1 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Ronan, I got a letter this week and this is 2 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: how it's addressed. Car Doctors, Prospects Street, Waldwick, New Jersey. 3 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: That's all it says. That means that the Post Office, 4 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: a branch of the federal government, has designated and recognized 5 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: me as the car Doctor, the car doctor. And now 6 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: we drag out the oil change. Now we extend that 7 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: oil change interval and guess what happens. We wear out 8 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: the cam journal, we wear out the cam bearing, and 9 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: we create engine problems. Welcome to the radio home of 10 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: ron Andanian the Car Doctor, since this is where car 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 13 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your calls 15 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 1: at eight five five five six and now he running. Hey, 16 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: start your engines. Thanks for stopping by the garage today. 17 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm Ronanindy and the card Doctor here at five zero 18 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero, the one I only know Bologna. 19 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: Here at Car Doctors show dot com as well. If 20 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 1: you're looking for more information about the show and just 21 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: in general, how to get ahold of us during the week. 22 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,520 Speaker 1: You can also call that eight five, five, five, six 23 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero phone number seven the numbers there 24 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: with a recorded message and Tom Ray or Motorhead Matt 25 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: will pick up the phone and call you back and 26 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: get you in lineup in queue for the next live 27 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: broadcast as we motor out on in the year waves today, 28 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: this week, this week? Is it this week? Guy's Tony 29 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: shaking and said, yes, he's got a mouthful of sandwich. 30 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: He's always eating this guy. Um, I think he's bulking up. 31 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: He wants to go replace Eric Flowers on the line 32 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 1: for the Giants. But you know it's, um well, they 33 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: do need some help fellas. I mean, you know it 34 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: is it is becoming a parent, is it you see 35 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: this button here him? Is it Flowers or is it 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: the rest of them? Which one is? Um well, Tony's 37 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: got a comment here all of the above. Yeah, it's 38 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: because Elie is not doing a bad job. It wasn't Eli. 39 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: The receivers need to catch catch the ball and the 40 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: block is on the offensive line need to learn how 41 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 1: to block. Now, I want to tell you guys something, 42 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: So I want to show you how pro giant I 43 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: am I'm working on I know a guy in Jersey. 44 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: In Jersey, you don't know people in Jersey, it's you 45 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: know a guy, it's you know a guy thing. I 46 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 1: know a guy. Now we kind of break bread every 47 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: once in a while. And he's talking to a guy 48 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: that he knows that has a friend who's gonna go 49 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: talk to Phil Sims. We're gonna see an get Phil 50 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 1: sim stopped by the studio one day, no promises, all right, 51 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:38,399 Speaker 1: and then he'll explain the whole thing to us because 52 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: I knew you guys really want to know how the 53 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: giants work and what the real deal is. But um, 54 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 1: that's what's going on behind the scenes. Anyway. Um, this 55 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 1: week on this radio show, as I was starting to 56 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: say and thinking about, we're giving a way a scan 57 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: tool from the folks over at launch Tech launch Tech USA. 58 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 1: We're giving away a Millennium fifty. It is a really 59 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: great little scan tool. It's got a color screen, it 60 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: does O B D two, it does some graphic. It's 61 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: for all you guys out there in the garage that 62 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: just need to know what codes are there. And to 63 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: tell you the truth, I use an O B D 64 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: two scan tool. That's my first tool that I pick 65 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: up when I've got to check engine light on and 66 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: i want to see what the fault code is. It's 67 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 1: a lot easier to read and work at O B 68 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: D two sometimes in manufacturer specific because when you're working 69 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: on a variety of manufacturers, they change their language that 70 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: there's differences in what they may call an oxygen centor 71 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: and air fuel ratio center between four GM Toyota, Honda, Christler, 72 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: and so on. O B D two always calls it 73 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: the same thing, and it always looks pretty much the same. 74 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: So O B D two scan tools really are part 75 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: of any guy diagnostic arsenal. We're giving that away to 76 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: a call or this hour next. I'm not sure which 77 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: one Tom's got in mind. It's it's really up to him. 78 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: So I'll be nice to Tim when you call in 79 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 1: at eight five five zero nine nine zero zero. I 80 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: want to talk about plastic. Put a post up on 81 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: Facebook this week, run on any in the Car doctor 82 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: Facebook page, And it's more than just that post. The 83 00:03:55,920 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: post is some pictures of different part of a car 84 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: of a clock spring. A clock spring is the is 85 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 1: the mechanism that that spins around with the steering wheel 86 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: that connects the air bag contacts and the horn contacts 87 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: and electrics in the wheel that you know, allow it 88 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: to connect down to a main trunk harness and run 89 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,920 Speaker 1: out to the various modules to the car, so that operates. 90 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 1: That's what a clock spring does. There's a picture of 91 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: an E M s I pump which is part of 92 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 1: an evaporative emission system, which is what we find on 93 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: a lot of Chrysler and Jeep products. And there's a 94 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 1: plastic gas cap. Now some of it seems kind of mundane. 