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Speaker 4: Hey welcome everybody. We are so glad to have your
Speaker 4: tuning in. We loved you, We're praying for you. We
Speaker 4: believe that twenty eighteen is going to be an amazing
Speaker 4: year in your life, a year where God exceeds your expectations.
Speaker 4: Thanks for tuning in. I'm here with my beautiful wife Victoria,
Speaker 4: my friend Nick Nielson. Nick. Can I see that I've
Speaker 4: got a new book out. It's called Next Level Thinking.
Speaker 4: It's ten powerful thoughts for a successful and Abundant Life,
Speaker 4: and it comes out this Tuesday, but hope you'll pick
Speaker 4: up a copy and we'll talk a little bit about it. Today.
Speaker 4: I'm sitting here with a couple of hundred of the finest,
Speaker 4: most powerful anointed pastors and all of America right here.
Speaker 4: So guys and ladies, thank you so much for being
Speaker 4: with us. We're going to have a great time. But Nick,
Speaker 4: thanks for being a part in Victoria. Say hello, Dinbo, No.
Speaker 5: I'm excited about this webcast. We're going to have a
Speaker 5: great time. And who doesn't want to go to the
Speaker 5: next level in they're thinking, I know, I do.
Speaker 4: So we have.
Speaker 5: Amazing people here and Pastor Nick, you're always so great
Speaker 5: at like bringing out those great points and so you know,
Speaker 5: we're glad that you tuned in because you're really special
Speaker 5: to this webcast. We know that we pray for you,
Speaker 5: know that we are for you. We know that God
Speaker 5: has amazing things in your future. So thank you for
Speaker 5: tuning in, and we're all going to go to the
Speaker 5: next level.
Speaker 6: You know, we just want to have a conversation about
Speaker 6: this book, Pastor and I just I think it's a
Speaker 6: very relevant book, applicable book. But what what do you
Speaker 6: hope people grab from this book. I mean, what's what's
Speaker 6: the heart, what's the what's the biggest thing that you'd
Speaker 6: hope people receive from it?
Speaker 4: Well, Nick, that I believe our life follows our thoughts,
Speaker 4: and so so many times we're thinking defeating thoughts and
Speaker 4: negative thoughts or limiting thoughts, and it's not God limiting us.
Speaker 4: We're limiting ourselves worth our thinking. And so I'm encouraging
Speaker 4: people in the book to you know, let's take the
Speaker 4: limits off of God. My father used to say, you
Speaker 4: will never rise any higher than the way you see yourself,
Speaker 4: than what's going on in your mind. And most of
Speaker 4: us know. But there's a recording that's constantly playing. You know.
Speaker 4: The experts tell us that we talk to ourselves more
Speaker 4: than we talk to anybody else because there's something playing it.
Speaker 4: Sometimes we don't realize it, but the recording is negative.
Speaker 4: It's just how we've grown up. As you know what.
Speaker 4: I'll never be successful or Joey, You've got a big church,
Speaker 4: but I'll never do anything great. I'll never get well,
Speaker 4: I'll never break the addiction, or you know, I'm not
Speaker 4: as talented as my brother, I'm not as good looking,
Speaker 4: as my friend. As long as those thoughts are negative,
Speaker 4: we are limiting ourselves. And so I'm just encouraging us
Speaker 4: to turn on the right recording. And that's what God
Speaker 4: says about us. That we are blessed, that we are strong,
Speaker 4: that we are fearfully and wonderfully made, that we're not average,
Speaker 4: we are masterpieces. And even I think about sitting in
Speaker 4: this building, you know what one thing we had to do.
Speaker 4: When they told me the Compact Center was coming available.
Speaker 4: My first thought, I told the guy, said, there's no
Speaker 4: way we could afford that. That'll be two hundred million dollars.
Speaker 4: My first thought was, you know, I wasn't even going
Speaker 4: to pursue it. He said, no, Joel, the city only
Speaker 4: owes seven and a half million dollars, and that cost
Speaker 4: a little bit more than that for us to get it.
Speaker 4: But you know, when I heard that, I thought, you
Speaker 4: know what, I can believe for seven and a half
Speaker 4: million dollars. But you know what I had to take
Speaker 4: the limits off of God. You know, I had grown
Speaker 4: up here watching the Rockets play basketball, had season tickets
Speaker 4: right back over there. In my wildest dreams. If you
Speaker 4: would have told me, you know, twenty thirty years ago
Speaker 4: that one day we would own the Compact Center. I said,
Speaker 4: there's no way. That's not even fathomable. This is where
Speaker 4: the Rockets won two world championships. It's the premier auditorium
Speaker 4: in our facility. But you know what, only thing that
Speaker 4: limits us is our own thinking. I just said, God,
Speaker 4: you know what, I don't see how it can work out,
Speaker 4: but I know you're on the throne. I know you
Speaker 4: controlled the universe. So I took the limits off of God.
Speaker 4: And it doesn't happen automatically. But you know, when you
Speaker 4: think like God thinks, when you take the limits off
Speaker 4: of him, that's what allows God to do great things.
Speaker 4: So that's what the book is about. Wherever you are,
Speaker 4: God wants us to rise higher. He doesn't want us
Speaker 4: to be at this same level next year as we
Speaker 4: are right now. He wants us to go further. So
Speaker 4: I think the first thing we have to do is
Speaker 4: we have to take the limits off in our thinking
Speaker 4: and say, God, I'm goost start thinking at the next level.
Speaker 4: I almost start believing for bigger things. Yeah, God, you
Speaker 4: being good to me. I'm not saying, you know, you
Speaker 4: don't have to have a dediction or have some big
Speaker 4: kind of problem. But sometimes you know how I do.
Speaker 4: Sometimes life can just get routine and okay, I kind
Speaker 4: of reach that level and that's kind of as good
Speaker 4: as it gets and all that. But you know what,
Speaker 4: you take the limits off of God and you watch
Speaker 4: where God will take you.
Speaker 6: There's ten thoughts, so each of them are phenomenal on
Speaker 6: their own. Right there, there's chapter two years when I
Speaker 6: I'm gonna just read a sentence.
Speaker 4: That you wrote.
Speaker 6: It says you are fully loaded and completely equipped for
Speaker 6: the race that God's designed for. You talk a little
Speaker 6: bit about what that means to you, being fully loaded.
Speaker 6: So many people that we meet feel inadequate to do
Speaker 6: the certain things that God's designed to do, step up
Speaker 6: in the workplace, wherever they may be.
