WEBVTT - Talkin' Cowboys: Leaning on Defense or Offense? 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:05.080 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.120 --> 0:00:16.480 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:16.920 --> 0:00:20.239 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Head Boars at 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:31.520 the Star in Frisco, Scott. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons, 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:36.720 Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. Mickey, are you left handed 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:39.760 or right handed? I am right handed? Rob? Are you 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:44.200 left handed or right handed? South ball? You're a south ball? Yep? Brian? 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:47.280 What are you left handed? Wow? Yeah? Two lefties and 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.760 two right eas here double action, double barrel action in 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:54.800 the bullpen. As we get started here on Talking Cowboys 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.840 and so Rob Phillips, could you throw a pass under 0:00:57.880 --> 0:01:02.640 pressure right handed? Absolutely? Not, not with Levin guys chasing me. No, 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:06.880 with Von Miller chase. Not with the accuracy that guy 0:01:06.959 --> 0:01:10.080 just threw you. Can you shot put left handed? Yes? 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:12.560 I can shot put left hand. It's like throwing a 0:01:12.600 --> 0:01:16.319 loaf of bread right, you just push it. So that's 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.240 the talk of the NFL today. The left handed shot 0:01:19.240 --> 0:01:23.440 put by Patrick Mahomes is. The Chiefs are four and oh. 0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:26.640 There are two four and oh teams in your National 0:01:26.720 --> 0:01:30.840 Football League, the Chiefs and the Rams. Ah and they 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.160 meet up later this season. Right, but you know what, 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:37.360 buy your tickets. You know who's excited about Sunday Night 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:42.360 in Houston, Texas. I just found out here driving in 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:47.280 today listening to sirious NFL radio. The city of Houston 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:50.880 is fired up for the Dallas Cowboys coming to town 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:55.240 for Sunday night football. Justin Reid, the rookie safety for 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:58.040 the Texans, was interviewed. He says, it feels like the 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:02.280 Super Bowl this week. So I suggest, whoa Cowboys get 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:04.720 fired up for Sunday Night football this week? Is there 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.840 some trophy on the lining? There's some trophy on the line. 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:14.080 Do they do that in the regular season? I don't know. Yeah, 0:02:14.120 --> 0:02:17.360 I wonder who has it? Well, who won in the 0:02:17.400 --> 0:02:20.440 preseason there? Mickey, Well, wasn't that long ago? It was 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.240 just over a month ago. Did you see that? That 0:02:23.280 --> 0:02:25.400 was a blur for me? That was it was. It 0:02:25.480 --> 0:02:29.000 was not a very memorable preseason finale. In fact, I 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:32.920 don't think the Cowboys got to the end zone that day. Yeah, 0:02:32.960 --> 0:02:37.560 and they were quarterbacked by whom Cooper Russian my wife. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.359 I guess they got a half each. But what they 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:42.080 did know, they didn't get to the end zone. But 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:44.400 they did kick a fifty seven yard field goal in 0:02:44.440 --> 0:02:48.919 that game. Her yeah, a month later kicks a game 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.920 winner for the Cowboys. So anyway, you know what I 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:55.840 remember Super Bowl Sunday, Sunday night in Houston. Worst loss 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.560 I ever remember working here, was we getting beat by 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.960 an expansion team. I know. That's exactly right in Houston. 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.720 And that's the other thing I heard Jerry Jones on 0:03:04.720 --> 0:03:07.320 the radio this morning, and I think Jerry Jones is 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:09.880 treating this like the Super Bowl too. It still sticks 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:13.119 in his craw that the Cowboys lost in that huge 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:16.920 vanity cried after the game. I think I did too. 