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I was there when the Steelers drafted 20 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: William Shakespeare. I was gonna say, remember complaining about that. 21 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: How could you pick the Notre Dame guy first? Yeah, uh, Bob. 22 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: The Steelers were very active. We haven't talked to you 23 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: since the free agents started free agency started. Actually haven't 24 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: talked to you in a while. But they were very 25 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:35,039 Speaker 1: active in free agency and UM took care of a 26 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: lot of what the perceived needs were. Yet, when we 27 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 1: talked to Kevin Colbert and Mike Tomlin at the UH 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: at the meetings last week, both of them said that 29 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: that would not preclude them from drafting, and what they 30 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: did in free agency wouldn't preclude them from drafting a 31 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: player at any one of those positions of guys that 32 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: they added to. I'm not buying that. I don't see 33 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: them drafting and into your offensive lineman in this draft. 34 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: That's the one position I can't quite believe. Yeah, well, 35 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't think it's gonna happen. 36 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:16,399 Speaker 1: But again, um, if um, you know they're sitting there 37 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: twenty for example, I won't say, let's say fifty second 38 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: and an offensive lineman with on their board was a 39 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: you know, medium high first round grade on him. I 40 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: don't think that they're gonna pass the guy just because 41 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: they signed Mason Cole, you know, and James Danielson. I'm 42 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: not I'm not disparaging either of those free agent signings 43 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,280 Speaker 1: either by saying that. I just, um, you know, you 44 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: don't it looks like you're pretty set at the offensive line. Um, 45 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: a couple of injuries and all of a sudden you're 46 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: not so um, you know. I I think that that's 47 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: the way they go into the draft. Do I think 48 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: it's likely that that they would pick um in an 49 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: offensive lineman in the first round or in the first 50 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: couple of days. No, I don't think it's likely, But 51 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna rule it out. I just that's just 52 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:15,920 Speaker 1: not the way they operate. Um. Agree with it, disagree 53 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 1: with it, love it, hate it. It is what it 54 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: is now. I mean, that's well said. I mean, if 55 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: there's someone that's sticking out like a sword climb on 56 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: their board and he's the guard center and whatever, what's 57 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: Kenyan's left, Kenny Green or I get that. Do you 58 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: think tackle is where do you think it is in 59 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: the priority scale? I mean, would I think it'd be 60 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: great to grab a third round guy to develop, But 61 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: I think they look at Chuokes and more as starters. Yeah, 62 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: I don't disagree with that, Um, But you know, a 63 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 1: couple of years ago they looked at Zach Banner as 64 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: a starter too. Before the first potal was over, he 65 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: was done for the year. You know again, Um, you 66 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: know the the Steeler's offense of line last year. I 67 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: was inexperienced and young and not very effective. I'm not 68 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: gonna say it was bad because, um, you know, the 69 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: youth and inexperience of some of those guys. I would 70 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: say they were bad. If they were older players and 71 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,239 Speaker 1: show they couldn't play in the league, then they're bad. 72 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: But when you're young and developing, I'll just say inexperienced 73 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: and young. Um, work in progress, works in progress. Yeah, 74 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: and I don't think that you know, Um, both of 75 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: the rookies who started on the offensive line last year 76 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: have some potential, you know, to develop into um, you know, 77 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: NFL starting caliber players. But so you have two tackles, Um, 78 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: I don't you know if if you go in with 79 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: those two, who's your third? Jo Hank? No not. I 80 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: mean to me, that's not good enough. Again, now I 81 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: I are you on that, But I mean, in worst 82 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: case scenario, he's a guy that can line up and 83 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:09,559 Speaker 1: play that position and do it to a an okay level. 84 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: He's not as good as it's not as good as start. 