1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:01,160 Speaker 1: Hello, call it Crude. 2 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 2: Camila and I are devastated by the fires and are 3 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 2: heart broken by the tragedy and the loss that Southern 4 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 2: California is currently experiencing. 5 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 3: This episode was recorded before the fires here in Los Angeles, 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 3: and we will be dedicating a future episode to talk 7 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 3: all about it. 8 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: Call It What It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camil Luddington, 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 2: an iHeartRadio podcast. 10 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: Well, Hello, hello, hello. 11 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: And welcome to another episode of Call It What It Is. 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: You might have noticed that I said hello, Hello, hello, 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: and welcome to another episode of Call It What It Is, 14 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 2: because today I am missing one half of my heart, 15 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: the peanut butter to my jelly, the lemon to my lime. 16 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: The what's the word? 17 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 2: Inimitable Camilla Lettington. She would love that I said that, 18 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: and then she'd probably toss me a fake insult. But anyways, 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:14,399 Speaker 2: today it is just me, or rather you get all 20 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: of me on a very special episode with the one 21 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: and only Brookshields. 22 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: Brook Shields is. 23 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't know that you could relegate one job 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: title to Brookshields. 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: She's got lots. 26 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: I feel like I first came to know her, or 27 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: like the first imprinted image is her in those sweet 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 2: ass tight Calan kline jeans on some giant billboard somewhere, 29 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: with her hair blowing in the wind, and that gorgeous 30 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 2: face and those shiny eyes and that bold brow and 31 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: just all of it was extra extra fantastic. That's the 32 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: feeling I feel like I first saw her, and then 33 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 2: I remember being new to the business and looking up 34 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: to her and seeing her around town, and she was 35 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 2: always so kind and lovely. And then I've continued to 36 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: run into her and have marveled and watched her weave 37 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: her way through many, many different jobs. She most recently 38 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 2: can be seen on and around town by the way, 39 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 2: in a bikini, flanked by her two gorgeous daughters who 40 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: are now in college, and after she has started an 41 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 2: inspirational community for women called Beginning is Now that is 42 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 2: transitioning into commence and basically just on the forefront of 43 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 2: all the things that I find myself wanting to talk 44 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 2: about as well. So please please welcome Brookshields. Well, first 45 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 2: of all, I'm so bummed because my partner in crime, Camilla, 46 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 2: got like a like like she's a real doctor or something, 47 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: got called into work at Gray's Anatomy so she's not 48 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: here with us today. And then I said, well, I 49 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 2: gotta say since I since I know Brooke, it's really 50 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: her loss, and there's just. 51 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: More of you for me to have. 52 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 3: We can handle this. We can totally handle it. 53 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:09,679 Speaker 1: We can talk and talk. 54 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,679 Speaker 2: Well, I was going to start with no matter who 55 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 2: was on I have a very for some reason, there's 56 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 2: like these memories of certain people that just get crystallized 57 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: and cemented in my brain. And I have this memory 58 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 2: of I don't know, I mean, being sort of feeling 59 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: still new and certainly not established on any level, and 60 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: going to one of those parties in Beverly Hills at 61 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: the new protest store, where you know, we'd all dressed 62 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 2: up and we'd been sent clothes, and while it seems 63 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 2: like it's glamorous, there's something super insecure about it. You're like, 64 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: am I wearing the right thing? Does this even look good? 65 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: Who? Am I? 66 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: Existential crises happen on the way there, all of it. 67 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 2: But I remember getting there and there's so many people there, 68 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 2: and it was a really fabulous party, and I came 69 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: around a corner and I saw you, and you were 70 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 2: definitely in the middle of doing something important, right like 71 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: you were you were there was photos being taken or whatever, 72 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 2: but you turned around and when your eyes met mine, 73 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 2: you just smiled and it was just like the warmest 74 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 2: ray of light and it was like an eyeball hug. 75 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 2: It was like, and I don't know, I don't know 76 00:04:13,320 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 2: how to like, I'm clearly making a mountain out of this, 77 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 2: but for whatever reason, that eyeball hug meant some sort 78 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: of confirmation of belonging for me at this party. 79 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: All well, I think, you know, I do remember that, 80 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 3: and it's so funny you say, I was in the 81 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 3: middle of doing something important, like getting my picture taken, 82 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 3: which is I know, I know, but you know it's 83 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 3: very important. And I remember thinking, oh, I shouldn't have 84 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 3: picked this dress. This is a stupid dress to pick. 85 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,359 Speaker 3: This is so not like chic. It's just too like 86 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 3: colorful and patterny. But that was the theme because they 87 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: projected all the patterns on the wall. It was like 88 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: this larger than life thing. And you know, I also 89 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 3: am so honestly a fan of people that I'm a 90 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 3: fan of that I watch like I'm a person who 91 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 3: if you come into my living room in any capacity, 92 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 3: I too feel like I know you, and I am like, 93 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 3: I'm a fan and I know you, and I take 94 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 3: it all very personally and like people do. And I remember, 95 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: you know, just going like, oh, oh good, she's here, 96 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 3: like okay, this is really cool and I don't really 97 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: really know her, but but okay, she looked beautiful and 98 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: I'm here, and why not just like have fun with it? 99 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: Like it just I think it just normalized it all 100 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 3: in a moment because we did make eye contact. And 101 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 3: normally when you go into those places, people are like this, yeah, yeah, 102 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 3: and they're out somebody else and nobody's looking like if 103 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 3: they shake your hand, they're like looking at who's more 104 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 3: famous over there? And yeah, you know, and it's. 105 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, like a l it is. 106 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 2: But you know what, you bring up something that I 107 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 2: think is actually, I just think you're in such a 108 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: unique position of I'm I'm gonna even I'm going to 109 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 2: use the W word. I feel like you're going to 110 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 2: have some wisdom on this, which is we talk a 111 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: lot because we have write in and call in, and 112 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: we sort of were like, you know, we think we're 113 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: not at all, so we think we can give everyone, 114 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 2: you know, we think we at least have some kind 115 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 2: of answer, but so often what people are reporting and 116 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: feeling is self doubt, and so you brought up like, ah, 117 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 2: the first thing that came to mind, like top of mine, 118 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: was like, my dress is stupid, right, Like I'm not 119 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 2: wearing the right thing. And it's funny because we just 120 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: heard Demi Moore talk about this in her acceptance speech 121 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 2: the other night in the Golden Gumbs, where it's like 122 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 2: there's always going to be somebody, and sometimes it's you 123 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 2: that makes you feel not good enough or like the 124 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 2: dress you picked. 