1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: I am all in again. 2 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: How let's just you. 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 3: I am all in again with Scott Patterson and iHeartRadio podcast. 4 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,960 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I'm all in Podcasts. One of 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: them productions. I heart Media, iHeart Radio, iHeart Podcasts. They've 6 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: got a lot of titles. It's a big company. We 7 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: are going to recap season three, episode thirteen. Dear Emily 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: and Richard, and I am joined by the illustrious Jacqueline 9 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: Rodriguez and Suzanne French, formerly of the Intrepid Crew, who 10 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: continues to be an Intrepid Crew representative, but now she's 11 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: she's on the ball club. It's still Intrepid and there's 12 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: no question about it. 13 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: Uh. 14 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: And they're going to join me today to to recap this, uh, 15 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: this very moving episode. Sherry prepares to give birth and 16 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: Christophers to Christopher's daughter, and we see flashbacks of Laurel 17 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: and Chris, Christopher, a lot of flashbacks. Very very well done, 18 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: by the way. Meanwhile, Luke and Nicole start dating. Gilman 19 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: Cuso directed Amy Sherman Palladino wrote it, guys, what you 20 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: think over all the episode? Susan, what's just what do 21 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: you think of this? 22 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 2: I liked it. 23 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 4: I liked the flashbacks. It's that's always kind of a 24 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 4: nice little, I don't want to say gimmick, but kind 25 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 4: of a nice mechanism that shows can use to kind 26 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 4: of give the backstory. So it was interesting to kind 27 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 4: of see laurelized life and you really could see why 28 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,120 Speaker 4: she wanted to leave home with some of Emily's behavior. 29 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 4: But yeah, I thought it was it was a good episode. 30 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 2: I thought so too. 31 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: And I thought it was interesting that they use Sherry's 32 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 3: pregnancy or having her baby to the comparison of what 33 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 3: Laura I went through. And I thought that was interesting 34 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 3: that they did the flashbacks for that storyline because we 35 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 3: could have gotten this before, Like we could have gotten 36 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: this in season one, you know, but it's season three now, 37 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 3: so I thought that was in mid season episode thirteen. 38 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: So I thought that was good, And it was nice 39 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: to see the juxtaposition of you know, Chris. 40 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 2: And laural I look at the baby. 41 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 3: I mean, I know I'm going all the way to that, 42 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,680 Speaker 3: but it's like, that's what I think of, like those juxtapositions, 43 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 3: like Chris and Laura. 44 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 2: La and then Sherry and Laura light and the look 45 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: on Laura's face. 46 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: I don't know if you could, you could put those 47 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: characters or the audience in a more awkward position, right, Yes, 48 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: Then Laura I found herself in staring at Christopher's new 49 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,919 Speaker 1: baby and Christopher being just so over the moon about 50 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: it as one would be, even kissing her on the cheek, 51 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: and hey, I'm flying and yeah, you know where was 52 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: he sixteen? 53 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, he was completely oblivious to what she was going through, 54 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 4: which I mean is understandable, but still. 55 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 3: Because he wasn't there. He wasn't there for actual Rory's birth. Right, 56 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 3: she went in Lorlai went in by herself. No, correct, Okay, right. 57 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the whole Yeah, that was the contrast 58 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, I just thought, you know, this is 59 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: the this is the show that tells the story of 60 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 1: the foundation of this show. This is what this entire 61 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: show is built upon. And we we finally, after you know, 62 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: we're what midway into season three, get to look back 63 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: on what it was must have been like and actual reenactors. 64 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: We had Lorelei and Christopher reenactors. We had Emily in 65 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: a wig, we had Richard with dark hair, we had 66 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, we had these younger versions the sixteen years 67 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: prior versions of these characters, and it was I thought 68 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: very well done, very well done. 69 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 4: It was interesting to see how Chris and Lorelai kind 70 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: of started out. And I thought it was interesting because 71 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:16,039 Speaker 4: there's a few different episodes where we meet Christopher's parents 72 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 4: and they basically are blaming Lurlai for Christopher not going 73 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 4: to college. But we find out in this episode that 74 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 4: he had already decided not to go to college, Like 75 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 4: she didn't even know she was pregnant, so already decided 76 00:04:30,800 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 4: that I hadn't realized before. 77 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: I hadn't either. Yeah, Yeah, he was Jack Kirouac before anything. 78 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: And he was he was hitting the road. He was 79 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 1: going to Europe to sleep in the park, as Emily 80 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: Athlete put it, like a squirrel. 81 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: I like how they had that. 82 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: Also, like that storyline, that's where it came from. Like 83 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: we're getting a lot of origin stories of this, Like 84 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: the whole I packed up with worri Yeh was Loral 85 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 3: and Christopher's original idea. So I love the background. And 86 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 3: this made me wonder too, like they did with Jess 87 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: when he goes to Venice, you know, and we know 88 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: that was like the the try for the spin off, right, 89 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: could this have been like an idea for the spin off, 90 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 3: Like do you think that they would have Oh, let's 91 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 3: see how this episode is with the viewers, and if 92 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: they liked it, what if we can do a spinoff? 93 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 3: Because I would love to see that spinoff of you know, 94 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: Emily and Richard and in growing up in that house 95 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 3: and you know, like that would be it would have 96 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 3: been the pilot, that those flashbacks would have been the 97 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 3: pilot and then you know, and then take it from 98 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 3: there and you know, her going to the inn. I 99 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 3: mean we see a little bit, do Susanna, We see 100 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 3: when she arrives at the end, right. 