker 1: would sort of say like, why don't we know why
Speaker 1: you care about this? Stuff. You know, here's what happened,
Speaker 1: Here's that I experienced. And the more they thought about it,
Speaker 1: the more they remember, the more they talked about it,
Speaker 1: the kind of more disturbed they got by what they'd
Speaker 1: sort of been forced to sit through. And also it's
Speaker 1: um you know. But my favorite was this guy who
Speaker 1: I called Jeremy. Of course, nobody I interviewed wanted to
Speaker 1: be identified by name because they're all scared of being
Speaker 1: fired from their jobs if they speak about these things.
Speaker 1: But he worked on an oil rig. He works on
Speaker 1: an oil rig off the of the coast of Newfoundland
Speaker 1: and Canada in the Atlantic Ocean. And the first thing
Speaker 1: he says to me is, I you know, I said,
Speaker 1: so tell me about what's happening on the job with
Speaker 1: the diversity training. He said, well, just yesterday, we had
Speaker 1: pink shirt day on the rig and I'm like, excuse me, Yeah,
Speaker 1: all these guys in the oil rig had to wear
Speaker 1: pink shirts for some diversity cause. And this was during COVID,
Speaker 1: so they hand out pink face masks and then they
Speaker 1: had to take pictures off. I'd win in the pink
Speaker 1: shirts to send it to corporate, because corporate, you know,
Speaker 1: it's the oil industry, so of course they're in the
Speaker 1: crosshairs of Canada's liberal government. The Resources Minister of Canada
Speaker 1: is from that areas. He's representative from Newfoundland, so they
Speaker 1: really got to like, you know, cozy up. The way
Speaker 1: that the oil industry in particular, and I documented this
Speaker 1: not just in Canada but around the world. One way
Speaker 1: the oil industry is casing up to liberal governments is
Speaker 1: through this diversity stuff. You know, there's a gay pride
Speaker 1: is very big in the oil industry. For these guys
Speaker 1: on oil rigs. They have to wear gay pride t
Speaker 1: shirts and June and take a photo the Canadian Resource Minister,
Speaker 1: who I just spoke about. This guy's in charge of
Speaker 1: of course handing out all the dueling contracts. He's openly
Speaker 1: gay and it's a big deal for him. So and
Speaker 1: you start looking at things like that. That's just one example.
Speaker 1: You start to see what corporate America gets out of
Speaker 1: all this stuff. You know, we talk about like why
Speaker 1: is corporate America so woke? Obviously, like the CC suite
Speaker 1: executives are probably conservative, they're probably conservative people, but yet
Speaker 1: they let their corporations go so completely blindly woke. And
Speaker 1: then you start looking more into the political favors they're
Speaker 1: trying to give game from it, and it starts to
Speaker 1: make a lot more sense judgment from what I've seen
Speaker 1: in the corporate world, and also in the administrative upper
Speaker 1: echelons and academia, and even when the federal government. You know,
Speaker 1: certainly there are there are people. There are many different
Speaker 1: levels of why the politically correct pressure or wokeness, whatever
Speaker 1: people want to call it, why it is so powerful,
Speaker 1: And one of them is that it's really the only way.
Speaker 1: Like once one person on let's say the board of
Speaker 1: a company is a racial Marxist, let's say, or a
Speaker 1: gender Marxist, a woke person, everybody else on that board
Speaker 1: lives in fear because that person wields a certain power
Speaker 1: that can destroy the reputation and possibly career of everybody
Speaker 1: else around them. Just but that's the power that has
Speaker 1: wielded in these rooms. So yeah, you know, the CEO
Speaker 1: maybe is a capitalist, let's just say, and in some
Speaker 1: of these places that's not even really the case. But
Speaker 1: the CEO may be a capitalist. But if his chief
Speaker 1: marketing officer and certainly chief of diversity decides that that
Speaker 1: CEO is insufficiently devoted to the cause can go to
Speaker 1: the board and say, you guys, either get rid of
Speaker 1: the CEO or you're all racist, bigoted and in on
Speaker 1: it too, right, And it's very hard to get for
Speaker 1: a lot of these places, it's actually hard to get fired.
