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Speaker 1: Hello, gorgeous, It's Lala Kent. Welcome to Untraditionally, Lala. Hey, babes,

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Speaker 1: it's La La Kent, Welcome back to Untraditionally Lala. I

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Speaker 1: am so excited to have Frankie Grande on this podcast.

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Speaker 1: You have no idea. I've been obsessed with him for

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Speaker 1: quite some time, and the way that we met was

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Speaker 1: we did a film together and I was completely starstruck.

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Speaker 1: It's actually the same film that David Arquette spoke about

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Speaker 1: me being a total bitch on set, and I had

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Speaker 1: to call him out on socials to be like, could

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Speaker 1: you maybe take into consideration that I'm around, I don't

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Speaker 1: know you, Frankie Grande, Misha Barton, and maybe I was

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Speaker 1: a little intimidated. Can we maybe take a step back. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: Frankie was freaking fantastic on that movie, and I'm excited

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Speaker 1: to deep dive into him and his life and sobriety.

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Speaker 1: You guys know Frankie Grande as an actor, a singer,

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Speaker 1: a dancer, a producer, television personality. He's also the brother

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Speaker 1: of Ariana Grande. So let's give the warmest of welcomes

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Speaker 1: to Frankie motherfucking Grande.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to La La Can Show.

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Speaker 1: Oh you are just everything.

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Speaker 3: I miss you so much. I can't believe this is happening.

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Speaker 1: By the way, i just feel like I know you

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Speaker 1: so well from the time that we met and bonded

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Speaker 1: on the set of Spree and just watching your socials.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, we're so deeply connected. Am I a psychopath

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Speaker 1: for thinking that?

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Speaker 2: No, not at all. I feel exactly the same way.

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Speaker 3: We're also thrust into that environment in such a crazy way,

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Speaker 3: Like it was like, hey, have fun, You're locked in

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Speaker 3: a car together.

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Speaker 1: With a murderer I know, and Frankie I was so

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Speaker 1: intimidated by. I like, was this girl from Utah who

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Speaker 1: just like happened to be on a reality TV show?

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Speaker 1: And then I'm put into a car with like these

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Speaker 1: very talented, well rounded actors and I'm like, I have

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Speaker 1: no it's the first time ever I've struggled with Imposter syndrome.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, well I have struggled with a Boster

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Speaker 3: syndrome myself. So when you say that, I'm like, oh, okay,

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Speaker 3: something we can talk about.

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Speaker 1: You look amazing. I'm so grateful that you're taking time

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Speaker 1: for me.

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding? I'm so excited. Stop it. We're friends

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Speaker 2: and also I'm thrilled.

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Speaker 1: Thank you okay, so so much for having me of

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Speaker 1: course anytime. Okay, are we all glammed up just for

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Speaker 1: the day or are we like in rehearsal mode just.

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Speaker 2: For you baby?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm gonna go see my friend perform at Carnegie

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Speaker 3: Hall after this, so it's like, you know what, let's

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Speaker 3: just like, you know, do a too, fer.

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Speaker 1: I love this for you. Okay, so you're you're currently

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Speaker 1: on Broadway right now.

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Speaker 3: So no, I just closed Rocky Horror last night, which

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Speaker 3: is why I have no voice because I've been screaming

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Speaker 3: and in the final show, I just let it all go.

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Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, I'm going my last

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Speaker 3: show for a second, I'm just gonna sing. And then

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Speaker 3: I cried after with the cast during our final bow

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Speaker 3: and just got home last night.

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Speaker 2: So I'm a little under but I am so excited

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Speaker 1: Well, I think your voice is very sexy. Let me

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Speaker 1: ask you, so, do you when you start you said

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Speaker 1: it's your third year that you've done this. Yeah, before

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Speaker 1: every show, do you get nervous and go, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: what if it doesn't go the way I think it's

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Speaker 2: So in no, I'm very much about I like when.

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Speaker 3: It doesn't go the way we think it's gonna go.

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Speaker 3: Like I'm like a very on your feet kind of performer,

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Speaker 3: Like I'm a host as well, So like anything that happens,

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Speaker 3: like I'm just like, let me volley, let me play

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Speaker 3: on it. Like there was like one one day recently

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Speaker 3: of her hitting the floor happened before I dropped her, okay,

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Speaker 3: And then I dropped her and then I was like, wow,

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Speaker 2: And then the audience just like lost their mind and

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Speaker 3: So like things like that I love because it just

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Speaker 1: Did you grow up in the theater?

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Speaker 3: So I started when I was in fifth grade. My

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Speaker 2: Wow, this is so magical and I want to do

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Speaker 3: So yeah, in my DNA was your mom in the arts?

