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Speaker 4: Hey welcome everybody. We are so glad to have your

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Speaker 4: believe that twenty eighteen is going to be an amazing

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Speaker 4: year in your life, a year where God exceeds your expectations.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for tuning in. I'm here with my beautiful wife Victoria,

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Speaker 4: my friend Nick Nielson. Nick. Can I see that I've

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Speaker 4: got a new book out. It's called Next Level Thinking.

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Speaker 4: It's ten powerful thoughts for a successful and Abundant Life,

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Speaker 4: and it comes out this Tuesday, but hope you'll pick

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Speaker 4: up a copy and we'll talk a little bit about it. Today.

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Speaker 4: I'm sitting here with a couple of hundred of the finest,

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Speaker 4: most powerful anointed pastors and all of America right here.

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Speaker 4: So guys and ladies, thank you so much for being

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Speaker 4: with us. We're going to have a great time. But Nick,

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Speaker 4: thanks for being a part in Victoria. Say hello, Dinbo, No.

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Speaker 5: I'm excited about this webcast. We're going to have a

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Speaker 5: great time. And who doesn't want to go to the

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Speaker 5: next level in they're thinking, I know, I do.

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Speaker 4: So we have.

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Speaker 5: Amazing people here and Pastor Nick, you're always so great

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Speaker 5: at like bringing out those great points and so you know,

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Speaker 5: we're glad that you tuned in because you're really special

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Speaker 5: to this webcast. We know that we pray for you,

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Speaker 5: know that we are for you. We know that God

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Speaker 5: has amazing things in your future. So thank you for

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Speaker 5: tuning in, and we're all going to go to the

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Speaker 6: You know, we just want to have a conversation about

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Speaker 6: this book, Pastor and I just I think it's a

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Speaker 6: very relevant book, applicable book. But what what do you

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Speaker 6: hope people grab from this book. I mean, what's what's

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Speaker 4: Well, Nick, that I believe our life follows our thoughts,

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Speaker 4: and so so many times we're thinking defeating thoughts and

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Speaker 4: negative thoughts or limiting thoughts, and it's not God limiting us.

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Speaker 4: We're limiting ourselves worth our thinking. And so I'm encouraging

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Speaker 4: people in the book to you know, let's take the

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Speaker 4: will never rise any higher than the way you see yourself,

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Speaker 4: than what's going on in your mind. And most of

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Speaker 4: The experts tell us that we talk to ourselves more

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Speaker 4: Sometimes we don't realize it, but the recording is negative.

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Speaker 4: It's just how we've grown up. As you know what.

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Speaker 4: When they told me the Compact Center was coming available.

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Speaker 4: But you know, when I heard that, I thought, you

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Speaker 4: And it doesn't happen automatically. But you know, when you

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Speaker 4: So that's what the book is about. Wherever you are,

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Speaker 4: I almost start believing for bigger things. Yeah, God, you

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Speaker 6: There's ten thoughts, so each of them are phenomenal on

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Speaker 6: their own. Right there, there's chapter two years when I

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Speaker 6: It says you are fully loaded and completely equipped for

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Speaker 6: So many people that we meet feel inadequate to do

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Speaker 4: It's exactly how I felt, nick when my father went

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Speaker 4: here I was supposed to step up and pasture the church.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how to explain it. I just knew

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Speaker 4: And I thought, God, I don't have any of that.

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Speaker 4: You've got to change that recording again and know that, hey,

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Speaker 5: That's kind of the preparation part, isn't it. That whole

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Speaker 5: speaking to yourself when that potential is calling out, you're scared,

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Speaker 5: So I think sometimes people think, well, what's happening when

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've learned you can talk yourself into your dreams

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Speaker 4: So I just encourage those of you and those of

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Speaker 4: but take the limits off of yourself. Quit telling yourself

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Speaker 4: put in you is what you need to fulfill your destiny.

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Speaker 4: You are not lacking. You didn't get left out. God

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Speaker 6: You talk a lot about knowing your value and knowing

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Speaker 6: that your value doesn't come from you do or your paycheck,

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Speaker 6: but just knowing that your value comes from your creator.

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Speaker 10: of your book because we believe in you elevate your thinking,

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Speaker 4: my father gave his life to Christ and the first

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Speaker 4: one in his family and he you know, he felt

433
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Speaker 4: like God called him to preach. He hitchhiked and he

434
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Speaker 4: started preaching. And his family thought, you know, he's crazy.

