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Speaker 1: Welcome to Haunted Road, a production of iHeartRadio and Grimm

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Speaker 1: and Mild from Aaron Manky listener. Discretion is advised.

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Speaker 2: You might say that Birmingham, Alabama, was faded to become

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Speaker 2: a center of industry, a place made rich by manufacturing

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Speaker 2: products and shipping them across the globe. But all of

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Speaker 2: that prosperity came at a cost, a human cost. Birmingham

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Speaker 2: quickly became a center of iron production, but smelting all

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Speaker 2: that iron ore was a laborious job that was deathly dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Men sustained terrible injuries and were sometimes cooked alive from

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Speaker 2: exposure to the molten iron. And as racial inequity and

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Speaker 2: hostility toward Black Americans grew, the burden those men bore

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Speaker 2: became disproportionately more perilous. The sloss furnaces contained the ghosts

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Speaker 2: of some of the darkest moments in Birmingham history. And

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Speaker 2: it's all still there today, being relived by those who

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Speaker 2: won't or can't leave it behind. I'm Amy Bruney, and

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Speaker 2: this is Haunted Road. When Birmingham was founded in eighteen

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Speaker 2: seventy one, its planners envisioned a rich future in an

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Speaker 2: Appalachian Valley in north central Alabama. The city sat at

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Speaker 2: the crossroads of two railroad lines on one of the

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Speaker 2: world's richest mineral Deposits hopes to establish a town with

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Speaker 2: considerable industry were so high that investors in the Ellaton

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Speaker 2: Land Company, the founding company of the city, named it

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Speaker 2: after Birmingham, England, the epicenter of the iron industry in

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Speaker 2: the UK. The plan worked thanks in large part to

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Speaker 2: Sloss Furnaces, a processing plant that extracted iron from rocks

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Speaker 2: by superheating the iron ore, converting it into liquid iron,

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Speaker 2: and cool it into a solid that was then sold

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Speaker 2: and used for countless purposes. Sloss Furnaces was built in

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Speaker 2: eighteen eighty one, named after Colonel James Withers Sloss, one

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Speaker 2: of Birmingham's founding fathers. Sloss played an important role in

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Speaker 2: the founding of the city because he convinced a major

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Speaker 2: railroad of the day to lay tracks through the fledgling town.

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Speaker 2: In its first year, Sloss Furnaces sold twenty four thousand

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Speaker 2: tons of iron. Along with other manufacturing plants, Sloss became

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Speaker 2: so profitable so rapidly that Birmingham became known as Magic City,

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Speaker 2: a nickname that came from the fact that the city

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Speaker 2: grew so quickly it seemed to be by magic. By

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Speaker 2: the mid eighteen eighties, Birmingham was a bona fide manufacturing hub.

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Speaker 2: Demand grew so quickly that its owners began construction on

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Speaker 2: a second furnace just a year after its opening. Combined,

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Speaker 2: the furnaces could produce over two hundred and fifty tons

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Speaker 2: of iron a day. Slas Furnaces National Historic Landmark describes

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Speaker 2: the physical structure sixty feet high and eighteen feet in diameter.

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Speaker 2: Sloss's new Whitwell stoves were the first of their type

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Speaker 2: ever built in Birmingham and were comparable to similar equipment

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Speaker 2: used in the North. Local observers were proud that much

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Speaker 2: of the machinery used by Slass's new furnaces would be

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Speaker 2: of Southern manufacture. It included two blowing engines and ten

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Speaker 2: boilers thirty feet long and forty six inches in diameter.

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Speaker 2: According to the podcast Homespun Haunts, pig iron, the main

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Speaker 2: product of the furnaces, gets its name from the shape

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Speaker 2: of the cooling trenches the workers would dump the molten

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Speaker 2: iron into cool These trenches looked like a sow feeding

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Speaker 2: piglets in eighteen eighty three, Sloss Furnaces won a bronze

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Speaker 2: medal for the best pig Iron at the Louisville Exhibition.