Speaker 1: The only way you get fired is by upsetting d
Speaker 1: Ei in HR. Yeah, that's exactly right. And if there's
Speaker 1: one thing that top executives never ever want, it's to
Speaker 1: be the subject of a Twitter mob or to have
Speaker 1: their face in the paper, unless it's, of course, some
Speaker 1: fluffy business article praising them for great leadership. So they
Speaker 1: will do anything to avoid that sort of attention. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter if they're what their political persuasions are. But
Speaker 1: you're you're right when you mentioned that one person on
Speaker 1: the board, because that's just sort of a microcosm for
Speaker 1: our society that we're living in anyway, where there's the tiny, tiny, vocal,
Speaker 1: but absolutely terrifying minority that has nothing better to do
Speaker 1: and basically nothing better to live for than to take
Speaker 1: on these causes because it somehow feeds them or makes
Speaker 1: them feel worthwhile or gives their like meaning or whatever.
Speaker 1: And they turned it into absolutely a religion and an
Speaker 1: a belief that they enforced with religious fervor, which of
Speaker 1: course means that anything they do is justified means to
Speaker 1: the ends, and they have no problems whatsoever destroying people's
Speaker 1: lives and going scorched earth for their very strange, new
Speaker 1: fangled social religion. Yeah, I'm fond of reminding people that
Speaker 1: in the Russian Civil War, in the beginning of the
Speaker 1: Soviet Union, you know, there were the Bolsheviks and the Mensheviks.
Speaker 1: The Bolsheviks took on the name majority Arrians essentially, even
Speaker 1: though they never represented any majority of any part of
Speaker 1: the society. Really, in fact, that Mensheviks would have had
Speaker 1: more popular support if anyone actually looked at what was
Speaker 1: going on in the country at the time. But they
Speaker 1: call themselves the majority, and then they were just the
Speaker 1: most committed, ruthless and saying radicals and essentially aid all
Speaker 1: the other fish in the aquarium. And that's that is
Speaker 1: how they you know, that is how this stuff plays out,
Speaker 1: That's how it works, Like it's not. Actually, I think
Speaker 1: people sometimes confuse u political even in the corporate world,
Speaker 1: political power with the agreement or even a majority agreement
Speaker 1: of everybody involved. Like you have a couple of committed
Speaker 1: leftist Marxist types in the upper echelons of a university,
Speaker 1: of a corporation, and they can turn the whole place
Speaker 1: upside down. That's that's the actual reality I think that
Speaker 1: people see. And also the d on the on the
Speaker 1: d E side, you know, they they're hiring and hiring
Speaker 1: based upon these very explicit criteria of you know, gender
Speaker 1: and identity diversity and racial diversity, all these different things. Well,
Speaker 1: that hasn't too right. I mean, the CEOs of these companies,
Speaker 1: whether it's you know, Twitter or Disney, are scared of
Speaker 1: the twenty five year olds, you know, threatening the stage
Speaker 1: some kind of a walkout and create bad press. I
Speaker 1: mean the twenty five year olds who worked for them, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah they are. Yeah, it's it's the it's the insane
Speaker 1: braddy children who are running the asylum. And and you know,
Speaker 1: I remember this back when I was working in liberal
Speaker 1: media and it was you know, the the the older
Speaker 1: editors who were maybe a few years older than me
Speaker 1: were very liberal, but not insane and definitely not woke
Speaker 1: and would certainly support having a more conservative view in
Speaker 1: their publications or at least you know, willing to do that. Um,
Speaker 1: and and things that I would write that were maybe
Speaker 1: more conservative, they defended. But you would see the twenty
Speaker 1: five year olds in the office literally signing online petitions
Speaker 1: against publicly against their employers, saying that they don't support
Speaker 1: this and this is hateful and blah blah blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: and it's just so astounding to me. I could never
Speaker 1: met going against your boss like that, even if you disagree.
