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Speaker 6: Good Thursday morning to you, sir.

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Speaker 7: Good morning guys. How we're doing.

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Speaker 6: Good morning, We're good.

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Speaker 4: Another day of you sitting the top the top the throne.

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Speaker 6: Huh does it get at this point?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I mean, you know it's you just don't want to

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Speaker 5: You don't want to lie yourself to become too comfortable

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Speaker 5: because it is comfortable up here. You know, I'm not

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Speaker 5: gonna lie, so you know, you just want to kind

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Speaker 5: of make sure you don't get too comfortable.

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Speaker 3: That's fair.

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Speaker 6: That's fair.

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Speaker 4: Now, now, speaking of comfortable, you would think that Jalen

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Speaker 4: Hurts would be comfortable in Philadelphia based on the fact

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Speaker 4: that he just won a Super Bowl, was a Super

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Speaker 4: Bowl MVP. He went to another Super Bowl Like, He's

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Speaker 4: done some pretty impressive things in his career. Yet there's

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Speaker 4: these reports that come out first from Diana Rassini, there

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Speaker 4: that players are not happy with sort of how he

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Speaker 4: And how much of this is just schematics and just

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Speaker 4: performance on the field, and how much of it is

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Speaker 4: just a personality thing and maybe they just don't like

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Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts.

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Speaker 5: It's a little bit of both, and it has been

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Speaker 5: there's also kind of like this stoic way about him.

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Speaker 7: That isn't for everybody, you know.

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Speaker 5: And I think the one thing that like, you know,

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Speaker 7: You know, he has a you know, kind of a very.

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Speaker 7: That's just part of the package, you know.

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Speaker 5: And so that's been what it's been, and I you know,

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Speaker 7: You didn't hear it in twenty two or twenty four

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Speaker 7: So I think a lot of it's relative to the

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Speaker 3: I mean, in my mind looking at it, it's tough.

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Speaker 8: You've got Kellam Moore's head coach and Steigan's head coach

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Speaker 5: And you know, one thing that I think shouldn't be

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Speaker 7: And I think that's like honestly, like bradyes to this,

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Speaker 2: Is there the chance that Mike Daniel survives after this season,

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Speaker 7: I believe the next two weeks.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to look it up for you guys here

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Speaker 5: like the opportunities there for Mike McDaniel. The owner likes him,

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Speaker 5: And one of the things that I know that.

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Speaker 5: Is well, you know, this guy is going to be

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Speaker 7: You know, I think we get any owner thinking well.

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Speaker 5: What about you know, the first chance that I'm giving him,

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Speaker 5: Why can't he be that now?

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Speaker 5: So I think that that's I think it's gonna be

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Speaker 4: NFL reporter, lead content strategist at the MMQB. Michael Pennix

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Speaker 4: junior out for the year. The Electa Falcons I think

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Speaker 4: have been a disappointment for a lot of people's expectations

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Speaker 5: Not only that, like Mike Frabel was kind of an

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Speaker 7: As a result of all of this.

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Speaker 7: Like, I mean part of the risks of Brady right Like,

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Speaker 5: People after they did that, right was, look, if they

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Speaker 7: Not going to matter what they spent.

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Speaker 5: The position is that important, right like, so so like

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Speaker 5: And that's the thing no one remembers. No one remembers

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Speaker 5: No one cares because they have Josh Allen. Now this

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Speaker 7: You're going to do that, you better not strike out,

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Speaker 5: Know, like and I think that that's sort of the

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Speaker 7: So we're going to kick the can.

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Speaker 5: Down the road. The owner was on board with it,

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Speaker 7: So there's actually like kind of like a trail of.

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Speaker 7: Question is do they have quarterback?

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Speaker 8: I mean, now Pennix is on our you know, you

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Speaker 8: know in games. Arthur Blanks seems to be the type

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Speaker 5: And I think he should be with Raheem Like I

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Speaker 7: Quarterback? Absolutely, and you know it's.

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Speaker 5: Not a great spot to be in. And I don't

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Speaker 5: Can you separate that from making a decision on the

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Speaker 7: For you for the next ten years?

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Speaker 5: Like that's the real trick, right, Like.

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Speaker 7: So can the owners do that?

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Speaker 7: Is, like you know, it's now been a while.

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Speaker 7: Is that right?

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Speaker 2: The wherewithal to do it.

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Speaker 5: I would say, like you give Arthur Blank the benefit

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Speaker 7: But sometimes it's not easy.

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Speaker 2: Aby Man, last question for you is about the Commanders

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Speaker 5: Well, I would say there's one big difference at the

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Speaker 7: We do know how Daniel Snyder.

