WEBVTT - How Search and Rescue Works 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:05.360 Hello, Atlanta and Georgia and surrounding states and heck the world. 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:11.040 We are doing our first ever live Christmas show, yeah, 0:00:11.080 --> 0:00:14.440 in our hometown this December, Ring Ring Ring, Ring, Ring Ring. 0:00:14.640 --> 0:00:17.119 It is stuff you should know. So what can people expect, 0:00:17.320 --> 0:00:21.360 so Chuck, they can expect all the glorious nous of 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:24.200 all of our Christmas specials that we do every year, 0:00:24.320 --> 0:00:28.080 but live on stage and with spiked eggnog. Yeah, we're 0:00:28.080 --> 0:00:29.720 just gonna sit up on stage and play all those 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:33.240 shows on a tape requarter like great, this one was great. 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.080 Do you guys remember this? 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I'm Josh Clark, There's Charles w Chuck Bryant, 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:57.480 and wait for it, there is first time ever guest 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:01.480 producer Dylan First on first time. I confirmed it with him. 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:04.600 He's nodding. He said, we're the only show here that 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:08.320 he hasn't guested as a producer on. So the band 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:11.400 has been lifted finally. I don't know if it was 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.680 it was his band. They finally warmed down. But you know, 0:02:15.720 --> 0:02:19.560 he's the regular producer on Afro Punk Solution Sessions, Yes, 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:23.919 which is pretty awesome podcast hosted by our pals Eve 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:27.600 Jeff Cote and I didn't pronounce the s on Eves 0:02:27.639 --> 0:02:31.600 but it's Eaves and verified this and bridget Todd from 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:37.960 stuff Mom never told you bridgets Todd. But they do um. 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:40.800 They kind of present like you know, afro punk, like 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:44.960 the tour, the Musical Tour, the Awesome Musical Tour. Um. 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:48.120 They have like a side thing called Solution Sessions and 0:02:48.160 --> 0:02:53.520 it's kind of like um Ted Talks, but for um 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:58.680 so first for significant things that get overlooked generally, so 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.959 like race centric stuff, reproductive rights or things like that. 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:05.520 It's pretty awesome. It's good and you can get it anywhere. 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:08.480 Yeah yeah, look at that. Well we gotta pay him somehow. 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:14.200 I was just gonna slide him my half warm sparkling 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.639 water as payment. No, I've got a cold one here. 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:20.720 Oh yeah yeah, how do you get those out of 0:03:20.760 --> 0:03:25.600 the fridge? So chuck um before we get started again. 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:29.200 A couple other things. There are two episodes in here 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.760 that I want to do separately. Okay, h a bit, 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:37.440 I can guess them Civil Air Patrol, know what? Sure, 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:39.320 But that wasn't one of them. Well that was one 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:41.760 of mine. Okay, so there's three and this is a 0:03:41.800 --> 0:03:45.720 media episode. What's the other one? Then? I don't know oh, 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:49.000 you know it scuba or we already did Scuba Cat? 0:03:49.560 --> 0:03:51.960 We did? I forgot about him. Did you interview the 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:55.080 guy who who made Scuba Cat swim around? Yeah? And 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.160 it's funny. We often mentioned Jackhammers is our worst show ever. 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:01.400 I forgot it's Scuba Cat? Is it? You go back 0:04:01.440 --> 0:04:04.520 and listen. No, but it's got to be the worst, right, 0:04:04.680 --> 0:04:07.120 we'll have to have like a listening party. That was 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:09.520 like not even a thing. We'll listen to Jack Hammerson 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:11.800 Scuba Cat. It was, well, it was the thing. It 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:13.880 was that one cat. Yeah, and I guess we can 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:16.160 just come out and say now that Discovery Channel made 0:04:16.200 --> 0:04:18.240 us do that. That's like kind of one of the 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:21.960 only times we were steamrolled. That's funny. Otherwise we have autonomy. 0:04:22.040 --> 0:04:24.240 I don't know if that was being steamrolled as much 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.560 as Rick rolled. Well, now, I don't even know what 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:29.280 you're gonna pick it in, all right, I'll tell you then, 0:04:29.680 --> 0:04:34.440 No more suspense for you, um Coast Guard. No, I 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:36.560 don't feel like you know me at all anymore. I 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:41.920 don't search and rescue dogs. Oh they're like, dude, I 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:43.840 looked at the article. It's at least as big as 0:04:43.839 --> 0:04:46.440 this one all right, robust, and they don't have a 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:49.520 lot of overlap. It's not like doing recycling twice or 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.640 anything like that. And the other one is getting lost. 