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Speaker 1: is up? Straight firefam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire

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Speaker 1: for Thursday, July twenty seventh. Got a massive, I'm talking

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Speaker 1: a huge interview today with the great Preston Johnson. We

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Speaker 1: cover everything, what it's like being a soccer owner. He's

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Speaker 1: entered some big high stakes poker tournaments. We'll do NFL

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Speaker 1: out of NBA. He gives some NFL leans, no actionable

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Speaker 1: college football stuff. He just hasn't done the homework yet.

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Speaker 1: And listen, it's late July. Who has. But before we

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Speaker 1: get to Preston, I'm loath to bring this up because

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Speaker 1: I talk a lot about the New York Jets and

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, and I openly was not keen on Rogers

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Speaker 1: going to New York for a litany of reasons. We

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Speaker 1: don't need to rehash. Stood by all of it. And

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Speaker 1: Rogers gets on board, and I'm like, Okay, hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna support him. He's a Jets quarterback. I root for

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Speaker 1: the Jets, and Aaron Rodgers has been a totally different

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Speaker 1: dude since joining the Jets. That's undeniable. Look at the interviews,

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Speaker 1: the way he talks to the media, the way he's

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Speaker 1: hanging with his teammates, the way he's embraced New York.

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Speaker 1: This is a brand new person. And then something happens

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Speaker 1: Wednesday that just takes it to the next level that

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Speaker 1: you didn't even think was possible. Aaron Rodgers took a

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Speaker 1: thirty five million dollar pay cut essentially to sign a

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Speaker 1: new two year deal with the Jets. When he arrived

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Speaker 1: one hundred ten million left on his old contract. He

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Speaker 1: has a new two year, seventy five million dollar deal,

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Speaker 1: and his salary cap hit in twenty twenty four is

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Speaker 1: only nine million dollars, giving the Jets a lot of

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Speaker 1: flexibility next year, which leads to, holy cow, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: make this work. Try to make this work next year

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Speaker 1: or this year obviously, and then next year with a

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Speaker 1: smaller cap hit. Rogers is like, Yo, if we see

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Speaker 1: something we need to go out and get, let's go

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Speaker 1: get it and win a Super Bowl, folks. Any way

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Speaker 1: you slice it, this is absolutely stunning. I don't know

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Speaker 1: what's got into Rogers. Maybe it's the ayahuasca, maybe it

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Speaker 1: was the Darkness Retreat. Maybe I need to go on

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Speaker 1: a darkness retreat before the football season. Just hang out

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Speaker 1: in the cave, have a come to Jesus moment, and

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Speaker 1: I'll come out of it a better person, podcaster, husband, father.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I need something like that, you know, if Aaron,

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Speaker 1: If it can work for Aaron Rodgers who was ornery

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Speaker 1: I have heard one of my buddies who's a regular listener,

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Speaker 1: they said it was literally transformative, like significantly in a

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Speaker 1: good way. I am a little reluctant to dabble in

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Speaker 1: get into my history, although I have talked about that

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Speaker 1: stuff on this Saturday radio show. No, I'm not asking.

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Speaker 1: Don't DM me asking at any rate. Without further ado,

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Speaker 1: let's get to today's great guest, Preston Johnson. You know

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Speaker 1: a guy Jason likes to think he knows everything when

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Speaker 1: it comes to sports. I know what sports fans want,

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Speaker 1: but for everything he doesn't he knows the guy who does.

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Speaker 2: Let's just say I know a guy who knows the

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Speaker 1: All right, let's welcome into straight Fire A one of

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Speaker 1: the favorite guests that we've had on the pod over

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Speaker 1: the last few years, and now thanks to the advent

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Speaker 1: of video on the podcast, you can see Skinny Preston Johnson.

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Speaker 1: He looks like he's down at least thirty pounds. Preston,

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Speaker 1: how are you, man?

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Speaker 2: I am doing well, man, Thanks for having me back

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Speaker 2: on as usual. I love it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the last time we talked to you

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Speaker 2: It's intense. Man. I used to play more back in

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Speaker 2: Like you can call clock on someone if they're taking

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Speaker 1: Then how many times can you call clock.

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Speaker 2: a few minutes. Yeah, yeah, it's it's interesting. Poker's like

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Speaker 2: as a game it's perfect because of like the mental

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Speaker 1: So what if they what if they came to the

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Speaker 2: Honestly, the Saudi should just get in on the Vegas

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Speaker 1: How soon do you think that could happen?