435
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Speaker 4: Why would you leave the farm. This is all you

436
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Speaker 4: know how to do. But my dad went on, obviously

437
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Speaker 4: to found Lakewood and pastor great churches all over the world.

438
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Speaker 4: But one thing that what he told me, He said, Joel,

439
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Speaker 4: I when I gave my life to Christ at seventeen,

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Speaker 4: I made a decision that my children would never be

441
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Speaker 4: raised in the poverty that I was raised in. So

442
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Speaker 4: my father he rose up by the decisions that he

443
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Speaker 4: made and by the grace of God, and he broke

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Speaker 4: the curse of poverty in our family. And you know, today,

445
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Speaker 4: you know what, we're blessed because my father took a stand.

446
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Speaker 4: So I am. I mean, I'll be the first to

447
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Speaker 4: tell you I'm reaping seeds because my mother and my

448
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Speaker 4: father have planted and sewed, and you know, broke that

449
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Speaker 4: curse of poverty. But later in life, my dad, you know,

450
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Speaker 4: he loved to reminisce his Joel Victoria drive back to Paris, Texas,

451
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Speaker 4: where he grew up. And so we went back and

452
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Speaker 4: we found the old farm where he lived on the

453
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Speaker 4: house was gone, but we found the well was still there.

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Speaker 4: And he used to tell me he had to walk

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Speaker 4: two miles to school. And we looked in this school

456
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Speaker 4: was like one hundred yards away, not so big in

457
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Speaker 4: your mind, but he could not convince the guy said, no,

458
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Speaker 4: that was the school. No, it was two miles away.

459
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Speaker 4: But anyway, so we got there, you know, then we

460
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Speaker 4: drove around. He went to find some friends and this

461
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Speaker 4: guy sitting on his front porch and house had a whole,

462
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Speaker 4: you know, roof had leaks in and it was one

463
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Speaker 4: of even hardly a house. It was a shit. And

464
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Speaker 4: the guy was out there without his shirt on, just

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Speaker 4: kind of killing time. And I said, you wasn't a

466
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Speaker 4: good person. But my dad walked up and said, you

467
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Speaker 4: know whatever his name was, and he said, hey, this

468
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Speaker 4: is John Ostein. Hadn't spoken to him in like sixty years.

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Speaker 4: And you know, my dad got to talk and what

470
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Speaker 4: did you do? Sh worked at the boat shop a

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Speaker 4: little way, and I did this for a little while,

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Speaker 4: you know, and got laid off back then. My back's

473
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Speaker 4: been hurting, but I just thought, man, what a difference

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Speaker 4: when somebody raises up and sets a new standard. It

475
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Speaker 4: didn't you know what, nothing against the gentleman there. You know,

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Speaker 4: he didn't do it, But I thought, look at the

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Speaker 4: two My dad had touched people all over the world,

478
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Speaker 4: had a you know, a family that was doing great things.

479
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Speaker 4: So it's so important that man. You can become a

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Speaker 4: burier breaker, you can rise out of any dysfunction or

481
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Speaker 4: just out of the I believe God wants every generation

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Speaker 4: to increase. That's why when my dad went to be

483
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Speaker 4: with Lord, people used to ask me, do you think

484
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Speaker 4: you can continue on what your father started? And here

485
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Speaker 4: I didn't have any experience, but something down in here.

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Speaker 4: I would tell them, not arrogantly at all, I'd say,

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Speaker 4: you know what, I think I can not only carry

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Speaker 4: it on, but I think we can go further because

489
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Speaker 4: it's the way God designed it. He didn't want us

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Speaker 4: to go backwards. He wants every generation to increase. We

491
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Speaker 4: want our children to go further as well. So why

492
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Speaker 4: don't you go break some barriers for your family. You know,

493
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Speaker 4: nobody broke the four minute mile for you know, forever

494
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Speaker 4: in history. Then the guy broke it, and then after that,

495
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Speaker 4: within like six months, forty three other people broke it.

496
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Speaker 4: And it's like the burial was in our mind that

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Speaker 4: we can't break a four minute mile. I can't be successful,

498
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Speaker 4: I can't break this addiction. You know what, you have

499
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Speaker 4: the power of the most time God on the inside

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Speaker 4: of you. You'd be amazed at what you can do. Keith,

501
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Speaker 4: tell us that story. It's really powerful.