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Speaker 2: Iron was extracted in the two furnaces through a hot,

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Speaker 2: dangerous process. As the Slass Furnaces Tour describes, Iron ore, limestone, coke,

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Speaker 2: and hot air were continuously fed into the furnace, which

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Speaker 2: would reach temperatures of thirty eight hundred degrees. As the

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Speaker 2: materials moved down and hot air moved up in the furnace,

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Speaker 2: two products accumulated in the bottom or hearth, molten iron

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Speaker 2: and slag. The iron and slag were withdrawn or tapped

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Speaker 2: through two holes called notches. About every four hours, the

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Speaker 2: iron notch, located at the base of the furnace was opened,

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Speaker 2: In addition to the furnaces themselves, the plant contained many

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Speaker 2: more buildings, including ten boilers that would burn waste gas

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Speaker 2: created inside the furnace during the iron making process, and

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Speaker 2: a pyrometer house which contained the machines that measured temperature

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Speaker 2: in the furnaces. According to the Slass Furnaces Tour, this

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Speaker 2: seriously wrong with the furnace. This the use of the

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Speaker 2: saying the furnace would get mad at them and put

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Speaker 2: them in the doghouse. Those furnaces were powered by blowing engines.

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Speaker 2: As the tour describes, the blowing engines stand over thirty

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Speaker 2: a rate of about thirty revolutions per minute. Each engine

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Speaker 2: amount of noise. The decibel level would compare to that

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Speaker 2: of standing front row at a rock concert. Cast sheds

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Speaker 2: and then cooled into pigs. According to industrial archaeology, the

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Speaker 2: work of breaking and carrying the newly cast pigs was arduous, hot,

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Speaker 2: and dangerous. Workers wore wooden shoes in order to protect

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Speaker 2: furnaces didn't just generate significant income for Birmingham. Visiting them

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Speaker 2: was a pastime for locals. The road to the plant

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Speaker 2: the plant's workings at a safe distance. As Robin MacDonald

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Speaker 2: wrote in the Anniston Star, people gathered in the smoke,

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Speaker 2: the fumes, and the steam each night along the viaduct

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Speaker 2: nearby furnace mouths. Some brought their dates, some brought their children.

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Speaker 2: Some came on Sunday afternoon furnus party picnics. Other Southern

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Speaker 2: cities had undeniable segregation problems in racial tensions, but Birmingham

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Speaker 2: had a specially severe and distinct racial division. Martin Luther

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Speaker 2: King Junior once described Birmingham as the most segregated city

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Speaker 2: in America. By the mid twentieth century, Birmingham became notorious

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Speaker 2: for its segregation. This included a series of racially motivated bombings,

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Speaker 2: most famously the nineteen sixty three bombing of the Sixteenth

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Speaker 2: that year, during the Birmingham Campaign, a massive desegregation action,

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Speaker 2: the city's Public Safety Commissioner, Eugene bull Conner, oversaw the

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Speaker 2: use of extreme force against nonviolent protesters, generating worldwide outrage.

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Speaker 2: These protests were when Martin Luther King Junior was arrested

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Speaker 2: and wrote his famous letter from Birmingham jail. The manufacturing industry,

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Speaker 2: Workers at Sloss were required to keep everything separate. They

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Speaker 2: Alabama Humanities Alliance, between nineteen hundred and nineteen fifty, Slass

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Speaker 2: Furnaces maintained company houses throughout Birmingham's Industrial District. Sloss Quarters,

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Speaker 2: the forty eight houses adjacent to city Furnaces were designed

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Speaker 2: Until the nineteen thirties. While not a companied town in

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Speaker 2: iron and steel workforce was sixty five percent black, a

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Speaker 2: number that would climb to seventy five percent by nineteen ten.

