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Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, I'm sorry, my bat, but we got a

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Speaker 1: But I am excited. I'm really excited. Man.

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Speaker 3: A young team, a young, fun team, young coaches, a

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Speaker 4: Just you gotta get that staff. Oh.

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Speaker 3: You know, putting that staff together was a lot of fun,

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Speaker 3: you know. I we delayed the press conference a little

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Speaker 3: of us, getting the time together working with Terry. So

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Speaker 3: by the time I talked to the masses coming back

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Speaker 1: I had already established who was going to.

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Speaker 3: Be coaching where, who's gonna be doing what, Getting back

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Speaker 3: Jimmy Lake, having a chance to get Zach with Zack

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Speaker 3: you know, it was.

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Speaker 1: It was a good. It was helping you to keep.

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Speaker 4: These guys like in like in your phone or something

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Speaker 2: Hire rolodex when you kind of just hold that you

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Speaker 1: So you never you never like keep them as just

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Speaker 3: Like what happens is when you get the opportunities to

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Speaker 3: interview for some of these jobs, you keep that list,

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Speaker 3: Lesson Sean, I thought was great. Being able to communicate

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Speaker 3: that with all the guys Steve and you met my

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Speaker 3: that with him, put those lists, give off with my agent,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, your back.

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Speaker 2: When you when you get the call and you're going

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Speaker 2: to be the head coach of the Atlanta Falcons. Who

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Speaker 2: was your first call to assemble this coaching staff of yours?

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Speaker 2: Like most excited to call, Like, oh, I gotta like hey,

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Speaker 2: we're going yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you give.

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Speaker 1: Them, you give them.

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Speaker 2: Hey, remember that thing we talked about that bar, that

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Speaker 1: You know. You know what's funny is.

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Speaker 3: It probably was Zach Robinson because they were all out

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Speaker 3: you know, I think this is gonna happen. And once

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Speaker 3: I got the job, I kind of called him to

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Speaker 1: He gonna have a baby and me has a baby,

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Speaker 3: Like, so I probably called him first, and I don't

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Speaker 3: You know, Jimmy Lake was one of those people. And

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Speaker 4: You know, who's someone that might have felt surprised or

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Speaker 1: Uh, probably Lance Shelters, Probably Barrett Rude. Yeah, Barrett was in,

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Speaker 3: And you got to know how great Frank Bush is.

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Speaker 3: He got a chance to go to Tennessee be one

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Speaker 3: And when Frank got the job or took the job,

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Speaker 1: The best man?

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Speaker 2: Is he?

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Speaker 4: Is your favorite white linebacker you've ever coached?

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Speaker 1: It's hard to say, Man, I've got a plethorugh of him. Now.

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Speaker 1: Know we're going to going ls. They'll let him make

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Speaker 2: The freedom of choose, freedom shoose. When so you're making

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Speaker 2: all these exciting phone calls, you obviously make so many

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Speaker 3: Hey, total on, I want to discredit Troy Reader. Man,

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Speaker 3: I don't want to miss all my my white line.

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Speaker 3: There'll be a bunch of people calling me after this.

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Speaker 2: hey brother, hey, are you gonna let me get a job?

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Speaker 3: So those are always tough, But I think you just

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Speaker 3: for you to get them, because ultimately they fit your ethos.

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Speaker 3: And all those guys that will call you with enough

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Speaker 3: There is a bunch of good coaches that I could

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Speaker 3: But now he's a big tam you want him to coach.

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Speaker 1: You know who knew he's gonna be the Superstar.

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Speaker 4: I still because he never know. I still talk about it.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, you never know what. I just want to

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Speaker 3: You got a great gig you do and you got

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Speaker 1: I mean you look good man. I'm proud of you.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that you were mentioning ethos. What is yours

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Speaker 4: or what do you look for.

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Speaker 3: When you know I eat those man, It's really about

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Speaker 3: We talk about bringing those people into our building. That's

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Speaker 3: we buy good coaches, We've had bad coaches.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to hear your opinions, but I do

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Speaker 4: You come from a I mean that staff we were

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it really hasn't.

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Speaker 3: And John Gruden doesn't get enough credit for some stuff

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Speaker 3: everybody's stuff. And I remember Kyle Shanahan it came to

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Speaker 3: and he taught us the Denver system, the zone scheme.

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Speaker 3: He taught us to keep her game, and he taught

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Speaker 3: he learned that from us and Mike Tomlin and myself

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Speaker 3: sitting down in meeting rooms talking about it, and we

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Speaker 4: He's like, I don't care if you got to draw

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Speaker 3: And I don't know if you're ever upset at Fletch,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it was special. How in the hell did

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Speaker 3: Strong man, listen man, you don't know how hard pottery

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Speaker 2: Give me ceramics.

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Speaker 1: It is tough.

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Speaker 3: You got to sit there. You gotta hold the gentle wheel.

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Speaker 2: I'm taken a class. You know I have an I don't.

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Speaker 1: Stand there winning the Super Bowl the first year, won

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have two of them boys.

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Speaker 3: And that's also what intrigues you about coming back to Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: But talk about talk about you being in Atlanta and

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Speaker 3: You know, I think it's like it's it's It's really

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Speaker 1: So I didn't leave bitter.

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Speaker 2: and beat the shit out of them, you know, so

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00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,080
Speaker 2: you don't have to practice.

443
00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,080
Speaker 4: You don't have practice.

444
00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,640
Speaker 1: I knew about that, and that's why I called back.

445
00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,640
Speaker 3: So like we actually had some of the similar experiences

446
00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:48,240
Speaker 3: of off on the Wednesday, put it combined the Thursday Friday,

447
00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:50,920
Speaker 3: and then go play a game and win. And then

448
00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,520
Speaker 3: it got to the point we had won two games

449
00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,080
Speaker 3: and everybody's like, every time we take a day off,

450
00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:54,360
Speaker 3: we win.

451
00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, but and it.

452
00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,960
Speaker 3: Was started generating the loss of the healthiest team wins.