101 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 4: We hear about it, but we don't they we don't 102 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 4: see it. 103 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: See that would have been that can be a spinoff, 104 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: you know, but I wonder if they even thought that. 105 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 4: But yeah, it could have been, like you know how 106 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 4: how young Sheldon spun off a theory like it could 107 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 4: have been like that kind of thing where he's like 108 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 4: a different set of actors and just portraying those characters 109 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: as younger people. That could have been. That could have 110 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 4: been good. 111 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was great writing, Like great writing. 112 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: Well. 113 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: I thought Rory is particularly funny in this episode. She 114 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: was so clumped at if that's the right word. Again, 115 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: being caught in these positions where she's the only one there, 116 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to go in. You know, the phone 117 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: call to her mom, her paniced phone call to her 118 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,720 Speaker 1: mother is like you got to get here. They're giving 119 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: me gloves, and it's like I've seen so many butts. 120 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: I've seen too many butts to you know. It's just 121 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: she's just really funny. She handled she handles the comedy 122 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: very very well. 123 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 5: Be my Bobby, right right, yeah good, I mean, yeah, 124 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 5: you think about this first, she's just like this high 125 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 5: school teenager, like being put in that situation with this 126 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 5: woman she doesn't really even know that well, and like, 127 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 5: let's go watch a baby come out of. 128 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 4: Her, Like that would be freaking her out. Like I 129 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 4: thought it was great. 130 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 3: I would react the same way if I was her age, 131 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 3: yeah exactly. 132 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 4: And like she's trying to be helpful, like she's making 133 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: phone calls and stuff for Sherry, like she doesn't know 134 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 4: what else to do, so she's just kind of trying 135 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 4: to follow along. 136 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: Right, right, And then Laurla gets pulled out of a 137 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: Friday night dinner mercifully and has to come in there 138 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: and rescue her daughter from potentially having to go into 139 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: the you know, into the into the delivery room. I know, 140 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: and still you know, and then Christopher shows up right, 141 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: and I don't know, there's just I like the young 142 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: I like the sixteen year old Christopher a lot better 143 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: than I do the grown up one. 144 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's true, because we were only getting inklings 145 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: of the sixteen year old Christopher, and he had so 146 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 3: much like I'm. 147 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: Going to Europe, I'm gonna do this. What do you 148 00:07:57,640 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 2: think about it? 149 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 3: Lord? Like? He had so much more like like pizzazz 150 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 3: to him and like life to him rather than you know. 151 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: Well, you know, now we see what his father is 152 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 1: like strobe strab strobe, strab strobe, and I mean if 153 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: he's if he's you know, justifiably he's irate at this situation. 154 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: But that guy, to me seems like he's very easy 155 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: to anger, very quick to anger, and he probably just 156 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: his son. Christopher just got sick of being abused by 157 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: his father verbally, abused and bullied verbally like just I 158 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,360 Speaker 1: don't want to go work for my I don't want 159 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: to go to college and deal with my dad. I 160 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: don't want to go work for him. And deal with 161 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:50,959 Speaker 1: my dad, this abusive, loud, acerbic guy. You know, I 162 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: don't want to go to Europe and escape and do 163 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: something else. I mean, can we just go raise the 164 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 1: baby and you know, let's it's just wow. 165 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 3: I'd be the same thing. I'd be like, peace out. 166 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 3: I'm not going to stay here with this guy. 167 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 6: What he suggested was horrendous, horrendous and Emily I like 168 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,719 Speaker 6: how she stuck up for Laura La you know, and 169 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 6: so and Richard, you know, like stood up and. 170 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 3: His presence again, his presence is like this is what 171 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: we'll do, you know, and I'm just oh, I just 172 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 3: snarled at the tavy like, oh you. 173 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 4: They were very much like Richard and Emily, like very controlling, 174 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 4: like this is this is what you're gonna do, and 175 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 4: you don't have any say in the matter. But yeah, 176 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 4: Strobe like was seeming and his wife like shut up, 177 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 4: like very abusive and just yeah really not. 178 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, and Christopher grew up around that. 179 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: You know, that's not the first time Strobe's been like that. 180 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: And he's like, I'm out of here, man, I don't 181 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: need this so exactly. Yeah, now I sympathize a little 182 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: more realizing that, you know, Christopher grew up in this 183 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: just horrible household. You know, no matter how much money you have, right, 184 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're witnessing your father doing that to 185 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: you and your mother every day, it's just like whoa. 186 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I get when he wanted 187 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 3: to leave, you know, and then you know he doesn't 188 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: have a. 189 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 2: Male figure that he could like, you know, realize what 190 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:20,080 Speaker 2: he's doing. 191 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 3: You know, when he you know, Loralai has the baby 192 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 3: and has worried and stuff, it's just right, he's just 193 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: trying to escape. 194 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 2: He's just trying to escape from the household he grew up. 195 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 3: But then he's doing the same I don't know about 196 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: the same mistakes because we don't know that much about 197 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 3: like his childhood, but it's like he has no he 198 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 3: has no model. 199 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 2: To go after. 200 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 4: You know. 201 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: It's just like another sort of iteration of a Huntsburger. 202 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: The wealthy men, the wealthy fathers in this show are 203 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: not depicted as being you know, barely human beings. You know, 204 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: they lack empathy, they lack feelings. They just tend to 205 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: crush people and bulldoze people. You know, and and you know, 206 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: richer it comes off better than both of those guys, 207 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: yet still he's considered to be extreme, right, yeah, so yeah. 208 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: The generational trauma that keeps passing on. You know, he's 209 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 3: going to break it, you. 210 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 4: Know, right does It's yeah, and those societal expectations that 211 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: you're going to follow this pattern whether you want to 212 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 4: or not. Like it's just with like all of them, 213 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 4: like you said, with Logan and Christopher and Laura, it's 214 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 4: like this is you know, the canducks have to be 215 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 4: six inches apart, and you know, bad things are going 216 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 4: to happen if they're not, like all the crazy rules 217 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 4: that are just imposed by by that society. 