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:20.560 I think that was that was as disheartening a game 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:24.359 as I ever remember in the NFL, and I've got, 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:27.360 unfortunately be part of a lot of them, but that 0:03:27.360 --> 0:03:29.799 that one was that you know that that just right 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:32.600 there showed you that you you didn't do a good 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:35.880 enough job, you didn't have the right personnel, you didn't 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:39.320 you know, the players coaching. It was a whole mess 0:03:39.320 --> 0:03:42.040 of things that were going on, and ultimately it led 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:44.560 to the demise of a lot of us. You know 0:03:44.640 --> 0:03:47.880 that way, So that that that anytime you play in Houston, 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.360 that that comes back that that game reminds me of 0:03:51.840 --> 0:03:55.320 how you could be riding along doing well, being part 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.080 of Super Bowl teams and stuff, and then you have 0:03:57.160 --> 0:03:59.680 a game where you lose to an expansion team right 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:01.880 off the bat. And that was their season two. We 0:04:02.320 --> 0:04:04.680 built that one in the deep Blue the Parcels Dock, 0:04:04.800 --> 0:04:07.000 because that one just kind of summed up where things 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:11.560 were heading. Oh jeez, was just awful, and that truly 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:14.800 was a super Bowl like environment. Yeah, in terms of 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:17.680 I mean the first game of the season, first game 0:04:17.720 --> 0:04:21.200 ever for Houston they got football back. Yeah, and what 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:22.960 a way to make a statement then beat the in 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:25.600 state rival who Yeah, it's not that far removed from 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:29.799 Super Bowls back then, especially since if you remember how 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:36.880 badly they played and in the practice scrimmage they had 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:40.719 at the University of Houston, it was almost a joke. Yeah, 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:44.320 I remember that vividly going there from San Antonio and 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:47.479 it was like, oh my, this team's in trouble. And 0:04:47.520 --> 0:04:49.440 then they come out and beat them in the season 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:52.039 opener and it's oh, well, they didn't win many games 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:54.080 that year, but they won the first one that they won, 0:04:54.160 --> 0:04:56.440 that one and that one and that was the really 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:58.200 their whole season if you kind of look at things. 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:00.320 I think the next year, their media guide cover had 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:03.480 it on. I mean it was crazy, but you know 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.479 it was funny because here's Houston fired up for their 0:05:06.560 --> 0:05:08.680 this game. Though, but if you watched the Giants game 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.119 on tape that they had a lot of people dressed 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:13.680 up as seats, you know, I wouldn't have the crowd 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:15.320 that they, you know, but I have a feeling that 0:05:15.360 --> 0:05:19.320 they'll be full throat for this one. And okay, so 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:23.080 why is it that outside of the fact that the rivalry, 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.880 I guess that Houston considers Dallas to be and in 0:05:26.040 --> 0:05:29.159 America's team coming down there, But why are they getting 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:33.080 so fired up for this game? Because it's rarely happens. 0:05:33.160 --> 0:05:37.720 I mean when you before the preseason game this year, Okay, 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.719 just over a month ago, someone came up to me 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:44.240 on the sideline and said, Tyren Smith just said that 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:48.159 he doesn't remember ever playing in NRG Stadium, And I 0:05:48.279 --> 0:05:50.600 was like, what, they've had to have played a preseason 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:54.840 game there. But the hurricane though, that was last year. Yeah, right, 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.560 and so and John looked it up and sure enough, 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:00.680 Tyron Smith was drafted in twenty eleven. So This is 0:06:00.720 --> 0:06:05.960 the first regular season game for the Cowboys at Houston 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.279 since two thousand and ten. Yeah, and so Tyrn Smith 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:12.400 was at USC Yeah, and so how many how many 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:15.000 people on this Cowboys roster have played a regular season 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:19.640 game at Houston, LP, Latissar and Sean Lee and Sean 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:22.880 Lee probably won't play, yeah, playing right. So that's how 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:25.120 rare it is that the Cowboys go to Houston. This 0:06:25.160 --> 0:06:27.800 will be the third time that they played the Texans 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.520 in Houston outside of that two thousand and two games 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:33.159 in two thousand and ten. So every every eight years. Yeah, 0:06:33.240 --> 0:06:36.440 And if I'm not