Speaker 1: Pushkin m Ran next week for a conversation. This is
Speaker 1: not Lost California, so far out of my feeling. I
Speaker 1: am Brendan. Friends's new in him great, feel great that
Speaker 1: it's not in New York. That's my friend, the audio
Speaker 1: producer John Delor, just like it is an incredible joy
Speaker 1: to just be out of the city. Yes, right, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you. Every day. Hey, Tony, how's Brooklyn's most popular
Speaker 1: dry cleaner doing the most? You're always doing something, the
Speaker 1: most famous guy in Greenpoint. I'm happy to have a
Speaker 1: presence with you. Listen. I'm glad that I see almost everything.
Speaker 1: You are truly a fixture in this neighborhood. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
Speaker 1: That's an amazing thing. Come on, you're like the original.
Speaker 1: You're like the original. Don't don't don't. So what are
Speaker 1: you up to? I got looking sharp, you're looking sharper.
Speaker 1: I'm going to the office. But you drop these off,
Speaker 1: all right? You got a couple of shirts, Just gonna
Speaker 1: put them on the rock outside. I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: a lot of money from him. I'm gonna say this,
Speaker 1: this is Brendan shirts. How you know I have a
Speaker 1: feeling we're gonna have ninety degrees, but it's not what
Speaker 1: you want, so dred degrees for like three months? Yeah? Yeah, never, No,
Speaker 1: I not so hot today? What are we doing here? Why?
Speaker 1: Why are we in New York City? Where would you
Speaker 1: rather be? Like I I understand what you try, but
Speaker 1: where would you rather be? Well that's the problem when
Speaker 1: I really think about it, I don't know the answer.
Speaker 1: And it seems like New York is a good place
Speaker 1: to not have the answer. Yeah, but I mean where
Speaker 1: else can you have this? You're you're pointing towards a
Speaker 1: there's a bag of trash out front, and uh, well
Speaker 1: it's part of the scenery. Welcome to New York. Look,
Speaker 1: there's a dog that wants to stop in. Do you
Speaker 1: tell me? Where could you be? And you can have
Speaker 1: this kind of interaction with people nowhere? It's fair. We're
Speaker 1: both social people and this city is a gift that
Speaker 1: keeps giving. Come on, I mean, you walked down a street,
Speaker 1: you say hello to this one, that one, you talk
Speaker 1: to this one. I mean, you're gonna be where. But
Speaker 1: the thing about New York, though, it's like it does
Speaker 1: like beat you down. Man, It's like it's not an
Speaker 1: easy place to live. You got to tell me what's easy.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can live up state and you're gonna
Speaker 1: come out in the morning and complain about what snow
Speaker 1: bears exactly the birds? And you grew up in the city, right, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: I was born lebon On. I didn't Okay, you're born
Speaker 1: in Beirut or I was one outside of me? Is
Speaker 1: that when your parents came here? They came in eighty two,
Speaker 1: right after the embassy Embassy bombing, and I went to
Speaker 1: Canarsi High School and you turned out. Okay, I think, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think you can have a dressed for my girlfriend
Speaker 1: and paint and black dress. Thank you, thank you. So
Speaker 1: you've seen me now for years. We've known each for
Speaker 1: a long time. It's how have I changed it at all?
Speaker 1: In your eyes in the past, like four or five years?
Speaker 1: Grumpy year, that's true. I still love you, but you're
Speaker 1: a different grumpy. You're like a cool grumpy you know. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you? You have to annoying grumpy like you want
Speaker 1: to like get away from them. No, no, it's the
Speaker 1: cool grumpy all right. So Tony, I have to travel
Speaker 1: one more place. So what what's your show about? Is it.
Speaker 1: I go places with a friend and I try to
Speaker 1: get invited to a dinner party. So I've done it. Montreal,
Speaker 1: Mexico City, Boza Montana, big sir, I've done this, and
Speaker 1: I have one more episode to make. And your kid
Speaker 1: who came up and out it didn't we us? Well?
Speaker 1: I mean I could are you this weeking, aren't you?
Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta make this show, man, I gott
Speaker 1: if this is what I'm spending my afternoon doing, I
Speaker 1: got I'm going to the office after this to kind
Speaker 1: of I mean, what you want to come up like
Speaker 1: Sunday night. That's tempting, but I seriously have to figure
Speaker 1: out this episode first. But speaking of which, I gotta go,
Speaker 1: So Tony, I'll see you later. Man, Thank you well.
Speaker 1: I enjoy your beautiful day. And again you're looking sharp.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Thanks man. I'm glad that you know you
Speaker 1: help me stay this way. Oh look at this another
Speaker 1: beautiful day. Hey Emma, Emma, Hi, what are you doing.
Speaker 1: I'm coming out of the library right. Do you only
Speaker 1: get one book at a time? Yeah, because I never
Speaker 1: want to have a fi ever, that's probably wise. So
Speaker 1: where's your mom? My favorite former college classmate? Oh? She
Speaker 1: left me here. But I guess you're old enough. Now,
Speaker 1: how old are you? I'm twelve. See, I thought I
Speaker 1: was young in New York when I moved here in
Speaker 1: my twenties, But you're like really young in New York.
Speaker 1: Where are you going? I'm actually going to the office.
Speaker 1: It's a Saturday though, I know. But remember I told
Speaker 1: you about that travel podcast I was working on. I
Speaker 1: have to make one more episode, and I have no
Speaker 1: idea where I'm going. All right, where do you think
Speaker 1: I should go? Um? Maybe I saw it in some
Speaker 1: TV show Reno Reno. Yeah, yeah, I did Las Vegas already,
Speaker 1: so I think I'm gonna I'm gonna skip Reno. But um,
Speaker 1: are you walking this way? I'm going up to the
Speaker 1: l Yeah, all right, let's do it. This neighborhood when
Speaker 1: I first moved here was nothing. This was like auto repair.
Speaker 1: Only my mom talks about it being like Williamsburg. Like
Speaker 1: when she was younger, it was like who But now
Speaker 1: Williamsburg is like chic. Yeah, it's like vegan, gluten free,
Speaker 1: food free restaurants. So what do you think about Waysber?
