1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: All right, and welcome into Fantasy Pros that live on Twitch. 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: The NFL season is getting closer and closer, so of 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: course we've got another Fantasy football Q and a coming 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: your way right here on twitch dot tv slash Fantasy Pros. 5 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: That's where you can fall us for all the live 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: interactive content Monday through Friday. I'm your host, Seth Woolcock 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: and NFL training Camp and preseason continues to roll on 8 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: and break it all down from a fantasy perspective and 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: answer your questions. Is Derek Brown? 10 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 2: De bro? 11 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: How are you today, my friend? As we are yet 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: one day closer to it all getting going here, Bro, the. 13 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: Voice is doing a little bit better or a little 14 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,560 Speaker 2: bit worse depending on the minute. But no, man, I'm 15 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 2: excited we saw the James Cook contract get announced. Of course, 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 2: I love it when the NFL news breaks right when 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: I'm trying to get my kids ready and out the 18 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,960 Speaker 2: door and stuff. So like I'm trying to like get 19 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: notes updated, I'm yelling at the kids to put shoes 20 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: on and stuff. And it was the first day schools. Yeah, no, 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: at its own timetable, Baby NFL runs at its own timetable. 22 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: First day of school on a Wednesday. 23 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, that's how they always do it in Texas. Man. 24 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 2: It's like a full day on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and 25 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: then they start the next week. And I'm like, so 26 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,119 Speaker 2: if you just start a Monday, dude, we're getting something 27 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:15,200 Speaker 2: doing here. Man. 28 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, back in my day we used to 29 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: go five days a week. But you know, maybe maybe 30 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: that was too long ago. But no, glad to hear 31 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: the kids are back in school. That means your full 32 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: steam ahead on the season. So excited to get inside 33 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: all those thoughts, all the changing opinions you've had over 34 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: the past forty hours or so since you've been back 35 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,520 Speaker 1: on the ground. And go ahead, guys, drop your questions below. 36 00:01:36,560 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: We'll be sure to get to them. And after the program, 37 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,839 Speaker 1: make sure you check out the Fancy Pros YouTube channel 38 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: and the podcast fed. Some really fun episodes are out 39 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: there right now, some short form and content as well. 40 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: You should be checking out. And looks like we already 41 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: have some friends checking in with us today podcast. 42 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: By the way, seth top ten in sports podcast, All 43 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: Sports podcast, Baby, I checked it this morning. 44 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: We are let's go, baby, Let's go appreciate that that's awesome. 45 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: That's because of everyone hanging out with us. Yes, socially 46 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: every time, like thought to miss Prime and Nick Steeler 47 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,839 Speaker 1: also saying, thanks guys, I've had a rubbish day until now. Dude. 48 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: Look that's what's all about. Man, I you know I've 49 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: had those bad days. You get in with your favorite podcast, 50 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: your favorite creators, and you to hang out with them, 51 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: and it makes it a lot better. 52 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: So nicks Prime is an elite screen names. 53 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: It is. 54 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 2: Elite. 55 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent there, Nick, thanks so much for 56 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: hanging out with us. Man, Glad your day is getting 57 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: a little bit better. And Mike saying I can top 58 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: that my kids had their first day on a frond 59 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: on a Friday. What's going on? Well, I'm to get 60 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 1: into te ut least. 61 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: You know your kids only had to do the one 62 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: and then at the weekend and stuff. So there's that. 63 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: So jeez, jeez, God bless you, God bless you mayor 64 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: uh and Thoughtimus also asking thoughts on Tory Horton in Dynasty, Derek, 65 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: I know he was someone. I think you like the 66 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,800 Speaker 1: tape a little bit, Tory Horton, how do you feel 67 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: with the landing spot? Of course, JSN in the in 68 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: action out there, and of course Cooper Cup hanging out 69 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: as well. So do you think there is room for 70 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: Horton to make a splash with Sam Darnold at quarterback 71 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: or do you think a change would have to come 72 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: for that to happen. 73 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: No, I mean right now, I think NBS has actually 74 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: been working with the second team. Horton's getting reps at 75 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 2: the first team, and he's he's flashing in camp. Man, 76 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: He's he's a guy. Yeah. We talked about on the 77 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 2: NFL Draft show for Fantasy Pros, and he popped in 78 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 2: a number of ways. Man, like the twenty twenty four 79 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 2: injury shortened season, but the least four or five yards 80 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: per route run. You also go further back in his 81 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 2: collegiate career, he was twenty second in yards per route 82 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: run in twenty twenty two. Like I'm just I'm obviously 83 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: reading all of this stuff off of my roocky wide 84 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 2: receiver primer. I liked him a lot, man. My com 85 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 2: for him coming out because he has that X that 86 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: X clasher kind of style, can stretch the field. He's 87 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: a contortionist in the air. My com for him coming 88 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: out was Marvin Jones dude. So like I like Horton 89 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 2: a lot, and I mean him or Elijah Roya. We 90 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: are one Cooper Cup injury away from one of those 91 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 2: guys fighting, I mean both of them fighting for number 92 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: two in the target pecking order for Seattle. And it's 93 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: none like Cupp has been the picture of health and 94 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 2: I'm not forecasting injuries, but at this point in his career, 95 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 2: I mean we can kind of say, like that's part 96 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,040 Speaker 2: of what's been the issue the last few years for Cup. 97 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, I completely agree with you, man. And I first 98 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: laid eyes on Tory Horton back in the Rocky Mountain Showdown. 99 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: I believe it was two years ago at this point, 100 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: Game Day was there and I was like, man, who 101 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: is this guy? Like he was the one guy on 102 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: Colorado State that I was kind of impressed with. So 103 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: I let you as a prospect the landing spot I'm 104 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: okay with. I think it will get better. I don't 105 00:04:45,080 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a year one pop or anything 106 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: for him, but I think he's the guy you kind 107 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: of sit on Dynasty. If you have a taxi squad, 108 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: you throw him in there. Where would you be taking 109 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: right now? In rookie draftsick right now ECR for Dynasty rookies, 110 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: he's thirty six overall? Does that sound about late third, 111 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: early fourth round? 112 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 2: Good? 113 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: As far as super flex goes. 114 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: I've got Tory Horton, so I'm looking at where I 115 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:13,119 Speaker 2: had him. Yeah, I mean he would be so super 116 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: flex ranks he would be. Yeah, I've got him at 117 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: fifty third overall, but like some of that I probably need. 118 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 2: Shouldn't like move him up some I'd say somewhere like anywhere, 119 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 2: because dude, the thing about it is like, once you 120 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 2: get into the late third round, it's all bets are off. Dude, 121 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: Like that's the point where you're just taking your guys. 122 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 2: So at any point, like you could put Tory Horton 123 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 2: right there in that like Isaac Tesla, Pat Bryan Elick 124 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 2: Aman or like that kind of phylum, and I don't 125 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: think it's wrong. And that's kind of like so the 126 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 2: conversation for Horton starts like in the thirties, so like 127 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: you know, late like mid third, late third totally. 128 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, awesome, awesome, love that Bam Bam brandtson hanging 129 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: out as saying go let's go go birds man, uh 130 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: and uh We also have Bam Bam saying breakfast, Sando 131 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:10,119 Speaker 1: of the day boys, pork Roll, Egg Cooper Sharp, Kai's 132 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 1: are Roll, also some tasty cakes candy cakes to make 133 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: it through the morning meeting. 