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Speaker 2: Black employees were only offered the most perilous jobs in

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Speaker 2: air dangerous industry. Whites populated all the managerial and scientific

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Speaker 2: lower paying risk year rolls. There were various ways to

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Speaker 2: Tuck in eighteen ninety nine. In November eighteen eighty two,

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Speaker 2: less than a year after it opened. A horrific accident

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Speaker 2: took place at Sloss Furnaces. Two black workers, Alec King

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Speaker 2: described a truly nightmarish sight in an article headlined Another

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Speaker 2: Furnace Horror. The reporter wrote, after removing a quantity of

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Speaker 2: two living beings. The bodies were a ghastly and revolting sight.

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Speaker 2: The skulls were bleached white, The arms of both were

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Speaker 2: It was a scene that was indescribably horrible. The article

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Speaker 2: by jumping into nearby Alice furnace. In February eighteen ninety two,

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Speaker 2: The Times reported on another death at Sloss, this one

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Speaker 2: pig iron manufacturers, but owners were slow to update the

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Speaker 2: sometimes said to have taken place at Alice rather than Sloths,

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Speaker 2: that this deer still appears whence Sloss hosts events. While

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Speaker 2: Kevin Walden, who has spent a lot of time investigating

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Speaker 1: Us, Kevin, That's no problem. Thank you very much for

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Speaker 2: To start off by saying that Sloss Furnaces is clearly

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Speaker 2: They have kind of backed away from their ghosts and

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Speaker 2: Just know that there are very much ways to keep

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Speaker 2: So that being said, Kevin Slaus is wild. I have

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Speaker 1: We Slaus has just always kind of been there in

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Speaker 2: Right, but it always comes around right, full circle.

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Speaker 1: You know, we we were young and dumb, about sixteen

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Speaker 1: So we pull in and there's a security guard working

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Speaker 2: That's so interesting. So you did it the right way.

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Speaker 2: You actually had permission. I think that that happened sometimes.

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Speaker 2: You know, when I was in high school, I'm totally

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Speaker 1: Well, that being our first night ghost sunning, you know,

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00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: I think a lot of it was just us kind

428
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: of being paranoid, and you know, we're comparing it to

429
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: you know, movies in Hollywood and stuff like that, but

430
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 1: that doesn't take away from some of the crazy things

431
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: we did experience. That's where we learned the story.

432
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: Of slag right, which isn't necessarily true, but it's a

433
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: good story.

434
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: At the time, it was definitely true in our minds. Yeah,

435
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: we were walking around. We had this one kid in

436
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: our class that we'd never really talked to, but once

437
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: he found out where we're ghost sonny, he was like,

438
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, dude, I'm all in, let me go with you.

439
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: So he's walking around and he's got this audio recorder

440
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: and there's this big pipe next to him. He says, hey, man,

441
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 1: if he died in this pipe, let me know, and

442
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: he reaches his arm up in the pipe. Well, when

443
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: he pulls the recorder back out, he rewinds it hits play,

444
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: and this voice comes through right after he puts in

445
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: the pipe and it says creepy, but the way it

446
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: says it is also creepy, because it was.

447
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: Like creepy, Oh my gosh.

448
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: Yeah. And another thing that happened with the audio recorder,

449
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: my cousin Sean had set it down. We were going

450
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: to leave it in one little spot by itself for

451
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: about an hour, just come back and listen to it,

452
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 1: which you know as well as I do. Listening back

453
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: to all that audio is painstaking.

454
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 2: But it really is. That's why voice activated recorders are

455
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: my friend. Now.

456
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, but uh, he lays the recorder down and he says, Okay,

457
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: we're gonna leave this here for about an hour. We'll

458
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 1: come back and get it. So we walk off and

459
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: we get lost in there because Sloss is so huge

460
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: and there's so many twists and turns, and when we

461
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: finally find it, it was about an hour and a

462
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: half later. Well, he picks the recorder up. It stop

463
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: on it, he says, and cut. We go to a

464
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: Wanda back and I'm like, something's wrong with us. This

465
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: file isn't too long out here, so we can't play

466
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: on it. And it starts off with him saying, we're

467
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: gonna leave this recorder here. If anybody's here, let us know.