95 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: Plastic gas cap. You have no big deal. G they've 96 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: made gas caps out of plastic now for years. It's 97 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 1: it's it's not a big deal. And they've made quite 98 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: a bit of cars out of plastic now four years. 99 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: It's not that new. But what made me think of it, 100 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: it was the instructions and the clock spring installation. When 101 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: I was reading the procedure on how to install the 102 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: clock spring and I've done do you have done more 103 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: clocks brings? And I can care to think about. But 104 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: it was the one line of the procedure that said, 105 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: when installing the clock spring, there were four screws holding 106 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: it down. Make sure you start with the left top 107 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: and work your way down to the right, bottom to 108 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: the left, rear, to the right. They had a specific 109 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: torque procedure and a specific torque range. They wanted the 110 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: screws tighten to a specific value. I don't think anybody does. 111 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: I think snug is enough and a little bit more 112 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: is better. But it made me stop to think how 113 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 1: critical plastic and working on vehicles made of plastic, which 114 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: is where we are, and we're going there ever so 115 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,239 Speaker 1: much more if we if we can in the future. 116 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: I wonder if the measurement of a good repair shop 117 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: and a good mechanic isn't going to be whether or 118 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: not they have every scan tool, every whiz bang scope, 119 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,280 Speaker 1: every piece of diagnostic information under their sun at their fingertips. 120 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: But more so, how many torque wrenches do they have? 121 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: And how good are they? And when was the last 122 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: time they were calibrated. I did a quick count. I 123 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: have eight. I have eight torques. Almost had scandals. I 124 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: have eight tor crenches in the shop, everything from inch 125 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: pounders all right to foot pounders two quarter inch all 126 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: the way up to half inch. I have. I have 127 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,600 Speaker 1: ones that are just normal click type. I have ones 128 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 1: that are beam style. I have the newer ones that 129 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: they buzz and they light up and they tell you 130 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: how many degrees to the left or the right you've gone. 131 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: And it's a small fortune in torque wrenches. And I 132 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: say to myself, I wonder will it become mandatory. You know, 133 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: we're we're talking about electronic vehicles. We're talking about autonomous vehicle, 134 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: self driving cars, and what that's going to bring to 135 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: the table, and how that's going to affect the world 136 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: in the next eight nine years. And I think about 137 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: the skill level required to service those. Part of what 138 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: they're talking about with the clock spring, why they want 139 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: the screws tightened in a specif ific order is very simple. 140 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: If you could see the clock spring itself. The plastic 141 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: is so cheesy, all right. It's sort of folds and waffles. 142 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: I hate to say like an offensive line, but I 143 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: won't say that. It's sort of waffles and folds, like 144 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: like a wet taco. It just has no no resiliency, 145 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: no strength to it. Sorry, Tom, but it it. It's 146 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: a problem. I don't know how many people are going 147 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: to do it. It's not that they're going to break 148 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: the plastic screws. The concern is warping the housing and 149 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: distorting the very sensitive electrical contexts. And that's part of 150 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: the problem I think going forward for technology in that 151 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 1: to create all the self driving cars and the ability 152 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: to uh cut down on expense and make everything non 153 00:07:48,320 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: internal combustion engine, we're gonna need to lighten the load. 154 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: We're gonna need to use even more plastic, which means 155 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: we're going to need to change the way mechanics work 156 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: on certain things. And I wonder if the industry can 157 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: do it. Uh. There aren't a lot of mechanics I know, 158 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: not a not the old school established. And this is 159 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: where I think, and I wonder about the clashing of 160 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: culture and the clashing of environment, the old heavy handed 161 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: mechanics that some of them have the best touch and 162 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: feel in the world, but a lot of them get 163 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: by on a lot of them get by on luck. 164 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: And I don't know that luck is going to do 165 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: it anymore. I think it's going to require specific training, 166 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: very expensive training, and that training is gonna have to 167 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: be paid for and come out somewhere near the end 168 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 1: just to deal with all the plastic on cars. It's 169 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: a nice little video. Get out to the Facebook page. 170 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: Run on any in the Car Doctor. You'll see that 171 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: out there, and Um, I thought you might just like 172 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: to stop and think about it. You know, how does 173 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: something as simple as a plastic clock spring change the 174 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: definition of and the way in which we're going to 175 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: work on cars in the future. It's got me thinking, 176 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: and I hope it does to you. Two zero nine 177 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Don't forget this week, man, I think 178 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna we'll see what We'll see what comes up 179 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,439 Speaker 1: this hour. But next week, I'm sorry, this hour we're 180 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: going to give away. Ah, the first of a few 181 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 1: I should point out by the way too. We're gonna 182 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 1: do this a couple of times in the next month 183 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: or so. But the first of a few launch scan 184 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: tools from the nice folks over at launch Tech Launch Tech, USA. 185 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: I'm millennium fifty. I'm running any in the Car Doctor. 