218 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was bad, very bad. 219 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: Well, you know that was you know, those narratives in 220 00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: this episode were nice little side dishes, but let's get 221 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: to the beating heart of this episode. Luke is reading 222 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: a book and the resident just kidding. 223 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: No, that's like the nice it's the levity we have 224 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 3: so much heavy with that, and then it's so nice 225 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 3: that we have Luke Steiner and Kirk and Jess and Dean. 226 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 2: I mean, like it's just the more levity of. 227 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 3: It, you know, like it's not as heavy because and 228 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 3: that's what That's what Amy Sherman did on this episode. 229 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: It's like, I like that episode between Dean and I'm 230 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: liking Dean more and more and just less and less. 231 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, these are bad Jess episodes. 232 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: These are not These are not good for Jess, are they. 233 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 1: He's just coming off like just he's he's so punk. Yeah, 234 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,439 Speaker 1: he's just such a punk. And Dean is just holding 235 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 1: standing his ground and smiling and having fun controlling him. 236 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: And you know it's time to be a professional and 237 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: take my order and don't screw it up. You know, 238 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:45,839 Speaker 1: you know this isn't about you and me right now 239 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: that you want to you want to step outside and 240 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: sudden he goes, I'd love to after we finish ordering. 241 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, right, Nichols on the side of what you know, 242 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 3: they did so good and that likes them too. Mm hmm. 243 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: Hey, kids, listen, I wanted to give you a little 244 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: information on my convention schedule San Antonio, Texas, and that 245 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: is called a Stars Hollow Valentines. So Sean Gun and 246 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 1: I will be there and other Gilmour people February fourteenth 247 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:26,719 Speaker 1: and fifteenth, san Antonio, Texas, and we are going to 248 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: be in Richmond, Virginia, Galaxy Con March nineteen twenty and 249 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 1: twenty one. And then hey, y'allup Washington rewind Con in 250 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: Washington State and that is March twenty eighth and twenty ninth, Greenville, 251 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: South Carolina Comic Con April eleventh and twelfth, Manchester, UK 252 00:13:55,040 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: April eighteen nineteen, New Orleans, Louisiana Gallaxicon July eleventh and twelfth. 253 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: And then I'll there's more to come. San Jose August 254 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 1: twenty two to twenty three. That's a Galaxy Con as 255 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: well a San Jose Galaxy Con. So a lot coming up. 256 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: I'll fill you in on the rest of it. There's more. 257 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 1: It's a busy convention year for the kid here, so 258 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: hope to see everybody out there. Much love. So Luke 259 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: and Nicole, what do we think of Luke all cleaned 260 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: up and going out on a date. And that was 261 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: a pretty pretty raucous funny scene with Lurlei pointing at 262 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 1: Nicole who was on her cell phone and Luke trying 263 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: to hold her arms down. 264 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 2: Oh, I thought it was hilarious. I thought it was 265 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 2: so funny because she's just. 266 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 3: Like the sofa and this because we're all thinking it 267 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 3: we're all thinking it, Lauraai. 268 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 2: We're all thinking it. 269 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 3: And you guys' physical comedy was so on point in 270 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: that little like ten seconds that you guys. 271 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 2: You can just tell that you guys were having. 272 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: Fun filming that. Like it was just silly and it 273 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 3: made me laugh. And so and it's interesting because it's like, also, 274 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 3: Luke the character would never allow that for anybody else. 275 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: But he's trying to be fancy. He's trying to read 276 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: a book to like, you know, like he feels he 277 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 3: needs up his game with Nicole because she's a lawyer. 278 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 3: And I'm just like, you know, like, and then he's 279 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 3: been silly with Loralai. I'm like, I prefer the silly 280 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: Laura life like stuff. 281 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 2: You know, it's just good. It was so good. 282 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 3: I like, again, this is the juxtaposition they're showing and 283 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 3: a lot in this whole episode. I think that's the 284 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 3: whole thing. It's like the juxtaposition of Emily and Richard 285 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 3: and Laura and then you know, Sherry, Christopher and Laurai 286 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: and then now this like Lorlai and Luke and then 287 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 3: now Nicole and Luke, and so I'm like, oh. 288 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: Here we go. 289 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: Laura's getting it from all sides is her baby father 290 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: is having another baby with another woman, and then her 291 00:15:56,200 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: dude Luke sort of non dude dude aiding someone else, right. 292 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 6: Non dude dude, non dude dude. 293 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: That was good. That was good. 294 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, she takes it in stride, right, Yeah. 295 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 2: She does. It was really funny. I thought it was. 296 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 3: Good, and I like, yeah, Nicole, I think is just 297 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: kind of like, I don't really know much about her, 298 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 3: so I'm not really invested, which I. 299 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 4: Think was intentional, Like they don't really tell us that 300 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 4: much of her backstory because I think she's really just 301 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 4: meant to be like kind of a distraction to delay 302 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 4: Luke and LORELEI doing whatever they're going to do. So 303 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 4: she she comes off as kind of flat to me, 304 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 4: but I don't know, I mean, she's okay. It's kind 305 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 4: of nice to see Luke at the beginning of a relationship, 306 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,040 Speaker 4: Like we saw him with Rachel, but that was already 307 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 4: that was kind of a resumption of an established relationship, 308 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 4: so it's kind of something different to see Luke at 309 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 4: the beginning of a relationship. It was kind of cute. 310 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's like he's he's investing, you know, like 311 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: researching because we all know he researches and to you know, 312 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 3: see see her face, you know. In the later episodes 313 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 3: with Lorlai, you know, he reads a book, he's listening 314 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 3: to a tape, like he's like, Okay, I gotta like learn, 315 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 3: I gotta learn about how what I can do in 316 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 