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Speaker 3: Oh my mom is no, she's a ceo girl. She's

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Speaker 3: got like companies what wazoo and she but she loves

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Speaker 3: like took me obviously when I was a very little kid.

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Speaker 3: And then as soon as Ariana was born, we were

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Speaker 1: What an incredible experience to be artists. Right, you were

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Speaker 1: destined for greatness. What's the age difference between you and Ariana?

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Speaker 2: Ten long years?

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Speaker 1: Ten long years? And is it just the two of

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Speaker 1: you or do you have other siblings?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Just well, so I have a half brother, James, with

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Speaker 1: I love that every time I think of you, like

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Speaker 1: you just embody everything that I that I want this

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Speaker 1: world to be oh, just very kind. Well I'm not

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Speaker 1: that kind actually, Well it depends on who you ask.

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Speaker 1: Some people think I'm wonderful. Some people think I'm a

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Speaker 2: I love that though.

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Speaker 3: But because you can't be everything to everyone, you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm saying, because then you're not genuine. Right now,

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Speaker 3: you've got to kiss some fucking people off, especially like

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Speaker 3: today in this political environment, it's like you if you're

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Speaker 3: like not pissing someone off, then what the fuck are

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Speaker 1: And you know what, I You can't please everybody, and

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Speaker 1: have a massive problem. And I don't know who I am.

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Speaker 1: So there's a ten year age difference when when you

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Speaker 1: got into this environment where you're like on Broadway and anything.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to talk about Frankie, you just tell me.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 1: What I do know is that the two of us

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Speaker 1: share sobriety. Yeah right, and you've got eight years, Yes

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Speaker 3: Week, happy birthday, Thank you, my love.

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Speaker 1: So I want to know what was what was that

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Speaker 1: moment of you were like, oh, I'm really digging the drink.

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Speaker 1: Or whatever your choice was. I found that being in

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Speaker 1: entertainment and you obviously possess talent, and I'm in reality TV,

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Speaker 1: but I noticed that it was like, oh, we're having

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Speaker 1: at night, and it just became my norm. When did

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Speaker 3: I think, well, So I got sober to like with

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Speaker 3: therapist to see if I could do ninety days clean.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, of course I can, that's so easy.

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Speaker 2: I couldn't make it one day clean.

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Speaker 3: So I hired a sober coach and they stared at

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Speaker 3: me for ninety days and I did my ninety days clean,

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Speaker 3: and at the end I was like work, See that

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Speaker 3: didn't learn shit. And then I was like, you know what,

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Speaker 3: it was one drink a week, and then it was

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Speaker 2: Was just wasted. Was wasted.

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Speaker 3: So I think when I realized that I had gotten

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Speaker 3: And then when I got the call to be on

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Speaker 3: I'm so perfect, I'm ready. And then fucking after party, right,

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Speaker 2: I didn't drink that night.

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Speaker 3: I was so proud of myself. Went to the after party,

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Speaker 3: which you know, reality TV is such a trigger.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's a really tough environment to be in.

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Speaker 3: You know, you joke about you know, not having talent

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Speaker 2: So don't underplay it.

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Speaker 3: You know you're you are an incredible person to be

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate you saying that, because you know, I

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Speaker 1: have very self deprecating humor. But when it really comes

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Speaker 1: art and not everybody can do it, and not everybody can,

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Speaker 1: you know, go on and be authentically themselves and be interesting,

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Speaker 1: but it is I don't know, if you're in the

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Speaker 1: am in the program, and I've noticed what's really hard,

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Speaker 1: and you know, honestly, my way to quote unquote success

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Speaker 1: my sponsor, it really when I when I step into

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Speaker 1: it goes against everything that I learn in my program

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Speaker 1: Right? The stakes are much higher now, Yeah, you have

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Speaker 2: You want more, right, it doesn't end.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't end.

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Speaker 3: I just mean, like, my schedule is fucking nuts so,

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Speaker 2: Like it's like it's just like it just that's the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she's a fucking badass. And she's like, you know,

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Speaker 3: the woman.

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Speaker 2: In the room.

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Speaker 3: Oh she's still the only woman in the room when

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Speaker 3: she went to all of those things, any sort of

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Speaker 3: trade show or business meeting, it's only woman.

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Speaker 2: So she's badass. But it's like, yeah, no, I guess.

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Speaker 3: So if you're saying, but I guess that's the luxury

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Speaker 3: of being a gay man is like we're not going

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Speaker 3: to accidentally get pregnant. Keep trying, but uh, nobody doesn't stick,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, right, So, uh, I guess

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Speaker 3: that's the luxury of being gay is like we really

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Speaker 3: really don't we really do get to just like definitely

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Speaker 3: think about this decision very hard.

