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Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco, Scott. Here are Mickey Spagnola, Brian Brons,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, and Bill Jones. Mickey, are you left handed
Speaker 1: or right handed? I am right handed? Rob? Are you
Speaker 1: left handed or right handed? South ball? You're a south ball? Yep? Brian?
Speaker 1: What are you left handed? Wow? Yeah? Two lefties and
Speaker 1: two right eas here double action, double barrel action in
Speaker 1: the bullpen. As we get started here on Talking Cowboys
Speaker 1: and so Rob Phillips, could you throw a pass under
Speaker 1: pressure right handed? Absolutely? Not, not with Levin guys chasing me. No,
Speaker 1: with Von Miller chase. Not with the accuracy that guy
Speaker 1: just threw you. Can you shot put left handed? Yes?
Speaker 1: I can shot put left hand. It's like throwing a
Speaker 1: loaf of bread right, you just push it. So that's
Speaker 1: the talk of the NFL today. The left handed shot
Speaker 1: put by Patrick Mahomes is. The Chiefs are four and oh.
Speaker 1: There are two four and oh teams in your National
Speaker 1: Football League, the Chiefs and the Rams. Ah and they
Speaker 1: meet up later this season. Right, but you know what,
Speaker 1: buy your tickets. You know who's excited about Sunday Night
Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas. I just found out here driving in
Speaker 1: today listening to sirious NFL radio. The city of Houston
Speaker 1: is fired up for the Dallas Cowboys coming to town
Speaker 1: for Sunday night football. Justin Reid, the rookie safety for
Speaker 1: the Texans, was interviewed. He says, it feels like the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl this week. So I suggest, whoa Cowboys get
Speaker 1: fired up for Sunday Night football this week? Is there
Speaker 1: some trophy on the lining? There's some trophy on the line.
Speaker 1: Do they do that in the regular season? I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder who has it? Well, who won in the
Speaker 1: preseason there? Mickey, Well, wasn't that long ago? It was
Speaker 1: just over a month ago. Did you see that? That
Speaker 1: was a blur for me? That was it was. It
Speaker 1: was not a very memorable preseason finale. In fact, I
Speaker 1: don't think the Cowboys got to the end zone that day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they were quarterbacked by whom Cooper Russian my wife.
Speaker 1: I guess they got a half each. But what they
Speaker 1: did know, they didn't get to the end zone. But
Speaker 1: they did kick a fifty seven yard field goal in
Speaker 1: that game. Her yeah, a month later kicks a game
Speaker 1: winner for the Cowboys. So anyway, you know what I
Speaker 1: remember Super Bowl Sunday, Sunday night in Houston. Worst loss
Speaker 1: I ever remember working here, was we getting beat by
Speaker 1: an expansion team. I know. That's exactly right in Houston.
Speaker 1: And that's the other thing I heard Jerry Jones on
Speaker 1: the radio this morning, and I think Jerry Jones is
Speaker 1: treating this like the Super Bowl too. It still sticks
Speaker 1: in his craw that the Cowboys lost in that huge
Speaker 1: vanity cried after the game. I think I did too.
Speaker 1: I think that was that was as disheartening a game
Speaker 1: as I ever remember in the NFL, and I've got,
Speaker 1: unfortunately be part of a lot of them, but that
Speaker 1: that one was that you know that that just right
Speaker 1: there showed you that you you didn't do a good
Speaker 1: enough job, you didn't have the right personnel, you didn't
Speaker 1: you know, the players coaching. It was a whole mess
Speaker 1: of things that were going on, and ultimately it led
Speaker 1: to the demise of a lot of us. You know
Speaker 1: that way, So that that that anytime you play in Houston,
Speaker 1: that that comes back that that game reminds me of
Speaker 1: how you could be riding along doing well, being part
Speaker 1: of Super Bowl teams and stuff, and then you have
Speaker 1: a game where you lose to an expansion team right
Speaker 1: off the bat. And that was their season two. We
Speaker 1: built that one in the deep Blue the Parcels Dock,
Speaker 1: because that one just kind of summed up where things
Speaker 1: were heading. Oh jeez, was just awful, and that truly
Speaker 1: was a super Bowl like environment. Yeah, in terms of
Speaker 1: I mean the first game of the season, first game
Speaker 1: ever for Houston they got football back. Yeah, and what
Speaker 1: a way to make a statement then beat the in
Speaker 1: state rival who Yeah, it's not that far removed from
Speaker 1: Super Bowls back then, especially since if you remember how
Speaker 1: badly they played and in the practice scrimmage they had
Speaker 1: at the University of Houston, it was almost a joke. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I remember that vividly going there from San Antonio and
Speaker 1: it was like, oh my, this team's in trouble. And
Speaker 1: then they come out and beat them in the season
Speaker 1: opener and it's oh, well, they didn't win many games
Speaker 1: that year, but they won the first one that they won,
Speaker 1: that one and that one and that was the really
Speaker 1: their whole season if you kind of look at things.
Speaker 1: I think the next year, their media guide cover had
Speaker 1: it on. I mean it was crazy, but you know
Speaker 1: it was funny because here's Houston fired up for their
Speaker 1: this game. Though, but if you watched the Giants game
Speaker 1: on tape that they had a lot of people dressed
Speaker 1: up as seats, you know, I wouldn't have the crowd
Speaker 1: that they, you know, but I have a feeling that
Speaker 1: they'll be full throat for this one. And okay, so
Speaker 1: why is it that outside of the fact that the rivalry,
Speaker 1: I guess that Houston considers Dallas to be and in
Speaker 1: America's team coming down there, But why are they getting
Speaker 1: so fired up for this game? Because it's rarely happens.
Speaker 1: I mean when you before the preseason game this year, Okay,
Speaker 1: just over a month ago, someone came up to me
Speaker 1: on the sideline and said, Tyren Smith just said that
Speaker 1: he doesn't remember ever playing in NRG Stadium, And I
Speaker 1: was like, what, they've had to have played a preseason
Speaker 1: game there. But the hurricane though, that was last year. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: and so and John looked it up and sure enough,
Speaker 1: Tyron Smith was drafted in twenty eleven. So This is
Speaker 1: the first regular season game for the Cowboys at Houston
Speaker 1: since two thousand and ten. Yeah, and so Tyrn Smith
Speaker 1: was at USC Yeah, and so how many how many
Speaker 1: people on this Cowboys roster have played a regular season
Speaker 1: game at Houston, LP, Latissar and Sean Lee and Sean
Speaker 1: Lee probably won't play, yeah, playing right. So that's how
Speaker 1: rare it is that the Cowboys go to Houston. This
Speaker 1: will be the third time that they played the Texans
Speaker 1: in Houston outside of that two thousand and two games
Speaker 1: in two thousand and ten. So every every eight years. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And if I'm not the next one, will we be
Speaker 1: around about how often? Then I'm a Super Bowl will
Speaker 1: make a prediction. I will not be there for that game,
Speaker 1: Costa Rica. I'll be somewhere else in my world, Yeah,
Speaker 1: South America. If I'll be somewhere, I don't want to
Speaker 1: think about it. Old, I'll be there. You're fine, You're
Speaker 1: fine if I'm not mistaken. In twenty ten, that was
Speaker 1: a Cowboys team that had Super Bowl aspirations and started
Speaker 1: the season oh and two right, and they went to
Speaker 1: Houston trying to overcome and two start or were they
Speaker 1: and one? Well, they started that year one in one
Speaker 1: and seven they won that game and started and two
Speaker 1: because that was the previous that was the year Wade
Speaker 1: got fired. That with Wade, you know, because it was
Speaker 1: they were the only win. They were one and one.