3: this relationship. And I like that he goes the extra 317 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: mile for his relationships and that's just who he is, 318 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 3: you know, and so I like that he. 319 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 4: And I think that might also because Loralai is with 320 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 4: Alex at this point, so he might kind of see that, 321 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 4: oh I missed that opportunity again. You know, maybe I 322 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:35,120 Speaker 4: need to like improve my skills somehow so that these 323 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 4: relationships won't keep getting away from me. 324 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's trying. He's trying to see you know, like, 325 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 2: oh she's she's trying. She's dating someone else. Let me 326 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: see what I you know, like like go. 327 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: Fishing in the pond, you know, like, yeah, we see 328 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 3: what's out there, you know. 329 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 2: And I mean we all. 330 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 3: Know we want them together, but you know, like, yeah, 331 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 3: I like that they're you know, you got to date 332 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 3: all the kiss all the frogs, find the prince, you. 333 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: Know, right, you got to make sure, yeah, and Jess 334 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: had a good moment. There's just you know when they 335 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: get back from their day and he says, I'm going 336 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: to go out now for about an hour, about an 337 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: hour hour, about an hour. 338 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 2: I love it thirty at night. 339 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: I love it thirty a night. 340 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 3: What do you mean? 341 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: What do you mean an hour? 342 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 4: Gone for about an hour? 343 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 3: He's not getting No, he's totally not It's always the 344 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 3: concern is the first thing. It's like, that's not safe, 345 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 3: you can't go out there. And then I didn't get 346 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 3: it though, when they were like pre outside in the window, 347 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 3: Like didn't get it, okay, because I thought that was 348 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: so funny. 349 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 2: I loved it. And Nicole is looking and then Kirk's 350 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 2: in the back He's like. 351 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, but he's not going to take the cole upstairs 352 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: and oh and do the deed. You know, we had 353 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: a good date. I mean, that's why you just got 354 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: smacked in the head, right, what are you thinking about? 355 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 4: Just is thinking about it from the teenage perspective they 356 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 4: have done. 357 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: It was so good. It was very cute. 358 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,120 Speaker 3: I get you had these moments Luke at him like 359 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: you with Scott, But I mean, you know, you look 360 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 3: at these moments where he's like doing this with like 361 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 3: lor Lyon's like then he's doing that with you know, 362 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 3: leaving his arms with Jess. I thought it was a 363 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,719 Speaker 3: very good Luke was a very good like like comic 364 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 3: relief and levity of this episode, you know, with everything 365 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 3: else in the flashbacks and stuff. 366 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: So and then Rory too, of. 367 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: Course, all right, I have a bone to pick with 368 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: Melissa McCarthy. 369 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 2: Where is she? She's not in this episode. 370 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she's in one scene and we see that 371 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:34,479 Speaker 1: the they're throwing a party at the Dragonfly, Yes, and 372 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: the guy it's a golf themed party, and the guy 373 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: is you know, keeps changing his mind. He keeps changing 374 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: the theme, so they they have to cancel all the 375 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 1: golf themed decorations. And and then Loralai opens the door 376 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: to the kitchen and gives Suki the look like he 377 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 1: changes mind again. And she has this giant golf ball 378 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: cake and she just dumps it in the garbage. Wait 379 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: a minute, wait, what are you doing? That's a good cake. 380 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: You could everybody is slice right in right, Yeah, don't 381 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,719 Speaker 1: watch that episode if you're hungry. I was very hungry. 382 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: I was, and I ran I got a piece of cake. 383 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: Actually after I saw that. Okay, guys, let's let's talk 384 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:25,919 Speaker 1: about this. 385 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: Should Laura l I have. 386 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: Gone to the hospital in the first place? I mean, 387 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: can you deny your daughter? 388 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? 389 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: She went for Ryeah, she went for Rory, and she 390 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,160 Speaker 1: got hit in the face with memories. Yeah, and not 391 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:45,919 Speaker 1: necessarily good ones. Yeah, you know, and but maybe the 392 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: greatest memory mixed in with the greatest memory of her 393 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 1: life is having Rory. 394 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 395 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 3: That's why she looked when she's looking at the gig, 396 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,360 Speaker 3: you know, she says, she's the second Rory was perfect, 397 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 3: you know, like. 398 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. 399 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:00,239 Speaker 2: Yeah, she couldn't not go. 400 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: You made sure Christopher knew that. 401 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 2: Yeah he did. 402 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: The second place. 403 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, because he was kind of being a jerk 404 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 4: about it, like not intentionally, but he's acting like this 405 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,040 Speaker 4: is the first kid he's ever had. And yeah, he 406 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 4: wasn't at Rory's birth, but he's he's still just kind 407 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 4: of not paying attention to what is going on with 408 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 4: Laura I. 409 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: He's so unconscious. 410 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 4: Well, and it it kind of what kind of bugged 411 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 4: me is that when he when Laurel I and Rory 412 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 4: were on the couch in the lobby and he comes 413 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 4: out and he's like, oh, you know, it's over, she's here. 414 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 4: He takes he tells Laura, He's like, oh, let Rory sleep, 415 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,479 Speaker 4: We'll we'll show her later. Like the whole reason that 416 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 4: they were there was so that Rory could see her 417 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 4: little sister. But he only cared about showing Laura. I like, 418 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 4: he wasn't even giving a thought to Rory. And that 419 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 4: kind of bugged me too. It was like, let you know, 420 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 4: come here, Laurela. I let's let me show off my 421 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 4: new baby to you, and we'll just leave Rory on 422 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 4: the couch, even though that's the only reason you're even 423 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 4: here is because Rory. It just he just always, I 424 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 4: don't know, he always puts Rory on the back burner. 