Speaker 4: It's exactly how I felt, nick when my father went
Speaker 4: to be with the Lord, and I knew down in
Speaker 4: here I was supposed to step up and pasture the church.
Speaker 4: I don't know how to explain it. I just knew
Speaker 4: that I was supposed to. But every thought told me, Joe,
Speaker 4: you can't pass the church. You never been to seminary,
Speaker 4: you don't have the training. You've ministered one time, and
Speaker 4: you're going to take over your father's church of six
Speaker 4: thousand people. I mean, everything in my mind said there
Speaker 4: was no way. And part of it was just, you know,
Speaker 4: I didn't feel equipped. I didn't feel empowered. I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm naturally more quiet and reserved. I like being behind
Speaker 4: the scenes. I was the one running the camera and
Speaker 4: doing all the production. And you know, I used to
Speaker 4: watch my dad and he was my hero. You know,
Speaker 4: he could get up there speak and so powerful, and
Speaker 4: you know he came out of that generation before me,
Speaker 4: and they were fiery and man, he'd give you goosebumps.
Speaker 4: And I thought, God, I don't have any of that.
Speaker 4: I don't have the personality, I don't have that fire
Speaker 4: in me. But I realized that God would not have
Speaker 4: given you the dream if he had not already equipped
Speaker 4: you and empowered you. And so many of us have
Speaker 4: things on the inside, gifts and talents that we've not
Speaker 4: yet tapped into their line dormant and even for me,
Speaker 4: I don't think I was supposed to be ministering those
Speaker 4: seventeen years. I was behind the scenes. It was all
Speaker 4: a part of God's timing. But I can say this,
Speaker 4: there are gifts in you that are dormant and at
Speaker 4: the right time, God's going to open some things up
Speaker 4: for you. He's going to open some new doors. But
Speaker 4: I think it's important rather than feeling you know, I
Speaker 4: kind of feel inadequate, not qualified, you know that insecure.
Speaker 4: You've got to change that recording again and know that, hey,
Speaker 4: I am equipped, I am empowered, I am fully loaded
Speaker 4: with everything I need to fulfill my desk.
Speaker 5: That's kind of the preparation part, isn't it. That whole
Speaker 5: speaking to yourself when that potential is calling out, you're scared,
Speaker 5: But it's when you start that recording going in the
Speaker 5: right direction. It's part of the preparation because you said
Speaker 5: yourself that. It took a little while and you had
Speaker 5: to look at yourself in the mirror and you had
Speaker 5: to just start talking to yourself and say, I.
Speaker 4: Can do this today.
Speaker 7: I have you know.
Speaker 5: So I think sometimes people think, well, what's happening when
Speaker 5: I'm doing this, or you're preparing yourself. When God opens
Speaker 5: that door, then you're going to be ready to walk
Speaker 5: through it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've learned you can talk yourself into your dreams
Speaker 4: or you can talk yourself out of your dreams. I
Speaker 4: would have to go on Saturday nights when I first started,
Speaker 4: and look myself in the mirror and said, Joe, you
Speaker 4: can do this. You are strong in the Lord. You
Speaker 4: are well able, you were equipped. You've been raised up
Speaker 4: for such a time as this. If I hadn't done that,
Speaker 4: if I would have let those thoughts play that you
Speaker 4: know what, you don't have what it takes. You're not
Speaker 4: as talented, you're not, I wouldn't be standing here today.
Speaker 4: So I just encourage those of you and those of
Speaker 4: you watching, take the limits. Take the limit off of God,
Speaker 4: but take the limits off of yourself. Quit telling yourself
Speaker 4: that you're lacking or you don't have enough talent or
Speaker 4: enough experience. You may not, but God does. What He's
Speaker 4: put in you is what you need to fulfill your destiny.
Speaker 4: You are not lacking. You didn't get left out. God
Speaker 4: didn't make a mistake when he made you. You were
Speaker 4: not short changed. You are fearfully and wonderfully made. It's amazing.
Speaker 6: You talk a lot about knowing your value and knowing
Speaker 6: that your value doesn't come from you do or your paycheck,
Speaker 6: but just knowing that your value comes from your creator.
Speaker 4: Talk about that.
Speaker 6: It's here in chapter five, but just talk a little
Speaker 6: bit about recognizing your value and just where your value
Speaker 6: comes from, where it's based from.
Speaker 4: You know, Nick, just what you said that sometimes we're
Speaker 4: trying to get our value out of what we do,
Speaker 4: or how big my church is, or how big the
Speaker 4: you know, out of people as well. And you know,
Speaker 4: I think that's a hard way to live because you know,
Speaker 4: when you try to get your approval from people, the
Speaker 4: problem is people can change, you know. You think about Jesus.
Speaker 4: One day, wasn't Jesus coming into the town and they
Speaker 4: were all saying Hosanna. It seems like it was three
Speaker 4: days later. A week later they were saying crucifying. And
Speaker 4: if you try to get your value out of other things,
Speaker 4: even people. As much as I love Victoria, people can't
Speaker 4: fill you with everything you need. So you've got to
Speaker 4: go back to know that, you know what my approval
Speaker 4: comes from the most high God. People may not approve me,
Speaker 4: or you know, those thoughts try to push me down,
Speaker 4: but you know what, it's not. I love that even
Speaker 4: about Jesus here you know this, all these pastors, but
Speaker 4: Jesus when he was baptized in water, when John the
Speaker 4: Baptist baptized him, Jesus came up out of the water,
Speaker 4: and the voice from heaven said, this is my beloved son,
Speaker 4: whom I am well pleased. But when you think about it,
Speaker 4: at that point, Jesus hadn't done one miracle, he hadn't
Speaker 4: turned the water into wine, he hadn't opened a blind eye.
Speaker 4: His father was pleased of him because of who he was.
Speaker 4: And sometimes we think, well, God's not pleased to me, Joe,
Speaker 4: I've got an addiction, or I've wasted years of my life,
Speaker 4: or I've made these mistakes. Listen, that's what you did.
