1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: When the game asked you to do something, you do it. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 1: And I think that's a big part of what the 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Rangers hope Brett Boone's messaging can can get across to 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: these players. 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: Dallas Morning News beat writer Evin Grant with us right 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,599 Speaker 2: now talking Rangers ball, leading FT in writer appearances. Evan, 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: great to have you on. I mean, this is good timing. 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: Here with you guys, except for AJ, who didn't offer 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: to buy me any food in San Francisco. But that's 10 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: all right. Listen, it's been a week here. 11 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 3: You weren't there either, Evan. 12 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 4: You weren't there either. It's like Boston, you weren't there. 13 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 4: So how do you even know? If I was there, I. 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 3: Might have done it. 15 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 5: I might not even have been there. 16 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: I saw you in the clubhouse and I said, Aj, 17 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 1: is this the first time you've ever done a game 18 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: with two teams that got rid of you? And you 19 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: said no, I've done plenty of those games before. 20 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: That's true, good lie. That's how memorable you are, Evan 21 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: to me. 22 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: At least we want to talk about this Rangers offense 23 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 1: a little bit. 24 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Boone specifically, I want to start there. We'll do 25 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: the rest. But how shocked, were you when you saw 26 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 2: that he was going to be the guy to try 27 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 2: and lead the offense back here? 28 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,039 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, when when they decided they were going 29 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: to change off of Donnie Ecker, the first thing I 30 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: started looking for was obviously major league hitting coaches with experience, 31 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,400 Speaker 1: who had big league playing experience, because I thought one 32 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: thing that the Rangers were gonna want was an experienced 33 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: big league voice in the in the clubhouse. And I 34 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: looked up some guys and guys that had connections with 35 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 1: either Bruce Bochi or Chris Young, and there's a lot 36 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: of them, but Brett Boone didn't cross my mind, just 37 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: because Brett has never coached. That said, you know, when 38 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: you look at all the boxes that I think the 39 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,679 Speaker 1: Rangers wanted to check here, an experienced major league player, 40 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: a guy who brings a little bit of an edge, 41 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: a guy who does have some kind of connection to 42 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: Bochie and and Chris Uh. Brett checks all of those. 43 00:01:56,920 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: And he happened to have a really happenstance kind of 44 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: meeting at a uc usc Us UCLA baseball game with 45 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 1: Michael Young over the weekend and they were just talking 46 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: baseball and we weren't doing a job interview or anything 47 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: like that. But you know, Brett said, hey, make make 48 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: sure the boat and see why I know that I'm 49 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: thinking about him and that you know, good luck for 50 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: you to you guys. The rest of the way, Michael 51 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: gave the greetings and it certainly got Chris Young's mind moving. 52 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: And next thing, you know, twenty four hours later, they've 53 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: got Brett Boone on staff. 54 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 6: Hey, I want to talk about the you know, you 55 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 6: go back to the World Series and I'm looking at 56 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 6: the roster at Duley's Garcia. Having Carter was you know, 57 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 6: was a huge spark. You know, Robbie Grossman had a 58 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 6: little bit of edge. Veteran guy, Alstin Hedges. We know 59 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 6: what type of clubhouse guy he is. 60 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 5: Nathaniel Lowe the last couple of years. 61 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 6: You know, you could talk about injuries, you can talk 62 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 6: about you know, you know, lack of this and that. 63 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 6: But when I watch even right now, I see a 64 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 6: lack of fire and I and I you know, when 65 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 6: I watched this team, it's like, you know, we know 66 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 6: Corey Seer is a naturally laid back guy. Mark you 67 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 6: Seema kind of similar as well. You know, you probably 68 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,079 Speaker 6: gonna have a little bit of the language trans barrier 69 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 6: when you talk about a dolees like, I just wonder, 70 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 6: you know, sometimes it isn't the performance, but. 71 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 5: Who's the who's the guy, who's the heartbeat? 72 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 3: Like? 73 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 5: What you know? Do have they lost that fire in 74 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 5: your eyes? 75 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,639 Speaker 1: Hey, Kim, I think you raise a great point, right. 