468
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: He sets it down. You hear this loud like whoosh

469
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 1: sound and then it goes directly into him saying and cut.

470
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: So to us, it's like something came up turn the

471
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: recorder off and when we were coming back to get it,

472
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: turned it back on.

473
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 2: I've had that happen before, and it's interesting. It's like, yeah,

474
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 2: we don't really want to talk to you. And I

475
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: mean at this time, they might have been having investigations

476
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: and you know, they start to get familiar with your

477
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 2: equipment and they're like, oh, this is that thing that

478
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: hears us click, it's turn it off. So not today,

479
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean I found that there. The spirits

480
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 2: kind of are They can either be very active or

481
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 2: sometimes just kind of shy.

482
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: I think we investigated there a total of seven times,

483
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: and most nights we'd have something happened, something crazy would happen.

484
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: I think there was only one night we went in

485
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: and the ghosts were like, man, we're tired of you guys,

486
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: get out of here.

487
00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: You know, did you have any experiences in that tunnel,

488
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 2: because I had a wild experience in the tunnel with

489
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: meat Loaf of all people, But did you have any

490
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 2: experiences in the tunnel.

491
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: We did have some strange things happening there. There was

492
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: one night there was four of us and we were

493
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: walking around. We go down into the tunnel. Well, as

494
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: we're walking along, we kind of split up. Two of

495
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: us go one way, two of us go the other.

496
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: And while we're standing there talking, all of a sudden,

497
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: from up above us, I hear what sounds like somebody

498
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: grabbing a metal chair and just sliding in across the

499
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: floor upstairs. M So me hostatly run towards it. I

500
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: go up there, don't see anything out of the ordinary.

501
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: But when I'm watching our footage back as we're going

502
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 1: down into the tunnel, there's two middle chairs sitting to

503
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,959
Speaker 1: the side of the staircase. But when we come back up,

504
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: there's only one chair sitting there, and there was nobody

505
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: else there but us that night.

506
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: That's wild. So that's the kind of thing when that happens,

507
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: like your whole body just kind of goes ooh okay, yeah,

508
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: you know, in that tunnel. So that was actually one

509
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: of the first places that I had a really good

510
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: experience with the laser grid. And so I was investigating

511
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: in the tunnel with Adam Barry and meet Loaf. Meatloaf

512
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: was a massive paranormal fan, and so I got to

513
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: investigate with him if times, and he just was like

514
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 2: very gung how he loved he loved it, and so

515
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: He sat in that tunnel with Adam and myself and

516
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: we had used the laser grid. We kind of aimed

517
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 2: it all the way down the tunnel and we watched

518
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 2: as a shadow kept kind of peeking out. And the

519
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: thing with the laser grid is when a shadow walks

520
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: into it, like a shadow figure, the little points just

521
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 2: disappear and you see the outline of a person. It's

522
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: not like they're reflecting, like if I stand in it,

523
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 2: I just have lasers all over me. But when a

524
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 2: shadow figure pops into it, like you see an outline

525
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: of them. And that was the first time I really

526
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: saw that. And Meat Love kept calling out to him

527
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: or Meat he liked to be called Meat, but he

528
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: kept calling out to this spirit and it would get

529
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 2: a little bit closer, its getting a little more comfortable,

530
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: and I swear we sat it felt like an hour

531
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: or two. We sat there because Meat did not want

532
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 2: to leave. We were just like watching this shadow go

533
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:05,479
Speaker 2: back and forth. And yeah, it just seemed like someone

534
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: kind of shy and like not sure of us. That

535
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 2: was a really crazy experience.

536
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: Was that on the side next to the big machine

537
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: or the side with the staircase going up.

538
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 2: I think it was the side with the big machine,

539
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 2: if I remember correctly. So, I mean it's been a

540
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: long time, so.