125 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 3: Was rodd or not really deserving of being there or 126 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 3: And I think that's the plight of an actress or 127 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 3: a creative. You know, I've just recently read this beautiful 128 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 3: book on Margaret Wise Brown, who wrote run Away Bunny 129 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: and Good Night Moon. Yeah, and you know, and she 130 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: was made to feel less than because she wasn't an 131 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 3: adult writer. And she you know, she's one of the 132 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 3: most prolific children's book writers and one of the most 133 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 3: poetic sort of extraordinary minds. And you watch her Insecurity 134 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 3: blossom Insecurity's blossom at certain points and you think, like, wow, 135 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 3: this has been happening since the dawn of time, Like 136 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: is it a writer passage. What if we don't get 137 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: through it? What if we choose to stay in that 138 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: place of anxiety and insecurity and self doubt? And like 139 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,680 Speaker 3: is that fair for us? And like you kind of 140 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: have to at least these conversations are now starting to 141 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: be had a little bit differently. 142 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, when those conversations are happening, do you find in 143 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: those moments of self doubt do you have are you 144 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: figuring out what your prescription is? 145 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: Like? 146 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: Is it? 147 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: Is it talking to yourself? Is it phoning a friend? 148 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 3: Is it? Sometimes it's and I said this today to 149 00:07:53,960 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: my older daughter. Sometimes it's as simple as saying nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, cancel, cancel, nope, nope, nope, nope, 150 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: nope no and shift and go like puppies kiddies from 151 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 3: my laundry, and you distract and then you kind of 152 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: like shift, and then I start usually thinking of like, Okay, 153 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 3: you're fifty nine years old, are yes still going to 154 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 3: do this shift to yourself? Are yes still going to 155 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: let it take your time? Or are you going to 156 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 3: just say okay, that's a part of what happens to me. 157 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 3: But can I make it fuel me to ask more 158 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 3: questions about what I want my future. You know, I 159 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: want this job. Howboud I ask for that job? Or 160 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 3: how about I put myself out there? Or how a 161 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 3: would I say? You know what, I'm going to say 162 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: yes to that because it's something that is out of 163 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 3: my comfort zone. I'm going to learn and then you 164 00:08:53,080 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 3: you sort of make it a little bit more proactive. 165 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: And in that period of time when you realize the 166 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 3: world hasn't imploded because you're wearing the wrong dress and 167 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 3: that nobody really cares what dress you aren't wearing because 168 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 3: they're worried about their own outfit, you start to just 169 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 3: go like, oh, oh, I want to release myself from 170 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: this because nothing is coming out of it that is productive. Yeah, 171 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 3: and sometimes there is a productivity in feeling insecure because 172 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 3: it causes me at times to take on things that 173 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: I'm afraid of, you know, So you have to kind 174 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 3: of be willing to be honest about what it is. Okay, 175 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 3: golden gloves aren't perfect example, right, you know the way 176 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 3: she was talking about her trajectory, her history, and how 177 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 3: riddled with that that she was insecure. Right, So I 178 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 3: can look at somebody like that, and I can look 179 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: at them as a contemporary and say, yeah, I get it. 180 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 3: I get it, and you know I do want that validation. 181 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 3: But I'm not but but my not but forgetting it 182 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: tonight to the last night whatever doesn't take it away 183 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 3: from me. Like when you're young, you sort of think 184 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 3: there's a limited allotment of finance. 185 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that people are allowed. 186 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: And yes there's certain roles and we all don't get 187 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 3: them because some adult gets them. Whatever. 188 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 2: That's the nature so many times, Brooks, so many times. 189 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 3: Majority the majority of my life. 190 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: I know, talk about daughter talk. 191 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: I say it all the time, especially when those daughters 192 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 2: paint me with like you're perfect. I'm like, do you 193 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 2: know how many do you know the percentage of jobs 194 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 2: I've actually gotten? Two percentage of jobs I have auditioned. 195 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 3: For, I've gotten two. 196 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 2: I gets like point two percent I've gotten too. I mean, 197 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 2: I might as well have never got a job in 198 00:10:50,920 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 2: my life. I've never worked. You made me think of 199 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 2: you made me think well. I mean, I love Taylor Swift. 200 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: I don't know where you land on, Taylor. 201 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 3: But oh I had the best time in my life 202 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 3: there at the dancing with her mother. 203 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,839 Speaker 2: It was serial Yeah mom, I mean she's the best. 204 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: She's the best. She was so kind to my daughter. 205 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 2: She gave her the bracelet off her wrist. 206 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 3: She gave one to my daughters too. I was like, oh, 207 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 3: I mean, she's taken that friendship bracelet thing. 208 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: And Poppy looked at me and was like, is this 209 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: for real? 210 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 1: And like should I take it? 211 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: And I was like, yes, you should, and you should 212 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 2: say thank you, ma'am, thank you. 213 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 3: You should give her one of yours. 214 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh no, she was. She was the initial offerer. 215 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 2: But I remember watching the documentary and then again, who 216 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 2: knows why these things stick in her head, but I 217 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: remember when she was talking about her relationship with food 218 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 2: and when she had a thorny one and when she 219 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: was not that was not sustainable and that was not 220 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 2: literally nutritive. And I remember her saying, always fact check me, 221 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: because sometimes I remember things differently than they are. But 222 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: I remember her saying that her mantra in those moments 223 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:11,200 Speaker 2: of self doubt about that particular issue was we're not 224 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 2: going to do that. 225 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: We're not going to do that. 226 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 2: We're not going to do that anymore. We're just not 227 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 2: going to do that anymore. And I remember, I mean, 228 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 2: it was definitely for me reserved. I think I had 229 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 2: more of it younger, but holy me, I still have. 230 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 2: I still have a storage room for I remember, especially 231 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,959 Speaker 2: in the moments of you know, kind of having to 232 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: show up to something, being on the you know, going 233 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 2: into an audition or something, and catching a reflection of 234 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 2: myself in the in the window, you know, as I 235 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 2: walked away from my car, and I remember being the 236 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 2: thoughts that went through my mind were so unkind to 237 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 2: that reflection, and I remember being like, what is going on? 238 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 2: Why am I being so unkind to myself? And it's 239 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 2: only making the self doubt worse. It's not setting me 240 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: up for success an X, Y and Z and all that. 241 00:12:53,880 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 2: And then I remember thinking different way in if anyone 242 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 2: spoke to if I spoke to anyone the way that 243 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 2: I speak to myself, right, I would have I would 244 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: have zero friends, and I have a lot of friends. 