76 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: I think when a team is winning in scoring runs 77 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: and they're all business like the Rangers were in twenty 78 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: twenty three, that's the compliment. Hey, this team is all business, 79 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: doesn't get too high, doesn't get too low when you're 80 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: not scoring runs, and you don't see that kind of 81 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: emotional flare. Uh, it does raise that question do they 82 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: lack fire? Do they lack edge? And I do think 83 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: internally the Rangers thought that this is a team, not 84 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: that it's a dull team in any way, not that 85 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: it's not dedicated or that it doesn't try. But I 86 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: do think that they felt like there was a little 87 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: bit of edge missing in the clubhouse. Some of that 88 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: was because some of the guys, the younger players that 89 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: have that ability to bring edge don't have a ton 90 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: of experience yet. Some of that is because guys who 91 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: do have the ability to bring the edge on the 92 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: field like Garcia, you know, are struggling, and so I 93 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: think in Brett Boone, they get a guy. Look, we 94 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: all know who Brett Boone is, and I think one 95 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: thing that Brett said yesterday in his introduction to the 96 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: team that look, I'm I'm in listen mode right now, 97 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: which is not my four K. Brett's a cocky guy. 98 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: He has a lot of opinions. He's got opinions that 99 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: he shared on his podcast. 100 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 3: But I think it's. 101 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: Really important for him to come in be willing to 102 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: listen to these guys talk baseball with them. I think 103 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 1: he and Jack Peterson immediately bonded, and I think that 104 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 1: element of it really helps inside the clubhouse. And eventually, 105 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: I think Brett's gonna be the guy if somebody needs 106 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 1: to challenge a hitter. I think Brett's gonna be more 107 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: than willing to do that when need be. But right now, 108 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: it's important to gain these guys trust. You get immediate 109 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: cachet with your experience, but you've also got to get 110 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: the trust that these guys feel like, Okay, this new guy, 111 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: we don't know him very well, but we trust him 112 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: all right. 113 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 3: Evan a loss this some ma of these guys know 114 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 3: who Brett Boone is. 115 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: It's a good question, AJ. You know, because I'm not 116 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: in Boston, so I didn't ask these guys if they 117 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: know who Brett Wood. 118 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: That's a great question. That's a great point. 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Remember because for the last about seven 161 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 4: eight nine years we've gone away from players, and we're like, oh, analytics, analytics, analytics, 162 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 4: And now it's kind of shifting a little bit back 163 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 4: to where, hey, we not only do we need the analytics, 164 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 4: but we need somebody that actually stood in the box 165 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 4: or on the mound and can relate the analytics to players, 166 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 4: because I can get a guy that graduated college to 167 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 4: give me numbers, but they can't tell me how to 168 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 4: use them as a player. And I'm going, if I'm 169 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 4: a player, I'm going, man, I really need somebody that 170 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 4: can translate this for me. 171 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think I'm really going to regret my 172 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: saying this, AJ, but you pretty much nailed it there. 173 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: I think that you've got to have a balance. You know, 174 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: the analytics are more advanced than ever before the art 175 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: of hitting is more difficult than it ever before than 176 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: it has ever been before. Pitchers control all the action, 177 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: and with pitch design and more spin and more velocity, 178 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: they've got a bigger edge than they've ever had. And 179 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: so the best thing that a hitter can do going 180 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: to the plate is have as few thoughts as possible. 181 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: And I do think that sometimes with analytics, and this 182 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: is not to say this is not a criticism of 183 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: Donnie Ecker individually or anybody on the Rangers staff. But 184 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: I do think that sometimes you know, when you've got 185 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: such a heavy approach on analytics, some of the other 186 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: things get a little bit either overlooked or you put 187 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 1: too many thoughts in your guy's head going to the plate. 188 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 1: And I think that with Brent coming in here, you 189 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: know you've got to guys. They've kept the majority of 190 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 1: the hitting staff together, justin Veeley, who is a big 191 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: biomechanics guy and a big analytics guy, and Seth Connor, 192 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: who is similar. They've kept the staff together pretty much. 193 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: But I think they felt like they needed a little 194 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 1: bit of a countermeasure of a guy who had big 195 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: league experience, who has lived through those situations and who 196 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 1: can speak kind of at a level that hitters need 197 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: to understand in game. Let me just look to say 198 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: this about the Rangers, right, you look at the top 199 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: of the organization, Chris Young fourteen years in the big 200 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: leagues as a pitcher. He lived everything that a pitcher 201 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: could do. He's a very smart guy. He's an IVY 202 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: League graduate. He is big into analytics, but he's also 203 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: lived the life of a pro baseball player. You look 204 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: at Mike Maddox, who heads up the pitching staff, and 205 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: you've got a guy in Dave Bush, it's very big 206 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: on pitch design, and who also pitched in the big leagues. 