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Speaker 10: My dad. I was about eleven years old, and my

503
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Speaker 10: dad said, hey, come get in the car, and I

504
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Speaker 10: had no idea where we were going. Three hours later,

505
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Speaker 10: we were in front of a house that was very similar

506
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Speaker 10: to what you described shack. No wind is on the

507
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Speaker 10: on the on the you know, no glass on the

508
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Speaker 10: wind is the door is broken down going in the house,

509
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Speaker 10: and we walk in the house and this floor was dirt.

510
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Speaker 10: There was a one piece of furniture, and there was

511
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Speaker 10: an old man sitting over in the corner. And we

512
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Speaker 10: walked over there and I was holding my dad's hand,

513
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Speaker 10: and he said, hey, Dad, I never I'd never met

514
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Speaker 10: my grandfather. And my dad had a bag of money

515
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Speaker 10: for him and some candy and my grandfather, which I

516
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Speaker 10: didn't even know that's who it was, but didn't really

517
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Speaker 10: if you acknowledged me, didn't say hello, but my dad

518
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Speaker 10: just talked to him for a minute. I kind of

519
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Speaker 10: walked away, and we were there for about ten minutes

520
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Speaker 10: and we walked out of the house and I remember

521
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Speaker 10: looking up at my dad and I said, Dad, I

522
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Speaker 10: never want to go back there, and he said, that's

523
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Speaker 10: why I brought you here, because this is where we're from.

524
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Speaker 10: But this is not who we are. And it's so

525
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Speaker 10: impacted my life that I said, you know what, I

526
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Speaker 10: can be somebody. I can be somebody, And not that

527
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Speaker 10: that my grandfather that I never saw again, never met again,

528
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Speaker 10: never talked to him, Not that he wasn't a good man,

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Speaker 10: that's not the The point is is that where wherever

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Speaker 10: you come from, that doesn't have to be who you are.

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Speaker 4: You can break a barrier.

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Speaker 11: Yes, So right, wow, Tester Chad You up next, Sir

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Speaker 11: Pester chad Row from Destiny World, Outreaching Colleen, Texas ministers

534
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Speaker 11: to a lot of the soldiers and people that have

535
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Speaker 11: away at the military.

536
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Speaker 12: Largest armored base in the free world there in Colleen.

537
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Speaker 12: So almost all the soldiers of military are come from there.

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Speaker 12: And so we've taken an honor, you know, pastor Joe

539
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Speaker 12: in your book next level thinking, it's just so amazing.

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Speaker 12: And I noticed in the chapter two about being fully loaded,

541
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Speaker 12: and how what I took out of that is about

542
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Speaker 12: running your race and staying in your lane and not

543
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Speaker 12: trying to run other people's races, because it's easy, I

544
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Speaker 12: know in my life, to get caught up and seeing

545
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Speaker 12: what everybody else is doing, how great everybody else is,

546
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Speaker 12: and you might try to get in that race and

547
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Speaker 12: run their race and their lane instead of being fully

548
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Speaker 12: loaded and annoying it. As you've said, for the race

549
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Speaker 12: that God has put in you. I grew up to

550
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Speaker 12: honor vessels men of God. But one thing I noticed

551
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Speaker 12: in reading your book, it's not so much the vessel

552
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Speaker 12: but the anointing on the vessel. And that's what I

553
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Speaker 12: loved about that is how how does somebody recognize that

554
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Speaker 12: and stay focused on their race and in their lane

555
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Speaker 12: when there's so much other things going on around you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's such an important point, Chad, it really is.

557
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Speaker 4: Let me get to that question a minute, but it

558
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Speaker 4: reminds me that I think I used the analogy in

559
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Speaker 4: the Book of you know when King Saul killed thousands

560
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Speaker 4: and then they started, well, yeah, the people started singing

561
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Speaker 4: after this great victory. King Saul has killed thousands, and

562
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Speaker 4: David had killed tens of thousands. I can only imagine

563
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Speaker 4: when King King Saul has killed thousands, they're singing about me. Man,

564
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Speaker 4: that's great. Everything was fine, I can imagine until he

565
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Speaker 4: heard what they say David's killed tens of thousands. His

566
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Speaker 4: whole attitude changed. He wasn't content with being one thousand

567
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Speaker 4: person versus ten thousand, you know, defeated person. So you know,

568
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Speaker 4: sometimes you have to accept, Hey, God, this is who

569
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Speaker 4: you made me to be. I may not have killed

570
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Speaker 4: ten thousand, but I've killed a thousand. I'm gonna be

571
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Speaker 4: happy with with what you've given me to do with

572
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Speaker 4: the gifts you've given me. And I really believe Saul

573
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 4: missed his destiny because he was jealous of somebody else

574
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Speaker 4: if he could have just celebrated them. And I think

575
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Speaker 4: it is. And when you're talking about being fully loaded

576
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Speaker 4: and totally equipped, hey, you may not be I may

577
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Speaker 4: not be Tdjake, so I may not be somebody else,

578
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Speaker 4: But you know what, You've got to be the best

579
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Speaker 4: that you can be and celebrate somebody else. That's what

580
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Speaker 4: I love about it. I've got a great team around me.