186 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. Don't go away the 187 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: lolcome back the car doctor, zero nine zero zero. Let's 188 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: cruise out to the blue orders of the warm Pacific 189 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: and see Walton, Maui, Hawaii. Walt. Welcome back to the 190 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: car doctor, sir. What's going on today? Yeah? I love Ron. 191 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: How are you good, sir? Um what can I do 192 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: for you today? What we're talking to Tom about this? 193 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: I he offered, Uh, talk about the different services when 194 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: you do oil changes at your shop. All the stuff 195 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 1: you guys check and you know, I know how to 196 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: drain the oil and put then oil in. But I 197 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: was wondering if you have something kind of a checklist 198 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: or you could just kind of run down for me, 199 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, from A to Z, what what you check 200 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,959 Speaker 1: with an oil change. First of all, great question, Walter, 201 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: by the way. First of all, every cars a little different. Yeah, 202 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: all the Toyota Corollas in the cameras and and the Hondas, 203 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: and yeah, it's all the same stuff. But you know, 204 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: you give me a thirty one ton Chevy truck versus 205 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: a Toyota Corolla versus is maybe uh, you know, a 206 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: crossover suv versus a hybrid. There's all there's different things 207 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: that you're gonna look at as part of an oil change. 208 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 1: It's just you know, there's some basics and then each 209 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: car has its little idiosyncrasies. So yeah, it's if we're 210 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: not doing a drain and drop and change the filter, 211 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,200 Speaker 1: which a lot of people do and don't stop to 212 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 1: realize you know the value and what they're missing in 213 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: terms of not having the opportunity for somebody to look 214 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: at something. We always look at tires. We always take 215 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: a peek at breaks, especially now where we've got so 216 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: many cars that are four wheel disc brakes. I don't 217 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: know if too many cars that are drum brake in 218 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: the rear anymore, which is good because I think a 219 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: lot of the younger technicians would look at drum brakes 220 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: and go, Wow, what's that, which tells me, tells me 221 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: I'm getting old. Um. You know, I was talking to 222 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: some younger texts the other day. We were talking about 223 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: car bretors and they wanted to know how they worked, 224 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: and I started explaining any to them that it has 225 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: a lot to do with you know, um, the venturi 226 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: effect of a carburetor is equal to the way an 227 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: airplane gets lifted inside the wing and low pressure. And 228 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: they were looking at me like I was speaking Martian. 229 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: It was so I definitely you know what I'm talking about. Right, So, 230 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna look at tires, We're gonna look 231 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: at breaks. We're gonna spin the tires, all right. Do 232 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: they spind true? Do they wobble? Uh? You know, do 233 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: they do they have any stones in them? You know, 234 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: I'm always curious to look, look, see what's in between 235 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: the treads of the tires. And yeah, I'll do this 236 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: on a regular oil change. I'll do it quick, but 237 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: i'll do it, you know. And it's that it's that 238 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 1: visual look. I'm looking for something out of place, a 239 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: broken sway bar link, excess of rust on a brake line, 240 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 1: for a possible failure. You know, is the fuel tank 241 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: showing any stains or any signs of anything that's you know, 242 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: maybe we've got a fuel leak going on and nobody's 243 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: aware of it. An oil change is really more than 244 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: just that. It's it's an opportunity for a mechanic to 245 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: verify the safety of the vehicle. Now, the trick is 246 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: you've got to get it done in fifteen to twenty minutes, 247 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: and and that's probably stretching the time limit, so you're 248 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: working quick. I mean the usual underhood fluid, But underhood 249 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: fluids are going away. There aren't a lot of fluids 250 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: under the hood that a mechanic can check anymore, simply 251 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,959 Speaker 1: because of manufacturers are sealing everything. I had to work 252 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: on alexis two days ago, had to do a power 253 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: steering pump on a two thousand seven Lexus E S 254 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: three fifty with thirty two thousand miles on it. The 255 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: pump was leaking. I know him a little off topic here, Walton, 256 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 1: bear with me. It was just to demonstrate the point 257 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: the pump needed to be replaced, and in order to 258 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: drain the fluid out of the reservoir and fill it, 259 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: I had to remove the plastic covers that were underhood. 