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:57.040 Oh well, that's esoteric, right right. I didn't expect you 0:04:57.120 --> 0:04:59.080 to guess the loss time. I thought you'd get searching 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:02.479 rescue dogs. But there's a whole psychology getting lost, and 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:04.960 this is about finding people. I want to talk about 0:05:04.960 --> 0:05:07.400 getting lost. Sometimes it's just too much to put onto 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:09.280 this one. So it's going to be its own episode, okay, 0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:15.600 and all your mark Civil Air Patrol because fellow network 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:21.599 host colleague John Roderick of omnibus is or was a 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:25.599 member of the Civil Air Patrol? Is he mary yet? No, no, no, 0:05:25.720 --> 0:05:29.359 because that'd be something like the flying Mayor of Seattle. 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:31.960 You'd love to be the flying but even still, remember 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:34.239 the Civil Air Patrol. It's pretty interesting. So he flies? 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:37.839 Uh did? I don't know if he's current, but Roderick is. 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.120 He has a very interesting pass. I'd be well, it's 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:41.800 an interesting It would be kind of fun to do 0:05:41.880 --> 0:05:44.560 Civil Air Patrol and pick his brain. Okay, let's do 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:49.000 his weird brain, alright, flying brain. So we have our 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:55.040 two organic show plugs in. Yeah, so we're talking today 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:59.360 about s search and rescue. I forgot I wrote this. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.320 You did write it back in like a million years ago. Yeah, 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.400 that's when I was. Um. I was so excited to 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:09.479 be the adventure writer. You wrote a bunch of adventure stuff, 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:13.160 and I was named adventure writer. Here's the funny part 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.160 of this story. I was named adventure writer. I was 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:18.760 really excited. Then, after a while of doing this stuff 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:24.760 before the podcast, I went into an unnamed boss I 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:27.480 know this story and said like, hey, man, I really 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.000 think that, Like I'm kind of wondering about the future 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:33.200 here and where where I could go and if I 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:35.080 could work my way up somehow to do things. And 0:06:35.160 --> 0:06:38.240 he he very politely, was like, I think this is 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:40.280 kind of the deal, and like there is not much 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:44.960 of the future here beyond writing these articles. And then 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:49.159 that same dude would change my life tossing a podcast 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:52.760 our way. That funny how things work out, It is hilarious. 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:56.159 No future here, right. I think he even put a 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:58.719 cigarette out in front of you. On my hand. It 0:06:58.839 --> 0:07:02.880 was really painful. So but a reminder. Still, but you 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:05.680 wrote some good stuff. The survival stuff is is good. 0:07:05.880 --> 0:07:08.760 We have more to to dig through. I appreciate it. 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.200 I was nervous going into when I saw this was 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:13.720 my article from back then. I was like, oh man, 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:17.040 this is gonna steak. But it was actually a decent article. 0:07:17.160 --> 0:07:20.080 It was It was an expansive article too. There's a 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.520 lot of stuff to it because there's a lot of 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.440 stuff to search and rescue. There's a lot of different 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:27.840 kinds of search and rescue, right, I mean, you know, 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:30.120 now I feel like the sham is up because you 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:32.520 already know all this stuff, so I can't tell you anything. 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:34.600 I guess I'll tell you guys who are listening to 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:37.280 the podcast. But there's a lot of different types of 0:07:37.280 --> 0:07:40.640 search and rescue. Right. There's urban search and rescue, which 0:07:40.640 --> 0:07:45.320 happens after say like like nine eleven. Yep. I've also 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:48.640 seen it us and are really yeah, it's a little 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:53.600 it is um. There's like marine or water rescue, which 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:55.320 is usually the one that kind of comes to mind 0:07:55.320 --> 0:07:57.680 when I think of like military rescue. But then there's 0:07:57.680 --> 0:08:00.960 like combat rescue, like the Scotto anything which will touch 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:04.600 on UM. And then there's like the normal search and 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:06.680 rescue I think a lot of people think of, which 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.320 is somebody getting lost in the woods or their desert 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.840 or something, and a bunch of sheriff's deputies kind of 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:15.920 spread out and start looking for you deputies