453
00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,160
Speaker 2: You were so nut us. We're on zoom, We're talking

454
00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,000
Speaker 2: about the Steelers, and then like a day later they're like,

455
00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,520
Speaker 2: all right, we're going Bills. We're going to go the

456
00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,880
Speaker 2: Bills now. And then showed up for a walk through

457
00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:10,480
Speaker 2: on a Saturday and then played a night Tuesday game.

458
00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:12,320
Speaker 4: And Bridge just gives it any time any plays does.

459
00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:14,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you literally you're walking onto the game and

460
00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,840
Speaker 2: the mind frame is we're either going to get the

461
00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:18,439
Speaker 2: shit kicked out of us or somehow we're to keep

462
00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:20,440
Speaker 2: it close. We had we got nothing to lose, You

463
00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,600
Speaker 2: got nothing to lose. The boys are flying around.

464
00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:24,159
Speaker 3: I don't know, we might be. I don't know what

465
00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:25,480
Speaker 3: day you played on, but we might. I think we

466
00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,480
Speaker 3: played on a Wednesday in LA, and we played Arizona

467
00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:31,360
Speaker 3: when they delayed, and and we had people clearing protocol.

468
00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:34,520
Speaker 2: The morning of the game, and craziest that's when we're

469
00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:34,880
Speaker 2: in La.

470
00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,320
Speaker 1: That that was it was. It was some crazy stuff

471
00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:38,040
Speaker 1: going on in La.

472
00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,760
Speaker 2: Had a little extra. Yeah, they were keeping they were

473
00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,520
Speaker 2: making sure everything was you.

474
00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,320
Speaker 3: Know, by the time I got to l A, you know,

475
00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,919
Speaker 3: towards the Endico was it was starting to be. It

476
00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,560
Speaker 3: was right upped. It was the best time you can

477
00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,280
Speaker 3: go to LA because they had just opened up outdoor eating.

478
00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,680
Speaker 3: And if you ever go to LA and you gettle

479
00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:56,399
Speaker 3: out there eating, whether you're at Mastros and you're eating

480
00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,359
Speaker 3: in that parking lot and you're look into those waves

481
00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:59,720
Speaker 3: crashing the wall.

482
00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,320
Speaker 1: All right, Actually like Mastros better with COVID, you.

483
00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,040
Speaker 2: Know it was it was I like that, that's a

484
00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:06,480
Speaker 2: good dish.

485
00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,160
Speaker 3: And we had we had a bunch of different restaurants

486
00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:10,800
Speaker 3: with the outdoor eating, so it was pretty cool going

487
00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,359
Speaker 3: to a little Jacket gets the outdoor food.

488
00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:12,880
Speaker 4: Yeah.

489
00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:14,760
Speaker 1: I kind of enjoyed that part of la being there

490
00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:15,439
Speaker 1: when it was COVID.

491
00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,760
Speaker 2: When you were at the Rams and you get the

492
00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:19,919
Speaker 2: call and I don't know who called you, Maybe it

493
00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,480
Speaker 2: was Arthur, whoever it was, and you're like, you're gonna

494
00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:25,000
Speaker 2: have the job for the Atlanta Falcons. Was it kind

495
00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:26,760
Speaker 2: of wild? Were you surprised at that phone call coming

496
00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,280
Speaker 2: in after literally four years prior being there.

497
00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:30,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't surprised.

498
00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,280
Speaker 3: I was more surprised when they when they asked me

499
00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:39,680
Speaker 3: to do the interview, I'm like, man, you know this this,

500
00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,800
Speaker 3: this is this is really interesting, you know, like I'm

501
00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,840
Speaker 3: fired up. So I was really intrigued about doing the ZOOM.

502
00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,240
Speaker 3: I was really intrigued about meeting Terry, you know. And

503
00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,359
Speaker 3: then when I got on, I see Kyle Smith and

504
00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,320
Speaker 3: and some of those guys and we had a you know,

505
00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,600
Speaker 3: Atlanta tried to intimidate me. You know, they didn't put

506
00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,639
Speaker 3: Arthur blank on the screen, you know, probably one of

507
00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,360
Speaker 3: the only ones he won on was in the background.

508
00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,280
Speaker 3: The first time I came, I met with Arthur. The

509
00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,800
Speaker 3: second time I came Man, but it was Rich McKay,

510
00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,200
Speaker 3: it was Kyle Smith, it was Terry Fonto. Who else

511
00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:06,919
Speaker 3: was on the scaid at the time, I can't think of,

512
00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:09,440
Speaker 3: maybe Dean Stimulos, but a couple of people that I knew,

513
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,879
Speaker 3: And I thought it was cool because it was really formal.

514
00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,000
Speaker 3: It was it was information gathering, and I did a

515
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,520
Speaker 3: good enough job in that to get me to the

516
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,879
Speaker 3: second interview until I came back coming here to finally

517
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:22,680
Speaker 3: go to Arthur's house and sit down to be able

518
00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,719
Speaker 3: to talk to him about some of our common beliefs,

519
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,720
Speaker 3: some of our theories, what I've learned, how far I've grown,

520
00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:30,320
Speaker 3: what I want to see next. And the boys were

521
00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,159
Speaker 3: there and Max and Josh. No Josh wasn't there, but

522
00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,359
Speaker 3: it was Max. And then I met with another group

523
00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 3: that had some people here, Tamika Risch and Fernando who

524
00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 3: I didn't know at the time, and Dean stim Mils

525
00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:42,760
Speaker 3: was a productor so well, and Brett Jukes and some

526
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,000
Speaker 3: of the guys that I had new from when I

527
00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,880
Speaker 3: was here before across the building. Because what Arthur does

528
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:51,800
Speaker 3: best is he gets opinions from different people and he

529
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,919
Speaker 3: has a way of hiring people in the process, and

530
00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,959
Speaker 3: he went through that whole process with me, and I

531
00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 3: was really appreciative of style in the way did it.