541
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: We ha'ds something similar. We didn't have the laser grid,

542
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: but we were down there one not I think it

543
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: might have been our second or third time there, and

544
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 1: we were on one end. I think we were on

545
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: the staircase side where it just goes right back up

546
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: into the main room up there, and it was real

547
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: dark back towards the machine. And my cousin Sean pointed

548
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: out first. He was like, I thought there's something looking

549
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: at us from behind that big machine. M hm. So

550
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: I looked down that way, and sure enough you could

551
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: see something just kind of poking its head around the machine,

552
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: looking at us. They go back over, come run the side,

553
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: peek at us. So I walk down that way, I

554
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,959
Speaker 1: get to the machine. You can actually squeeze past that

555
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: machine and the tunnel continues on for miles back that way.

556
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't know.

557
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: That, And sure enough there was nothing back there. But

558
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: when I came back out and met back up with him,

559
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: I'll look back and you could see it again. This

560
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 1: thing just it's like I was watching us, just studying us,

561
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: you know.

562
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I felt like when we tried to get closer,

563
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: it would kind of back off, and so we just

564
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 2: kept our distance. And I swear I think Meat even

565
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: thought he knew his name, like he really felt as

566
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 2: though he was a conduit for the paranormal and that

567
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: he had like that he was psychic and he was

568
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 2: calling out to him. Gosh, I can't remember what it was,

569
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: but side note later on. So he had a really

570
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 2: good time investigating with Adam and me, And so at

571
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: the end of the night there, it was like three

572
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 2: thirty in the morning and we're doing one last run

573
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 2: way back like by the boiler room or something, and

574
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 2: our producer told us, he's like, don't tell meat Loaf

575
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 2: that you're still investigating. He's like, we need to start

576
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 2: wrapping up, and so don't tell him. And we're like okay,

577
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: So we quietly, we literally like were sneaking to the

578
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: boiler room so he wouldn't know, and we are doing

579
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 2: an EVP session. All of a sudden, the producer comes

580
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: around the corner and he's like, meat, little sound out

581
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 2: where you are. He thinks he's being funny. He's gonna

582
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: come scare you right now, so like and so he

583
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: comes barreling around the corner. He doesn't even have a

584
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 2: camera operator with him, and he's just like Boo Amy

585
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: and Adam and then so we literally had to sit

586
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 2: there and investigate with him until this sun was coming up.

587
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: The crew went into overtime. It was just so it

588
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 2: was the funniest So yeah, fun stories. But now, over

589
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 2: the time that you investigated there, what would you say

590
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 2: was like your most frightening experience.

591
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: Uh, definitely the most frightening. I think it was our filth.

592
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: There's a time there we decided we're going to start

593
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 1: doing you know, kind of isolation sessions around the planet.

594
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: So I decide I'll be enough. I was gonna go

595
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: down to the boiler room. So I make my way

596
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 1: down there. And this is way back when I had

597
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: that brick, no Kia phone. You know, we didn't have

598
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 1: the cell phones with the lights on or anything. So

599
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna leave my phone with you

600
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 1: guys because it creates this interference on the camera, So

601
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: leave that behind. The only light I had was on

602
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: my camera itself. So I make my way down into

603
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: the boiler room and I'm sitting there and I'm waiting.

604
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: I keep hearing things, you know, kind of off from

605
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: the distance. I'm thinking, maybe it's just the guys walking

606
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: around messing with me or something. Well, I'll pull up

607
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: audio recorder. I start recording, you know, if anybody's here,

608
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: give me a sign. And all of a sudden, it

609
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: just felt so different in there, like this heaviness just

610
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: set in. Well, all of a sudden, my audio recorder

611
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: just dies on me, and I'm like, okay, that's strange.