and just people. Yes, 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.880 did you know that before you research this article, that 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:22.040 people like dedicate themselves to spend their own money to 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:25.119 up on training and equipment and things. Yeah. The reason 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.000 I know that is because, um my dad had a 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:32.240 touch of this um when he owned a jeep years ago, 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:35.040 and I told stories about him going out on snowy 0:08:35.120 --> 0:08:37.760 days and using his toe innch to pull people out 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:41.000 of ditches. So that was I was just aware of 0:08:41.040 --> 0:08:46.000 their being a general like thing with certain outdoors people 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:48.880 where there they had like they like to get in 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:52.440 in there and volunteer, and if they hear someone's trapped 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:55.600 in the woods near their house, they're out there. Like 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:59.800 I knew they existed, but there's like an actual pro 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:05.240 sess you can go through and become a registered like searcher. Yeah, 0:09:05.240 --> 0:09:06.840 And I think some of these people are just do 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.319 gooders and some of them maybe we're like man, I 0:09:10.480 --> 0:09:15.239 never was able to become the uh, the wilderness firefighter 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:18.720 that I wanted to be or the paramedic maybe, And 0:09:18.800 --> 0:09:20.719 so I'm going to get the state to force them 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:22.720 to hang out with me while we like this is 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:26.080 how can live out that unfulfilled? Uh I was about 0:09:26.080 --> 0:09:28.880 to say fantasy, but that means it unfulfilled, you know, 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:33.280 desire dream, all of them. And then there's the last 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:34.760 group of people who are like, I want to see 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:39.200 a dead body in the woods. They start joining star Man. 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.680 Don't get teamed up with that guy. It doesn't always 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:44.920 and that always the way, though it doesn't always work out, 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:49.160 is the thing. Sometimes search and rescue becomes searching recovery. Yeah, 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:52.120 but uh, I mean most of this applies to it 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:55.280 as well, because search and rescue typically starts out as 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:59.280 or searching recovery starts out as search and rescue. Right, 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.680 there's always it's kind of neat, like, if you think 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:06.960 about it, there's really no better quick sketch of humanity 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:10.080 than a group of people who have never met some 0:10:10.320 --> 0:10:13.640 the person they're looking for, take their time and effort 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.320 and put themselves in peril to go try to find 0:10:16.400 --> 0:10:20.360 somebody who's missing and starts out on the hopes that 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:23.040 they're still alive. Yeah, and that a lot of times 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:25.920 what we were talking about there is like the um 0:10:25.960 --> 0:10:28.319 someone was hiking and got lost, and these people kind 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:31.240 of regularly go out and do this. Uh. But then 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.600 the stuff that really gets me is like the Missing Child, 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:40.800 where entire communities come together to form you know, quarter 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:45.600 mile long lines walking through a field or the forest together. 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:48.120 That's the stuff. This is like, Man, I can't even 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:53.280 take it. Yeah, you know, way to bring it down, Chuck, Hey, 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:56.560 that's what I'm here. So uh so okay, so let's 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.120 start at the start. So, if you if you wanted 0:10:59.200 --> 0:11:03.719 to be a I don't. I guess there's a it's professional, right, 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:06.360 If you're in the Coastguard or in the military, and 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.960 you're trained for this, you're a professional search and rescue person, right. 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.960 It's not like you have your regular duty and then 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:16.319 on the side you get called out for star stuff. Well. 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:19.200 I don't know about that. I mean I think I 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:23.439 don't think that's necessarily the case. I think the Coast Guard, well, 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:25.200 we'll have to find that out. Actually it's I don't 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:29.720 think they're sitting around waiting on a rescue. Yeah. The 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:32.719 thing is is I saw that the Coastguard rescues in 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.160 average of a hundred and fourteen people a day, So 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:37.160 they're always just rescuing so I wonder if they have 0:11:37.360 --> 0:11:39.400 like they're just yeah, that's what they do, is some 0:11:39.559 --> 0:11:42.840 there's their search and rescue. People are searching and rescuing 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:45.000 all day every day. I don't know. I'm stimmied right 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:48.560 out of the gate. Sorry, man, But we'll we'll start 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.880 with the Coast Guard because they're actually the heart of 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:53.160 search and rescue. They've been doing this for at least 0:11:53.160 --> 0:11:56.360 fifty years now. Yeah. I mean, there's a school in Yorktown, 0:11:56.800 --> 0:12:01.560 Virginia called the National Star School, and it's operated by 0:12:01.559 --> 0:12:04.080 the Air Force and the Coast Guard. And their motto 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:08.680 is really great, always ready comma that others may live. 