260 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: In particular, there were fourteen clips holding these covers on 261 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 1: which you know, we're all fragile plastic, ten years old, brittle, 262 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: ready to break, ready to snap. And you sit there 263 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: and you say, well, I gotta get these apart and 264 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: put them back together without breaking. I stocked them. But 265 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: the clips are easily four and a half five dollars 266 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: a pop. Times fourteen or times eleven, or times seven, 267 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,560 Speaker 1: however many you break, all of a sudden, you've spent 268 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:02,439 Speaker 1: an extra uple of bucks. But the point is fluids 269 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: aren't easy to get to underhood, and you know manufacturers 270 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: aren't are making it so by simple design. So for 271 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: the things I'm not checking under the hood in terms 272 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 1: of fluids, I'll use it to check those things that 273 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: I just described. Sometimes, you know, obviously I'm looking at 274 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: belts and hoses, but again, most cars today will go 275 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: the distance. I'm looking for the thing that's out of balance. 276 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: Once in a while, depending upon the vehicle, I'll pop 277 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: the trunk and look at the spare. And I say 278 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: that once in a while because it also depends on 279 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: what the person has in the trunk, and people should 280 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,679 Speaker 1: think about that. You know, if they've got the trunk 281 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:38,199 Speaker 1: loaded with bricks or or hockey gear or sweat socks 282 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 1: or whatever they're carrying around, it's really hard for the 283 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: mechanics to go in there and check the spare. And 284 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: you know what, especially on an oil change, and you know, 285 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: we'll will usually find or quite often find that the 286 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: tires are almost empty or down the thirteen pounds or 287 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 1: fourteen pounds, but definitely way below spare tire pressure limit 288 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 1: level or level limit um. But those kinds of things, 289 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: you know, an oil change is a moment to gather 290 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 1: what's left of the car and decide, Yeah, where do 291 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 1: I need to go? Do I need to recommend a 292 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: bigger checklist, a bigger look at for the car, And 293 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: that's part of it. Too. And I'll tell you one 294 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: thing a good repair shop does that a quick loop 295 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: can't do. And I've never seen them do. Absolutely positively, 296 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: a good repair shop road tests and oil change and 297 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: it's it's the truth, um, you know, because a good 298 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 1: shop will have we do we we call it three rights. 299 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 1: Go make three rights. It's up on Smith, it's up 300 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: on Bondar, it's come around the west Prospect and pull 301 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: it into the shop. Owens zetti and um, you know 302 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: we make the three rights on the road, test bumps, lumps. 303 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: How does the car feel? How does its sound? You know? 304 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: Is there something askew? I've been in more than a 305 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: few cars where the check engine light will come on 306 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: when you hit thirty miles an hour, but it's off 307 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: at idle. So if I were to take that car, 308 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: if I were to take that car from the lot, 309 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: you know, customer comes in, signs the order. Car comes 310 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: in off the lot, pull it in to the garage, 311 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: put it up in the air, change the oil, do 312 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: my thing, put it out front and not road test it. 313 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: I'd never catch the check engine light. Now, the fact 314 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: that the customer hasn't mentioned it to me, and quite 315 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: often they don't you know, some customers play if I 316 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: tell them, he'll find something expensive and I don't want 317 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: to pay for that. I'll rather wait and see what happens. 318 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 1: You know, they spend the Roulette wheel. But it's it's 319 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: really my job to make sure and make them understand 320 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: that check engine light's not on or they think that 321 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: check engine lights on because of the oil change. And 322 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: I've had people come back in and say, you change 323 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: the oil, the check engine lights still coming on, and 324 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, what check engine light? Uh? You know, so 325 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: it's an oil change. Is just so much more than 326 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: just an oil change. It really is. And I I've 327 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: said it for a long time. I think it's the 328 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: Rodney danger field of the industry. Just nobody respects it 329 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: and understands what it's about. They want it cheap, they 330 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: want it quick, they want it simple, and they want 331 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: it out the door. Um. You know, that's that's really 332 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: the perspective. And I bet you Walt checking or changing 333 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: oil on a car from Hawaii. I'm gonna be looking 334 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 1: for different things in the car from Florida, in the 335 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: car from Texas, in the car from New Jersey, then 336 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: the car from Chicago. I'll never forget and then I'm 337 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 1: gonna go. I'll never forget the car. I changed the 338 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 1: oil on. I used to have a customer and he's, 339 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: I don't I'm not sure what happened is he's I 340 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: haven't seen I haven't seen Bugsy. And probably ten years 341 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: and he lived in Jersey. He summer vacation and he retired, 342 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: I think is what happened. And he stayed down there 343 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: thinking about it. And he summer vacation down in Santa 344 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: Belle Island, Florida. He drove all the way up in 345 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: the fall, and you know, we would service the car 346 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 1: and sometimes he'd go back for the winter too. And 347 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: he came in one year and I found a small 348 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a I can't. I 349 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: don't know if it was a crocodile or an alligator. 350 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: Whatever they've got where they they've got growing in Florida. 