134 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 2: Are you living living living his best life here? I 135 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 2: love it? Yeah? 136 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: Are you pork roll guy, Derek? Is that something you 137 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: eat before? Okay? 138 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 2: Yes, totally down with that. 139 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: I haven't had a ton I love. 140 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: I love breakfast sandwiches man breakfast like some with some 141 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 2: like what that? Or like on a bagel? Yes? Yes, yes, 142 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 2: all day? 143 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: Also all day listen to this man. So when I 144 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: first met my fiance, she like outlawed every time I 145 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: would eat a English muffin, she would like just roll 146 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: her eyes at me, and I was like what, And 147 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: She's like that's so dry, that's so dry, and like wrong. 148 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: She is not wrong, but her dad would eat one 149 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: every single day when she would grow up, and she 150 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: would never eat it. And now, like all of a sudden, 151 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 1: like two months ago, she just started like loving these 152 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: and like she's all about the English muffin life, and 153 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm just like, why am I getting shamed though, for 154 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: like eight years of a relationship for eating anything on 155 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,159 Speaker 1: an you need a change. 156 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: No, you know what that means. It's probably that that however, 157 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: her parents cooked it because I dealt with this growing up, 158 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: like my parents cook, couldn't cook anything like it was horrible, 159 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: So like I didn't know what I like. I hated 160 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: steak for the longest time because my mom would butcher it. 161 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: It was like, well done, You're like, the only flavor 162 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 2: you're getting out of the steak that was cooked in 163 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 2: my house growing up was like you were dipping it 164 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: in something else. Sure, Like I grew up loving a 165 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: one and yes I was a ketch up with steak 166 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 2: guy because my mom would butcher the steaks. It was horrible. Yeah, 167 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 2: you know, I mean there could be a similar situation 168 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 2: as that, Like I will say that the thing to 169 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: set it off, like English mutton muffins. You need something 170 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: as a buffer there, whether that's something like what a 171 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 2: lot of times it's cheese or something like that to 172 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: kind of counteract the dryness, or if like you know, 173 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: maybe your dad was like an habitual like he liked 174 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 2: the crunch and he would leave it in the toaster 175 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 2: for too long or something true true, And I will say, 176 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: shout out to your fiance she is an absolutely wonderful human. 177 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 2: Definitely your better half getting into me as well. 178 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: Lam Yes, yeah yeah. Field Yates told me once on 179 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: a program that there are reachers and there are settlers 180 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: in life. I'm definitely a reach. 181 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: You out kicked the coverage. Definitely outkicked you. Definitely out 182 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 2: kicked no doubt. 183 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: Shout out to absolutely shout out Katie. We appreciate you. 184 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: Nick asking in the chat, if you draft a top 185 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: three tight end, do you ever draft a second or 186 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: just wait for waivers? What do you think, derekr Are 187 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: you using a roster slot on an extra tee or no? 188 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 2: Nope, there's no point. Like this kind of goes back 189 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 2: to the best Ball motto. Draft like you're right, and 190 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: if you're draft them like you're right. Like it now, 191 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 2: if you wanted to take a shot on a guy 192 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 2: like at the very end of like last round, or 193 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 2: somebody like an Elijah Royo, like yeah, sure, I'm fine 194 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 2: with that, But like that's really comes down to like 195 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,439 Speaker 2: leagues where it's either a fourteen team or or a 196 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,160 Speaker 2: sixteen team or so like deeper leagues, that's where I 197 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: think it's more applicable. Or teams were you've got a 198 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: deeper bench, so like you're rolling six maybe seven deep 199 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,719 Speaker 2: or something like that. Maybe there's some shallower formats, so 200 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 2: really it has to be a deep bench because dude, again, 201 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 2: this comes down to like, if you're drafting like you're right, 202 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 2: if you're spinning up for the elite tight end, you 203 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 2: are being that premium for them to be a difference 204 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 2: maker at a onesie position. And if that doesn't happen, 205 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 2: you were already behind the ball anyway. So why are 206 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 2: you like to me the later rounds? Or you take 207 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 2: shots on rookies and wide receivers and running backs, whether 208 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: it's RB two's on depth charts or wide receivers that 209 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: we think like Tory Horton that could be like a 210 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: guy where maybe they evolve into a weekly flex spot. 211 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: So no, I mean, I'm if I'm paying up for 212 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: a tight end in almost every single format outside of 213 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 2: what I talked about deep benches or deep leagues. No, 214 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 2: I'm not drafting another tight end late Like you're basically 215 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 2: you're hedging and it's like, what at what point? Because 216 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,719 Speaker 2: you already made the bet to stand with it. 217 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. The only time I have dab 218 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: into getting another tight end. When I do draft the 219 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: top three guy is like tight end premium, right, that's 220 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: really the only thing. 221 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean but then you're then you're just 222 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: saying that likes we're gonna equal like wide receiver three 223 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 2: times right format. 224 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. Yeah, Like I think I took a George 225 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: Kittle just because he was falling too far. And then 226 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: I think I grabbed the Tyler Warren late because it 227 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: was the keeper League. I'm like, I might keep Tyler 228 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: Warren next year. So love that question though, Nick, Thanks 229 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: for hanging out with us so much today. Man, hope 230 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: your day continues to improve. 231 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: Brother. 232 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: Uh And then we got another question here from our 233 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: guy M three r C K three D. 234 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 2: So how do you pronounce that? I guess we're going 235 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 2: marked like these are back to the back dude. 236 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 1: The backwards guys, I just gotta tell you the backwards ease. 237 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: They really get me. Sometimes I think I'm dyslexic when 238 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: I read him because it just doesn't go down. 239 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 2: I mean, both both can be true, seth true. 240 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 1: I just joined a twelve team half hepr league one 241 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: quarterback two running back two wide receiver two running back 242 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: slash to a wide receiver, tight end, flex, one tight end, 243 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: one kicker, once defense slash special team, and he got 244 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,360 Speaker 1: a couple of bench spots as well. This is a 245 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: weird format for me. What strategy should I have going 246 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: into this? I'm used to a ten team league and 247 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,439 Speaker 1: best ball is premium tight end as important as in 248 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: ten team leagues? Should I prioritize either a tight end 249 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: or a quarterback in the first three or four rounds 250 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: with this many flex spots? Is running back a little 251 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: more important than wide receiver? So convoluted question from a 252 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 1: guy Merke, how do you help him out here? Derek? 253 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 2: I mean, and so going from a ten to a 254 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: twelve teamer, being strong at the onesie positions isn't as imperative. 255 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that it's not still viable if you 256 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: and we've talked about this on a number of shows. 