425 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 4: And I hate that. 426 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 2: I didn't mean notice that. That's a good point. That's 427 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 2: a good point. 428 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of always bugged me about the episode. 429 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: Well yeah, he's always yeah exactly. 430 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 3: It's just these little moments show like how he's handled 431 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 3: being an absentee. 432 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:26,679 Speaker 4: Father to Rory. 433 00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 2: You know, it's like, oh, let me show Yeah, I 434 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 2: never noticed that. 435 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like she's just never foremost in his thoughts. 436 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 2: It's always, yeah, it's always. 437 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 1: It's it's really at the point and demonstrably so. It's 438 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: really at the point where you almost feel like Rory 439 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: dodged a bullet by by by Christopher being so absent 440 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 1: in her life. Like that's a good thing, you know 441 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: that you have to put that in the win column. 442 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: Had that clown been involved in her life at any 443 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: level with any real consistency, would not have maybe not 444 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: have been such a good thing, right. 445 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 2: Because it's true he would have like it. 446 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 3: You know, you want your I played volleyball in high 447 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 3: school and I you know, like my dad. 448 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,199 Speaker 2: Worked in the evenings and when he came he it 449 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 2: was like great, he was like, oh, you made a game. 450 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 2: You know. 451 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 3: I imagine like Laura lies in debate club and she's at 452 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 3: debate and he doesn't show up because he's like puts 453 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 3: he you know. 454 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: Something happens. 455 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 3: I imagine him being that kind of dad and to 456 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: you know, like feel that disappointment of like not being 457 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 3: supported by one of your parents. I guess, yeah, I 458 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: never realized that, Yeah, totally dodged a bullet. 459 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you want to have a father that's 460 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: in and out of your life, and you know he 461 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: shows up once in a while, but most of the time, No, 462 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: that's bad. Yeah, yeah, might as well just f off 463 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: and stay gone, right. 464 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's what Laura I did for her, right. 465 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, that's exactly the gift that Laura I gave 466 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: her daughter is she told Christopher stay away. Yeah, you're 467 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: not a part this. That's the best move she ever made. 468 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: That's why that girl, that's why that girl is so strong. 469 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:08,120 Speaker 2: I think it. 470 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 4: Would have been interesting to see because in the flashbacks, 471 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 4: we see when she's born and then the next flashback 472 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 4: is a year later when Lorlai has left, and I 473 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 4: think it would be interesting to see what happened in 474 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 4: that first year of Rory's life, Like how involved was 475 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 4: Christopher Because Lorlai didn't leave with Christopher, she left by herself, 476 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 4: So what happened there, Like did he not want to 477 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 4: leave after all? Or you know, I don't know. I 478 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 4: just think it would be interesting to see, like how 479 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 4: involved was Christopher in that first year. 480 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: That would be season one of the spin off. 481 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 3: Called Lorlai Gilmore, the Gilmore Girl, you know, the Gilmore Girl. 482 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: I would venture a guess that he was not involved 483 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:58,360 Speaker 1: at all. 484 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it could be Suzanne. 485 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 3: Did we know do we know Christopher left on that 486 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: trip right after Loralai had Rory. 487 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 2: I don't think so, right. 488 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 4: I don't really know anything about We know he at 489 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 4: some point wound up in California, but we don't know 490 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 4: like what happened in the interim. We just know he 491 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 4: was kind of floating around and yeah he wasn't Yeah, 492 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 4: they didn't really go into you know, he didn't go 493 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:27,919 Speaker 4: to college and he went to California. But beyond that, 494 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 4: they didn't get it. 495 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, prequel please. 496 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 4: Yeah exactly. That would be pretty cool. 497 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 2: That would be so amazing. 498 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it just even in his finest hour 499 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: with a new baby, he still managed to deliver the douchiness. 500 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: It's just unbelievable, right right, he just help it. 501 00:25:58,240 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 2: I can't. 502 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: I know, I know, I know, and and Lauren did 503 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 3: such a great job. And I know, like you guys 504 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 3: would mention face acting a lot like in the first 505 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:10,639 Speaker 3: seas that spin around, like the face that she like 506 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 3: when they're looking at the baby, and then. 507 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: As Sugarman, Yes, the face face acting is a Sugarman invention. 508 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 2: But it's like, again, you don't need to be a new. 509 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:26,919 Speaker 1: Category in the in the Oscars nine Best face acting. 510 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, well give it retroactive to the Emmy 511 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 3: to Lauren. 512 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,879 Speaker 1: So you're saying, you're saying, Lauren now is excelling at 513 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,359 Speaker 1: the face acting the art of face acting. 514 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, in this episode, her face acting is is number one. 515 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, when they were standing at that window in the nursery, 516 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 4: you could totally see all of the thoughts she's having 517 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 4: just on her face. 518 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it was great. And then even when you 519 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 2: know she comes in to help Sherry, Sherry. 520 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 3: Bugged in this episode like I'm like, girl. 521 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: But please relax, Like it made me. 522 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 3: Nervous, you know, but you know she's out of her mind. 523 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 3: Didn't understand least that she's about to have baby. 524 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: But what do you think when you were pregnant, Susanne? 525 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: It was the first time was was that? Was that 526 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: a reasonable depiction of of a woman a giving birth? 527 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: I know it's different for different women, but I had 528 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: I had. 529 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 4: A sixteen hour labor and then had a C section, 530 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 4: So I was not thinking about work even for one second. 531 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,120 Speaker 4: I'm not making phone calls, I was not asking anything. 