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Speaker 1: This cannot keep going up in perpetuity. We're not going

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Speaker 2: referenced the media deal and how much money, like the

433
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Speaker 2: salary capolic. You have guys like dam already set to

434
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Speaker 2: make nearly seventy million in their final years. Jalen Brown's

435
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Speaker 2: probably near his final year. Like that's seventy number. It's

436
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Speaker 2: just a matter of time before this is a crazy one.

437
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Speaker 2: When it gets I think they'll be everyone's gonna let

438
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Speaker 2: it ride. You have all this media money coming in.

439
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Speaker 2: We'll wrap with this when that number gets to so

440
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Speaker 2: and so it's making eighty two million a year, and

441
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Speaker 2: people where do they reference eighty two if it's that's

442
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Speaker 2: how many games you play and then they didn't play

443
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Speaker 2: that many anymore. If you're making over a million a game,

444
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Speaker 2: that might cause some hold up, like this is too

445
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Speaker 2: much money. But until then, I think it's just gonna

446
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Speaker 2: keep going with where all the markets are headed.

447
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Speaker 1: Or at least that it's interesting. Did you see the

448
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Speaker 1: Austin Rivers comments. I think it was on the Ringer

449
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Speaker 1: the Ringer, but he essentially was saying that the new

450
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Speaker 1: CBA is so messed up that you've got like the

451
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Speaker 1: Phoenix Sun's paying four guys thirty one million dollars or

452
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Speaker 1: more a year eight and bal Booker and Durant and

453
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Speaker 1: then they have no middle class on their team and

454
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Speaker 1: it's all minimum salary guys. And then you're starting to

455
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Speaker 1: see Boston now has three guys over thirty mil with Porzingis,

456
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Speaker 1: and now they do have some middle class guys. But

457
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Speaker 1: Austin Rivers made it sound like they're weeding out the

458
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Speaker 1: middle class. I get the I guess the mid Level

459
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Speaker 1: Exception is usually a big deal in the summer, and

460
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Speaker 1: only one team has used THEIRS this year, and it's

461
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Speaker 1: getting to a weird moment, like I don't know, is

462
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Speaker 1: the top end too high? And like you know, there's

463
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Speaker 1: really no middle ground in the NBA. It's either you're

464
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Speaker 1: a have or a have not. And I did hear

465
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Speaker 1: one of these philosophers say that's where we're headed in

466
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Speaker 1: like media and companies. As it all thins out, there's

467
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Speaker 1: going to be a couple big ones at the top

468
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Speaker 1: and then just like a long trail of small ones

469
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Speaker 1: and there's really not going to be like a middle ground.

470
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Speaker 2: It's basically you have your couple front facing whatever massive names,

471
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Speaker 2: and then from there you just get people that can

472
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Speaker 2: do the rest of the jobs for the cheapest amount possible.

473
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Speaker 2: I mean it's possible as far and this new CBA

474
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Speaker 2: agreement with bargaining agreement with the players in the league

475
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Speaker 2: in the NBA, there are so many details that still

476
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Speaker 2: aren't even in public. I haven't read through it myself,

477
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Speaker 2: to be honest, so I can't speak for it exactly.

478
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Speaker 2: But that's the reason for some of these deals that

479
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Speaker 2: it's why Austin Rivers was referencing it. His teams are

480
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Speaker 2: setting up to where they need to in order to

481
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Speaker 2: compete to win a championship at least two, if not three,

482
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Speaker 2: of those max level guys. But then if you're going

483
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Speaker 2: to be over under that second apron and how much

484
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Speaker 2: you're paying in luxury tax, like you're either filling it

485
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Speaker 2: with a bunch of vet men or if you do

486
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Speaker 2: have one other guy that's mid tier, like you're just

487
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Speaker 2: paying so much like two hundred million year reference Ballmer

488
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Speaker 2: and the Clippers, like just in luxury tax, Which then

489
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Speaker 2: is it worth it to have a guy at like

490
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Speaker 2: trying to think like how much does Robert Covington or

491
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Speaker 2: Marcus Morris make for the Clippers right now? Or Norman

492
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Speaker 2: Pal Norman Pal, is he really worth going that like

493
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Speaker 2: a sixty million in the luxury tax for one year

494
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Speaker 2: of Norman Pale? Like he's probably worth like fifteen to

495
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Speaker 2: twenty a year or something. But like when your actual

496
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Speaker 2: dollar value as an owner is that's what's going to create.

497
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Speaker 2: This gap is just the way it's kind of set

498
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Speaker 2: up and dictating she's unfair guy. It's like, yeah, you're right.

499
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Speaker 1: Oster River's unemployed at thirty. He's not even have a team.