257 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: The ability to pay up for both in a premium 258 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 2: quarterback and a premium tight end a twelve teamer is 259 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 2: you're going to sacrifice somewhere, and if you're doing both 260 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: of those things, you're sacrificing a running back and wide 261 00:11:56,640 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: receiver or both, And so I'm not likely to do it. 262 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 2: I will say I'm more likely I'm much more into 263 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: paying up for premium tight end this year, so I 264 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: would prioritize premium tight end if you're going to pay 265 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 2: up for one of those positions, if not specifically a 266 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,000 Speaker 2: tight end, it would be. And again we've talked about this, 267 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: like I have. The latest article that came out for 268 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: me this week was the six tight ends that I'm 269 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: drafting all year basically, and so if it's not one 270 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 2: of the three premium guys, it's Mark Andrews, Evan Ingram 271 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 2: or Tucker Craft or the guys that I really really 272 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 2: want and maybe a sprinkling go some Dallas Goddard here 273 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 2: and there. So my tight end pool this year is very, 274 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 2: very condensed if you don't go with the premium tight end. 275 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 2: But outside of this, man, I mean this, I don't 276 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 2: see this as like really that crazy. I mean, you 277 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: do get the flexibility of like those two flex spots 278 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: being like basically any position, so it's not even wide 279 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,439 Speaker 2: receiver tight end or really I mean, honestly do like 280 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 2: in this type of draft, I'm probably paying up for 281 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: tight end and then I'm just going BPA so like 282 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 2: and I'm probably taking like a quarterback in the mid 283 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 2: later rounds, like I'm probably living in that that justin 284 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:06,600 Speaker 2: Fields Brock Purty, Jake Ma, Drake May, JJ McCarthy type 285 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: of like column of quarterbacks and combine with that. And 286 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: so with wide receiver and running back, it's you know, 287 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 2: take take BPA man like because again, like if you're 288 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 2: going more running back, like more wide receiver heavy, that's 289 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 2: totally fine because you can either make trades or you 290 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: can insulate the position with a lot of RB. Two 291 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 2: is late. You're just really saying look or you go 292 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 2: hero RB. So really this is all stay like the 293 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: things that we consistently preach SETH is staying liquid and 294 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 2: read the room. And if you're doing this and you've 295 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: already sent leagues obviously using draft Intel and stuff and 296 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 2: utilizing that type of cheat code, now again draft intel, 297 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 2: you need two years of league data or like we understand, 298 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 2: so this is a brand new league that's really not 299 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 2: gonna like that's not gonna fly. Obviously, this is all 300 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 2: goes back to you should be running a ton of mocks, 301 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 2: so you are getting the the lowdown of what who's 302 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 2: going to be there possible picks. So at least like 303 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 2: as you're going through this, you could set the queue 304 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: for like two to three players and stuff and at 305 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 2: least know kind of what neighborhood you're living and building 306 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 2: a lot of different squads. 307 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm completely there with you, man, and like this 308 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: is actually the exact format other than it's full PPR 309 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: that I play in my home league every year, and 310 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: like for me, for me, I'm just strictly going off 311 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: my tiers for those first couple of rounds. Like Derek said, 312 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: if you want to grab an elite quarterback or an 313 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: elite tight end, don't do both. Get one of them 314 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: live in that that deeper range for the rest of it. 315 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: And uh, for the most part, man, Like I'm just 316 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: pounding wide receiver and running back those you know, first 317 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: eight to nine rounds or so, like before I even 318 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 1: think about going after another onesie position and just loading 319 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: up there, dude. So good luck here, Merked, And we 320 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 1: did get confirmation it is Merked in the chat, So 321 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 1: I appreciate that, brother, things got there. 322 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 2: Backward threes threes, that's say. I told you, man, I'm 323 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: not that far removed from my gamer days. 324 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: Also saying cream cheese on in in muffin top tier. Yeah, 325 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: I've done it on a bagel, I've never done it 326 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: on English muffin action. 327 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 2: And I will say I'll take that to another level. 328 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 2: If you can find like like jalapeno cream cheese like 329 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 2: the that is another level, man, another level. 330 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: That would be great. That'd be great. Last night, you know, 331 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: just getting back from the expo earlier this week, we 332 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: like could We didn't think about dinner until like seven 333 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,160 Speaker 1: o'clock last night. I was like, you know, you know, 334 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: it sounds good, and we had everything to make buffalo 335 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: chicken dip. So we just like just through everything in 336 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: the car. 337 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: You were going the Brinner route, which is exactly what 338 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 2: I did on Monday when I got back. Yeah, yeah, expo. 339 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: So we were like, I popped up in the fridge. 340 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: I was like, dude, we got nothing. Yeah, never go 341 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 2: wrong with brinner, baby, No. No. 342 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: That that is always like the fail safe, right because 343 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: you usually have eggs, usually can scrape some bread products, 344 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: got eggs. 345 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 2: Usually you can find some other type of meat, you 346 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:56,119 Speaker 2: know what I mean. You can toss together some omelets 347 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 2: if you got the bagels, which we always had bagels 348 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 2: in the house and stuff, so it's always. 349 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: Dude, Mason what's up, Mason. Good to see you today again. 350 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: Man is saying started off with Justin Jefferson McBride in 351 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 1: my first two rounds of Best Ball. Dat good you 352 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: did that as well? 353 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's good. Man definitely digging it is Trey McBride. 354 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: You think, like, if he doesn't positively regress in touchdowns, 355 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: are you still gonna be happy with this season? You think, Derek? 356 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I mean why why not? I mean, like 357 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 2: tell me this, like, were you disappointed? Did you roster 358 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 2: him in any leagues last year? 359 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: I actually had him The year before I had him, 360 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: I picked him off a ton of waivers, I drafted 361 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: him in a couple of dynasty leagues. I am stashed. 362 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: I actually really didn't ride with him last year. I 363 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: was way too invested in Harrison Junior unfortunately. 364 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 2: I mean, I'll put it this way, because cross positionally 365 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: last year, and this is where I want to highlight 366 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: to people, like, if you're Tray McBride, so last year, 367 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: even without the touchdowns, he performed as just looking at 368 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 2: cross positional value, Trey McBride would have been the wide 369 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,360 Speaker 2: receiver seventy last year in fantasy game, and he would 370 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 2: have been the RB seventeen. So either way, if you 371 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: stack this up and this is dude with this dude 372 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 2: scoring no touchdowns, if he scores touchdowns this year, and 373 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 2: this is what I keep going back to, seth, if 374 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 2: he scores touchdowns and you were getting him in the 375 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 2: third round in some spots, dude, this is where we like, 376 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 2: again we will flip over the cards. If he scores 377 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: touchdowns and produces like this again this year, he could 378 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 2: be a guy where we're like, we should have been 379 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 2: drafting him round one. And that's why I've been so 380 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,200 Speaker 2: high on him and I continue to be so high 381 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: because again RB seventeen, Wide Receiver seventeen comparatively, the value 382 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: is still there if you're drafting him at the late 383 00:17:42,920 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 2: second because he's going to go in that wide receiver 384 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 2: two RB two type of range. No. 385 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, very very true. The Brophy first time chatter, 386 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: thanks hanging out with us to stay here on twitch 387 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 1: dot tv slash Fantasy Brosvan saying, good morning lads. What 388 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: draft spot do ideally want in a twelve man. 389 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: After one morning? 390 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 1: Are home league redraft snake? So Derek, good morning to you, 391 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: even though it is good good. 392 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: Morning lands, I want to know where Brophy's from. I 393 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 2: need the shout out of, like give me the pen, 394 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 2: what continent where we calling in from? I love this. 395 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. What do you think though, Derek? 