581
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Speaker 4: I've got brothers and sisters and brothers in laws. You

582
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Speaker 4: know what I'm the younger brother, the younger than some

583
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Speaker 4: of them, but they all celebrate me. But when you

584
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Speaker 4: recognize who you are and you're content and who God

585
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 4: made you to be, I think it's so important. You know, Chad,

586
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Speaker 4: it's the distractions. It's looking at that and you know

587
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Speaker 4: somebody else, Well, God, why didn't you give me that?

588
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Speaker 4: Or God, why am my church bigger? Well? God, why

589
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Speaker 4: can't I? You know what, you got to tune all

590
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Speaker 4: that up out and be content and be happy with

591
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Speaker 4: who God made you to be. The fact is somebody

592
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,120
Speaker 4: would love to have what you have. Somebody would gladly

593
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 4: trade places with you. And it's easy to be happy

594
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 4: until you start comparing and competing with other people. I

595
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 4: remember one time I was running through my neighborhood and

596
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Speaker 4: I have this path I run. It's two mile path,

597
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 4: and when there's this long boulevard, probably a mile, and

598
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Speaker 4: I saw a guy about all two blocks in front

599
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Speaker 4: of me, you know, a few hundred yards, and I

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Speaker 4: just I just you know, I'm just feeling competitive. I

601
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 4: want to raise somebody. I thought I'm gonna race him.

602
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Speaker 4: And so he's running up there, and man, he's going

603
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Speaker 4: pretty good, but I'm gaining on him and gaining on him,

604
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Speaker 4: panting I'm just trying to beat him, and I finally

605
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,679
Speaker 4: just kept going and going and going. I finally beat him.

606
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Speaker 4: Now he didn't know we're racing, but I beat him.

607
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Speaker 4: But you know, the funny thing is when I finally

608
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Speaker 4: beat him, I looked up and I thought, oh man,

609
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Speaker 4: I'm this my turn. It was way back there. I

610
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 4: was supposed to turn it three blocks before, but I

611
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 4: was so focused and I'm gonna beat this guy that

612
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 4: doesn't even know I'm racing him, but you know, you know,

613
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,679
Speaker 4: and I just turn. But I think that's what we

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Speaker 4: do in life. A lot of times. I'm not racing

615
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 4: after any of y'all. I'm not racing after anybody else.

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Speaker 4: I'm racing against myself to be the best that God's

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Speaker 4: called me to be. So I love that scripture. Don't

618
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Speaker 4: look to the left nor to the right. Be who

619
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Speaker 4: God's called you to be. Celebrate somebody that's ahead of you.

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Speaker 4: God blessing them doesn't stop God from blessing you. Like

621
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Speaker 4: God ran out of favor because he gave them so much,

622
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Speaker 4: God has favor, and really, unlike Saul and David, God

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Speaker 4: can do for you what he did for the others,

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Speaker 4: God can take you further. We talked about earlier. I

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Speaker 4: think off camera that did a lot of those times.

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Speaker 4: It's just a test. I wonder if Saul would have

627
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Speaker 4: celebrated King David. I don't know, but I just encourage

628
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 4: you to be content with what God's given you. You're

629
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Speaker 4: not lacking, but God's given us all different gifts and

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Speaker 4: you have to be we have to be wise enough

631
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Speaker 4: and contend enough to accept it. How you Joe Evan Connor,

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Speaker 4: pastor of Tell Then of your church.

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Speaker 13: We're a truth family church. We're in Arlington, Texas.

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Speaker 4: And you got your new building opening up this in

635
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Speaker 4: six weeks. That's awesome.

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Speaker 6: We're excited about it.

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Speaker 4: We are so happy for you. These guys, Evan and

638
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 4: Sarah are great pastors there and just faithful people. And

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00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 4: I love what God's doing. And you know, thirteen years

640
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Speaker 4: being in a mobile church, setting up, tearing down a

641
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 4: lot of people would have gotten discouraged. But man, I

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Speaker 4: admire you guys.