500
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Speaker 1: I know he did punch out Mobamba or whatever last year.

501
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,919
Speaker 1: But the other thing with the NBA that's weird, like

502
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Speaker 1: this Damian Lillard saga, he's trying to make everybody happy, Preston,

503
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Speaker 1: and when you do that, you make nobody happy, and

504
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Speaker 1: like he doesn't want to be the bad guy. But

505
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Speaker 1: then his agent says, I only want to go to Miami,

506
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Speaker 1: and it's like, well, are you going to report if

507
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Speaker 1: you go to Philly? Are you just not going to

508
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Speaker 1: show up? Like what should should these guys be able

509
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Speaker 1: to do that? Because we know how Jalen Brown's contract work,

510
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 1: right He gets as much money as he can now,

511
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Speaker 1: and then we'll see how it goes after a year

512
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Speaker 1: or two. And then if it's not going your way, guys,

513
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Speaker 1: I need a trade out here.

514
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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, man, it's there's I'm all for player empowerment,

515
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 2: but like, yes, there's a detriment to it as well.

516
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Speaker 2: So I totally hear you. On the other side. It's interesting,

517
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Speaker 2: I can totally relate to trying to make everyone happy

518
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Speaker 2: actually leads to almost making nobody happy. Like I feel

519
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Speaker 2: like I've handled certain things that way myself in my life,

520
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Speaker 2: and you have to kind of put your foot down sometimes.

521
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Speaker 2: So for for Dame, I respect that he tried to

522
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Speaker 2: stay in Portland and give it a shot. They didn't

523
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Speaker 2: They weren't good enough, and he only has X amount

524
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Speaker 2: of years left where he can be a contributing, impactful,

525
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Speaker 2: significant player for a championship team, and so it's kind

526
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Speaker 2: of was now or never for him, I think. So

527
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Speaker 2: I think it's fine. I think the hard part is

528
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Speaker 2: when you come out and say you're only going to

529
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Speaker 2: go to the Miami Heat. Really, at the end of

530
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Speaker 2: the day, it's really not giving your franchise any leeway

531
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Speaker 2: or you know, advantage or traction, and now Miami can

532
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Speaker 2: just hold out and get like basically the cheapest deal

533
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Speaker 2: possible for Damian Lillard, who had like his best efficiency

534
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Speaker 2: season ever last year and seemingly is just as good

535
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Speaker 2: as an offensive player. It's just about anybody else in

536
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Speaker 2: the league, you know.

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Speaker 1: Any early thoughts on the NBA next season. I'm sure

538
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Speaker 1: the Suns obviously are up there with the Beal addition.

539
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Speaker 1: Lakers kind of up there. I don't know about that.

540
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Speaker 1: I'm curious your thoughts on the Warriors adding Chris Paul

541
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Speaker 1: and dumping Jordan Poole.

542
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Speaker 2: I don't understand the people that don't like it. I'm

543
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Speaker 2: not sure where you were on that table. I'll try

544
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Speaker 2: to remember. Listen, you know, I listen to your show.

545
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Speaker 2: But like Chris Paul is such a good basketball player,

546
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Speaker 2: still say, oh, you might get hurt in the playoffs,

547
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Speaker 2: like okay, But Jordan Poole was unplayable anyways there, and

548
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Speaker 2: it was like ruining the relationship anyways with you know,

549
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Speaker 2: Draymond and other things like So to get Jordan Pool

550
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Speaker 2: out off of a contract that honestly was probably bad.

551
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Speaker 2: I don't think he's as good as that contract is.

552
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Speaker 2: Worth anyway, you get the like toxicity out of there,

553
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Speaker 2: and you bring in a vet and a player that,

554
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Speaker 2: if he's healthy, like Chris Paul is going to add,

555
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Speaker 2: especially you know, for a bench you that can play differently,

556
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Speaker 2: whether he works well with Stephen Clay and Draymond or not,

557
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Speaker 2: they'll probably solve it. You know. It's easy for Chris

558
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Speaker 2: Paul to say, but I've heard him in a few interviews,

559
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Speaker 2: but like, look, people, I've run basketball offense is one

560
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 2: way in my whole life because that's what I was

561
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Speaker 2: asked to do. But I'm adaptable, like I can play

562
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Speaker 2: a different way too, and you guys will see that.

563
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Speaker 2: And I don't have any reason not to believe him.

564
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Speaker 2: And he's still a player that makes his teammates better.