532 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 4: I wasn't even thinking about work. So I don't know. 533 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 4: And they kind of changed her story because remember when 534 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 4: we first met Sherry, they said, they said that, you know, 535 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 4: she wanted kids so bad that she was thinking about 536 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 4: just having kids on her own without you know, being 537 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 4: in a relationship. And so now all of a sudden, 538 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 4: she suddenly hates kids, not hates kids, but like they 539 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 4: established that she's not a baby person, and yeah, they 540 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 4: kind of changed the character a little, like. 541 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,719 Speaker 3: It's interrupting her plans of being a career woman and 542 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 3: like that marine girl. 543 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,159 Speaker 2: I mean, she she messed up. She messed up. And 544 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 2: I'm just like, okay, as someone who. 545 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 3: Had an unexpected early birth with my son because he 546 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 3: came at seven months, like I just try to stay calm, 547 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 3: like because I didn't. I mean I remember going to 548 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 3: the hospital at four am on fourth of July and 549 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 3: being like, okay, I'm only seven months pregnant, Like what's 550 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 3: happening And the doctor was like was like, uh, you're 551 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 3: not leaving here without a baby, and I'm like, I'm 552 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 3: only seven months pregnant. So that's a whole different episode, 553 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 3: and you know, dealing with that trauma and all that. 554 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: But he's healthy, he's fine, he's okay. 555 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 3: But but yeah, I tried, I don't relate to share 556 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 3: it at all, like being crazy like that. 557 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 2: I just tried to stay calm and just like nodded 558 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 2: my head and just like breathe, you know, and stay calm. 559 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, especially in that situation because you're worried about like 560 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 4: the medical aspects of it and colors, you know, what 561 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 4: could happen. So yeah, it's yeah, but even like mine 562 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 4: was with my son, who also was I went into 563 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 4: labor on fourth of July, so yeah, he was born 564 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 4: on July fifth, but labor, I still like, wasn't thinking 565 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 4: about work at all. 566 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, same, yeah, yeah, same. 567 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 4: I know. 568 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 3: I think I sent a text to Danielle and been 569 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 3: like I'm in labor, okay, and she took me like 570 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 3: off all the group chats and stuff like that, because 571 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 3: it was again a big surprise. I mean, like I 572 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 3: was both had my baby shower two weeks later. You know, 573 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 3: it was like so, I mean, like you, it was 574 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 3: just one text and it was it was fine, but 575 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 3: no work, no, no, no. 576 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: Let's kind of dive back into these flashbacks. You know. 577 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: The one thing that really stood out for me in 578 00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: the flashbacks is just how annoying Emily was, back to 579 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: how overbearing, how inappropriate, how angry. She was that she 580 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,719 Speaker 1: just could not handle this situation with any kind of 581 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: human decency and just it's just screaming, full throated screaming 582 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: at her daughter as she's going into a delivery room. Yeah, 583 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: and Richard worried about his shoes. 584 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 4: And yeah, that was an interesting contrast. 585 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,239 Speaker 1: Trying trying to trying to control this, you know, his 586 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: wife who was just like just it was just so abusive. 587 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: I mean the hospital staff. I mean, if something like 588 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: that happened today, you know, hospital staff would might call 589 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: the cops on that she did. 590 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: She was like, you need to leave, like the protective 591 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 2: door line. 592 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like that is a person who is 593 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 1: in a let's let's call what it is, a life 594 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 1: threatening suitchuation. If that doesn't go well, I mean, you 595 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: can lose your life in that delivery room things don't 596 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: go well, and the baby too. Yeah, here's Emily, you know, 597 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: her contribution to her own daughter's comfort and her her 598 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: moment of true need is to be screamed a horrible 599 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: So that is there you go. I mean again, that's 600 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: like a female strobe yes, and like, let's get away 601 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: from that and stay away from that exactly. 602 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 4: And she even said at one point, She's like, it's 603 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 4: my right to drive my daughter to the hospital, like 604 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 4: she always makes it about herself and Richard, but neither 605 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 4: one of them had a single thought for Laura I. 606 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 4: Richard was concerned about his shoes and Emily was only 607 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 4: concerned that you know, she didn't get brought in earlier. 608 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 4: Like neither one of them had a single care for 609 00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 4: Laura I. And so we really can see she could 610 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 4: just detach herself from the family and just you know, 611 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 4: like they said on Friends, she just lives right out 612 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 4: like you know, she could. 613 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: Just her parents are monsters. Yeah they are not, They're 614 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: barely human. Yeah, I mean these are these are monstrous 615 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: people and their needs are disgusting and it's I've never 616 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: seen it. 617 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 4: So yeah, they're they're not good parents at all. 618 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,640 Speaker 3: Now we have like the empathy for I mean a 619 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 3: little bit mister, but a lot for Lurla, you know, 620 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: like like of why they made the choices that they did. 621 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 3: And I thought that was really good to like visually 622 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,080 Speaker 3: see it because that's the catalyst of the show. 623 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, now now we can see it. 624 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,320 Speaker 3: And they did a really good job with like showing 625 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 3: how horrendous they were, right. 626 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: Amy, Sharon Pellagino really does not like the rich. Well, 627 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: I mean she created a great contrast. 628 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 2: Between these two exactly exactly. 629 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: It's a really it's a really fabulous tension, yes, really fabulous. 630 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 1: But that was so over the top. 631 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 3: It was just like, yeah, yeah, she does do a 632 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 3: good job of detaching herself, Laura I does. At that age, 633 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 3: you know, sixteen, she goes in the hospital, you know, 634 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 3: like by herself, you know, And it just shows you 635 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 3: the strength of Laura as well, and what it took 636 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 3: for her to leave, you know, to leave that household, 637 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 3: and the strength, you know, how strong of a woman 638 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 3: she is to raise her daughter at sixteen and show 639 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 3: up to an inn. 640 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 2: You know, she had no choice, yeah, exactly. 