the next one, will we be 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:39.120 around about how often? Then I'm a Super Bowl will 0:06:39.120 --> 0:06:40.839 make a prediction. I will not be there for that game, 0:06:41.680 --> 0:06:44.520 Costa Rica. I'll be somewhere else in my world, Yeah, 0:06:44.760 --> 0:06:46.840 South America. If I'll be somewhere, I don't want to 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:50.640 think about it. Old, I'll be there. You're fine, You're 0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:52.839 fine if I'm not mistaken. In twenty ten, that was 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:56.160 a Cowboys team that had Super Bowl aspirations and started 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:59.960 the season oh and two right, and they went to 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:03.680 Houston trying to overcome and two start or were they 0:07:03.880 --> 0:07:06.920 and one? Well, they started that year one in one 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:09.279 and seven they won that game and started and two 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:12.320 because that was the previous that was the year Wade 0:07:12.360 --> 0:07:16.920 got fired. That with Wade, you know, because it was 0:07:17.120 --> 0:07:19.000 they were the only win. They were one and one. 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:22.960 They won. Um, Yeah, they won twenty seven to thirteen 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.920 on September twenty sixth. Yeah, it was there. It was 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:27.960 there one win in the first half of the season. 0:07:28.000 --> 0:07:30.360 It was their last one and two starts until this year. 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:33.360 And honestly, I mean it's not the same deal or 0:07:33.400 --> 0:07:35.480 a few weeks into the season, but you got two teams. 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:37.640 You got a Houston team that you know, Brian and 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:39.280 I talked about a preseason it was like a pretty 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:41.240 good football team. And see they can make the playoffs. 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:43.840 They've had a rough start. The Cowboys know they can't 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.680 afford to dig a hole. This is a big game 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:49.000 for both teams. I mean, it's kind of reminiscent of that. 0:07:49.240 --> 0:07:52.600 I mean Texans. A lot of people picked it, including me, 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:55.720 picked the Texans to win that division or at least 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:59.400 make the playoffs out of a tough division. UM, got 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.240 some issues, Yeah, they've got some issues up for defensively, 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:04.200 I think they're still pretty good. They have some problems 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:06.120 in the secondary, just looking at him this morning, but 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:09.160 their biggest issues are along the offensive line. Mickey would 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:12.000 hate this team because they don't pass protect seven sacks 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:14.360 they gave up this last game. Yeah they don't and 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:16.640 they won. Yeah, they don't, you know what. You know, 0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:18.400 how it was interesting about the game. I know you 0:08:18.400 --> 0:08:21.600 didn't get a chance to see what happened. Colts fumble 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.240 on their own one yard line and they do it 0:08:24.320 --> 0:08:27.160 with a way the center thought that Luck was underneath 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:30.320 the center was underneath him. He snapped the ball short, 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.160 it landed on the goal line, and Houston just converged 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.360 and that's how one of their touchdowns was scored. Oh, 0:08:35.400 --> 0:08:37.960 I saw a replay that I didn't understand what happen. 0:08:38.200 --> 0:08:40.559 Luck was in the shotgun and he was calling the signals. 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:43.200 Center snaps it short, ball ends up on the goal 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:46.079 line and there's just a rush and that's and that's 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:48.199 how they got one of their touchdowns short like he 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:52.760 like he was under center the Luck Yeah ball, The 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.640 ball just basically came up just a little bit and 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:57.480 then went to the ground and next thing you know, 0:08:57.679 --> 0:09:00.400 it's like all out trying to I mean, Luck's diving 0:09:00.480 --> 0:09:04.400 in there. Everybody's no wonder, I didn't understand what happened? Yeah, 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:09.520 what I explained? No, no, no'sac there was no there 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:13.040 was no sound when I say, I just saw this 0:09:13.200 --> 0:09:17.480 massive Yeah what yeah, short snap of the center that 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:20.760 was one of their touchdowns thirty seven. Yeah, that was 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:22.199 