532
00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,159
Speaker 4: You were talking a little bit when we were on

533
00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:02,640
Speaker 4: the hallway by your relationship with Arthur and how long,

534
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,720
Speaker 4: like how much history you guys do have. Taylor was

535
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,959
Speaker 4: asking about it a little bit before we started, but

536
00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,480
Speaker 4: can you talk about can you talk about how that's

537
00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:10,879
Speaker 4: developed and when it started?

538
00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,159
Speaker 3: It's so funny. I start right from the beginning. It

539
00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,000
Speaker 3: was a Ronde barber who asked me to go out

540
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 3: to a ranch in Montana with him. And I'm thinking,

541
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:18,639
Speaker 3: what do I want to go to ranch in Montana for?

542
00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:21,320
Speaker 3: But it was Ronde right, and took the family out

543
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,480
Speaker 3: a beautiful place, beautiful place, beautiful place, and we had

544
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,720
Speaker 3: a ball and where I learned to ride a horse,

545
00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,000
Speaker 3: and where I was able to let my kids run

546
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,360
Speaker 3: around this ranch in Montana and have a bunch of fun.

547
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,640
Speaker 1: And they provided this five star.

548
00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,119
Speaker 3: Meal at the end of the night with your family

549
00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 3: and then at the end of the night, your kids

550
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 3: all came and it was this family fun environment and

551
00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,439
Speaker 3: it was different in any place that I had been

552
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,359
Speaker 3: or taking my kids, and I thought, this is really

553
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 3: well done. And it just so happened that Arthur Blank

554
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,360
Speaker 3: was the owner of the ranch and he would pick

555
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,320
Speaker 3: a spots and he eat different with different groups every

556
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:57,000
Speaker 3: single night. And I didn't work for him, so I

557
00:20:57,040 --> 00:20:59,120
Speaker 3: had no care in the world. I just was myself,

558
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,280
Speaker 3: good time, having a great time.

559
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:02,480
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, you're to Lanta owner.

560
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:06,639
Speaker 3: I worked with Dampa, who cares right, yes, and we

561
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 3: got a chance to know each other in those first

562
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 3: couple of years. And then I got lucky enough, fortunate

563
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,360
Speaker 3: enough to come down here with dan Quinn and worked

564
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 3: for him, and I was still going to the ranch,

565
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,040
Speaker 3: so it didn't change our dynamic that way.

566
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 1: It just helped us grow a little bit e bit more.

567
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 3: Get a chance to know you on the personal level.

568
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 3: Then he got a chance to know me as a worker.

569
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 3: Then I got a chance to do a trial run

570
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 3: as the interim head coach, and then I can a

571
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 3: chance to go away and then come back. And really

572
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 3: he's almost a father figure at this point because he's

573
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,359
Speaker 3: seen full development and full growth, you know, and having

574
00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:36,720
Speaker 3: a chance to come back and them and knowing the

575
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 3: core values, how to be innovative, how to be people first,

576
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 3: how to do some of those things that we talk

577
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,360
Speaker 3: about all the time when it comes to our culture.

578
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 3: That it was a really cool environment to come back

579
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,360
Speaker 3: to and really cool to see how he had even

580
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 3: grown even further and how he'd done some different things.

581
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 3: When I left it was amb and come back as

582
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 3: amb se right, the whole sports entertainment and is everything

583
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 3: about of that. And it's like it's become even more

584
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 3: family or intended come even more that way, and that's

585
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 3: what he wants and that's what we all want. And

586
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 3: I think that's become bigger part of his buildings. So

587
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 3: like our relationship is different. That doesn't mean he's not

588
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 3: gonna fire me the same way. We don't have the

589
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 3: results right, right, but.

590
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,400
Speaker 1: It definitely makes you want to work harder for him.

591
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does have that like kind of mob boss

592
00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 2: kind of vibe. Well, you said, I said I was

593
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 2: able to sit down with him during a like one

594
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 2: of those Top thirty visits.

595
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: I didn't I say that, Arthur, that was Taylor.

596
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,119
Speaker 2: You You got like he's got a vibe about it

597
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 2: I saw went to I was in, uh, what's that

598
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 2: nice area?

599
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: Buckheat, Buckhead?

600
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,440
Speaker 2: I was in Buckhead. There's like this really nice house

601
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: and I went and there end up being his office

602
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 2: and there's like really nice woods and a nice painting

603
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 2: and he sits down, his hair, sleep back, mustache out,

604
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,520
Speaker 2: and we're just kind of the whole time. I'm fearing

605
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 2: for my.

606
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: Life a little bit. He always looks great.

607
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 3: He looks yeah, he's gonna air, and if he's not,

608
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,200
Speaker 3: he's gonna get somebody to make sure he's The next time.

609
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 4: You might say otherwise, though, I mean, yeah, you could be.

610
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 2: Behind right now.

611
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 3: He treats you when he when he's treated the way

612
00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 3: he looks, he looks like a mob boss, and he

613
00:22:58,960 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 3: treated that way.

614
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,520
Speaker 1: When he walks in the room, things are are tightening up.

615
00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,320
Speaker 1: You're tightied up. When he's not around. I can tell

616
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:09,920
Speaker 1: him that they're tidied up.

617
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 3: It's just it's more people moving when he's in the presence,

618
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:13,919
Speaker 3: when he's ready to get there.

619
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

620
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 4: How do you feel like you've developed? And obviously it's

621
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 4: been you know, quite a bit since your head coaching

622
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 4: run in Tampa, Sure, but what do you feel like

623
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 4: you've learned the most, or the learning curve when you

624
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 4: look back think of the things that you might have

625
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 4: done wrong.

626
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 3: It was a it was a bunch you can talk

627
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 3: about wrong. We don't have enough time in this segment

628
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 3: to talk about what you've done wrong. But the things

629
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 3: that you learned the most was the collaboration of the

630
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 3: general manager and the head coach, because that just goes

631
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 3: throughout the building like no of it. And the best

632
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,479
Speaker 3: example that I saw was was Lesson and Sean McVay.