Speaker 1: But these young people have absolutely no qualms because they
Speaker 1: know they have the mob to back them up and
Speaker 1: back to um what you're mentioning earlier, not just with Russia.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's as far as I know your your background,
Speaker 1: and this is much better than mind. Almost every time
Speaker 1: there's been some sort of violent, sudden revolutionary Marxist takeover
Speaker 1: of any country, it's always been that tiny percent. Then
Speaker 1: pretends that their majority correct every single time. That is
Speaker 1: you're one hundred. That is the playbook these these extreme
Speaker 1: and they try to collopt other groups who are more moderate.
Speaker 1: In the beginning they say, yeah, this is about the
Speaker 1: people and the workers, and then it's you do what
Speaker 1: we say, we control everything, or relying you up against
Speaker 1: the wall and shoot you. It's always it's always the
Speaker 1: way that this stuff actually goes. But you know, people
Speaker 1: power to the people. Sure, Um, I want to ask
Speaker 1: you chat about the h the activist lgbt Q community
Speaker 1: and the gay community specifically, and how this drag queen
Speaker 1: story Hour for HIDS thing is somehow always being turned
Speaker 1: into the struggle for like by democrats and buy activists.
Speaker 1: They always compare this to like the struggle for gay rights.
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Speaker 1: O L D all right, chat explain this to me
Speaker 1: as a gay man. What is the response of the majority.
Speaker 1: Would you say of your friends who are also from
Speaker 1: the LGBTQ community When you have Joe Biden say you
Speaker 1: know what we have to do about transgender surgery for kids,
Speaker 1: we have to, you know, do a thing like we
Speaker 1: did for marriage equality. And I'm sitting here and I
Speaker 1: just I'm like a thirteen year old having puberty blockers
Speaker 1: and a double mistact to me because she thinks that
Speaker 1: she's actually a man is a very different thing than
Speaker 1: two consenting adults who want to get married. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think whatever, one thing, I think that's pretty straightforward,
Speaker 1: but there's always this effort to connect these things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So the reaction of the gays, you know, publicly is
Speaker 1: obviously petrified silence, because of course they're terrified of saying
Speaker 1: anything that goes against once again, that vocal minority we
Speaker 1: are just discussing. But privately it's horrifying any I mean
Speaker 1: not just any, I mean any normal, sane person, and
Speaker 1: of course there are plenty, not all, but plenty of
Speaker 1: normal saying gay people would look at this on so
Speaker 1: many levels as the disgusting Joseph Mangla level experiment that
Speaker 1: it is on this transgender uti mutilation, mutila mutilating, excuse
Speaker 1: me of kids. One thing though, that is sort of
Speaker 1: particular to the gays that they rarely, almost never would
Speaker 1: say in public, but absolutely one hundred percent say in private,
Speaker 1: is this looks like conversion therapy. It looks like medicalized
Speaker 1: conversion therapy. It looks you see, I think you see
Speaker 1: a lot of gay people saying, like, you know, I
Speaker 1: was maybe a more feminine little boy, or maybe I
Speaker 1: was a more butch little girl, like a little tomboy.
Speaker 1: And what if I had had some Harvard professor parents
Speaker 1: that said, well, you know, you can be a boy,
Speaker 1: you could be the other sex if you actually what
Speaker 1: you might actually be that, how would I reacted? I
Speaker 1: probably would have said, oh, yeah, that sounds great, Yes,
Speaker 1: let's do it. And then absolutely, you know, signed yourself
Speaker 1: up for a life of medical dependency and mutilation and
Speaker 1: sterility and everything that comes with that and psychological care.
Speaker 1: So it's really scary and discussing on that. And you know,
Speaker 1: an I think it's interesting is the country in the
Speaker 1: world that performs the most sex change operations, well the
Speaker 1: at most versus Thailand. The country forms of second sex
Speaker 1: change operations is Iran, where of course it's illegal to
Speaker 1: be gay. They will kill you. And the reason for
Speaker 1: that is the government based for sex change operations because
Speaker 1: they look at it as a cure for your homosexuality.