245 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,560 Speaker 2: And I'm so grateful for my friends and I feel 246 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,839 Speaker 2: so supportive. So what if I treated myself like I 247 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: was my friend? 248 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 249 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,839 Speaker 2: And it really did like that for me. The self 250 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 2: doubt exactly what you said, like the conversations with yourself 251 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: interrupting the cycle saying nope, like, nope, not on my watch, 252 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,319 Speaker 2: Like you're not going to fucking say that to her, 253 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: not on my watch. 254 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: You know. And what's interesting is the two things that 255 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: you've just said, you've kind of spoken in third person. 256 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 3: And I think that that's a really interesting psychology that 257 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 3: makes it easier for us to take said mantra. Because 258 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: if if if we go back to our normal of 259 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 3: our normal tapes and we say I, and it's like, well, 260 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 3: I look fat, I look stupid, I look old, I'm 261 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 3: too tall, i'm too short, I'm too lily, that it 262 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: immediately goes right back in. But if we say no, 263 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: we're not going to do that. We are a team here, 264 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: and this is collected, like and when you say I'm 265 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 3: going to speak to myself, you're creating just enough distance 266 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: so that our psyche can make it less self induced. 267 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: If you think about the way the synapses work and 268 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: the way that the brain works, like that stuff is 269 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: so interesting to me because that is what I think 270 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 3: is a really healthy way of doing it. I mean, 271 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: I had something one time similar. It was I don't 272 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: look in the mirror, right Like I refuse to look 273 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: in the mirror for years and years and years now 274 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 3: I do, but for years I didn't. I wouldn't. I 275 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 3: wouldn't look in the mirror. I wouldn't like and in 276 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: dance class, I would just fall flat on my cocksit 277 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 3: and I would be in such pain. And then I 278 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 3: was doing this movie where I was I had to 279 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 3: be like walk in looking like ba vum and kind 280 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 3: of sexy and sort of like great, but I had 281 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: to deliver some tippid line of something. I don't know 282 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 3: what it was. And I was so out of like 283 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 3: my own periphery that I didn't I was so unaware 284 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 3: of where I was coming from that repeatedly I kept 285 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 3: running into the wall and it was funny because it 286 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 3: was like, oh, look how clumsy she is. She should 287 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 3: probably be a comedian, Like oh look how Yeah, you 288 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: think she's a supermodel, but she's really a you know, klutz. 289 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 3: And that was just you know, that was where the 290 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: crew went and everybody because I think they were embarrassed 291 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 3: for me. But I remember thinking like, oh, that's so 292 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 3: interesting because you weren't willing to take in who you 293 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: were enough to understand your peripheral, Like I physically walked 294 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: into the wall. Five takes in a row, and then 295 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 3: I started thinking, oh my god, I've got a neurological problem, 296 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 3: like this is crazy. And then I took a dance 297 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 3: class and my teacher was like, if you don't spot 298 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: and look at yourself, you're never going to be able 299 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 3: to turn. You will never be able to make a 300 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 3: turn on stage if you don't have a focal point. 301 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: And while we're in class, the focal point is the 302 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 3: mirror and if you can't handle what you see in 303 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: the mirror, then you shouldn't be dancing at all. And 304 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 3: it was like really tough. It was like harsh, and 305 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 3: I was like, I don't want to. He goes, nobody cares. 306 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 3: They're looking at their own faces in the mirror. If 307 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 3: you don't do it, you're on your own and don't 308 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 3: I don't know, Like he was so frustrated with me, 309 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 3: but it was like love and it was It reminded 310 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 3: me of that Dove ad where the women described themselves 311 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 3: to an artist who's behind a black curtain and then 312 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 3: describes a woman that they were part of it. And 313 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 3: in every case, the way they described themselves was witchy 314 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 3: and hard and angry and mean, and the way the 315 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 3: other person described them was like regal and strong jaw 316 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 3: and ye yeah, fierce, and you just kind of go like, Okay, 317 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 3: we've been doing this to ourselves for quite some time. 318 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 3: Are we going to stop that behavior? 319 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're the only one that can do. You 320 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: remember a time where that was a daily, daily like 321 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 2: the hardest for you, or like the lesson that you 322 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: needed to learn to get past it to move on 323 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: to the next thing. 324 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I think there was a when I was 325 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 3: on Broadway. I was so one of the times I 326 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 3: was on Broadway, I was so it was so precious 327 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 3: to me doing a Wonderful Town, which was a musical 328 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,640 Speaker 3: comedy where I had to sing, dance and be comedic 329 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 3: and all of this at the same time. And I 330 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 3: remember thinking, like, you were going to have to use 331 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 3: these six months, eight shows a week to stop sabotaging 332 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: yourself and stop and like and stop doing those ritualistic 333 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:30,400 Speaker 3: OCD things that you do because you feel like if 334 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 3: you don't put your miscra on in the same period 335 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 3: of time that you count to put your lip on, 336 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 3: like whatever the thing was, I had frenzied myself into control. 337 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 3: I'm going to. 338 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: Step on control, needing control. 339 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 3: And so I went in one day and I started 340 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 3: absolutely doing everything out of order, and I waited till 341 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 3: the last minute to get to the theater, and I 342 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 3: did all these things that would have been like made 343 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 3: me not like really struggle, and I was fine. I 344 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 3: was fine on mistakes. The world didn't fall apart. Yeah, 345 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 3: And I thought, think of all the time you waste 346 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 3: trying to control yourself, when if you just were awake 347 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: enough to stay in the moment, you'd probably be okay. 348 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's but you need to prove it to yourself. 349 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 3: I needed to go through the discomfort of like, yeah, 350 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,159 Speaker 3: you know, being chicken lit alone, the world's guy's going 351 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 3: to fall apart. 352 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. 353 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 2: And it's funny because you know you were talking about 354 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: talking to your daughter, and you know, I've got three 355 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: daughters and a son, and and I think you so 356 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 2: badly want to just like hook up like a connector 357 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,640 Speaker 2: where you can like download all of this stuff we're 358 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: talking about so you can like spare them these moments 359 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 2: that they go through. 360 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 1: And then you have this moment of. 361 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 2: Realization where it's like, oh, just like you said, like 362 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: I wouldn't count insecuritys, like I wouldn't put in. 363 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 3: My positive. 364 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 2: But if you can, if you can contextualize it, if 365 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 2: you can synthesize it in your body and then have 366 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: it come out as humility, right instead of insecurity. Maybe 367 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 2: it's just like me understanding that, you know, not it's 368 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,199 Speaker 2: the opposite of grandiose, like I'm not all that in 369 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 2: a bag of chips, but I'm pretty proud of myself. 