351 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: All right, it had it had crawled into the you know, 352 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: it was you know it was it was. The mechanic 353 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: was horrified. Um. You know it was young PAULI who's 354 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: gone now, he passed recently, and it was just you know, 355 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 1: he said, you gotta come here and see this. And 356 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: I could tell by the look in his eye, I 357 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be something normal. And he had taken down 358 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: the plastic oil chain shield and there was this gator 359 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: that had wedged itself between the shield and the exhaust 360 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 1: pipe and the heat of the exhaust pipe. It was 361 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: like baked alligator all the way up from uh from 362 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: from Florida. It just it just baked it and cooked 363 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: at the death. The eyes popped out, the whole nine yards. 364 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 1: It was pretty pretty horrible to look at. But um, 365 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: I never forgot that. So you never know what you're 366 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: gonna find in the course of an oil change. Listen, 367 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: someday when I write the book, one chapter in the 368 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: book is gonna be things I found under the hood, 369 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: under the seat and in the glove compartment, all right, 370 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: because the things that people put in their cars are 371 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: just just you you, you just can't believe it. Walter 372 00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: is always sir. I appreciate the call, and I appreciate 373 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 1: you tuning us out there in Hawaii, and um, you 374 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: go and have yourself a great Hawaiian afternoon, and um 375 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: take good care. I'm ronning the card doctorate five five 376 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. The car doctors going back 377 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: right after this, don't go away. Welcome back, Ronning the 378 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Thanks for sticking with us. This our eight 379 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: zero nine zero zero. Let's go over and talk to 380 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:37,919 Speaker 1: Robert west Point, New York, and I'll tell you to 381 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: pick up truck with a break problem. Robert. Welcome to 382 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor, Sir, how can I help? Hey? Ron? Thanks? Uh? Yeah, 383 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: I put a new Master soon they're on, replaced all 384 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,880 Speaker 1: the bright brake lines and break pedal still goes right 385 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: to the floor. I mean, obviously I tried bleeding them nothing. 386 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: Now what was the original issue that made you due 387 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,080 Speaker 1: all this? Did a line break or was there some 388 00:19:00,119 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 1: other failure? Yeah, the car was sitting for two years. Uh. 389 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: I took it out. It was running fine. The next 390 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 1: day I went to use it and I saw all 391 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: the fluid on the floor. They just basically ruptured. And okay, 392 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: so when you when you put the Master on, how 393 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: did you bleed the Master? Uh? I went to a 394 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: YouTube video a couple of them, and I put the 395 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: two hoses in, made sure all the air was out, 396 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: and you just pumped it with a screwdriver. Okay, right, 397 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: and you just you just did that on a repeated 398 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: basis and all out at the back feeted into itself 399 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 1: until it didn't draw anymore, until there were no more 400 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: bubbles coming out of the discharge ports and there was 401 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: pure fluid. Correct, right? Um, Now when you did that, 402 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: when you first started doing that and you were short 403 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: stroking the Master, you know, you're kind of you're just 404 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 1: poking the bear, so to speak. You're just trying to 405 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: dislodge any bubbles. All right, the Master was level correct 406 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: when you had to clamped in the vice? Yes, okay, 407 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: Now did you notice the bubbles coming up out of 408 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: the discharge port in the middle of the Master at first? Uh? 409 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: They weren't really coming out much, but yeah, it was 410 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:18,640 Speaker 1: a little right, It's just a little yeah, right, Okay, 411 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: you were gonna say something I was saying to uh 412 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: the reading I was doing too. It was supposed to 413 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: tighten up. Would that be correct? As I'm pushing the screwdriver, 414 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: it's sort of we get harder and harder to push it. 415 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: But and that never really happened. Yes, well it should 416 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: because you know the hydraulic action has to start there 417 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: now in that in that Master cylinder kit, did they 418 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 1: give you, um little fittings that's screwing with the rubber hoses. 419 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: Is that where you got it from? Yeah? Okay, So 420 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 1: what would be ideal, all right to to really get 421 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: to the root cause of this quick is if you 422 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: can find plugs with that thread pitch to put in 423 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: those ports and push down on the push down on 424 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: the master. The master's got to hold pressure. If the 425 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: master doesn't hold pressure, then you've got a bad master, 426 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: or there's still more air in it. All right, it's 427 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: a It's as simple as that. Now. Is this is 428 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: this a rear disc brake car vehicle or a rear 429 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: drum brake vehicle? Uh, it's all right. Have you looked 430 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: at the rear drums? Do we know the wheel cylinders 431 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: are moving and working? No? No, I'm a rookie here. 432 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: That's all right brother, You know what that's that's nothing 433 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 1: wrong with that. So let's let's let's talk about a bicycle, 434 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: all right. You ever write a tent speed got a 435 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: break in the front, break in the back? Right? All right? 436 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,479 Speaker 1: You have you ever work on a bicycle? Okay? So 437 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 1: if the break in the back is not working, the 438 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: front break over works, and the same as vice versa, 439 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: the vehicle won't the bicycle won't stop as well, and 440 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: the vehicle is not gonna stop worth a hoot, all right. 