Speaker 4: That's not who you are. God is smiling down on
Speaker 4: you right now. He's made you in his image. And
Speaker 4: if you'd get those thoughts out of your mind about
Speaker 4: you know what, God's not pleased with me, And you
Speaker 4: know what I'm not. I don't I don't measure up
Speaker 4: to other people. Well, you don't have to measure up
Speaker 4: to other people. You are uniquely made in your in
Speaker 4: who God made you to be. So turn tune all
Speaker 4: that out and know again that you are fearfully and
Speaker 4: wonderfully made, that the creator of the universe breeds his
Speaker 4: life into you. He knew you before you were formed
Speaker 4: in your mother's womb. He didn't have you here in
Speaker 4: this by accident. And if you'd turn off that that
Speaker 4: old thinking and put some new thoughts that you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm approved, I'm valuable, I'm accepted. I am a masterpiece
Speaker 4: that's going to cause you to rise higher and become
Speaker 4: who God's created you to be. So Chester Charles used
Speaker 4: to leave us off. My friend, Pastor Charles Nieman. Pastor's
Speaker 4: a great church, abundant living in el Pastor, I've been
Speaker 4: there with you and we're very honored to have you here.
Speaker 4: Pastor Charles, here, go ahead, Pastor.
Speaker 8: Yeah, my uh. As you were talking today, and as
Speaker 8: I was reading the book, and in particular I kind
Speaker 8: of got caught up in the fifth chapter as you
Speaker 8: were just mentioning there about value, and I couldn't help
Speaker 8: but think about speaking of your dad. An incredible series
Speaker 8: of teachings he did that really impacted my life years ago,
Speaker 8: called thinking the thoughts of God and bringing that idea
Speaker 8: I think is coming full circle in your book, this
Speaker 8: idea that you know we all.
Speaker 4: Have these thoughts.
Speaker 8: But how do people hearing what you just said, how
Speaker 8: would you say that people need to move from this
Speaker 8: life of negativity or a moment of negativity that is
Speaker 8: now taking control of their thinking. And you know, as
Speaker 8: you know Solomon said, as a man thinking in his heart,
Speaker 8: so is he. But where do they go? How do
Speaker 8: they get the thoughts of God into their mind?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Pastor, you know, I believe they go back to
Speaker 4: this scripture. They find out what God says about them.
Speaker 4: And I think you do it one, one thought at
Speaker 4: a time. You know, some people were, as I said,
Speaker 4: they're just naturally negative. That's just the way they grew
Speaker 4: up with. But I don't think we always realize that
Speaker 4: we don't have to think whatever comes to our mind.
Speaker 4: You know, you can get up in the morning thing,
Speaker 4: oh there's gonna be a lousy day and I don't
Speaker 4: feel like going to work. You don't have to think that.
Speaker 4: That next level thinking says, No, I'm wanna tune that out. Lord,
Speaker 4: I want to think you this is a great day.
Speaker 4: I'm grateful to be alive today. It's just taking control
Speaker 4: of our mind. Even the scripture. You know, y'all teach
Speaker 4: it better than me, But just about guarding your mind
Speaker 4: and what's playing all day and again going back to
Speaker 4: what God says about you and That's that's why every
Speaker 4: service I tell the congregation, here I go, I want
Speaker 4: to go over them all. But I am blessed, I
Speaker 4: am prosperous, I am redeemed, forgiven, talented, creative discipline, focus, accepted, approved.
Speaker 4: That's what needs to be playing in our mind all
Speaker 4: through the day. And just because the thought comes doesn't
Speaker 4: mean you have to think it.
Speaker 5: You know too, it's a habit. When you start to
Speaker 5: start thinking the right thoughts, you start recognizing when the
Speaker 5: wrong thoughts come. And it's not a matter of you know,
Speaker 5: you just stop, you say, oh, that's not the thoughts
Speaker 5: I want to think. So I think the more you
Speaker 5: do it, it's like you said, just a thought at
Speaker 5: a time, you can catch when the wrong thoughts come.
Speaker 5: And that's so important.
Speaker 4: I like to think of it. I've heard the example
Speaker 4: of it's like a river bed. Maybe that river bed
Speaker 4: has been flowing one way for forty years, just negative thoughts. Well,
Speaker 4: one thought at a time. Every day you think the
Speaker 4: right thoughts, you think positive faith, field, think on things
Speaker 4: that are truth. Well, you're digging that riverbed the other way.
Speaker 4: May not turn around overnight, but I believe over time,
Speaker 4: and I've talked to people that have been negative their
Speaker 4: whole life and just doubters and just down on themselves. Insecure,
Speaker 4: you start turning it one day at a time, one
Speaker 4: thought at a time, that riverbed is going to start
Speaker 4: running the other way. And two I think, you know,
Speaker 4: God's given us all different personalities, and I've naturally been
Speaker 4: optimistic and positive. You know, other people have a friend
Speaker 4: tell me, he says, I can take a positive message
Speaker 4: and preach it a negative way. I'm just negative, you know,
Speaker 4: But I think you can naturally. You can naturally change.
Speaker 4: And I think it's you know, so much of life
Speaker 4: is is perspective. You know, it's what we're looking at today.
Speaker 4: We're looking at what's wrong or you know what I'm
Speaker 4: looking at what's right, looking at what I don't have,
Speaker 4: or looking at what I do have, And it's just
Speaker 4: back to our thinking, and you know, thinking those right thoughts.
Speaker 5: You don't even have to be a negative person per se.
Speaker 5: I'm not a negative person. I would consider myself a
Speaker 5: positive person. But I know when I think positive thoughts
Speaker 5: on purpose, it changes the atmosphere of my mind. It
Speaker 5: takes and elevates me to that next level. So it's
Speaker 5: not that you can be saying, well, I'm not necessarily negative,
Speaker 5: but are you thinking positive thoughts on purpose? And I
Speaker 5: think that's that's a great key as well.
Speaker 6: I just like how you alluded to it's a journey.
Speaker 6: It's a process that we don't have to get this
Speaker 6: thing right away, that it's one thing at a time.
Speaker 6: Maybe maybe you think better right now than you did
Speaker 6: a year ago, and it's just a journey for people.
Speaker 6: Some people expect to be so perfect in their thought
Speaker 6: life right away, right around the corner, and it's like,
Speaker 6: this is a process, this is a journey beginning habitually
Speaker 6: do it.
Speaker 4: So that's awesome, Pastor Torey Roberts One Church LA One
Speaker 4: Church is what Potter's House Denver, and awesome to have you, tore.
Speaker 9: Thank you so much, and thank you for writing this book.
Speaker 4: I like it.
Speaker 9: It's next level thinking. And we all know that our
Speaker 9: insides determine our outsides, and so a lot of times
Speaker 9: the barrier, as you so eloquently wrote about in this book,
Speaker 9: the barrier is not that the opportunity isn't there, it's
Speaker 9: just their restrictions in our thinking. One chapter that really
Speaker 9: stood out to me was a chapter where you dealt
Speaker 9: with shame because a lot of times the opportunity is
Speaker 9: there and we want to think positively, but there's almost
Speaker 9: like a cap on what we believe that God can
Speaker 9: do for us because we've got shame about something that happened.