Speaker 1: They won. Um, Yeah, they won twenty seven to thirteen
Speaker 1: on September twenty sixth. Yeah, it was there. It was
Speaker 1: there one win in the first half of the season.
Speaker 1: It was their last one and two starts until this year.
Speaker 1: And honestly, I mean it's not the same deal or
Speaker 1: a few weeks into the season, but you got two teams.
Speaker 1: You got a Houston team that you know, Brian and
Speaker 1: I talked about a preseason it was like a pretty
Speaker 1: good football team. And see they can make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: They've had a rough start. The Cowboys know they can't
Speaker 1: afford to dig a hole. This is a big game
Speaker 1: for both teams. I mean, it's kind of reminiscent of that.
Speaker 1: I mean Texans. A lot of people picked it, including me,
Speaker 1: picked the Texans to win that division or at least
Speaker 1: make the playoffs out of a tough division. UM, got
Speaker 1: some issues, Yeah, they've got some issues up for defensively,
Speaker 1: I think they're still pretty good. They have some problems
Speaker 1: in the secondary, just looking at him this morning, but
Speaker 1: their biggest issues are along the offensive line. Mickey would
Speaker 1: hate this team because they don't pass protect seven sacks
Speaker 1: they gave up this last game. Yeah they don't and
Speaker 1: they won. Yeah, they don't, you know what. You know,
Speaker 1: how it was interesting about the game. I know you
Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to see what happened. Colts fumble
Speaker 1: on their own one yard line and they do it
Speaker 1: with a way the center thought that Luck was underneath
Speaker 1: the center was underneath him. He snapped the ball short,
Speaker 1: it landed on the goal line, and Houston just converged
Speaker 1: and that's how one of their touchdowns was scored. Oh,
Speaker 1: I saw a replay that I didn't understand what happen.
Speaker 1: Luck was in the shotgun and he was calling the signals.
Speaker 1: Center snaps it short, ball ends up on the goal
Speaker 1: line and there's just a rush and that's and that's
Speaker 1: how they got one of their touchdowns short like he
Speaker 1: like he was under center the Luck Yeah ball, The
Speaker 1: ball just basically came up just a little bit and
Speaker 1: then went to the ground and next thing you know,
Speaker 1: it's like all out trying to I mean, Luck's diving
Speaker 1: in there. Everybody's no wonder, I didn't understand what happened? Yeah,
Speaker 1: what I explained? No, no, no'sac there was no there
Speaker 1: was no sound when I say, I just saw this
Speaker 1: massive Yeah what yeah, short snap of the center that
Speaker 1: was one of their touchdowns thirty seven. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if you look back and you're
Speaker 1: the Colts, you're thinking, oh, how do we lose this game? Well,
Speaker 1: he gave up a bad touchdown on a you know,
Speaker 1: just a mental mistake, and then it went overtime, right overtime,
Speaker 1: and then and it went forward. You can't wait to
Speaker 1: get to that. I'm looking forward to the Frank Wright
Speaker 1: play there. I'm kind of working my way there. But
Speaker 1: they do have some issues bill with their offensive line.
Speaker 1: They don't run the football well enough. They don't block
Speaker 1: well enough to run the football. But the problem is
Speaker 1: you're dealing with some receivers again, I know we'll get
Speaker 1: into that, and you're dealing with a quarterback that's not
Speaker 1: as good as the one you played last week. If
Speaker 1: you can kind of bang him around a little bit.
Speaker 1: Seems to be he's not as accurate as he needs
Speaker 1: to be. So a lot going on has been a
Speaker 1: gamer in his There's no question about that. Nick Saban
Speaker 1: does not like to see that young man line up
Speaker 1: under center anytime he's in a ball game. One of
Speaker 1: the things that concerns you if you're a Cowboy fan,
Speaker 1: well going up against him in a Sunday night game
Speaker 1: on a big stage, because he seems to play well
Speaker 1: on the pass. Shaun Watson is an ann outstanding player.
Speaker 1: It's interesting what the Giants did. The Giant we all
Speaker 1: know the Giants, Well, the Giants just didn't let him
Speaker 1: run the ball. The Giants had said, you know what,
Speaker 1: we're not going to let you him know. The whole team,
Speaker 1: the whole team. Yeah, they put a lot of pressure
Speaker 1: on him with the teams have made Houston very one dimensional.
Speaker 1: And this guy, again is not like the quarterback he
Speaker 1: just faced. Uh, this guy will make mistakes, he will
Speaker 1: throw the ball short and the other thing. You know.
Speaker 1: But he had three hundred seventy five yards the other
Speaker 1: day in that game. But if you watch the overall
Speaker 1: tape and what's he's played, he hasn't got off to
Speaker 1: the start that he got last last year. Last nineteen
Speaker 1: touchdown passes and he had a Patrick Mahomes like start
Speaker 1: to write to his Yeah NFL career. You wonder though,
Speaker 1: with him coming off the ACL injury, just how much
Speaker 1: he was able to work with his receivers in the
Speaker 1: off season. Almost it was almost kind of like RG
Speaker 1: three back after his Rookie of the year's season his
Speaker 1: first year with Washington, wasn't able to work with his
Speaker 1: receivers during the off season, didn't get that work in
Speaker 1: And uh and who knows Carson Wentz maybe going through
Speaker 1: the same kind of stuff in Philly this year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this this DeAndre Hopkins, he was very similar to Odell Beckham,
Speaker 1: that kind of player that a lot of the crossing stuff,
Speaker 1: that down the field stuff. All of a sudden, he's
Speaker 1: standing on the sidelines just waiting for the ball to
Speaker 1: come to him. You know. He's one of these guys
Speaker 1: that you know him. And they had this Kiki Kuti
Speaker 1: from Texas Tech. Texas had a couple of drops last week.
Speaker 1: But this kid catches a ton of balls. I mean
Speaker 1: eleven catches one hundred and nine yards last week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had a couple of drops actually too. So it's
Speaker 1: a lot of guys and a touchdown pass every game
Speaker 1: will full of exactly he was a first round pick
Speaker 1: from Notre Dame. So you're talking about guys that you
Speaker 1: know the Cowboys secondary, and the question I'll ask you guys,
Speaker 1: was that just something that just really great play on
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions part or was that just something that
Speaker 1: we need to be concerned about going forward coverage wise, Well,
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of both. I mean we
Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday. Cheeto. I think Cheeto played well
Speaker 1: overall in the game. There were some passes and they
Speaker 1: didn't even look Byron Jones's way. Mostly, no, they did not.
Speaker 1: There are some passes that I don't know what you
Speaker 1: do to defend the perfectly plays perfectly caught. So I
Speaker 1: don't put really that on him. I thought he played
Speaker 1: pretty well. I think there's things he can build off
Speaker 1: of that. But I mean busted coverages, I mean, that's
Speaker 1: stuff you can fix. That's the last touchdown of the game.
Speaker 1: That's that's something that's correctable. But that's three and two games. Yeah, look, Rusted,
Speaker 1: see the concern. I'm right with you on this one.