396 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 2: For me, Yeah, I like pick. 397 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: I like the ten spot. I'd like the ten spot. 398 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: That's my first spot because like I can. 399 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 2: Get from eight to twelve, anywhere from eight to twelve 400 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 2: because I want access. And we've talked about this again, 401 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 2: harping on this, but it's still freaking true, dude. Is 402 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: that right there around the turn there's so many guys 403 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 2: that are just sitting right there that have first round 404 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: type of profiles and outlooks to where it's like, pick 405 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,239 Speaker 2: your flavor of those two. Like you could build an 406 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 2: RB RB start or an a wide receiver wide receiver start, 407 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 2: or split the difference and go balance build anyway you 408 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 2: go there. Really, at the turn, there's not a lot 409 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 2: of guys that I think you're really going to go 410 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 2: wrong with. I mean, again, like the four pack of 411 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 2: players that I keep harping on. Now CMC's not in 412 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 2: this anymore, but gent Brian Thomas Junior, CM see if 413 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 2: he still falls there, Like if you're at the eighth spot, 414 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: I think it's still possible. But Drake London do like 415 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,639 Speaker 2: all these guys are sitting right there, take two of 416 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: them and enjoy and no, just to point this out, 417 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 2: I'm not worried about Ascion Gent getting minus one rushing 418 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 2: yards in his first NFL action. I do not care 419 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 2: about that at all at all. 420 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,680 Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I'm so upset because in 421 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 1: my home league, like I usually do get like eleven 422 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: or twelve, and sometimes I don't like being on the turn. 423 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: But now I finally got a shourm pick and no 424 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: one will trade at no one will trade me with it. 425 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: We have that golf scramble ahead of time, hoping to 426 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: get people a little bit loose up and maybe I can, 427 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: Hey you want the four slot, I'll take you people 428 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: sauced up on the golf course to be like, hey, 429 00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: you want to want to move the rounds a little bit? 430 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: Another what another adult beverage change your mind? 431 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 1: Then that's what I did a couple of years ago too. 432 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: I was able to move move up a spot and 433 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: jump someon for Justin Jefferson. 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You can connect your Amazon Prime 448 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: account and do that for free, but you do have 449 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: to continue to re up those each and every month. 450 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: That is the one thing that that Twitch wants to 451 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: make sure that you're doing. So appreciate y'all hanging out 452 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: with us. Let's continue on here in the chat. Man. Wow, 453 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 1: there are way too many go birds, I mean, go birds. 454 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,760 Speaker 1: Let's go birds. It was like over the weekend every 455 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: jersey I saw I felt like was absolutely a dude. 456 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 2: There was so many Eagles fans, and I don't know 457 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 2: if it's just because they're the loudest fan base, So like, yeah, 458 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: when Eagles fans are around there, but shout out to 459 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 2: e Rock, shout out to k Lest. Yeah, people that 460 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 2: are in leagues that are in our discord that are 461 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 2: freaking fantastic, shout out to Bam Bam. That's always in 462 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 2: the chat, there's k Les. It's like he said his 463 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 2: name and he pops up. I love it, dude, I 464 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 2: love it. 465 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 466 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: I was talking and of course Mike may or whatever, 467 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 2: like nobody cares fandom. 468 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 1: I was talking to ka Lest right before I left 469 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: Jose's on Sunday night and was, you know, telling hey, 470 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: is you're to get into college football, and he was 471 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: actually then took that question and was kind of talking 472 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: about with Fits and Bogs yesterday on the discord, so 473 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: kind of came full service. 474 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 2: So I saw Klest on the way out Monday morning, 475 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: and I was like I poured myself like into clothes, 476 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 2: like I was just like, I'm so tired. I saw 477 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 2: him in the lobby and I was like I had 478 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: no voice up. I was like bye bye, see your 479 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: next chair. It was so bad. 480 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: Mike saying, playing potato chips with cream Cheese's not wrong, 481 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: Mayor's not. 482 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: Wrong about that? Not wrong? 483 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, yeah we're getting fancy now. 484 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: Uh and he's even better Mayor try. 485 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 1: Last night. So I always do that when he's left 486 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: the fan. 487 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: The real ones know, the real ones know. 488 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: Seth Nick in the chat saying, full English breakfast, a 489 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 1: breakfast for kings. Well, what is a full English breakfast? Like, 490 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: I am, I look this up. Yeah, maybe let us 491 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: know in the chat, Nick, like, what is in your 492 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: mind a full English breakfast? Like? I think there's probably like, 493 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,119 Speaker 1: all right, is there blood putting in there? Blood putting 494 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: in there? I love blood pudding. 495 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: It typically includes fried eggs, bacon, sausages, baked beans, grilled tomatoes, mushrooms, oh, 496 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,480 Speaker 2: black black pudding, whatever the heck that. 497 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: Is putting blood pudding? 498 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, okay, so yes, and then often a 499 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: side of fried bread or with something like tea or 500 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 2: coffee to drink. So, I mean, dude, outside of the 501 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 2: the death pudding, I'm totally with it. 502 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: Have you ever had the pudding? 503 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: Though I have not, It just sounds it sounds interesting, 504 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 2: but dude, probably, I mean dude, I'm from Louisiana. I 505 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 2: eat all kinds. I've eaten all kinds of stuff, and 506 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 2: a lot of people will be like really, so I'd 507 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 2: probably be down for it. 508 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: It's like almost some I don't know what black pudding 509 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: is by no, blood pudding is almost. 510 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: Like it's the same thing. 511 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: I think, Okay, it's like a sausage choked in like 512 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,000 Speaker 1: the pig blood or something. But okay, but what it's yes, 513 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: really really good though. I have an Irish lad who's 514 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: my buddy, and every time i'd go visit him, you. 515 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: Know, Iris, I live in there. 516 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: All right. Moving forward here through some more comments. Who 517 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 1: is the RB to have for the Browns this year? So, Derek, 518 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: we still have quit Sean Judkins not signed. I'm not 519 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: gonna like my answer here, Well, who do you think? 520 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: Because Jerome Ford's getting steamed up ECR right now and 521 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: I've kind of been on this Dylan Samson train and 522 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 1: I didn't love him as a prospect, but I think, 523 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: you know, the brown signified to me with the drafting 524 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: of Judkins in the second Samson in the fourth, that hey, 525 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: maybe Jerome's Ford isn't all we thought he would be, 526 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: especially after last year seeing hundred two hundred carries once again. 527 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, my answer is no one. I don't want exposure 528 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: to this backfield. Dude, I'll be honest with. 529 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: You, Like you don't really want exposure to the offense 530 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 1: as a whole, do you not? 531 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 2: Really? I mean, dude, the only guy that I'm taking 532 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: at cost right now, Like I'm not in on Jerry Judy, 533 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,560 Speaker 2: I am all the way out on Cedric Tillman, David 534 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 2: and Joku. Fine, but like there's so many other tight 535 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 2: ends and I think that, like for him to reproduce 536 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: as a top five tight end is asking too much 537 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,239 Speaker 2: in the context of that offense. So honestly, the only 538 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 2: guy I'm taking out of that passing attack, to be 539 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 2: honest that cost is Deontay Johnson only because I feel 540 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: like the cost for him is wrong because if he 541 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 2: had stayed on the Carolina Panthers, where we be drafting 542 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: him right now. So but with this backfield, getting back 543 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,959 Speaker 2: to these running backs, man, it's like if we were 544 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 2: to say, okay, we're week seven, week eight, and assuming 545 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: Judkins is signed and stuff now, and how much camp 546 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:10,119 Speaker 2: he has missed to this point, like we could easily 547 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: be staring in a situation for multiple weeks in this 548 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 2: backfield on one of the worst offenses in the NFL. Seth, 549 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 2: where would you be surprised if three running backs were 550 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 2: getting touches? Like Judkins isn't to a point where he 551 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 2: can handle all the early down stuff. He's not trusted 552 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 2: on passing downs. He's playing ketchup on training camp. Plus 553 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 2: the ramp up because you know that, Like, they don't 554 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 2: just toss these guys out there with no ramp up 555 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 2: at all. I ask for a soft tissue injury. So 556 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: at some point of this week, like here, we know 557 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 2: they're not gonna give drawing Ford like a twenty touch workload. 