85 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: You don't want him starting, but playing four weeks in 86 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: a row either, right right right. You know there's veterans 87 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 1: out there you could get after the draft. That. But 88 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: the one thing that I'll say about Chocks a core 89 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: for that people seem to overlook with him a lot 90 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,920 Speaker 1: it is his availability. I mean, he's just he's he's 91 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: always you know, he doesn't get hurt. I would, but yeah, yeah, 92 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: so um yeah, I'm not I'm not this cumming Chocks either, 93 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 1: but I'm just saying that. You know, again, uh, I 94 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: don't believe that that you the Steelers, especially with this 95 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: roster that they're gonna take into the uh proceedings that 96 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: start April. I don't think you can look at anywhere 97 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: except maybe well the closest would be tight end and 98 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: even there where he said, we're set right right right right, um, 99 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: and you know, even a tight end, uh if And 100 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: I'm again I'm not talking about the first two days, 101 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: but you know, if something happens early on Saturday that 102 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: you know, presents you with an opportunity to add an 103 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: offensive tackle or you know a player like that. Um, 104 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: you know, I'm willing to consider it. I mean, I 105 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: really am, I would be. I don't think he turned 106 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: her nose up at anything. No, because again, where that 107 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,920 Speaker 1: roster is, Um, I don't think you can really say, well, 108 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: we don't need that. Yeah, I agree the place kicker. 109 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: You forgot placekicker. I'll give you that they do not 110 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: need a place kicker. Obviously, a lot of the conversation 111 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: this year is entered around the quarterback position, I think, 112 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: but he barely talked about it. Yeah, we kind of 113 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 1: saved that here for later in the segment. But I 114 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: I honestly think Bob and I don't I think I 115 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: know how you feel about this. I don't know that 116 00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: I would be in the market for a quarterback this 117 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: year because I want to see what Mitchell Robinsky is. Well, yeah, 118 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: I agree with you. And you know the point that 119 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: I continue to make, you know, with fans who asked 120 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: me about it is this, Let's pretend that Travisky wins 121 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: the competition with Mason Rudolph, which I think is a 122 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: pretty good Uh, that's a pretty good assumption. Yeah, So 123 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: he plays the season, he's eleven and three, as a starter, 124 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: complete sixty seven percent of his passes, twenty four touchdowns, 125 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: twelve interceptions. That's a rating of like he rushes for 126 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: almost five yards to carry and those Russia as a 127 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: conflict twenty nine more first downs and five more touchdowns. 128 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: You just described his two thousand eighteen seasons. I just did. 129 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 1: These numbers aren't random, and that's you know, because that 130 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: has happened in the NFL. Has done that in the NFL. 131 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: If you throw out his rookie season, his record as 132 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: a starter and thirteen, so essentially he's won two out 133 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: of every three of his starts since he was a rookie. 134 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: I mean you would take that. Oh yeah, but he 135 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: doesn't cost anything and if but my point though is 136 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: if you have drafted a quarterback, first, say what do 137 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: you then? What do you? What do you do in 138 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: h Yeah, I think you're probably trading Mitchell Drabinsky. Yeah, 139 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: And I mean what do you think you're gonna get 140 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: for him? I mean he's not you know, he's on 141 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: the trade market at that point. This is the way 142 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: team teams would look at him. Uh, he's a failed 143 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: high number one pick who's on his third team in 144 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: five years or six years whatever it is. Uh uh 145 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: and you know you get a I don't know, second 146 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: third day picked for the guy, um, and so you're 147 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: you're kind of treading water. And the only thing I'll 148 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: say about this, and this is what I think, Um, 149 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: but if the Steelers truly believe that they that they 150 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: can add a franchise quarterback picking one this year, do it. 151 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: But don't just pick a guy because he's the best 152 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: guy available just to pick because at one time I 153 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: think Tim cons was the best quarterback available in the 154 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: draft class JaMarcus Russell. I mean there's a million bad 155 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: ej Manuel right right right? Uh So anyway, that's UM. 156 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: And I just think that when um people start telling 157 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: me all of the things Malik Willis can do, my 158 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,320 Speaker 1: my responses, can he stopped the run? Because if he 159 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: can't stop the run, I don't know what he's contributing. 160 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: Certainly in all right, that leaves I want to talk 161 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: more quarterbacks with you, but I have to ask you 162 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: right now then. Can you sleep at night with this group? 163 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: This group? What's that, Wyatt? That's I'll sleep real good. 164 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: Can you sleep at night with the current group of 165 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: defensive linemen on the Steelers okay, but I mean I 166 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: might have nightmares. But let's be honest. Now, you're a 167 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,479 Speaker 1: guy that lives in his fears, like every day is Halloween. 