Speaker 1: So that's interesting when we're thinking about what's happening here
Speaker 1: with the left, But this whole it's it's so bizarre
Speaker 1: because the people who are pushing this stuff, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's mostly trans old transactivists who started too late, so
Speaker 1: they don't quite look the way they think that they
Speaker 1: should look, think that if they had just started as children,
Speaker 1: their lives would be perfect. And then you have straight
Speaker 1: people and particularly straight liberal moms that are really pushing this.
Speaker 1: It's almost like they want a little transgender pet that
Speaker 1: they can show off at cocktail parties. They want to
Speaker 1: feel special and unique and diverse by having this in
Speaker 1: their family. Maybe it's like a kind of Munchausen syndrome
Speaker 1: by proxy. I don't know. But you have these parents
Speaker 1: who are pushing this, and it's so pathetic and so strange.
Speaker 1: And you see these moms taking their kids to drag
Speaker 1: shows like they believe and I truly think that they
Speaker 1: believe it's some sort of civil rights crusade that they're
Speaker 1: embarking on by taking their children and their toddlers to
Speaker 1: see half naked gay clowns dancing around to pop music.
Speaker 1: They almost think like they're marching on Selma or something.
Speaker 1: It's super strange. But the only thing that does same
Speaker 1: with the transcept the drag Queen Story Hour. It hurts
Speaker 1: gay rights. It hurts gay people. You might have very
Speaker 1: conservative people who have no problem with gays. They got
Speaker 1: a gay neighbor or gay hairdresser who knows no problem,
Speaker 1: live and let live attitude. But then you have this
Speaker 1: being forced upon society and this becomes a face of
Speaker 1: gay Now you have to bring your kids to a
Speaker 1: drag show, and no one can support that. It actually
Speaker 1: creates more discord and more hatred. If there is any
Speaker 1: towards the gay community, it's something. It's a truly bizarre
Speaker 1: and sixth situation. I also think it's interesting that, like
Speaker 1: so many arguments made by the left and by the
Speaker 1: activist class of the left, they went from this isn't
Speaker 1: really happening. Why are you so focused on it too?
Speaker 1: Now it's all over the place. I mean, the the
Speaker 1: Attorney General for the State of New York, Latissa James,
Speaker 1: is sponsoring a drag Queen story hour for children. Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: so so we're no, we're way past this. Oh why
Speaker 1: are you talking about it? It's not really a thing. No, no,
Speaker 1: They've made this a thing. And you know, if if
Speaker 1: a normal like day, you know, if a thirty five
Speaker 1: year old woman wanted to wear fish nets and a
Speaker 1: thong and shake her butt in front of five year
Speaker 1: olds literally as we see in these videos and things
Speaker 1: like four or five year olds with their parents, you know, there,
Speaker 1: I would think there was something deeply wrong with that woman.
Speaker 1: A man with like you know is I mean, I
Speaker 1: can't with the fishnets and like you know, the man
Speaker 1: thighs and everything else, shaking is behind in front of
Speaker 1: small children, like this is grotesque. And yet if you
Speaker 1: if you have any you know, Antifa has started showing
Speaker 1: up protecting these these things as well. I mean, this
Speaker 1: has become a central cause for the left. And what's
Speaker 1: amazing is that if you take it all the way
Speaker 1: up the White House level, I mean Joe Biden, mister like,
Speaker 1: I'm a Union guy from Delaware, centrist, moderate Democrat grandpa,
Speaker 1: which is all bullcrap, but that's his whole that was
Speaker 1: the whole branding pitch. He's on board with drag Queen
Speaker 1: Story Hour for kids and for drag shows for children. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I keep finding myself thinking, you know, like, uh,
Speaker 1: like I love drag as adult nightlife entertainment. You know,
Speaker 1: I love uh yeah, love the campiness, and I love
Speaker 1: you know, the rebel try. And I do think that
Speaker 1: you do have some talented drag queens out there. I
Speaker 1: know a lot of straight guys you really enjoy going
Speaker 1: to the cabaret he with ladies that are not really
Speaker 1: much in clothing on and who dance sometimes people to
Speaker 1: dollar bills. But they're adults, right of course. And and
Speaker 1: I just well, I never thought i'd see either of
Speaker 1: these things in my lifetime. This bringing children into it
Speaker 1: is so sick and weird. I try to grapple with like,
Speaker 1: who are these drag queens that are doing this that
Speaker 1: would actually perform a part of children? And the best
Speaker 1: thing I can come up with is, I mean, first,
Speaker 1: if you watch the videos and you know anything about
Speaker 1: drag like, they're not They're not at the top of
Speaker 1: the totem pole when it comes to talent. They're kind
Speaker 1: of like the lower like booker drag queens. So there's
Speaker 1: that they're probably really poor. They're probably like, oh, I
Speaker 1: need fifty bucks and these uh, this library is gonna
Speaker 1: pay me to show up. They're probably extremely low IQ
Speaker 1: they're not very smart people. But also in their mind,
Speaker 1: I can't I'm going to give the benefit of the
Speaker 1: doubt and say that they're not all pedophiles, and I
Speaker 1: know that a lot in the right. It's this whole
Speaker 1: Rhetorican's grooming, which is, you know, a very real thing.