Speaker 1: Look around the league. I mean, how many touchdowns are
Speaker 1: being thrown four hundred yard passing games? Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: twelve four hundred yard passing games in the month of
Speaker 1: September around the league. There were eight total all year
Speaker 1: last year. Okay, it's look at the scores. Is this
Speaker 1: turnating into college exactly? It's the trickle up effect of
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks. I mean, I was, you know, just watching
Speaker 1: Mahomes last night, and you know, case Keenum is a
Speaker 1: Texas guy. He's not as as young as the other
Speaker 1: guys whatever, But I mean, you look around the league
Speaker 1: in college, he put it up a lot at Houston exactly, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the games this week. Okay. Thursday night,
Speaker 1: the Rams beat the Vikings thirty eight thirty one, right, Okay.
Speaker 1: Jacksonville scored thirty one on the Jets on Sunday, truebisky
Speaker 1: six touchdown passes Chicago forty eight points. Okay. New England
Speaker 1: wins thirty eight seven. Andy Dalton throws a touchdown another
Speaker 1: Texas guy. Um, there was a touchdown past aj Green
Speaker 1: in the final seconds to beat Atlanta thirty seven thirty six. Okay, Tennessee,
Speaker 1: it was a twenty six, twenty three game. They score
Speaker 1: in the overtime. Mario touchdown pass touchdown pass to Corey Davis,
Speaker 1: one of his career I matched up against another first
Speaker 1: round picking Carson Wentz. There, Houston wins in overtime. Thirty
Speaker 1: seven thirty four was the final score. Oakland and Cleveland.
Speaker 1: You got two Texas quarterbacks, Derek Carr, who went to
Speaker 1: high school in Texas and Baker Mayfield. Forty five forty
Speaker 1: two is the final score. Breeze another Texas quarterback thirty
Speaker 1: three points against the Giants. Any of these guys play
Speaker 1: for Texas? No Okay, Charger and the Chargers beat the
Speaker 1: nine Ers twenty nine, twenty seven. It's all over the league.
Speaker 1: So wait, miss, and then last night you got the
Speaker 1: twenty seven, twenty three game. Miss. Trumbisky had six touchdowns,
Speaker 1: six touchdown passes. You know the Cowboys have six touchdowns
Speaker 1: on the season. I think, do you know? Do you
Speaker 1: know the only Bears quarterback to throw for more than
Speaker 1: six in a game? Jack kin Cannon said Luckman that way,
Speaker 1: I know, I know that's we need forty three? What
Speaker 1: number did said Luckman wear? Mickey, you remember this one?
Speaker 1: I do not forty two? Forty two? That sounds right.
Speaker 1: So what did you go with your dad to the game? Yes,
Speaker 1: I did it Wrigley Field. Jack was doing against Wrigley Field. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they played it before Soldier Field, but a Field played
Speaker 1: sixty against them. They played it Wrigley through the sixties,
Speaker 1: I think, and it was some point in the seventies
Speaker 1: when they kind of refurbished soldiers Field to make it
Speaker 1: love NFL ready. Yeah, I love that place. Yeah, except
Speaker 1: for how they kind of tried to redo it and
Speaker 1: the spaceship in the middle, like they landed a spaceship
Speaker 1: on something from the eighteen hundreds, you know, Soldier Field
Speaker 1: before it was really crazy, said Luckman, come on, but
Speaker 1: your but your point is well taken, though, I mean,
Speaker 1: is you know, I'm just this defense though. I mean,
Speaker 1: I I want to people, I want to feel good
Speaker 1: about the secondary, and I just maybe it was just
Speaker 1: one of those things. Maybe you just caught a really
Speaker 1: great quarterback and you caught a great group of receivers
Speaker 1: that you made circus catches. You know, maybe this week
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen, you know, I mean, I I'm with Rob.
Speaker 1: I think a Woozier played well. And I asked Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett this in the walk off. How do you coach
Speaker 1: something like that? You just hey, maybe you say your
Speaker 1: hand here, your feet here, you know, body position here,
Speaker 1: but overall, I didn't think that a Woozier was in
Speaker 1: terrible shape playing those some of the passes that staffered through.
Speaker 1: You know that you have great coverage, but maybe that's
Speaker 1: what the NFL has become. You know, that's a lot
Speaker 1: of great passers. So every week you've got to be
Speaker 1: ready for you know, a circus place such such a
Speaker 1: stress on a defense. Yeah, with even if you get pressure,
Speaker 1: you know, even if you get pressure, I mean, and
Speaker 1: I just me watching that tape and you guys seeing
Speaker 1: the game as well, maybe going back and looking at yourselves.
Speaker 1: If they didn't get the pressure they did, that those
Speaker 1: numbers could have been worse. That's the bottom line. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's I mean, if you don't get that pressure. This
Speaker 1: is if this is Cowboy teams of five, six, seven
Speaker 1: years ago where we didn't see enough pressure, and you're
Speaker 1: in every week we're coming on our show saying, oh,
Speaker 1: they don't get enough pressure. Get you know, man, that
Speaker 1: game could have been That could have been one of
Speaker 1: your fifth year sixty points. Well with the way the
Speaker 1: way that guy was throwing there, And that's why I
Speaker 1: was so important for the Cowboys to do what they
Speaker 1: did offensively in that game, and they controlled the game.
Speaker 1: They controlled the ball okay with their run game and
Speaker 1: made it just enough plays in the passing game. But
Speaker 1: to your point, you know, DeMarcus Lawrence got one of
Speaker 1: his sacks on the first possession of the second half.
Speaker 1: Sure you know the Lions only had the ball three
Speaker 1: times in the second half. They scored touchdowns on two
Speaker 1: of them. So that's the bottom line. Pressure, that's the
Speaker 1: only way you're gonna stop this stuff. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: enough pressure. Remember when we were talking about getting ready
Speaker 1: for the Giants. How do you how do you stop
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior? Well you stop, but Eli Manning right,
Speaker 1: the pressure. You can't cover all this stuff, and you're
Speaker 1: gonna have busted coverages, right, it's gonna happen. No one
Speaker 1: plays perfectly. You got to get to the quarterbacks in
Speaker 1: this league, and if you can't, you're gonna get You
Speaker 1: better score a bunch of points otherwise you're in trouble.
Speaker 1: The same thing in college, right, Yeah, I mean you're
Speaker 1: gonna put up. If you don't score thirty forty points
Speaker 1: a game, you got a shot. What's more important now
Speaker 1: than our defense or the offense can't find offensive lineman. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: can't mean that Vikings game is a great example. It
Speaker 1: was a thirty eight thirty one game and these are
Speaker 1: two of the best defenses in the league supposedly. Yeah no,
Speaker 1: that's a good point. But you know what, you still
Speaker 1: got to be built defensively because when you get to
Speaker 1: the playoffs, these scores, these totals drop, they always do.
Speaker 1: But you gotta have enough offense to win. And you
Speaker 1: do ask Jacksonville, you do. But Philadelphia lit up Minnesota,
Speaker 1: didn't they on in that championship game playing with just
Speaker 1: strictly offense. Okay, maybe you're right, No, no, no, I
Speaker 1: don't mean that. No, I'm not trying to bust on
Speaker 1: you here. Maybe maybe this team is this gonna sound terrible,
Speaker 1: but maybe this team has built the wrong way if
Speaker 1: you think of what trends are going to not if
Speaker 1: you can run the football three possessions the second half,
Speaker 1: there you go. Why did that happen? Yeah, there was
Speaker 1: an eight minute drive. Now unfortunately for the Cowboys it
Speaker 1: turned into a field goal. Yeah, but it was an
Speaker 1: eight but got ten minute drive, we'd have been in
Speaker 1: better shape. Yeah, there you go. Can't let nicky here,
Speaker 1: I come down and call those players at the end.
