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<v Speaker 4>Hey welcome everybody. We are so glad to have your

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<v Speaker 4>tuning in. We loved you, We're praying for you. We

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<v Speaker 4>believe that twenty eighteen is going to be an amazing

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<v Speaker 4>year in your life, a year where God exceeds your expectations.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks for tuning in. I'm here with my beautiful wife Victoria,

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<v Speaker 4>my friend Nick Nielson. Nick. Can I see that I've

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<v Speaker 4>got a new book out. It's called Next Level Thinking.

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<v Speaker 4>It's ten powerful thoughts for a successful and Abundant Life,

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<v Speaker 4>and it comes out this Tuesday, but hope you'll pick

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<v Speaker 4>up a copy and we'll talk a little bit about it. Today.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sitting here with a couple of hundred of the finest,

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<v Speaker 4>most powerful anointed pastors and all of America right here.

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<v Speaker 4>So guys and ladies, thank you so much for being

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<v Speaker 4>with us. We're going to have a great time. But Nick,

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<v Speaker 4>thanks for being a part in Victoria. Say hello, Dinbo, No.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm excited about this webcast. We're going to have a

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<v Speaker 5>great time. And who doesn't want to go to the

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<v Speaker 5>next level in they're thinking, I know, I do.

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<v Speaker 4>So we have.

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<v Speaker 5>Amazing people here and Pastor Nick, you're always so great

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<v Speaker 5>at like bringing out those great points and so you know,

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<v Speaker 5>we're glad that you tuned in because you're really special

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<v Speaker 5>next level.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, we just want to have a conversation about

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<v Speaker 6>this book, Pastor and I just I think it's a

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<v Speaker 6>very relevant book, applicable book. But what what do you

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<v Speaker 6>hope people grab from this book. I mean, what's what's

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<v Speaker 6>the heart, what's the what's the biggest thing that you'd

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<v Speaker 6>hope people receive from it?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Nick, that I believe our life follows our thoughts,

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<v Speaker 4>and so so many times we're thinking defeating thoughts and

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<v Speaker 4>negative thoughts or limiting thoughts, and it's not God limiting us.

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<v Speaker 4>We're limiting ourselves worth our thinking. And so I'm encouraging

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<v Speaker 4>people in the book to you know, let's take the

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<v Speaker 4>limits off of God. My father used to say, you

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<v Speaker 4>will never rise any higher than the way you see yourself,

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<v Speaker 4>than what's going on in your mind. And most of

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<v Speaker 4>us know. But there's a recording that's constantly playing. You know.

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<v Speaker 4>The experts tell us that we talk to ourselves more

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<v Speaker 4>than we talk to anybody else because there's something playing it.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes we don't realize it, but the recording is negative.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just how we've grown up. As you know what.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll never be successful or Joey, You've got a big church,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'll never do anything great. I'll never get well,

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<v Speaker 4>I'll never break the addiction, or you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>as talented as my brother, I'm not as good looking,

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<v Speaker 4>as my friend. As long as those thoughts are negative,

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<v Speaker 4>we are limiting ourselves. And so I'm just encouraging us

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<v Speaker 4>to turn on the right recording. And that's what God

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<v Speaker 4>says about us. That we are blessed, that we are strong,

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<v Speaker 4>that we are fearfully and wonderfully made, that we're not average,

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<v Speaker 4>we are masterpieces. And even I think about sitting in

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<v Speaker 4>this building, you know what one thing we had to do.

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<v Speaker 4>When they told me the Compact Center was coming available.

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<v Speaker 4>My first thought, I told the guy, said, there's no

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<v Speaker 4>way we could afford that. That'll be two hundred million dollars.

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<v Speaker 4>My first thought was, you know, I wasn't even going

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<v Speaker 4>to pursue it. He said, no, Joel, the city only

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<v Speaker 4>owes seven and a half million dollars, and that cost

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit more than that for us to get it.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, when I heard that, I thought, you

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<v Speaker 4>know what, I can believe for seven and a half

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<v Speaker 4>million dollars. But you know what I had to take

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<v Speaker 4>the limits off of God. You know, I had grown

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<v Speaker 4>up here watching the Rockets play basketball, had season tickets

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<v Speaker 4>right back over there. In my wildest dreams. If you

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<v Speaker 4>would have told me, you know, twenty thirty years ago

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<v Speaker 4>that one day we would own the Compact Center. I said,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no way. That's not even fathomable. This is where

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<v Speaker 4>the Rockets won two world championships. It's the premier auditorium

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<v Speaker 4>in our facility. But you know what, only thing that

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<v Speaker 4>limits us is our own thinking. I just said, God,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, I don't see how it can work out,

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<v Speaker 4>but I know you're on the throne. I know you

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<v Speaker 4>controlled the universe. So I took the limits off of God.

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<v Speaker 4>And it doesn't happen automatically. But you know, when you

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<v Speaker 4>think like God thinks, when you take the limits off

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<v Speaker 4>of him, that's what allows God to do great things.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's what the book is about. Wherever you are,

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<v Speaker 4>God wants us to rise higher. He doesn't want us

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<v Speaker 4>to be at this same level next year as we

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<v Speaker 4>are right now. He wants us to go further. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think the first thing we have to do is

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<v Speaker 4>we have to take the limits off in our thinking

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<v Speaker 4>and say, God, I'm goost start thinking at the next level.

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<v Speaker 4>I almost start believing for bigger things. Yeah, God, you

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<v Speaker 4>being good to me. I'm not saying, you know, you

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<v Speaker 4>don't have to have a dediction or have some big

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<v Speaker 4>kind of problem. But sometimes you know how I do.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes life can just get routine and okay, I kind

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<v Speaker 4>of reach that level and that's kind of as good

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<v Speaker 4>as it gets and all that. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>you take the limits off of God and you watch

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<v Speaker 4>where God will take you.

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<v Speaker 6>There's ten thoughts, so each of them are phenomenal on

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<v Speaker 6>their own. Right there, there's chapter two years when I

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<v Speaker 6>I'm gonna just read a sentence.

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<v Speaker 4>That you wrote.

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<v Speaker 6>It says you are fully loaded and completely equipped for

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<v Speaker 6>the race that God's designed for. You talk a little

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<v Speaker 6>bit about what that means to you, being fully loaded.

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<v Speaker 6>So many people that we meet feel inadequate to do

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<v Speaker 6>the certain things that God's designed to do, step up

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<v Speaker 6>in the workplace, wherever they may be.

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<v Speaker 4>It's exactly how I felt, nick when my father went

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<v Speaker 4>to be with the Lord, and I knew down in

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<v Speaker 4>here I was supposed to step up and pasture the church.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know how to explain it. I just knew

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<v Speaker 4>that I was supposed to. But every thought told me, Joe,

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<v Speaker 4>you can't pass the church. You never been to seminary,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't have the training. You've ministered one time, and

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to take over your father's church of six

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<v Speaker 4>thousand people. I mean, everything in my mind said there

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<v Speaker 4>was no way. And part of it was just, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't feel equipped. I didn't feel empowered. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm naturally more quiet and reserved. I like being behind

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<v Speaker 4>the scenes. I was the one running the camera and

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<v Speaker 4>doing all the production. And you know, I used to

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<v Speaker 4>watch my dad and he was my hero. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>he could get up there speak and so powerful, and

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<v Speaker 4>you know he came out of that generation before me,

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<v Speaker 4>and they were fiery and man, he'd give you goosebumps.