168 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: Halloween is a pretty nice stay. What do you mean, 169 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: joyous occasion? Every you know? Um, So, all things being equal, though, 170 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 1: you're taking a defensive tackle in round one, if if, 171 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: if there's equal grades on every position, well you know, yes, 172 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: but let me just tell you this. The reality of 173 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: it is, they continue to argue and discuss until it 174 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: isn't equal. It isn't equal, and they put their board up. 175 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: There's not two guys who are exactly the same. There's 176 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: just not because then you know, you have a situation 177 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: like at some point you have to rank them. And 178 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: it's not a robust, robust defensive tackle class either. Yeah, 179 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: and those are the guys you gotta pick early, I 180 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: think this year because there aren't very many. Well, Bob, 181 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: you brought up Wyatt. Yeah, over Jordan Davis. He's already 182 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: twenty four years old. That would be outside the norm 183 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 1: for them to take a guy who's gonna turn twenty 184 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: five during the season. They haven't typically gone that route 185 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: in the first round. He's also had some off the 186 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 1: field stuff that maybe troubling. There you go ruining my 187 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just talking reality here. Like you know, 188 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: it's I didn't know that we're more than Jordan Davis 189 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: camp than Wyatt camp. But the thought process is the same, 190 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: and it might be wearing the Travis Jones and round 191 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 1: two camp if I can get if I can make 192 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: that happen, even if I have to trade up to 193 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: get him, Yeah, but then you're giving stuff away. I 194 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: would give stuff away for a really good football player 195 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 1: in round two because round what am I giving away 196 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 1: for a Round two pick of a fourth round pick 197 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: or something? You know, it's not as nearly as expensive. 198 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you do, Okay, But what I'm what I'm 199 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: saying though, is you know, seven draft picks is not 200 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 1: a lot of draft picks for this Frost. It's not. 201 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: You're right, um so. And the reason I like why 202 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: it more than George Davis is I don't think you 203 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: can have two down players in the NFL anymore. I 204 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: just don't. I don't care how good you are on 205 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: in those two downs in college, because you know what 206 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 1: happens in the NFL when you go in the game. 207 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: They don't do what you're you're good at stop. They 208 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,439 Speaker 1: will just not do that. You know. The guys in 209 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: the booth calls down to the other teams play caller 210 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: and says, let's just say what's it was his number 211 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: ninety whatever nine nine in the game? Um, And so 212 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: they throw the ball right, they'll throw it out of 213 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: their own end zone. They'll throw it on first down, 214 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: they'll throw it early in the first quarter. They'll throw 215 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: the ball, or they'll they'll they'll put three or four 216 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: wide receivers on the field and Casey Hampton standing on 217 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: the sideline for all the ten snaps in the game. 218 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: There you go. Because I don't know that Jordan Davis 219 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: is better against the run in the NFL than Life 220 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: and Adventure And it's waiting. Hi. This is Merril Hodge 221 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,559 Speaker 1: at SMT Bank. They know life's for the living. 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Casey Hampton, I bet he's not, if 232 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: you are right. Okay, So if Casey Hampton can't play 233 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: on third down in the NFL, um and this guy 234 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: was a two he was a two dam player in 235 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: college too, wasn't he. Yeah? Yeah, but that's misleading, though, Labs. 236 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 1: I mean, because he had a first round guy next 237 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: to him, and supposedly there's another Georgia defensive tackle, the 238 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 1: top ten guy next year better than both of them, 239 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: so he probably plays more snaps. Okay, But when you're 240 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 1: playing here, when you're Kirby Smart and you're tired of 241 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: walking across the field and shaking Nick Saban's hands saying congratulations, 242 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: you know, and winning this championship, if Jordan Davis uh 243 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: was was here to play them, I don't care who 244 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: next year is and who's next to him and any 245 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: of that stuff, because um, that's uh you know. And 246 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: again I'm not disparaging Jordan Davis. I'm just saying that 247 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 1: all of this he could have would have uh if 248 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: for that senive for that, I'm not I'm sorry, I'm 249 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,560 Speaker 1: not buying it. If he was, if he had the 250 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: ability to generate consistent pressure on the quarterback, his butt 251 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: would have never been standing next to Kirby Smart when 252 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: the other team had the ball. I will say there's 253 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: a couple of instances, usually