Speaker 1: Do you like living here? Yeah? I want to live
Speaker 1: in New York for my whole life. My mom tells
Speaker 1: me that I'm too young to decide that, But I
Speaker 1: like the fact that being a New Yorker is like
Speaker 1: being in a club. So what are the membership benefits
Speaker 1: of being part of that club. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: like arts and performing arts stuff in New York, I
Speaker 1: mean Broadway, but like it's just all these different things
Speaker 1: that are like New Yorker experiences. And also like pizza
Speaker 1: and bagels. I mean, pizza isn't specific to New York,
Speaker 1: but the best pizza it's in New York. Now you're
Speaker 1: making me hungry. Should we get a Joe's get a
Speaker 1: slice of pizza? Yeah? Okay, let's do it feel so
Speaker 1: far away though, it's let's to get there every single day.
Speaker 1: So day a little hectic up here. It appears to
Speaker 1: be an out door sports bar, so what happens when
Speaker 1: it rains exactly? But it's also a thing wonder of
Speaker 1: having so many So much partying is bad for kids
Speaker 1: like you, No, because to be living in New York
Speaker 1: you have to be good at ignoring things. Because we're
Speaker 1: also tightly packed together, right, you got to just keep
Speaker 1: it cool. Yeah, you just have to kind of not engage.
Speaker 1: We also just point out. Sorry to interrupt, but I'm
Speaker 1: six foot three and I've just been walking like full pace,
Speaker 1: not even calibrating, and you are just right along my side.
Speaker 1: I also walk really fast to get to school, and
Speaker 1: I think that dozes in New York, so that everyone's
Speaker 1: just trucking like we don't have time for that. Also,
Speaker 1: you've gotten taller, which helps with the fast walking. You're
Speaker 1: like shot up like stalks of corn. Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: A lot of the boys in my class haven't gone
Speaker 1: to that yet. Some I think I'm taller than all
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, the boys will catch up, but their
Speaker 1: brains won't. They'll always be behind you. They think they're
Speaker 1: so funny too. They think that they just they got
Speaker 1: the whole crowd laughing with their jokes, but they really didn't.
Speaker 1: And like they're not funny. Can't you can't get like
Speaker 1: knock on their heads and nothing in there? No, I
Speaker 1: mean I can't talk. You know, I have this show.
Speaker 1: But I'm just being a boy who thinks he's funny sometimes.
Speaker 1: All right, pizza, wow, pizza plates is packed? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: what's your pizza move? Just plane perni if it's at
Speaker 1: a party, Let's get to plane. All right, thanks, have
Speaker 1: a good It just came out of the oven. It's
Speaker 1: very hot. I'm very passionate about this. Every time we
Speaker 1: get into talking about the correct way to eat pizza,
Speaker 1: which is to fold the pizza, people argue about it,
Speaker 1: and that's not fold your pizza. It is better and
Speaker 1: everyone should do it. Why do you think it's better?
Speaker 1: It's better for walking traveling, and it's also I think
Speaker 1: it's like you get a better mouth feel and you
Speaker 1: get more more per bite. It's like a pizza sandwich.
Speaker 1: We can walk a little bit and then I'll go
Speaker 1: into the subway. Look how crazy Bedford is though, Wasn't
Speaker 1: this busy when you were when you're young? But I
Speaker 1: feel like New York City has so many different people.
Speaker 1: That's one of the things I love most about it.
Speaker 1: What do you mean, like there are such huge communities
Speaker 1: and you can be whoever you want to be in
Speaker 1: New York City and there will be a community of
Speaker 1: people that like relate to you when are the same
Speaker 1: like and feel the same way as you about something.
Speaker 1: And that's like pretty much a guarantee living in New
Speaker 1: York City. Because there's just so many individuals, there's bound
Speaker 1: to be a person who looks the same thing as
Speaker 1: you go. Yeah, I agree with that. It makes me
Speaker 1: feel less alone, even if I don't know all those people.
Speaker 1: You're right, I always feel like I'll figure it out here.
Speaker 1: All right, This is I gotta hop into the l
Speaker 1: It was nice chatting with you. You too, see you later.
Speaker 1: Dance clear of the closing doors, please, it's so time,
Speaker 1: basic gentlemen, gather around. It's about to begin, So time,
Speaker 1: So time, dude. Is this called showtime what you're doing?
Speaker 1: Or is this dance? It's actually we call it hitting.
Speaker 1: It's called hitting. What he want? Is it called hits?
Speaker 1: Anically a street performing what we callte it hitting because
Speaker 1: it's like it's a hit. It's a lot of him
Speaker 1: when we come out here and do this. It's a
Speaker 1: big impact on New York City. It's a hit. How
Speaker 1: did you get into it? It's such a it's such
Speaker 1: intense activity. Yeah. I got into it because but I
Speaker 1: was in high school. I met a friend freshman year
Speaker 1: and he was a dancer because his father did it,
Speaker 1: and he ain't mighty meet downtown because he seen I
Speaker 1: was a good dancer, and I took her from there
Speaker 1: and I was like, what over fifteen years ago, what's
Speaker 1: the craziest thing that's happened to you while you've been
Speaker 1: doing this. The craziest thing that happened to me was
Speaker 1: one guy gave me eight hundred dollars and yeah in
Speaker 1: one setting, just like because he's just so blown away.
Speaker 1: He was blowing away and he split it amongst the teams.
Speaker 1: A lot of people want to train and they get
Speaker 1: annoyed and aggravated in general. So when they come in
Speaker 1: here a lot of music on the train, it's like,
Speaker 1: oh boy, here we go. And I have to admit
Speaker 1: I love it. I've been that guy because like you,
Speaker 1: I'm going to work at a long night, you're getting
Speaker 1: an argument and you're on the train. They turn there
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh no, I'm on the longest link
Speaker 1: of the train. Yeah, And it makes sense. It's such
Speaker 1: a small area and it's it's sometimes you're flipping and
Speaker 1: you're like so close to them, they'll get nervous. I
Speaker 1: don't want to get hit. But what's amazing is that
Speaker 1: most times I've been I've seen short time on the
Speaker 1: train and like a hundred times, no one's ever been here. Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: my friend had he did a first flip and he
Speaker 1: landed on a ladies lap. Don't lap like she was
Speaker 1: like if she was saying so, and she was like oh,
Speaker 1: but she wasn't upset. She's like, oh, wow, you know
Speaker 1: how many of you? How many people? How many short
Speaker 1: time people do you think there is? It's a lot.