I mean, you know, if you look back and you're 0:09:22.280 --> 0:09:24.720 the Colts, you're thinking, oh, how do we lose this game? Well, 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:27.360 he gave up a bad touchdown on a you know, 0:09:27.559 --> 0:09:31.160 just a mental mistake, and then it went overtime, right overtime, 0:09:31.200 --> 0:09:33.839 and then and it went forward. You can't wait to 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:35.640 get to that. I'm looking forward to the Frank Wright 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.320 play there. I'm kind of working my way there. But 0:09:38.360 --> 0:09:41.280 they do have some issues bill with their offensive line. 0:09:41.280 --> 0:09:43.839 They don't run the football well enough. They don't block 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.599 well enough to run the football. But the problem is 0:09:46.640 --> 0:09:48.839 you're dealing with some receivers again, I know we'll get 0:09:48.880 --> 0:09:50.760 into that, and you're dealing with a quarterback that's not 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:52.920 as good as the one you played last week. If 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:54.640 you can kind of bang him around a little bit. 0:09:54.720 --> 0:09:56.920 Seems to be he's not as accurate as he needs 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.080 to be. So a lot going on has been a 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:03.080 gamer in his There's no question about that. Nick Saban 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:04.840 does not like to see that young man line up 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:06.760 under center anytime he's in a ball game. One of 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:09.240 the things that concerns you if you're a Cowboy fan, 0:10:10.400 --> 0:10:12.600 well going up against him in a Sunday night game 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:16.000 on a big stage, because he seems to play well 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:19.040 on the pass. Shaun Watson is an ann outstanding player. 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.400 It's interesting what the Giants did. The Giant we all 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:23.400 know the Giants, Well, the Giants just didn't let him 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:25.560 run the ball. The Giants had said, you know what, 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:28.720 we're not going to let you him know. The whole team, 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.280 the whole team. Yeah, they put a lot of pressure 0:10:31.800 --> 0:10:35.960 on him with the teams have made Houston very one dimensional. 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:38.640 And this guy, again is not like the quarterback he 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:41.840 just faced. Uh, this guy will make mistakes, he will 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:43.760 throw the ball short and the other thing. You know. 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.559 But he had three hundred seventy five yards the other 0:10:45.640 --> 0:10:48.120 day in that game. But if you watch the overall 0:10:48.160 --> 0:10:50.320 tape and what's he's played, he hasn't got off to 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:56.000 the start that he got last last year. Last nineteen 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.040 touchdown passes and he had a Patrick Mahomes like start 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:02.839 to write to his Yeah NFL career. You wonder though, 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:05.839 with him coming off the ACL injury, just how much 0:11:05.880 --> 0:11:07.880 he was able to work with his receivers in the 0:11:07.920 --> 0:11:11.120 off season. Almost it was almost kind of like RG 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.040 three back after his Rookie of the year's season his 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:16.920 first year with Washington, wasn't able to work with his 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:19.640 receivers during the off season, didn't get that work in 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.280 And uh and who knows Carson Wentz maybe going through 0:11:23.280 --> 0:11:25.280 the same kind of stuff in Philly this year. Yeah, 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:29.839 this this DeAndre Hopkins, he was very similar to Odell Beckham, 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.440 that kind of player that a lot of the crossing stuff, 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.000 that down the field stuff. All of a sudden, he's 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.559 standing on the sidelines just waiting for the ball to 0:11:38.720 --> 0:11:40.680 come to him. You know. He's one of these guys 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.840 that you know him. And they had this Kiki Kuti 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:48.560 from Texas Tech. Texas had a couple of drops last week. 