641 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: It was either that or go live with Satan. No thanks. Yeah, 642 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: in the gardening shit right, it starts. 643 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 2: All up, I mean exactly exactly. 644 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's better than living with the devil herself. 645 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 4: It shows you how bad it must have been because 646 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 4: she had all of her physical needs met and but 647 00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 4: she wasn't getting her emotional needs met. And so think 648 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 4: about how how bad it must have been for her 649 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 4: to think, Okay, running away with my infant daughter is 650 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,239 Speaker 4: better than staying here Like that just shows how bad 651 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 4: it really was. It wasn't like she just made this 652 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 4: decision like now off the cup. It was like clearly 653 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 4: going to live in a's shed with better decision. That 654 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 4: shows just how terrible it was. 655 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: Unless you do exactly what we want you to do, 656 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: unless you turn out exactly the way we want you 657 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: to turn out, which is exactly like us. Unless you 658 00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:59,479 Speaker 1: do those things, we will destroy you. And that's really 659 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,880 Speaker 1: the bargain. And that Richard and Emily struck with their own, 660 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,279 Speaker 1: their only child. 661 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 2: Mm hmmm mm hmm. It's insane. 662 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 3: And it shows you Mama bear strength, you know, rest 663 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 3: with you know, maybe Emily didn't have this with hers, 664 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 3: but he shows you like mama bear strength. 665 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:19,799 Speaker 1: With her. 666 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not putting my child through this. 667 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 1: I tell you. Talk about giving a you know, a 668 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: lead character of a show, uh, the nuclear fuel needed 669 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: to fight the good fight. Yeah, and to be beloved 670 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: for it. So I mean, wow, yeah, great setup? 671 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 2: Great, Yes, great setup. I want a prequel? 672 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 4: Well yeah, going going back to the tying into the 673 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 4: prequel idea, I guess there's a lot of people that 674 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 4: have sympathy for Emily because they think, well, she just 675 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 4: that's how she was raised, and she just acts the 676 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 4: only way that she knows how to act, which is 677 00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 4: kind of the other side of the corner. So it 678 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 4: would be interesting to see how maybe Emily like her 679 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 4: earlier years And is that a reflection really of her 680 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,799 Speaker 4: upbringing art or is it not, because you know, she's 681 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 4: just she's just so, she's just meat. 682 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: What could produce such a rigid person? And I mean 683 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: her mother probably beat her over the head with a 684 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:25,720 Speaker 1: shoe every day because a hair was out of place, 685 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: or there was a piece of cloth on, you know, 686 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: a stitch that she didn't notice that came undone on 687 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: her suit or whatever, jack. 688 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,800 Speaker 2: A suit jacket. 689 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 3: I'm thinking of the time when Emily's mother, like Lorde 690 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 3: learned that all of that was that probably the forties, 691 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 3: Like you know, it's like everybody is of their time, 692 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 3: you know, like right, So I just think like it's 693 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 3: generational of the time of like when you grew up 694 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,320 Speaker 3: in the society, you know, like all that stuff, you know. 695 00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: I think I think media medium severe trauma is passed 696 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 1: on a lot easier than any other traditions. So I 697 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: think that from generation to generations. So I think that 698 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 1: Emily must have come from some very severe trauma to 699 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 1: end up like this and treating her daughter like that. 700 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like she hated her. She like loathed 701 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: her own daughter. And that is a phenomenon that a 702 00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: lot of children experience that their parents actually hate them, 703 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,320 Speaker 1: or one of their parents hates them or is jealous 704 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 1: of them, or doesn't think that they're particularly swift in 705 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: certain areas and they let them know about it. I mean, 706 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: there's some horrible parenting going on, and it's just you know, 707 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: in loralized case, it just it presented itself as as 708 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 1: a very easy option to avoid, you know, just like 709 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,479 Speaker 1: got it. In order to thrive, you got to cut 710 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: that off, walk away, And just I'm surprised she didn't 711 00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 1: go farther from home. You know, that's a California story, right, 712 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: Like you go, you go three thousand miles away to 713 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: get away from that level of evil, right, Yeah, but 714 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 1: then we wouldn't have had Gilmore, I know, right, right. 715 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,439 Speaker 3: So many people relate to this, Like you said, it's 716 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 3: like it's so beloved because so many people can relate 717 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 3: to this, and it's just the legacy of this show 718 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 3: is because of we're seeing ourselves. 719 00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: Portrayed back to us, right, so that's why we. 720 00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: Well, I think Laura, I think a sixteen year old 721 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: Laura I with a baby, is in such desperate straits 722 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: that she had to take the first option, and that 723 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: was you know Mia. I mean, I mean, what what 724 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: is the story of her, you know, showing up at 725 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: the Dragonfly and doing what? What? How did she end 726 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: up at the Dragonfly and how did she how how 727 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: did Mia come into her life? 728 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 4: Yeah? The Independence in Fort. 729 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: The Independence in first for the Dragonfly. So that's where 730 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: she left Hartford to get away from Satan. She ended 731 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,959 Speaker 1: up and stars hollow at the Independence in somehow, right, 732 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,120 Speaker 1: she meets Mia, and Mia takes her in and takes 733 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 1: pity on her and helps her out, and that's that's 734 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:14,720 Speaker 1: the story. 