Speaker 1: That's not too hard to click Mickey, click over and say, Brian,
Speaker 1: run the ball here, police want me. You're good talking
Speaker 1: about that lesson on Christmas Eve. But but but okay,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys equipped then to have to play this kind
Speaker 1: of game defensively with the pressure and with what we
Speaker 1: feel the cornerbacks can do. See you're almost you're almost
Speaker 1: better selling out. And if you have to create pressure,
Speaker 1: blitz just make the quarterback to his point, to his
Speaker 1: point because they get vandersh and coverage on the outside
Speaker 1: with Riddick, and Vanderesh falls down, and that was the
Speaker 1: blitz that they sent, the fake, the fake cover and
Speaker 1: blitz with Smith on the outside, they get vandersh and
Speaker 1: coverage and they're going it's a double move and he
Speaker 1: falls and you could tell Stafford is looking to throw
Speaker 1: the ball that way. But the pressure with Read and
Speaker 1: then on the backside with Lawrence and then with what's
Speaker 1: coming up the middle. Sometimes when you blitz, you affect
Speaker 1: the way that the play is going to develop. Because
Speaker 1: if if Vanderesh falls, if he gets that ball off,
Speaker 1: it's going to be a big game down the sidelines
Speaker 1: because because he's in the middle of the field and
Speaker 1: he has to honor golden take coming inside to him.
Speaker 1: So sometimes Mike Mickey says, you just got to sell
Speaker 1: out and hope you get home to affect the way
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks playing in these games. Going into last night,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had fourteen sacks. They were third in the league.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened with the top two. Chicago
Speaker 1: Bears had eighteen and the Colts thanks to the seven,
Speaker 1: ye have seventeen and they've given up fourteen sacks too.
Speaker 1: Yeah the Cowboys here. Yeah, Well, a lot of this
Speaker 1: two goes back to what's David Irving going to give you?
Speaker 1: Is first game back, assuming he's back for this game.
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Speaker 1: I would think Jim Nance and Tony Romo are doing that.
Speaker 1: You know, when I was kind of hurt, not looking ahead,
Speaker 1: but it sounds like Leonard Fournette is out, Yeah the
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. Yeah, he's out indefinitely. So my
Speaker 1: sports stance, you know, you do when you're your team,
Speaker 1: you always think about that, like, Okay, he doesn't have
Speaker 1: to play. Don't let him be hurt bad, but don't
Speaker 1: let him have to play against us. It sound like
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette, my favorite Eliy Tyler guy, is not going
Speaker 1: to play that week. So that's a good that's a
Speaker 1: good thing. Yeah, it's a hamstring. I think hamstring. He
Speaker 1: reaggravated their game against the Jets the other day. We
Speaker 1: know about hamstrings, yes, we do. All right, we'll get
Speaker 1: to David Irving in just a second. But we're one
Speaker 1: quarter of the way through this season, right and we've
Speaker 1: had so we've had four games now to kind of
Speaker 1: get a read on teams in this league. And I
Speaker 1: don't know that we have a full read at all
Speaker 1: on teams in this league. But I'm looking at the
Speaker 1: Cowboys schedule and you break it down by quarters, and
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season, I thought, when you
Speaker 1: look at the schedule that they need to get off
Speaker 1: to a fast start three and one would really be
Speaker 1: nice the first quarter of the season, because if you
Speaker 1: look later in the year, it looked to me like
Speaker 1: the schedule gets tougher later in the year. Now that
Speaker 1: may I don't know. Now, let's I want to take
Speaker 1: a quick look here. All right, they're two and two,
Speaker 1: and I think the first quarter I don't think you
Speaker 1: could the way when you look at how young the
Speaker 1: team is and so forth, that was probably as good
Speaker 1: as you could expect them to be after the first
Speaker 1: quarter of the season, with a lot of the change
Speaker 1: that they had, right and yeah yeah, and thank actually
Speaker 1: playing well at home and losing them on the road,
Speaker 1: which is kind of opposite what they normally do. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: And thank god for Brett Mohurst field goal. Otherwise it
Speaker 1: would be the sky would be falling. Did we be
Speaker 1: in South America? Did you hear that on the fan
Speaker 1: of No, I didn't hear it. He said he looked
Speaker 1: at or Stephen poked him in the in the ribs
Speaker 1: right before Brett kicked the field goal, and he said,
Speaker 1: if if he misses this, we're headed to South America's
Speaker 1: pretty good. It's a great line, that is, all right,
Speaker 1: So a lot riding on that kid or Jerry talking
Speaker 1: about shriveling up? What did he says? He said, he said,
Speaker 1: I I'm glad I didn't have to go out and
Speaker 1: kick that one, because I would shriveling up. Okay. So,
Speaker 1: second quarter of the season at Houston, Yeah, Jacksonville at
Speaker 1: another division leader by the Washington bye, and then Tennessee,
Speaker 1: which has been one of the surprise Yeah they're by,
Speaker 1: and then Tennessee, which has been one of the surprise
Speaker 1: teams in the league, having just defeated Philadelphia and Jacksonville
Speaker 1: by the way, they're in one. Yeah. Okay, So and
Speaker 1: you got a still desperate Houston team you start it
Speaker 1: off with, you do? Okay? So is the second quarter
Speaker 1: of the season tougher than the first quarter of the season?
Speaker 1: I would say, yes, sounds like if you can go
Speaker 1: two and two again, you might take it. You'll take
Speaker 1: four and fourth a halfway point, all right? And then okay,
Speaker 1: the third quarter, Okay, let's just which is the toughest
Speaker 1: quarter coming up here? Okay? You got that that money?
Speaker 1: All right? The third quarter at Philly at Atlanta Thanksgiving
Speaker 1: against Washington, and then the following Thursday against New Orleans.
Speaker 1: There you go, that's it. That's it. That's all I
Speaker 1: needed to hear, and then take the problem. The problem
Speaker 1: you run into with that one is is it's gonna
Speaker 1: have to come down on your defense again because we
Speaker 1: I don't just don't see this team. Oh, Atlanta is
Speaker 1: not I mean Atlanta offense is there. Yes. The problem
Speaker 1: is the problem is you're playing teams that score high
Speaker 1: volumes of points. The Saints give up a lot of points.
Speaker 1: The Falcons give up a lot of points. We don't
Speaker 1: really know. The Redskins have kind of been a little
Speaker 1: bit back and forth. But I worry about playing teams
Speaker 1: that have score. They can score. Yeah, that's what I
Speaker 1: worry about them. That's Atlanta. Yeah, Cincinnati just went in
Speaker 1: there and beat them thirty seven thirties. They're given up
Speaker 1: a ton of points, and the Cowboys go in there
Speaker 1: and win thirty seven thirty six. Can you to beat
Speaker 1: these teams? You're gonna have to really play ugly football,
Speaker 1: Like Mickey says, run run the ball, just keep running
Speaker 1: the ball, and if hopefully you can have ten minute drives.
Speaker 1: Now it's not every week you can do that. They
Speaker 1: did in two thousand and sixteen. But Atlanta is not
Speaker 1: as strong a team now as they were. And the
Speaker 1: same thing if you talk about this quarter that we're
Speaker 1: just or the quarter we're about to start the new quarter.