against Bama, where Jordan Davis 254 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: was on the field, Saban goes hurry up, and eight 255 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: or nine plays in he's offing and puffing, you know. 256 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a big body that wears out. Okay, 257 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: but NFL teams will do that too, exactly. I mean, 258 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: I'm back at your point a little bit on that one. 259 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 1: You know, right, what about there a couple of holes 260 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: on the roster right now, Bob Well, I'm talking glaring 261 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 1: like starting caliber holes, strong safety, wide receiver. They're the 262 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: two that stand out to me. Yeah yeah, I mean, um, then, 263 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: and the Steelers have two wide receivers, and I'm not 264 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: really a hundred percent sold on either one of them, 265 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: so I will agree with that. So do you take 266 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: a defensive tackle over those two positions? Given the need? 267 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: Great am up, great amout, And a lot of it's 268 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: based on what to it they think can bring the 269 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: table too. I mean we don't have we're not privy 270 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: to that in information. Yeah and we and they may 271 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: not even know ercent. I have to believe that if 272 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: they thought that stefan to It was not coming back, 273 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: they would have addressed that position in free agency. Um 274 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: still could given the way that they attack some of 275 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: the other stuff. But something you know, Here's here's the 276 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: thing Dale. If you have starting caliber, uh stefawnt to 277 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: it like defensive lineman, and free agency, you ain't getting 278 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: that for no two years average is seven million, and 279 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: you're not. But if you're signing and free. But if 280 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 1: you thought that he wasn't coming back, you could certainly 281 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: you could get somebody better than Chris Wormley. Let's put 282 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: it that way again. I'm not disagreeing, but it's you know, 283 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: free agency. To quote Mike tom went on this and 284 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: I love it. They the way he explains it, it's 285 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: free for them and free for us. You can't get 286 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: anyone who you know. You gotta volunteers, not hostages. I 287 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 1: hear nothing that makes him come to you except de Naro. 288 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: And if you give them what they want, then you're 289 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: not we have room to sign um, you know a 290 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: lot of other guys. But they also haven't done anything 291 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:10,360 Speaker 1: with Stefon too. It's contract, they haven't. They haven't released him, 292 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: he hasn't retired, they haven't. They haven't made any move there. 293 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: And they could save I think it's like four million 294 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: dollars and change by doing that, which would help you 295 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: get that guy. I was just gonna say that might 296 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 1: buy you Chris Wormley. Well, that's what I'm saying. But 297 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: but with the other extra available cap space you have 298 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 1: now you could get into into that market. And as 299 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 1: as we go deeper into this free agent stuff, guys 300 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:38,159 Speaker 1: are gonna get antsy. It's a buyer's market going forward. 301 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: And it's still Yah, it's definitely a buyer's market. There's 302 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: I just don't think they know. And even if you 303 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: think you know with tow it, after what happens happened 304 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: last year, could you be confident in what you think 305 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: you know? I don't know. I mean, um, my perception 306 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: is it's very much up in the air. And you 307 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: know what, It's a two pronged thing. Yeah. Um, his 308 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: mental willingness, readiness to get back and do the things 309 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: he has to do, and then what's it like, what's 310 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: his body like after missing the whole season, not only 311 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: all of the games, but pretty much all of the 312 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: meaningful practices. Uh and you know, has he deteriorated physically 313 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: in any way? Again, I don't know the answer to 314 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: any of these things. That's why I just dispute they 315 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: any um assertion or notion that the Steelers know or 316 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 1: are confident coming back, because I've asked everybody in the organization. 317 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: I've made it a point every time we've spoken to 318 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 1: Kevin Colbert or Mike Tomlin or Art Rooney, what's what's 319 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: going on with stuff? Onto it? And every time they've said, 320 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: we're very we're optimistic where we're excited about him, but 321 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: you know, potentially coming back. I I just look at 322 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 1: his like, I feel like they have a reasonable idea 323 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: of expectation here that he's gonna come. They may have 324 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: a reasonable hope because no, seriously, because if unless as 325 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 1: you mentioned, they either cut to it or tired, what 326 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: are you how are you gonna answer that question? Oh? Man, 327 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: he's he was so fat last year, you know, um, 328 