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<v Speaker 4>And I thought, God, I don't have any of that.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have the personality, I don't have that fire

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<v Speaker 4>in me. But I realized that God would not have

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<v Speaker 4>given you the dream if he had not already equipped

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<v Speaker 4>you and empowered you. And so many of us have

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<v Speaker 4>things on the inside, gifts and talents that we've not

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<v Speaker 4>yet tapped into their line dormant and even for me,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think I was supposed to be ministering those

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<v Speaker 4>seventeen years. I was behind the scenes. It was all

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<v Speaker 4>a part of God's timing. But I can say this,

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<v Speaker 4>there are gifts in you that are dormant and at

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<v Speaker 4>the right time, God's going to open some things up

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<v Speaker 4>for you. He's going to open some new doors. But

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's important rather than feeling you know, I

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<v Speaker 4>kind of feel inadequate, not qualified, you know that insecure.

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<v Speaker 4>You've got to change that recording again and know that, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>I am equipped, I am empowered, I am fully loaded

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<v Speaker 4>with everything I need to fulfill my desk.

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<v Speaker 5>That's kind of the preparation part, isn't it. That whole

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<v Speaker 5>speaking to yourself when that potential is calling out, you're scared,

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<v Speaker 5>But it's when you start that recording going in the

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<v Speaker 5>right direction. It's part of the preparation because you said

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<v Speaker 5>yourself that. It took a little while and you had

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<v Speaker 5>to look at yourself in the mirror and you had

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<v Speaker 5>to just start talking to yourself and say, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Can do this today.

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<v Speaker 7>I have you know.

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<v Speaker 5>So I think sometimes people think, well, what's happening when

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<v Speaker 5>I'm doing this, or you're preparing yourself. When God opens

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<v Speaker 5>that door, then you're going to be ready to walk

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<v Speaker 5>through it.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've learned you can talk yourself into your dreams

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<v Speaker 4>or you can talk yourself out of your dreams. I

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<v Speaker 4>would have to go on Saturday nights when I first started,

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<v Speaker 4>and look myself in the mirror and said, Joe, you

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<v Speaker 4>can do this. You are strong in the Lord. You

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<v Speaker 4>are well able, you were equipped. You've been raised up

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<v Speaker 4>for such a time as this. If I hadn't done that,

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<v Speaker 4>if I would have let those thoughts play that you

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<v Speaker 4>know what, you don't have what it takes. You're not

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<v Speaker 4>as talented, you're not, I wouldn't be standing here today.

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<v Speaker 4>So I just encourage those of you and those of

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<v Speaker 4>you watching, take the limits. Take the limit off of God,

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<v Speaker 4>but take the limits off of yourself. Quit telling yourself

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<v Speaker 4>that you're lacking or you don't have enough talent or

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<v Speaker 4>enough experience. You may not, but God does. What He's

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<v Speaker 4>put in you is what you need to fulfill your destiny.

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<v Speaker 4>You are not lacking. You didn't get left out. God

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<v Speaker 4>didn't make a mistake when he made you. You were

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<v Speaker 4>not short changed. You are fearfully and wonderfully made. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 6>You talk a lot about knowing your value and knowing

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<v Speaker 6>that your value doesn't come from you do or your paycheck,

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<v Speaker 6>but just knowing that your value comes from your creator.

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<v Speaker 4>Talk about that.

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<v Speaker 6>It's here in chapter five, but just talk a little

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<v Speaker 6>bit about recognizing your value and just where your value

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<v Speaker 6>comes from, where it's based from.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Nick, just what you said that sometimes we're

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<v Speaker 4>trying to get our value out of what we do,

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<v Speaker 4>or how big my church is, or how big the

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<v Speaker 4>you know, out of people as well. And you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's a hard way to live because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>when you try to get your approval from people, the

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<v Speaker 4>problem is people can change, you know. You think about Jesus.

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<v Speaker 4>One day, wasn't Jesus coming into the town and they

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<v Speaker 4>were all saying Hosanna. It seems like it was three

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<v Speaker 4>days later. A week later they were saying crucifying. And

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<v Speaker 4>if you try to get your value out of other things,

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<v Speaker 4>even people. As much as I love Victoria, people can't

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<v Speaker 4>fill you with everything you need. So you've got to

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<v Speaker 4>go back to know that, you know what my approval

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<v Speaker 4>comes from the most high God. People may not approve me,

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<v Speaker 4>or you know, those thoughts try to push me down,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know what, it's not. I love that even

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<v Speaker 4>about Jesus here you know this, all these pastors, but

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<v Speaker 4>Jesus when he was baptized in water, when John the

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<v Speaker 4>Baptist baptized him, Jesus came up out of the water,

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<v Speaker 4>and the voice from heaven said, this is my beloved son,

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<v Speaker 4>whom I am well pleased. But when you think about it,

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<v Speaker 4>at that point, Jesus hadn't done one miracle, he hadn't

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<v Speaker 4>turned the water into wine, he hadn't opened a blind eye.

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<v Speaker 4>His father was pleased of him because of who he was.

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<v Speaker 4>And sometimes we think, well, God's not pleased to me, Joe,

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<v Speaker 4>I've got an addiction, or I've wasted years of my life,

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<v Speaker 4>or I've made these mistakes. Listen, that's what you did.

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<v Speaker 4>That's not who you are. God is smiling down on

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<v Speaker 4>you right now. He's made you in his image. And

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<v Speaker 4>if you'd get those thoughts out of your mind about

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, God's not pleased with me, And you

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<v Speaker 4>know what I'm not. I don't I don't measure up

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<v Speaker 4>to other people. Well, you don't have to measure up

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<v Speaker 4>to other people. You are uniquely made in your in

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<v Speaker 4>who God made you to be. So turn tune all

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<v Speaker 4>that out and know again that you are fearfully and

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<v Speaker 4>wonderfully made, that the creator of the universe breeds his

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<v Speaker 4>life into you. He knew you before you were formed

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<v Speaker 4>in your mother's womb. He didn't have you here in

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<v Speaker 4>this by accident. And if you'd turn off that that

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<v Speaker 4>old thinking and put some new thoughts that you know what,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm approved, I'm valuable, I'm accepted. I am a masterpiece

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<v Speaker 4>that's going to cause you to rise higher and become

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<v Speaker 4>who God's created you to be. So Chester Charles used

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<v Speaker 4>to leave us off. My friend, Pastor Charles Nieman. Pastor's

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<v Speaker 4>a great church, abundant living in el Pastor, I've been

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<v Speaker 4>there with you and we're very honored to have you here.

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<v Speaker 4>Pastor Charles, here, go ahead, Pastor.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, my uh. As you were talking today, and as

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<v Speaker 8>I was reading the book, and in particular I kind

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<v Speaker 8>of got caught up in the fifth chapter as you

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<v Speaker 8>were just mentioning there about value, and I couldn't help

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<v Speaker 8>but think about speaking of your dad. An incredible series

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<v Speaker 8>of teachings he did that really impacted my life years ago,

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<v Speaker 8>called thinking the thoughts of God and bringing that idea

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<v Speaker 8>I think is coming full circle in your book, this

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<v Speaker 8>idea that you know we all.

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<v Speaker 4>Have these thoughts.