Speaker 1: I thought that Houston and Jacksonville back to back, both
Speaker 1: could potentially be losses. Yeah, you know, I worried about
Speaker 1: I said, Okay, going to Houston's not going to be easy,
Speaker 1: you know, with that whole thing with defensively, how they
Speaker 1: play offensively, with the quarterback and all that. I thought
Speaker 1: they were gonna be able to run the ball better.
Speaker 1: They haven't run it at all. So I think now
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, maybe a split there and then take
Speaker 1: your chances with Washington and get to the buy we have.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have had a great history against against Jay
Speaker 1: Gruden and their Washington Redskins, you know, and then last
Speaker 1: year you did beat you know, Alex Smith when they
Speaker 1: was with a pretty good Kansas City team. So I'm
Speaker 1: kind of thinking, now, you know, if you can kind
Speaker 1: of get through this stretch. But I just worry about
Speaker 1: teams that can score a lot of points. Sure, I
Speaker 1: said that last week with Detroit. It's like, Okay, Matt
Speaker 1: Stafford is gonna put up something in the twenties, So
Speaker 1: can the Cowboys break this thirteen points a game thing?
Speaker 1: And when you look at it, Okay, defensively they made
Speaker 1: some mistakes. Twenty four points. I could live with that,
Speaker 1: but you got to be able to score points and
Speaker 1: match them. And they were able to have four field
Speaker 1: goals too that game. Yea, they got one, you got four? Yeah. Well.
Speaker 1: And then the final quarter of the season is at
Speaker 1: home against Philadelphia at Indianapolis, which he's a better team
Speaker 1: than we thought they were coming in, although who knows
Speaker 1: what they'll be like in December. And then Tampa Bay,
Speaker 1: which the first two weeks scored a lot of points.
Speaker 1: What are they don't know? Chamis Yeah, and then they
Speaker 1: finish at the Giants. I think that. I think if
Speaker 1: you're playing can get to December, If you could get
Speaker 1: to December and have a two game cushion, you can
Speaker 1: find a way to run that month. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to do if you want to win
Speaker 1: the division you're getting. I think the best thing that's
Speaker 1: happened is Philadelphia is the same record as you are.
Speaker 1: You know, nobody, nobody's running away with this division. You
Speaker 1: know you worried about Okay, Dallas two and two. If
Speaker 1: you said, oh wait, Philadelphia could be four and oh
Speaker 1: that that would have been my worry right there, that
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's a well, yeah, two game
Speaker 1: lead already, Billy ran away with it last year. So
Speaker 1: then you were down to, well, you got one or
Speaker 1: two spots you can get. Philly's beautiful now, Jill's even
Speaker 1: with Carson Wentz playing and everything they've got, They're not Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Their offensive line hasn't played nearly as well as you know,
Speaker 1: you talk about the Cowboys offensive line having some issues,
Speaker 1: I think the Philadelphia Eagles are having just as many
Speaker 1: problems as the Cowboys are. So I saw two headlines
Speaker 1: today when I was going through the internet. One was
Speaker 1: is it not too soon to fire Jason Garrett? Who
Speaker 1: wrote that name the outlet? Yeah, who wrote the Dallas
Speaker 1: Morning News? Okay? And then I think it was ESPN
Speaker 1: dot Com. Are the Dallas Cowboys a threat to the
Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles in the East? There you go, So that
Speaker 1: those both appeared within one week span. Yeah, So that
Speaker 1: kind of tells you about I think National Football League.
Speaker 1: You know what, if they run the football the way
Speaker 1: they are, you know it's gonna be tough. I mean,
Speaker 1: the Eagles. We know what the Eagles are up front.
Speaker 1: But I'm going to take my chances with this now.
Speaker 1: I mean they've lost a couple of games, lost to Tampa,
Speaker 1: lost to Tennessee. I didn't expect him to lose those games, right,
Speaker 1: So I'll take my chances playing Philadelphia. Say, and if
Speaker 1: you think back to last year, the two games that
Speaker 1: separated the Cowboys from where they were and being in
Speaker 1: the playoffs is the two games they scored thirty points, yeah,
Speaker 1: and loss because they gave up thirty five, got beat
Speaker 1: thirty five, thirty five, thirty one rams and packing. So
Speaker 1: they scored, Yeah, they just got outscored. Right. So okay,
Speaker 1: that's my question again for the panel. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to lean on the defense. You're gonna have to lean
Speaker 1: on the offense. Do you have enough confidence now just
Speaker 1: through one game, which you've seen, I mean, the defense
Speaker 1: had had a rough one. They had a rough one
Speaker 1: which was some busted, busted players. But the blitzing, the pressure,
Speaker 1: all that seems to be fine. But now through through
Speaker 1: week or a quarter two, are you gonna have to
Speaker 1: lean on your defense or you're gonna have to lean
Speaker 1: on your offense. I still, overall through four games, feel
Speaker 1: better about the defense even without Sean Lee. Um, we
Speaker 1: never thought we'd say that. Well yeah, and and hey
Speaker 1: that remains to be seen too. We need to because
Speaker 1: it doesn't sound like Sean's gonna play this week again.
Speaker 1: And we'll just see after this week. Um, but Jacksonville
Speaker 1: having it back would be nice, Yeah, it would, it would,
Speaker 1: But then they consider, well, we get to buy the
Speaker 1: next week at Washington, Washington, Washington, so so uh maybe
Speaker 1: you need for that division game. Who's after? So Washington's
Speaker 1: after these next two, right, yeah, and then then at
Speaker 1: Philly at Atlanta. So until they get to Philly at Atlanta,
Speaker 1: depending on how they're playing, Matthew Stafford is going to
Speaker 1: be the best quarterback Dave played, right, Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: Watson this week. Now we'll see if Watson starts. They
Speaker 1: got out. They got lit up for twenty four points
Speaker 1: by a guy that was throwing dimes in a bucket.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, you know this wasn't Bozo's circus where
Speaker 1: they had the little ball from five feet away into
Speaker 1: the bucket. I remember that, Mickey. You still a little
Speaker 1: ups right, little right? Yeah, yeah, that's true, I mean
Speaker 1: it's designed to fail some of those Some of those
Speaker 1: passes he threw were absolutely ridiculous. I still feel good
Speaker 1: about the young corners, and you know, Heath can play
Speaker 1: better than he played before he got hurt, both safeties,
Speaker 1: both safeties. I do think David Irving can give you
Speaker 1: a lift. He has shown before. He has shown before
Speaker 1: he can step in off of off suspension and do
Speaker 1: something freak of nature. Is that what I heard yesterday? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: freaking nature. I think Jerry repeated that. Yeah. Now the
Speaker 1: offense is encouraging. They got back to what they do best.
Speaker 1: So I think there there's some encouraging signs there. But defensively,
Speaker 1: through four games, you got to feel better. I think
Speaker 1: about the defense has done even without Sean because these
Speaker 1: linebackers are balling right now. Now, if I can just
Speaker 1: get some takeaways that yes, they're dead last I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what that guy did he if you get if
Speaker 1: you well, zero picks and but let's be honest. They
Speaker 1: recovered two really important fumbles in that game the other day.
Speaker 1: They happen to be their own. Yeah, Dak Prescott's recovered
Speaker 1: his and Ezekiel Elliott that fumble got recovered by you know,
Speaker 1: by Jarwin. Yeah, so those are two. Really you might
Speaker 1: not have any turnovers, but those might be the two
Speaker 1: most important fumbles you've recovered all year. Those offensive fumble
Speaker 1: drills they're doing out there is paying what can magic?