633
00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 3: And then you start think about some of your outside

634
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 3: sources and what it was with Mike Tomlin and his

635
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 3: general manager at the time, you know, the yes general

636
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 3: manager not new one, but watching those guys work together

637
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 3: because I was able to be close enough to that

638
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh system and watch them win and work together for

639
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 3: a long time. But it was really good to see

640
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 3: that and be around it every single day, how they

641
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 3: went about their business to be able to bring that back.

642
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 3: So like that collaboration was great, and me and Mark

643
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: Dominic we had a great relationship, but I don't know

644
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 3: if that the all out trust and collaboration was there

645
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 3: like it needs to be in order to win at

646
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 3: the highest level, Like we still had things that we

647
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 3: hit from each other. And I'm not going to sit

648
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,159
Speaker 3: here and blame him for anything, but it was some

649
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 3: parts that we can learn, like we talked about and

650
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 3: do better that we want to do better together. And

651
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 3: I still keep it with market and we're great friends.

652
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,200
Speaker 3: But we could have done a better job of formul

653
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 3: our relationship first before trying to coach our football team.

654
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 4: You're known as such like a a player's coach, which

655
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 4: is like I feel like loosely said these days, and

656
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 4: you are known as like an A plus relationships guy

657
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,959
Speaker 4: being a young coach coming up understanding that you can,

658
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 4: like I've you're like, you're one of my favorite coaches

659
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 4: that I never that never coached me because you see

660
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 4: how good you are with everybody in the room and

661
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:55,040
Speaker 4: everything else. How does that? How do you balance that

662
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 4: shift sitting in the head coaching chair versus being like

663
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 4: a position coach.

664
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Speaker 3: You know, I pride myself even because as you know,

665
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 3: as having a relationship with trying to have a relationship

666
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 3: with everybody in the room. You know, whatever that relationship was, right,

667
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 3: whatever it is, whatever you can make it. Like for us,

668
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 3: it was technique, it was some of the things that

669
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 3: can help with your drop. It was individual things I

670
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 3: send on your movement, things of that nature. So I

671
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 3: was able to communicate that to you at hopefully a

672
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: high level. And I try to form a different set

673
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 3: of relationship with everybody within the defense, and then if

674
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,760
Speaker 3: you really dive deep, it was really starting to settle

675
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 3: in with people on the offense, and it was other

676
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,400
Speaker 3: coaches and being able to invite people into your home

677
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 3: and do different things with different people. And I think

678
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,239
Speaker 3: I pride myself on creating these relationships that help you

679
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 3: just grow and develop to a person that sussed that

680
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 3: out in the people.

681
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: You hire and like foster that culture and then you.

682
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 3: Make that culture just kind of develop into everyone where

683
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 3: you want to be grown that way, And like right

684
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 3: now with Terry, I pride myself on giving them more information.

685
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 3: I pride myself on our communication. I pride myself on

686
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 3: being authentic listener. Listening is a skill and it's hard

687
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 3: to do, particularly when you're young and you got all

688
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 3: the answers.

689
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 1: And you're like, I'm aout thirty to your head coach,

690
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: what are you gonna tell me?

691
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 2: Right?

692
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 3: But now you know, fast forward to these years and

693
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, I love being able to listen

694
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 3: to Terry talk about his experiences in New Orleans and

695
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 3: how he grew throughout the system and the people that

696
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 3: he were with, and what he's seeing with Drew Brees

697
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 3: and how he's going about this movement and the people

698
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,639
Speaker 3: that he listened to. And I love sitting around listening

699
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,359
Speaker 3: before I actually talk. And that's a battle I still

700
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:36,879
Speaker 3: fight clearly, right but I'd love to keep developing that skill.

701
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 3: And that's how I kind of do it right now,

702
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,879
Speaker 3: pride yourself and listening to more people in your staff,

703
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 3: Hi to people that can build those relationships and phone

704
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 3: those relationships. But then once you get them, find a

705
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:47,159
Speaker 3: way to listen to them.

706
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, when are you having that open line of communication?

707
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,920
Speaker 2: How do you not get to a point where like

708
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: there's too many chefs in the kitchen, where like you

709
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 2: have so many opinions coming your way you might lose

710
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: what your first opinion was. And kind of there's so

711
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 2: many roads you can take in any given decision, finding

712
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 2: that way of making the best one.

713
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 3: I think the last one ultimately the decision makes kick in.

714
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 3: You know, there's a reason there's a coordinated title on

715
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 3: people's name. There's a reason you have assistant general managers.

716
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 3: There's a reason you have a director of personnel and

717
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 3: a director of college. You know, ultimately the decision maker's

718
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: got to collaborate at the end of the day and

719
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: come up with that result what you want and then

720
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 3: come out that room what we're doing. You know, you

721
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 3: appreciate you listen. You're able to gather information from all

722
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 3: their personnels and all of the so to speak, ideas,

723
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 3: but at the end of the day is our job

724
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 3: to put them together and go get what we need

725
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: to get done.

726
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 4: You obviously, you've rattled off so many coaches that you've

727
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 4: been around with the Grudens and Shanahan's and mcveigh's and

728
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 4: coach Quinn and I know that they've all had a

729
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 4: hand in your career, But is there a coach that

730
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 4: you feel like has influenced you more than the others?

731
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: Ah Man, You know, Mike Tomlin would obviously get the

732
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 3: most credit in the professional level. Watching them right now

733
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 3: two thousand and two Super Bowl team room him do

734
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 3: those things and control that defensive back room and watching

735
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 3: him navigate himself to being this great defensive coach, and

736
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 3: he also played offensive ball when he was at William

737
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 3: and Mary, So he was one of the first people

738
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: to spike my interest of offense and really intrigued me

739
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 3: about how he taught through an offensive lens. So I

740
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 3: wanted to be more like that. And he would take

741
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 3: definitely the professional developing the career movements of that. And

742
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 3: then the other one with the relationship was definitely Joe Gardy.

743
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,159
Speaker 3: You know it was it was nobody at like my

744
00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 3: college coach that taught me what nepotism was and building

745
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 3: relationship with people.