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Speaker 5: Did, and you know, like he was such a massive

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Speaker 7: Certain way, and he empowered.

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Speaker 5: Him to I would say, do some things that undermine

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Speaker 7: I you know, I like.

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Speaker 5: Until further notice, LeVar, I think we can take this

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Speaker 7: So I don't want to again. I don't want to

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Speaker 5: Failures of Daniel Snyder around the neck of Josh Harris.

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Speaker 5: I don't want to hang the failures of Robert Griffin

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Speaker 5: on one or two year deals, and there was a

446
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Speaker 5: lot longer rebuild required. And so you know, whether or not.

447
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Speaker 7: Like the Commanders come out of this, I think.

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Speaker 5: It's going to depend on now their success with some

449
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Speaker 5: of the younger players that they drafted, Guys like Josh Connolly,

450
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Speaker 5: like Krossky Merritt, you know, like some of the guys

451
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Speaker 5: that that that have come into that building.

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Speaker 7: Over the course of the last couple.

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Speaker 5: Of years, Trey Amos, Mikey Sainer. Still, you know, can

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Speaker 5: those guys become frontline.

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Speaker 7: Players for them?

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Speaker 5: And then what do they do this year in the

457
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Speaker 5: draft with you know, a lot of their capitol drained

458
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Speaker 5: because they made trades for veteran players. It's those are

459
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Speaker 5: the real problems for the for the commanders to me,

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Speaker 5: like right that those are the things that they're going

461
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Speaker 5: to have to answer for. I think I think Jayden

462
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Speaker 5: Daniel is gonna.

463
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Speaker 3: Be just fine.

464
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Speaker 7: I think Dan Quinn is going to be just fine.

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Speaker 5: And we have no reason to believe that Josh Harris

466
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Speaker 5: is suddenly going to morph into Dan Snyder.

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Speaker 4: Maybe, uh, one quick one before we get to your

468
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Speaker 4: uh the pick on the big game in college football

469
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Speaker 4: this weekend? What the hell is going on with Kean Coleman, Like,

470
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Speaker 4: what's happening? Is he just not shown up to meetings

471
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Speaker 4: or what?

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 7: What's Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I mean, like there's there's a there's a ton of

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Speaker 5: stuff that they've had to deal with.

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Speaker 7: I think the kid has to grow up. What they're

477
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Speaker 7: trying to do is they're trying to put them in

478
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Speaker 7: a position.

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Speaker 5: Where they're trying to they're they're they're they're trying to say, Okay,

480
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Speaker 5: like if you want to be part of this, like

481
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Speaker 5: you need to carry yourself differently. There's a level of

482
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Speaker 5: responsibility that we demand from all of your players that you're.

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Speaker 7: Not exempt from.

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Speaker 5: And so, you know, I think this is sort of

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Speaker 5: their attempt to sound the alarm to the kid and

486
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Speaker 5: and and and get him on a path where he

487
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Speaker 5: can be you know, a real factor for them in

488
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Speaker 5: the playoffs.

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Speaker 7: They need him, you know, like I.

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Speaker 5: The receiver spot there between Shavers and Shakir and you

491
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Speaker 5: know what they've got right now is is just okay.

492
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Speaker 5: And you know, getting more out of a high second

493
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Speaker 5: round pick, you know, by the end of December and

494
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Speaker 5: then into January, it would be absolutely huge for them.

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Speaker 5: So to me, this is a swing and trying to

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Speaker 5: weigh keon Coleman up a little bit and we'll see

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Speaker 5: if it works, all right.

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Speaker 2: I never fel.

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Speaker 3: We didn't have I don't well, I mean, what's sort

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Speaker 3: of ask he's gonna be start?

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Speaker 2: I just figured it a top there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's getting first team reps. Guys like I that it's.

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Speaker 8: Unbelievable how this is like blown into like a cultural war.

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Speaker 3: It's it's it's weird, man, I don't get it.

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Speaker 8: It has like it's like people get all fired up

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Speaker 8: about it.

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Speaker 3: It's like, I don't understand.

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Speaker 8: This is no different than any other backup than now

509
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Speaker 8: is threat or string position.

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Speaker 3: I mean I was a backup. I was a starter.

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Speaker 8: If I'm starting, I'm not giving away reps where you

512
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Speaker 8: don't get enough during the week to prepare as it is.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I just I mean, you know what, Brady

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Speaker 5: I was thinking about this like that that The funny

515
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Speaker 5: thing about this is like you don't It doesn't even

516
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Speaker 5: need to be like we don't. You don't even need

517
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Speaker 5: to explain it to you from an NFL context, right,

518
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Speaker 5: Like to think about like a team you.