207 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: And you've got a guy in Jordan Tiegs who worked 208 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 1: with their young pitchers. And there's a good mesh of 209 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 1: different philosophies there. And I think sometimes in this game 210 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: we tend to go too hard to one direction, and 211 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: then of course the pendulum swings back the other way. 212 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: And I think what we're seeing with the Rangers move 213 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: is that they feel like they've got really good information, 214 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: but they also need some real life experience in a 215 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: little bit more edge. And if you're gonna ask players 216 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: to have edge, who better to do it than somebody 217 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 1: who has actually been in the big leagues and played 218 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: with an edge. 219 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 3: Booney Brett Boone played with an edge. No way, I 220 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: don't remember that. I barely I don't remember who he was, Evan, 221 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 3: I barely played against him. Uh well, that thing is 222 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 3: one of the podcast was here. 223 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 4: I've been on his podcast. I've done this podcast. It 224 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 4: took it was like a two hour interview. It was unbelievable. 225 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 5: I love. 226 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 4: I listen, I've known I've known Boon, I've known Brett 227 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 4: for twenty plus years. So I love Brett. I saw 228 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 4: him this year in San Diego. He's awesome. He's one 229 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 4: of my favorite people. He makes me laugh every time 230 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 4: I see him. So I love Brett. Also, I just 231 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 4: want you said this, and I just want to go 232 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 4: with this before I get into my next part on this. 233 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 4: Just because you go to an IVY League school, Evan, 234 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 4: it doesn't make you smart. Okay, I'm just gonna say that. 235 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 4: You know you said that. It doesn't make you smart. 236 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 4: Just it's cool you got a degree. 237 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 3: Awesome. I don't. But all right now you know I'm right. 238 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 3: I've made you speak that guy. 239 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: All right for you today and I'm not bringing it in. 240 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: National champions What can I say? Basketball school swish? 241 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: Uh? 242 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: All right? 243 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 4: So you mentioned something though about the hitting side and 244 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 4: Brett Boone and how it's kind of switched over. Here's 245 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 4: my question, and I ask people this all the time. 246 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: What's more important when you get to the major leagues. 247 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 4: You usually have pretty good mechanics of your swing, right, 248 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 4: And I think Cam would agree with me on this. 249 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 4: Is it more important to have a guy talk to 250 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 4: you about approach, meaning this guy throws these pitches, how 251 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 4: are we going to combat it? Or is it better 252 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 4: to have a guy that can tell you where to 253 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 4: hold your hands? Cause to me, like I could figure 254 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 4: this stuff out where to go with my hands, I 255 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 4: needed a guy that we could talk about approach and hey, 256 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 4: I'm gonna this is the pitch I need to look for, 257 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 4: and this is how I can hit this pitch with 258 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 4: my swing. To me, that was a more important factor. 259 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 4: I think Cam would agree, but I don't know absolutely. 260 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:57,719 Speaker 1: Here's here's the one thing I would say to both 261 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: of you guys on that, and that is look, and 262 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to make anybody feel like they're old, 263 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: but you look at this generation of players and they 264 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: have spent so much time with individual hitting coaches and gurus, 265 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: and that they look to those guys often for answers 266 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: on everything. So I do think that it's become kind 267 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 1: of a necessary part of the game and that that's 268 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,599 Speaker 1: the way that a younger player now kind of communicates. 269 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: But I also think what's gotten negated is and look, 270 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: Brett's a great example of this. Who was Brett's mentor 271 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: as a hitter in a lot of ways. Edgar Martinez. 272 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: Edgar was a great hitter, and Edgar was also an 273 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: unselfish hitter who knew if a runner needed to be moved, 274 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: he was going to move a runner. It didn't mean 275 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 1: he was going to give himself up, but he was 276 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: going to do what he needed to do in that 277 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: back to make sure that a runner at least moved. 278 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: That he was going to optimize the ability to keep 279 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 1: the run scoring opportunity in place. And I think that's 280 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: something that the Rangers have not done very will the 281 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,480 Speaker 1: last two years, is that they have spent a lot 282 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: of time trying to build a slugging team. And look, 283 00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: Bruce Bochi and Chris Young talked about slugging day in 284 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: and day out in spring training, and I think the 285 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: real world application is sometimes you're gonna have to when 286 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: your slugger's going to slump, if they're not really disciplined 287 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: hitters at the plate, you're gonna have to find other 288 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 1: ways to score runs. And when the game asks you. 289 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: Ron Washington used to say this all the time. He 290 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: probably said it to you aj. You know, when the 291 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: game asks you to do something, you do it. And 292 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 1: I think that's a big part of what the Rangers 293 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: hope Brett Boone's messaging can can get across to these 294 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: these players. 