735 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 4: Like she basically just wandered in there and asked for 736 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 4: a job, like she knew she had to somehow make 737 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 4: a living instead. Yeah, so she wanders in with her 738 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 4: baby and it's like, do you have a job? So right, 739 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 4: I mean that's pretty ballsy, you know. And again it 740 00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,520 Speaker 4: just points to how desperate she was to get out 741 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,960 Speaker 4: of that house because a lot of teenagers wouldn't. 742 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: Do that, So she couldn't have gone that far from 743 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: Hartford because she had her baby to take care of 744 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 1: and she had to. 745 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 3: Do it fun but yeah, and it's like, you know, 746 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 3: you have to carry your baby and your maybe a bag. 747 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 2: Of clothes and all that. 748 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 3: And yeah, Mia tells the story when Emily goes and 749 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 3: visits the Independence in right, and she's like she showed up, 750 00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:57,760 Speaker 3: you know, and then explains the story. And then Emily 751 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,040 Speaker 3: asked for photos. You know, yeah, I remember that. 752 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,000 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. 753 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:02,719 Speaker 2: That was good. 754 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:04,720 Speaker 1: You imagine being so wrong. 755 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, wow. And she never sees it, like she never 756 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 4: she gets close to it a couple of times, but 757 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 4: Emily never really sees it. I don't think, yeah wow, 758 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 4: she never takes responsibility for her role in the relationship. 759 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 4: It's always laurelized fault. 760 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: Powerful episode. It was really powerful. This is a very 761 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 1: this is this might be the most powerful episode. 762 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:32,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 763 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: I mean it's it's just answering all those origin questions. Yeah, 764 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,839 Speaker 1: we get her, And that was that was very well done. 765 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 1: Those two actors were really good. 766 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:42,359 Speaker 4: Yeah. 767 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,800 Speaker 1: I thought that that actress really captured laurelized youthful spirit. 768 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: You know, she did the recklessness, the rebellion, the intelligence, 769 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:56,239 Speaker 1: you know, the likability, all of that, and and and 770 00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: that kid played a great Christopher. I like the young 771 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 1: I like the six ten year old Christopher better. Right, 772 00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: I think we all just now I see it's like, yeah, 773 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: get away from that Strobe and you get away from 774 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: that Emily, and we're gonna do it in Europe, and yeah, 775 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,479 Speaker 1: be squirrels and sleep in the park and we're gonna 776 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 1: figure it out together somehow. Yeah, you started out with 777 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: good intentions, but you know, I guess he just didn't 778 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: grow into it anyway. Uh. Final thoughts, Jackie, Oh. 779 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,280 Speaker 2: Great episode. I love the origin. 780 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 3: I love just getting, like you said, getting your answers 781 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 3: question or getting our questions answered. 782 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 2: And then again, I want to see the prequel. That's 783 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 2: my thing. 784 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 3: This this gave me a taste and I'm like, no, 785 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,520 Speaker 3: let's do some more with this, or like a movie 786 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 3: like like Lord Greb keep saying to Christmas. 787 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 2: Movie, Well, why don't we have like, you know, like 788 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 2: one prequel movie or something like I don't know whatever. 789 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,040 Speaker 1: Thrown it out there, Susanne. 790 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 4: Again, I agree. I thought it was a great episode. 791 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 4: And I one other quick note. We didn't really get 792 00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 4: into the storyline, but the whole sub story with the 793 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 4: DVD player. I thought that was that was a good 794 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 4: way to close the episode because we have all this 795 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 4: super heavy stuff and then it kind of like lightens 796 00:42:14,120 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 4: up at the end with you know, them bonding over 797 00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 4: the DVDs and Laurel I's gonna go install the DVD players. 798 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 4: So I thought that was nice. Laurela I made, you know, 799 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,200 Speaker 4: an attempt to kind of get to know Emily a 800 00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 4: little bit better. So I thought it was a great 801 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 4: way to kind of end that episode with all of 802 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 4: the heaviness with just a little sort of yeah. 803 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 2: Oh, and about those DVDs. 804 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 3: When she was listing off like Footlooth, Flash Dance, I 805 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 3: thought she was gonna list Dirty Dancing, and that would 806 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,799 Speaker 3: have been like a nice nod to Kelly Bishop, and 807 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,279 Speaker 3: she could have like looked at the DVD and would 808 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 3: have been like, Oh, I love that movie. 809 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 2: It's dirty Dancing. That would be cool. 810 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, that would be cool because that's of that era, 811 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 3: you know, those dance movies. 812 00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, that you're right, Susanna. 813 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,360 Speaker 3: The DVD was then it was nice because it's a 814 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,479 Speaker 3: j exposition of what their relationship was back then so. 815 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 2: It was good. 816 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 1: Anyway, really enjoyed it. Thank you Jackie, Thank you Suzanne 817 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 1: for filling in. We had Brad Pitt was coming in, 818 00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: but he had to cancel. 819 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I would die if Brad Pitt showed 820 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 3: up in her. 821 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,200 Speaker 1: We finally booked Brad Pitt, and then, you know, I grew. 822 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,919 Speaker 3: Up with a poster of that man on my on 823 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 3: my wall, Legends of the Fall and Leona DiCaprio. 824 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 2: I would freak out, like, yeah, I had the legend 825 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 2: the long hair, Oh my god, yeah, Oh my gosh. 826 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:45,120 Speaker 3: Anyways, Brad Pitt, come on by anyway. 827 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: We're going to reschedule Brad. His dance cards pretty full. 828 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: We'll get him on here one day. 829 00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 2: One day. 830 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll be speechless and I won't be I'll 831 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:57,640 Speaker 1: be tongue tied. 832 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 2: I won't be able to Yeah, I think we all 833 00:43:59,360 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 2: will be. 834 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: Anyway, it was a lot of fun. I could see 835 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: you guys, and I don't know, I'm gonna talk to 836 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk to sugar Man. Maybe make this a thing, 837 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 1: what do you think, Well, I mean, they'll make it 838 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: like a regular thing. I enjoyed this anyway, Thanks everybody 839 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 1: for downloads, keep the cards and letters coming, and best 840 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: fans on the planet. I'll see in Nashville. Then the 841 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 1: following week I'll be abe San Antonio, and then I've 842 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: been in being Richmond, and then I'm going to be 843 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,480 Speaker 1: in England, and then I'm gonna be in Germany, and 844 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna be back in the States, and it's 845 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: all over the place. Oh, my traveler, the traveler, the 846 00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: weekend traveler. Come to see all your great fans, best 847 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 1: fans on the planet. 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