519
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Speaker 7: Were on in high school, Like how often was.

520
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Speaker 5: Your coach randomly throwing backups into the into the line.

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Speaker 3: I'm never getting ready for a game.

522
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Speaker 2: Never.

523
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Speaker 8: It's like it should be relatable to anyone who has

524
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Speaker 8: a brain, has ever played football or been around football,

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Speaker 8: but somehow she won't to talk about it.

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Speaker 3: On the note of.

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Speaker 5: Coleman, it's just great injustice that it just doesn't make

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Speaker 5: any sense at all.

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Speaker 7: But anyway, No, on.

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Speaker 8: The note of Coleman, though, wouldn't it be better to

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Speaker 8: keep this stuff in house?

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Speaker 2: Like you you You.

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Speaker 8: Let this stuff get out and we don't know how

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Speaker 8: it's gonna work. Maybe he understands what they're trying to

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Speaker 8: do and he grows up. Maybe he doesn't, but like

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Speaker 8: once it becomes public, it kind of hurts you the

537
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Speaker 8: trade value. You know, at some point, can't you just

538
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Speaker 8: kind of keep this stuff in house, not broadcast, address them,

539
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Speaker 8: just not play him and let him know what and

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Speaker 8: he understands what's happening.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I would say when you've already tried a

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Speaker 5: bunch of stuff, like you know, maybe.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what is the acting like a pennstated edge rusher?

544
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Speaker 2: Is that what's happening?

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Speaker 8: No, I'm just saying between Micah Parson's Abdual Carter, we

546
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Speaker 8: can have a lot of questions of LeVar.

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Speaker 7: Wow.

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Speaker 5: That was that was That was unbelievably wow.

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Speaker 8: I'm trying to wake up LeVar over there. I'm trying

550
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Speaker 8: to get him up off that hospital. Betty looks like

551
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Speaker 8: Hugh Freeze up in the press box calling the game

552
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Speaker 8: cold blooded?

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Speaker 5: Is this a heroic effort by LeVar today to make.

554
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Speaker 3: It I'm just trying to get LeVar going.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm not going to do it. I'm not going

556
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Speaker 2: to respond to to these people attempts to draw a

557
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Speaker 2: reaction out of me. I'm just I'm not going to

558
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Speaker 2: do it. And both of them happen to wear Levin too.

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Speaker 2: They they belonged to Stick City. You know, it is

560
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Speaker 2: what it is. You know, people should have the opportunity

561
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Speaker 2: to mature and grow up and make mistakes and you know,

562
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Speaker 2: make decisions. This is all all good.

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Speaker 6: Taking nap in a meeting, Alberta.

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Speaker 2: People have fallen asleep in meetings. You know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's happened before you know, stand.

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Speaker 7: Up, I fall asleep. I fall asleep a lot of

567
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Speaker 7: weird random places.

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Speaker 2: So Alberta, stand up. Cool to sleep coming? You got

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Speaker 2: to stand up.

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Speaker 6: Quickly before we before we let you go. Uh Ohio State.

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Speaker 4: Will they be better than Rutgers this weekend by more

572
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Speaker 4: than thirty one and a half points?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I almost took them not to cover it myself

575
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Speaker 5: out of it last week, right, Like, so I'm not

576
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Speaker 5: going to talk myself out of this Swiss week?

577
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Speaker 7: Well, Well we will, we will be.

578
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Speaker 2: We will be.

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Speaker 7: Rolling into uh into an Arbor there.

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Speaker 5: There you go, I'd be worried about Michigan, Brady, I

581
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Speaker 5: don't think so, right.

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Speaker 8: I mean, you guys were the biggest favorite in the

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Speaker 8: history of the series, right, and you guys lost the

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Speaker 8: home last year.

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Speaker 3: I think it's play concern.

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Speaker 8: By the way, because because here's the thing is, like,

587
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Speaker 8: I know you probably feel really confident about this year.

588
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Speaker 8: That's kind of how I felt about that matchup last year.

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Speaker 8: I mean, Michigan threw for what sixty yards in that game?

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Speaker 8: They still won, right, right, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 5: Like that was like a that was I mean, that

592
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Speaker 5: was totally like it was in our heads and it's

593
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Speaker 5: like that got the best of us.

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Speaker 7: I just don't think that's going to happen again, you know,

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Speaker 7: But I.

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Speaker 8: Guess I don't. I don't either, Bud. If I was

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Speaker 8: a betting man, I don't think it's going to happen.