370 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: I also think humility can be a dangerous word if 371 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 3: not mind appropriately, because humility can in some instances. And 372 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: I've learned this because of self deprecation. Right, I've taken 373 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 3: self deprecation to like a whole new level of like 374 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:39,200 Speaker 3: it's who I am. And when you do that too 375 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 3: much to yourself, over the course of years, you start 376 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 3: seeing yourself as less than right if you're not careful. Right, Yeah, yeah, 377 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 3: I I do think that there's a uh. I like 378 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 3: the word humility better than I like the word humble. 379 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: But I do feel like our humility needs to be 380 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 3: extended to ourselves, not necessarily to the outside, because you know, 381 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,240 Speaker 3: I took it to such a I would I would 382 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 3: like back out of rooms or come in and say 383 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, or instead of just excuse me, everything was 384 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, and I was like apologizing for 385 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 3: living and then you start feeling like, oh god, I 386 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 3: don't know why I feel so bad about myself. Yeah, 387 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 3: so's so I try to say to my girls, you know, 388 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 3: respect is a huge, huge thing to integrate into your lives. 389 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 3: And that is respect for yourself without arrogance, because I 390 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: used to I used to equate that with arrogance and 391 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 3: respect for others, others, time, others, you know, feelings at 392 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 3: that moment. Just try to be aware of them, don't 393 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 3: undermine yourself so much to uphold them. But again, you know, 394 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 3: really try to listen, listen to Okay, so you're nervous 395 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 3: about this, right, My daughter went into like a really 396 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:07,239 Speaker 3: kind of interesting job where she had to be in 397 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: service and I said, you know, make yourself indispensable and 398 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,120 Speaker 3: and she's like, well, that's I can't think of myself 399 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 3: that way. And I said, no, no, don't walk in 400 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 3: thinking you're better than everybody. Walk in and say how 401 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 3: can I help you this job? What can I do 402 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: in this position to make your said job more you know, 403 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 3: run smoothly? And I said, in over time, you will 404 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 3: start feeling needed for the right reasons, and then your 405 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 3: own self worth will kind of find its spot and 406 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 3: you're never going to be arrogant. It's not in your DNA, 407 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 3: you know what. 408 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,399 Speaker 2: I think that that's also it's sometimes I feel really 409 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: small in the world, and I feel like the problems 410 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:57,440 Speaker 2: are all too big, and I do tend to feel 411 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 2: comforted by getting really small in like what can I affect? 412 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: You know, like I really I personally, there's not a 413 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 2: lot I can do about things that are happening across 414 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: the world or or things that are just bigger balls 415 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 2: to unwind. But I can smile at a stranger. I 416 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 2: can make someone feel valued and and and special, and 417 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 2: that is really important to do when you can, when 418 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 2: you have the power to do it, it's really important 419 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 2: to do well. 420 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: It's Taylor's mom giving our daughters stuff in the gold bracelet. 421 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 3: Like it's if they're gestures. Yeah, you know, it's like 422 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 3: if I'm walking on the street, and you know, I 423 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 3: mean usually it goes like this, someone will say, oh, 424 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 3: you're still beautiful. 425 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those other than you're actually beautiful. 426 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I've gotten or you're you're actually pretty in person. 427 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 3: I got one or it was favorite anyway. They're just 428 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: it's these crazy things. But when someone when anybody says 429 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 3: anything complimentary, I immediately turn it back around and I 430 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:16,880 Speaker 3: say you are so beautiful. And it never fails. The 431 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:22,200 Speaker 3: person will go thank you, thank you, Brooke, and I'll 432 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,120 Speaker 3: be like, have the right day, and I walk on. 433 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,679 Speaker 3: And it's just it's that it a little goes a 434 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 3: long way. And I think that there are symbols of that, 435 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 3: whether it's Taylor Swift and her front of bracelets or 436 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 3: the messaging in her songs, or how she treats what 437 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,120 Speaker 3: looks like she treats every fan. Yeah. 438 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 2: No, well she's role modeling goodness and that that wasn't. 439 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 3: That's so necessary. 440 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: It didn't used to be so cool to be kind, 441 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 2: And now it does feel like there's a culture and 442 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: a and a and a movement toward kindness, not in 443 00:24:54,680 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: all circles, but in quite a few. Okay, I have 444 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: a question because I was also thinking about you. Oh, 445 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 2: I've been thinking about you for a couple of days 446 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 2: because I knew I was guess you, and I was 447 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 2: thinking just looking back, looking back and looking forward. You 448 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 2: really have touched in so many different aspects of entertainment. 449 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 2: Like you have done so many things, and I find 450 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: you in conversation and whenever I run into you, I'm 451 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,239 Speaker 2: always so happy because I find you and everything you're 452 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 2: saying about yourself, I absolutely I know it's true. But 453 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 2: there's this there's this willingness that I see in you 454 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: that's like, Okay, I mean, you know, I know you 455 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 2: wouldn't say this, but you know you're You're the Calvin 456 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: Klein gorgeous, gorgeous gorgeousness, and the winds are blowing and 457 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,840 Speaker 2: the hair is blowing and all the things, and you're 458 00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: so beautiful. And there's this there's this aspect of entertainment, 459 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 2: right because we're creating these big images and then it's like, oh, hey, 460 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: so what about being you know, what about being on 461 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 2: a TV show? 462 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: There's Brooke, she's willing. Yes, you're at a TV show. 463 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: You're making people. 464 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 2: Laugh, you're singing and dancing on stage. Yes, there you are. 465 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 2: And I think that that's not a very common thing 466 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: to be so willing, and I love it. I think 467 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 2: it's I'm using it as a compliment, by the way, 468 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 2: because I find that, you know, one of the biggest 469 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: disruptors to life is people who are unwilling, like unwilling 470 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 2: to just go. You know, there're the people whenever you 471 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,159 Speaker 2: ask them, they're like no, You're like, oh, I just 472 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:37,199 Speaker 2: want you to jump in, But do you have do 473 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 2: you know where your willingness came from? 474 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: You? 475 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: Did you were you? 476 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 3: Just? 477 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: Were you born? 478 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:41,439 Speaker 3: Like that? 479 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: Did you see it go the other way? And you're like, 480 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: uh ah, I'm going to be I'm going to jump in. 481 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: Like where did that adventure and where did that willingness 482 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 2: come from? 483 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 3: Well, thank you for that. That is a very positive 484 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,480 Speaker 3: view of I fit well, how I've chosen to live 485 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:00,040 Speaker 3: my life. But I think it's because I don't I 486 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 3: don't like limitations that are put on me by other 487 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 3: people who have no idea what my capacity is. I 488 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 3: don't even understand maybe my capability or my talent or 489 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: my capacity or whatever it is. And so when you 490 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 3: get denied access, which we've talked about before, but when 491 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 3: when you are not picked, overlooked, not chosen whatever, this 492 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 3: crazy thing that we as actresses are subjected to, and 493 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 3: you've been on some pedestal that you really didn't mean, 494 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 3: not asked to be on it, and then you're knocked 495 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 3: off it and they just are thriving on that watching 496 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 3: you kind of flail in their opinion, you know, the 497 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 3: public opinion or press or whatever. You start to say like, 498 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 3: am I going to let myself be limited constantly by 499 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 3: something that I have no control over? Or I'm just 500 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 3: going to keep saying yes, especially if I'm afraid. And 501 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 3: you know, it's not like, oh, by choice, I chose 502 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 3: not to be in films anymore, and I was going 503 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 3: to go be on television or being on Broadway. Those 504 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 3: were things that were the only ones available to me. 505 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 2: But imagine if you hadn't been willing. 