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Jim and California. Jim, you
Speaker 1: are on Talking Cowboys. Good morning, guys, Thanks for taking
Speaker 1: my call. Hey, I'm wondering why we keep going zone
Speaker 1: on third and long when we brought in Chris Roshard
Speaker 1: to have the players play press man and disrupt the
Speaker 1: ralph by time for the rush. If we only want
Speaker 1: to go with the four man riss, why aren't we
Speaker 1: running two men with two safeties over the top to
Speaker 1: clean things up with the kid gets away. I also
Speaker 1: think Leo Collins had a good game last Sunday. And
Speaker 1: I think Jalen Smith is still gimpy. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's here one hundred percent. You could watch him. It's
Speaker 1: hard to redirect. I think he's a one trick pony.
Speaker 1: Put him on tracks and let him do his thing
Speaker 1: and blow stuff up. Okay, I'll let you go. Thank
Speaker 1: You know what I think. And you know they might
Speaker 1: be playing They might be playing zone coverage. We don't
Speaker 1: know if Christira Shard's calling that zone coverage. You know,
Speaker 1: you could say, well, we brought Christi Shard in to
Speaker 1: do this. I understand. I appreciate the guy's analysis, I
Speaker 1: really do, But you know, Christoph Shard, I mean it's
Speaker 1: probably saying, Okay, I play enough, man, I've got to
Speaker 1: play some zone here, you know, mix some things up,
Speaker 1: kind of give a little bit of different read. We
Speaker 1: don't know that it could be Rod Marinelli calling that,
Speaker 1: or it could be Christirah Shard. So aren't like when
Speaker 1: they zoned on second and twelve and thirty eight and
Speaker 1: then play it covered three very strongly. Yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: back to execution. It comes back to execution. Sometimes they're
Speaker 1: as far as as far as Jalen I. You know what,
Speaker 1: I I'm not going to sit there and say that
Speaker 1: I think his I think that his ability at times
Speaker 1: during games comes and goes. I think there's times where
Speaker 1: you see him play really quick, and then there's some
Speaker 1: times where he does get caught. And I understand again
Speaker 1: the evaluation of that, but I think you're seeing far
Speaker 1: more quicker plays from him than you did the like
Speaker 1: he was running in mud place. It's way different than
Speaker 1: last year, and it's perfect. You see. You know you
Speaker 1: talk about putting him on a track and all that.
Speaker 1: I think that was very evident last year, but this
Speaker 1: year I don't agree. I don't agree with it because
Speaker 1: I think I've seen far more plays of him lateral
Speaker 1: ability than I have the non lateral ability. But good
Speaker 1: evaluation on his part of me. And if you're if
Speaker 1: that's hey, people watch the stuff. If I never fault
Speaker 1: to anybody that tries to watch it, tries to study it,
Speaker 1: and you know, gets her an opinion. Up until this
Speaker 1: game when they've hitting third and long and they've gone
Speaker 1: to zone, they did a good job of forcing the
Speaker 1: ball underneath and coming up and tack tackling. That's his game.
Speaker 1: They didn't tack Now, Golden Tate. Is he a little
Speaker 1: different than everybody different? Yeah, I mean he's he's kind
Speaker 1: of been on their side no matter you know, where
Speaker 1: he's at and when you've got and when you've got
Speaker 1: a lead late in the game like that. Isn't that
Speaker 1: Probably it's conservative, But yeah, you're thinking nothing over the top,
Speaker 1: Nothing over the top. Against the Giants, they just could
Speaker 1: played that zone the whole second half. Basically, you're absolutely
Speaker 1: until you get a busted coverage. And they busted the covers.
Speaker 1: Actually they busted the coverage is kind of in zone
Speaker 1: against Seattle. Yeah, And one of the problems with Golden
Speaker 1: Tate is he's basically like a running back plan at
Speaker 1: wide receiver and his yards after catch are absolutely insane. Yeah,
Speaker 1: great player now, David Irving, Yes, he will be. He
Speaker 1: will not. The decision on whether he is Saturday three
Speaker 1: won't be made until Saturday. They have a roster exemption. Exactly,
Speaker 1: got fifty four guys right now. It's what they're playing
Speaker 1: with right well, including the you know then not cluding
Speaker 1: the practice squad guys. But they're practicing with fifty four guys.
Speaker 1: And like I would imagine he plays in this game.
Speaker 1: But I believe Jason Garrett when he says, truly, we
Speaker 1: have to see how he functions in practice. They have
Speaker 1: not had him in a practice since what June. I
Speaker 1: wonder if it's out of necessity that they're going to
Speaker 1: have to play June. That's why I think. So, Yeah,
Speaker 1: did he practice? Well, wasn't he there for us there?
Speaker 1: Didn't really enjoying the training table. He was rehabbing, right,
Speaker 1: we have to go back. He didn't. He didn't, he
Speaker 1: didn't practice December, right, Yeah, okay, so that even Philadelphia
Speaker 1: forces my point. Yeah, yeah, I'm with Brian though. They
Speaker 1: need him, especially with if Antoine Woods can't go and
Speaker 1: Malik is still if he a little bit um, they
Speaker 1: need him. But he Coach Garrett sounded like that the
Speaker 1: Human Log was going to be able to practice a
Speaker 1: little bit this week. Bleek. I think he'll at least
Speaker 1: be questionable this week. Yeah wait, wait, wait what ye
Speaker 1: human Log? The human Log, that's what he calls himself,
Speaker 1: the Human Log. Yeah, Antoine Woods. Apparently I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: Now he's been brought that to my attention. He's been
Speaker 1: out on the chords and he's moving. He was moving
Speaker 1: last Friday. Now there's a lot of tape on that
Speaker 1: need Yeah, if they yeah, if they get if they
Speaker 1: get Collins out there, and they get the Human Log
Speaker 1: out there, and they get David Irvan out there, then
Speaker 1: you know, with Crawford Woods, I guess I thought knew.
Speaker 1: I think Nate knew. I thought Nate new Newton gave
Speaker 1: the nickname. They will come up with that. I think
Speaker 1: he gave I think he gave it to himself. Those
Speaker 1: are the best ones. Yeah, when you get your own
Speaker 1: self and nickname, yeah, why not. But but to be
Speaker 1: something they like to do that. But if they could
Speaker 1: get if they could get that rotation inside going again,
Speaker 1: you know, that's how that's how you're gonna create some problems,
Speaker 1: you know, on the edge, especially on Nickel. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: you can put you got Crawford in there, and you
Speaker 1: can put Irving in there and it's like, let's go.
Speaker 1: We might have seen the last bit of dime they're
Speaker 1: gonna play this year. One play. That's that's that's unfortunate
Speaker 1: that kid, you know, And a lot of folks have asked, well,
Speaker 1: what's wrong with Jordan Lewis, you know, And it's not
Speaker 1: not that that wasn't the reason why. I mean, he
Speaker 1: drew a tough challenge their golden tate, the route, the
Speaker 1: catch he's gonna make you miss. You know, it just
Speaker 1: looks bad the way. It just wasn't a very good position.
Speaker 1: And that was the only snap they played. You know,
Speaker 1: they went in with the intention of playing some dime
Speaker 1: in that game and trying to get that package going again.