565
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Speaker 1: So he feels like that guy who he's your favorite

566
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Speaker 1: basketball players, favorite basketball players, Chris Paul. Everybody loves him

567
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Speaker 1: and the analytics love him. I don't know, man like

568
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: gets in fights with the people on his team, gets

569
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Speaker 1: in arguments all the time, tough to deal with. What's

570
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Speaker 1: he been on like four teams in five years.

571
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Speaker 2: Like let me ask you this, do you do you

572
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Speaker 2: think their chances went up to win a championship or

573
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Speaker 2: down swapping Jordan Poole for Chris Ball.

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Speaker 1: I think down for sure.

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Speaker 2: You think they have less of a chance than I

576
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Speaker 2: think Jordan Spool contributed. He literally they couldn't play him

577
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Speaker 2: when they won it against the Celtics, even though in

578
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Speaker 2: Jordan Poole's good season, he couldn't even stay on the

579
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Speaker 2: court when they won.

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Speaker 1: Right two years ago, he was good. He struggled against

581
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Speaker 1: the Celtics, but he was good otherwise. And the key

582
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Speaker 1: for me is Stefan Klayer liked with thirty four to

583
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Speaker 1: thirty five something like that, and I think they had

584
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Speaker 1: to miss a ton of games the last two years.

585
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Speaker 1: You could plug in Jordan Poole and he could give

586
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Speaker 1: you twenty and you might win, you might lose.

587
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Speaker 2: Whatever.

588
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Speaker 1: You can't expect, Chris Paul, I don't think to start

589
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Speaker 1: twenty or thirty games and then be healthy for the

590
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Speaker 1: playoff runt? Can you like? Is that something you could

591
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Speaker 1: You think you could reliably lean our a thirty eight.

592
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Speaker 2: Year old twenty or thirty games, yes, Chris, Well, go

593
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Speaker 2: back and look, he's not like he's only playing fifteen

594
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Speaker 2: games a year.

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Speaker 1: Well, that way for the problem and every postseason he

596
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Speaker 1: breaks down. It was a hamstring. And then I know

597
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Speaker 1: you like the Nuggets a lot. I gotta give you credit.

598
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Speaker 1: You we early on Buka, you early on the Nuggets.

599
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Speaker 1: But in that Nugget series they were they were down

600
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Speaker 1: one nothing and then Paul gets hurt in the third quarter,

601
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Speaker 1: they get run off the floor. But in games three

602
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: and four, they were a different team, playing with pace

603
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Speaker 1: as opposed to the slow down methodical stuff, and they

604
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Speaker 1: won two games.

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Speaker 2: Dud, dude, do now, don't look too far into that.

606
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Speaker 2: Booker and KD dropped like eighty plus in each of

607
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Speaker 2: those games and just didn't miss a shot, and both

608
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 2: games still went down to the final like three. It's

609
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 2: like the Nugets almost won both. Anyway, I wouldn't be

610
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Speaker 2: anti Chris Paul because of those two games. But there's

611
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Speaker 2: something to be said where maybe that's why Chris Paul

612
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: doesn't work with Stephan Clay like we'll see. But I

613
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Speaker 2: think it's worth the shot if I'm.

614
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Speaker 1: End of the East. So you think there it's a

615
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: big win for them. So where do you have them

616
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Speaker 1: currently in the West Dame obviously pending and hardened pending.

617
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Speaker 2: You think before over all the Suns and the Nuggets

618
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,439
Speaker 2: obviously are ahead of the pack. And the Nuggets are

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Speaker 2: probably still a tier ahead of the Sun slightly just

620
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Speaker 2: because no one can stop Jokic at the end of

621
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Speaker 2: the day. But yeah, yeah, Warriors will be top four.

622
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Speaker 2: I'm not necessarily thrilled with where the Lakers are at.

623
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Speaker 2: I think they probably are like similarly good to where

624
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Speaker 2: they were last year. They're not gonna get massive. They'd

625
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Speaker 2: have to probably make a move mid season to right.

626
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Speaker 1: So they were. They were struggling last year and at

627
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Speaker 1: the break they dumped Westbrook and then all of a

628
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 1: sudden they get incredible. I think they were the number

629
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Speaker 1: one defense after the trade deadline or the ullstro break

630
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: something like that. And they go to the conference finals

631
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Speaker 1: and they smoke the Warriors. How are they not better?

632
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Speaker 1: And by the way, I don't mind the Gabe Vincent

633
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 1: ad who's they add? Jackson Hayes is okay. And then

634
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: there was the third guy. Oh, Cam Reddish is a

635
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: good Bilow like talents there, but he's a bit scattered.