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Speaker 8: I think the line's way too low. I would lay

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Speaker 8: the points easily with Ohio State there. But again, like

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Speaker 8: last year scarred me for life. We're I'll never be

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Speaker 8: able to look at this robbery again and say, yeah,

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Speaker 8: I don't care what the.

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Speaker 3: Point spread says. It's just usually going to be a

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Speaker 3: tighter game.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, but how do.

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Speaker 5: You feel about like a freshman quarterback against Matt Patricia.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, trust me. Last week they had five turms

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Speaker 3: last week quarterback.

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Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, but so none of that matters, and Bowie Bowie.

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Speaker 3: I would expect him to run a lot more.

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Speaker 8: I would expect them to unleash that element because this

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Speaker 8: game is a college football playoff game for them. If

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Speaker 8: they don't win, well, obviously they've got to you know,

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Speaker 8: win this week, but if they don't win next week,

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Speaker 8: they don't get in. So I would expect them to

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Speaker 8: utilize his legs like Biff Pogi did earlier.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, Ab, we always appreciate it. Get him

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 7: Thanks?

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Speaker 7: If we don't talk about there.

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Speaker 8: He is, Yeah, there, he is a great autome by

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Speaker 3: Big ten?

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Speaker 2: Three different conferences.

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Speaker 8: Three different conferences, doesn't have to be the exact same

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Speaker 2: Boy four power for would it be Lane Kiffin?

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Speaker 3: It is not Lane Kiffin. M I mean that was unnecessary.

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Speaker 3: I mean he did, and that's why he falls in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so Minnesota good at it too.

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Speaker 2: I always wanted to play for Lou holtz Man. Lou Holtz,

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm a I'm a big fan of Lou Holtz Man,

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Speaker 6: That's on them.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm blaming you, Jonas. But anyway, I felt left out,

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Speaker 12: I want to thank Penn State. I had twelve years there.

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Speaker 2: Cinnamon, cherry, sugar, strawberry, strawberries like strawberry.

884
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 13: That's the classes.

885
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 6: Cherry's good too.

886
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, cherry, that's my stuff.

887
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 6: Oh well, you do.

888
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 13: Get to pick which pop tart the team is going

889
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 13: to be able to devour. Yes, fans will decide which

890
00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 13: edible mascot the team gets sacrificed.

891
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 6: Yeah.

892
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,479
Speaker 13: The way they put that, Uh, they each with three

893
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 13: mascots face off in a flavor fueled showdown.

894
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 6: As for word to vote, I'm not quite sure.

895
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 2: But are they?

896
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole thing toaster, it's absurd, the whole thing

897
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 4: so cool, it's amazing.

898
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 8: It's what makes college football great. Shonas spit on pop

899
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 8: Tart's like it's scout on, but it's not.

900
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:14,760
Speaker 3: It's not a bastard.

901
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 6: It's not a real pop tart though. What comes out

902
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 6: is more like a cake.

903
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 3: It's a gigantic pop tart. What do you think a

904
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 3: pop tart is essentially a.

905
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 6: Little toasted little more like a cake.

906
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you're a cake eater, so no, what's you damn?

907
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: Oh goodness, put his face all up in.

908
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 6: Here, all up in it.

909
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 13: Anyways, I guess we should move on.

910
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 6: Okay, I'm going to give you guys options. Do you

911
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 6: want to talk about a dog or cheerleaders?

912
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 2: I mean, choose between two?

913
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 13: All right, obviously you want to go with cheerleaders.

914
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 8: You did?

915
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 5: You? Did?

916
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 12: You?

917
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 6: Guys?

918
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 13: See that Bill Belichick went to Jordan Hudson's cheerleading competition

919
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 13: a good boyfriend. Oh my gosh, it looks like toddlers

920
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 13: and tiaras.

921
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 8: Say there was another guy, guy, you're missing the lead.

922
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 8: She's in an adult cheerleading competition. Like this is a thing.

923
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 8: Adults have cheerleading teams.

924
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 6: It's the It's the loser version of Beer League softball.

925
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, are we being I didn't know this existed.

926
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: Is this like a whole different world I've never heard of.

927
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 13: It's terrifying.

928
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 6: I don't want to be in it.

929
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 13: If it does exist.

930
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: I've never heard of it, but I do have a

931
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: cheerleader daughter, so y'all try it lightly on this dime.

932
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 8: I get that, but I'm saying I didn't realize there

933
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 8: was life after college for cheerleading the NFL.

934
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 3: There's dancing.

935
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 2: I will strike back if they want to. If they

936
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 2: want to chair as adults, let them cheer as adults.

937
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: Good for you, Bill, Say that means she's using the

938
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 2: muscles keeping that body tight. Enjoy