612
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 1: When they say no, my camera dies on me. So

613
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: I'm down there in pitch black, I can't see anything

614
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: at all, and all of a sudden, something slaps me

615
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: full force across the face. Oh no, yeah, And you know,

616
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: I'm sitting there in the dark, something slapping me, and

617
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm just like, well, this is it. I've had a

618
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: good run, I guess. So the only thing I can

619
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: think to say is you know, I'm sorry. And I

620
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: start feeling my way out of the boiler room. I

621
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: had to work my way up the staircase, and when

622
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: I reached the top of the staircase, I go and

623
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: I find the other guys, and before I can even

624
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: tell them, I got slapped in the face. So, like,

625
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, what happened? To you what happened to your face?

626
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: I had a handprint across my face and they took

627
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: some pictures of it. But what was strange about it

628
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: was if you go to touching, you know, espely when

629
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: you get slapped for it be kind of warm. When

630
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: they went to touch it was actually ice cold. And yeah.

631
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: The only thing I can relate that to would be

632
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: you know, a foreman come in seeing me sitting there

633
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 1: doing nothing and being like, hey, get back to work.

634
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 2: P yeah, or just like we don't want you here,

635
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 2: you know that's I mean. So those are the kind

636
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: of experiences what people say is investigating dangerous overall. No,

637
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: even getting slapped by a ghost, which I've been shoved, pushed, whatever, scratched.

638
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 2: It's the reaction that you have, like thankfully you calmly

639
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,959
Speaker 2: were like I'm sorry, and you left. But a lot

640
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: of people would run in the dark, probably run into

641
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 2: some sort of large metal object and fall down some stairs,

642
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: like because it's your instinct when that happens is flight.

643
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: Your body is like nope out. And then the other

644
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 2: lesson there, Kevin, is you always have a backup light always. No,

645
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 2: I've learned that lesson to that happened to us that

646
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 2: this is somewhere else. We're here as a mine of

647
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 2: all places. And the power went out when we were

648
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 2: under the ground, and I was like, oh my god,

649
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: worst nightmare. And I just had my phone light and

650
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 2: I was like, God, what happens if this doesn't work?

651
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: True?

652
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 2: Well that I mean that honestly though, that is scary

653
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: and that is a message, you know, So it's really interesting.

654
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: Now.

655
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 2: What would you say is like, maybe this is kind

656
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 2: of the most common activity that people experience there.

657
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: Uh, definitely, you know, walking into a room, just filling

658
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: those unseen eyes on you and walking into cold spots.

659
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: I took my cousin there. She wanted to do a

660
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: report for school about my report for school, and you know,

661
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: I took her there. She'd never been there before. And

662
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:39,959
Speaker 1: as soon as I walked into a room, I felt

663
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: the hairs on my arm starting to stand up. And

664
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: before I could say anything, she was like, man, I'm cold,

665
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: my hair on my arm is standing up. And just

666
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 1: hearing footsteps, a lot of footsteps, sounds of people still working.

667
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: That was one of the main things we've caught back

668
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: in the day, was s only somebody hammering something or

669
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's a little along those lines.

670
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, I feel like there's a lot of residual

671
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,920
Speaker 2: energy there just in general. You can definitely feel that,

672
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 2: and you're right, And I think that's one of the

673
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 2: things within investigating is to kind of listen to your body,

674
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 2: you know, what you're feeling, because that's usually a clue

675
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 2: that something could potentially be about to go down, like

676
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: if you you know, you start having that kind of

677
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 2: like hair on the back of your neck standing up,

678
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: or like feeling of being watched. Like there's a reason

679
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 2: why we feel that way. That's instinct and I definitely

680
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 2: experienced that there. So now, is there a place there

681
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: that you find Obviously the boiler room is high up,

682
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: but is there are there certain areas that you would

683
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: consider hot spots for people who are investigating.

684
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: Oh, definitely say the boiler room, and definitely the tunnel.

685
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: I feel like we got the most activity there, and

686
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: there used to be a boardwalk heading towards the tunnel.