636
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, what, do you really think the Warriors

637
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: got better?

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Speaker 2: Dude? I think Chris Paul can be in addition to

639
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 2: a team that gives them a shot, and I think, yeah,

640
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 2: that's fair that they can try to replace him with

641
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 2: some mid level guy or an acquisition or something mid season.

642
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 2: But you know, Kaminga and Moody maybe take leaps finally,

643
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 2: who knows. But I'm not going to bank on that.

644
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 2: But as far as the Lakers go, and I'm a

645
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,440
Speaker 2: Lakers fans, people probably know where can see like maybe

646
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,000
Speaker 2: I'm being a little bit like careful and on purpose

647
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: or cautious, but I'll say this that they got swept

648
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: by the Nuggets, but it was by a total of

649
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: like twenty points or twenty two points. It's like five

650
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 2: points a game, and any of them could have really

651
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 2: gone either direction. So there's that. I think Austin Reeves

652
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 2: played above where he probably is in a vacuum, and

653
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: by that I mean, like on average long term, I

654
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 2: think he had a better postseason than he will probably

655
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,959
Speaker 2: have on average the next couple of seasons. That's my guess.

656
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: I think ruy Ha Chamura also played a punched a

657
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 2: little above his weight. And then there's just a concern

658
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 2: with Lebron obviously in health and ad and health, Like

659
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: I just don't think you can bank on the Lakers,

660
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 2: but like can maybe in the next again with a

661
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 2: similar run in a West that's still like pretty like

662
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 2: it's deep, but like there's no real standout other than

663
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: the night. It's possible, for sure.

664
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: I think I saw a stat or heard it maybe

665
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: with Zach Low that said the Lakers played more Austin

666
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: AD and Lebron in the playoffs than they did in

667
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: the regular season because of the injuries.

668
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 2: Westbrook really is the subtraction of west and Westbrook.

669
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah for minutes, and so why can't they do better

670
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: next year? Now, again, Lebron's not gonna play eighty two,

671
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 1: and eighty is not gonna sniff eighty two. But my issue,

672
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: like with the Warriors, could not handle Anthony Davis at

673
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: all in the playoffs. AD had a great series, and

674
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: it's like, what are they gonna do against yok They

675
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: don't have anyone on the roster taller than Kevon Looney.

676
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: You know, they barely get by the Kings in Game seven.

677
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: Curry has like a fifty burger. I don't know, I'm

678
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: just and I've Curry's my guy. I had been my

679
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 1: favorite player probably in all of sports history that I've

680
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: since I've been around like I love the guy, and

681
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, man, I.

682
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 2: Think we just talked ourselves into like the Nuggets are

683
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,719
Speaker 2: probably just gonna win the West again. It's like the

684
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: Suns didn't have anyone that could stop him either. Aighton

685
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 2: got played out of that series, and I know Ayton

686
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: in the coach for whatever, but like, I don't know,

687
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: Frank Vogel, maybe changes their defensive identity, but you can't

688
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: play Durant at the five and stop nikolayok at at

689
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: the end of the day, like that series against the Heat,

690
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: like the Nuggets can't even shoot well from three portered

691
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 2: and hit a single shot the whole series, Like there's

692
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 2: room for the Nuggets to actually perform better. Granted it

693
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 2: was just the Heat. The Heat really weren't the best

694
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: team in the East.

695
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: The Bruce Brown loss is kind of big. But you

696
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: know Peyton Watson from UCLA, apparently.

697
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 2: He's been love him.

698
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 1: Yeah in practice, tooth, let me try to sell you

699
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: on two teams real quick. Atlanta Hawks to make a

700
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: massive leap into the top four full year with Quinn Snyder.

701
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: Great great coach and honestly, if you look at their

702
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: top nine players, I love their roster. I think they're

703
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: super tough, and I think they'll sneak into the top

704
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: four in the East. In the West. This is a

705
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: long shot. I haven't bet it yet. I haven't been

706
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: to Vegas, but Houston Rocket's over and it's solely because

707
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: of Udoka being an awesome coach and on like a

708
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: redemption tour from getting fired in Boston. And also that's

709
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: another roster. Man. You look at them like one through eight,

710
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: and I know there's some like Jason you're getting excited about,

711
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: like twenty three year old guys. That dude, there's some

712
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: guys on that team. Man. I think they were a

713
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: definite over. I think they're like a thirty five win team.

714
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: Shane gouon season for Jason McIntyre. Look, look, they're fun.

715
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: We didn't what's a Jabari Smith? Is that his name?