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:51.000 But this kid catches a ton of balls. I mean 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.800 eleven catches one hundred and nine yards last week. Yeah, 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.240 I had a couple of drops actually too. So it's 0:11:56.280 --> 0:11:59.840 a lot of guys and a touchdown pass every game 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:02.520 will full of exactly he was a first round pick 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:06.120 from Notre Dame. So you're talking about guys that you 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:08.840 know the Cowboys secondary, and the question I'll ask you guys, 0:12:09.440 --> 0:12:12.600 was that just something that just really great play on 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:16.520 the Detroit Lions part or was that just something that 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:20.520 we need to be concerned about going forward coverage wise, Well, 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:21.800 it was a little bit of both. I mean we 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:25.200 talked about it yesterday. Cheeto. I think Cheeto played well 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.560 overall in the game. There were some passes and they 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.000 didn't even look Byron Jones's way. Mostly, no, they did not. 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.040 There are some passes that I don't know what you 0:12:33.200 --> 0:12:39.480 do to defend the perfectly plays perfectly caught. So I 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.200 don't put really that on him. I thought he played 0:12:41.240 --> 0:12:43.000 pretty well. I think there's things he can build off 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.560 of that. But I mean busted coverages, I mean, that's 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.080 stuff you can fix. That's the last touchdown of the game. 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:53.480 That's that's something that's correctable. But that's three and two games. Yeah, look, Rusted, 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:57.079 see the concern. I'm right with you on this one. 0:12:57.280 --> 0:13:01.080 Look around the league. I mean, how many touchdowns are 0:13:01.080 --> 0:13:06.040 being thrown four hundred yard passing games? Yeah, okay, yeah, 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:08.560 twelve four hundred yard passing games in the month of 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.960 September around the league. There were eight total all year 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:15.839 last year. Okay, it's look at the scores. Is this 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:19.800 turnating into college exactly? It's the trickle up effect of 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.680 these quarterbacks. I mean, I was, you know, just watching 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:25.640 Mahomes last night, and you know, case Keenum is a 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:27.800 Texas guy. He's not as as young as the other 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:30.880 guys whatever, But I mean, you look around the league 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:34.720 in college, he put it up a lot at Houston exactly, right, yeah, yeah, 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.800 I mean, look at the games this week. Okay. Thursday night, 0:13:38.000 --> 0:13:40.880 the Rams beat the Vikings thirty eight thirty one, right, Okay. 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:45.560 Jacksonville scored thirty one on the Jets on Sunday, truebisky 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:50.840 six touchdown passes Chicago forty eight points. Okay. New England 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:54.200 wins thirty eight seven. Andy Dalton throws a touchdown another 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:58.040 Texas guy. Um, there was a touchdown past aj Green 0:13:58.120 --> 0:14:03.239 in the final seconds to beat Atlanta thirty seven thirty six. Okay, Tennessee, 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.280 it was a twenty six, twenty three game. They score 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:09.440 in the overtime. Mario touchdown pass touchdown pass to Corey Davis, 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:11.920 one of his career I matched up against another first 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:15.480 round picking Carson Wentz. There, Houston wins in overtime. Thirty 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:19.320 seven thirty four was the final score. Oakland and Cleveland. 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:22.720 You got two Texas quarterbacks, Derek Carr, who went to 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:26.640 high school in Texas and Baker Mayfield. Forty five forty 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:30.240 two is the final score. Breeze another Texas quarterback thirty 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:32.960 three points against the Giants. Any of these guys play 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:38.680 for Texas? No Okay, Charger and the Chargers beat the 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:42.200 nine Ers twenty nine, twenty seven. It's all over the league. 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.840 So wait, miss, and then last night you got the 0:14:44.920 --> 0:14:47.600 twenty seven, twenty three game. Miss. Trumbisky had six touchdowns, 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:50.520 six touchdown passes. You know the Cowboys have six touchdowns 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.480 on the season. I think, do you know? Do you 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:56.880 know the only Bears quarterback to throw for more than 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:01.520 six in a game? Jack kin Cannon said Luckman that way, 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.640 I know, I know that's we need forty three? What 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:06.760 number did said Luckman wear? Mickey, you remember this one? 0:15:06.800 --> 0:15:09.720 I do not forty two? Forty two? That sounds right. 