295 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but haven't we lost that? Haven't we lost that? 296 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 3: I'll ask Cam too, I'll bring Cam in on this. 297 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 3: Haven't we lost that? 298 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 5: Though? 299 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 4: Because my kids in high school, Okay, my son's in 300 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 4: high school, and I have that conversation with them all 301 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 4: the time. Senior in high school, you play to the scoreboard. 302 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 4: The scoreboard tells you what your about needs to be. 303 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 4: I need to get on base, I need to try 304 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 4: to drive the guy in. I need to get the 305 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 4: guy from second to third with no outs, get him 306 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 4: to third went out, so the guy behind me can 307 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 4: drive him in. 308 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: Right. But with the analytics, and again I believe in analytics. 309 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: I do. 310 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 4: I don't want people to think I don't believe in analytics. 311 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 4: But what I'm saying is there's a time in a 312 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 4: place to where you know what paulk and Erico is 313 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 4: one of the best hitters I ever played with, and 314 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 4: he had a bats where he totally gave himself up 315 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 4: guy on second, no out's late in the game, and 316 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 4: you could see it. He just hit a weak round 317 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 4: ball a second the guy run the third next guy 318 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 4: drove him in. We win the game by a run. 319 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 4: He would do it right, but he also hit four 320 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 4: hundred plus homers and was one of the best hitters 321 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 4: I ever seen. But there's a time in a place. 322 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 4: We had this conversation earlier, Evan, Joey Vado, and Wan Sota. 323 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 4: We're talking about how many walks they have. Right, there's 324 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 4: a time for those guys. There's a runner on third 325 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 4: and one out. I want one Soto's bat the ball 326 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 4: skills to put the bat on the ball and drive 327 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 4: the guy in right instead of being like, oh, it's 328 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 4: a half inch outside. I can't swing at that because 329 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 4: I mu't walk, but I'll make it out because I 330 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 4: hit a you know, a ground ball a second. 331 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: And drive the run in. 332 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 4: To me, there has to be a combination of the 333 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 4: analytics and the hitting. And that's why I'm for the 334 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 4: sh shift of former players. 335 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 3: Coming in and explaining. 336 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 6: And I don't want to cut Evan off, but I 337 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 6: want to add on to that point, AJ, because you're 338 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 6: absolutely right. And what's happened is when we say analytics, 339 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 6: guys like myself, guys like AJ, analytics is only information 340 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 6: for all the people out there who hear the words 341 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 6: analytics and they think it's like some intricate being or theme. 342 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 6: It's just information. And what AJ is saying is you 343 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 6: can have your hands here or your hands there, or 344 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 6: your foot here or your foot there, but at the 345 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 6: end of the day, you have to have a plan. 346 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 5: The way you set up isn't gonna get you a hit. 347 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 6: If you don't have a great plan, if you don't 348 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 6: know what you do well, if you you know, can't 349 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 6: move the ball right. What I love about what AJ 350 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 6: said is me and AJ we're both We are both 351 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 6: in heart places now raising young men who love the game, 352 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 6: and we get caught up in a hard place where 353 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 6: we want to teach them. You learn how to hit, 354 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 6: you'll slug later, right, become a good hitter. First word, 355 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 6: now it's backwards. It slug slug, slug, fluck slug. So 356 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 6: you have this generation and even now this window of 357 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 6: younger guys, even guys in the game, that it's they 358 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 6: got told it was okay to swing and miss, and 359 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 6: it's good until your team starts losing, until you can't 360 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 6: manufacture runs, until you don't know now, then all of 361 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 6: a sudden, it's a problem. So you know, for me, 362 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 6: I think this move, this move to bring Boone in was, 363 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 6: like you said, Evan, let's go get some guy who's 364 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 6: done it, who has experience, who can maybe give us 365 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 6: a better approach, because hey, like I can guarantee you 366 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 6: they didn't win that World Series. So y'all for analytic information, 367 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,040 Speaker 6: it was guys going out there competing having a team approach. 368 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 5: I'm gonna be a bastard in the box. 369 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 6: I'm gonna do whatever I can to have a long 370 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 6: quality at bad, to try to get into the bullpen, 371 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 6: to try to make this really tough throughout a series. 