441 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: If this truck has been sitting for two years to 442 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: the point that it rotted the brake lines and failed 443 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: and created the leak, we also have to stop and 444 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: think about do we have anything as far as are 445 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,400 Speaker 1: the calipers frozen? Do they move on their slides? Did 446 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: you happen to take the brakes off and make sure 447 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: that the calipers slide and do what they're supposed to do. 448 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't do that. Like I said, though, 449 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: the day before, everything was working fine and dandy. Okay. 450 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: Oh so well now you said, okay, so the vehicle 451 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: was well. Now now I'm confused. The vehicle was sitting 452 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 1: for two years the line and you were driving You 453 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: were driving it, or you fixed it and it worked okay, 454 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 1: and then it didn't okay, was sitting for two years? 455 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: Started it started right up, you know. I put fresh 456 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 1: fuel in it, took it out for a test drive. 457 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: Everything was perfect, the brakes are working. Came back home 458 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: the next day, I noticed that all the fluid pretty 459 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: much leaked out of the lines. So twenty four hours 460 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,400 Speaker 1: later they just didn't hold Overnight the lines Okay, So 461 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: was that was that? When when you say when you 462 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: say the lines leaked out, is it that the lines 463 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: failed or that the fittings It leaked at the fittings. 464 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,239 Speaker 1: Where did the league come from? Uh? Well, looking at 465 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: the lines after I took them off, they were just 466 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: corroded from years ago. Uh, in the snow with the salt. Okay, 467 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 1: So so the lines themselves failed? Yeah? All right, right, 468 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: so then let's let's let's start back with basics. Let's 469 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: make sure the master's doing what it's supposed to do, 470 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: all right. If you blocked the two lines and the master, 471 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: there's a two line master. Correct. If you block those 472 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: ports and the master, the fittings and the master, if 473 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: all the air is bled out, this should have a 474 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 1: hard this should this should have resistance. This should be 475 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 1: a hard pedal, all right, And then at that point 476 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: work your way down. Now, was it a new master 477 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: that you purchased or was it a rebuilt? It was new, 478 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: And I even got set up and I put the 479 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: old one back in since it was working. I just 480 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: thought I'd do some preventative maintenance and by a new 481 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: one because it was the original one. And but there 482 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: now they're they're both get the same results with both. 483 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: You know it might be the way you're bleeding it, 484 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: and you gave me a great idea. I'm sorry to 485 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: tell you this, Robert, but I'm gonna I'm gonna have to. 486 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: Maybe I'll do a video on bench bleeding master cylinders 487 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: one day, will stick it up on the Facebook channel'll 488 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: get it out on YouTube too, and I'll show you 489 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: guys the way I do. Mind. But basically, I want 490 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: to keep it level. I want to short stroke it. 491 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: Make sure that you're stroking it long enough. Realize there's 492 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: two ports there. So when you when you push in 493 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: on the piston, how far do you go? Do you 494 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 1: fully stroke it or do you short stroke it all 495 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: the time? I short a short stroke it in the 496 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 1: beginning to wake it up and get out some of 497 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: the preliminary air, and then I'll go longer and deeper, 498 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 1: just trying to just trying to get the rest of 499 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: the air out that's at the bottom. Did you did 500 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: you go all the way in? Yeah? I definitely did 501 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 1: it all. I I didn't s stroke it, just went 502 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: all the way the whole way smoothly though. Okay, then 503 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: let's make sure you've got nowhere and that master should 504 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 1: hold pressure and if it doesn't, then there's something wrong there. 505 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: It's as simple as that. All right, I'll give it 506 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 1: another shot. Yeah, if you if you need me, shoot 507 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: me an email Ron at Car Doctor show dot com 508 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: and you know, maybe you can shoot a little video 509 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 1: with your phone and I'll watch you bleed your breaks 510 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: and I'll tell you if I think it's right or not. 511 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: Very welcome, Thank you sir, Good luck to you. Um. Yeah, 512 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: but I guess I gotta do that. I'll have to 513 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: show you how to stroke it and uh do a 514 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,199 Speaker 1: master cylinder bleed on the bench, because that's where it 515 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: all really starts. You know. We actually do it a 516 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,719 Speaker 1: little bit of a different way. We'll change the master, 517 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: fill it with fluid, and depending upon the vehicle, we've 518 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: got a method of bleeding on the car that saves 519 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: time where we'll crack the lines and well, it's a 520 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: whole process. Maybe I'll have to show you that method 521 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: to um, show you how we can save sometimes so 522 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: we don't have the bench bleed everything, but we do 523 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 1: we do to to bench beleave more often than not. 524 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: But anyway, eight five five zero nine nine zero zero 525 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: Ron eating the Car Doctor coming back right after this doctor, 526 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: Welcome back eight five five five six zero nine nine 527 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,160 Speaker 1: zero zero seven number. Keep in mind you can call 528 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: that number anytime, day or night, leave a message and 529 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: we will call you back and put you in queue 530 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: for the next live broadcast Saturdays two to four pm 531 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: Eastern Time. Right here out of corporate headquarters, Let's go 532 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: over and talk to Roger Dayton, Ohio six Jeep Liberty 533 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: and bad Vibrations. Roger, Welcome to the Car Doctor, sir. 534 00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: How can I help? Hey? Thanks? I listened to you 535 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: on tune in radio and your first one of the the 536 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 1: first podcast I bring up every day cool. Thank you 537 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: very much. I gotta tell you the podcast thing is growing. 