506 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 3: You know, part of it is like, oh, I got 507 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 3: so happy, I got in divited to that party, and 508 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 3: it just I felt like, I think every opportunity that 509 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 3: I've gotten has been a gift because they don't come often, 510 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 3: you know, they don't come all the time or often, 511 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 3: and I think. 512 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: That sometimes you have to make them. I mean, look 513 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: at them. Listen, I'm looking at your whole life and 514 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 2: on pieces of paper and notes and all the things 515 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 2: that i've you know, that I've just seen you do. 516 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: And there's a lot, you know, I mean, there's a 517 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: lot of redirection, and there's a lot of you know, passion, and. 518 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 3: You know what, people say it's reinvention, and I always say, like, 519 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 3: you know what, I wasn't broken enough to need to 520 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 3: be reinvented. I just needed to keep being revealed and 521 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 3: like I'll raise my hand and I'll be like, oh, 522 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,920 Speaker 3: could I want to try that? Yeah, just because I've 523 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 3: I've felt the success like and I felt it in 524 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 3: college more than anything. You know, I tried out for 525 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 3: a dance company and I did university. 526 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 2: So it's always good to say because it's just really impressive. 527 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 3: Well, but like I didn't get into this dance company 528 00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,040 Speaker 3: and I didn't get into this singing group, and I 529 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 3: just remember feeling like such a failure and thinking like 530 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 3: how can I be an actress and not know how 531 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 3: to do this? Like what is wrong with me? Maybe 532 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 3: I am just a celebrity and I am just this. 533 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm sort of smart, but like and so I thought, okay, 534 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 3: well what are you going to do about it? And 535 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 3: I spent that summer taking dance lessons, taking singing lessons, 536 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 3: And I went back and I got into the dance 537 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 3: company and I got into the musical theater group, and 538 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 3: I had a whole life that wasn't afforded to me 539 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 3: before because I hadn't worked hard enough for it. Maybe 540 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 3: I don't know. 541 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you were also you were willing to. 542 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 2: You were willing to, you were willing to take the 543 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 2: know and like direct yourselves into having earned it. 544 00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 1: It sounds like I was willing to fail. 545 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, you have to. You have to 546 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: be real willing to fail in life. That's the thing 547 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 2: I think some people don't get when they when they 548 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: when they talk about the self doubt. I think it's 549 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 2: it's really important what you just said. If you doubt 550 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: yourself all the time, Okay, fine, that's being human. But 551 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 2: I find that a lot of people who get stuck 552 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: in that decide to just stop trying, to like stop doing, 553 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 2: to stop moving forward. And I think it's like that's 554 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: where you. 555 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: I love all this. 556 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 2: I love this is My favorite thing about Instagram is 557 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,080 Speaker 2: all the sayings. I take screenshots of them all and 558 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 2: I put them in my little pocket and I go, like, 559 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like you know, if you 560 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,480 Speaker 2: if you don't ask the answers, usually I always know, 561 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 2: or if you don't ask the answers always going to 562 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 2: be no. 563 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: Right, It's like, yes, you have to keep going. 564 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 2: You have to, you have to keep going forward, and 565 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:12,959 Speaker 2: then you'll sort of earn the confidence because you'll know 566 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: that you can do it. 567 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 3: And also you say, I say that to my girls, 568 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 3: I'm like, I can guarantee you won't get into that 569 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 3: college if you don't apply. Yeah, Like I can guarantee it. 570 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it's one of the shots you don't take. 571 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm telling you. I've got a lot of them. I've 572 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: got a lot of them. I'll get on my phone. 573 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: I got a whole file. 574 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,640 Speaker 3: I have those dads that have it at the bottom, 575 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 3: you know. And it's like it's always like somebody really 576 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 3: cool has said it in like the early nineteen hundreds 577 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,760 Speaker 3: and you're just like, yes, what would you do if 578 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 3: you knew you could not fail? 579 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 2: And you're like, yeah, yeah, all of them, all of them, 580 00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,880 Speaker 2: all of them. Okay, So if you if you, I 581 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: mean you, you didn't know you couldn't fail. But in 582 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 2: this now, in the beginning is now phase, what is 583 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: the thing that is top of mind for you right now? 584 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 2: Like what's the thing I always find that there's like 585 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 2: something that comes up and it's like the thing you 586 00:31:58,520 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 2: can't stop talking. 587 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 3: About is that when you are a part of something 588 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:10,520 Speaker 3: like a startup, you have to know that part of it. 589 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 3: So part of what you were talking about before is 590 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 3: accepting victimhood. I think it's when we choose not to 591 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,959 Speaker 3: move through something and we choose to be a martyr 592 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 3: about it or a victim to it, right, And you 593 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 3: can say, whatever it is sucks, but what am I 594 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 3: going to do about it? And when you are part 595 00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 3: of something like a company that you have decided to 596 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,080 Speaker 3: start and you put your money into it, and then 597 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 3: you lose that money and then you have to get 598 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 3: more money and then you spend that money, but you 599 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 3: all the while you're kind of blindly saying to yourself, 600 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 3: I believe in the mission, I believe in the vision. 601 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 3: I'm not going to let go. I'm not going to 602 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 3: let go. I've heard these stories. I've heard people say 603 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 3: we failed and we pulled ourselves up, and we did. 604 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 3: And that has been the thing that has been the 605 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 3: most sort of a chute for me is taking those 606 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 3: moments where I am unable to sleep and I'm afraid 607 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: and i'm and money is looming as a problem. But 608 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 3: you know that the larger message that you started this 609 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 3: whole thing for is the thing that you cannot deny. 610 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 3: That is to be that afraid and keep forging ahead, 611 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 3: and then to look back four years later and say, 612 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,480 Speaker 3: look how far we've come. Look at what just the 613 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 3: last seven months have been. Yeah. 614 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 2: I remember running into you by the way in New 615 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 2: York City. I was with a friend and you were 616 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 2: at Cafe Cliney and you were like, I'm starting something. 