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Speaker 13: Almost seven hundred times we've had to do that. Wow,

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Speaker 13: but God's been faithful.

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Speaker 4: Well, we're blessed to have you here.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm excited about your new book. I'm just excited

647
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Speaker 13: that you let me read the pre released version. It's

648
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Speaker 13: so good, I'm going to buy the real one when

649
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Speaker 13: it comes out.

650
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Speaker 4: I was reading.

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Speaker 13: Chapter eight and Approve Yourself, and you said something I

652
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Speaker 13: thought was powerful. You said, the problem with not liking

653
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Speaker 13: yourself is that you're the only person who can you

654
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Speaker 13: can never get away from.

655
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Speaker 6: And I thought, wow.

656
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Speaker 13: I think that's one of the biggest things that hold

657
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Speaker 13: people back, is that we.

658
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Speaker 4: Don't like ourselves.

659
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Speaker 13: And I think it's because we think God doesn't like us.

660
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Speaker 13: And in your book, you really help us understand. One

661
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Speaker 13: of the things you say in the book is God

662
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Speaker 13: said about Jesus, this is my beloved son and whom

663
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Speaker 13: I'm well pleased. And Jesus hadn't done one miracle.

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Speaker 4: And I think if we.

665
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Speaker 13: See through God's lenses like he sees us, then we

666
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Speaker 13: will accept ourselves.

667
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Speaker 4: He's not looking for perfection.

668
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Speaker 13: Jesus already done that. He's looking you know, maturity is

669
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Speaker 13: the life that we are to live and not perfection.

670
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Speaker 13: And maturity is a destination.

671
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Speaker 4: It's not a journey.

672
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Speaker 13: It's a journey, not of destination.

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Speaker 4: So I'm excited.

674
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Speaker 13: About your new book, and I do believe it's going

675
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Speaker 13: to bless a whole lot of people. My question would be,

676
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Speaker 13: how important do you feel it's necessary for someone to

677
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Speaker 13: approve of themselves?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I think Evan, it's incredibly important, because you can't

679
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Speaker 4: if you go through life you got enough people, and

680
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Speaker 4: we have enough people in life against us. You can't

681
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Speaker 4: go through life being against yourself. I mean, I think

682
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Speaker 4: the reason we don't have healthy relationships and a lot

683
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Speaker 4: of times and not because somebody else, is because we

684
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Speaker 4: don't get along with our selves, so we can't get

685
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Speaker 4: along with somebody else. So again it goes back to

686
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Speaker 4: what we've been talking about turning off the negative recording. Hey,

687
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Speaker 4: you have some flaws and weakness, say so do I

688
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 4: soor to Victorian more than me? So you all got

689
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 4: we all have put we all have plenty of these.

690
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Speaker 4: Why don't you turn off that recording and put beating

691
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Speaker 4: yourself up? My goodness, life is too short to live

692
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Speaker 4: beating yourself down and just being against yourself and thinking

693
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Speaker 4: how everybody else is greater. But I just think you

694
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Speaker 4: know everything you said, Evan is so important that you

695
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Speaker 4: know when you're against yourself, you're not going to reach

696
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Speaker 4: your full potential. Well, I'll explain it better in the book.

697
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Speaker 4: But you know, I think the key is turning off.

698
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Speaker 4: Get the right recording in your mind. Our thoughts are

699
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Speaker 4: limiting us. It's not the enemy, it's not others. It's

700
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Speaker 4: people like you.

701
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Speaker 5: I like that you look at people like they all

702
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Speaker 5: like you.

703
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Speaker 4: You see people the way you see yourself. So you

704
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Speaker 4: see your self defeated, you see yourself insecure, you see

705
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Speaker 4: yourself unattractive. Then you're putting that out everywhere you go,

706
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Speaker 4: even bodyline, you know, and this I don't measure up

707
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 4: and stuff. You got to see yourself differently. And the

708
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Speaker 4: story of the Ten Spies. They came back and they

709
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Speaker 4: said we were in our own sits as grasshoppers as

710
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Speaker 4: we were in their sights. They didn't say those guys

711
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Speaker 4: over there in the Promised Land they called us grasshoppers.

712
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 4: They said we felt like we were grasshoppers. And I

713
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Speaker 4: think there's a lot of people living with that grasshopper mentality.