372 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 5: And those are the things that are being lost in 373 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 5: the game, you know what I mean. 374 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 6: So I love what both of you guys are saying, 375 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 6: and I love and that's why I continue to say. 376 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 5: I love what the Rangers are doing. 377 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 6: And I love guys like Chris Young, the Buster posies 378 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 6: who are now getting these opportunities, who have been in 379 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 6: these these moments in the and are these players shoes 380 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 6: and really knows that it's bigger than just spat speed 381 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 6: and launch angle and all. 382 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 5: This other crap that doesn't win you baseball games. So 383 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 5: I love what they're. 384 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: Doing and Karen, I gotta agree with both you guys 385 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: on this and and the way it was both has 386 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: been best explained to me is is look at the 387 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: greater environment now right, look at YouTube or look at 388 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:27,160 Speaker 1: social media, and how many guys are out there touting 389 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,360 Speaker 1: swing swing, swing swing, and it's all about individual swings. 390 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: It's about getting off your best swing. Yeah, that's great, 391 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: But what I've seen from the Rangers really going back 392 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: almost a decade now, is I've seen guys swings be 393 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 1: very much on one plane and they can't adjust the 394 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: way it feels to me, and I don't want to 395 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: make myself sound like, you know, old crotchety guy, but 396 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: it feels like players swings have not been quite as 397 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: adjustable or flexible to the moment as they once were. 398 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's the kind of thing we're talking 399 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: about here. Is analytics and metrics and process stats. They 400 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: are all important tools, but you also have to be 401 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 1: self aware, and there is not as much attention spent 402 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: on self awareness and discipline as that's not considered a 403 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: tool as raw power is considered a tool. 404 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 3: Evan, let me ask you this and Cam. 405 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 4: Can we bring in Cam again on this too, because 406 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,879 Speaker 4: I know Cam coaches young kids and he has a team. 407 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 4: Here's my thing, Cam, again, I have a senior in 408 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,280 Speaker 4: high school. We have kids on our team that could 409 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 4: be drafted and possibly signed. We have scouts in every 410 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 4: single game, and I know some of them and I 411 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,320 Speaker 4: talk to some of them. The number one thing that 412 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 4: a lot of the scouts want to see out of 413 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,360 Speaker 4: high school hitters is what you just said, evan adjustability, 414 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 4: like not a one plane swing. 415 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 3: Right. 416 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,399 Speaker 4: The guys who get drafted high can use their hands 417 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 4: and make an adjustment to where like, oh I'm a 418 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 4: little bit fooled. Oh I can flip the ball here, 419 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 4: I can foul it off and live to fight another pitch. 420 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 4: So to me, what you're talking about is one of 421 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 4: the most important things. 422 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: Is that what they want to see, though, I mean 423 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: my question the things that I keep hearing about, you 424 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 1: know when scattering reports that I read are all about 425 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: raw tools. Raw you know, his hit tool or his 426 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 1: raw power tool. And I do think that it is 427 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: important that guys get a better grasp of both discipline, 428 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: approach at the plate and situational awareness. 429 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 3: Agreed. 430 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 4: Agreed, you got to be able to do all of this. 431 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 4: But the guys, I know this. The guys listen. You 432 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 4: can have raw power, but you can be pitched to right. 433 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,200 Speaker 4: But if you have adjustability, if you have both, then 434 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 4: you're stut right. But if you have adjustability, you can 435 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 4: get hits. You can figure out a way to get 436 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 4: hits right. But if you're a one plane guy, you're 437 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 4: so pitchable, you're so yeah, you can go on VP 438 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 4: and hit a million home runs because you the BP 439 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 4: pitchers like here, it is fifty miles an hour, right 440 00:19:59,400 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 4: down the. 441 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 3: Middle, whack whack, whack right. But then when the game 442 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 3: they don't throw like that, so you have to be 443 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 3: able to use your hands. 444 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 6: So anyway, sorry, Scott, you're right now, and a yeah, 445 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 6: go ahead, Yeah, go ahead, Scott. 446 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 5: I'm good. We can talk about it. You know you're good. 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And then part two is 467 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 2: Leoti Taveries going to burn the Rangers in some important 468 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 2: divisional games. 469 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: It's entirely possible, you know. I mean, that's the risk 470 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: that when you say we're going to move on from somebody, 471 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: that's the risk you take. But let me start with 472 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,360 Speaker 1: Liodi and then move over to Evan on Leodi Tavers. 