617 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 2: It's really exciting, I'm figuring it out. I don't know 618 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 2: you were. It was a table of I feel like 619 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 2: you had like maybe four people around you, and it 620 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 2: was just like I remember being like, I can't wait 621 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 2: to see what this is. 622 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 3: Well, I went to interest was it started for the 623 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 3: right reasons, and the community that was built out of 624 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 3: beginning is now. 625 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 4: Has now become a fully more fully flushed out whole 626 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 4: vision and mission for women over forty to really help 627 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 4: solve problems that they're encountering. 628 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 2: Which problem is are you all do you feel like 629 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,279 Speaker 2: is being solved that you're most proud of? 630 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 3: At first, it was the community like you are not alone. 631 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 3: I am not alone. I am pissed that only one 632 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 3: percent of all marketing and advertisement has women sixty plus 633 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 3: in it. That is unheard of. 634 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 4: You know. 635 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 3: I'm when people say, oh, do you think Hollywood's changing 636 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 3: in their writing stories for women of a certain age, 637 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 3: And I say yes, like it's great. But here's to me, 638 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 3: we are actually even more interesting than the divorcee who 639 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 3: now is sleeping with a twenty year old, Like, we 640 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 3: are actually these unbelievable women that have so much that 641 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 3: we bring to the table. And when you I've recently 642 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,240 Speaker 3: been able to work with some actresses who are older, 643 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 3: and they come to the table with everything, including their 644 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 3: little girl selves and their insecurities, including their knowledge and 645 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 3: their history and their experience, and you say to yourself, like, 646 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 3: that is what's becoming a part of the conversation. So like, 647 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 3: to me, that's been the most rewarding is having conversations 648 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:37,240 Speaker 3: with women all over the world and they're still saying 649 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,480 Speaker 3: like thank you, we didn't feel represented. But now let's 650 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 3: look at these these things we're encountering and not look 651 00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 3: at them like oh, it's the beginning of the end 652 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 3: and you're decrepit, but like, let's look at them and 653 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 3: let's solve these problems. 654 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 1: Well how about look at them. 655 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: I mean, we have there's so many other cultures that 656 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: put such a huge value on age and maturity, right. 657 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 3: The ones, Yes, here's the cheap in the everything and 658 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 3: that you know. 659 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 2: Absolutely and now I mean, you know, I think, I mean, 660 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,720 Speaker 2: I'm just such a huge fan and I've of self 661 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 2: care and I you know, I'm on most to do lists. 662 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 2: I put myself last because I also am like in 663 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: the thick of it with the kids and everything else. 664 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 2: But I I find that, you know, the more that 665 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 2: we have the access and proximity to being able to 666 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 2: take care of ourselves, It's like I'm looking at all 667 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 2: these just women that are not only you know, have 668 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 2: have more experience and have different experience and bring all 669 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 2: this value. But they're also going like, and I'm going 670 00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 2: to be I'm going to I'm going to value my health. 671 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,960 Speaker 2: I'm going to value being fit. I'm going to value 672 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:50,160 Speaker 2: how I feed myself. I'm going to speak about myself kindly. 673 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 2: I'm going to you know, I'm going to bring all 674 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 2: these lessons and I'm going to share them with everyone. 675 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 2: I think that that's I feel like that's happening in 676 00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,719 Speaker 2: a really big way. Maybe I just wasn't around it 677 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,240 Speaker 2: because as I was around all people that were you know, younger, 678 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 2: But I just I find that it's so universal these days, 679 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 2: like it feels like it's you're really much around it. 680 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 3: Well. I also think that like we call at commence, 681 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 3: we call ourselves a care brand, and our whole motto 682 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 3: is take care. And when I say that, there's a 683 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,720 Speaker 3: narrative different reasons that that sort of you know, brings 684 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 3: up and we're so talks about it's like, take care 685 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 3: of yourself because you deserve it. Take the care that's 686 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 3: available to you from the people who feed you positively 687 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,360 Speaker 3: in your life, you know, take care to not play 688 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 3: those tapes over in your head that diminish your value 689 00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 3: in your own eye, you know, take the take yourself 690 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 3: and care for yourself and say, like that group of girls, 691 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 3: I don't feel good about myself when I'm when I'm 692 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,759 Speaker 3: around them or that person or or that job or 693 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 3: that doesn't me It doesn't help me, and I leave 694 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 3: feeling smaller. So that means to me, that's really understanding 695 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 3: what it means to take care of ourselves so that 696 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 3: we can how do we want to live our lives 697 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 3: in the most care generating way, you know, And that's 698 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 3: our whole vision, you know, we say it commenced, like 699 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,959 Speaker 3: we want to encourage women to live, and we say 700 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 3: fearlessly and we say optimistically and joyfully. But it's not 701 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 3: a pressure. It's that you've earned this position in your 702 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 3: actual life because you've done so much for so many 703 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 3: other people. You've come so far, and you deserve to 704 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 3: care about who you are as a person and feel 705 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 3: really good about that. Like you deserve to love yourself. 706 00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 3: Like it sounds like another magnet on a refrigerator, but 707 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,759 Speaker 3: it's a real thing. And when you start that. I 708 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,440 Speaker 3: remember saying to myself once I was going into some 709 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 3: job that I felt in over my head about and 710 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 3: and I like, I just felt like I was sort 711 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 3: of going to drown in it. And I said, I 712 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 3: wonder how you would walk into the room if you 713 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 3: really just said you're enough. Brooke, Like, yeah, it sounds 714 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 3: like dorky, but you're kind of like, oh, I might 715 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 3: just be good enough. Yeah, be alive. Where you know, 716 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 3: we're not taught that as younger people. 717 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 2: Did you have anyone when you were younger that felt 718 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 2: wise in that in the way that like that could 719 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:51,719 Speaker 2: that that. 720 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 1: Sort of pulled you up? 721 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 2: That was like, Brooke, there's this there's this other way 722 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 2: of looking at it. 723 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 3: I mean, actually, no, I think most of the people 724 00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 3: that I sort of like my mother who I looked 725 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 3: up to, I felt responsible for keeping her alive like 726 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,439 Speaker 3: so that that comes with a lot of self doubt 727 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:13,720 Speaker 3: in other ways. 728 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 2: Well an a codependency, so. 729 00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure and in an ameshment, but there were 730 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 3: some male relationships that I had that sort of reverted 731 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,279 Speaker 3: the mirror back to me and said, you know, I 732 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 3: want you to see yourself the way I see you, 733 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 3: like this is what I fell in love with. I'd 734 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 3: like you to see that person because if you knew 735 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:40,240 Speaker 3: her like, if you knew her, bless them like her 736 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 3: like And you know, one of my early early relationships 737 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,839 Speaker 3: that I was able to be that was a huge 738 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 3: part of it, one of my more serious relationships. None 739 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 3: of them worked out in the long run. I mean, thankfully. 