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<v Speaker 8>But how do people hearing what you just said, how

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<v Speaker 8>would you say that people need to move from this

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<v Speaker 8>life of negativity or a moment of negativity that is

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<v Speaker 8>now taking control of their thinking. And you know, as

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<v Speaker 8>you know Solomon said, as a man thinking in his heart,

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<v Speaker 8>so is he. But where do they go? How do

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<v Speaker 8>they get the thoughts of God into their mind?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Pastor, you know, I believe they go back to

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<v Speaker 4>this scripture. They find out what God says about them.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think you do it one, one thought at

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<v Speaker 4>a time. You know, some people were, as I said,

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<v Speaker 4>they're just naturally negative. That's just the way they grew

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<v Speaker 4>up with. But I don't think we always realize that

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<v Speaker 4>we don't have to think whatever comes to our mind.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you can get up in the morning thing,

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<v Speaker 4>oh there's gonna be a lousy day and I don't

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<v Speaker 4>feel like going to work. You don't have to think that.

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<v Speaker 4>That next level thinking says, No, I'm wanna tune that out. Lord,

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<v Speaker 4>I want to think you this is a great day.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm grateful to be alive today. It's just taking control

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<v Speaker 4>of our mind. Even the scripture. You know, y'all teach

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<v Speaker 4>it better than me, But just about guarding your mind

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<v Speaker 4>and what's playing all day and again going back to

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<v Speaker 4>what God says about you and That's that's why every

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<v Speaker 4>service I tell the congregation, here I go, I want

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<v Speaker 4>to go over them all. But I am blessed, I

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<v Speaker 4>am prosperous, I am redeemed, forgiven, talented, creative discipline, focus, accepted, approved.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what needs to be playing in our mind all

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<v Speaker 4>through the day. And just because the thought comes doesn't

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<v Speaker 4>mean you have to think it.

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<v Speaker 5>You know too, it's a habit. When you start to

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<v Speaker 5>start thinking the right thoughts, you start recognizing when the

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<v Speaker 5>wrong thoughts come. And it's not a matter of you know,

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<v Speaker 5>you just stop, you say, oh, that's not the thoughts

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<v Speaker 5>I want to think. So I think the more you

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<v Speaker 5>do it, it's like you said, just a thought at

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<v Speaker 5>a time, you can catch when the wrong thoughts come.

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<v Speaker 5>And that's so important.

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<v Speaker 4>I like to think of it. I've heard the example

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<v Speaker 4>of it's like a river bed. Maybe that river bed

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<v Speaker 4>has been flowing one way for forty years, just negative thoughts. Well,

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<v Speaker 4>one thought at a time. Every day you think the

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<v Speaker 4>right thoughts, you think positive faith, field, think on things

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<v Speaker 4>that are truth. Well, you're digging that riverbed the other way.

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<v Speaker 4>May not turn around overnight, but I believe over time,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've talked to people that have been negative their

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<v Speaker 4>whole life and just doubters and just down on themselves. Insecure,

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<v Speaker 4>you start turning it one day at a time, one

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<v Speaker 4>thought at a time, that riverbed is going to start

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<v Speaker 4>running the other way. And two I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>God's given us all different personalities, and I've naturally been

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<v Speaker 4>optimistic and positive. You know, other people have a friend

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<v Speaker 4>tell me, he says, I can take a positive message

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<v Speaker 4>and preach it a negative way. I'm just negative, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>But I think you can naturally. You can naturally change.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think it's you know, so much of life

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<v Speaker 4>is is perspective. You know, it's what we're looking at today.

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<v Speaker 4>We're looking at what's wrong or you know what I'm

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<v Speaker 4>looking at what's right, looking at what I don't have,

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<v Speaker 4>or looking at what I do have, And it's just

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<v Speaker 4>back to our thinking, and you know, thinking those right thoughts.

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<v Speaker 5>You don't even have to be a negative person per se.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm not a negative person. I would consider myself a

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<v Speaker 5>positive person. But I know when I think positive thoughts

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<v Speaker 5>on purpose, it changes the atmosphere of my mind. It

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<v Speaker 5>takes and elevates me to that next level. So it's

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<v Speaker 5>not that you can be saying, well, I'm not necessarily negative,

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<v Speaker 5>but are you thinking positive thoughts on purpose? And I

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<v Speaker 5>think that's that's a great key as well.

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<v Speaker 6>I just like how you alluded to it's a journey.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a process that we don't have to get this

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<v Speaker 6>thing right away, that it's one thing at a time.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe maybe you think better right now than you did

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<v Speaker 6>a year ago, and it's just a journey for people.

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<v Speaker 6>Some people expect to be so perfect in their thought

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<v Speaker 6>life right away, right around the corner, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 6>this is a process, this is a journey beginning habitually

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<v Speaker 6>do it.

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<v Speaker 4>So that's awesome, Pastor Torey Roberts One Church LA One

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<v Speaker 4>Church is what Potter's House Denver, and awesome to have you, tore.

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<v Speaker 9>Thank you so much, and thank you for writing this book.

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<v Speaker 4>I like it.

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<v Speaker 9>It's next level thinking. And we all know that our

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<v Speaker 9>insides determine our outsides, and so a lot of times

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<v Speaker 9>the barrier, as you so eloquently wrote about in this book,

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<v Speaker 9>the barrier is not that the opportunity isn't there, it's

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<v Speaker 9>just their restrictions in our thinking. One chapter that really

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<v Speaker 9>stood out to me was a chapter where you dealt

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<v Speaker 9>with shame because a lot of times the opportunity is

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<v Speaker 9>there and we want to think positively, but there's almost

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<v Speaker 9>like a cap on what we believe that God can

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<v Speaker 9>do for us because we've got shame about something that happened.

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<v Speaker 4>How do you if there's.

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<v Speaker 9>Someone out there that's dealing with shame, how do you

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<v Speaker 9>attack shame? Get that cap off of your life so

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<v Speaker 9>that you can move forward.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think Torey again, it goes back to that

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<v Speaker 4>thought of you know, you are not what you did,

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<v Speaker 4>You are not what happened to you. You you were

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<v Speaker 4>a child of the Most High God. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>even you know, from when we were little children, sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>you know, shame on you. You shouldn't have done a shame

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<v Speaker 4>on you, But you just got to rise up and say,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, shame off me. I am a child

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<v Speaker 4>of the Most High God. I'm going to I'm not

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<v Speaker 4>going to live beating myself up. And you know it's

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<v Speaker 4>funny how people beat themselves up and it wasn't their fault,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's just a natural tendency. And so these

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<v Speaker 4>are decisions we have to make. It starts in our

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<v Speaker 4>mind and life is too short to live it. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>full of shame and guilt, and you know whether you

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<v Speaker 4>messed up or whether somebody didn't treat you right or

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<v Speaker 4>whatever it is. It's a new day. God's mercies are

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<v Speaker 4>fresh and new every morning. Why don't you, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>shame off you and start saying, you know what I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to be who God's called me to be. There's

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<v Speaker 4>no mistake you made that has to keep you from

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<v Speaker 4>your destiny. And I really believe there's nothing somebody else

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<v Speaker 4>has done to you that has to keep you from

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<v Speaker 4>your purpose as well. It may not have been fair,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm not saying that life is always fair, but

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<v Speaker 4>God has that way of giving you beauty for ashes

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<v Speaker 4>take and what was meant for harm in using it

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<v Speaker 4>to your advantage. Pastor Keith and Sheila Kraft pastor Elevate

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<v Speaker 4>Life Church in Frisco, Texas, and been friends of ours

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<v Speaker 4>for many years. Thanks for being here and go ahead.

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<v Speaker 10>Keith, thank you. It's an honor. I love the title

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<v Speaker 10>of your book because we believe in you elevate your thinking,

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<v Speaker 10>you elevate your life. So it's masterful.