538 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's growing in leaps and bounds. Were stunned 539 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: to watch it, but we appreciate you being there. What 540 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: can I do for you? Okay, six Liberty, it's got 541 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: two hundred two hundred thousand miles somewhere around that on it. 542 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 1: And get a little vibration in the sturing will and 543 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: maybe you know you can feel a little bit car 544 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: At around thirty five, I did have the universal joint 545 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: replaced at about one fifty uh, just three years ago. 546 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: How is it going faster out on the highway, Roger, 547 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: if you're doing sixty? Is it? Is it as bad? 548 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: It's not there, it's still it's it's pretty smooth, pretty 549 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: smooth at that at that range. I haven't driven up 550 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: much at past yet. I just noticed that yesterday's I 551 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: haven't driven up much steering whom steering wheel vibrates though, Yeah, 552 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: just a little bit. You can just feel a little 553 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: bit in the in the string. Well, besides the little 554 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: bit in the steering wheel, do you feel that, you know, 555 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 1: anywhere else, seat of your pants, on the floorboard of 556 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: the vehicle, on the shifter handle, on the transfer case shifter, 557 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,119 Speaker 1: if there is one. Um there's just in the steering wheel, 558 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,880 Speaker 1: mostly just in the stern wheel. But you can't feel 559 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: a little bit in the car too, But not much, 560 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,919 Speaker 1: have you? I just put new, good, new generals on 561 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,439 Speaker 1: it about eight thousand miles ago, too, all right, when 562 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: they when they did the tires, did they happen to 563 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: mention anything about the they balanced out any issues with 564 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: any of the rooms. Now that everything bounced good? Okay, 565 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: have you tried rotating the tires? I did pull. I 566 00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: thought it was coming from the right side. So I 567 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: did pull that tire off and put the spare on. 568 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: It's got a full side spare, and I didn't make 569 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 1: any difference. It made no difference whatsoever. So then the 570 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: next thing I'm gonna do is I'm gonna rule out 571 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: tires if if moving tires around doesn't change anything, or 572 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 1: if you want to rotate the front to back, I 573 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna matter, and it doesn't change anything. 574 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: Um and you know, maybe do a full rotate front 575 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: to back and let's just say it's it's not likely, 576 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: but it's you know, anything's possible. We're dealing with something mechanical, 577 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: and if the problem does change, it doesn't necessarily mean 578 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: it's the tire. I would also tend to think, do 579 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: I have a problem with one of the rims? Is 580 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: it possible at this age and mileage where I'm gonna 581 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: where I'm gonna focus next? Well, I want to say this, 582 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 1: all right, just because they're new, just make sure and 583 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure this isn't it, but let's just make sure 584 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,239 Speaker 1: make sure you've got were equal size correct tires on 585 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: the truck, all right, Just you know, I'm amazed. How 586 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: forty three years later I don't think it not good. 587 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: Oh God, I don't want to say this on air, 588 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: but you know, we haven't had the tire cross pass. 589 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: It's close. Every once in a while you pick up 590 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: the wrong tire and if it's off by a little bit, 591 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 1: you'll never know, and the issue becomes. Jeep liberties in 592 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:31,959 Speaker 1: particular are very sensitive to differences entire diameter, so tire 593 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: size is gonna make a whole world of difference. So 594 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: just just to verify that, that's something quick, simple and 595 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: easy to do. The The The next thing I would 596 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: think about is you had the you joint replaced. Did 597 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: they just do the joint or did they actually go 598 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: through the effort of balancing the shaft? They said, so 599 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't your regular repair shop. It was a it 600 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 1: was a drive line specialists so to speak. Now it's 601 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: just a regular um shop. I wonder how they knew 602 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: the drive shaft was balanced. Uh, well, they told me 603 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: they balanced it. They replaced there was a rare joint. 604 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: Said they balanced the drive shaft also. All right, So 605 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: they sent the drive shaft out because I know of yeah, 606 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,239 Speaker 1: because I know of no repair shop that's got an 607 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: in house drive shaft. Balancing facility, So that my second 608 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: question would be if you if you're crawl underneath it 609 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: and look at the and look at the drive shaft, 610 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: does it look like a weight is missing? Okay, alright, 611 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: I haven't checked that. I'll have to check that, you know, 612 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: could a weight be missing off the shaft? And then 613 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: my last and my last question would be at thirty five, 614 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: if you're crowsing along and it's it's doing it underload? 