746
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 1: I remember he would come down the hall and say, hey, Raheem,

747
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: I'm going to Connecticut to get a slice of pizza.

748
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: You want to come? You know, I'm like, sure, pal

749
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: off the Connecticut. We went. Off the Connecticut we went.

750
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 3: And then, like you know, any even think back, you

751
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: go back to even your high school coaches with Donnie

752
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 3: Somo and I will never forget. And I thought about

753
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: it last week when we draft Panics and everybody went

754
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 3: crazy in the world, and I remember the first I

755
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: remember the first thing he said to talk about that,

756
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 3: I mean the first thing he said to me. Shock

757
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 3: him got T shirts that my dad still hath Yeah,

758
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 3: they said, shock him and and and that was Donnie Somma.

759
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: And I was seventeen years old right when he told

760
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 3: me that Chet Parlavecchia before that as a junior, and

761
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 3: the toughness that he displayed within practice. When you had

762
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: this Italian coach with his nose bleeding through his face

763
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: mask telling you what to do, it was like, Okay,

764
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 3: this dude is different.

765
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: He looks at you different. So I got it.

766
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: Throughout the walks of life, you've stolen different things from people,

767
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 3: and it's like you formulate your own identity.

768
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I love that. We're getting shout outs back all

769
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: the way to the high school day.

770
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you brought up Pennix. Yes, you guys are sitting

771
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 2: there at eight. Everyone's saying Atlanta since Jonathan Abraham, they've

772
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: needed a rush guy for the longest time since him.

773
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: They're going to take get this guy, thether Hick Dallas

774
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: Turner out of Alabama, no question about it. Kirk, Yeah,

775
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 2: another web not a weapon for Kirk. He's edge rusher, but.

776
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins another weapon. He was giving me. You are

777
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: right there, follow along your fault.

778
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 2: I was like, that guy is yeah, or a weapon

779
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 2: for Kirks no question, and then obviously that's turned in

780
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: in the whole place, all of the National Football League

781
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: goes crazy in the situation. What what was the thought

782
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: process there?

783
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 3: So you know, we talked about decision makers, right, and

784
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 3: you're exactly right. Nobody's wrong in their thinking, you know,

785
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 3: like nobody's wrong and what they're saying, like, you know,

786
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: whether you needed a pass rusher, you needed a cover guy,

787
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 3: potentially getting another weapon for Kirk, like we talked about,

788
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 3: you know, but you address these things as you go

789
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 3: without the process and free agency with just Kirt right

790
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 3: out a number one need for the right now quarterback

791
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 3: position to play what we wanted to do, went out

792
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,239
Speaker 3: and got Mooney, went and got Ray Ray McLeod. You know,

793
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 3: we traded and went and got a guy from Purdue

794
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 3: and what he's able to do in Ron Dell right

795
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: and do some of those differences you already had, you know,

796
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 3: Pits on the team. You got you know, b John

797
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 3: Robinson with Tyler Agier. You have these different weapons around

798
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 3: people all across but Drake London at the other side

799
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: of the wide out and on defense. When we got

800
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: here and washed the tape, Jimmy Lake and I you

801
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 3: see some really impressive players. We just talked about Ellis,

802
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 3: We talked about Nate Lamon right, so many people up

803
00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 3: fronting the Grady Jarretts and talking about having do O

804
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 3: here from New Llan, some of those type of things

805
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 3: and all these weapons across the board.

806
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: A J.

807
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 3: Terrell's an uprising star in my opinion. And then you

808
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 3: went last year and you got Jesse Base and you

809
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 3: put that to the roster and our jobs. You could

810
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 3: say whatever you want to say is to have short

811
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: term and long term thoughts. And we went through a

812
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 3: hard time without Matt Ryan. This organization I'm talking about,

813
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: and personally, you know, I love Matt Ryan and what

814
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 3: he brought to the city. And if we were sitting

815
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: there and we had drafted Curtain twenty twelve and he

816
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: came here and he just finished his career and he

817
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 3: was thirty six years old, we'd be in positioned to

818
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 3: look for a quarterback. Luckily enough, we have an owner

819
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,959
Speaker 3: of that season the same way as us. You know,

820
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: you just play a guy one hundred million dollars guaranteed,

821
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 3: a hundred and eighty million dollars contract, and he says,

822
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 3: let's finish. We got an answer for a short term.

823
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: No matter what that short term is, right, it could

824
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 3: be the extent of his contract, it's still short term.

825
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 3: But if you believe in the guy and he's high

826
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 3: enough for that point when you get to him and

827
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: you can get a long term asked that quarterback and

828
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 3: Michael Pennisul's we do why not take that shot?

829
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: Right? Why not take the shot?

830
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 3: And you know it's gonna be criticized, And it's fine

831
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: because I do love people's vani I do, and I

832
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: don't think anybody's wrong for happenings.

833
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 4: The communication that night when it does go down, and

834
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 4: you guys, the relationship with Kirk, Like, how is that

835
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 4: unfolding and going down? Because I'm sure if Kirk it

836
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 4: goes down as a surprise as well.

837
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: Heck yeah.

838
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 3: The hardest part is keeping an information and being as

839
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 3: transparent as you possibly can without having the uproar that

840
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 3: you get from those things. Right, So you can't potentially

841
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,600
Speaker 3: tell Kurt that the night before or while the draft's

842
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 3: going on. You have to tell them when you're on

843
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: a clock when the decision is made, because what if

844
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: it doesn't happen.

845
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 4: Right, and if it doesn't happen you're still thinking of

846
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 4: the conversation. They just said, like, man, are they going

847
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 4: to be thinking?

848
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: Or if you do it beforehand and now that those

849
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 3: a monkey rich in the planet, someone jumps you and

850
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 3: they take potentially a guy that you want. So because

851
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 3: something gets out from whatever source right at it's a

852
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 3: lot of moving parts and it's no right way of

853
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,240
Speaker 3: doing it, zero control until your so whatever lens you

854
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 3: look through, you can find some fault. So the first

855
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 3: thing I'd say with Kurt was, I apologize for not

856
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 3: being able to communicate how you want to. You know,

857
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 3: I don't apologize for the pickup I can. I apologize

858
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: for not being to communicate how you would like to.