Speaker 4: How do you if there's.
Speaker 9: Someone out there that's dealing with shame, how do you
Speaker 9: attack shame? Get that cap off of your life so
Speaker 9: that you can move forward.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Torey again, it goes back to that
Speaker 4: thought of you know, you are not what you did,
Speaker 4: You are not what happened to you. You you were
Speaker 4: a child of the Most High God. And I think
Speaker 4: even you know, from when we were little children, sometimes
Speaker 4: you know, shame on you. You shouldn't have done a shame
Speaker 4: on you, But you just got to rise up and say,
Speaker 4: you know what, shame off me. I am a child
Speaker 4: of the Most High God. I'm going to I'm not
Speaker 4: going to live beating myself up. And you know it's
Speaker 4: funny how people beat themselves up and it wasn't their fault,
Speaker 4: you know, it's just a natural tendency. And so these
Speaker 4: are decisions we have to make. It starts in our
Speaker 4: mind and life is too short to live it. You know,
Speaker 4: full of shame and guilt, and you know whether you
Speaker 4: messed up or whether somebody didn't treat you right or
Speaker 4: whatever it is. It's a new day. God's mercies are
Speaker 4: fresh and new every morning. Why don't you, you know,
Speaker 4: shame off you and start saying, you know what I'm
Speaker 4: going to be who God's called me to be. There's
Speaker 4: no mistake you made that has to keep you from
Speaker 4: your destiny. And I really believe there's nothing somebody else
Speaker 4: has done to you that has to keep you from
Speaker 4: your purpose as well. It may not have been fair,
Speaker 4: and I'm not saying that life is always fair, but
Speaker 4: God has that way of giving you beauty for ashes
Speaker 4: take and what was meant for harm in using it
Speaker 4: to your advantage. Pastor Keith and Sheila Kraft pastor Elevate
Speaker 4: Life Church in Frisco, Texas, and been friends of ours
Speaker 4: for many years. Thanks for being here and go ahead.
Speaker 10: Keith, thank you. It's an honor. I love the title
Speaker 10: of your book because we believe in you elevate your thinking,
Speaker 10: you elevate your life. So it's masterful.
Speaker 8: Really.
Speaker 10: In the first chapter, you tell a story about your
Speaker 10: dad and that he really did you a great service
Speaker 10: by taking you to the place where he was born
Speaker 10: and to the neighborhood where he was born, to know
Speaker 10: the house that he lived in wasn't there. There was
Speaker 10: a neighbor who had lived there his whole life. Was
Speaker 10: actually sitting on the front porch when you guys drove
Speaker 10: up and your dad addressed him. And one of the
Speaker 10: things you say in your book is you say, when
Speaker 10: you break a barrier, you make it easier for those
Speaker 10: who come after you. And so talk about that because
Speaker 10: just about thinking a certain way, but it's understanding the
Speaker 10: way that you think, your next level thinking is going
Speaker 10: to determine how those that come after you think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a powerful point, Keith, You're exactly right. And
Speaker 4: I want you to tell that story about your dad too,
Speaker 4: real quick in a second, because that's real powerful. I've
Speaker 4: used that. But yeah, So my father was raised in poverty.
Speaker 4: He grew up during the Great Depression and his family
Speaker 4: had lost everything and just there were great people, but
Speaker 4: they were poor. He barely had enough food and you know,
Speaker 4: clothing to go to school. But at seventeen years of age,
Speaker 4: my father gave his life to Christ and the first
Speaker 4: one in his family and he you know, he felt
Speaker 4: like God called him to preach. He hitchhiked and he
Speaker 4: started preaching. And his family thought, you know, he's crazy.
Speaker 4: Why would you leave the farm. This is all you
Speaker 4: know how to do. But my dad went on, obviously
Speaker 4: to found Lakewood and pastor great churches all over the world.
Speaker 4: But one thing that what he told me, He said, Joel,
Speaker 4: I when I gave my life to Christ at seventeen,
Speaker 4: I made a decision that my children would never be
Speaker 4: raised in the poverty that I was raised in. So
Speaker 4: my father he rose up by the decisions that he
Speaker 4: made and by the grace of God, and he broke
Speaker 4: the curse of poverty in our family. And you know, today,
Speaker 4: you know what, we're blessed because my father took a stand.
Speaker 4: So I am. I mean, I'll be the first to
Speaker 4: tell you I'm reaping seeds because my mother and my
Speaker 4: father have planted and sewed, and you know, broke that
Speaker 4: curse of poverty. But later in life, my dad, you know,
Speaker 4: he loved to reminisce his Joel Victoria drive back to Paris, Texas,
Speaker 4: where he grew up. And so we went back and
Speaker 4: we found the old farm where he lived on the
Speaker 4: house was gone, but we found the well was still there.
Speaker 4: And he used to tell me he had to walk
Speaker 4: two miles to school. And we looked in this school
Speaker 4: was like one hundred yards away, not so big in
Speaker 4: your mind, but he could not convince the guy said, no,
Speaker 4: that was the school. No, it was two miles away.
Speaker 4: But anyway, so we got there, you know, then we
Speaker 4: drove around. He went to find some friends and this
Speaker 4: guy sitting on his front porch and house had a whole,
Speaker 4: you know, roof had leaks in and it was one
Speaker 4: of even hardly a house. It was a shit. And
Speaker 4: the guy was out there without his shirt on, just
Speaker 4: kind of killing time. And I said, you wasn't a
Speaker 4: good person. But my dad walked up and said, you
Speaker 4: know whatever his name was, and he said, hey, this
Speaker 4: is John Ostein. Hadn't spoken to him in like sixty years.
Speaker 4: And you know, my dad got to talk and what
Speaker 4: did you do? Sh worked at the boat shop a
Speaker 4: little way, and I did this for a little while,
Speaker 4: you know, and got laid off back then. My back's
Speaker 4: been hurting, but I just thought, man, what a difference
Speaker 4: when somebody raises up and sets a new standard. It
Speaker 4: didn't you know what, nothing against the gentleman there. You know,
Speaker 4: he didn't do it, But I thought, look at the
Speaker 4: two My dad had touched people all over the world,
Speaker 4: had a you know, a family that was doing great things.