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<v Speaker 8>Really.

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<v Speaker 10>In the first chapter, you tell a story about your

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<v Speaker 10>dad and that he really did you a great service

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<v Speaker 10>by taking you to the place where he was born

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<v Speaker 10>and to the neighborhood where he was born, to know

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<v Speaker 10>the house that he lived in wasn't there. There was

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<v Speaker 10>a neighbor who had lived there his whole life. Was

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<v Speaker 10>actually sitting on the front porch when you guys drove

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<v Speaker 10>up and your dad addressed him. And one of the

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<v Speaker 10>things you say in your book is you say, when

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<v Speaker 10>you break a barrier, you make it easier for those

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<v Speaker 10>who come after you. And so talk about that because

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<v Speaker 10>just about thinking a certain way, but it's understanding the

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<v Speaker 10>way that you think, your next level thinking is going

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<v Speaker 10>to determine how those that come after you think.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's a powerful point, Keith, You're exactly right. And

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<v Speaker 4>I want you to tell that story about your dad too,

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<v Speaker 4>real quick in a second, because that's real powerful. I've

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<v Speaker 4>used that. But yeah, So my father was raised in poverty.

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<v Speaker 4>He grew up during the Great Depression and his family

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<v Speaker 4>had lost everything and just there were great people, but

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<v Speaker 4>they were poor. He barely had enough food and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>clothing to go to school. But at seventeen years of age,

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<v Speaker 4>my father gave his life to Christ and the first

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<v Speaker 4>one in his family and he you know, he felt

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<v Speaker 4>like God called him to preach. He hitchhiked and he

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<v Speaker 4>started preaching. And his family thought, you know, he's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Why would you leave the farm. This is all you

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<v Speaker 4>know how to do. But my dad went on, obviously

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<v Speaker 4>to found Lakewood and pastor great churches all over the world.

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<v Speaker 4>But one thing that what he told me, He said, Joel,

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<v Speaker 4>I when I gave my life to Christ at seventeen,

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<v Speaker 4>I made a decision that my children would never be

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<v Speaker 4>raised in the poverty that I was raised in. So

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<v Speaker 4>my father he rose up by the decisions that he

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<v Speaker 4>made and by the grace of God, and he broke

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<v Speaker 4>the curse of poverty in our family. And you know, today,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, we're blessed because my father took a stand.

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<v Speaker 4>So I am. I mean, I'll be the first to

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<v Speaker 4>tell you I'm reaping seeds because my mother and my

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<v Speaker 4>father have planted and sewed, and you know, broke that

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<v Speaker 4>curse of poverty. But later in life, my dad, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he loved to reminisce his Joel Victoria drive back to Paris, Texas,

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<v Speaker 4>where he grew up. And so we went back and

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<v Speaker 4>we found the old farm where he lived on the

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<v Speaker 4>house was gone, but we found the well was still there.

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<v Speaker 4>And he used to tell me he had to walk

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<v Speaker 4>two miles to school. And we looked in this school

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<v Speaker 4>was like one hundred yards away, not so big in

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<v Speaker 4>your mind, but he could not convince the guy said, no,

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<v Speaker 4>that was the school. No, it was two miles away.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, so we got there, you know, then we

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<v Speaker 4>drove around. He went to find some friends and this

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<v Speaker 4>guy sitting on his front porch and house had a whole,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, roof had leaks in and it was one

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<v Speaker 4>of even hardly a house. It was a shit. And

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<v Speaker 4>the guy was out there without his shirt on, just

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<v Speaker 4>kind of killing time. And I said, you wasn't a

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<v Speaker 4>good person. But my dad walked up and said, you

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<v Speaker 4>know whatever his name was, and he said, hey, this

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<v Speaker 4>is John Ostein. Hadn't spoken to him in like sixty years.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, my dad got to talk and what

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<v Speaker 4>did you do? Sh worked at the boat shop a

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<v Speaker 4>little way, and I did this for a little while,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and got laid off back then. My back's

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<v Speaker 4>been hurting, but I just thought, man, what a difference

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<v Speaker 4>when somebody raises up and sets a new standard. It

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<v Speaker 4>didn't you know what, nothing against the gentleman there. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>he didn't do it, But I thought, look at the

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<v Speaker 4>two My dad had touched people all over the world,

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<v Speaker 4>had a you know, a family that was doing great things.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's so important that man. You can become a

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<v Speaker 4>burier breaker, you can rise out of any dysfunction or

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<v Speaker 4>just out of the I believe God wants every generation

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<v Speaker 4>to increase. That's why when my dad went to be

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<v Speaker 4>with Lord, people used to ask me, do you think

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<v Speaker 4>you can continue on what your father started? And here

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't have any experience, but something down in here.

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<v Speaker 4>I would tell them, not arrogantly at all, I'd say,

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<v Speaker 4>you know what, I think I can not only carry

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<v Speaker 4>it on, but I think we can go further because

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<v Speaker 4>it's the way God designed it. He didn't want us

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<v Speaker 4>to go backwards. He wants every generation to increase. We

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<v Speaker 4>want our children to go further as well. So why

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<v Speaker 4>don't you go break some barriers for your family. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>nobody broke the four minute mile for you know, forever

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<v Speaker 4>in history. Then the guy broke it, and then after that,

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<v Speaker 4>within like six months, forty three other people broke it.

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<v Speaker 4>And it's like the burial was in our mind that

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<v Speaker 4>we can't break a four minute mile. I can't be successful,

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<v Speaker 4>I can't break this addiction. You know what, you have

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<v Speaker 4>the power of the most time God on the inside

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<v Speaker 4>of you. You'd be amazed at what you can do. Keith,

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<v Speaker 4>tell us that story. It's really powerful.

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<v Speaker 10>My dad. I was about eleven years old, and my

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<v Speaker 10>dad said, hey, come get in the car, and I

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<v Speaker 10>had no idea where we were going. Three hours later,

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<v Speaker 10>we were in front of a house that was very similar

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<v Speaker 10>to what you described shack. No wind is on the

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<v Speaker 10>on the on the you know, no glass on the

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<v Speaker 10>wind is the door is broken down going in the house,

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<v Speaker 10>and we walk in the house and this floor was dirt.

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<v Speaker 10>There was a one piece of furniture, and there was

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<v Speaker 10>an old man sitting over in the corner. And we

0:23:06.520 --> 0:23:08.640
<v Speaker 10>walked over there and I was holding my dad's hand,

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<v Speaker 10>and he said, hey, Dad, I never I'd never met

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<v Speaker 10>my grandfather. And my dad had a bag of money

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<v Speaker 10>for him and some candy and my grandfather, which I

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<v Speaker 10>didn't even know that's who it was, but didn't really

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<v Speaker 10>if you acknowledged me, didn't say hello, but my dad

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<v Speaker 10>just talked to him for a minute. I kind of

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<v Speaker 10>walked away, and we were there for about ten minutes

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<v Speaker 10>and we walked out of the house and I remember

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<v Speaker 10>looking up at my dad and I said, Dad, I

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<v Speaker 10>never want to go back there, and he said, that's

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<v Speaker 10>why I brought you here, because this is where we're from.

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<v Speaker 10>But this is not who we are. And it's so

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<v Speaker 10>impacted my life that I said, you know what, I

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<v Speaker 10>can be somebody. I can be somebody, And not that

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<v Speaker 10>that my grandfather that I never saw again, never met again,

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<v Speaker 10>never talked to him, Not that he wasn't a good man,

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<v Speaker 10>that's not the The point is is that where wherever

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<v Speaker 10>you come from, that doesn't have to be who you are.