714
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Speaker 4: When you're a child of the most taied God, when

715
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Speaker 4: he's breathed life into you, when he's crowned you with favor,

716
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Speaker 4: when you have seeds of greatness, imagine God, or imagine

717
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 4: you know, an analogy of imagine your child coming up

718
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Speaker 4: and oh Dad, please can I have something to eat? Please?

719
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Speaker 4: Can I do this? I'm not worthy man. We would think,

720
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Speaker 4: who are you? You know? Stand up tall, You're my son.

721
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Speaker 4: And that's what God said to all of us, Stand

722
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Speaker 4: up tall. I made you, I created you. Yeah, we've

723
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Speaker 4: all made mistakes, we all have weaknesses, but I can't

724
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Speaker 4: find hardly, hardly anybody in the Bible God's used that

725
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Speaker 4: didn't have flaws and weaknesses, you know, that didn't make

726
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Speaker 4: some mistakes, but that didn't disqualify them. God used them

727
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Speaker 4: in spite of that. But you have to turn off

728
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Speaker 4: that recording. If I'm not good enough and the insecurity

729
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Speaker 4: and God could never use me, you turn that off.

730
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Speaker 4: And that's what allows God to do great things. It's

731
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Speaker 4: not that God's holding us back. So many times, were

732
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Speaker 4: holding us back with the wrong thinking. Pastor rich Wilkerson

733
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Speaker 4: from Trinity Trinity Fellowship in what city, CA? You? Miami? Yeah,

734
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Speaker 4: I been friends of mine for friends of ours for

735
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Speaker 4: so many years. Rich and Robert, your son Richie pastors in.

736
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Speaker 7: About ten miles from us.

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Speaker 4: Ten miles from you have another son pastors in New York.

738
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Speaker 7: Yeah, hard with him the other day and I got

739
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Speaker 7: another one pastoring in the Seattle area.

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Speaker 4: Well, so we're real blessed. Well thanks for being here.

741
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Speaker 7: I was really impressed with the chapter on Live as

742
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Speaker 7: a bold Son. I just thought about your family because

743
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Speaker 7: it was in nineteen eighty five and I was just

744
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Speaker 7: about bleeding to death in the hospital and your dad,

745
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Speaker 7: I don't even know how you got my number in

746
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Speaker 7: a hospital, and brother John called and said, brother Rich,

747
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Speaker 7: this is brother O's thing, and he said, Dode, he's

748
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Speaker 7: got something to tell you.

749
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Speaker 4: I'm like bleeding, you know.

750
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Speaker 7: And your mom got on the phone said Rich, get

751
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Speaker 7: out of that hospital.

752
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 4: Now, that place may kill you. Get out.

753
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Speaker 7: I'm gonna pray for you right now. She started praying,

754
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Speaker 7: quoting verses over me. And I really I checked out

755
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Speaker 7: that day. I literally checked out that day, and God

756
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Speaker 7: heal me of a blood disease. And I think about

757
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 7: that legacy that's on you. And I was just in

758
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Speaker 7: Brooklyn and saw Jonathan and Alexandria on the stage and

759
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Speaker 7: Jonathan got up and just started kind of preaching and

760
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Speaker 7: everyone's just gonna go WHOA. And it just seems like

761
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Speaker 7: it was a generational thing. And I want you to

762
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Speaker 7: talk to that. But the chapter that got me was

763
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Speaker 7: move up to next level thinking. The book is called

764
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Speaker 7: next Level Thinking.

765
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Speaker 4: But the chapter that I like, do it? Yeah, now

766
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Speaker 4: do it?

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Speaker 7: I mean, and I think that is where so many

768
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Speaker 7: of us kind of have a roadblock. Yeah we want

769
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Speaker 7: to have next level thinking?

770
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Speaker 4: But how do you do that?

771
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Speaker 7: And and in that chapter you just talk about, Hey,

772
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Speaker 7: let's let's make the let's make a decision. Let's still

773
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Speaker 7: talk about that, Joe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Rich just what you said, It's just

775
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Speaker 4: a decision we have to make. It's not maybe not

776
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Speaker 4: going to fall on us, not going to you know,

777
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 4: something supernaturally happened, but just by the act of your

778
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 4: will to say, you know what I am going to

779
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 4: you know, talk a lot about in that chapter about

780
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Speaker 4: it is finished. This, this function is finished. This, this

781
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,479
Speaker 4: mediocrity is finished. This bad attitude is finished. This living

782
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 4: negative and not enjoying my life, it is finished. Well,

783
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 4: you've got to just like Jesus said on the cross

784
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 4: when he said it is finished, he wasn't just talking

785
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 4: about his life. He was talking about all the shame,

786
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 4: the guilt, all the stuff that's trying to hold us back.