Speaker 1: It's a shoe for a lot of cruise. Chit you
Speaker 1: park Tom Square, thirty fourth Street, Junior Square, all over
Speaker 1: New York. Ask well, thanks so much for talking. Of course,
Speaker 1: man little Bible. You guys are great, Thank you, No
Speaker 1: I would be balking, like, how are you worried on Saturday?
Speaker 1: Thank you? Hey, Amy Top, Hey, my name is Malcolm Gladwell.
Speaker 1: Welcome to my podcast about here recording right now? Yeah, misunderstood.
Speaker 1: Wait did I just hear someone come in here? Brendon's here? Brendan? Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's he doing here on a Saturday? Can we talk
Speaker 1: about his travel show for a second. We're sending him
Speaker 1: all over the country to find himself. It's bananas, Malcolm, Well,
Speaker 1: at least it's not a true crime show. Hey Brendon,
Speaker 1: can hear you? Oh? Hey Malcolm, Hey Bendon, it makes
Speaker 1: you feel any better? I haven't actually listened to your show.
Speaker 1: Yet I think that makes me feel better. I guess
Speaker 1: it's good to see people here on a Saturday. You know,
Speaker 1: when I worked in LA, I would work all these saturdays.
Speaker 1: I never ran into anyone. What does it say about
Speaker 1: New York that I come into the office and there's
Speaker 1: a bunch of you here today. Well this, this actually
Speaker 1: gets into one of my larger theories about New York,
Speaker 1: which is New York life is exterior. LA life is interior. Right,
Speaker 1: So the implicit bargain you make in moving to New
Speaker 1: York is that you're buying the exterior, not the interior.
Speaker 1: So of course New Yorkers are in the office on
Speaker 1: Saturday because the existence of the office is a reason
Speaker 1: to go there. Right, It's a that's good. It's a
Speaker 1: good reason to get out of my tiny apartment, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, is the Great paradox. It's another one
Speaker 1: my theories, this is the Great Paradox. So the New
Speaker 1: York City turnaround in the mid nineties coincides with three
Speaker 1: television sitcoms which celebrate the life of young people living
Speaker 1: in New York. Right, Everyone's Out Seinfeld, Friends, Will and
Speaker 1: Grace Right, Boom boom, Boom and now all of those
Speaker 1: cell a vision of New York that's tremendously appealing to
Speaker 1: people around the country, and they're part of the Revival's
Speaker 1: extraordinary revival that New York comes back from the dead
Speaker 1: in the nineties and propelled I think by the power
Speaker 1: of this fantasy. The fantasy it is completely wrong. Why
Speaker 1: is the fantasy wrong Because the people in those shows
Speaker 1: never leave their apartment. Now, they'll never leave their apartment
Speaker 1: for TV reasons, because that's the set. But like two cameras,
Speaker 1: it's an La vision of a New York life. Right,
Speaker 1: there's those shows are They were all made in La La,
Speaker 1: of course, so they construct these fabulous New York City
Speaker 1: apartments that people never leave, which is one hundred percent wrong. Right.
Speaker 1: It's the great irony of New York's revival is it
Speaker 1: was propelled by a completely false picture of what living
Speaker 1: in New York. Man. Yeah, um, all right, So I
Speaker 1: still have to pick another place in America, North America.
Speaker 1: Do you have any suggestions for me? I should maybe
Speaker 1: think about going to Well, I mean, my favorites are
Speaker 1: all the kind of like you know, Nashville. I do
Speaker 1: love have a I have a great and overpowering love
Speaker 1: of an Atlanta I'm going to this week. I'm just
Speaker 1: full of excited about my trip to Atlanta. Um and
Speaker 1: I just welcome. I need you back in the booth.
Speaker 1: Sounds like you gotta go anyway, all right, Malcolm, thanks
Speaker 1: for the chat. Thank you, See you later, Amy. I
Speaker 1: still have no idea what he shows about. Welcome. Wait
Speaker 1: still here is later, Malcolm. The subway is down there,
Speaker 1: no trains at the station. If you need to get uptown,
Speaker 1: you're gonna take the buses over there. The subway is
Speaker 1: closed again. Yep. Wait those buses over there. Yes, the
Speaker 1: buses right over there. You're going to cross the street
Speaker 1: and take those buses you need to get up like
Speaker 1: tour buses. That's what they are. They are tour buses,
Speaker 1: but they're on a different route. They're gonna take you uptown. Jesus, okay,
Speaker 1: subway's clothes. Sadie, Hey, oh my god, high so good
Speaker 1: to see you. Of course I would find Sadie Stein
Speaker 1: woman about town here in Union Square on a Saturday.
Speaker 1: Use my absorption. You're just deep in your phone. What
Speaker 1: are you doing? Are you? It was as usual, trying
Speaker 1: to figure out the transportation situation in this city. I know.
Speaker 1: Then they're pointing us to take these buses. You think
Speaker 1: this is a better idea at this hour than walking?
Speaker 1: Because this was a calculus. I was actually mid well,
Speaker 1: you know what, it's an opportunity for us to be
Speaker 1: on the top of a tour bus, so maybe we
Speaker 1: should just go for it. All right? What else am
Speaker 1: I dear? Maybe we can Maybe we'll take this up
Speaker 1: the ground Central and sort it out from that. Really
Speaker 1: that's perfect because I have to be on the sixth
Speaker 1: after Okay, great, Well, I'm just speaking to see if
Speaker 1: we can get upstairs if anyone's leaving. But I don't
Speaker 1: think anyone is leaving. Oh let's try it. Let's go
Speaker 1: potagraph these two right here? Oh yeah, let's do those.
Speaker 1: I always thought this is probably the best way to
Speaker 1: see the city. I've done it in London, but never
Speaker 1: done it in New York. What are like three sady
Speaker 1: spots us tell people to check out to get all
Speaker 1: the flavor of your New York. All right, I guess
Speaker 1: I'd say Whispering Gallery at Grand Central. This is where
Speaker 1: people can stand at opposite sides of this arch and
Speaker 1: the person will hear it on the other side, walk
Speaker 1: over the Brooklyn Bridge Classicum, and then maybe the picture
Speaker 1: gallery of the New York Historical Society, the Dancing Bears.
Speaker 1: Where is the New York Historical Society on the West side?