716
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: He dropped like a couple of thirty plus games in

717
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: summer league. Yeah. Yeah, they're not gonna win thirty five

718
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 2: games though in that Western conference, but they're over enders.

719
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 2: Not We're close to that, right, What is it?

720
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty eight, twenty eight?

721
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: Is it really that's higher than I would.

722
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: Have Maybe that maybe he's lower than that. I don't

723
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: have it.

724
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 2: I haven't even looked to be fair. But they're not

725
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: gonna win thirty five just because they're the Spurs.

726
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: And then the second everyone else is actually trying. Second

727
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: one of Kings won up eighteen games. You called that

728
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: one too, I believe right, I did, But I think

729
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 1: other people had that. But like they would up eighteen

730
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 1: games with like Si Bonus and Fox making leaps Like

731
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't see why Fred van Vliet's a huge upgrade.

732
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: Dylan Brooks has hopefully clean up his act and the

733
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: Udoka factor. I don't know. I'm big on coaches, Man

734
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: and Hawks anything.

735
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 2: Or no top four in the East, like it's possible,

736
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: but they're not. They're not a championship contender in my

737
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: eyes with Trey Young as a starting point guard.

738
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 1: Uh. The only interesting thing I heard, and I'll bounce

739
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: it off. You were buried it deep in the podcast.

740
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: For people who check out Mobley and the Calves, keep

741
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: an eye on Mobili if the Calves don't sign his brother.

742
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: I think his brother was on a two way last year.

743
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: And wait, Mobley's he really pissed about it. Well, we'll

744
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: see if he gets We'll see if his brother gets

745
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: a contract.

746
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 2: I think he held hold on a second because Evan

747
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: Mobley has like real, real, like superstar potential upside. You're

748
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: saying that he would like potentially ask out of Cleveland or.

749
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: Demand I don't know that I'm ready to go there,

750
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: but okay, okay, can we see him signed his extension

751
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 1: in Cleveland? And I know very few don't sign the

752
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: rookie extension. If Cleveland doesn't commit to his brother, we'll see.

753
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 2: I don't know that's crazy. There's a reason though, that

754
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: everyone was signing Yiannis's brothers over and over and they

755
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: were obviously not.

756
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: You know, Mobley is from la as you know, and

757
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: by that time, I think Anthony Davis will be long gone. Lakers.

758
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: I see this is the Lakers playing. I like it.

759
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: I'm already on.

760
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: You're not to say anything else away, Just file it away, okay,

761
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: quickly to the NFL. Preston, I don't know we're training

762
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 1: camps to open any teams or players or coaches or

763
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: any bets or anything that you're looking at.

764
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: The jump out at you, I will tell you as

765
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 2: someone that obviously hasn't been betting on sports and paying

766
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: as much attention the last two years and especially this season.

767
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 2: I'm not going to give you anything directly to bet

768
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: or look at, but I will say this general philosophically,

769
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,239
Speaker 2: like things that probably work a little bit better than

770
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: half the time, and then do some more research and

771
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: make your dissas. Okay, there's two.

772
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: One.

773
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: There's obviously all of the Aaron Rodgers hype. Everyone's high

774
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: on the Jets. I think technically you're a Jets fan

775
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: if I recall correctly. I'm not sure if you've gone

776
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 2: out and said your piece yet on everything. I'm not

777
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: sure it's necessarily fade the Jets, but it might be

778
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: buying on the Packers, who have a pretty good roster

779
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 2: from what I understand, real and Jordan loves like pretty

780
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: high variance. We don't have a lot of information on them,

781
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: but like who in that division really the Bears, the

782
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: Vikings who won way too many games last year. Everyone

783
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: knows that story. It's like the Lions are supposed to

784
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 2: be better, yes, but like the Packers, like could absolutely

785
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,280
Speaker 2: be a real team. So maybe there's something there with

786
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers noise that like people are and I wouldn't

787
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: necessarily fade the Jets. Or maybe it's like buying on

788
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: the Dolphins. Another high variance Betwoord wasn't Tua like last

789
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 2: year before he got injured the best EPA at quarterback

790
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: in the whole league, or he was at least top five,

791
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: and then they're pretty stacked elsewhere like that. Maybe it's

792
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: betting on the Dolphins and you know, fading the Bills,

793
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 2: fading the Jets that way, and I'll say this is

794
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 2: the lasting. My favorite bets I've made in my life

795
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: are the ones the year after a team or maybe

796
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: for a few years, a team got or a player

797
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: got super hyped, and then they failed to meet expectations.