558 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 2: They will not do that. They were not drafted two 559 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 2: running backs, so they didn't have to do that. So honestly, 560 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: like if it's negative game script, are we gonna see more? Samson? Like, 561 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 2: I want to avoid this backfield because this is not 562 00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 2: a situation where we're expecting a ton of scoring. This 563 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,400 Speaker 2: is probably gonna be a bad team. We're probably gonna 564 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:07,919 Speaker 2: get multiple quarterbacks, maybe three quarterbacks plus making starts this season, 565 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: and this could be a backfode where on many given weeks, 566 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 2: maybe we're seeing three running backs getting touches in this offense, 567 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,879 Speaker 2: and they're all just cannibalizing each other. Like, does that 568 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 2: sound like a situation where we should be buying in 569 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 2: even at costs? Zeth. 570 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,719 Speaker 1: No, No, honestly, not at all. And I think there 571 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: is a really good chance that the Browns are destined 572 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: to be potentially the first overall pick next year, Like 573 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 1: that is where this could be heading. So I don't 574 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: hate that take at all. So who's the running back 575 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: to have of the Browns this year? Derek is telling 576 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: us nobody, no one, no one, bam bam, saying, last night, 577 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: did some rice in the rice cooker? Finished off some butter, 578 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: splash of soy sauce, simple and delicious. Oh do you 579 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 1: have a rice cooker, Derek? I do not have a 580 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: rice cooker. 581 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 2: I don't have a rice cooker. But dude, I'm either 582 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 2: I go with the little like cups of rice you 583 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 2: can nuke or something like that, or I'm a big 584 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: because we don't have a rice cooker and I just 585 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 2: honestly don't have time for it. So we're a big 586 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 2: boil in the bad kind of family, say very much so, 587 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 2: Or I get the little small cups that I can nuke, 588 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 2: like if I'm just making like chicken and rice for myself, 589 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 2: like roll fast as lunch or dinner or something like that. 590 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:17,720 Speaker 1: So okay, all right, yeah. 591 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 2: Bam man, I don't hate it. I will question like, yeah, 592 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 2: bro like, tellus some chicken up in there, something else, 593 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 2: like you need some extra protein. 594 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: Hey, hey man, he's just you know, keeping it like 595 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: for the night, keeping it light for the night. I 596 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: appreciate that. Also the Brophy make let us know that 597 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: he's out in Seattle. Actually, so I guess it is 598 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: still morning in Seattle. I kind of forgot that we 599 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: still have a u S. 600 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: Pacific Time is made up. It's kind of like Mountain 601 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 2: It's it's all made up. 602 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: I remember the one time I was in Pacific Time 603 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,200 Speaker 1: and I did not like it felt weird and wrong 604 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: to me, to be honest with you. And then Mike 605 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: Mayor let us know too in the chat. We've recently 606 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,240 Speaker 1: did some research here at Fancy pros. It said there's 607 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: a significant drop off after the sixth overall pick in 608 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: league win probability this year. And that is the one 609 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: point that I would say, Derek, is that, like most traditionally, 610 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: you usually do want a top six pick, and that 611 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: research has been proven, including here at FP. So what's 612 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 1: your opinion on on what you know? The smack that 613 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: mayor is laying down here? Does that change your opinion 614 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: all that the facts are the facts? Brother? 615 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: I mean, not not a ton, because I mean the 616 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 2: reason that that holds true in a lot of different seasons, 617 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 2: and I'm not disputing it is because those top end picks, 618 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 2: that's where you find the league difference makers. I mean 619 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,159 Speaker 2: a lot of that were I mean, because you have 620 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 2: just had players that just absolutely crush, like Jamar Chase 621 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: last year, CMC in so many different years. But we 622 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 2: also have I think the I think a lot of 623 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: the top tier of those running backs, Like I have 624 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 2: a tier of like five guys at the top of 625 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: the running back position that I'll like that any one 626 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 2: of them I think could be the RB one overall 627 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: this year. And some of those guys are going more 628 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 2: middle or later the round, like Christian McCaffrey, And the 629 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: same thing with the wide receiver like so like while 630 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: the easy favorite, I think a lot of like a 631 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: lot of that data is heavily not heavily, but is 632 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 2: decently influenced by a lot of Christian McCaffrey, a lot 633 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: of guys that have been just absolute difference makers and 634 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: just have like I mean, if you've been like cheat codes, 635 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: if you've had the one oh one or the one 636 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: oh two or even the one oh three in a 637 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 2: lot of years. So like, I don't dispute it, but 638 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 2: I I guess giving some context to that. 639 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: Before we keep going, I just wanted to shout out 640 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: again everyone who's tuning in and live with us on 641 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: Fancy Pros Twitch account. We really really appreciate it. Make 642 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 1: sure you please faalse or better yet, subscribe to help 643 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: support the channel and you'll never miss a Q and A. 644 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,120 Speaker 1: You can do so for free with that Amazon Prime account. Subscribers, 645 00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: they get access to our custom emotes and an ad 646 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: free experience. We'll be right back here again later this week. 647 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: We got five pm Eastern shows on Thursday and Friday, 648 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: so make sure you guys are coming to check us 649 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: out here right here at twitch dot tv slash fancy Pros. 650 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: Help support us. We appreciate it, and let's keep it 651 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: moving once again. When you do your drafts, how many 652 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,560 Speaker 1: players do you have in your stack? Generally? So, Derek 653 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: is there like a line of demarcation for you where 654 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, I'm not going to draft another Bengals player. 655 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm not going to draft another Colts player, Like I know, 656 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: we want to be connected to good offenses, so I 657 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: know it kind of varies on the offense with how 658 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:25,479 Speaker 1: can you help our guy nick out here. 659 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm usually not drafting more than like I mean, 660 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 2: if it's skilled players, like, I'm usually not drafting more 661 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 2: than one player from an offense, well, I say, like 662 00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 2: two players from an offense, only because I feel like 663 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 2: at that point you get above the two player mark, 664 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: you're asking for a lot more to go right, like 665 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: the offense in this and again this is all like 666 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: in a vacuum like this. Now this kind of gets 667 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: like a little bit more squirrely, like when you talk 668 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 2: about middle or later round players and am I willing 669 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 2: to take like maybe drafting three players from an offense 670 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 2: considering like two of them, like I'm probably in best 671 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 2: staying like top six round, top seven round kind of 672 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 2: capital in and maybe taking a shot on a guy 673 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: like later. I don't have problems doing that, but like 674 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 2: saying I'm not going to draft usually three players from 675 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 2: the same offense all like within the top five rounds, 676 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: like investing that much high draft? Now? Am I against it? 677 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 2: Not necessarily? It kind of depends on how your draft goes. 678 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: But like would I shy away from Saint h Graftel 679 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 2: to you where say T Higgins falls to you and 680 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 2: you had like the one oh one pick or something. 681 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 2: Would I shy away from if T falls and Burrow 682 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 2: falls in ADP like g at a discount or something 683 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 2: like that. Would I shy away from going chase Tea 684 00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: and Burrow in a draft? Not necessarily, So really it 685 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: all depends on context. But I'd say in a vacuum 686 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 2: like the early rounds, like those top like five six rounds, 687 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: I'm usually not investing in more than like two players 688 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 2: in an offense, maybe taking a shot on a guy later. 