615 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: Does it change when you take your foot off the 616 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: gas and cruise? Does it change if you put the 617 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: vehicle in neutral? When it seems like when you take 618 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: your foot off the gas it will smooth out. Okay, 619 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: So then it's it's it's it's a dress vibration. It's underload. 620 00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: And I start thinking about looking at transmounts and motor mounts, okay, 621 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: just to just to see what kind of shape they're in. Okay, 622 00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: I can do that, all right, sir. And uh, just 623 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 1: to let you know, um, they have a great program 624 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: here at the Saint Clark Community College automotive classes, and 625 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: since I'm senior citizens, I can take those for free. 626 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: So I've been going through taking those one quarter at 627 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: a time. So it's being pretty good. It's it's it's quarter, 628 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting stuff, right, oh, yeah, interest. I took 629 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: the electronics one and two and learn a lot of 630 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: new stuff, but probably never use it. But you know, hey, 631 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: you never know. You're never too old too. Yeah, you know. Hey, listen, 632 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Why don't you go talk to 633 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: the instructors. Give him our number and hook them up 634 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: with us, and let's let's maybe we'll do an interview 635 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: on an instructor too. We can talk about training the 636 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:45,960 Speaker 1: new technicians of the future. Um, drop our name over there, 637 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: and let's see if we can get them some airtime 638 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 1: and talk a little bit about, you know, fixing cars 639 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: and the technicians of the future, that kind of thing. Roger, 640 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call, and I appreciate you being there 641 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,520 Speaker 1: and your efforts. I'm running eating in the car Doctor. 642 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this welcome back, wanting any 643 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: of the car Doctor. By the way, I should point 644 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: out that, UM, I think this is the last week 645 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: coming up for the super Chips dollar cash rebate on 646 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: any point on any flashback. So if you get out 647 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: to the website where is it here super chips dot com, 648 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: if you're thinking about buying an in vehicle tuner for 649 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 1: your vehicle, UM, for your you know, truck, SUV, your jeep, 650 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: et cetera. UM, flashbacks got you covered. They've got running 651 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: a coupon here at cash rebid any flashpack controller now 652 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: through September. We're wanted there for five days away. UM, 653 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: get out there and do that. Let's get over and 654 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: talk to Dave in Iowa. Dave, you're wrong with the car, doctor, sir, 655 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 1: How can I help everybody? How you doing all right? 656 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: What's going on? Man? Hey? You know want I gotta 657 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: I gotta statement back, and I've got a question about 658 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: a car. The first statement I'd like to make is 659 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 1: I think you need to open up with a university, 660 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: and if I win the lotto, I'll finance. It's okay, 661 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: now you're in. But now listen, I got a request. 662 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: If you do that, I want you to put I 663 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: want you to put the university next door to Walt 664 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: from Maui, Hawaii. This way I can uh, you know, 665 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 1: he'll he'll be first in line every morning. At least 666 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: I'll get a view of the Pacific absolutely wherever you 667 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: want it drawn anyway, I've got a Malibu to my 668 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: wife's car and she's listening, so you can say hi, Renee. Anyway, 669 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: she's got a Malibu, a two thousand Malibu. We pulled 670 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: it in our driveway which has a light down uh 671 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: thrope to it, and I put it in park. I 672 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 1: went back out the next morning to try to start it. 673 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: I couldn't get the key to turn on. I couldn't 674 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: get the the thing to come out apart. The mutton 675 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: was working, but it wasn't releasing. And the little light 676 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 1: down on the low big to have atle lights there 677 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: and show you what geary you're in. And the light 678 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,959 Speaker 1: was on, but the shifter was up in park and 679 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: the key wouldn't work. So anyway, we were shredded there. 680 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: We called him Kennick and he said, well, well you 681 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: have to come out and pick it up. I said, 682 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: pick it up. I think you're gonna have to have 683 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: a lift because we can't even get the damn thing 684 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: to roll it where, you know, so he's didn't have 685 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: to grab it out on the street and grab it 686 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: up on the I thought, oh, Ron will know what 687 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 1: to do. Well, So so you know, here's my here's 688 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: what probably happened. You know, you're you're probably you've got 689 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: the weight of the vehicle resting on the park pole 690 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: inside the transmission, so it's just you've got so much 691 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 1: load there that it's just jammed up against it holding 692 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: it in place. So number one, can you turn the 693 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 1: key to the opposition real quickly? Can you turn the 694 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: key to the opposition and will shift into neutral or 695 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: it's just stuck in gear. It's just stuck in park. Period. 696 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 1: Stuck in park. You got to get the weight off 697 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: the park pole. You gotta see if rocking the car 698 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 1: while you're shifting it will actually release the weight of 699 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: the vehicle. Just be aware, don't get run over. If 700 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 1: the car pops out of park and you're standing in 701 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,839 Speaker 1: front of it and it's rolling downhill, think about what 702 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,240 Speaker 1: you're doing. I'm ron any in the car doctor. Mechanics 703 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: aren't expensive if they're priceless.