Speaker 1: And it's tough when hey Jordan, this is your opportunity. Well, snap,
Speaker 1: golden tap, here's the deal I related to broadcasting. Okay,
Speaker 1: you got to play by play guy and the analysts
Speaker 1: up in the booth and they're talking for three hours,
Speaker 1: and they might make twelve mistakes. Yeah, Or I'll speak
Speaker 1: for myself. I might make twelve mistakes during a three
Speaker 1: hour broadcast. But if I'm the sideline reporter and I've
Speaker 1: got twenty seconds to get it right, yeah, and I
Speaker 1: make one little mistake and you're hunting in there, I
Speaker 1: always put you on camera for it, and you stumble
Speaker 1: over your words. Whatever, Well, he's a terrible signment or
Speaker 1: she's a terrible sideline report. Yeah, exactly right. We're not
Speaker 1: going back. We're not going back to you. We're not
Speaker 1: going back to you. It's there's so much there's so
Speaker 1: much more pressure on that sideline reporter who's got fifteen
Speaker 1: seconds to spit it out exactly right, than it is
Speaker 1: for the play by play guy who's got three hours
Speaker 1: and makes you know you bred Marfields. Well, hopefully they Hey,
Speaker 1: game's on the line. But right there's your fourth time
Speaker 1: being out here. Good luck. Well, hopefully this doesn't affect
Speaker 1: the way that he you know, I think he was.
Speaker 1: To be honest, week you watching body language and stuff,
Speaker 1: he's probably down. He's not playing, you know he's you
Speaker 1: look at it. You watch. Yeah, he's naturally very confident guy.
Speaker 1: You're right, And the fact that he's not playing, you
Speaker 1: know you're kind of thinking, Okay, well, Anthony Brown has
Speaker 1: not been terrible. Anthony Brown had a couple of bad
Speaker 1: plays the other day. But I just I just I
Speaker 1: hope they don't lose this kid. I hope because he
Speaker 1: can play, He could play, and I think you're gonna
Speaker 1: need him, and that the third quarter of the season
Speaker 1: you're talking about Bill, they're gonna need him to play,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna need him to play well when when
Speaker 1: Drew Brees and Matt Ryan and those guys are throwing
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Speaker 1: Next up on Talking Cowboys. Hello Michael, Hey, guys, how
Speaker 1: you doing right? Good? A big fan, first time caller. Um,
Speaker 1: I just had observation and a question. So I noticed
Speaker 1: that this week we had a lot better execution and
Speaker 1: better play calling, but when we got to the red zone,
Speaker 1: there seemed to be a lot more passes, and I
Speaker 1: feel like last season we saw that a lot too,
Speaker 1: I didn't work, But in twenty sixteen we saw a
Speaker 1: lot of draw plays with Zeke and a lot of
Speaker 1: run pass options with deck Um. I was wondering if
Speaker 1: you guys think they go back to that because it
Speaker 1: seems more successful. And I'll hang up and listen to
Speaker 1: your replay. Thank you, Michael. Yes, and we've get received
Speaker 1: word that Brian and Mickey are going to call the
Speaker 1: plays once they get inside the ten yard line. Absolutely
Speaker 1: make it. Just cook over and say run it right here,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say you got it. I think it's
Speaker 1: easy for us to say that, but also should you
Speaker 1: just be stubborn and do it or should you react
Speaker 1: to what the defenses? Twenty one has made me stubborn? Yeah,
Speaker 1: twenty one. Twenty one has made me. Second and six,
Speaker 1: I'm handed to him again from the six yard line.
Speaker 1: First and six. He was getting six yards to carry
Speaker 1: for the game. Not saying he's going to down that deep. No,
Speaker 1: so he got to go an out second and four
Speaker 1: and see if he can get another two and then
Speaker 1: another two after that, and maybe another two after that.
Speaker 1: This this guy enjoys scoring touchdowns. I know, think about it.
Speaker 1: He does on the on the on the screenplay. So
Speaker 1: how it was how many yards? All right? When he
Speaker 1: had gotten eighteen yards and he was at the twenty,
Speaker 1: did you think he was scoring? Oh yeah, the way
Speaker 1: they stopped him. Yeah, when all three of those line
Speaker 1: on the buffet line at that point, there was no
Speaker 1: stopping me. Bill. I'm with you on this pretty good analogy.
Speaker 1: Remember when people made fun of me when I said
Speaker 1: this guy scores touchdowns, Never make fun of you. He
Speaker 1: scores Scott in front of your face. They don't. They did.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, you act like scoring touchdowns with skill?
Speaker 1: You know what it is. I like what Brian said,
Speaker 1: though this guy enjoys scoring touchdowns. He does. He likes
Speaker 1: to get that spoon out, just like I enjoy getting
Speaker 1: the spoon out at family family Thanksgiving and with the
Speaker 1: breedloves my in laws and blubb book. I always had
Speaker 1: to go last at the buffet because I would eat everything.
Speaker 1: And that's what Zeke does. That's everything. I'm just like
Speaker 1: pec man. He gobbles up those yards to the end zone.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep handing it to him, handed to him,
Speaker 1: handed to him, and then I'm gonna make that If
Speaker 1: they're good enough to stop me running the ball down there,
Speaker 1: then so be it. But the caller made a great point.
Speaker 1: I do love the RPO down around the end zone.
Speaker 1: They did use that in past years and they have
Speaker 1: had success doing that. But in that particular score too
Speaker 1: early on it against Green Bay. That's a good point.
Speaker 1: That's a good point. But yeah, handed to twenty one.
Speaker 1: Let him enjoy scoring touchdowns, all right, So we've saw that.
Speaker 1: Was it the touch was it against Seattle? Or when
Speaker 1: they got hit? Oh yeah at the five yard line
Speaker 1: and then he found the way to score a touchdown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I'm not I'm not taking was it a
Speaker 1: six yard remember six yard run for touchdown? Last week? Oh?
Speaker 1: Last week? I was thinking Seattle last year last week
Speaker 1: when they did not give the ball, they didn't give
Speaker 1: the ball to him on the ad. That was another
Speaker 1: one where I've outlost my mind right Christmas Eve last see,
Speaker 1: I this is just this is what amazes me about
Speaker 1: play calling is that you can you can have really
Speaker 1: good balance and get it down and they take they
Speaker 1: take eight minutes off the clock, and it's just beautiful
Speaker 1: to watch. You see desperation for the Lions. They're not
Speaker 1: making tackles. And then you get down there and it
Speaker 1: was like you in like all that driving of the ball. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you killed clock, but you only got three points and
Speaker 1: so you gotta you gotta do something different. You gotta
Speaker 1: get that, you know, the four they lost. In my opinion,
Speaker 1: they lost eight points in this game. This game shouldn't
Speaker 1: have been It shouldn't have been as tight as it
Speaker 1: was the past down to Austin. Great call finish, you know,
Speaker 1: the play down on the goal line. Okay, I understand
Speaker 1: trying to get Rico involved in all that. And let's
Speaker 1: see it at the time before it works. First in
Speaker 1: goal at the one and Swain catches a touchdown. Yeah
Speaker 1: and I and I one argues no, No, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I lost my mind on that one too, because I
Speaker 1: just don't I call it being cute, mickey, you know,
Speaker 1: you know and I but okay, in that point in
Speaker 1: time of the game, if you want to get cute
Speaker 1: and it works, I'm all for you there. But that
Speaker 1: when you have a drive where you are just killing
Speaker 1: them running the football and you're killing them on the
Speaker 1: clock and they have no answer. Just go for the throat,
Speaker 1: you know, just end it for him right there, take
Speaker 1: if it, even if they stop, you kill a couple
Speaker 1: of minutes off the clock. Don't give that quarterback anything.