Speaker 4: So it's so important that man. You can become a
Speaker 4: burier breaker, you can rise out of any dysfunction or
Speaker 4: just out of the I believe God wants every generation
Speaker 4: to increase. That's why when my dad went to be
Speaker 4: with Lord, people used to ask me, do you think
Speaker 4: you can continue on what your father started? And here
Speaker 4: I didn't have any experience, but something down in here.
Speaker 4: I would tell them, not arrogantly at all, I'd say,
Speaker 4: you know what, I think I can not only carry
Speaker 4: it on, but I think we can go further because
Speaker 4: it's the way God designed it. He didn't want us
Speaker 4: to go backwards. He wants every generation to increase. We
Speaker 4: want our children to go further as well. So why
Speaker 4: don't you go break some barriers for your family. You know,
Speaker 4: nobody broke the four minute mile for you know, forever
Speaker 4: in history. Then the guy broke it, and then after that,
Speaker 4: within like six months, forty three other people broke it.
Speaker 4: And it's like the burial was in our mind that
Speaker 4: we can't break a four minute mile. I can't be successful,
Speaker 4: I can't break this addiction. You know what, you have
Speaker 4: the power of the most time God on the inside
Speaker 4: of you. You'd be amazed at what you can do. Keith,
Speaker 4: tell us that story. It's really powerful.
Speaker 10: My dad. I was about eleven years old, and my
Speaker 10: dad said, hey, come get in the car, and I
Speaker 10: had no idea where we were going. Three hours later,
Speaker 10: we were in front of a house that was very similar
Speaker 10: to what you described shack. No wind is on the
Speaker 10: on the on the you know, no glass on the
Speaker 10: wind is the door is broken down going in the house,
Speaker 10: and we walk in the house and this floor was dirt.
Speaker 10: There was a one piece of furniture, and there was
Speaker 10: an old man sitting over in the corner. And we
Speaker 10: walked over there and I was holding my dad's hand,
Speaker 10: and he said, hey, Dad, I never I'd never met
Speaker 10: my grandfather. And my dad had a bag of money
Speaker 10: for him and some candy and my grandfather, which I
Speaker 10: didn't even know that's who it was, but didn't really
Speaker 10: if you acknowledged me, didn't say hello, but my dad
Speaker 10: just talked to him for a minute. I kind of
Speaker 10: walked away, and we were there for about ten minutes
Speaker 10: and we walked out of the house and I remember
Speaker 10: looking up at my dad and I said, Dad, I
Speaker 10: never want to go back there, and he said, that's
Speaker 10: why I brought you here, because this is where we're from.
Speaker 10: But this is not who we are. And it's so
Speaker 10: impacted my life that I said, you know what, I
Speaker 10: can be somebody. I can be somebody, And not that
Speaker 10: that my grandfather that I never saw again, never met again,
Speaker 10: never talked to him, Not that he wasn't a good man,
Speaker 10: that's not the The point is is that where wherever
Speaker 10: you come from, that doesn't have to be who you are.
Speaker 4: You can break a barrier.
Speaker 11: Yes, So right, wow, Tester Chad You up next, Sir
Speaker 11: Pester chad Row from Destiny World, Outreaching Colleen, Texas ministers
Speaker 11: to a lot of the soldiers and people that have
Speaker 11: away at the military.
Speaker 12: Largest armored base in the free world there in Colleen.
Speaker 12: So almost all the soldiers of military are come from there.
Speaker 12: And so we've taken an honor, you know, pastor Joe
Speaker 12: in your book next level thinking, it's just so amazing.
Speaker 12: And I noticed in the chapter two about being fully loaded,
Speaker 12: and how what I took out of that is about
Speaker 12: running your race and staying in your lane and not
Speaker 12: trying to run other people's races, because it's easy, I
Speaker 12: know in my life, to get caught up and seeing
Speaker 12: what everybody else is doing, how great everybody else is,
Speaker 12: and you might try to get in that race and
Speaker 12: run their race and their lane instead of being fully
Speaker 12: loaded and annoying it. As you've said, for the race
Speaker 12: that God has put in you. I grew up to
Speaker 12: honor vessels men of God. But one thing I noticed
Speaker 12: in reading your book, it's not so much the vessel
Speaker 12: but the anointing on the vessel. And that's what I
Speaker 12: loved about that is how how does somebody recognize that
Speaker 12: and stay focused on their race and in their lane
Speaker 12: when there's so much other things going on around you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's such an important point, Chad, it really is.
Speaker 4: Let me get to that question a minute, but it
Speaker 4: reminds me that I think I used the analogy in
Speaker 4: the Book of you know when King Saul killed thousands
Speaker 4: and then they started, well, yeah, the people started singing
Speaker 4: after this great victory. King Saul has killed thousands, and
Speaker 4: David had killed tens of thousands. I can only imagine
Speaker 4: when King King Saul has killed thousands, they're singing about me. Man,
Speaker 4: that's great. Everything was fine, I can imagine until he
Speaker 4: heard what they say David's killed tens of thousands. His
Speaker 4: whole attitude changed. He wasn't content with being one thousand
Speaker 4: person versus ten thousand, you know, defeated person. So you know,
Speaker 4: sometimes you have to accept, Hey, God, this is who
Speaker 4: you made me to be. I may not have killed
Speaker 4: ten thousand, but I've killed a thousand. I'm gonna be
Speaker 4: happy with with what you've given me to do with
Speaker 4: the gifts you've given me. And I really believe Saul
Speaker 4: missed his destiny because he was jealous of somebody else
Speaker 4: if he could have just celebrated them. And I think
Speaker 4: it is. And when you're talking about being fully loaded
Speaker 4: and totally equipped, hey, you may not be I may
Speaker 4: not be Tdjake, so I may not be somebody else,
Speaker 4: But you know what, You've got to be the best
Speaker 4: that you can be and celebrate somebody else. That's what
Speaker 4: I love about it. I've got a great team around me.
Speaker 4: I've got brothers and sisters and brothers in laws. You
Speaker 4: know what I'm the younger brother, the younger than some
Speaker 4: of them, but they all celebrate me. But when you
Speaker 4: recognize who you are and you're content and who God
Speaker 4: made you to be, I think it's so important. You know, Chad,
Speaker 4: it's the distractions. It's looking at that and you know
Speaker 4: somebody else, Well, God, why didn't you give me that?