Speaker 1: It's on West End. I mean, how do you feel
Speaker 1: about I've now been here on and off for a
Speaker 1: couple of decades, and I'm finally coming to terms of
Speaker 1: this is my home, and I get grumpy that I
Speaker 1: have to share it all the time. What is your
Speaker 1: take on sharing the town with visitors? That's what I
Speaker 1: like about it, But but you know how perverse I am.
Speaker 1: I like I like Times Square, I love tourists. I
Speaker 1: love talking to them, giving them directions. I'm so proud
Speaker 1: of the city and showing it off, and it interests
Speaker 1: me what is the city they're seeing? It's so different
Speaker 1: from anything we've ever known. I mean, I haven't been
Speaker 1: to the Statue of Liberty since I went on a
Speaker 1: sixth grade school trip. I have never been to the
Speaker 1: top of the Empire State Building because there's never the
Speaker 1: day when you want to stand in line for two hours. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you can learn from the tourists about your own town. Perversely, absolutely,
Speaker 1: it's the city contains so many cities within it. That's
Speaker 1: that's what I like. I mean, this is why I
Speaker 1: could never imagine doing an episode about New York, because, yeah,
Speaker 1: you could just do the West Village, could be an
Speaker 1: eight part season, that one they rode Alone and you.
Speaker 1: But sort of the whole thing about being here, isn't
Speaker 1: it You have an abundance of everything, and you always
Speaker 1: know what you don't know. I like that. I find
Speaker 1: it comforting. I find that comforting too. All right, So
Speaker 1: we're here by the library. Here, we are by the
Speaker 1: Stephen Schwartzman Main Branch Library. Do you ever work here?
Speaker 1: I actually have in that beautiful, beautiful room up there,
Speaker 1: I forget the name of it right now, in the
Speaker 1: Rose Reading Room. Yeah, the Rose Reading Room. You know,
Speaker 1: for a while, people were coming in so regularly to
Speaker 1: look at the ceiling. I felt like it was inhibiting
Speaker 1: the behavior of some of the cranks there. Tell me
Speaker 1: more real, Like you used to go in there be
Speaker 1: someone clipping their toenails across the table from you. I'm
Speaker 1: working on their life's memoirs simultaneously. You So, when you
Speaker 1: were younger, did you come here? Yeah? Yeah, But it
Speaker 1: also didn't have as the exhibits in the gift shop
Speaker 1: and things like that weren't as curated and you couldn't
Speaker 1: get a bite d So a lot of the changes
Speaker 1: are terrific, but it's certainly more of a tour attraction. Yeah, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: we're here. We can have out all right when we
Speaker 1: grab some lunch at the Oyster Bart. You know, when
Speaker 1: I first moved back here, i worked nearby. I would
Speaker 1: take the train to Grand Central and still in love
Speaker 1: with it. It's still does all the things for me.
Speaker 1: I feel like, I don't know, there's such a romance
Speaker 1: to it. Let's peak, Can we peak at the ceiling
Speaker 1: and then we can go down to the Shall we
Speaker 1: do the short cut to the Oh but um rush
Speaker 1: hour coming through here? Such great energy. So I just
Speaker 1: read recently that six hundred thousand people is that a
Speaker 1: possible passed through here on a given day, which is
Speaker 1: the population of San Francisco, And rarely does anyone run
Speaker 1: into each other. Everyone can just kind of do this
Speaker 1: the urban ballet. That's true. If you, if you and
Speaker 1: if you want to even meet up with someone, we
Speaker 1: always used to meet by the clock. Yeah for soft phones?
Speaker 1: Can we open? Yeah? Oh, I'm sure there Eureka. So
Speaker 1: we're going in the side door to the Oyster Saloon.
Speaker 1: This place is so great if you want to do
Speaker 1: the bar or the middle here, how will we do
Speaker 1: down here on the right? I love this the crossroms.
Speaker 1: Theres a guy in a suit a dap pursuit having
Speaker 1: a salad and a beers a cavar sand much please
Speaker 1: tell me about that. See it's not only pretty affordable,
Speaker 1: yeah I mean relatively speaking, but um delicious, unique and
Speaker 1: kind of luxurious. And I will get um the crab
Speaker 1: cake sandwich and a nice tea thank you. Oyster Bar
Speaker 1: is one of the spaces in New York which has
Speaker 1: these these vaulted ceilings with gustamino tiling, so the acoustics
Speaker 1: are kind of special. You can also always hear the
Speaker 1: bustle of them making the pan rose and the oyster
Speaker 1: stew and um No, this place I find very comforting.
Speaker 1: It's another one of those places in New York where
Speaker 1: I'm just happy to know it's here. Un If I
Speaker 1: don't go to it for like a couple of months,
Speaker 1: you just know in the back of your mind, the
Speaker 1: lightings here, the vibes here, the guys are here. I
Speaker 1: like the places you can take for granted, that's so
Speaker 1: much what I what I prize your caviar sandwich. I
Speaker 1: thought it was going to have cream inside it, but
Speaker 1: it is just components of things that are good with
Speaker 1: caviarts fantastic. Would you like to try some of my
Speaker 1: crab cake. I'm not gonna you can finish. I don't
Speaker 1: know if I can do both, but I will pack away.
Speaker 1: One of the risks of coming to the Grand Central
Speaker 1: Oyster Virus that my dad is often here. He makes
Speaker 1: all his appointments here, and his order is multiple bowls
Speaker 1: of Manhattan clamchet. Yeah, why do you think? Do you
Speaker 1: think he has a reasons he's here? Is the same
Speaker 1: as you, is a fondness for these classic things. Now,
Speaker 1: he loves Manhattan clam chatter. I've never met anyone who
Speaker 1: has a positive preference for it. The existence of Manhattan
Speaker 1: clam chatter does not offend me. Dad loves it. Any
Speaker 1: wisdom pearls of wisdom from New York? Is there a
Speaker 1: writer you Meyer that really captured what your relationship is
Speaker 1: in New York? And I don't want to misquote it,
Speaker 1: but it's that Dorothy Parker quote. If you make it
Speaker 1: through the night. In New York, you can live through
Speaker 1: anything or something. It's some great quote about depression. I'll
Speaker 1: find you the real one, and the essence of it is,
Speaker 1: um nights can New York can be hard, but if
Speaker 1: you can make it, you feel not light in the
Speaker 1: window of the neighboring building. It can be so lonely.