Speaker 1: Especially we see a lot of teachers. I have to
Speaker 1: believe that they're not all pedophiles, and they're just sort
Speaker 1: of stupid and poor. And also I I would think
Speaker 1: that they have some thing in the back of their mind.
Speaker 1: They think that there's some gay kid in the room
Speaker 1: that's going to see them and then feel more comfortable,
Speaker 1: So I think they're doing some sort of good service.
Speaker 1: Or they also justify it on the grounds of well,
Speaker 1: I'm sort of dressed like Beyonce would be dressed, and
Speaker 1: they probably see Beyonce doing this on TV, so it's fine.
Speaker 1: That doesn't excuse any of it. It's grotesque and children
Speaker 1: shouldn't even be seeing Beyonce doing that. But I struggle
Speaker 1: to understand. I struggled understand why anyone would sign up
Speaker 1: to perform for children in that manner. I get the
Speaker 1: parents who are doing this, and yeah, we haven't even
Speaker 1: them but I understand their psychology and I think they're
Speaker 1: pathetic for me. But if the if the response to
Speaker 1: this was, you know, from from the activists and the
Speaker 1: left and whatever, was a are fine, you know, no
Speaker 1: more with the kids. We're just gonna do. No one's
Speaker 1: complaining about drag shows for adults. It's like not even
Speaker 1: a thing. And they like to pretend that it's anti
Speaker 1: LGBTQ and anti trans anty. There is nobody on the
Speaker 1: right who is making noise because we weren't making noise
Speaker 1: about drag show, you know, the last twenty years. Nobody cares. Fine,
Speaker 1: some people like it, some people go to it. That's fine.
Speaker 1: They're adults for children. We're talking about for kids. And
Speaker 1: what's interesting is that they double down on it. You know,
Speaker 1: even when now it has been called out, they're saying, no,
Speaker 1: this is I mean the attorney general for New York State, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not some fringe political figure. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's it's really it's it's crazy. What's what's going on? Um?
Speaker 1: And I think that go ahead? Uh no, well I was,
Speaker 1: I was. Uh no, no, I think I've lost my
Speaker 1: show thought. Um they oh oh yeah, yeah, Well in
Speaker 1: the same Vein. Also, they absolutely love it. They absolutely
Speaker 1: love it because they can cry hatred and oppression. You know.
Speaker 1: Now it's um you know, you see like what's that
Speaker 1: show Rupulse Drag Race. So I haven't watched a long time,
Speaker 1: but you know all their posts like drag is under
Speaker 1: attack now in this country. It's like, no, it's not.
Speaker 1: It's just the children. But they love this because they
Speaker 1: desperately need fundraising. They desperately need uh things to uh to.
Speaker 1: They need they need issues, they need things that they
Speaker 1: can say and they can play victims status. And what
Speaker 1: I was gonna say is, you know, the the same
Speaker 1: the same thing kind of happens with the books that
Speaker 1: are in some of the kids libraries. They always say
Speaker 1: the Rohn de Santists, for example in Florida, is banning books.