Speaker 4: Or God, why am my church bigger? Well? God, why
Speaker 4: can't I? You know what, you got to tune all
Speaker 4: that up out and be content and be happy with
Speaker 4: who God made you to be. The fact is somebody
Speaker 4: would love to have what you have. Somebody would gladly
Speaker 4: trade places with you. And it's easy to be happy
Speaker 4: until you start comparing and competing with other people. I
Speaker 4: remember one time I was running through my neighborhood and
Speaker 4: I have this path I run. It's two mile path,
Speaker 4: and when there's this long boulevard, probably a mile, and
Speaker 4: I saw a guy about all two blocks in front
Speaker 4: of me, you know, a few hundred yards, and I
Speaker 4: just I just you know, I'm just feeling competitive. I
Speaker 4: want to raise somebody. I thought I'm gonna race him.
Speaker 4: And so he's running up there, and man, he's going
Speaker 4: pretty good, but I'm gaining on him and gaining on him,
Speaker 4: panting I'm just trying to beat him, and I finally
Speaker 4: just kept going and going and going. I finally beat him.
Speaker 4: Now he didn't know we're racing, but I beat him.
Speaker 4: But you know, the funny thing is when I finally
Speaker 4: beat him, I looked up and I thought, oh man,
Speaker 4: I'm this my turn. It was way back there. I
Speaker 4: was supposed to turn it three blocks before, but I
Speaker 4: was so focused and I'm gonna beat this guy that
Speaker 4: doesn't even know I'm racing him, but you know, you know,
Speaker 4: and I just turn. But I think that's what we
Speaker 4: do in life. A lot of times. I'm not racing
Speaker 4: after any of y'all. I'm not racing after anybody else.
Speaker 4: I'm racing against myself to be the best that God's
Speaker 4: called me to be. So I love that scripture. Don't
Speaker 4: look to the left nor to the right. Be who
Speaker 4: God's called you to be. Celebrate somebody that's ahead of you.
Speaker 4: God blessing them doesn't stop God from blessing you. Like
Speaker 4: God ran out of favor because he gave them so much,
Speaker 4: God has favor, and really, unlike Saul and David, God
Speaker 4: can do for you what he did for the others,
Speaker 4: God can take you further. We talked about earlier. I
Speaker 4: think off camera that did a lot of those times.
Speaker 4: It's just a test. I wonder if Saul would have
Speaker 4: celebrated King David. I don't know, but I just encourage
Speaker 4: you to be content with what God's given you. You're
Speaker 4: not lacking, but God's given us all different gifts and
Speaker 4: you have to be we have to be wise enough
Speaker 4: and contend enough to accept it. How you Joe Evan Connor,
Speaker 4: pastor of Tell Then of your church.
Speaker 13: We're a truth family church. We're in Arlington, Texas.
Speaker 4: And you got your new building opening up this in
Speaker 4: six weeks. That's awesome.
Speaker 6: We're excited about it.
Speaker 4: We are so happy for you. These guys, Evan and
Speaker 4: Sarah are great pastors there and just faithful people. And
Speaker 4: I love what God's doing. And you know, thirteen years
Speaker 4: being in a mobile church, setting up, tearing down a
Speaker 4: lot of people would have gotten discouraged. But man, I
Speaker 4: admire you guys.
Speaker 13: Almost seven hundred times we've had to do that. Wow,
Speaker 13: but God's been faithful.
Speaker 4: Well, we're blessed to have you here.
Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm excited about your new book. I'm just excited
Speaker 13: that you let me read the pre released version. It's
Speaker 13: so good, I'm going to buy the real one when
Speaker 13: it comes out.
Speaker 4: I was reading.
Speaker 13: Chapter eight and Approve Yourself, and you said something I
Speaker 13: thought was powerful. You said, the problem with not liking
Speaker 13: yourself is that you're the only person who can you
Speaker 13: can never get away from.
Speaker 6: And I thought, wow.
Speaker 13: I think that's one of the biggest things that hold
Speaker 13: people back, is that we.
Speaker 4: Don't like ourselves.
Speaker 13: And I think it's because we think God doesn't like us.
Speaker 13: And in your book, you really help us understand. One
Speaker 13: of the things you say in the book is God
Speaker 13: said about Jesus, this is my beloved son and whom
Speaker 13: I'm well pleased. And Jesus hadn't done one miracle.
Speaker 4: And I think if we.
Speaker 13: See through God's lenses like he sees us, then we
Speaker 13: will accept ourselves.
Speaker 4: He's not looking for perfection.
Speaker 13: Jesus already done that. He's looking you know, maturity is
Speaker 13: the life that we are to live and not perfection.
Speaker 13: And maturity is a destination.
Speaker 4: It's not a journey.
Speaker 13: It's a journey, not of destination.
Speaker 4: So I'm excited.
Speaker 13: About your new book, and I do believe it's going
Speaker 13: to bless a whole lot of people. My question would be,
Speaker 13: how important do you feel it's necessary for someone to
Speaker 13: approve of themselves?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think Evan, it's incredibly important, because you can't
Speaker 4: if you go through life you got enough people, and
Speaker 4: we have enough people in life against us. You can't
Speaker 4: go through life being against yourself. I mean, I think
Speaker 4: the reason we don't have healthy relationships and a lot
Speaker 4: of times and not because somebody else, is because we
Speaker 4: don't get along with our selves, so we can't get
Speaker 4: along with somebody else. So again it goes back to
Speaker 4: what we've been talking about turning off the negative recording. Hey,
Speaker 4: you have some flaws and weakness, say so do I
Speaker 4: soor to Victorian more than me? So you all got
Speaker 4: we all have put we all have plenty of these.
Speaker 4: Why don't you turn off that recording and put beating
Speaker 4: yourself up? My goodness, life is too short to live
Speaker 4: beating yourself down and just being against yourself and thinking
Speaker 4: how everybody else is greater. But I just think you
Speaker 4: know everything you said, Evan is so important that you
Speaker 4: know when you're against yourself, you're not going to reach
Speaker 4: your full potential. Well, I'll explain it better in the book.
Speaker 4: But you know, I think the key is turning off.
Speaker 4: Get the right recording in your mind. Our thoughts are
Speaker 4: limiting us. It's not the enemy, it's not others. It's
Speaker 4: people like you.
Speaker 5: I like that you look at people like they all
Speaker 5: like you.
Speaker 4: You see people the way you see yourself. So you
Speaker 4: see your self defeated, you see yourself insecure, you see
Speaker 4: yourself unattractive. Then you're putting that out everywhere you go,
Speaker 4: even bodyline, you know, and this I don't measure up
Speaker 4: and stuff. You got to see yourself differently. And the
Speaker 4: story of the Ten Spies. They came back and they
Speaker 4: said we were in our own sits as grasshoppers as
Speaker 4: we were in their sights. They didn't say those guys
Speaker 4: over there in the Promised Land they called us grasshoppers.