787
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 4: Doesn't do us any good though, unless we get an

788
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 4: agreement with God and say, Okay, tonight is going to

789
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Speaker 4: be a new night of victory in my life. You

790
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 4: just draw that line in the sand and you decide

791
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 4: to make you start making better decision. But when I've

792
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 4: learned this, when you do your part, God will do

793
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,359
Speaker 4: his part. He will kick in. But sometimes we're waiting

794
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 4: with Joe when I feel better, or when I get

795
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 4: a break, or when my husband starts treating me better.

796
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 4: But you know what, you got to say, No, I'm

797
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 4: gonna make the first move right now. I'm going to

798
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Speaker 4: you know, change the way I'm thinking. I'm gonna look

799
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Speaker 4: at things from a new perspective. I'm gonna thank God

800
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 4: for what's right and not what's wrong. And really rich

801
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 4: is a lot like my father when he gave his

802
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 4: life to Christ. You know, I don't know what came

803
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 4: over him, and maybe just the decision he made, but

804
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 4: he said, you know what poverty has finished in my life.

805
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 4: Seventeen years old, in the Great Depression, no money, no education,

806
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 4: his parents telling him, don't leave the farm. But you

807
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 4: know what, he made that decision. I know God gave

808
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 4: him the grace to do it, but he had to

809
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 4: step into it and Again, it's not like he had

810
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 4: a big Oh I got a scholarship now to go

811
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 4: to school or something. He hitchies and started preaching in

812
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 4: prison and on the street corners and things like that.

813
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 4: But again, when you make that decision, it's amazing what

814
00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 4: God will do. And I like that. I think that's

815
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Speaker 4: part of that. I talked about that son or a slave,

816
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 4: and it reminded me because because so many times, you

817
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 4: know how the Israelites, God brought them out of slavery,

818
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 4: but as they went toward the Promised Land, they never

819
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Speaker 4: got rid of a slave mentality. God had called them

820
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 4: a son. But it's like the enemy kept calling you

821
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Speaker 4: a slave. And so it's like, you know, God is

822
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 4: calling you a son, the enemy is calling you a slave.

823
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 4: Who you're going to say you are a son or

824
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Speaker 4: a slave? Well, we are sons, we are daughters of

825
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 4: the Most High God. But as long as you have

826
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 4: a slave mentality, a defeated mentality, look what I've been through, Joel,

827
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 4: or look look at these giants on my promised land. Listen,

828
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Speaker 4: God has brought you through in the past, He's going

829
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 4: to bring you through in the future. Don't have a

830
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 4: slave mentality. Have a son mentality. Stephen Hayes, pastor of

831
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Speaker 4: Covenant Church, with his mom and dad said next to them,

832
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 4: great people. And Mike and Kathy Hayes have passed there

833
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 4: how many years forty years they transitioned to Steve and

834
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 4: he has not run it down yet, but he's doing great.

835
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,120
Speaker 4: But these guys have pastors. Mike and Kathy are just

836
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 4: great friends and great leaders and just been friends of

837
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Speaker 4: ours and Steve. I love. We were talking even last

838
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Speaker 4: night about how the church you've transitioned the last couple

839
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Speaker 4: of years. The church is strong, and I love to

840
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 4: see healthy transitions. That's what happened at Lakewood, and I

841
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 4: believe that's what's going to continue to happen with our

842
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 4: church and other churches. But thanks for being here, y'all.

843
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: Great blessing to us.

844
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Speaker 14: Absolutely, And just as you wrapped up your last point,

845
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Speaker 14: Pastor Joel, while it's so clear from what Pasor Keith

846
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 14: said and others on breaking barriers and blazing new trail,

847
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 14: what he's done now for his children, what you're doing

848
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 14: for yours and in your church. I told you last

849
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Speaker 14: night that just what you've done as a son, succeeding

850
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 14: your father and doing an amazing job. Taking it further

851
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,239
Speaker 14: has helped to blaze a trail for me as well

852
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 14: as a son coming in and thank you for that.