Speaker 1: That's just a lie. It would be like saying we're
Speaker 1: trying to talk about banning drag. No one's trying to
Speaker 1: ban drag shows. It's about the appropriateness of a kind
Speaker 1: of content for children. And did you see that he
Speaker 1: did a press It was brilliant. Rohnd de Santis did
Speaker 1: a press conference. They started to put up on the
Speaker 1: screen photos of some of the books that were that
Speaker 1: were being given to these kids from their school sharing
Speaker 1: you know, sharing wall library whatever they have, and it
Speaker 1: was so pornographic that the news cameras had to turn off.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh oh. The Left crying about book burning
Speaker 1: is my favorite thing ever. There's suddenly care about speech
Speaker 1: when it's u pernup pornographic graphic novels for five years old.
Speaker 1: Oh now they care about speech. But don't you dare
Speaker 1: crack a joke on Twitter, because then you deserve what
Speaker 1: you're getting as well as to be fired from your job.
Speaker 1: Just wonderful, Just wonderful. And I remember the left. This
Speaker 1: whole recent spade of banning books and schools started with
Speaker 1: the left. I believe it. It It was books like Huck
Speaker 1: Finn and these American classics that use words that are
Speaker 1: now outdated well now, and now they're editing them after
Speaker 1: the fact, as you know, they're going back. They're changing,
Speaker 1: real dull, they're changing. They're changing Samuel Clemens, Mark Twain,
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Speaker 1: a second. Here, Yeah, where where are you being? Buddy?
Speaker 1: You're not You're not really You're not really throwing down anymore.
Speaker 1: What's going on? I'm not man, you know what I mean? Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm buokley. I write another book, which has
Speaker 1: been insane. I can't. I don't think I'm really talk
Speaker 1: about what it's about. But um but at the same time,
Speaker 1: I've just been so burned out on social media. You know.
Speaker 1: I realized Buck, I'll tell you what. I've realized. I'm
Speaker 1: almost forty, and I realized that I never really enjoyed it,
Speaker 1: and I always felt like I just really had to
Speaker 1: be honest. Also, I'm an emotional Twitter, so like, I
Speaker 1: just bang things out when I'm feeling at the moment,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna point where I'm like, I don't give
Speaker 1: a shit and I oh, sorry, I look like I
Speaker 1: can cost on here. I don't care and you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I don't wanna read these replies whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm also kind of, um, I'm taking I'm taking the
Speaker 1: approach of embracing boomer media. I just love books and
Speaker 1: magazines and TV and radio. I mean, what can I say,
Speaker 1: I'm doubling down on old media, That's what I'm thinking.
Speaker 1: And social it's it's I mean, Elon Musk obviously has
Speaker 1: done a better service in this country than any politician has,
Speaker 1: and I don't know how many years by purchasing Twitter,
Speaker 1: if he stands by everything that's that he's been doing,
Speaker 1: even just exposing that it was a total that it
Speaker 1: was a totally rigged game, that it was this playground
Speaker 1: of left wing ideological bias always and at all times. Um.
Speaker 1: But I also feel like there are so many of
Speaker 1: these platforms now and everyone's just it's you're it's all,
Speaker 1: You're all sort of you know, you're disaggregated. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're it's just like, what are you gonna be posting
Speaker 1: on TikTok? This is why people tell me, like, you
Speaker 1: should post more on Instagram. I'm like, what I'm doing
Speaker 1: three hours of radio a day. I gotta prep for
Speaker 1: that show. You know, I'm you know, I'm writing a
Speaker 1: book actually, so I can't talk about it either. But
Speaker 1: I got a book underway, I got things. I'm you know,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be taking photos of what my breakfast like,
Speaker 1: I'm not delusual. I'm not saying you're taking all these
Speaker 1: like selfies, like, hey, everybody like check me out? So Instagram, TikTok, snapchat. Facebook.
Speaker 1: By the way, what is Facebook anymore? I haven't been
Speaker 1: on my personal Facebook account in like six years at
Speaker 1: this point. Oh yeah, I mean, who's still on there?