Speaker 4: They said we felt like we were grasshoppers. And I
Speaker 4: think there's a lot of people living with that grasshopper mentality.
Speaker 4: When you're a child of the most taied God, when
Speaker 4: he's breathed life into you, when he's crowned you with favor,
Speaker 4: when you have seeds of greatness, imagine God, or imagine
Speaker 4: you know, an analogy of imagine your child coming up
Speaker 4: and oh Dad, please can I have something to eat? Please?
Speaker 4: Can I do this? I'm not worthy man. We would think,
Speaker 4: who are you? You know? Stand up tall, You're my son.
Speaker 4: And that's what God said to all of us, Stand
Speaker 4: up tall. I made you, I created you. Yeah, we've
Speaker 4: all made mistakes, we all have weaknesses, but I can't
Speaker 4: find hardly, hardly anybody in the Bible God's used that
Speaker 4: didn't have flaws and weaknesses, you know, that didn't make
Speaker 4: some mistakes, but that didn't disqualify them. God used them
Speaker 4: in spite of that. But you have to turn off
Speaker 4: that recording. If I'm not good enough and the insecurity
Speaker 4: and God could never use me, you turn that off.
Speaker 4: And that's what allows God to do great things. It's
Speaker 4: not that God's holding us back. So many times, were
Speaker 4: holding us back with the wrong thinking. Pastor rich Wilkerson
Speaker 4: from Trinity Trinity Fellowship in what city, CA? You? Miami? Yeah,
Speaker 4: I been friends of mine for friends of ours for
Speaker 4: so many years. Rich and Robert, your son Richie pastors in.
Speaker 7: About ten miles from us.
Speaker 4: Ten miles from you have another son pastors in New York.
Speaker 7: Yeah, hard with him the other day and I got
Speaker 7: another one pastoring in the Seattle area.
Speaker 4: Well, so we're real blessed. Well thanks for being here.
Speaker 7: I was really impressed with the chapter on Live as
Speaker 7: a bold Son. I just thought about your family because
Speaker 7: it was in nineteen eighty five and I was just
Speaker 7: about bleeding to death in the hospital and your dad,
Speaker 7: I don't even know how you got my number in
Speaker 7: a hospital, and brother John called and said, brother Rich,
Speaker 7: this is brother O's thing, and he said, Dode, he's
Speaker 7: got something to tell you.
Speaker 4: I'm like bleeding, you know.
Speaker 7: And your mom got on the phone said Rich, get
Speaker 7: out of that hospital.
Speaker 4: Now, that place may kill you. Get out.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna pray for you right now. She started praying,
Speaker 7: quoting verses over me. And I really I checked out
Speaker 7: that day. I literally checked out that day, and God
Speaker 7: heal me of a blood disease. And I think about
Speaker 7: that legacy that's on you. And I was just in
Speaker 7: Brooklyn and saw Jonathan and Alexandria on the stage and
Speaker 7: Jonathan got up and just started kind of preaching and
Speaker 7: everyone's just gonna go WHOA. And it just seems like
Speaker 7: it was a generational thing. And I want you to
Speaker 7: talk to that. But the chapter that got me was
Speaker 7: move up to next level thinking. The book is called
Speaker 7: next Level Thinking.
Speaker 4: But the chapter that I like, do it? Yeah, now
Speaker 4: do it?
Speaker 7: I mean, and I think that is where so many
Speaker 7: of us kind of have a roadblock. Yeah we want
Speaker 7: to have next level thinking?
Speaker 4: But how do you do that?
Speaker 7: And and in that chapter you just talk about, Hey,
Speaker 7: let's let's make the let's make a decision. Let's still
Speaker 7: talk about that, Joe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Rich just what you said, It's just
Speaker 4: a decision we have to make. It's not maybe not
Speaker 4: going to fall on us, not going to you know,
Speaker 4: something supernaturally happened, but just by the act of your
Speaker 4: will to say, you know what I am going to
Speaker 4: you know, talk a lot about in that chapter about
Speaker 4: it is finished. This, this function is finished. This, this
Speaker 4: mediocrity is finished. This bad attitude is finished. This living
Speaker 4: negative and not enjoying my life, it is finished. Well,
Speaker 4: you've got to just like Jesus said on the cross
Speaker 4: when he said it is finished, he wasn't just talking
Speaker 4: about his life. He was talking about all the shame,
Speaker 4: the guilt, all the stuff that's trying to hold us back.
Speaker 4: Doesn't do us any good though, unless we get an
Speaker 4: agreement with God and say, Okay, tonight is going to
Speaker 4: be a new night of victory in my life. You
Speaker 4: just draw that line in the sand and you decide
Speaker 4: to make you start making better decision. But when I've
Speaker 4: learned this, when you do your part, God will do
Speaker 4: his part. He will kick in. But sometimes we're waiting
Speaker 4: with Joe when I feel better, or when I get
Speaker 4: a break, or when my husband starts treating me better.
Speaker 4: But you know what, you got to say, No, I'm
Speaker 4: gonna make the first move right now. I'm going to
Speaker 4: you know, change the way I'm thinking. I'm gonna look
Speaker 4: at things from a new perspective. I'm gonna thank God
Speaker 4: for what's right and not what's wrong. And really rich
Speaker 4: is a lot like my father when he gave his
Speaker 4: life to Christ. You know, I don't know what came
Speaker 4: over him, and maybe just the decision he made, but
Speaker 4: he said, you know what poverty has finished in my life.
Speaker 4: Seventeen years old, in the Great Depression, no money, no education,
Speaker 4: his parents telling him, don't leave the farm. But you
Speaker 4: know what, he made that decision. I know God gave
Speaker 4: him the grace to do it, but he had to
Speaker 4: step into it and Again, it's not like he had
Speaker 4: a big Oh I got a scholarship now to go
Speaker 4: to school or something. He hitchies and started preaching in
Speaker 4: prison and on the street corners and things like that.
Speaker 4: But again, when you make that decision, it's amazing what
Speaker 4: God will do. And I like that. I think that's
Speaker 4: part of that. I talked about that son or a slave,
Speaker 4: and it reminded me because because so many times, you
Speaker 4: know how the Israelites, God brought them out of slavery,
Speaker 4: but as they went toward the Promised Land, they never
Speaker 4: got rid of a slave mentality. God had called them
Speaker 4: a son. But it's like the enemy kept calling you
Speaker 4: a slave. And so it's like, you know, God is
Speaker 4: calling you a son, the enemy is calling you a slave.