740 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 2: Isn't that amazing how that's such a gift where it 741 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,440 Speaker 2: doesn't work out and you're like killing yourself. Well, I 742 00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 2: have a question when you were in your when you 743 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 2: were starting out, And again, by the way, I maybe 744 00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 2: I'm making this up, but I feel like I I 745 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 2: remember seeing the billboards like I actually remember the Calvin 746 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,920 Speaker 2: Kline billboards being oh I remember those being up. But 747 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 2: at that part of your life, who was like your 748 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:22,360 Speaker 2: super biggest like who was who was like the crushworthiest? 749 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: Like who were you like? Because you were like you 750 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: were kind of. 751 00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,360 Speaker 2: The tippy top, Like what is the tippy top? Like 752 00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:30,240 Speaker 2: you workus again, I think a wind machine, fology wherever 753 00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,759 Speaker 2: you went. In my mind, that's the story I'm making up. 754 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 1: You would just walk down the street. 755 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 2: It would be like, oh, Brook, good Brook. 756 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the way I. I slept my best, so 757 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 3: I got out of bed. I had a wind machine 758 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 3: put in my bedroom, just like I loved No. I 759 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,680 Speaker 3: mean it was funny because I liked certain movies right, 760 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:53,720 Speaker 3: but I like I loved the fact that John travill 761 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:58,000 Speaker 3: To dance the way he did like Robin Williams, like 762 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:04,280 Speaker 3: so funny, genius. My my life is like like I 763 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,919 Speaker 3: I went like Comedians, like I went any sexy Lucille Ball, 764 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 3: I went like I. I didn't have heart throbs as 765 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 3: much because most of the heart throbs I had already 766 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:16,360 Speaker 3: worked with. 767 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: And they were kind of boring. 768 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 3: They were just such work was sweet, but they were. 769 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 2: True big generalization alert But yes, the more handsome, the 770 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 2: more boring or a lot of work are. 771 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 3: Just boys, and they needed so much attention, and I 772 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 3: was just like, uh, hi, I'm not playing this game anymore. 773 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 3: And so I got like so just like like little girl, 774 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 3: I'm like, they bother me. I don't like, you know, 775 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 3: and everybody's like, oh my god, everybody's in love with them, 776 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 3: and I'm just like, oh, rolling my eyes, like you know, 777 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 3: and like the little sister that is just so over 778 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,120 Speaker 3: the sibling that's getting all the attention, and you're just 779 00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 3: kind of you get petulant about it, you know. So 780 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,200 Speaker 3: I wasn't. I didn't fall into the same category of 781 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 3: heart throbs, you know, because my heart throbs were like 782 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 3: David Cassidy and you know, Scott Beao and late Garrett BeO. 783 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 3: I mean, you were like, it's so funny like to 784 00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 3: now look back and you just kind of go like, oh, 785 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 3: those are my scrap books of you know, heart throbs. 786 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: Did you ever get to meet? Did you ever did you. 787 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 3: Ever send one of them? I met every one of them. 788 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,760 Speaker 1: And okay, so so don't you don't need to name names. 789 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 2: But like percentage wise mostly lived up to the hype 790 00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,239 Speaker 2: or mostly didn't. 791 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 3: You know, not the same kind of hype that we 792 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 3: were all putting them up against. Yeah, they just got 793 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:54,360 Speaker 3: to be too human too quickly. Yeah. But I remember 794 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:58,239 Speaker 3: Scott Bao gave me a corsage on my wrist and 795 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,080 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, he's. 796 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,399 Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, at the beginning of a date, 797 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,439 Speaker 2: like he pulled up and had a corsage. 798 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, like there's We went to some party and. 799 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, were you going to a dance? 800 00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 3: It wasn't a prom or anything. It was just like 801 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 3: a party I think in Hollywood, and like the Scottie 802 00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 3: brothers were I don't know. 803 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 2: Do you think his mom called him and was like, 804 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 2: I'm sure you got to pick up you got to 805 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 2: pick up a corsage. Yeah, you're on a date with Brickshews. 806 00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 2: You gotta have a corsage, yeah, she probably. 807 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,960 Speaker 1: And did you wear it? Did you want to wear 808 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: it with pride? Okay? 809 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 3: I love it? 810 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 2: I love it? 811 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: Okay, great, I love it. 812 00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:36,040 Speaker 3: Well. 813 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 1: I love chatting with you. 814 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 2: I really do anytime anywhere, by accident or on purpose. 815 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 2: And thank you so much for spending this time with me. 816 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you so much for having me And 817 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,120 Speaker 3: tell your partner in crime that we missed her. 818 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 2: I know, I know she's gonna be she well, she 819 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 2: already is so bummed. We talked about it and I 820 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,480 Speaker 2: was like, but. 821 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:58,799 Speaker 3: She's making a difference. She's making you guys authentic. 822 00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 2: I know she's responding to some medical you know, major 823 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,840 Speaker 2: minor medical drama, which is awesome. 824 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,320 Speaker 3: I know, how great to be able to be called 825 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:08,719 Speaker 3: in for that. I know. 826 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 2: Guess she's given America what she wants. She said it 827 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 2: was because someone uh got sick after the holidays. And 828 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,760 Speaker 2: then I talked to last night and her voice sounded 829 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,640 Speaker 2: funny and I was like, why does your voice sound funny? 830 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 2: And she's like, because I'm sick, and I was like, okay, 831 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 2: so everybody's sick. 832 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,160 Speaker 1: It's just like I remember having. 833 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 2: I mean, I know you have these stories, but I 834 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 2: remember being shocked by it. I remember calling up our 835 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 2: main producer, who was like the line producer, and being like, 836 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 2: I'm really sick, Like I do not feel well. 837 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:37,839 Speaker 3: I felt like. 838 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 2: Swallowing glass shards. And he was like, so, okay, but 839 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 2: what are you trying to say. I think I don't 840 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,359 Speaker 2: think I should be at work, like I think I'm 841 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,200 Speaker 2: really sick, and he was like, okay, but then I'll 842 00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 2: call a doctor. I'll call a doctor, and the doctors 843 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 2: would come. 844 00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:54,400 Speaker 3: And give you a B twelve shot. 845 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd give you a B twelve shot to I 846 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,920 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I guess, I don't know. 847 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, lob you this was pre COVID, so it wasn't 848 00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 2: even like they said, like, and maybe you should put 849 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 2: on my mask so you don't give everyone else on 850 00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 2: the set strep throat. But yeah, I remember, just like 851 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:10,360 