687
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: I think they've cemented that in now to kind of

688
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,400
Speaker 1: make it more of a regular like sidewalk tad, but

689
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: we'd hear all kind of stuff there. That first night

690
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 1: we went, it was middle of summer. Cricket's chirping like crazy,

691
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,720
Speaker 1: and that guy that went with us, that we didn't

692
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:16,240
Speaker 1: really know, he decided to start kind of provoking. And

693
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: for me, I've never really wanted to try provoking. It's

694
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: not really my thing, you know. But he starts just

695
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: calling it out. He's come on, I show yourself. We're

696
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,319
Speaker 1: not scared to you do something. Do something. And all

697
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: of a sudden, just every single sound around us just disappeared,

698
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: like the crickets stopped. He couldn't hear any cars or anything,

699
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: and this cold gust wind blew in, and I remember

700
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: looking at my cousin Sean, I'm just like, well, we're

701
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: in a horror movie situation now. I think right after that,

702
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: we were walking along and I've got some video of

703
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: this up on my YouTube channel. We're walking along and

704
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm panning towards one of the roofs of the one

705
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: of the buildings, and you see this figure standing on

706
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: top of it. Well, as we get a little bit closer,

707
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,720
Speaker 1: this figure just kind of sinks into the building.

708
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 2: Wiles.

709
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't like jump off or anything like that.

710
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: It just kind of sinks into the building.

711
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 2: That's really I actually, I do remember them mentioning that

712
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: people see figures up on like the catwalks and stuff

713
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: a lot, or like you know, walking in areas that

714
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: you definitely do not have access to, and even that

715
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,479
Speaker 2: it's happened like during the day before too, where people

716
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 2: are just there touring and they're like, who's that and

717
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: you know there's not there's no live person in that area.

718
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 2: So where were you when you had the experience where

719
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 2: your friend started like trying to provoke? Was that outside?

720
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: Uh? Yes, that was outside on the board walk there.

721
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 2: Oh, that's right, you did mention that. So because I

722
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 2: had a really strange experience outside, I cannot remember if

723
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,319
Speaker 2: this was on camera or not. You know, it kind

724
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 2: of all melds together. But I was walking kind of

725
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 2: by where you go into the tunnel and there's it

726
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: was like a gravel kind of roadway and I was walking,

727
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 2: you know, step crunch, crunch, crunch, and I heard steps

728
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 2: behind me and I thought it was someone trying to

729
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: scare me, like on the crew or something. And I

730
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 2: was like, I stopped and turned around and there's no

731
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 2: one and I'm like okay, So I start walking and

732
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 2: I hear it again, crunch, crunch, crunched and I'm like okay,

733
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 2: and I stopped that time, and it kept getting closer

734
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 2: to me, and I was just like, okay, I'm just

735
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 2: gonna walk really fast. I probably started whistling. I've mentioned

736
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: this before, but I have this theory that if you're whistling,

737
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: nothing bad can happen to you. And so, yeah, and

738
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: so I do remember that, and it was it was outside,

739
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,359
Speaker 2: so I mean, obviously hants don't just stay indoors, but

740
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: it was that was a pretty wild experience. Okay, so

741
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: we have hot spots now. So you said you've investigated

742
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 2: there seven plus times. Does it sound like it does

743
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 2: seem like you've ever encountered like the same spirit more

744
00:42:59,040 --> 00:42:59,479
Speaker 2: than once.

745
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: I would say, so that figure I was telling you

746
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: about down in the tone that we kind of peek

747
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 1: around the corner and watch us. I feel like we've

748
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: seen it two to three more times just around the

749
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: facility itself. One of those we're actually kind of in

750
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 1: the same place you were just talking about. And there's

751
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: like these little inlets that go in between like some

752
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: of the boilers there. Well, we were walking along and

753
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: I happen to look towards one of them, and same deal.

754
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: I see this thing kind of standing there, peeking around

755
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,400
Speaker 1: the corner, watching us go over there, and it's nothing.

756
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 1: So I just I feel like maybe there's at least

757
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: one spirit there that's kind of like, let me see

758
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: what's going on here, you know, got us out or something.