689 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,959 Speaker 2: But I mean, Seth, are you differing that at all? 690 00:31:59,520 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: No? 691 00:31:59,760 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 2: Not? 692 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: I mean I think I touched on it last week 693 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: in a stream that there was a league where I 694 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: took Jonathan Taylor at the one two turn and then 695 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: a three four turn I came back and got Michael 696 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: Pittman Junior and that was just a disaster of a 697 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: squad honestly. But I think at the same time, it 698 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,479 Speaker 1: depends what offense you're you're you're investing in, right, if 699 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: you're you're investing yeah, if you're investing in the Eagles 700 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: or the Bangals, someone that the Buffalo Bills, even someone 701 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: we know who has a lead upside, I'm very very 702 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: okay with it, but I'm not going out of my 703 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: way to do it. I think you said it very well. 704 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: Awesome dev Hey, guys, when I'm mock drafting, I sometimes 705 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: find it difficult to draft the player I really like 706 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: these too far down the board or in the next tier. 707 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: How do you get past this sort of hold up 708 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 1: win drafting? So, Derek, I think you're a great example 709 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: because you always say like say it with your chest right, 710 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: you know, and and you're drafting often reflects that. So 711 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 1: how do you kind of overcome the ADP the rankings 712 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: that you're using in platform and you aren't afraid to 713 00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: go out on a limb and go get your guys? 714 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 2: I mean, screw ADP. It's a false construct. It's it's 715 00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,200 Speaker 2: echo chamber at its finest. And this isn't like I'm 716 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 2: not telling you to take a fifth round guy in 717 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 2: the second round. I'm not telling you to take a 718 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: sixth round guy in the first round. I'm not telling 719 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,840 Speaker 2: you to do things that are wildly aggressive and irresponsible, 720 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 2: but like, for example, like when you get into that 721 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: mid wide receiver two range and like there's guys that 722 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: I don't want anything to do with this year, Like 723 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: I don't I'm not really heavily invested in Marvin Errison 724 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: Junior or Tyreek Hill. Like when I get to those 725 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 2: point in the draft, like, am I more likely to 726 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 2: press the button on a George Pickens or a Tedo 727 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 2: McMillan where they go? Maybe depending on your room around 728 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 2: and a half later. No, I'm not batting an eye, dude, 729 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 2: because again, if you're doing all the homework and you're 730 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: either you have your own process for how you're drafting, 731 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 2: or you're melding your process with people that you trust 732 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: they're doing their work, whether that's me, Pat Erickson, Joe An, anybody, 733 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 2: and you trust that and you come away with like, 734 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 2: these are the guys that I am strong about. Yep, 735 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 2: then get them, like, screw ADP. Get your freaking guys, 736 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,560 Speaker 2: because there's nothing worse than like you saying, oh, well, 737 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 2: I was hoping I could have gotten Pickens like two 738 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 2: rounds later or a round later, and I should have 739 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 2: drafted him because you know, he was the best guy 740 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 2: on the board. Or I was worried about a running back, 741 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 2: or I was worried about filling out my starting lineup, 742 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 2: so I reached on a tight end. But Pickens was 743 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 2: the best guy on the board. Like nah, man, Like, 744 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:32,400 Speaker 2: don't play those games, because there is nothing worse than 745 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: watching the player that you were high on, you wished 746 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 2: and you should have drafted, but you thought you could 747 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 2: have gotten later, and then you watch him do all 748 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 2: the things you thought he was going to do during 749 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 2: the season. He smashes, and like that's where it comes 750 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,800 Speaker 2: down to drafting in tiers and saying, I have this 751 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: guy at the top of the tier, where consensus has 752 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,719 Speaker 2: this guy at the bottom of a tier, Right, I'm 753 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 2: gonna like exactly like I'm drafting RJ. Harvey this year 754 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 2: and I'm standing with my chest Like but like when 755 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: you get into those RB two rangers and you're like, dude, 756 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 2: I want nothing to do with Aaron Jones, I want 757 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 2: nothing this guy. I want nothing to do with these 758 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 2: these other RB twos, Like, then draft the guy you want, 759 00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: and I mean again, This goes back to drafting like 760 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 2: you're right and you're correct, and doing that in a 761 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 2: a responsible and thoughtful yes, yet you can be aggressive 762 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 2: type of manner. If that all kind of makes sense? 763 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 1: No, one hundred percent. I remember last year I was 764 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,560 Speaker 1: all in on JSN. I had him in a ton 765 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: of leagues, and in my home league, I was like, Okay, 766 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,160 Speaker 1: I think I can get JSN. The next time he 767 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: comes around, and I waited and he went one pick 768 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: before me, and I almost burned the house down. 769 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 2: I mean, that's and there's no Dev too getting this 770 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 2: question and probably somewhere on a luxurious beach or a 771 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 2: yacht somewhere drop it in here? Are you on a 772 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 2: catabaran in the Caribbean right now? What's that look like? 773 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 1: Is DEVI a world traveler? Is that what I'm hearing here? 774 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: Globe traveler? Globe traveler? We all should be living our 775 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,279 Speaker 2: best life like Dev right now. 776 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: Fantasy pros re treat on Dev's yacht is out I'm hearing? 777 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,239 Speaker 1: Is that what I'm hearing? 778 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,279 Speaker 2: He's good, he said it on me. 779 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: Gonna come scoop us Dad. We appreciate you, brother. Very 780 00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 1: very interesting question here from EXEA divine. Should I draft 781 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 1: Judkins at the two oh one if he drops in 782 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: my rookie draft, let us know if this is super 783 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: flex or not. I would like to hear that. But Derek, 784 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 1: where are we right now from a dynasty lens with Judkins? 785 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 1: Because there's rumors that he might be head back to 786 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: the NFL the draft. It's too late for him to 787 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 1: head back to college. But what are we doing here 788 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: with Judkins? Because the two one to me feels too 789 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 1: rich when there's guys like. 790 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 2: I'm letting somebody else follow on that Landmine Oka just 791 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 2: gonna say it. I was note in on him as 792 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 2: a prospect. I was much lower the consensus throughout the 793 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 2: entirety of the draft process. And now with everything that 794 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 2: we know, the off the field stuff, and he hasn't 795 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 2: even signed his freaking contract, It's like all of this 796 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 2: is already muddying in the water. At two to one, No, 797 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 2: thank you. 798 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: Now. 799 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 2: If you still want to be in on Judkins, that's fine, 800 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 2: But I don't want to take him at the two one. 801 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 2: Like no, I'm more likely to trade back and you 802 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 2: get more equity if Judkins is a target for you 803 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 2: and then you watch him slip down the board a 804 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,799 Speaker 2: little bit and what did I say? What did I say? 805 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 2: Seth awesome? Uh? Dev throwing it in the chat back 806 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 2: from Italy Baby Globe, Traveler World Renown awesome, awesome, Dev. 807 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I respect that, and like for me, I 808 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: really feel the same way, dude that, Like I I mean, 809 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,160 Speaker 1: you and I were lower on Judkins coming in that 810 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: even the two oh one felt a little bit rich 811 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: for him then, and like now we're at the point 812 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: where hey, Matthew Golden might be around there, Jane Higgins 813 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 1: Campskataboo like Colston Loveland even potentially, Like I just can't 814 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: get there. I can't get that. 815 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,160 Speaker 2: I mean, dude, I had him at the two o 816 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 2: three and Superflex without any of that stuff. Yeah, now, dude, 817 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 2: it's like I'm dropping him, probably taking Tooton over him, right, Yeah, 818 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 2: I'm taking Tutin. I'm probably even taking Jarquest Hunter or Cam'skataboo. 819 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 2: Like I'm dropping into the back end of the second round, dude, 820 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 2: because we're doing it right now live. 821 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, we don't know, we don't know if 822 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: he's going to play this year and when he does 823 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: get signed to a team, well, we just. 824 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 2: Talked about the Browns backfield, like it's gonna be a mess. Like, yeah, 825 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 2: you're if he was a guy you were expecting in 826 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:22,320 Speaker 2: like early production, especially in this rookie season, hasn't a 827 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 2: lot of that been blown up. Like in the best 828 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 2: case of circumstances, you're hoping he fires and gets the 829 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 2: workers like workload like down the back half of the season, 830 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 2: because it's not going to happen in the beginning of 831 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:36,480 Speaker 2: the season. It's probably not gonna happen even until the 832 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 2: middle of the season because he hasn't even been in 833 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 2: freaking training camp people, right, Like, so like he's got 834 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:47,400 Speaker 2: to learn the playbook, catch up on everything, build Premirie already, continuity, 835 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,320 Speaker 2: and climb the depth chart and that's all going to 836 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 2: take time, even talking outside of the physical ramp up 837 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 2: of there is a difference of being in gym shape 838 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 2: and being in football shape for games. 