Speaker 1: I have to go on there occasionally for a client
Speaker 1: and like check the Facebook, and I'm just like, what
Speaker 1: is going on here? Who even runs? Who's looking at
Speaker 1: this stuff? It's so bizarre, Just well, what do you
Speaker 1: think happens? I mean, do you think it's Are we
Speaker 1: gonna have more of a consolidation in It's funny because
Speaker 1: they keep saying they're gonna ban TikTok, this is what
Speaker 1: they're always talking about. I don't understand. I feel like
Speaker 1: we should be able to figure out a way where
Speaker 1: the data is stored on US servers. The Chinese don't
Speaker 1: have access to it, you know, full stop, And there's
Speaker 1: full transparency. Like everyone keeps saying, oh, they're gonna program
Speaker 1: our kids in Beijing's gonna see all this, And I'm like, uh,
Speaker 1: do you guys know what our kids are being programmed
Speaker 1: with anyway? I mean, like, I just you know, I
Speaker 1: think that I don't really see the argument if you
Speaker 1: can create some stop gap where yeah, I mean, we
Speaker 1: don't want all this data sitting on servers in Beijing
Speaker 1: or whatever. It would be very easy if it was
Speaker 1: on US servers to know if Chinese were accessing this
Speaker 1: in any meaningful way. But I think there's like one
Speaker 1: hundred million people on TikTok or something now in the
Speaker 1: in the US. I mean there's some crazy high number,
Speaker 1: much higher than I thought. Young people are all on it,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get rid of it. And I'm sitting
Speaker 1: here saying, so what what is that? What's left at
Speaker 1: that point? I mean, Twitter's got some problems. I love
Speaker 1: what Elon's trying to do, but it's just technologically got
Speaker 1: issues right now. I don't know. I mean I think
Speaker 1: we're like, like, is TikTok just going to disappear overnight?
Speaker 1: The way that um, I don't snapchat. Snapchat still a thing.
Speaker 1: Snapchat is still a thing. I didn't even know a
Speaker 1: Snapchat was still a thing, but I remember it was
Speaker 1: d thing. I always knew Snapchat was going to fall
Speaker 1: apart because this whole thing about like putting like cat
Speaker 1: ears on yourself once you're older. By the way I
Speaker 1: use this even but even back when I was a
Speaker 1: single man, you know, and you would see like people's
Speaker 1: on their Instagram that their photos and some of them
Speaker 1: would use their Snapchat stuff on it, you know, where
Speaker 1: they have like the you know, the dog nose or
Speaker 1: the cat ears or whatever. I'm like, you're I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're twenty eight, twenty nine years You're you're out. You know,
Speaker 1: you're out of the water. Like yeah, if you're twelve
Speaker 1: years old, you could have your little cat filter from Snapchat,
Speaker 1: but you know, once you get to be an adults.
Speaker 1: So I always thought that Snapchat was was preposterous. And
Speaker 1: all the other thing too is I was like, hey,
Speaker 1: this it all disappears. It's the Internet. It doesn't disappear.
Speaker 1: It goes somewhere. They have whatever you're sending and it
Speaker 1: goes somewhere. So that was the other part of this.