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.280 So what did you go with your dad to the game? Yes, 0:15:12.360 --> 0:15:19.920 I did it Wrigley Field. Jack was doing against Wrigley Field. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:15:19.920 --> 0:15:24.560 they played it before Soldier Field, but a Field played 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:28.320 sixty against them. They played it Wrigley through the sixties, 0:15:28.480 --> 0:15:30.720 I think, and it was some point in the seventies 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:34.000 when they kind of refurbished soldiers Field to make it 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:38.120 love NFL ready. Yeah, I love that place. Yeah, except 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.640 for how they kind of tried to redo it and 0:15:40.960 --> 0:15:43.960 the spaceship in the middle, like they landed a spaceship 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:47.560 on something from the eighteen hundreds, you know, Soldier Field 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:50.320 before it was really crazy, said Luckman, come on, but 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:52.640 your but your point is well taken, though, I mean, 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:57.240 is you know, I'm just this defense though. I mean, 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.680 I I want to people, I want to feel good 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:02.360 about the secondary, and I just maybe it was just 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:04.080 one of those things. Maybe you just caught a really 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.440 great quarterback and you caught a great group of receivers 0:16:07.480 --> 0:16:10.400 that you made circus catches. You know, maybe this week 0:16:10.440 --> 0:16:13.160 that doesn't happen, you know, I mean, I I'm with Rob. 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.720 I think a Woozier played well. And I asked Jason 0:16:15.760 --> 0:16:17.320 Garrett this in the walk off. How do you coach 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:19.520 something like that? You just hey, maybe you say your 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.240 hand here, your feet here, you know, body position here, 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.800 but overall, I didn't think that a Woozier was in 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:28.600 terrible shape playing those some of the passes that staffered through. 0:16:28.880 --> 0:16:32.000 You know that you have great coverage, but maybe that's 0:16:32.000 --> 0:16:35.280 what the NFL has become. You know, that's a lot 0:16:35.280 --> 0:16:37.680 of great passers. So every week you've got to be 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:41.000 ready for you know, a circus place such such a 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:44.720 stress on a defense. Yeah, with even if you get pressure, 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:46.880 you know, even if you get pressure, I mean, and 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:50.320 I just me watching that tape and you guys seeing 0:16:50.360 --> 0:16:52.600 the game as well, maybe going back and looking at yourselves. 0:16:53.080 --> 0:16:55.000 If they didn't get the pressure they did, that those 0:16:55.080 --> 0:16:57.680 numbers could have been worse. That's the bottom line. I mean, 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:00.200 that's I mean, if you don't get that pressure. This 0:17:00.280 --> 0:17:03.720 is if this is Cowboy teams of five, six, seven 0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:06.280 years ago where we didn't see enough pressure, and you're 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.719 in every week we're coming on our show saying, oh, 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:10.639 they don't get enough pressure. Get you know, man, that 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:12.679 game could have been That could have been one of 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.560 your fifth year sixty points. Well with the way the 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.359 way that guy was throwing there, And that's why I 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:19.680 was so important for the Cowboys to do what they 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.680 did offensively in that game, and they controlled the game. 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.919 They controlled the ball okay with their run game and 0:17:26.000 --> 0:17:29.520 made it just enough plays in the passing game. But 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.840 to your point, you know, DeMarcus Lawrence got one of 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.040 his sacks on the first possession of the second half. 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:37.480 Sure you know the Lions only had the ball three 0:17:37.520 --> 0:17:39.640 times in the second half. They scored touchdowns on two 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:43.080 of them. So that's the bottom line. Pressure, that's the 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:45.159 only way you're gonna stop this stuff. Yeah, you know, 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.119 enough pressure. Remember when we were talking about getting ready 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:49.879 for the Giants. How do you how do you stop 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:52.959 Odell Beckham Junior? Well you stop, but Eli Manning right, 0:17:53.080 --> 0:17:56.159 the pressure. You can't cover all this stuff, and you're 0:17:56.200 --> 0:17:58.959 gonna have busted coverages, right, it's gonna happen. No one 0:17:59.000 --> 0:18:02.280 plays perfectly. You got to get to the quarterbacks in 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:04.679 this league, and if you can't, you're gonna get You 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.560 better score a bunch of points otherwise you're in trouble. 