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<v Speaker 4>You can break a barrier.

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<v Speaker 11>Yes, So right, wow, Tester Chad You up next, Sir

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<v Speaker 11>Pester chad Row from Destiny World, Outreaching Colleen, Texas ministers

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<v Speaker 11>to a lot of the soldiers and people that have

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<v Speaker 11>away at the military.

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<v Speaker 12>Largest armored base in the free world there in Colleen.

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<v Speaker 12>So almost all the soldiers of military are come from there.

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<v Speaker 12>And so we've taken an honor, you know, pastor Joe

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<v Speaker 12>in your book next level thinking, it's just so amazing.

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<v Speaker 12>And I noticed in the chapter two about being fully loaded,

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<v Speaker 12>and how what I took out of that is about

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<v Speaker 12>running your race and staying in your lane and not

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<v Speaker 12>trying to run other people's races, because it's easy, I

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<v Speaker 12>know in my life, to get caught up and seeing

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<v Speaker 12>what everybody else is doing, how great everybody else is,

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<v Speaker 12>and you might try to get in that race and

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<v Speaker 12>run their race and their lane instead of being fully

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<v Speaker 12>loaded and annoying it. As you've said, for the race

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<v Speaker 12>that God has put in you. I grew up to

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<v Speaker 12>honor vessels men of God. But one thing I noticed

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<v Speaker 12>in reading your book, it's not so much the vessel

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<v Speaker 12>but the anointing on the vessel. And that's what I

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<v Speaker 12>loved about that is how how does somebody recognize that

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<v Speaker 12>and stay focused on their race and in their lane

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<v Speaker 12>when there's so much other things going on around you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's such an important point, Chad, it really is.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me get to that question a minute, but it

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<v Speaker 4>reminds me that I think I used the analogy in

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<v Speaker 4>the Book of you know when King Saul killed thousands

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<v Speaker 4>and then they started, well, yeah, the people started singing

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<v Speaker 4>after this great victory. King Saul has killed thousands, and

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<v Speaker 4>David had killed tens of thousands. I can only imagine

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<v Speaker 4>when King King Saul has killed thousands, they're singing about me. Man,

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<v Speaker 4>that's great. Everything was fine, I can imagine until he

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:55.960
<v Speaker 4>heard what they say David's killed tens of thousands. His

0:25:56.040 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 4>whole attitude changed. He wasn't content with being one thousand

0:26:01.160 --> 0:26:05.080
<v Speaker 4>person versus ten thousand, you know, defeated person. So you know,

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:07.800
<v Speaker 4>sometimes you have to accept, Hey, God, this is who

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<v Speaker 4>you made me to be. I may not have killed

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<v Speaker 4>ten thousand, but I've killed a thousand. I'm gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>happy with with what you've given me to do with

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<v Speaker 4>the gifts you've given me. And I really believe Saul

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<v Speaker 4>missed his destiny because he was jealous of somebody else

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<v Speaker 4>if he could have just celebrated them. And I think

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<v Speaker 4>it is. And when you're talking about being fully loaded

0:26:25.600 --> 0:26:28.119
<v Speaker 4>and totally equipped, hey, you may not be I may

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<v Speaker 4>not be Tdjake, so I may not be somebody else,

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<v Speaker 4>But you know what, You've got to be the best

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<v Speaker 4>that you can be and celebrate somebody else. That's what

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<v Speaker 4>I love about it. I've got a great team around me.

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:39.639
<v Speaker 4>I've got brothers and sisters and brothers in laws. You

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<v Speaker 4>know what I'm the younger brother, the younger than some

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<v Speaker 4>of them, but they all celebrate me. But when you

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<v Speaker 4>recognize who you are and you're content and who God

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 4>made you to be, I think it's so important. You know, Chad,

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<v Speaker 4>it's the distractions. It's looking at that and you know

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<v Speaker 4>somebody else, Well, God, why didn't you give me that?

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<v Speaker 4>Or God, why am my church bigger? Well? God, why

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<v Speaker 4>can't I? You know what, you got to tune all

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 4>that up out and be content and be happy with

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:04.520
<v Speaker 4>who God made you to be. The fact is somebody

0:27:04.560 --> 0:27:07.120
<v Speaker 4>would love to have what you have. Somebody would gladly

0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:09.919
<v Speaker 4>trade places with you. And it's easy to be happy

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:13.639
<v Speaker 4>until you start comparing and competing with other people. I

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<v Speaker 4>remember one time I was running through my neighborhood and

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<v Speaker 4>I have this path I run. It's two mile path,

0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:21.639
<v Speaker 4>and when there's this long boulevard, probably a mile, and

0:27:22.080 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 4>I saw a guy about all two blocks in front

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<v Speaker 4>of me, you know, a few hundred yards, and I

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<v Speaker 4>just I just you know, I'm just feeling competitive. I

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:30.800
<v Speaker 4>want to raise somebody. I thought I'm gonna race him.

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<v Speaker 4>And so he's running up there, and man, he's going

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<v Speaker 4>pretty good, but I'm gaining on him and gaining on him,

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 4>panting I'm just trying to beat him, and I finally

0:27:38.960 --> 0:27:41.679
<v Speaker 4>just kept going and going and going. I finally beat him.

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<v Speaker 4>Now he didn't know we're racing, but I beat him.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, the funny thing is when I finally

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 4>beat him, I looked up and I thought, oh man,

0:27:48.240 --> 0:27:50.719
<v Speaker 4>I'm this my turn. It was way back there. I

0:27:50.760 --> 0:27:53.119
<v Speaker 4>was supposed to turn it three blocks before, but I

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 4>was so focused and I'm gonna beat this guy that

0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 4>doesn't even know I'm racing him, but you know, you know,

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:00.679
<v Speaker 4>and I just turn. But I think that's what we

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:02.919
<v Speaker 4>do in life. A lot of times. I'm not racing

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<v Speaker 4>after any of y'all. I'm not racing after anybody else.

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.600
<v Speaker 4>I'm racing against myself to be the best that God's

0:28:08.640 --> 0:28:10.720
<v Speaker 4>called me to be. So I love that scripture. Don't

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:12.360
<v Speaker 4>look to the left nor to the right. Be who

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:15.479
<v Speaker 4>God's called you to be. Celebrate somebody that's ahead of you.

0:28:16.080 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 4>God blessing them doesn't stop God from blessing you. Like

0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 4>God ran out of favor because he gave them so much,

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:27.560
<v Speaker 4>God has favor, and really, unlike Saul and David, God

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 4>can do for you what he did for the others,

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:32.639
<v Speaker 4>God can take you further. We talked about earlier. I

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:34.720
<v Speaker 4>think off camera that did a lot of those times.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just a test. I wonder if Saul would have

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:40.840
<v Speaker 4>celebrated King David. I don't know, but I just encourage

0:28:40.840 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 4>you to be content with what God's given you. You're

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:46.200
<v Speaker 4>not lacking, but God's given us all different gifts and

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:48.200
<v Speaker 4>you have to be we have to be wise enough

0:28:48.200 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 4>and contend enough to accept it. How you Joe Evan Connor,

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<v Speaker 4>pastor of Tell Then of your church.

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<v Speaker 13>We're a truth family church. We're in Arlington, Texas.

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<v Speaker 4>And you got your new building opening up this in

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.160
<v Speaker 4>six weeks. That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 6>We're excited about it.