Speaker 1: Here would you see attraction because you're just surrounded by everyone,
Speaker 1: but there's a wall. They still have all the barriers
Speaker 1: to entry. But it's just like what you be what said?
Speaker 1: Right for those who value such queer PRIs as New
Speaker 1: York offers the gift of privacy, I'm gonna be mindful time. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're done here, I rose, we just paid, so we're good.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, thank you. Wow. Okay, so we are.
Speaker 1: We're a whispering gallery in front of the Oyster Bar.
Speaker 1: Which is how does this work? Again? I mean I
Speaker 1: don't I can't explain the physics, but where the arch
Speaker 1: forms one of these acoustical odd of these found throughout
Speaker 1: the world, including Saint Paul's most famously, I believe. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And as you see, if we stand in opposite diagonal
Speaker 1: ql far apart, that's like fifty. Yeah, all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's try it. See if this works. Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can't hear you. Yeah, okay, let
Speaker 1: me think I see okay, I don't have any Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't have any right now. This is zgol. But
Speaker 1: I can say just thank you for coming to lunch
Speaker 1: with me, and I hope you have a great rest
Speaker 1: of your day anytime. All right, all my I wish
Speaker 1: all my characters ended with me just talking into a corner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: finally some phone reception. Danielle, why is she? He Brannan,
Speaker 1: It's Danielle. M Hi. I am unfortunately having a little
Speaker 1: problem at home. I discovered a mouth in my kitchen.
Speaker 1: So now I'm cleeping outside and I feel like I
Speaker 1: should probably figure out how to sleep inside again, since
Speaker 1: you know that's the thing I'm paying my mortgage on.
Speaker 1: Good luck with everything. Really sorry I couldn't be there.
Speaker 1: I hope you have a great time. No, no, I
Speaker 1: totally forgot. I invited people over for dinner tonight. I
Speaker 1: thought it was next Saturday. The farmer's market was right
Speaker 1: near the office. All right, I gotta find a corner market,
Speaker 1: Godega something. Oh shit, it's Alison Roman. Alison Roman. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is incredible. I am a fan of your books. Oh,
Speaker 1: thank you. That is always nice to here. I used
Speaker 1: to host this show called The Dinner Party Download. Probably
Speaker 1: haven't heard of it. Oh yeah, I actually do know
Speaker 1: about that though, Oh you do. Yeah, okay, well that
Speaker 1: was my show. It's like, why am I not being
Speaker 1: asked to be on the show? But I didn't take
Speaker 1: it personally. It's fine. I mean we were we thought
Speaker 1: you were a little fancy for us because you wrote
Speaker 1: for Bonabati and besides we were based in La Yeah.
Speaker 1: Because it's like you can only record a podcast in
Speaker 1: the city that you record. I get it. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, all right, I still can't believe I ran
Speaker 1: into you. I assumed you moved to Berkeley, where all
Speaker 1: the food celebrities go. No, I mean I live in
Speaker 1: New York, baby, greatest city in the world. So what
Speaker 1: are you doing here? It's, you know, close to dinner time.
Speaker 1: I'm doing some last minute pickups for my own little
Speaker 1: dinner situation. Um. I know this is a weird thing,
Speaker 1: but I just I totally spaced it. I was at
Speaker 1: the office today and I now have to cook dinner
Speaker 1: for six people in the next couple hours, had no
Speaker 1: time to prepare. My kitchen is tiny, and so could
Speaker 1: you give me some guidance like tonight, Yeah, okay, well surprise,
Speaker 1: I think that's great. I actually almost exclusively only believe
Speaker 1: in the last minute dinner party. So you're in luck.
Speaker 1: When all is said and done, you could very happily
Speaker 1: live your life off of shopping at about Degga, and
Speaker 1: I do often. My mother now lives in the Burbs.
Speaker 1: Whenever she visits me, her head turns when she passes
Speaker 1: one of these places right here with like apples, mangoes, watermelons.
Speaker 1: She just can't believe that there's fruit and veg on
Speaker 1: the street available twenty four hours a day. The idea
Speaker 1: that you can walk into this place and you can
Speaker 1: go in there and can get a green juice, You
Speaker 1: can get string cheese. If you need a snack, you
Speaker 1: can get a pack of chicken thighs. You can also
Speaker 1: get tofu and kim chee, and like hot sauce and
Speaker 1: noodles and anchovies and pretty much anything that you would
Speaker 1: need to make your life feel complete. All right, So
Speaker 1: you give me confidence, okay, So any dietary restrictions to
Speaker 1: be aware of. I just don't. I think Brussels sprouts
Speaker 1: are overrated. No, not for you specifically, what thank you
Speaker 1: for that opinion. I'm armed at your guests. Oh no,
Speaker 1: not No, people are pretty pretty much open their omnivores.
Speaker 1: My friends are not afraid of carbohydrates, which I'm proud
Speaker 1: of because I'm older, because like at gen X, like
Speaker 1: lay millennials, like we're not as smart about feel like
Speaker 1: all my friends are hot. Yeah, Europeans who love pasta
Speaker 1: like they're all aging, soft round people. Yeah. Okay, So
Speaker 1: if I'm you, I'm going to do like a simple
Speaker 1: sort of lemony, mediterranean vibe pasta. Oh I like that,
Speaker 1: like a few types of vegetables on the side, Well,
Speaker 1: let's let's do it. Can we talk about celery for
Speaker 1: a quick second, because I feel one of my favorite,
Speaker 1: absolute favorite vegetables. In fact, let's make a celery salad
Speaker 1: for you. Okay, well maybe we should because I feel
Speaker 1: like celery, the big Celery, has tricked us into buying
Speaker 1: huge bunches of celery when I need like one stock
Speaker 1: for my tuna fish. Well, if you're putting only one
Speaker 1: stock in your tuna salad, you're doing it wrong because
Speaker 1: you're Juna salad needs at least four stocks in like
Speaker 1: a can. It should be like equal parts tuna, four
Speaker 1: stocks per cam. Yeah, I'm constantly looking for Larry. I'm
Speaker 1: constantly buy it because I go through it too much.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think the bunches simply aren't large enough.