Speaker 4: Who you're going to say you are a son or
Speaker 4: a slave? Well, we are sons, we are daughters of
Speaker 4: the Most High God. But as long as you have
Speaker 4: a slave mentality, a defeated mentality, look what I've been through, Joel,
Speaker 4: or look look at these giants on my promised land. Listen,
Speaker 4: God has brought you through in the past, He's going
Speaker 4: to bring you through in the future. Don't have a
Speaker 4: slave mentality. Have a son mentality. Stephen Hayes, pastor of
Speaker 4: Covenant Church, with his mom and dad said next to them,
Speaker 4: great people. And Mike and Kathy Hayes have passed there
Speaker 4: how many years forty years they transitioned to Steve and
Speaker 4: he has not run it down yet, but he's doing great.
Speaker 4: But these guys have pastors. Mike and Kathy are just
Speaker 4: great friends and great leaders and just been friends of
Speaker 4: ours and Steve. I love. We were talking even last
Speaker 4: night about how the church you've transitioned the last couple
Speaker 4: of years. The church is strong, and I love to
Speaker 4: see healthy transitions. That's what happened at Lakewood, and I
Speaker 4: believe that's what's going to continue to happen with our
Speaker 4: church and other churches. But thanks for being here, y'all.
Speaker 4: Great blessing to us.
Speaker 14: Absolutely, And just as you wrapped up your last point,
Speaker 14: Pastor Joel, while it's so clear from what Pasor Keith
Speaker 14: said and others on breaking barriers and blazing new trail,
Speaker 14: what he's done now for his children, what you're doing
Speaker 14: for yours and in your church. I told you last
Speaker 14: night that just what you've done as a son, succeeding
Speaker 14: your father and doing an amazing job. Taking it further
Speaker 14: has helped to blaze a trail for me as well
Speaker 14: as a son coming in and thank you for that.
Speaker 14: But as much as all that's so important, in the
Speaker 14: next level thinking the chapter chapter six, it stood out
Speaker 14: to me that you just alluded to not thinking like
Speaker 14: a slave but thinking like a son. It comes back,
Speaker 14: I think so much to being able to really connect
Speaker 14: to what's possible is knowing who you are. You know,
Speaker 14: you can have good strategies about loving yourself, that's all
Speaker 14: so important, But if you don't know that you are
Speaker 14: a son and a daughter of God, and your approval
Speaker 14: is not based on your performance, it's based on His greatness,
Speaker 14: his goodness, and until you can really connect to that,
Speaker 14: I don't know that any of the other stuff's even possible.
Speaker 14: I don't know that I can really fully even love
Speaker 14: myself if I don't know that He loves me. And
Speaker 14: so that old chapter really got me, and specifically the
Speaker 14: story you told about the maintenance guy coming to your
Speaker 14: house to fix an air conditioner, and he said, you know,
Speaker 14: maintenance guy shows up, He's not going to go to
Speaker 14: the fridge, He's not going to go sit down and
Speaker 14: watch TV. Because it's not his home, right, He's going
Speaker 14: to go and do the job I hired him to do.
Speaker 14: But when Jonathan comes home from college, he's not going
Speaker 14: to ask permission to go to the fridge. He's not
Speaker 14: going to ask permission to watch TV. Because he's a son.
Speaker 14: He knows who he is. And I was talking to
Speaker 14: Pastor Phil before this, and he reminded me of a
Speaker 14: story I shared with him back in high school. My
Speaker 14: parents told me, Steven, your job is to be a
Speaker 14: good student and be an athlete and be faithful at church.
Speaker 14: And and so they helped me get my first car.
Speaker 14: But I worked to raise some money and they made
Speaker 14: me put my you know, put my money forward for
Speaker 14: it and raise money. Well, then when I got the car,
Speaker 14: I was the only one of my friends that had
Speaker 14: a car. So I became the car pool guy, right.
Speaker 14: I took everybody to practice. And so then my dad
Speaker 14: got me. He made the mistake of giving me a
Speaker 14: Chevron gas card, and then all of a sudden, any
Speaker 14: of my friends that needed some snacks were buying Gatorade
Speaker 14: after practice. I the first month, the first month, it
Speaker 14: was like one thousand dollars I spent at Chevron I
Speaker 14: got creative. You could you could feed a few guys
Speaker 14: at Chevron, you know. And they sat me down, said Steve,
Speaker 14: when we understand what you're doing. But listen, you can't
Speaker 14: just feed everybody at the gas station. But I recognized
Speaker 14: I ordered it, but my dad's covering the bill, Like
Speaker 14: I know who my dad is, and he's paying the bill.
Speaker 14: And it taught me a lesson later in life that
Speaker 14: not everyone that was raised with great parents, but I was,
Speaker 14: and I had a father and mother that were providing
Speaker 14: for me. And because of that relationship, I was able
Speaker 14: to walk into boldness and a faith that otherwise I've
Speaker 14: seen people not be able to do. And your analogy
Speaker 14: with the Israelites having been rescued through miracles of the
Speaker 14: plagues and then even the cloud by day, fire by night,
Speaker 14: incredible red sea parted, but then they forgot who they were.
Speaker 14: And I've heard it said before that Jesus or that
Speaker 14: God took them out of Egypt, but it took forty
Speaker 14: years to take the Egypt out of them. I feel
Speaker 14: like a lot of people I experienced at a church
Speaker 14: where or people will leave a place because they think
Speaker 14: the place was the problem, but they wherever you go there,
Speaker 14: you are. I think that mentality is a big limiting factor.
Speaker 14: How do you help encourage people even when they come
Speaker 14: and they're excited to be here, but you recognize they
Speaker 14: still got some Egypt on them. How do you get
Speaker 14: them really to get over the fact that you know,
Speaker 14: you left and that may have been good, but you
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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think what you're saying is true. It's just
Speaker 4: a day at a time. Keep teaching them, keep encouraging them.
Speaker 4: And you know you said it so beautifully. But knowing
Speaker 4: that we are I like going back to that bay,
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Speaker 4: that we are approved, that we are accepted, knowing that
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Speaker 4: foundation for the next level thinking. So Stephen, thanks for
Speaker 4: sharing that. Thanks for all of our great pastors here
Speaker 4: and Victoria, Nick, and thank you guys for watching. Nick.
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