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Speaker 2: Right, no accidental like oops, I'm pregnant. What are you

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Speaker 2: doing now? You know It's like, no, that's not gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: I'm so dead. I love this. Are you Are you

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Speaker 1: close with with your siblings? Like, do you guys get

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Speaker 1: together and see each other or is it so your

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Speaker 1: schedules are so chaotic that it's like a well thought

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Speaker 1: out get together.

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Speaker 3: My sister was literally just said goodbye as I sat

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Speaker 3: were My sister she was literally just here as I

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Speaker 3: as I sat down, she was like, have a good podcast.

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Speaker 3: Like it's like we're very very close. We see each

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Speaker 3: other all the time, and you know, her life and

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Speaker 3: my life are just so crazy busy, but we always

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Speaker 3: find times like even on this last contract, yeah that

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Speaker 3: I was just doing like every Sunday night we had

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Speaker 3: dinner together. I came home, even if I got home

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Speaker 3: at like nine o'clock or whatever, Like I went straight

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Speaker 3: to her apartment. We had dinner together, and it was

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Speaker 3: just like it's just so important for me to have

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Speaker 3: those moments of connection with her, especially because we are

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Speaker 3: so close and because our lives are so crazy, right,

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Speaker 3: and how important family.

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Speaker 2: Is to both of us.

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Speaker 3: So we just spent all the time together mom my

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Speaker 3: mom was at the show with my husband and my

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Speaker 3: dog every weekend. So wow, I've also like been very

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Speaker 3: connected and great. And then yeah, they're all, you know,

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Speaker 3: my husband and my mom are outside waiting to play

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Speaker 3: a Lego party right now before I you know, go

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Speaker 3: to go see my friend in the show later.

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Speaker 2: So it's like we're very we're very close to family.

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Speaker 1: Can I tell you that makes me so happy, Frankie,

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Speaker 1: because I think what you said just resonated with me

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Speaker 1: of like I've accomplished what I what I want. And

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Speaker 1: I think when you're in this line of work, any

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Speaker 1: line of work, like you have your goals, but ultimately

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Speaker 1: once you reach them and you look at the bigger picture,

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Speaker 1: like all I really want is a peaceful, happy life

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Speaker 1: to around people who I really love and feel safe with.

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Speaker 1: Ye And the fact that you have, you've gotten to

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Speaker 1: where you've gotten to. Your sister is obviously who she is,

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Speaker 1: and you guys make time to remember real life and

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Speaker 1: what's important is so inspiring and amazing.

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Speaker 3: Oh, thank you and so welcome, so important because you

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Speaker 3: know in our line of where people.

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Speaker 2: Can spiral real quick. And I think the thing that.

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Speaker 3: Makes you not is that dedication to family and to

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Speaker 3: you know, really grounded relationships.

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Speaker 1: I fully agree with you.

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Speaker 3: These people have been with me since the beginning and

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Speaker 3: it's like, you know, we're just we're just you know,

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Speaker 3: Frankie and Ari when we're together, that.

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Speaker 2: Is so and it's lovely.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And you you've from from the womb to the

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Speaker 1: tomb baby?

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Speaker 2: Amen? Amen?

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Speaker 1: So what's next for you? Where are you headed next?

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Speaker 1: What are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm going out on tour. I'm so excited

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Speaker 2: about this.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be doing the sleigh Ride tour with the

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Speaker 3: icon Alyssa Edwards and the icon Corey King, who broke

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Speaker 3: the Internet once again for Halloween.

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Speaker 2: And we're gonna be going to several.

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Speaker 3: States Without Loud, which is this amazing production company that

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Speaker 3: is also has like a social agenda, which.

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Speaker 2: Will be with a human rights campaign.

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Speaker 3: We're going to be going into red and purple states

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Speaker 3: in addition to LA and we're gonna be bringing you know,

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Speaker 3: queer holiday cheer into places where maybe people's families suck.

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Speaker 3: I love this, so come be with us if your

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Speaker 3: family sucks, that's what I say. Come come celebrate with Frankie,

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Speaker 3: Corey and Alyssa.

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Speaker 1: Where can people find the dates for that?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be posting on an Instagram, so I'll just

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Speaker 3: go to my Instagram.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so to be at Frankie Grande on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Jay Grande, I know at Frankie J.

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Speaker 1: Grande, Frankie Jr. I love this so much. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: sign us off here, but I'm gonna keep you for

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Speaker 1: my boner episode. Oh you, guys, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for listening to another episode of Untraditionally La La with

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Speaker 1: my most favorite guests ever, Frankie Grande. Thank you, my love,

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Speaker 1: and I'll catch you guys on the bonus love you

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Speaker 1: booth the bonus word