798
00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's really hard for a player that gets typed

799
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: to win the Heisman Trophy or to win a super

800
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 2: Bowl or whatever it may be, like, it's actually really

801
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 2: unlikely to do that. So when they don't and then

802
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: everyone forgets about them, it doesn't mean it was untrue

803
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 2: the prior seasons. Right, So what I'm getting at is

804
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Browns everyone talked about the last years as

805
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: being stacked. They've been stacking in the draft, They're super deep,

806
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: and now like maybe a stable year of Deshaun Why

807
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 2: are the Cleveland Browns? I looked at the futures odds

808
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 2: this morning before we went on this thing. They're the

809
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 2: bottom half of the league and chance to win the

810
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Everyone was just talking about them being like

811
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: the sexy team that could win the super Bowl. Now

812
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 2: nobody's talking about them. So if there's value, like in

813
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: those types of instances, it's generally like it's like buying

814
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 2: what I was selling high that type of weird for us.

815
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: I saw their win total was nine and a half.

816
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, that is wildly different than I would

817
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: expect because that division's brutal. Ravens and Lamar are gonna

818
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: be good. Bengals, I think are super Bowl worthy again.

819
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: And I kind of like Pittsburgh. You know TJ. Watt,

820
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: healthy picket, good skill, position players, offensive line improved, They

821
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: got the big kid from Georgia. We know Georgia offensive

822
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: linemen have crushed the NFL like as soon as they

823
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: get in. I don't, I just that's.

824
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: Probably why the price is. That's probably why the price

825
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 2: is what it is without me doing a bunch of

826
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: like simulations or anything. But I'm just the Browns. I

827
00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 2: don't think people were wrong for two or three years

828
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 2: saying they stack talent. Now the talent's a little bit older,

829
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: and now you have like a real quarterback that doesn't

830
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 2: dealing with off the field stuff Like if the Browns

831
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 2: click this year and win twelve or thirteen games and

832
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: make a playoff run, it wouldn't surprise me.

833
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: Wow, those are some definitely out of a box on

834
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: love it. And then finally, I know you are a

835
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: big college football guy. I haven't really dug into too

836
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: much college football. I know it's a good year for quarterbacks,

837
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: like very good year. But you were in Vegas recently

838
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: for the poker did you lay any futures bets?

839
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 2: Zero? I've listened to more NFL stuff than college football.

840
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 2: It's one of those things, to be honest, I'm just

841
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 2: gonna be straightforward. If I started listening to people talk

842
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 2: about or reading college it would probably hook me back

843
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 2: in and I just can't afford to put that time in,

844
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 2: and so I haven't even attempted it. I could listen

845
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 2: to NBA and NFL stuff, and it's like whatever I can,

846
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 2: it's for fun. The college football. I'm afraid I would

847
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,759
Speaker 2: end up like staying up all night running stuff again

848
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 2: and betting, and it wouldn't be good.

849
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: Very granular. Yeah, because I remember, I think it was

850
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: last year you came on and you were like Georgia

851
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: Bulldogs and I was like, dude, they just won the title.

852
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 1: Stetson Bennett, come on, no shot, and a couple of

853
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: listeners were like, dude, I took it as soon as

854
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: he said Georgia and it was awesome. I was like,

855
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 1: this is what Preston does, man, he delivers winners. Anything

856
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: else you want to get off your chest there, big guy,

857
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: you played any hoops.

858
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 2: Dude, we gotta play still. That's let's get that off

859
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 2: our chest. We got I got to drive up to

860
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: La Area and we got to play. I've I'm like

861
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: in shape, ready to go, like we should make it happen.

862
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: Just yeah, are you doing any cardio or what are

863
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: you lifting?

864
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 2: Dude? I yeah both. I'm like running a mile and

865
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 2: a half two and a half miles a day, depending

866
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: on if I cycle that day too, and then I'm

867
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 2: lifting every day.

868
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, cycling in this in this heat out here in the.

869
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 2: World outdoors, No, just at the gym. I'm just it's

870
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 2: not that hot here. It's like our hot days. It's

871
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: like eighty degrees fahrenheit.

872
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to go back to posting your shooting

873
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: videos in the gym. I'm on a cold streak, dude.

874
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: Last summer, Preston, when I was trying to get you

875
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 1: up here, I think was at the height of my

876
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: adult basketball powers.

877
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: And I'll fix your shot. I'll fix your shot.

878
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,359
Speaker 1: I need a shot done, Coach Preston. Yeah, because Preston, listen,

879
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: it's tough man. You know, you got the kids, and

880
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: like we're doing multiple sports and you know, my kid's

881
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: now doing chess. It's like one of my I used

882
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: to be playing two or three times a week, and

883
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: so when it comes to game time, I'm ready and

884
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,360
Speaker 1: now it's like I'm playing once a week, and like that.