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 1: or he's done or I don't think he's he's um 329 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: you know, mentally tough enough for I don't know, you know, 330 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: I mean, you really can't say a whole lot beyond 331 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: what they're saying at this point. Um, and I'm just 332 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: I just don't believe that they can be confident or 333 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: should be confident. Let me put it that way. The 334 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: the other thing is, even if to it is coming 335 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: off a Pro Bowl season and looks the best he 336 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: ever has to it, Cam and Louis lou Rol, I 337 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,080 Speaker 1: mean right, I mean that you're kind of a how 338 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: to snaps from old dudes, even if everything is rosie 339 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: as can be with two and you know, um, I 340 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: think Chris Wormley is a and he played well right 341 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: this comes across is a derogatory turn, but he's a 342 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:18,159 Speaker 1: quality journeyman. If he's your four, I'm fine. And I 343 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 1: think louder Milk hast him upside. You know, you promise. 344 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: But I mean, if if you're rooting for you know, 345 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: Carlos Davis, or thinking you're gonna have to depend on 346 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: one of the Davis twins or you know whatever, Yeah, yeah, 347 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: that ain't kinting. Yeah, no, I agree, completely ahead. No, 348 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: he broke up there for a second, but uh yeah, 349 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 1: I just I think the whole thing is fascinating. Um 350 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,399 Speaker 1: from that respect, and at some point, just to finish 351 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: up the talk here onto it, they've got to have 352 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: a date where they have to say, hey, Stefan, we 353 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: gotta know, you gotta it has to be a line 354 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: of delineation or whether that be the start of O 355 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 1: T S, whether that be a week before the draft, 356 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: whether that be you know, whenever, whenever it may be there, 357 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: there has to be some kind of date that they 358 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: have to have talked about with him. We got to 359 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: know by this time so we can move forward with you. 360 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 1: But again, even if he says I'm in a hundred percent, 361 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: I'm still gonna see him right, I'll just doing O 362 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: T S. And I'm not saying whether he's overweight or not. 363 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: But I mean, I mean, um, you know he needs 364 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: to show. He would need to show me anyway, um, 365 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: something in pads or something, you know, something, because and 366 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 1: at that point, if you guess wrong on him and 367 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: he's either you know, unwilling or incapable of being the 368 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: steffon to it that he was, you're screwed. I mean, 369 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: you got there's no avenue at that point to helping 370 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 1: the top of your depth chart, and at a position 371 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: where not only is it important for your football team, 372 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: but you've got a pretty big investment in those two 373 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: inside linebackers too. And if you want Devon Bush to 374 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: be Devin Bush, better put some people in front of him, because, uh, 375 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: getting when they moved up the tenth to pick him. 376 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,439 Speaker 1: He is not Vince Williams to beat Mince Williams. And 377 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:37,399 Speaker 1: so being upset that um guards coming getting free releases 378 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: to the second level to your linebackers, one of whom 379 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: is Devin Bush and pancacking him. I mean, that's like 380 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: being upset that you know, I'm I'm fat and slow 381 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: knowing that uh you know again, you know I don't 382 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: the whole Devon A lot of the Devon Bush and 383 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: of him last year to me was just unfair because 384 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: you're asking him to be something that he clearly is not, 385 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: never was, and it wasn't when you drafted him. You 386 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: knew he wasn't when you picked right. No, I agree, Uh, 387 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: that's gonna do it for the segment. Though we appreciate 388 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: you stopping bye, Bob, always a pleasure. Hopefully we can 389 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 1: get you on a little more regularly here so we 390 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: can uh get a good chuckle out of it and 391 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 1: learn some things, because I'll fulfill the chuckle part. He 392 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: is Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lally. Our guests has 393 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: been Bob Labiola. We're gonna take a break. When we 394 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: come back. It's time for us to do our mock draft. Matt. 395 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: Maybe we won't get a quarterback in this next draft. 396 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: That's what's the chat about, Labs next time, about the 397 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: whole draft, a quarterback or not. A conversation. Yeah, we'll 398 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: do that when we return. Yeah, I'm torn as well. 399 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 1: We'll do that when we come back. You're listening to 400 00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: the drive here Dealers Nation Radio Life and Adventure and 401 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: it's waiting. Hi. This is Merril Hodge at S ANDT Bank, 402 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: they know lives for the living. 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