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Speaker 1: That's allbrds dot com. Welcomed Unexplained Extra with me Richard

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Speaker 1: McClean smith. For the weeks in between episodes, we look

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Speaker 1: first coined by physicist professor Ernst Senkovsky in the nineteen seventies. ITC,

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Speaker 1: Although it can take the form of images or indeed

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Speaker 1: any rational scientist, Ernst Senkovsky naturally balked at Jurgenson's outlandish claim, and,

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Speaker 1: Seven years previously, Latvian psychologist doctor Constantine Roudevai had also

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Speaker 1: inspired by Friedrich Jurgensen, specifically his nineteen sixty seven book

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Speaker 1: Radio Contact with the Dead. Roudevai, who would go on

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Speaker 1: Raudevai voices recorded over seventy thousand vocal communications of unknown

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Speaker 1: In nineteen seventy one, Roudevay was invited to demonstrate his

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Speaker 1: that I cannot explain in normal physical terms. Are you

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Speaker 1: slash Unexplained Podcast. It was December seventh, eighteen seventy seven,

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Speaker 1: Bordouin made an interesting discovery of his own. While perusing

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Speaker 1: Observations of Thomas Alva Edison. The book, in itself, a

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