885
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: You can't do that?

886
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: Do we have two minutes? I got to explain the

887
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: kid shoot the coolest shooting game I've learned in a

888
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 2: long time. I was at the gym. It was just

889
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: the one that's closest to my house. Here as a

890
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 2: twenty four hour fitness going to run to play pick

891
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: up and we're not quite at ten guys, and there's

892
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: this kid there, probably younger twenties, who's just taking threes

893
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 2: over and over from like Steph Curry range way beyond

894
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: the three point line, and he's making almost all of them,

895
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:49,959
Speaker 2: and I was like, who is this guy? He doesn't

896
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 2: really look like he'd be a great player, but he's

897
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: just hitting everything and he shoots it almost like a

898
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 2: jump shot. I was like, which is even harder to do.

899
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: It's not like a set shot. Anyway. I was watching

900
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 2: him go, watching him go, watching him go. I find

901
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: no game gets played because we didn't get to ten guys.

902
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: And I decided before I leave, I'm gonna start rebounding

903
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: for him, just because, like just to show him I

904
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: have interest. So I start rebounding for him for ten

905
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: to fifteen minutes. He misses occasionally and he's like, hey,

906
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 2: you can shoot. I'm like, no, no, I want my

907
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: rights come in. I'm just rebounding for him because I

908
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: was like intrigued by how good this random person no

909
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: one's ever seen is it's shooting a basketball from thirty feet.

910
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: Next week, I go by and I get back to

911
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: the gym and the same kid is there with two

912
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: friends and they're all standing around the three point line

913
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: and they're taking turn shooting threes. And I was like,

914
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 2: he's going to remember me because I'm like, the fat

915
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 2: bearded guy that was rebounding for him last week, I'm

916
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: gonna go talk to him. And I was like, what

917
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: are you guys doing? And he's like, Oh, it's a

918
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 2: game I made up when I was in high school

919
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: with my buddies, and it's a team game. We shoot

920
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 2: threes from our spots and we see how many we

921
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 2: can make in a row. And depending on how many

922
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: players are playing, like there was three of them, you

923
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: can afford to miss one, but if you miss a

924
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: second one, you have to go back to zero and

925
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: you get like one chance per round, and then you

926
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 2: can also do like an and one, or if the

927
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 2: ball rebounds back to you, you can take a second shot.

928
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 2: So basically, you have these guys in your shooting threes

929
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 2: over and over and over, and you're trying to as

930
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 2: a team see how many you can make in a row.

931
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 2: And he's like, the three of us, you know, the

932
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: record's like one hundred and one three pointers, or with

933
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 2: two people, it's like it's like in the nineties, I

934
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 2: believe that.

935
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: Wait a sec, who's is there is the third guy

936
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 1: rebounding or is that.

937
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 2: Just rebound for yourselves? And so he was standing where

938
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 2: he always shoots. He was like thirty feet away. He's like,

939
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: jump in. I know you can shoot. Jump in. And

940
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 2: so I went in the corner and there were four

941
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 2: of us, and when there's four, you can actually afford

942
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: to miss two before you have to go back to zero.

943
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,879
Speaker 2: And we just would shoot and shooting, but like it's

944
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: it's fun because it's totally degenerate because you're trying to

945
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: get to a number. And the record with four he

946
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 2: SAIDs like one hundred and forty threes, and we got

947
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: to seventy a couple times. But so you start shooting

948
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: at touch, like all of a sudden, I was like

949
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 2: addicted to this game. And for a few weeks stretch,

950
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 2: I shot the basketball more than I had in a

951
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 2: lot of time. So be and you started playing it.

952
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: That is what I was getting at. We're gonna get

953
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 2: your shot back. It's just a matter of getting reps

954
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: up and just making it happen.

955
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: Wow, so you're getting up a lot of shots. Huh, Well, listen,

956
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 1: you you're not like employed. I have to go to

957
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: a studio every day and go on the sit on

958
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: the on the show for three hours.

959
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 2: I don't got chess tournaments either.

960
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, but your kids are a little younger.

961
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, eight, six and then one.

962
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not doing sports. Well, I'm sure they are,

963
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: but not like intensia. It's coming, don't worry anyways. Preston

964
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: great Stuff has always continued success with soccer, poker, gambling, everything,

965
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 1: And thanks for taking the time buddy.

966
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 2: Thanks Jason,