Speaker 1: All right, well, let's go celery salad. Okay, we've got
Speaker 1: candy laning Greens, which is kind of nice and very
Speaker 1: Euro to me. They're very tart. I like that they're bitter,
Speaker 1: but tars probably close to bitter if there was a
Speaker 1: chart of flavor feelings. Let's agree to disagree. Okay, this
Speaker 1: is bitter. To bring it back real quick. New York.
Speaker 1: You think, oh, what a beautiful place. They have everything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but sometimes because they have everything, you're sort of paralyzed
Speaker 1: by options, right, Like what direction do we go with? Ye?
Speaker 1: Tell me about it. Do we do like a fresh
Speaker 1: tomato e pasta? Do we do like a bitter green
Speaker 1: anchovy pasta? Do we do boiled potatoes with anchovies and
Speaker 1: a soft egg? We do bitter green anchovy pasta? My
Speaker 1: problem here is I have an acidy stomach. Oh and
Speaker 1: tomatoes just kill me. Oh but pasta doesn't, doesn't Okay,
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm getting you a jar of cost to Okay,
Speaker 1: we're just for snacking. You got them with bits. We
Speaker 1: didn't talk about drinks, Okay, I'm a martini guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: should I make them? Yeah? I think you should. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: what I learned over COVID and this could be I
Speaker 1: can't drink tim Martinis anymore. And I used to say,
Speaker 1: like a vodka Martin is an oxymoron. Yeah, I too
Speaker 1: used to turn my nose a bit vodka martinis. But
Speaker 1: in my old age they're just like better for my
Speaker 1: gut and my next day. Yeah, I don't know. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm glad we have this talk. Can I I can't
Speaker 1: use those olives though, can I? Okay? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: there'll be a pitt in there. But assuming you don't
Speaker 1: want to buy two types of olives, maybe do you
Speaker 1: know what? Let's just get Okay, Yeah, let's get them.
Speaker 1: Malcolm Gladwell's paying. So what else do we need? Um?
Speaker 1: Did you want to serve a salad on the side?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna convince me on this celery thing? How
Speaker 1: about we do celery and funnel together to cut a
Speaker 1: little bit of the celery that looks like a lot
Speaker 1: of celery, perfect an cellery. Okay, wait, what are they eating?
Speaker 1: She was just talking about impossibleming it. Oh yeah, I can't.
Speaker 1: I can't eat it. The p proteins. Oh wow you
Speaker 1: I was like doing the dietaris Chritians. You're like nope,
Speaker 1: and then turns out over the courts of the last
Speaker 1: ten minutes. You're like, I can't eat any Here's the
Speaker 1: other thing. I'm a total Homas slot Like, I don't
Speaker 1: make it. I eat any hummas. Yeah, like I'll eat
Speaker 1: any of that stuff. One two, three, four, five, six, seven,
Speaker 1: eight types of hummas here. That's incredible. This is why
Speaker 1: I live here. Now I'm reading new Yeah, okay, we're
Speaker 1: looking at some cheese. We're gonna get you parmesan. This
Speaker 1: bedega also has one two three four five types of parmesan,
Speaker 1: not including the graded stuff, which I wouldn't buy. And
Speaker 1: then dessert, what's your dessert move? Sometimes I do get grapes.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I get a chocolate bar, like a tobleran for
Speaker 1: the table is kind of a baller table tobleron. I
Speaker 1: like that. Let's do it. Um, thank you? What a dream?
Speaker 1: Alison Roman just like grocery shopping for me the world.
Speaker 1: So I hope you get home safe. I feel like
Speaker 1: it's about to sky is about to open up. Wait what,
Speaker 1: I didn't even look at my weather up today New
Speaker 1: York summers. The rain comes in hot and fast. All right,
Speaker 1: thank you very much, take care, welcome to see you later.
Speaker 1: You've got to be kidding me, see all right, weather app?
Speaker 1: Weather app? It doesn't even say rain. All right, someone,
Speaker 1: we need to wait it out? What's going on here? Hey?
Speaker 1: Hey there? Can I just wait here while the rain clears.
Speaker 1: I had to go back to California visit my parents
Speaker 1: because my aunt was visiting from Iran. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: my gosh, she's never been to the US. We absolutely
Speaker 1: have to take her to eat a taco, right, And
Speaker 1: my mom is like, oh, that is a good idea
Speaker 1: about how is taste taco? And I was like, lady,
Speaker 1: what do you mean how is taste taco? You've been
Speaker 1: living here for fucking thirty years. You don't know how
Speaker 1: is taste taco? No? Oh no? And I was so mad.
Speaker 1: I was so mad. I was like, you fucking immigrants
Speaker 1: come to this country. You don't try Mexican food. You're
Speaker 1: just an American that is absolutely TAXI. Hey, you're really
Speaker 1: great up there. Thanks man, Thanks pretty early for a
Speaker 1: comedy show. Huh Yeah, it's weird. They do it at
Speaker 1: all times these days. You're the first person I've seen
Speaker 1: hail a cab here in a couple of years. Frankly,
Speaker 1: most people are on Uber. I like to hail a cab.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things that you can do basically
Speaker 1: only in New York City. So I appreciate that. But
Speaker 1: it's pouring rain. I think it's gonna be a minute
Speaker 1: for you get a cab. Yeah, I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: So I'm guessing that being a comedian and MC is
Speaker 1: not for the faint of heart. Like I admire you
Speaker 1: for going up there. You must be very brave. It's
Speaker 1: like ultimately very self serving, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: If there's one thing I learned during the pandemic is
Speaker 1: that comedians are the least essential workers. You know. I
Speaker 1: have a question, so New York audiences versus other audiences.
Speaker 1: Is there distinguishing traits? Are they different? You know? It's
Speaker 1: interesting because I remember Lewis Black said to me once another,
Speaker 1: you know, just amazing comedian. He said to me after
Speaker 1: the show. You know, Nigine, you speak really fast, and
Speaker 1: you can't speak that fast in other parts of the country.
Speaker 1: When he said that to me, I was like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: Like and I think in some parts of the country,
Speaker 1: I do like slow it down a little bit. I
Speaker 1: slow it down because also in New York City, I
Speaker 1: think everything is just a little bit more fast pace,
Speaker 1: including just the pace of which people like literally speak,
Speaker 1: And that's just a cultural thing over here. And also
Speaker 1: the other thing is notts a megas who cheese you
Speaker 1: get here? But I met my husband here and my
Speaker 1: husband is an actor and he's black, and um I'm
Speaker 1: Iranian and Muslim, and that makes our baby a Blaranian.