859
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 3: But this changes nothing within your situation because Kirk comes

860
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: out and we went the next two Super Bowls.

861
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: Guy Kurt is the quarterback. He's the he's the guy. Yeah.

862
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 4: And even even in kirk situation when he came to Washington,

863
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 4: he was drafting the same classes is large.

864
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: What are you laughing at?

865
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 4: Yeah? Oh yeah, I know.

866
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then well knows, he's like, I gotta say something.

867
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: I know he's staring through me the soul. I mean,

868
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: you know, Appix is a stud. He is one of

869
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 2: those guys that I think Will was sitting there saying

870
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: you wanted the Raiders to get him.

871
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I'm sitting there like everybody else.

872
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 1: Oh ship, that's us.

873
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 3: And you know you always try to compare things to

874
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 3: different years, you know, like you know, why not at

875
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 3: why not later? I don't predict that, you know, like

876
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: these we had six quarterbacks going the top twelve picks, you.

877
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: Know, like hotcakes. They were going like over and over.

878
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 2: You have no idea when Penis was there.

879
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: Every every year is different.

880
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 3: You know, you compared to Jordan Love because they took

881
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 3: a quarterback, not because they went number they took him back.

882
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 3: You know where Aaron Rodgers was in this career. That's

883
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: not what you're doing. You talking about the young guy

884
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: with the older guy.

885
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: Right, But it's worked out for the Packers for last

886
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 2: like it seems like thirty years. I say, Brett Favre,

887
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers and then Jordan Love. What you say about.

888
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: Matt Lafor is pretty happy?

889
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: He gotta be happy.

890
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's pretty happy. It's cool, he says. And

891
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: he's cool.

892
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 2: So you you pick Panix, and then after you pick Panics,

893
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 2: you call Kirk and you're like, hey, listen, we couldn't

894
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 2: control when we called you.

895
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: I had to call Kirk.

896
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just that, this is how this game goes.

897
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: What Kirk's knows. He's been in the game for a

898
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: long time.

899
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 3: And as you guys know, your competitors right right, and

900
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: the quarterback is always different. It's always different. And you know,

901
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 3: I'm not expecting him to be happy, go lucky, but

902
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 3: I did expect him to be a man, and he

903
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 3: was more than you know. He called Penix, he texted me,

904
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 3: asked for the number, he called and me reached out.

905
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 3: And you know that the beauty of it was two

906
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 3: men it called him. He talked to the media the

907
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 3: next day. He didn't extant it. He didn't he didn't

908
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 3: talk about what they spoke about. I still don't know

909
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 3: what they talked about. But you know what, the grown

910
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 3: men goes all the way back to what we talked

911
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: about the beginning to show what to eat those means

912
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 3: when you talking about being the falcon and both of

913
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 3: those guys character.

914
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 4: Fitted how excit level, how excited were you and Terry

915
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,440
Speaker 4: to go out for the for the press conference. Uh,

916
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 4: it was funny because knowing they are.

917
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: About going out there. That sounds like a David Bacity problem.

918
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 3: Uh, And you know, like I'm not really shy when

919
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: it comes to media.

920
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: But it was like it was more of this.

921
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 3: It was more of we were so busy the rest

922
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 3: of that time, I can tell you now trying to

923
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 3: trade back in that it didn't really come up until

924
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: it was time to go downstairs and talk when we

925
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: couldn't get back in up.

926
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: I can't tell you.

927
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 4: That, but it's already happened.

928
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 3: I'm not going to tell you a snipe in.

929
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: How about where at what?

930
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 4: Like?

931
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 2: At what number were you guys.

932
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: Trying to trade into everywhere? I mean, it was all

933
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,959
Speaker 1: over place that we liked, all across the board. Ye wasn't.

934
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: It wasn't like a particular person at one spot. There

935
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 3: was different spots of people that you wanted in different layers.

936
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 3: So you know that that staff does a great job.

937
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 3: So it was like, you know, wasn't able to get done.

938
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 3: You go downstairs, you talk about the press conference, and

939
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 3: you understand that there are people involved in this business

940
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 3: and you got to have an excitement general excitement to

941
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 3: get Michael Pennix. And then there's also a empathy for

942
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 3: Kirk Cousins and and that's our job.

943
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 1: Deliver hard news.

944
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 2: Deliver hard news.

945
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: Keep it.

946
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: We have two minutes left, right okay, oh two minutes.

947
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 2: Two minutes, so we got to rattle a couple off

948
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: I have. I'm gonna give you two questions in a row.

949
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,439
Speaker 2: First one is this team needs a locker room guy.

950
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 2: They need a guy that's gonna come in and band

951
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 2: boys together and make sure to give you the next

952
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: step to make the playoffs and win the NFC South.

953
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: What are the chances that William Earl Compton the third

954
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: can get a work out with the Atlanta Falcons.

955
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: Uh None?

956
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 4: Right now, that's crazy.

957
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: That is You gotta appreciate him being directed. Appreciate it.

958
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: He is transmitter. He's so deliver hard information. Right now.

959
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 1: Will has not been training for what we do. What

960
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:10,839
Speaker 1: are you talking?

961
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:11,439
Speaker 2: He looks great.

962
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 3: It's not about the look. Will can go in to

963
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 3: beach right now and we're going to a beach and

964
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: I got to take a guy because Will he's gonna

965
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:17,879
Speaker 3: look good.

966
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 4: No, the way this guy's dropped. You know we're talking.

967
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 2: You guys have a better relationship, a chemistry here, both

968
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,440
Speaker 2: of us with our shirts on to get over Will.

969
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 3: He'll make me look better. I'm taking him for that,

970
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 3: but I the football team.

971
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,480
Speaker 4: Just give me eight weeks, eight weeks, eight weeks.

972
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: Team.

973
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: You didn't say, you didn't say trained, you said.