Speaker 1: That was Yeah, that was the other part of it.
Speaker 1: I'm not giving I'm learning these quarterbacks. Okay, I'm learning
Speaker 1: Eli Manning. I don't care. I'll give you all the
Speaker 1: time you want. You're not gonna score. But these guys
Speaker 1: like Breeze, Staffords, Rogers don't give them any times. By
Speaker 1: the way, he's up there, huh by the way down
Speaker 1: and scored Pat. But da back on the Monday night
Speaker 1: game last night for just a second, Okay, what was
Speaker 1: the biggest play in that? Did y'all watch the end
Speaker 1: of the game, the last couple of minutes. Sorry, all right,
Speaker 1: we're talking all this talk about Patrick Mahomes. Okay, there
Speaker 1: was one play. If it gets completed, then the Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes is not on every network this morning. It's case
Speaker 1: Keenomen was wide open at the two yard line. It
Speaker 1: was basically a stopping go up the sideline and he
Speaker 1: stutter go and he was wide open. Any overthrown them
Speaker 1: and they came in. They had come back with a
Speaker 1: minute half left, and and even the Monday Night crew
Speaker 1: they were on the last play. They had one more
Speaker 1: play after that and they tried to run a hook
Speaker 1: and lateral and it did work whatever, and they were
Speaker 1: dwelling on that. Well, the play they needed to dwell
Speaker 1: on was the play before that, right, Denver had the
Speaker 1: game one right there. They had driven down and it
Speaker 1: was right there and they didn't hit. Now there was
Speaker 1: a quarterback that didn't connect in case case Keenum's not
Speaker 1: off to a great start with Denver so far this year.
Speaker 1: It's like, and how do you let that guy get
Speaker 1: that far right exactly? Situation? Yeah, So, I mean there's
Speaker 1: issues all over the lea, you know, execution. But what
Speaker 1: one other touchdowns they handed it to Hunt like at
Speaker 1: the four or five years, that was the one that
Speaker 1: gave them down. Yeah, they yeah, took the lead on
Speaker 1: it was yard line and yeah they ran it in
Speaker 1: and he ran for one hundred and twenty one yards
Speaker 1: last night's game. I could call plays inside the five
Speaker 1: with number twenty one. I really can, yeah, because I
Speaker 1: just called the running and I look at and I
Speaker 1: look at now I'm a little nervous about my tight ends.
Speaker 1: But I look at seventy seven. I look at you know,
Speaker 1: look at I look at you know, Zach Martin standing there,
Speaker 1: you know, LOLd Collins. I'm thinking, Okay, I can run
Speaker 1: this thing in there with these guys, I can, you know.
Speaker 1: I mean, now, if I got the Texans offensive line,
Speaker 1: I might be some doing some trickery here. But I'm
Speaker 1: not with not with this back and not with that
Speaker 1: offensive line. I don't know what they're built for. Honestly,
Speaker 1: that's why they To me, it's the It's the most
Speaker 1: immoralizing thing in a game. I remember sitting on the
Speaker 1: other end of it and sitting the press when somebody's
Speaker 1: running the football on you and you can't stop him.
Speaker 1: The game just it it's like it's melting, you know,
Speaker 1: and you and you just go, please get me out
Speaker 1: of here, you know, to drop back ten yards, dig
Speaker 1: a ditch and try and save the equipment. They're killing
Speaker 1: us here, you know. And it is, I mean, it's
Speaker 1: tough when you get somebody to moralize you that way
Speaker 1: running the ball. So where the offensive line played against
Speaker 1: Detroit was that the most encouraging thing that came out
Speaker 1: of that game. Yes, yeah, I don't think. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean a lot of times he's got to throw the
Speaker 1: ball away on one of those. Even with all the
Speaker 1: Pro bowlers on this Cowboys offensive line, every season, it
Speaker 1: does it usually takes a few weeks for the offensive
Speaker 1: line to get into sync. Well, I'll tell you what. Now,
Speaker 1: not having Ziggions out there helped a lot too for them.
Speaker 1: I mean, now this week we'll see it's a business
Speaker 1: going to be a much different test. Clowney played the
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien yesterday said Clowney played the best game of
Speaker 1: his career. They move him around all over the place,
Speaker 1: and I guarantee you though they will move him, they
Speaker 1: will find to find to me, they put him in,
Speaker 1: they put him in standing up over the center, They
Speaker 1: rush him on the right side. Yet, yeah, what is
Speaker 1: what has like? Yeah, he's moving around a little bit better.
Speaker 1: Uh still has got that quick you know, his patent
Speaker 1: move is that quick arm over inside move. That's how
Speaker 1: he's like a penetrator. But with Clowney, they bring him
Speaker 1: on twist stunts they bring I mean, he's just going
Speaker 1: all over the place. So I have a feeling that
Speaker 1: that he will they will move him over onto to
Speaker 1: Collin or Connor Williams. Well, yeah, Connor Williams. If they
Speaker 1: put him over Connor, they give him in the middle.
Speaker 1: That's I'm saying. They stood him up and just had
Speaker 1: him just attack the middle of a pocket on like
Speaker 1: a special rush where it was like, it's the same
Speaker 1: thing if you it's he's he's the same player as Lawrence.
Speaker 1: He's the same player Lawrence. I think he plays the
Speaker 1: run a little bit better, but this guy still can
Speaker 1: be disrupted more. Yeah, they move this guy around to
Speaker 1: try and create problems, so they're still in a three four. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Did you notice? Did you notice what Kansas City did
Speaker 1: to Denver on those three at three four when they
Speaker 1: wanted to run the ball. They had their big old
Speaker 1: offensive lineman pulling and hitting their little skinny ass defensive ends. Wow, No,
Speaker 1: they did. Huh who DIDs he did? Last night? Again?
Speaker 1: A couple of those run plays, they just took them out.
Speaker 1: You know, you can have these great pass rushers up there,
Speaker 1: make them play the run, make them play the run.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's fair. That's always considered the weakness of
Speaker 1: the three four bass. Yeah, yeah, but yeah, you can
Speaker 1: you can stop the run into three four, otherwise people
Speaker 1: wouldn't run it. Bicky's never liked the three. He's always
Speaker 1: he has always hit anti three four. Most encouraging thing
Speaker 1: to me from the game is Dak and stepping up
Speaker 1: and making big throws down the field. But pass protection
Speaker 1: goes into that tip. He had a cleaner pocket, no
Speaker 1: question about it. Last week. Then he had the first
Speaker 1: three games. I'd be a little muddy this week to
Speaker 1: get ready. Do you have a most encouraging thing that
Speaker 1: came out of the game. Yeah, the offensive line, Okay,
Speaker 1: you got offense, they didn't I mean that finally didn't
Speaker 1: let the quarterback get hit ten times trying to throw
Speaker 1: the question, no question, which was ten times the first
Speaker 1: game too. Yeah. My most encouraging thing was they won.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's good. Good. Prove you right. Two and two
Speaker 1: headed to play the super Bowl in Houston on Sunday night,
Speaker 1: and y'all will be here to talk about it tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I'll probably be doing taking stuff and fair warning concrete
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Speaker 1: Mickey and Robber all all three of us run it tonight.
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