Speaker 1: And it's the kind of you know, this is the
Speaker 1: kind of family that could only happen in the United
Speaker 1: States and more specific and it's just like way more
Speaker 1: likely to happen in New York City. And also like
Speaker 1: you know, we have this like this Russian neighbor who
Speaker 1: also speaks Farsi. I mean, what you know, and so
Speaker 1: so like you know, a few times a week, like
Speaker 1: my daughter speaks Farsi with this Russian guy who may
Speaker 1: or may not be an alcoholic. That's a story for
Speaker 1: another time. But like that's the weird kind of thing
Speaker 1: she's just going to be exposed to that. It's like
Speaker 1: it's not weird to her that, like one of our
Speaker 1: neighbors is from Uzbekistan, but then the other one is
Speaker 1: from Turkey, and then another one's from Mexico. Like these
Speaker 1: are just very normal things for you also live in
Speaker 1: the United Nations to care and that is just I
Speaker 1: feel like this little miracle of a family owes a
Speaker 1: debt to New York City. And speaking of miracles in
Speaker 1: New York City, I think this cab open, I think
Speaker 1: that might be yours. Thanks so much for chatting with me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this was unexpectedly a fun conversation. M Hey, Brendan, Um,
Speaker 1: where are you are You still planning to cook tonight?
Speaker 1: People are starting to show up and I'm just feeding
Speaker 1: them wine and this hummus from the fridge. But let
Speaker 1: me know when you're going to arrive. All right, Well,
Speaker 1: at least the rain's clearing up. What are the odds
Speaker 1: of getting another cab? Right? I think we've been get
Speaker 1: city bike. I hope these groceries can fit on a
Speaker 1: city bike. Okay, one bike left. Oh shit, Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: excuse me. This is the last city bike. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm taking it. Yeah, but I really, Um, I have
Speaker 1: a dinner party I have to be at, and I
Speaker 1: swear I know that the city doesn't cut people breaks. No,
Speaker 1: I gotta it's I'm just going home. I'm no, but
Speaker 1: I'm like a fellow human who's asking you to just
Speaker 1: cut me. Appreciate that fellow human. Good luck walking. Wait
Speaker 1: a second, are you dem Taberski? This are walking and
Speaker 1: I'm not walking to Brooklyn. Well, you can at least
Speaker 1: check out my podcast not Lost. Yeah, great, I'll check
Speaker 1: it out. Got it. Oh, here's a city bike then
Speaker 1: filled with bikes. Hey there, did you see that guy
Speaker 1: take the last bike from me? Yes? I did, such
Speaker 1: a jerk. Are there any bikes nearby? Um? Yeah, we
Speaker 1: have a couple of bikes at the station. We can
Speaker 1: check them out and see if they're ridable. It seems
Speaker 1: like whenever I really need a city bike, there's not
Speaker 1: a bike, Like what? What? What is that just my misperception?
Speaker 1: Do I have the wrong time of day that I'm
Speaker 1: always hitting them? Um? That just means there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people using the bikes. I mean, I guess it's
Speaker 1: like New York in general. Right, Okay, Can I like, hey,
Speaker 1: you to get a bike from the back of your truck? Oh? No,
Speaker 1: absolutely not. I can't. I need to get to Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Are are you drying? Are you riding there? Can I
Speaker 1: get a ride with you? Sure? Why not? You would
Speaker 1: do that for me? Don't tell anyone, I won't. Your
Speaker 1: boss will never know this happened, believe me. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much. All right, So are your bike mechanics just
Speaker 1: like working full on all the time, depending on the season. Yes,
Speaker 1: right now we have at our depots we have twenty
Speaker 1: four operations. Really Pixen bikesix bikes. That's wild. Same thing
Speaker 1: with moving the bikes were twenty four, twenty four hour operations. Well,
Speaker 1: and now I feel bad because I often, you know,
Speaker 1: I love city bike, I love the exercise. I'm a
Speaker 1: pretty much like a like a eight to seven PM
Speaker 1: can so I need a bike then in the morning
Speaker 1: and then at seven And I feel like often, you know,
Speaker 1: the bikes are gone because so many people use them,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I need to have a different
Speaker 1: life style in order to get more bikes, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Well, that's part of what we do,
Speaker 1: you know, balancing the system based off of trends. That
Speaker 1: can be challenging at times, but we definitely work on those.
Speaker 1: How often do you ride? I used to ride a
Speaker 1: lot more, but I work from home now a lot,
Speaker 1: so I ride less. See. Look, there's a city bike
Speaker 1: driver drivers. That's another thing. You gotta always watch out
Speaker 1: for the bicyclists because they're crazy. They're people people just
Speaker 1: popping in and outs or even in between the vehicles.
Speaker 1: So I got to always make sure that you're on
Speaker 1: the alert. They can't kill the golden goose, though, because
Speaker 1: this is the thing delivering the bikes, right absolutely, Maybe
Speaker 1: City Bike could do what you do to make extra money.
Speaker 1: They could make your actual delivery vans like this one,
Speaker 1: you know, ubers or cabs. For something to think about.
Speaker 1: I'm just you know, just try I'm thinking this is
Speaker 1: this could be like the city Bike Deluxe service. There
Speaker 1: could be a special button on your app that you press.
Speaker 1: Have you really need this city Bike your way exactly,
Speaker 1: City Bikes Chauffeur City Bike Gags. I feel thank you
Speaker 1: so much for giving me this ride. Okay, well, we
Speaker 1: got to do a better job at we balancing the system.
Speaker 1: We'll have a bike for you next. All right, thank
Speaker 1: you very much. But now, hey, Brendan, Christy, here, have
Speaker 1: you decided where you're going to record your last episode?
Speaker 1: The clock is ticking. Yeah, I'm aware of that. Oh hey, Christy,
Speaker 1: currently thinking either Reno or Atlanta. We'll confirm tomorrow. Oh hey,
Speaker 1: you guys to show up? Do you believe it? Seems
Speaker 1: like you guys gotta started without me. Oh yeah, you're
Speaker 1: way behind. You better start cooking because I think we're drama.