839 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: All right, But before we get some rapid fire to 840 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: round out the program, I did want to let everyone 841 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: know that you should be getting ready for the ultimate 842 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,359 Speaker 1: fancy football event. Yes, it's the Fantasy pros Fansy Fest 843 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: coming back for you. Join us live on YouTube Tuesday, 844 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 1: August nineteenth at two pm Eastern time for five hours 845 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,480 Speaker 1: of rankings, sleepers and top experts like JJ Zachareson. We 846 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:26,840 Speaker 1: also have Andy Barns among many many others coming on 847 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 1: the program and when it ends well, the party's going 848 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: to keep going here on twitch baby and catch Welsh 849 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,000 Speaker 1: and Bog been playing Madden twenty six live Tuesday at 850 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,439 Speaker 1: seven pm Eastern time right here on twitch dot tv 851 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,479 Speaker 1: Slash Fantasy Pro. So very fun. Excited for that fest, Derek, 852 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: That's going to be a lot of fun. It's always 853 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,920 Speaker 1: fun to catch up with different people in the industry 854 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: and you know we do a little potathon with the boys. 855 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 2: Yes, sir, it's always a blast. I mean so many 856 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 2: people that we got to catch up with and see 857 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 2: at the XBO and stuff, and our favorites, like a 858 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,279 Speaker 2: lot of our favorites in the industry, and lot of 859 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 2: good talk. Man, so and correct me if I'm wrong. 860 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 2: Like Calie said, if anybody throw this in the chat, 861 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 2: I want to say we already have like do we 862 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,600 Speaker 2: have it already live or where people just go sub 863 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 2: to the YouTube and get ready like basically hit the 864 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 2: notifications like when this go live. I could be wrong 865 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 2: on that, but guys, let me know if I am. 866 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, let us let us know on that. But 867 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: either way, easiest way to so you don't miss anything, 868 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: go bring the bell on YouTube, right, I mean, you're 869 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: gonna know when we're going live every single time, so 870 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,319 Speaker 1: let's keep it moving here. Just give me one word 871 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 1: on a couple of these, Derek, but Alex, he is 872 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 1: in a Dynasty super Flex, startup, tight End, Premium full 873 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: PPR pick and eighth and I'm hesitating between Jalen Hurts 874 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: or a wide receiver like CD or Neighbors. For me, 875 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: it's Hurts there. He's still in that top TV QB. 876 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 2: If it's in super Flex, I'm going QB. If you're 877 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 2: able to get another guy, Like if you're able to 878 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,880 Speaker 2: get a guy that that's gonna go. Like he's in 879 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:55,280 Speaker 2: that elite tier quarterbacks, Yes, it's QB and sim mcluys 880 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 2: like Hurts is my I mean, Hurts is my ninth 881 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 2: though all player, so like, yeah, he should be there 882 00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 2: available around there. 883 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 1: And Sethea is letting us know in the back end 884 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,840 Speaker 1: if you hit that bell on YouTube, it will notify 885 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,399 Speaker 1: you that the Fancy Fest is live. So yes, good 886 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 1: work by the team over there. Speaking of Super flex 887 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: start three wide receiver league twelve team format. Here for 888 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:22,600 Speaker 1: a guy SAV for a guy SAV saying Jefferson and Mahomes, 889 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: for Lamar and Saint Brown. My other wide receivers are 890 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:29,720 Speaker 1: Puka neighbors, Brian Thomas, Adams, and Walls. So absolutely stacked 891 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 1: at the wide receiver position. Would you take a down 892 00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: grade from Jefferson to Saint Brown to get Lamar over Mahomes. 893 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, because if you're looking at just just mash up 894 00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 2: the points per game for both of those guys, you're 895 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,839 Speaker 2: probably not losing a ton of points per game going 896 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 2: from Jefferson to same Brown, but you're going to gain 897 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 2: a ton of points going from Mahomes to Lamar, like 898 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,239 Speaker 2: we're talking about like you're probably gaining a good like 899 00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 2: four Fantasy points per game right in the process. And 900 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,800 Speaker 2: so you're really evaluating, is the gap between Jefferson and 901 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,920 Speaker 2: Saint Brown gonna be high enough to where that's not 902 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,759 Speaker 2: a move that you want to make. And so I mean, 903 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,839 Speaker 2: where do you sit on it? Seth Like I would 904 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 2: do that, and I'd take the little Mars side and 905 00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 2: super flex. 906 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I mean, and then you're your wide receivers 907 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: are still Puka neighbors Brian Thomas Junior and Saint Brown. 908 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,880 Speaker 1: That is insane, Like you're not even starting Adams and Waddles, 909 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 1: So I would, I would, I would do that. I 910 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:26,160 Speaker 1: think that's so. 911 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 2: And I mean you're looking at a similar range like 912 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,920 Speaker 2: Amana has been at that like where has he been 913 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,440 Speaker 2: like the last few years, So sixteen point seven, twenty 914 00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 2: point seven, eighteen point six, Jefferson has been hovering around 915 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 2: like anywhere from eighteen to twenty, so really giving up 916 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 2: like two to about two and a half Fantasy points 917 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 2: per game. And the move from Jefferson to same Brown possibly, 918 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 2: but really in the aggregate between these and that's how 919 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:53,880 Speaker 2: you need to look at it. And you're starting lineup, 920 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,400 Speaker 2: you're probably gaining like three to four Fantasy points in total. 921 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,640 Speaker 2: So even if you look at it that way, you're 922 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 2: still probably it's a net gain for you to get 923 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 2: the Lamar side, right right. 924 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,840 Speaker 1: I agreed with you there. 925 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 2: And he's still stacked a wide receiver, so like you're 926 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 2: still gonna make it up and a lot of these 927 00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 2: other guys, like he's still absolutely flush at wide receivers. 928 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 2: Even the move down from Jefferson the same Brown isn't 929 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 2: gonna hurt him at all. 930 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: Nick, let us know that seven pm out where he 931 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 1: is in Beverly, Yorkshire, near the original. So nah, that's cool. Good, 932 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: that's good to know. 933 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 2: Man, you're checking in. We got people coming back from Italy, 934 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 2: like Worldwide seth getting big baby. 935 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the first Fantasy Pros live event. Maybe it 936 00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:36,239 Speaker 1: happens overseas. You never know, you never know. 937 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 2: They we're going somewhere, nice man. 938 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,680 Speaker 1: At least we're going international. We're going international. 939 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily need you know, the beach and the 940 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,759 Speaker 2: sun time and stuff like that, but you know, I 941 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 2: do occasionally like it's on the beach, but very much 942 00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:50,200 Speaker 2: in the shade. 943 00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:51,080 Speaker 1: Yes. 944 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 3: Uh. 945 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 1: If you're picking towards the end of the draft and 946 00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:56,759 Speaker 1: you're using tears, do you take the last guy in 947 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: a tier above or take two from the same here? 948 00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,560 Speaker 2: So, I mean, it depends depends on the draft. It 949 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,440 Speaker 2: depends on like how you're setting up your tiers. I mean, 950 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 2: in a vacuum, you're taking the last guy of the 951 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 2: the top tier and then the top guy of the 952 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 2: next tier, you know, I mean that's yeah, how you 953 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 2: give your tiers set up and. 954 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 1: You're shooting for upside you're shooting for upside, right, Like 955 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,400 Speaker 1: I heard Seay last week say it great, Like if 956 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: someone doesn't have like top thirty upside, why are we 957 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 1: even having them a roster, right, Like like we don't 958 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 1: need to go and draft guys like Rashaan Bateman, who 959 00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: like that is his ceiling, right, So no, I don't 960 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: I don't want. 961 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 2: To draft a ton of guys. Like it's either you 962 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 2: hit or you don't, and you're either helping me win 963 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 2: a league or you don't. And it's like, because dude, 964 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 2: the middle of the season, you can find some random 965 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,400 Speaker 2: shmowe to center and fill a flex like with the 966 00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 2: matchup is awesome that week, and like you're touchdown hunting 967 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 2: and stuff like that. So like all those flexworthy players 968 00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 2: like you know, we know that, like players like maybe 969 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 2: it's Horton is gonna have a pop off week, Dante 970 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 2: Thornton Junior is gonna have a pop off week. Like 971 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 2: you can get guys like even off of waivers in 972 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:09,960 Speaker 2: the middle of the season to like maybe have a 973 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 2: ceiling spike week from a flexible, Like we care about 974 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,239 Speaker 2: the guys that are going to be difference makers in 975 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 2: the leagues and you're shooting for the upside thought. 