473 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: He has had eighteen hundred plus played appearances for the 474 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: Rangers over the last five years. He had a spike 475 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, but largely largely he has been 476 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: what he has been, and I think that you can 477 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: bet that Leodi is going to have a good year 478 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: at some point in time, a good start to finish year. 479 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: But if you're the Rangers, you can't say you haven't 480 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: given him a fair opportunity. And with the fact that 481 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: Evan Carter does now appear ready to be to kind 482 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 1: of re establish himself as a big league player, and 483 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: the idea that Alejandro Osuna has really kind of zipped 484 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 1: up the Rangers prospect chart as a guy that everybody 485 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: I've talked to inside the organization and outside loves why 486 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,639 Speaker 1: because he plays hard, because he has situational awareness to 487 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: go with his skills. I think that the Rangers made 488 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: that move. They tried to get something in return for 489 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: Tavers and they couldn't. They know they're in a little 490 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: bit of a financial bind where the luxury threshold is concerned, 491 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: and by getting somebody to take him off their hands, 492 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 1: that saves them about three million dollars going forward, which 493 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: gives them a little bit more wiggle room come the 494 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: trade deadline. Could he burn them in a divisional game, absolutely, 495 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: But I will say this, I don't see Leode going 496 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: in and playing center field in Seattle, there's a pretty 497 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: good center fielder in front of him there, so I 498 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: think he's going to be more of a fourth outfielder there. 499 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 5: In that situation. 500 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: As far as Evan is concerned, he didn't get many 501 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 1: at bats last year and the back issue, which is 502 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: a chronic issue, was something that he had to get 503 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: more comfortable with. The Rangers went to him and when 504 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: they sent him down this year, they talked about opening 505 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: his stands up a little bit more. And now we're 506 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: talking about biomechanics and all that, but it's necessary in 507 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: this situation to open his stands up a little bit 508 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: more and that it would take a little bit of 509 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: pressure off of his back. It took some time for 510 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 1: him to get accustomed to that. But what we've seen 511 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 1: over the last three weeks is the Evan Carter that 512 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 1: the Rangers saw in twenty twenty three and in the 513 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: postseason in twenty twenty three. Very disciplined at the plate. 514 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 1: I think he had seven extra base hits in his 515 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: final fifty plate appearances at TRIPAA, and last night he 516 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 1: certainly looked like he could run. Had two hits, one 517 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: of them was really soft, but his speed is a 518 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: weapon that can turn softly hit balls into hits. So 519 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: I think that the Rangers had hoped at the start 520 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,800 Speaker 1: of the season that Evan Carter would be their center fielder. 521 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,879 Speaker 1: That did not take place based on spring training, But 522 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 1: I think they are ready to turn it over to him, 523 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 1: and I don't think that you can say they sold 524 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: themselves short in terms of an audition for Leonti tavers Oky. 525 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 2: That's great insight, having good good combo there is. 526 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 4: You have a podcast. You have a podcast like when 527 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 4: does this world come to? Like you and John Blake. 528 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 4: You guys are gonna talk Georgetown hoops from the eighties, 529 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 4: like Hoya paranoia or what. 530 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: Well there. I'm sure there will be some references to that, 531 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,680 Speaker 1: but listen. John Blake is a legend in the baseball industry, 532 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: has worked in Major League Baseball for forty seven years, 533 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: spent forty years as the Rangers communications are and prs are, 534 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: and he even found a way to get along with 535 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: you AJ. So he and I got together and we 536 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,120 Speaker 1: talked about this organization and the idea that we could 537 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: bring some of my knowledge or my quote unquote in 538 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: site into the current team and along with some insight 539 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: into a very colorful history of the Rangers organization. And 540 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: we're going to start our little podcast experiment next week. 541 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: Michael Young is going to be the first guest, and 542 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:16,120 Speaker 1: before the end of the year, maybe we'll even talk 543 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 1: to some wayward Texas Rangers catchers. 544 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,400 Speaker 3: No, nope, nope, don't make the cut. 545 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 2: Rangers catchers. 546 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 5: That's really rare. 547 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 4: Giovanni Sodo, Yes, perfect. 548 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: We'll go with Giovanni Soda. 549 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 5: There you go, there you go. 550 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: All right, right out of time, Evan, this was awesome, 551 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: really good combo. Good luck with the pod obviously, let 552 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 2: us know when it's happening and we'll tune in. 553 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: All right, guys, thank you, and it's always great being 554 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: with you. Appreciate it.