Speaker 1: I could use a drink. As the lead producer on
Speaker 1: this this season finale of season one of Not Lost
Speaker 1: was Bart Covid Won't Stop Me Warshaw, who also sound
Speaker 1: designed and mixed the episode. Who so happy to be
Speaker 1: sharing with you guys for coming. Sorry was late. The
Speaker 1: show was also produced and written by me Brendan. I
Speaker 1: can't get Covid until I'm done with this show. France
Speaker 1: has Newnham. Where were you? I was at the office,
Speaker 1: So how is your show? I mean, I still haven't
Speaker 1: figured out where my last episode is going to be.
Speaker 1: You should just junior year. That's not bad idea. Our
Speaker 1: associate producer was Amy Gaines with additional production assistance from
Speaker 1: Jacob Smith and aitorial guidance provided by Julia Barton's Mustard Greens.
Speaker 1: I wanted to do like a bitter pasta thing, and
Speaker 1: then there's a fennel and celery salad. I know some
Speaker 1: people don't like celery, but I love really interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm a big Celery fan myself. I feel like there's
Speaker 1: not enough Celery in a Celery bunch. Not Lost is
Speaker 1: a co production of Push Can Industries, Topic Studios and
Speaker 1: iHeartMedia just developed a Topic Studios. The show's executive producers
Speaker 1: Army Christy Gressman, Maria Zuckerman, Lisa ling Gang, and lat Lade.
Speaker 1: Our theme song was created by Alexis Georgiopolis aka Art.
Speaker 1: He's done our new album coming out on Mexican Summer
Speaker 1: called New Pleasures. Who doesn't want those? Check it out?
Speaker 1: They give me cole sours and Walna Zach actively made
Speaker 1: my mouth to one to five. I will stab you
Speaker 1: with my party. Our artwork is by Topic Studios and
Speaker 1: thanks to all the New Yorkers who I ran into
Speaker 1: last Saturday, including Tony Haddad from Clean Green Cleaners, Will
Speaker 1: from Freeway Entertainment, Emma Hendrickson, Malcolm Gladwell, Sadie Stein looked
Speaker 1: for her byline Alison Roman, whose video series entitled Home
Speaker 1: Movies is worth your time attention, even if she's a
Speaker 1: show for the Celery industrial Complex. Also thanks to comedian
Speaker 1: Nagheen Frasad and Shimika from City Bike promised not to
Speaker 1: tell your boss about the ride and the special Thank
Speaker 1: you to David Glover at Pushkin and Big Bus Tours,
Speaker 1: and to dinner partiers Madeline Leon Coleman, Bernadette Napoleon, Robin Hendrickson,
Speaker 1: Amy Martin and a little visiting puppy named Sequoia. And
Speaker 1: since this is our final episode of this season, I
Speaker 1: have more people than usual to thank. First, I'd like
Speaker 1: to rethank Latom Malaud, who not only executive produced the
Speaker 1: series but greenlittit a topic. Thank you for having faith
Speaker 1: in this idea and producers. Sound designer Crystal Duke Came
Speaker 1: who helped build the pilot episode, and of course my
Speaker 1: friend Daniel Henderson. Her memoir The Ugly Cry is out
Speaker 1: in paperback now. You should really check it out. Also,
Speaker 1: the producer Tali Abacasis, who sent the humor and calm
Speaker 1: prevailed during some challenging circumstances, and to the great Jackson
Speaker 1: Musker who helped me map out the itinerary for the
Speaker 1: first handful of episodes. He wrote the award winning Audible
Speaker 1: original called The Sea in the Sky contains astronauts, humor
Speaker 1: and pathos. And thank you to Hilu Mergia, whose song
Speaker 1: Wetti harar guzzo pig I'm pronouncing that right has been
Speaker 1: our credit soundtrack. You're hearing it now. I first met
Speaker 1: Hilu at a concert years ago and Marfa, Texas. He
Speaker 1: is such a gentleman and his music is fantastic. You
Speaker 1: can't go wrong. Check him out wherever you listen to music.
Speaker 1: Thanks to Jenny Bedusa, Ethan Light, Michelle Lands, Alex Giga
Speaker 1: from Topic Studios, and a big special thanks to everyone
Speaker 1: at my home Pushkin. So many people champion the show
Speaker 1: and helped it along the way, Mia LaBelle, Heather Faine,
Speaker 1: Carrie Brodie, Carli Migliordi, Edith Russelo, David Glover, Danielle Lakhan,
Speaker 1: Christina Sullivan, Jason Gambrell. Were sang all their names in
Speaker 1: a sing songy way, but each one of them made
Speaker 1: a specific contribution. The great marketing team Eric Sandler, Maggie Taylor,
Speaker 1: Morgan Ratner, Nicole Morano, Isabella Navarrez, Jordan McMillan, Sean Carney,
Speaker 1: and Mary Beth Smith. Royston deserve, Maya Kanig, Justine Lange,
Speaker 1: and a special special thanks to John Snars who helped
Speaker 1: bring the show over to Pushkin, and to our fearless
Speaker 1: leader Jacob Weisberg, who was very supportive of this project.
Speaker 1: How could I have any more people to thank? I
Speaker 1: don't know, but I do. I need to give a
Speaker 1: special thanks to my colleagues at Pushkin Audio Books who
Speaker 1: made the space for me to work on this project.
Speaker 1: Jasmine Faustino, Kerry Colin and Nick White, Thank you. And last,
Speaker 1: but not least, thanks to you for listening. This is
Speaker 1: not your average travel show and I'm thrilled that A
Speaker 1: connected with so many listeners. Please keep spreading the word
Speaker 1: head to Apple Podcasts, rate review it. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1: You can also send your audio postcards to not Lost
Speaker 1: at Pushkin dot fm, who've received a couple already and
Speaker 1: they've been really tough watching. You can learn more about
Speaker 1: Topic Studios at topic studios dot com. To find more
Speaker 1: Pushkin podcast listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever
Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts. I'm Brendan France has Newnham. I'll
Speaker 1: be back in a few months. I'm actually going to
Speaker 1: go on a real vacation. I'm not even gonna bring
Speaker 1: my recording device. I may or may not crash your
Speaker 1: dinner party. But I'll be back in a few months
Speaker 1: with some chat versions of Not Lost. More about that later.
Speaker 1: Until then, the pleasure has been mine.