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:09.800 The same thing in college, right, Yeah, I mean you're 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:12.280 gonna put up. If you don't score thirty forty points 0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.840 a game, you got a shot. What's more important now 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:21.399 than our defense or the offense can't find offensive lineman. Yeah, well, 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:25.199 can't mean that Vikings game is a great example. It 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:27.239 was a thirty eight thirty one game and these are 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.840 two of the best defenses in the league supposedly. Yeah no, 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:31.720 that's a good point. But you know what, you still 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:33.679 got to be built defensively because when you get to 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:37.760 the playoffs, these scores, these totals drop, they always do. 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.320 But you gotta have enough offense to win. And you 0:18:40.440 --> 0:18:44.040 do ask Jacksonville, you do. But Philadelphia lit up Minnesota, 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:47.320 didn't they on in that championship game playing with just 0:18:47.480 --> 0:18:52.080 strictly offense. Okay, maybe you're right, No, no, no, I 0:18:52.080 --> 0:18:54.080 don't mean that. No, I'm not trying to bust on 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:59.879 you here. Maybe maybe this team is this gonna sound terrible, 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.760 but maybe this team has built the wrong way if 0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:05.160 you think of what trends are going to not if 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:08.680 you can run the football three possessions the second half, 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:10.639 there you go. Why did that happen? Yeah, there was 0:19:10.680 --> 0:19:13.240 an eight minute drive. Now unfortunately for the Cowboys it 0:19:13.280 --> 0:19:15.159 turned into a field goal. Yeah, but it was an 0:19:15.160 --> 0:19:18.119 eight but got ten minute drive, we'd have been in 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:23.719 better shape. Yeah, there you go. Can't let nicky here, 0:19:23.760 --> 0:19:25.560 I come down and call those players at the end. 0:19:25.920 --> 0:19:28.359 That's not too hard to click Mickey, click over and say, Brian, 0:19:28.480 --> 0:19:31.680 run the ball here, police want me. You're good talking 0:19:31.680 --> 0:19:36.040 about that lesson on Christmas Eve. But but but okay, 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:39.360 the Cowboys equipped then to have to play this kind 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:42.840 of game defensively with the pressure and with what we 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:46.960 feel the cornerbacks can do. See you're almost you're almost 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:52.080 better selling out. And if you have to create pressure, 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:56.199 blitz just make the quarterback to his point, to his 0:19:56.320 --> 0:20:00.320 point because they get vandersh and coverage on the outside 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:04.280 with Riddick, and Vanderesh falls down, and that was the 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:07.800 blitz that they sent, the fake, the fake cover and 0:20:07.920 --> 0:20:11.280 blitz with Smith on the outside, they get vandersh and 0:20:11.320 --> 0:20:13.400 coverage and they're going it's a double move and he 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.520 falls and you could tell Stafford is looking to throw 0:20:16.560 --> 0:20:19.359 the ball that way. But the pressure with Read and 0:20:19.400 --> 0:20:22.359 then on the backside with Lawrence and then with what's 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:26.080 coming up the middle. Sometimes when you blitz, you affect 0:20:26.080 --> 0:20:28.440 the way that the play is going to develop. Because 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:30.680 if if Vanderesh falls, if he gets that ball off, 0:20:30.720 --> 0:20:33.159 it's going to be a big game down the sidelines 0:20:33.280 --> 0:20:35.359 because because he's in the middle of the field and 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:38.520 he has to honor golden take coming inside to him. 0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:41.960 So sometimes Mike Mickey says, you just got to sell 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:45.160 out and hope you get home to affect the way 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:48.080 the quarterbacks playing in these games. Going into last night, 0:20:48.119 --> 0:20:51.119 the Cowboys had fourteen sacks. They were third in the league. 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:54.280 I don't know what happened with the top two. Chicago 0:20:54.359 --> 0:20:57.919 Bears had eighteen and the Colts thanks to the seven, 0:20:58.160 --> 0:21:02.040 ye have seventeen and they've given up fourteen sacks too. 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.240