759
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, now, what is your overall vibe there? Do you

760
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: feel like these spirits are intelligent and interactive or do

761
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 2: you think that it's mostly residual type activity.

762
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: Weird enough, I feel like there's sort of a mixture

763
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: of both. I feel like the majority is definitely residual,

764
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 1: just from the sounds and you know, people work and

765
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: all that stuff, people seeing people up on the furnaces,

766
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: you know, quote unquote working. But then you get those that,

767
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 1: like I said, they'll be watching you or when I

768
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 1: got slapped, that's definitely someone intelligent. So I feel like

769
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: it's a good mixture of both. Right.

770
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, I'm really hoping we can get back

771
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 2: in there in an investigative fashion soon enough. But yeah,

772
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: now I find it super interesting. I'm glad you got

773
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: to investigate it so many times. It was one of

774
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 2: my favorite places to investigate, so it's kind of kind

775
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: of revisit it Now, you mentioned you have a YouTube channel.

776
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: Do you want to tell people where they can find

777
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: that and see some of your work.

778
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: Sure, it's it's on YouTube. The channel's called Alabama's Most

779
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: Haunted and basically we go out to some of the

780
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 1: most haunted places in Alabama once we get permission of courts.

781
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 1: I always remember that. Yeah, it's just Alabima's Most Haunted.

782
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: I think we've got about nine full length episodes up now,

783
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 1: and you know, we got a couple of little previews, trailers,

784
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: behind the scenes stuff. But there's a lot of haunted

785
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: places in Alabama that people just don't know about. You

786
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: got this Loss, which is famous for its hauntings, but

787
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: there's also so many other places that are just kind

788
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: of under the radar. Yeah, and kind of touching back

789
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: on what you saidwhere for us started, you know, it

790
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: was Loss not really wanting that kind of publicity anymore.

791
00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: You know this, Several places will contact for the show

792
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 1: and they're like, I'm sorry, we don't want we don't

793
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: want to be affiliated with that kind of thing. We

794
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: don't want that kind of image.

795
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it comes from a place of misunderstanding.

796
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 2: I think that there have been so many instances of

797
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 2: people going in and kind of disrespectfully handling a hunt,

798
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 2: and I think that at that point, you know, and

799
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: I can't blame them. A lot of these historical locations

800
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: are just like we don't even want to deal with this,

801
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: like this is. But I've worked with a lot of

802
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: places kind of hand in hand and helped them and

803
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,359
Speaker 2: educated on like how to do these in a way

804
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: where it's a win win for everyone. And so, like

805
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: I said before, if anyone's listening and you want to

806
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 2: know how to do it, like, just feel free to

807
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: reach out to it. I love helping, and so if

808
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: there's any of those places you're trying to reach out

809
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 2: to and you want to send them my way, go

810
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 2: for it, because I think it's important. You know, it's

811
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: not just important for what we do, but like, what

812
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: about the ghosts. I think about that, What about the ghosts?

813
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 2: You know, Like I think about lost ghosts where everybody

814
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: was there talking to them all the time and suddenly

815
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 2: there's no one. They're probably they got used to the

816
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 2: attention now they're like hello, I do yeah. So but anyways,

817
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 2: I really thank you for taking the time. It's been fascinating,

818
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,439
Speaker 2: and you know, hopefully our paths will cross in person soon.

819
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 1: It sounds great. I look forward to it.

820
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 2: While in many ways loss Furnaces highlights a tragic part

821
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: of our history, it also stands a reminder of how

822
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: important it is we don't forget that history. Ghosts or not.

823
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: It's a very compelling place to visit it and I

824
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 2: highly recommend you do so if you ever find yourself

825
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 2: near Birmingham. I feel lucky to have investigated there when

826
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 2: I did, and I do so hope the ghosts have

827
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 2: found a way to reach out to others since, because,

828
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 2: as we all know, even if you avoid acknowledging a haunting,

829
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean the ghosts go away. I'm Amy Brune

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