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<v Speaker 4>We are so happy for you. These guys, Evan and

0:29:06.520 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 4>Sarah are great pastors there and just faithful people. And

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:12.440
<v Speaker 4>I love what God's doing. And you know, thirteen years

0:29:12.440 --> 0:29:15.800
<v Speaker 4>being in a mobile church, setting up, tearing down a

0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 4>lot of people would have gotten discouraged. But man, I

0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 4>admire you guys.

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<v Speaker 13>Almost seven hundred times we've had to do that. Wow,

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<v Speaker 13>but God's been faithful.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, we're blessed to have you here.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah, I'm excited about your new book. I'm just excited

0:29:29.320 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 13>that you let me read the pre released version. It's

0:29:32.320 --> 0:29:33.920
<v Speaker 13>so good, I'm going to buy the real one when

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:34.440
<v Speaker 13>it comes out.

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<v Speaker 4>I was reading.

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<v Speaker 13>Chapter eight and Approve Yourself, and you said something I

0:29:41.080 --> 0:29:43.840
<v Speaker 13>thought was powerful. You said, the problem with not liking

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<v Speaker 13>yourself is that you're the only person who can you

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:48.400
<v Speaker 13>can never get away from.

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<v Speaker 6>And I thought, wow.

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<v Speaker 13>I think that's one of the biggest things that hold

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 13>people back, is that we.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't like ourselves.

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 13>And I think it's because we think God doesn't like us.

0:29:59.440 --> 0:30:02.600
<v Speaker 13>And in your book, you really help us understand. One

0:30:02.600 --> 0:30:05.080
<v Speaker 13>of the things you say in the book is God

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 13>said about Jesus, this is my beloved son and whom

0:30:07.720 --> 0:30:10.280
<v Speaker 13>I'm well pleased. And Jesus hadn't done one miracle.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think if we.

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<v Speaker 13>See through God's lenses like he sees us, then we

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:17.400
<v Speaker 13>will accept ourselves.

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 4>He's not looking for perfection.

0:30:18.920 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 13>Jesus already done that. He's looking you know, maturity is

0:30:22.040 --> 0:30:24.080
<v Speaker 13>the life that we are to live and not perfection.

0:30:24.160 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 13>And maturity is a destination.

0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 4>It's not a journey.

0:30:27.080 --> 0:30:28.640
<v Speaker 13>It's a journey, not of destination.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 13>About your new book, and I do believe it's going

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<v Speaker 13>to bless a whole lot of people. My question would be,

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<v Speaker 13>how important do you feel it's necessary for someone to

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<v Speaker 13>approve of themselves?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah? I think Evan, it's incredibly important, because you can't

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<v Speaker 4>if you go through life you got enough people, and

0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 4>we have enough people in life against us. You can't

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 4>go through life being against yourself. I mean, I think

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:56.480
<v Speaker 4>the reason we don't have healthy relationships and a lot

0:30:56.520 --> 0:30:58.600
<v Speaker 4>of times and not because somebody else, is because we

0:30:59.080 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 4>don't get along with our selves, so we can't get

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 4>along with somebody else. So again it goes back to

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 4>what we've been talking about turning off the negative recording. Hey,

0:31:07.640 --> 0:31:09.600
<v Speaker 4>you have some flaws and weakness, say so do I

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:12.360
<v Speaker 4>soor to Victorian more than me? So you all got

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.320
<v Speaker 4>we all have put we all have plenty of these.

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:17.560
<v Speaker 4>Why don't you turn off that recording and put beating

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:21.000
<v Speaker 4>yourself up? My goodness, life is too short to live

0:31:21.120 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 4>beating yourself down and just being against yourself and thinking

0:31:24.360 --> 0:31:27.480
<v Speaker 4>how everybody else is greater. But I just think you

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:31.040
<v Speaker 4>know everything you said, Evan is so important that you

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 4>know when you're against yourself, you're not going to reach

0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 4>your full potential. Well, I'll explain it better in the book.

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 4>But you know, I think the key is turning off.

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 4>Get the right recording in your mind. Our thoughts are

0:31:42.760 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 4>limiting us. It's not the enemy, it's not others. It's

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 4>people like you.

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:48.880
<v Speaker 5>I like that you look at people like they all

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:49.959
<v Speaker 5>like you.

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:52.320
<v Speaker 4>You see people the way you see yourself. So you

0:31:52.360 --> 0:31:55.440
<v Speaker 4>see your self defeated, you see yourself insecure, you see

0:31:55.440 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 4>yourself unattractive. Then you're putting that out everywhere you go,

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 4>even bodyline, you know, and this I don't measure up

0:32:02.120 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 4>and stuff. You got to see yourself differently. And the

0:32:05.280 --> 0:32:07.360
<v Speaker 4>story of the Ten Spies. They came back and they

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 4>said we were in our own sits as grasshoppers as

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:13.200
<v Speaker 4>we were in their sights. They didn't say those guys

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:16.120
<v Speaker 4>over there in the Promised Land they called us grasshoppers.

0:32:16.200 --> 0:32:19.120
<v Speaker 4>They said we felt like we were grasshoppers. And I

0:32:19.120 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 4>think there's a lot of people living with that grasshopper mentality.

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:24.480
<v Speaker 4>When you're a child of the most taied God, when

0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 4>he's breathed life into you, when he's crowned you with favor,

0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 4>when you have seeds of greatness, imagine God, or imagine

0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 4>you know, an analogy of imagine your child coming up

0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:36.640
<v Speaker 4>and oh Dad, please can I have something to eat? Please?

0:32:36.680 --> 0:32:39.440
<v Speaker 4>Can I do this? I'm not worthy man. We would think,

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:42.520
<v Speaker 4>who are you? You know? Stand up tall, You're my son.

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:44.480
<v Speaker 4>And that's what God said to all of us, Stand

0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.800
<v Speaker 4>up tall. I made you, I created you. Yeah, we've

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 4>all made mistakes, we all have weaknesses, but I can't

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 4>find hardly, hardly anybody in the Bible God's used that

0:32:54.480 --> 0:32:57.360
<v Speaker 4>didn't have flaws and weaknesses, you know, that didn't make

0:32:57.400 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 4>some mistakes, but that didn't disqualify them. God used them

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 4>in spite of that. But you have to turn off

0:33:03.000 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 4>that recording. If I'm not good enough and the insecurity

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:07.720
<v Speaker 4>and God could never use me, you turn that off.

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:10.960
<v Speaker 4>And that's what allows God to do great things. It's

0:33:11.040 --> 0:33:13.800
<v Speaker 4>not that God's holding us back. So many times, were

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:18.760
<v Speaker 4>holding us back with the wrong thinking. Pastor rich Wilkerson

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 4>from Trinity Trinity Fellowship in what city, CA? You? Miami? Yeah,

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 4>I been friends of mine for friends of ours for

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:30.240
<v Speaker 4>so many years. Rich and Robert, your son Richie pastors in.

0:33:31.680 --> 0:33:33.000
<v Speaker 7>About ten miles from us.

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 4>Ten miles from you have another son pastors in New York.

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, hard with him the other day and I got

0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:39.080
<v Speaker 7>another one pastoring in the Seattle area.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, so we're real blessed. Well thanks for being here.