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:12.360 And I believe a couple of years ago they celebrated 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:18.200 their fiftieth anniversary. Is a school, yeah, because when I 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.160 wrote this, I believe it was the anniversary. Yea, the 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:22.920 most recent. This thing is so old. You were talking 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:26.720 about a change that Noel was undertaking in two thousand nine. 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:31.280 In future tents like nine comes around. If it does, 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:37.000 the gray beard hairs are really showing. Uh. So they 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.240 have three simultaneous classes of students going on at this 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:44.200 our school at all times, and their goal is a 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:49.560 program is uh to say at least of people and 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:54.000 of property that's at risk. Pretty good goal. Yeah, And 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:57.040 to be ready to be there and ready, I believe 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:00.240 within two hours total response time and to be like 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.360 ready to go within a half hour. Right, so like 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.800 the moment they're activated to the moment they show up 0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:08.040 on seeing two hours tops pretty good. Yeah, that's great. 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:16.160 And then imagine like rescuing. Let's split the difference. At 0:13:16.200 --> 0:13:19.120 first it was and they're like that's shooting a little 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:23.280 high exactly, but nineties not enough? Yeah, and being uh, 0:13:23.679 --> 0:13:26.679 you know, going through the test and the physical and 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.840 mental testing for this is tough. Yeah. So when I 0:13:30.880 --> 0:13:33.400 was researching this initially, I was thinking like, oh, this 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:36.000 is cool or whatever, but I've actually come to admire 0:13:36.120 --> 0:13:40.120 anybody who does this, not just because they're out doing this, 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:41.760 but there's a lot of things that they're doing that 0:13:41.840 --> 0:13:46.280 I can't. And now we've really entered that thicket, which 0:13:46.320 --> 0:13:50.760 is like, um, the rescue swimmers test. And so so 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:55.200 the whole thing starts out with pull ups, which right there, 0:13:55.360 --> 0:13:59.800 I'm done. I'll give you three tops, maybe fifteen chin ups? 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.440 Aren't they the same thing? There? Do you put like 0:14:03.480 --> 0:14:05.520 the chin on the bar and a chin up it's different. 0:14:05.640 --> 0:14:09.520 Chin ups are knuckles facing you pull ups or knuckles 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:13.760 facing out, So chin up pull up pull ups are harder. 0:14:14.120 --> 0:14:17.160 Yeah either way, maybe three tops because chin ups you 0:14:17.200 --> 0:14:21.040 can you know, kick and swing yourself up. But a 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:24.240 pull up, especially if you do the Studley arms apart 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.000 pull up like that number. Yeah, No, mine are like 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:31.200 right under my face. Yeah. So, um, you got twenty 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.800 five of those, followed by a hundred yard obstacle course. 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:37.640 I'm assuming it's a pretty rough obstacle course. I haven't 0:14:37.640 --> 0:14:40.160 seen pictures of it. Yeah, and this is while you're 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:43.800 carrying two fifty pound dumbbells. Again, have you ever picked 0:14:43.880 --> 0:14:47.840 up a fifty pound dumbell? Just once? It's not comfortable, 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:49.960 Never do it again, and you especially don't want to 0:14:49.960 --> 0:14:52.400 do it while you're doing it obstacle course that's the 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:55.640 size of a football field, right. Uh So then you're 0:14:55.680 --> 0:15:01.000 timed while you march one mile and you think big deal. 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.120 This is after you've already done these other things though, 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:06.640 and you're carrying a forty pound rescued letter, which is 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.880 it's called the Stokes basket too. It's a it's that 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:13.280 caged stretcher that you see so often on the news 0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:17.800 and in the Perfect Storm. I like that movie. It's 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.120 a great movie. I don't know about great, but it's 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:24.200 a good movie. That's good enough. You convinced me. Uh. 