Speaker 1: It was like, oh, people were like you can just
Speaker 1: send whatever photos I want to be like, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, yeah, Oh don't worry. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: totally gone. No one's story somewhere, So yeah, I know,
Speaker 1: I just I wonder, you know, I feel like we've
Speaker 1: had in some ways, it's almost like we finally broke
Speaker 1: into the party here. You know, we finally got past
Speaker 1: the bouncers for social media on the right after being
Speaker 1: really shut out for the last few years. And this
Speaker 1: party is looking kind of dead right now. It's not
Speaker 1: a lot going on. The kegs are running dry, you know,
Speaker 1: they've switched from a live band to like the you know,
Speaker 1: the schlumpy DJ. It's not good, it's true. And maybe
Speaker 1: a part of that is that the left is more
Speaker 1: they're not as fun right now because they're well, they're
Speaker 1: subdued because they got their guy in office. But also
Speaker 1: they're seeing how crazy and in saying everything is, so
Speaker 1: they don't have that fervor they did do the Trump years,
Speaker 1: which made it so fun to torment them and see
Speaker 1: what sort of crazy things they are saying. Maybe if
Speaker 1: we have a Republican president after this one, then the
Speaker 1: left will get newly entertaining and social media. But did
Speaker 1: you get some Trump retweets back in the day. No,
Speaker 1: I never got a Trump reach. I was so upset
Speaker 1: by that. So I'll just tell you this was the
Speaker 1: I did. There was I got six Trump retweets in
Speaker 1: a row ups. So it was like it was like
Speaker 1: my Trump's was just buck sex that And and it
Speaker 1: was funny because I remember I got like weird text
Speaker 1: messages from people who I don't know from work anymore,
Speaker 1: you know, from from media world anymore or whatever, like
Speaker 1: high school classmates were like, hey, man, like, I guess
Speaker 1: the big guy really, like you know, I'm just seeing here,
Speaker 1: was like, what is this? But the best part of
Speaker 1: it was that in that was the high point of
Speaker 1: Twitter in a lot of ways, even though the Left
Speaker 1: was cheating and doing all kinds of stuff and they
Speaker 1: used it to steal the election. And that's a whole
Speaker 1: other conversation, but one of the high points of it
Speaker 1: was that if you got in the Trump even if
Speaker 1: you didn't get a retweet from him, but if you
Speaker 1: just kind of got into that like Trump hashtag world,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, some like a third tier actor
Speaker 1: from like nineteen ninety four that you saw in some
Speaker 1: b action movie would be like talking smack to you.
Speaker 1: You're like wait, you like like, yeah, how did this happen?
Speaker 1: Like the guy from one of the guys from one
Speaker 1: of those SVU shows was like you like maybe if
Speaker 1: you actually loved your country bub And I'm like wait,
Speaker 1: it's like aren't you like aren't you like you know
Speaker 1: detective you know mcicoli or something like what like how
Speaker 1: did this happen? I remember when I got like a
Speaker 1: retweet or a follow from not so not not a
Speaker 1: mean one, but a nice from Kato Kalin. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: j love my Twitter. Kato Kalin amazing, Yeah dude, I had.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's obviously well established in conservative circles,
Speaker 1: but through Twitter, I got to know, um, Kevin Sorbo
Speaker 1: because I used to love the Hercules Legendary Journey shows
Speaker 1: when I was when I was a kid, I thought
Speaker 1: that was because I love Greek mythology. Um. Some other
Speaker 1: fun ones, like other Twitter people. I mean James Woods.
Speaker 1: James Woods is one of the only people who on Twitter.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, I'm agreed with all the tweets,
Speaker 1: but sometimes I'm kind of like, oh, that's like a
Speaker 1: that's like a curb stump like ah, like it hurts
Speaker 1: to watch that, you know. You know, they have some
Speaker 1: of those videos where like a you know, like a
Speaker 1: gymnast will fall a certain way or something and they
Speaker 1: just like and you're just or even more skaters, a
Speaker 1: skater will you know, hit the rail and you just
Speaker 1: like those gym videos where they break an arm like
Speaker 1: mid curl like some of the James Woods tweets against
Speaker 1: the Libs. I just felt bad for the Libs. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, he he goes, he went, he
Speaker 1: went rough in the paint like that's a guy that
Speaker 1: threw some elbows back in the day. So anyway, Twitter
Speaker 1: so much talent on Twitter. There's so many people were
Speaker 1: so good at Twitter. That is an amazing thing. Definitely,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I hope they'll bring it
Speaker 1: back and it gets to be fun like it like
Speaker 1: it used to be. It's got all these problems now,
Speaker 1: but we'll see. But Chadwick will come back if it's fun,
Speaker 1: maybe he'll make it fun. Where should everybody go to
Speaker 1: find your book? Unfortunately Amazon. I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people are problem with that, but that's where it is.
Speaker 1: It wasn't my decision, so you go to Amazon, so
Speaker 1: you've been sent to diversity training. You can buy my
Speaker 1: columns at spectatorworld dot com or all Things Me on
Speaker 1: my website chabickmore dot com. Chadwick, you're a good man.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you again soon. Thanks so much. You're
Speaker 1: the best. Fuck. Thank you.