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<v Speaker 7>I was really impressed with the chapter on Live as

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:51.480
<v Speaker 7>a bold Son. I just thought about your family because

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:54.280
<v Speaker 7>it was in nineteen eighty five and I was just

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 7>about bleeding to death in the hospital and your dad,

0:33:57.360 --> 0:33:59.680
<v Speaker 7>I don't even know how you got my number in

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:05.240
<v Speaker 7>a hospital, and brother John called and said, brother Rich,

0:34:06.080 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 7>this is brother O's thing, and he said, Dode, he's

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:11.279
<v Speaker 7>got something to tell you.

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:14.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm like bleeding, you know.

0:34:15.239 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 7>And your mom got on the phone said Rich, get

0:34:18.640 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 7>out of that hospital.

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 4>Now, that place may kill you. Get out.

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:26.280
<v Speaker 7>I'm gonna pray for you right now. She started praying,

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 7>quoting verses over me. And I really I checked out

0:34:30.280 --> 0:34:32.880
<v Speaker 7>that day. I literally checked out that day, and God

0:34:32.920 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 7>heal me of a blood disease. And I think about

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:41.400
<v Speaker 7>that legacy that's on you. And I was just in

0:34:41.440 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 7>Brooklyn and saw Jonathan and Alexandria on the stage and

0:34:45.360 --> 0:34:48.840
<v Speaker 7>Jonathan got up and just started kind of preaching and

0:34:48.920 --> 0:34:51.239
<v Speaker 7>everyone's just gonna go WHOA. And it just seems like

0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 7>it was a generational thing. And I want you to

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 7>talk to that. But the chapter that got me was

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:01.400
<v Speaker 7>move up to next level thinking. The book is called

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:03.080
<v Speaker 7>next Level Thinking.

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<v Speaker 4>But the chapter that I like, do it? Yeah, now

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 4>do it?

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:10.479
<v Speaker 7>I mean, and I think that is where so many

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 7>of us kind of have a roadblock. Yeah we want

0:35:13.520 --> 0:35:15.120
<v Speaker 7>to have next level thinking?

0:35:15.200 --> 0:35:17.200
<v Speaker 4>But how do you do that?

0:35:17.400 --> 0:35:19.839
<v Speaker 7>And and in that chapter you just talk about, Hey,

0:35:19.880 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 7>let's let's make the let's make a decision. Let's still

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 7>talk about that, Joe.

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:26.319
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think Rich just what you said, It's just

0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 4>a decision we have to make. It's not maybe not

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 4>going to fall on us, not going to you know,

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:34.359
<v Speaker 4>something supernaturally happened, but just by the act of your

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:36.680
<v Speaker 4>will to say, you know what I am going to

0:35:37.040 --> 0:35:38.839
<v Speaker 4>you know, talk a lot about in that chapter about

0:35:38.840 --> 0:35:41.879
<v Speaker 4>it is finished. This, this function is finished. This, this

0:35:42.080 --> 0:35:45.479
<v Speaker 4>mediocrity is finished. This bad attitude is finished. This living

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 4>negative and not enjoying my life, it is finished. Well,

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:50.200
<v Speaker 4>you've got to just like Jesus said on the cross

0:35:50.360 --> 0:35:52.319
<v Speaker 4>when he said it is finished, he wasn't just talking

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 4>about his life. He was talking about all the shame,

0:35:54.680 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 4>the guilt, all the stuff that's trying to hold us back.

0:35:58.000 --> 0:35:59.920
<v Speaker 4>Doesn't do us any good though, unless we get an

0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:03.000
<v Speaker 4>agreement with God and say, Okay, tonight is going to

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 4>be a new night of victory in my life. You

0:36:05.080 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 4>just draw that line in the sand and you decide

0:36:07.680 --> 0:36:10.960
<v Speaker 4>to make you start making better decision. But when I've

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 4>learned this, when you do your part, God will do

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:15.359
<v Speaker 4>his part. He will kick in. But sometimes we're waiting

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:17.640
<v Speaker 4>with Joe when I feel better, or when I get

0:36:17.680 --> 0:36:19.839
<v Speaker 4>a break, or when my husband starts treating me better.

0:36:19.880 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 4>But you know what, you got to say, No, I'm

0:36:21.719 --> 0:36:24.120
<v Speaker 4>gonna make the first move right now. I'm going to

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, change the way I'm thinking. I'm gonna look

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.160
<v Speaker 4>at things from a new perspective. I'm gonna thank God

0:36:30.200 --> 0:36:32.600
<v Speaker 4>for what's right and not what's wrong. And really rich

0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:34.640
<v Speaker 4>is a lot like my father when he gave his

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 4>life to Christ. You know, I don't know what came

0:36:37.239 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 4>over him, and maybe just the decision he made, but

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 4>he said, you know what poverty has finished in my life.

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 4>Seventeen years old, in the Great Depression, no money, no education,

0:36:45.680 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 4>his parents telling him, don't leave the farm. But you

0:36:48.320 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 4>know what, he made that decision. I know God gave

0:36:51.560 --> 0:36:53.080
<v Speaker 4>him the grace to do it, but he had to

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:55.400
<v Speaker 4>step into it and Again, it's not like he had

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 4>a big Oh I got a scholarship now to go

0:36:57.200 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 4>to school or something. He hitchies and started preaching in

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 4>prison and on the street corners and things like that.

0:37:02.600 --> 0:37:05.880
<v Speaker 4>But again, when you make that decision, it's amazing what

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 4>God will do. And I like that. I think that's

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:10.800
<v Speaker 4>part of that. I talked about that son or a slave,

0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 4>and it reminded me because because so many times, you

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 4>know how the Israelites, God brought them out of slavery,

0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:20.520
<v Speaker 4>but as they went toward the Promised Land, they never

0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 4>got rid of a slave mentality. God had called them

0:37:23.600 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 4>a son. But it's like the enemy kept calling you

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:28.360
<v Speaker 4>a slave. And so it's like, you know, God is

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:30.480
<v Speaker 4>calling you a son, the enemy is calling you a slave.

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 4>Who you're going to say you are a son or

0:37:33.000 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 4>a slave? Well, we are sons, we are daughters of

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:37.560
<v Speaker 4>the Most High God. But as long as you have

0:37:37.640 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 4>a slave mentality, a defeated mentality, look what I've been through, Joel,

0:37:42.120 --> 0:37:44.960
<v Speaker 4>or look look at these giants on my promised land. Listen,

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:46.799
<v Speaker 4>God has brought you through in the past, He's going

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 4>to bring you through in the future. Don't have a

0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 4>slave mentality. Have a son mentality. Stephen Hayes, pastor of

0:37:58.000 --> 0:38:00.879
<v Speaker 4>Covenant Church, with his mom and dad said next to them,

0:38:01.200 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 4>great people. And Mike and Kathy Hayes have passed there

0:38:05.280 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 4>how many years forty years they transitioned to Steve and

0:38:09.320 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 4>he has not run it down yet, but he's doing great.

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:15.120
<v Speaker 4>But these guys have pastors. Mike and Kathy are just

0:38:15.160 --> 0:38:18.000
<v Speaker 4>great friends and great leaders and just been friends of

0:38:18.040 --> 0:38:20.399
<v Speaker 4>ours and Steve. I love. We were talking even last

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:23.600
<v Speaker 4>night about how the church you've transitioned the last couple

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:26.560
<v Speaker 4>of years. The church is strong, and I love to

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:29.560
<v Speaker 4>see healthy transitions. That's what happened at Lakewood, and I

0:38:29.600 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 4>believe that's what's going to continue to happen with our

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 4>church and other churches. But thanks for being here, y'all.