974
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 2: Now right, eight weeks.

975
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, you're you're eight weeks from now.

976
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,359
Speaker 3: I would take Will at any level if he thought

977
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 3: he can still do it, y'all.

978
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 4: Love rob Man back we are, We're back. No, ro

979
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 4: we were talking about before, and I'll sudden you this

980
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 4: before he came in. He's a guy that you were

981
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 4: telling the story. But a core memory of mine, like

982
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 4: one of my like I guess, like welcome to the

983
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 4: NFL type because coming from polining staff, if you like

984
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 4: missed the tackle or missed the play, you basically want

985
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 4: to you know, you want to kill yourself. And so

986
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 4: I had missed a tackle in the preseason game, I

987
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 4: think our first preseason game in Tennessee, and I remember

988
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 4: just being on the bench just like that's it. I'm

989
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 4: gonna get cut, uh, Kimbra A couple guys on that.

990
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 4: Keen Robinson goes down Day one, I go from like

991
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 4: the last spot. Now I'm working with the three. So

992
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 4: you get a few rips Jeremy Kimbro tears his hamstring.

993
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:26,480
Speaker 4: He's out, So now I get to play with the

994
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 4: twos in preseasons, somethinking this is my shot and I

995
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 4: miss his tackle and I just remember thinking like it's over.

996
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 4: It's over. And Row comes over and he's not my

997
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: position coach at the time. He's like, cop, why are

998
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 4: you hang.

999
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: Your Why are you hanging your head? Like, who gives

1000
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: a shit?

1001
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 4: You miss a tackle. You're in cover three. If you're

1002
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 4: gonna miss miss on the inside and make them go

1003
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,960
Speaker 4: outside of your play, you're good. Who cares? And I'm

1004
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 4: thinking in my head like not that, Oh, you can

1005
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: miss tackles in the league. But I'm thinking that that

1006
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 4: is exactly what I needed to hear that, Like get

1007
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 4: out of my own head because I'm thinking, like, man,

1008
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 4: this is this is gonna go bad. Because if a player,

1009
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 4: you remember that, if.

1010
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 2: A player tells you that, you're like whatever, You're like,

1011
00:38:59,360 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 2: oh my god.

1012
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 4: I have a player say you're like okay, yeah, good

1013
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,279
Speaker 4: for you, Bro, you're a start.

1014
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: It was the I don't know which game. I don't

1015
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: know the game.

1016
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 3: I don't know who we're playing, because you know preseasons,

1017
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: it's I'm out there really watching us and evaluating and

1018
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 3: just looking at players.

1019
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 4: You're trying to get Philip Thomas in the car rambow

1020
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 4: ready to go.

1021
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to get us already. Yeah. I was

1022
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: always been greedy. I've always wanted.

1023
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 3: Us to play well right, and you missed a tack

1024
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 3: on I believe my safety made the tack. I'm not

1025
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: sure which one it was. And I thought, what a

1026
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 3: great miss. You shot your gun. You play fast, physical

1027
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 3: and free Jimmy Lake, and you turned it over to us.

1028
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 3: We got him on the ground, we got off the grass,

1029
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 3: and I'm looking at a kid who just came from Nebraska,

1030
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: who just fought us way up. This free agent that

1031
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: is going up to our twos that I know that

1032
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 3: I were going to counter at one point, And I say, love, bro,

1033
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 3: that was a good job. You know, I like you

1034
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 3: to make it too, But like that was part of

1035
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: me building relationships with you because I knew you had

1036
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 3: a chance.

1037
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 2: Hey, that was so beautiful. Was the cool thing about

1038
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:56,839
Speaker 2: that story is is when we first got here, Will

1039
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: told me that story, which I've heard before, and then well,

1040
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 2: you we were grabbing coffee, you started telling that you

1041
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 2: guys both had the same recall that story, which is

1042
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 2: really cool, which means it meant a lot to both

1043
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 2: of you a moment and.

1044
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 3: I got so many memories of him because he was

1045
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 3: the linebacker, right, so he probably didn't even know, but

1046
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: like he had this crazy recall and we would talk

1047
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 3: about things and looks to own and things that you

1048
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 3: would say and I would always say it to com

1049
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: mm hmm. And con was the backup. But when you

1050
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 3: tell the backup, he reinforces it to the starters, right.

1051
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 3: And he was that type of guy. That's why I

1052
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: thought he would be a coach. But he's a reinforcer, man,

1053
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 3: He's a sounding board. And when he got a chance

1054
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 3: to play, there was not a bigger fan from wherever

1055
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 3: I was at watching them play back in DC and

1056
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 3: watching them play throughout his career after that point.

1057
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: I appreciate that man. That was awesome.

1058
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 2: I know, we gotta let you go. I'm and ask

1059
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 2: you one more question. And this is a very important

1060
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,319
Speaker 2: question because I have one too, So okay, we're gonna

1061
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 2: ask you two more questions are both very important questions.

1062
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: Hey, you are my guys bass right now. It is

1063
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: cringing back days on when you like, yeah, yeah, he.

1064
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: Can come on in. And when you when you gave

1065
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: him my number and we got on the phone and

1066
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,240
Speaker 4: chopped it up, He's like, oh, playoff, Willie.

1067
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah, hell yah that fires me up.

1068
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 4: And he was like, we got on the phone. He goes,

1069
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 4: we'll get raw right off the top, right out of practice,

1070
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 4: and he starts naming a couple of players. He's like,

1071
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 4: you know, we'll get a couple of players for you guys,

1072
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 4: and he names a couple of them. None of them

1073
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 4: were Kirk. So I'm thinking in my head like, okay,

1074
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 4: I know how this is gonna go. I'm just gonna

1075
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,439
Speaker 4: need I'm gonna need a text Kirk on my own

1076
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,479
Speaker 4: and lock it in before they can be like no,

1077
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 4: no Kirk.

1078
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: No Kirk.

1079
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: So anyway, that was my story.

1080
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: Is that the question too?