Speaker 2: that show must go on. 852 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I got I found out I was pregnant right 853 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 3: before I started Chicago on Broadway, and I remember thinking like, 854 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 3: oh god, oh god, I'm going to get tired. And 855 00:46:20,080 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 3: I and I I didn't tell anybody, and I just 856 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 3: told my and I said, went to my doctor and 857 00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,759 Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm supposed to go do this show. And 858 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,600 Speaker 3: he said, well, knowing you, you will work out during pregnancy, 859 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,840 Speaker 3: so just don't work out in addition to the show. 860 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 3: And I he's like, because your body's going to be 861 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 3: able to be fine because you've worked out through your 862 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,760 Speaker 3: other pregnancy and that's what you do, so just don't 863 00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,839 Speaker 3: overdo it and don't work out in addition to and 864 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,600 Speaker 3: then when I started to show, I had to like 865 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 3: take my more drone person aside and say like, hey, 866 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,319 Speaker 3: you know those like waists and and she goes, I 867 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,240 Speaker 3: see nothing, I know nothing. I think you've been eating 868 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 3: too many pieces of candy. And I'm just gonna I'm 869 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:14,400 Speaker 3: gonna let your costumes out. And she didn't tell anybody, 870 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 3: but we had to keep it a secret. And and 871 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 3: then finally I was like nearing the end of my 872 00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:26,440 Speaker 3: run and it was obvious like that I was, you know, 873 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:25,640 Speaker 3: she was. 874 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: Troublemaker, that. 875 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 3: Totally. But another thing too, It's like I just recently 876 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,719 Speaker 3: had to call a big meeting with everybody because I 877 00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:42,799 Speaker 3: was starting to get unhealthy because of my schedule. And 878 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,520 Speaker 3: every day more is added to it, and there's more 879 00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 3: and more and more and more, and it's for the 880 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,640 Speaker 3: book tour and it's for this and it's for that, 881 00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,839 Speaker 3: and everybody's just doing their job, and I keep thinking, oh, 882 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,160 Speaker 3: they're going to see that. I'm starting to like pray here. 883 00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 3: And and I woke up like New Year's Day kind 884 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,759 Speaker 3: of after sort of separating myself for a bit, and 885 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,600 Speaker 3: I was thinking, no, they're not, they're not. They are 886 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,680 Speaker 3: not going to think of you and be like, oh, 887 00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 3: well she might be overextended. No, they think, oh, we 888 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 3: got to add this, we got to do this, we 889 00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 3: got to and if I I just called them all 890 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,880 Speaker 3: and I said I'm done. Don't add another thing to 891 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 3: my schedule nothing. I said, I have two jobs coming 892 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 3: up that I need to have priority emotionally. I need 893 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 3: to be able to prepare for them. They are creative. 894 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:38,280 Speaker 3: They have nothing to do with the book, the company equity. No, No, 895 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 3: they are my creative life. And if I don't keep 896 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 3: nurturing my creative life as an actress, I will become 897 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:50,120 Speaker 3: bitter to all of your departments and I will become 898 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 3: difficult and I will say no before you even ask me. 899 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,720 Speaker 3: And if you want to get your pound of flesh 900 00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 3: out of me, this is what I need. And it 901 00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 3: was so interesting to be this age and finally, you know, 902 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 3: and they all responded with great, we get it. Yeah yeah, 903 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 3: And I was like, damn it, Why did I do this? 904 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:10,720 Speaker 3: But I earlier? 905 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's called boundaries. 906 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 1: Found not good at them? 907 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,360 Speaker 2: But you know what you yeah? Yeah, I mean listen, 908 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 2: I always say. I mean, I'm a recovering people pleaser, 909 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 2: I'm a fixer. I to you know, single mom, codependent, 910 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 2: like all the stuff, and you just look at how 911 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 2: and I never I don't bemoan it and I don't 912 00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,239 Speaker 2: complain about it. It's how I was put together. And 913 00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,080 Speaker 2: I more just go like, oh well, I understand. Like, 914 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 2: by the way, maybe my tone is going to be 915 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:42,799 Speaker 2: different because I'm not mad at you all for putting 916 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 2: it on my schedule. I'm more like, I see how 917 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 2: this happened. I was I'm going to do about it, 918 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:49,520 Speaker 2: and you were being. 919 00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: You and now I'm going to just hit the reset 920 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,280 Speaker 1: button and be like, we're going to do it different 921 00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 1: from here on out. 922 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to do that anymore. Yeah. 923 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,000 Speaker 1: No, but I'll take it all on. I'll take it all. 924 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:02,360 Speaker 2: But you know what that being said, it's the blessing 925 00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,280 Speaker 2: and the curse because it's what I love about myself 926 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 2: so much, and it's also what can make things a 927 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 2: little tough sometimes. 928 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 3: Yeah. And if you you know, when you start to 929 00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:13,719 Speaker 3: if you start to become a victim to it, then 930 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 3: it's on you to go, oh yeah, it doesn't fit anymore. 931 00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,920 Speaker 3: It used to feel me and now I don't like 932 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 3: the way that feels. I want to still be me, 933 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 3: but I'm just gonna carve it out a little differently. 934 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and sometimes take a minute to do that. 935 00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, I mean, everyone talks about this, 936 00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:33,600 Speaker 2: but everyone's just so in a rush. They like want 937 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 2: their answer for everything. Now you have to do it now, 938 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,359 Speaker 2: and now we have all these smartphones so we actually 939 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 2: can do it now. And you can literally be sitting there. 940 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 3: I know. 941 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 2: And now I watched my fourteen year old Like, they 942 00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 2: expect it from me. They expect how productive I can be. 943 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,280 Speaker 2: They expect me to be able to order the thing. 944 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 1: While calling the guy to then fix the thing. 945 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 2: And it all happens so quick because I. 946 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 3: Can't have before and you can. 947 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,399 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and now I'm like, oh right, this might 948 00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 2: be yours to do. 949 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 1: How about you take this? 950 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:07,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love you. 951 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 2: Mommy loves you. 952 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 3: You call well, no, you're eighteen, you actually have to 953 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 3: be the one to call. 954 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Mommy loves you. 955 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 1: This is Mommy loving you. 956 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 3: Bye bye, oh boy, oh my god. 957 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 2: Okay, Well I could talk to you all day, but 958 00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,839 Speaker 2: I think actually your people want you to go back 959 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:30,120 Speaker 2: to work. 960 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,839 Speaker 3: Okay, I have to go back to work. I got 961 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 3: my next whatever it is. 962 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:36,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I adore you. 963 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 2: I like watching you in all the different iterations of you. 964 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 2: Certainly not reinventions, but thank you for allowing the world 965 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,000 Speaker 2: access to the different parts of you. And and I'm 966 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,319 Speaker 2: just grateful for you. 967 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,799 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Happy New 968 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:54,200 Speaker 3: Year and all the above stuff. 969 00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:59,480 Speaker 2: Happy New Year, thanks bye bye. 970 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 3: The ste took a 971 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:04,920 Speaker 2: Step and took him the feet