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 4>Great blessing to us.

0:38:35.640 --> 0:38:38.040
<v Speaker 14>Absolutely, And just as you wrapped up your last point,

0:38:38.040 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 14>Pastor Joel, while it's so clear from what Pasor Keith

0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:45.000
<v Speaker 14>said and others on breaking barriers and blazing new trail,

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:47.839
<v Speaker 14>what he's done now for his children, what you're doing

0:38:47.840 --> 0:38:50.000
<v Speaker 14>for yours and in your church. I told you last

0:38:50.040 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 14>night that just what you've done as a son, succeeding

0:38:52.680 --> 0:38:55.920
<v Speaker 14>your father and doing an amazing job. Taking it further

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:58.239
<v Speaker 14>has helped to blaze a trail for me as well

0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 14>as a son coming in and thank you for that.

0:39:02.040 --> 0:39:03.960
<v Speaker 14>But as much as all that's so important, in the

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:06.440
<v Speaker 14>next level thinking the chapter chapter six, it stood out

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 14>to me that you just alluded to not thinking like

0:39:08.400 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 14>a slave but thinking like a son. It comes back,

0:39:10.760 --> 0:39:12.840
<v Speaker 14>I think so much to being able to really connect

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:15.880
<v Speaker 14>to what's possible is knowing who you are. You know,

0:39:15.920 --> 0:39:17.920
<v Speaker 14>you can have good strategies about loving yourself, that's all

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:19.480
<v Speaker 14>so important, But if you don't know that you are

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:21.920
<v Speaker 14>a son and a daughter of God, and your approval

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 14>is not based on your performance, it's based on His greatness,

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 14>his goodness, and until you can really connect to that,

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 14>I don't know that any of the other stuff's even possible.

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 14>I don't know that I can really fully even love

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:34.239
<v Speaker 14>myself if I don't know that He loves me. And

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:36.440
<v Speaker 14>so that old chapter really got me, and specifically the

0:39:36.480 --> 0:39:38.600
<v Speaker 14>story you told about the maintenance guy coming to your

0:39:38.600 --> 0:39:41.120
<v Speaker 14>house to fix an air conditioner, and he said, you know,

0:39:41.400 --> 0:39:43.319
<v Speaker 14>maintenance guy shows up, He's not going to go to

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 14>the fridge, He's not going to go sit down and

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 14>watch TV. Because it's not his home, right, He's going

0:39:47.680 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 14>to go and do the job I hired him to do.

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 14>But when Jonathan comes home from college, he's not going

0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:53.880
<v Speaker 14>to ask permission to go to the fridge. He's not

0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 14>going to ask permission to watch TV. Because he's a son.

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:58.640
<v Speaker 14>He knows who he is. And I was talking to

0:39:58.680 --> 0:40:01.320
<v Speaker 14>Pastor Phil before this, and he reminded me of a

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:03.960
<v Speaker 14>story I shared with him back in high school. My

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:06.160
<v Speaker 14>parents told me, Steven, your job is to be a

0:40:06.200 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 14>good student and be an athlete and be faithful at church.

0:40:08.719 --> 0:40:11.359
<v Speaker 14>And and so they helped me get my first car.

0:40:11.400 --> 0:40:12.960
<v Speaker 14>But I worked to raise some money and they made

0:40:12.960 --> 0:40:15.360
<v Speaker 14>me put my you know, put my money forward for

0:40:15.440 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 14>it and raise money. Well, then when I got the car,

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:19.759
<v Speaker 14>I was the only one of my friends that had

0:40:19.760 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 14>a car. So I became the car pool guy, right.

0:40:22.080 --> 0:40:24.480
<v Speaker 14>I took everybody to practice. And so then my dad

0:40:24.520 --> 0:40:26.400
<v Speaker 14>got me. He made the mistake of giving me a

0:40:26.520 --> 0:40:29.399
<v Speaker 14>Chevron gas card, and then all of a sudden, any

0:40:29.400 --> 0:40:31.840
<v Speaker 14>of my friends that needed some snacks were buying Gatorade

0:40:31.880 --> 0:40:35.120
<v Speaker 14>after practice. I the first month, the first month, it

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:37.640
<v Speaker 14>was like one thousand dollars I spent at Chevron I

0:40:37.680 --> 0:40:39.560
<v Speaker 14>got creative. You could you could feed a few guys

0:40:39.600 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 14>at Chevron, you know. And they sat me down, said Steve,

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:44.959
<v Speaker 14>when we understand what you're doing. But listen, you can't

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:48.360
<v Speaker 14>just feed everybody at the gas station. But I recognized

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:51.200
<v Speaker 14>I ordered it, but my dad's covering the bill, Like

0:40:51.280 --> 0:40:53.680
<v Speaker 14>I know who my dad is, and he's paying the bill.

0:40:54.000 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 14>And it taught me a lesson later in life that

0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:58.400
<v Speaker 14>not everyone that was raised with great parents, but I was,

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:00.840
<v Speaker 14>and I had a father and mother that were providing

0:41:00.880 --> 0:41:03.320
<v Speaker 14>for me. And because of that relationship, I was able

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:06.359
<v Speaker 14>to walk into boldness and a faith that otherwise I've

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 14>seen people not be able to do. And your analogy

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:13.040
<v Speaker 14>with the Israelites having been rescued through miracles of the

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<v Speaker 14>plagues and then even the cloud by day, fire by night,

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<v Speaker 14>incredible red sea parted, but then they forgot who they were.

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<v Speaker 14>And I've heard it said before that Jesus or that

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<v Speaker 14>God took them out of Egypt, but it took forty

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<v Speaker 14>years to take the Egypt out of them. I feel

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<v Speaker 14>like a lot of people I experienced at a church

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<v Speaker 14>where or people will leave a place because they think

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<v Speaker 14>the place was the problem, but they wherever you go there,

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<v Speaker 14>you are. I think that mentality is a big limiting factor.

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<v Speaker 14>How do you help encourage people even when they come

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<v Speaker 14>and they're excited to be here, but you recognize they

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<v Speaker 14>still got some Egypt on them. How do you get

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<v Speaker 14>them really to get over the fact that you know,

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<v Speaker 14>you left and that may have been good, but you

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<v Speaker 14>still brought some of that with you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I think what you're saying is true. It's just

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<v Speaker 4>a day at a time. Keep teaching them, keep encouraging them.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know you said it so beautifully. But knowing

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<v Speaker 4>that we are I like going back to that bay,

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<v Speaker 4>knowing that we are children of the Most High God,

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<v Speaker 4>that we are approved, that we are accepted, knowing that

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<v Speaker 4>we are loved, knowing that we are masterpieces. That's that

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<v Speaker 4>foundation for the next level thinking. So Stephen, thanks for

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<v Speaker 4>sharing that. Thanks for all of our great pastors here

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<v Speaker 4>and Victoria, Nick, and thank you guys for watching. Nick.

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<v Speaker 4>Can I see a copy of my book one more time?

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<v Speaker 4>I know it's out in a hard copy now, but

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<v Speaker 4>next level thinking if you'll want to pick up a copy,

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<v Speaker 4>But we loved you. Thanks being a part of our webcast,

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<v Speaker 4>going to take you to new levels. As you think better,

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<v Speaker 4>you're going to live better. You're going to see God's

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<v Speaker 4>goodness in new ways. You're not watching this by accident.

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<v Speaker 4>God had you hearing this. So why don't you take

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<v Speaker 4>be a new beginning, and just kind of reevaluate and say, God,

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