1081
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 4: No? My question is this have you been seeing have

1082
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 4: you been seeing Austin Rivers the Austin Rivers clip about

1083
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 4: the NFL players and NBA players?

1084
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: I have not.

1085
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 4: Okay, so my first question is who has the better

1086
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 4: athletes NFL or the NBA soccer That's not the question.

1087
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: Sorry, we can move on from that. That was a

1088
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 2: tough try.

1089
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: No, I want to hear athletes.

1090
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 3: I mean, the NBA game changed so much, Like okay,

1091
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: we're talking about the nineties basketball with Kobe and Iverson

1092
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 3: and then Michael Jordan. They'd have a fight right now.

1093
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: Is changed to a skill game. The the top four

1094
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 3: m vps don't have any athletes.

1095
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: The MVP.

1096
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 3: It's the worst athlete in the world, can't jump off

1097
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: a curve, but its a baller because of a skill set.

1098
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Speaker 3: Like his skill set is unbelievable. Touch around the basket.

1099
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 3: He's able to play Luka doncs like. I can't see

1100
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,919
Speaker 3: him tackling Bijeon right now. So when you're talking about

1101
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 3: just those two sports and athleticism, I'm giving us the

1102
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 3: skill set.

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Speaker 1: We got no chance against those dudes.

1104
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 4: I agree with you wholeheartedly.

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00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: We got They had a better argument back in the nineties.

1106
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,280
Speaker 2: Feel good to get a nice little compliment.

1107
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 4: But their white guys run around the court.

1108
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say white guys.

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00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 4: That was his words again, Yeah, those are my words.

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00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 4: I definitely speak from the international game.

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00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: The international game has changed basketball a little bit. Who

1112
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 1: comes to that.

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00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 3: It's more of a skill Steph Curry, you know, like

1114
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 3: he's changed basketball, Like you better be able to shoot

1115
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 3: or you can't play.

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00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what we needed.

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00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: Ye my last question, Okay, I mean are you running

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00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 2: a segment?

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00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 3: Look, Lebron is is just a dog. Like he's one

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Speaker 3: of the best athletes in the world. And I'm not

1121
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 3: like this like crazy Lebron fan because I'm in then

1122
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 3: argument and I'm on the other side. But I got

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00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 3: so much respectfulim. He's the most dominant player we've probably

1124
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: ever seen him in shack. You know when you talk

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00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: about the most dominant players, that that's the category of

1126
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 3: Lebron's in in my opinion, and then also the category

1127
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 3: of Lebron's in is like created the most hype in

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00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 3: the world and like surpassed it. You know, like we

1129
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 3: knew about Lebron like way before we should have known,

1130
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 3: and he surpassed that. So like, I don't ever want

1131
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 3: to dispect his greatness on camera. Now we get to

1132
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 3: those when we get to our arguments of the goat,

1133
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: you know, I may go the other way a little bit,

1134
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: but little animated. Yeah, I gotta give a couple you

1135
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: gotta get a couple of negative points to that.

1136
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, got to there's always gotta be a devil's advocate.

1137
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 2: So this is my last question and I will land

1138
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 2: this plane. You gotta stick with me. In the spring

1139
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 2: of twenty nineteen, a head coach for the Tennessee Titan

1140
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: sat on the bus and we asked him if he

1141
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: would cut his dick off for a Super Bowl, to

1142
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: which he answered the question saying yes, I would been

1143
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 2: married for thirty years why not? But I don't use

1144
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: it anyway. Now. That team started out two and four

1145
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 2: and ended up going to the AFC Championship to play

1146
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 2: the Kansas City Chiefs at Arrowhead Stadium. Before that game,

1147
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 2: the press asked them, you said you cut your dig

1148
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: off for a Super Bowl? Would you still do that,

1149
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: to which Mike Rabel replied, Nah, No, I wouldn't do that.

1150
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 4: I was just joking with them.

1151
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 2: I was just joking around with them. We're up ten

1152
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: zero in the first quarter against the Patton Mahomes Sity

1153
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: Chiefs ends up losing and the Chiefs go to the

1154
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. So Mike Rabel lost the Tennessee Titans the

1155
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, is what I'm saying. My question to you

1156
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: is what are you willing to do for the Atlanta

1157
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:30,880
Speaker 2: Falcons to win a Super Bowl.

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00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta do some drastic.

1159
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 2: Would cut it off, You've got to do some drastic

1160
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,879
Speaker 2: but like to get a Super Bowl ring.

1161
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: Here's what I'll say.

1162
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: Go ahead, King, do your thing.

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00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 3: Two thousand and two, twenty twenty one. The people, the

1164
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 3: relationships that you build, there's nothing in the world like it.

1165
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 3: And you would do almost anything the windows in a

1166
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 3: fair and equitable state. So there might be a few

1167
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,359
Speaker 3: limbs lost in order to get that feeling with these

1168
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 3: group of guys.

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Speaker 4: You take a limb off for the Super Bowl.

1170
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 3: I mean to win that thing, and think about this,

1171
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,840
Speaker 3: to bring a super Bowl championship to this city with

1172
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Speaker 3: this owner Arthur Blank, with these guys that have established

1173
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 3: this relationships and this bonding and this building and being

1174
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 3: around Pitts and and Bejeon for just such a short

1175
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 3: time in Draft London.

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Speaker 1: It is like, you know, like.

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Speaker 3: That's that's that's tough, bro, Like the twenty eight three thing,

1178
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 3: you know, like that that is hard.

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Speaker 1: That's Brady. But I'm that's football. But that's Brady. That's football. Like,

1180
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: think about doing that with these cats. That is like

1181
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: worth it.

1182
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 2: That's why I run it in a half.

1183
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: Look at that guy of course I'm running.

1184
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: Look at his traps, Lily Pop classic T shirt.

1185
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm out of here. You guys are going graphics.

1186
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 4: You take a limb off, I'm taking it off.

1187
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get with the limb, but I take

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00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: a limb.

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Speaker 4: Off the Hey, coach Roth, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you awesome. Appreciate