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:28.920 And then it's still not over because then you get 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.520 into your rescue harness. You put on your fins and 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.080 your snorkel, and you swim a third of a mile 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:38.200 pulling a victim in one of these rescue letters. You 0:15:38.240 --> 0:15:40.120 swim a third of a mile to the victim, and 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:44.120 then another third of a mile. You gotta do all 0:15:44.120 --> 0:15:45.960 that in twenty seven minutes. And I think this is 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:47.880 after you know, it's not like they're like, all right, 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.040 we'll go rest a few hours and then you'll do 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:53.720 this next part. Plus they make they make you chug 0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:57.880 a cup of pancake batter at every stop. And so 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:03.640 that's just the swimming art. Uh. There's also the inland training, 0:16:03.640 --> 0:16:05.600 which you gotta learn to climb rocks, you gotta learn 0:16:05.680 --> 0:16:09.040 to repel. Uh. There's a hundred and eighty pound dummy 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:11.840 that they like tangle up in a tree fifty six 0:16:12.040 --> 0:16:14.040 ft in the air to get it. Yeah, you gotta 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.720 figure that out. Sometimes they have combo scenarios like this 0:16:17.840 --> 0:16:20.120 dude's in the tree. This dude's in the water, Like, 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:22.880 go figure it out and don't use rocks to get 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:27.320 the one out of the tree. No, it doesn't count never. So, Um, 0:16:27.360 --> 0:16:30.760 that's pretty that's the Coastguard, and I think the Air Force, 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:33.200 um go in for that same academy, or maybe all 0:16:33.240 --> 0:16:35.880 members of the military go to the Coastguard one. I 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:39.840 believe yes, so that if you're a military search and 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:43.960 rescue person, you train at the Coastguard academy for it, right, right, 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:46.480 if you're just a normal everyday person and you want 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.960 to do it. There are our schools around the country, 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:54.560 but they're all private. There's no accreditation. Um. I think 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.480 it's probably buy or beware in some of those cases, 0:16:58.520 --> 0:17:01.400 but I also got the impression that there's actual legitimate 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:03.680 like s our schools. It's not just somebody who's like 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.000 thanks for the money, chump, buy or beware as opposed 0:17:06.000 --> 0:17:10.160 to full guaranteed or your money back, right you will 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.040 find your first person or all your your tuition is 0:17:13.040 --> 0:17:17.600 is reimbursed. Uh. And then some of these folks ride horses. 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.679 It's called mounted star and horses. Even though it's an 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:26.400 age old way of getting around or really valuable um 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:30.240 in search and rescue for quite a few reasons. Yeah. Like, 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.160 first of all, their horses, so I can go farther 0:17:34.240 --> 0:17:37.280 than your dumb human meat body. Sure. Plus they're nice 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:39.639 to have around as well. They're nice to have around, 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:43.320 and they can get you to places where you could 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:45.399 kind of walk, but you probably shouldn't be walking. A 0:17:45.440 --> 0:17:48.320 horse might be a little more sure footed or a donkey. 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:52.280 Uh yeah, and um yeah, I like how you said, 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.479 if you've been sitting in the lab analyzing stuff for 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:58.520 the last few years, you might benefit from riding a 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.240 horse out to a search of riscue you location. Yeah, 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.360 I mean that's a movie seen waiting to happen, if 0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:08.720 it hasn't already. It is. Um Wayne Night just griping 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:11.439 all mad that he's being dragged out into the woods, right, 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:13.440 but then they put him on the horse. He's backwards 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:16.920 on the horse. Somebody stop this thing. Uh. The other 0:18:16.960 --> 0:18:18.920 thing you can do, obviously, the horse is a lot 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.400 stronger than a person. So if you need a rescue 0:18:22.480 --> 0:18:25.639 leader towed up the side or you know, pulled up 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:27.159 the side of a cliff, you can attach it to 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:29.640 a horse and then then you're gonna tell him about 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:31.720 the radio thing. I never thought of this. It's good. 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:35.639 Go ahead. So you can station horses in position along 0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.040 a route when you get further and further into the woods. 