853
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 14: But as much as all that's so important, in the

854
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Speaker 14: next level thinking the chapter chapter six, it stood out

855
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Speaker 14: to me that you just alluded to not thinking like

856
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 14: a slave but thinking like a son. It comes back,

857
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 14: I think so much to being able to really connect

858
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 14: to what's possible is knowing who you are. You know,

859
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 14: you can have good strategies about loving yourself, that's all

860
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 14: so important, But if you don't know that you are

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Speaker 14: a son and a daughter of God, and your approval

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Speaker 14: is not based on your performance, it's based on His greatness,

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Speaker 14: his goodness, and until you can really connect to that,

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Speaker 14: I don't know that any of the other stuff's even possible.

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Speaker 14: I don't know that I can really fully even love

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Speaker 14: myself if I don't know that He loves me. And

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Speaker 14: so that old chapter really got me, and specifically the

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Speaker 14: story you told about the maintenance guy coming to your

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Speaker 14: house to fix an air conditioner, and he said, you know,

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Speaker 14: the fridge, He's not going to go sit down and

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Speaker 14: watch TV. Because it's not his home, right, He's going

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Speaker 14: to go and do the job I hired him to do.

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Speaker 14: But when Jonathan comes home from college, he's not going

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Speaker 14: to ask permission to go to the fridge. He's not

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Speaker 14: going to ask permission to watch TV. Because he's a son.

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Speaker 14: He knows who he is. And I was talking to

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Speaker 14: Pastor Phil before this, and he reminded me of a

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Speaker 14: story I shared with him back in high school. My

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Speaker 14: parents told me, Steven, your job is to be a

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Speaker 14: good student and be an athlete and be faithful at church.

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Speaker 14: And and so they helped me get my first car.

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Speaker 14: But I worked to raise some money and they made

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Speaker 14: me put my you know, put my money forward for

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Speaker 14: it and raise money. Well, then when I got the car,

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Speaker 14: I was the only one of my friends that had

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Speaker 14: a car. So I became the car pool guy, right.

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Speaker 14: I took everybody to practice. And so then my dad

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Speaker 14: got me. He made the mistake of giving me a

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Speaker 14: Chevron gas card, and then all of a sudden, any

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Speaker 14: of my friends that needed some snacks were buying Gatorade

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Speaker 14: after practice. I the first month, the first month, it

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Speaker 14: was like one thousand dollars I spent at Chevron I

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Speaker 14: got creative. You could you could feed a few guys

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Speaker 14: at Chevron, you know. And they sat me down, said Steve,

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Speaker 14: when we understand what you're doing. But listen, you can't

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Speaker 14: just feed everybody at the gas station. But I recognized

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Speaker 14: I ordered it, but my dad's covering the bill, Like

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Speaker 14: I know who my dad is, and he's paying the bill.

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Speaker 14: And it taught me a lesson later in life that

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Speaker 14: not everyone that was raised with great parents, but I was,

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Speaker 14: and I had a father and mother that were providing

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Speaker 14: for me. And because of that relationship, I was able

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Speaker 14: to walk into boldness and a faith that otherwise I've

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Speaker 14: seen people not be able to do. And your analogy

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Speaker 14: with the Israelites having been rescued through miracles of the

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Speaker 14: plagues and then even the cloud by day, fire by night,

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Speaker 14: incredible red sea parted, but then they forgot who they were.

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Speaker 14: And I've heard it said before that Jesus or that

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Speaker 14: God took them out of Egypt, but it took forty

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Speaker 14: years to take the Egypt out of them. I feel

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Speaker 14: like a lot of people I experienced at a church

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Speaker 14: where or people will leave a place because they think

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Speaker 14: you are. I think that mentality is a big limiting factor.

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Speaker 14: How do you help encourage people even when they come

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Speaker 14: and they're excited to be here, but you recognize they

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Speaker 14: still got some Egypt on them. How do you get

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Speaker 14: them really to get over the fact that you know,

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Speaker 14: you left and that may have been good, but you

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I think what you're saying is true. It's just

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Speaker 4: a day at a time. Keep teaching them, keep encouraging them.

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Speaker 4: And you know you said it so beautifully. But knowing

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Speaker 4: that we are I like going back to that bay,

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Speaker 4: knowing that we are children of the Most High God,

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Speaker 4: that we are approved, that we are accepted, knowing that

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Speaker 4: we are loved, knowing that we are masterpieces. That's that

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Speaker 4: foundation for the next level thinking. So Stephen, thanks for

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Speaker 4: sharing that. Thanks for all of our great pastors here

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Speaker 4: and Victoria, Nick, and thank you guys for watching. Nick.

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Speaker 4: Can I see a copy of my book one more time?

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Speaker 4: God had you hearing this. So why don't you take

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