976 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 1: Miss saying he's out in l A. If you're ever here, 977 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: y'all are getting some beers. Make sure wherever we go 978 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: prime that they got some bush light on draft. That's 979 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,880 Speaker 1: all I asked for. Got to run bush light all weekend, 980 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: every bar bush light. 981 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 2: He started handing handing bush lights to me like I 982 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 2: was sitting down. No, lie, everyone, I'm sitting down at 983 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,919 Speaker 2: Georgia's at the bar. And Seth comes up from behind 984 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,880 Speaker 2: me and he goes, oh, I think you misplaced this. 985 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:47,839 Speaker 2: This must be yours and sits down a bush light 986 00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 2: in front of me, and I was like, what is 987 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 2: this swill? I don't want. 988 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: That's all right, I think you. 989 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:55,440 Speaker 2: Got the wrong person. 990 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: Just one morning for the collection, Baby, It's all right, Grek. 991 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: Derek doesn't accept my gifts. 992 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 993 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 2: And I love. 994 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: Favorite handcuff this season from our guy Fantasy Fumble Weekly. 995 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,680 Speaker 1: Oh that's a good name. I like that one as well. 996 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: I've lost fantasy matchups due to late fumbles, so I 997 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: can relate to that for me, Derek, I am not 998 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,839 Speaker 1: leaving a draft if Isaac Grendo is sitting around there, 999 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: just for the off chance I'm drafting him. I'm drafting 1000 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: a ton of base shall too, not because I see 1001 00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,399 Speaker 1: him as a handcuff, but more as like an interchangeable 1002 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,759 Speaker 1: part in a big uh avegiguous backfield. And I was 1003 00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: drafting a lot of Ray Davis until the news today. 1004 00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:41,279 Speaker 1: So anyone you would kind of add to that list 1005 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,480 Speaker 1: here for our guy Fantasy Fumble weekly, I mean. 1006 00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 2: The guys that are gonna go in that handcuffey type tier. 1007 00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 2: Jordan Mason will be drafted somewhere around there, Tank Bigsby, 1008 00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,719 Speaker 2: so guys that can have like standalone value true handcuffs though, 1009 00:46:55,840 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 2: like Basil Twot and Cam's Kataboo guys. I mean, I 1010 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 2: think the thing with with with handcuffs that we need 1011 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 2: to be looking at are the clear situations that we 1012 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,640 Speaker 2: know if a guy goes down, who's gonna be the 1013 00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 2: primary ball carrier? Like tyre el Year is going to 1014 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 2: go super freaking late if anything were to happen to 1015 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 2: be Jean, you know who is getting the freaking ball 1016 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,320 Speaker 2: on a weekly basis, dude, So like him, I have 1017 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:26,479 Speaker 2: no problem with the Ray Davis calle, but I guess 1018 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:34,080 Speaker 2: like the true handcuffs Tyre Alsiar dj Gindon's Jalen Wright. Yeah, 1019 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 2: I look at all of those guys and you could 1020 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:42,279 Speaker 2: throw Ray Davis and even Jacory Krossky meritage but conversation, Yes, 1021 00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,880 Speaker 2: so we could be staring at Summer of Bill. 1022 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: Summer of Bill baby apart from injury, which top tier 1023 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 1: player could bust? Ooh ooh? 1024 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,480 Speaker 2: I really like you know Mi kiro and hate so yeah, Williams, Like, 1025 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 2: I think I think Jarques Hunter is going to be 1026 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,640 Speaker 2: involved in this backfield. I do not care, but the contract. 1027 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 2: I still think that that it's fully gonna happen. Breese 1028 00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 2: Hall if this truly is a two to three way committee, dude, Like, 1029 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,800 Speaker 2: I'm not saying that it should be. I know that 1030 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 2: it should be, but I'm just saying that it could happen. 1031 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: Chad's coaching staff man just like, yeah, he's a beast, 1032 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:21,840 Speaker 1: get yeah. But Jonathan Taylor for me, I am with 1033 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 1: you on that one. 1034 00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,120 Speaker 2: Cuba Hubbard a guy that I think we're looking at 1035 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 2: wrong falsely, Like, yep, say bust because people are gonna 1036 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,840 Speaker 2: take Cuba Hubbard and I think in a lot of 1037 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 2: aspects they're gonna say, I mean, he's he's gonna be 1038 00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 2: the guy that he was last year, right, Like we're 1039 00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,920 Speaker 2: looking at like I'm getting an RB one at RB 1040 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:41,000 Speaker 2: two prices. But I I'm telling you, man Rico, Dudle 1041 00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 2: and Trevor into that backfield. 1042 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: I just moved him down the other day. I just 1043 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: moved him down because I'm really afraid of them a 1044 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 1: little bit. 1045 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,680 Speaker 2: Some of the guys that I'll toss into here again, 1046 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,840 Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill, do not want to be drafting him. You 1047 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,760 Speaker 2: know my thoughts on DK Metcalf and Arthur Smith offense 1048 00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,960 Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior only because and I say, bust, Yes, 1049 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,560 Speaker 2: this dude is being drafted as a wide receiver two 1050 00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,080 Speaker 2: in that entire freaking offense changed over one year. Where 1051 00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 2: it's like did we not learn this from last year? 1052 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 2: It's like we all drafted him as a top fifteen 1053 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:22,560 Speaker 2: wide receiver last year. Nothing has changed in this offense. 1054 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,400 Speaker 2: Like I'm fine with taking him as a wide receiver three, 1055 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,239 Speaker 2: but he's not gonna go there, dude. So yes, like 1056 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 2: where and again a bust is being categorized as the 1057 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 2: expected production you're expecting out of where that guy's being 1058 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,120 Speaker 2: drafted and how he's fitting into your team versus the 1059 00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 2: reality of what you're probably gonna get out of him 1060 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 2: throughout the season. So like, yeah, if you're drafting Marvin 1061 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 2: Rrison Junior as a wide receiver two, get ready for pain. Also, 1062 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,879 Speaker 2: if you're drafting z eight Flowers as a wide receiver two, 1063 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 2: get ready for pain because he's been a wide receiver 1064 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:56,239 Speaker 2: three in each of the last two years. Like what 1065 00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:57,120 Speaker 2: we got to learn? 1066 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:57,399 Speaker 3: Man? 1067 00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:58,799 Speaker 2: People got to learn? 1068 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 1: Last question. We'll wrap up with a fun one here 1069 00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 1: from Bam Bam Branson, who is the MVP of your 1070 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: first league winning team. Mine was healthy in two thousand 1071 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 1: and six. Eighteen hundred yards twenty eight f D's absolute 1072 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 1: god for me, Derek, I remember very vividly it was 1073 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: Michael Vick on his return with the Eagles. And also 1074 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:20,560 Speaker 1: Peyton hillis another guy who's been forgotten about, but he's 1075 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,480 Speaker 1: he saved, he saves lives. He was on the Mad cover. 1076 00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: So Peyton Hill is always in the heart. Baby. What 1077 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:26,839 Speaker 1: about you? Do you remember yours? 1078 00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 2: Jimmy Graham Oh okay, in his breakout season, Jamal Charles 1079 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,440 Speaker 2: over a number of seasons. I'm trying to think of 1080 00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 2: another one here. It's it's definitively both one of those 1081 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,640 Speaker 2: two guys. Okay, dude, I had so much Jimmy Graham 1082 00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,120 Speaker 2: when he blew up in his like the first year, 1083 00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 2: he like just absolutely crushed. Yeah, and I was. I 1084 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:50,759 Speaker 2: remember I had a team where I was rocking Rob 1085 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,040 Speaker 2: Gronkowski and Jimmy Graham. When I was just playing one 1086 00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,840 Speaker 2: of those guys in the flex and just mauling people, 1087 00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:56,760 Speaker 2: it was wondrous. 1088 00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,680 Speaker 1: World renowned traveler Jimmy Graham. So maybe you and Dev 1089 00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: can break up some time out there, Derek, thanks so 1090 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 1: much for hanging out with us. Man. Thank you everyone 1091 00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 1: in the chat for hanging out with us. 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