0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:40.800 And if you keep a radio transmitter on each one, 0:18:40.960 --> 0:18:44.560 it acts as like a radio relay network. Just install 0:18:44.640 --> 0:18:49.320 a bluetooth into a horse's ear, tin horses ears and 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:52.840 you've got coms. Not bad, It isn't bad at all. 0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:56.600 I feel like we should take a break. All right, 0:18:56.680 --> 0:18:59.000 let's do that and we'll talk about urban SAR right 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:23.840 after this. All right, ma'am. So we're talking about you 0:19:24.040 --> 0:19:28.120 sare or US and R yes, depending on who you're 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:32.119 talking to. This is um. This is a whole different 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:36.440 type of fish settle of fish um. When you're talking 0:19:36.440 --> 0:19:40.040 about urban starro is not woods. It's not like cliffs, 0:19:40.240 --> 0:19:44.520 it's not the ocean. It is enormous skyscrapers that have 0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:47.359 crumbled in on themselves and there you're sure that there 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:50.200 are people trapped inside and you have to figure out 0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:53.560 how to get into these this rubble and get them 0:19:53.560 --> 0:19:57.000 out without getting killed yourself. Yeah, and this is a 0:19:57.040 --> 0:20:00.920 division of FEMA. UM probably should come no surprise and 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:05.560 believe in n is when they set this up. The 0:20:05.640 --> 0:20:09.200 National Response plan for disasters and they have twenty five 0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:13.080 national use AR task forces and in the case of 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:20.520 a flood or earthquake, what else hurricane, plane crash, has met, spills, tornadoes, 0:20:20.640 --> 0:20:26.080 any natural disaster, a terrorist attack. Um, I think they 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:30.920 they They were all called out for the Oklahoma City bombing. UM, 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:36.679 definitely nine eleven, UM, Katrina. They were integral and UM 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:38.840 some of the bigger ones that you can list off. 0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:42.240 Basically every single one of these task forces was called 0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:46.240 in to the to to assist. Yeah, and assist is 0:20:46.240 --> 0:20:51.119 the key word there, because they are supporting UH local 0:20:51.160 --> 0:20:54.439 and state emergency systems who generally take the lead in 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:59.159 these cases. Thirty one people I think per team for 0:20:59.200 --> 0:21:03.480 a US OUR task force. And how many did they deployed? 0:21:03.480 --> 0:21:07.399 Twenty of these on nine eleven, like right out of 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:10.320 the gate. Yeah, I think all of them except for 0:21:10.520 --> 0:21:15.320 Virginia was activated in Virginia's was at the Pentagon instead, 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:17.480 but like the rest of them were in New York 0:21:17.520 --> 0:21:19.680 for nine eleven. It was just I was reading a 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:25.080 in firsthand account from a Star Team member at nine 0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:27.400 eleven and they were just like it was this utter chaos, 0:21:27.760 --> 0:21:29.520 Like the people who were in charge were all dead 0:21:29.600 --> 0:21:33.160 when the second tower collapsed. Um, there was just like 0:21:34.200 --> 0:21:36.800 he said, there was just a total leadership vacuum that 0:21:36.880 --> 0:21:39.560 got filled pretty quickly. But I've never seen anything like 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.440 this before. It was nuts. But the just the way 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:46.320 that they had to improvise was pretty pretty astounding. Oh yeah, 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:49.560 And there's all sort of secondary dangers you know, after 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.720 a building like that collapses, the well, I mean, I 0:21:52.720 --> 0:21:54.720 guess we can talk about a little bit, but I 0:21:54.760 --> 0:22:00.000 mean everything from hazardous materials leaking to you know, electricity 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:02.560 down to electricity that could you know shock and kill 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:07.600 you too, water mains bursting and you know, filling up 0:22:07.680 --> 0:22:11.680 spaces and drowning people. It's like there every single front 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:14.119 you can imagine they're attacking. So one of the first 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:18.479 things they do. UM. Again, every every UM search and 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:23.280 rescue situation or every disaster is actually operated initially by 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:27.560 the local cops. That's who runs search and rescue, and 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:30.159 like you said, femas there to assist, and usually the 0:22:30.200 --> 0:22:33.240 state agencies are there to assist too. But UM, one 0:22:33.240 --> 0:22:36.240 of the first things that happens when femas UM you 0:22:36.359 --> 0:22:38.679 saw our teams come on the scene is they have 0:22:38.760 --> 0:22:43.840 like structural engineers who are licensed professional engineers who have 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:47.160 experience in construction or inspection or something like that, who 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:50.160 come in and say they look at this. So once 0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:53.119 this was a nice, tidy structure. Now it's a different 0:22:53.200 --> 0:22:56.000 kind of structure and it's not tidy at all, and 0:22:56.040 --> 0:22:58.399 there's a lot of hidden dangers. But their job is 0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:01.040 to come in and assess the the structure of the 0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:05.000 rubble and figure out how to create safe passage into 0:23:05.040 --> 0:23:08.080 this thing. And they it's pretty amazing that they can 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:10.880 do it at all. Yeah, and yeah, you mentioned the dogs, 0:23:11.080 --> 0:23:14.400