Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome to episode one, one four of the Bobby
Speaker 1: Cast one four Team for me is exciting because I'm
Speaker 1: a legitimate fan of Lucy Silva's her music first and
Speaker 1: her as a person's second. And we've been waiting to
Speaker 1: get her in for a while. And so we we
Speaker 1: talked about you're gonna hear we talk about she has
Speaker 1: a new record coming in August. Now you might hear
Speaker 1: this after August. But this is fun for me. Let
Speaker 1: me also say that a couple of things. One a
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Speaker 1: Kelley Henderson is a stylist. She does hair and makeup
Speaker 1: and then they call it grooming right yeah, for Dirk's
Speaker 1: and Al Deane and she stopping styles me for big
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Speaker 1: fashion styles, live styles, yeah, check out the Velvet's Edge podcast.
Speaker 1: Because also the guys from well, there's Christian Bush. We
Speaker 1: already mentioned that one or now okay, and there's the
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Speaker 1: I'm on the road. Come and watch me do stand
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Speaker 1: come out Otherwise, Here we go, Episode one fourteen with
Speaker 1: one of my favorite people. She's nicer than even she
Speaker 1: seems in this podcast, and she seems super nice in
Speaker 1: the podcast. Here is Lucy Silva's All right, Welcome to
Speaker 1: the Bobby Cast with Lucy Silva's I do think you're
Speaker 1: probably the most talked about guests overall. We've done over
Speaker 1: a hundred episodes, and forever it was I'm gonna wait
Speaker 1: and bring Lucy end because we know each other, and
Speaker 1: it's weird for me to interview and talk to someone
Speaker 1: that I know because you came toament Us early and
Speaker 1: we hung out downstairs. I'm always annoyingly early, me too
Speaker 1: uncomfortably for other people, are uncomfortably for other people, But
Speaker 1: I hating late. It was drummed into me as a
Speaker 1: kid to not be late, so I sort of go
Speaker 1: the other way and compensate too much. And well, what
Speaker 1: I do a lot of times did I get places
Speaker 1: and just sit in the parking lot. If there's more
Speaker 1: people do that, then they would admit I go and
Speaker 1: just because I don't ever want to miss the opportunity
Speaker 1: because of the easiest thing, which is being on time right.
Speaker 1: And there are people that absolutely miss opportunities because they're
Speaker 1: not on time right. So what I'll do is I
Speaker 1: will get somewhere obnoxiously early and then just sit in
Speaker 1: my car, just just sitting there. I mean channels. But
Speaker 1: when someone sees you doing that, then that's when you've
Speaker 1: got a problem. They're like looking out there's always a
Speaker 1: chance of looking out the window watching you just wait. Well,
Speaker 1: offensive a house, I'll park it like the gas station
Speaker 1: or a restaurant down and then I'll drive up right
Speaker 1: on time. That's a good ploy. Um. I actually I
Speaker 1: don't know the late thing. You know, I've always wondered
Speaker 1: I had. I used to live with a friend of
Speaker 1: mine that used to our traits were that we've eventually
Speaker 1: have one of those days where like, okay, let's have
Speaker 1: a truth session because we're getting annoyed with each other.
Speaker 1: Because when you live with someone for a long time,
Speaker 1: these things start to fester. And I said, why Ay
Speaker 1: was late for things like is it because you don't
Speaker 1: have a concept of time as to what ten minutes is?
Speaker 1: Or is it because you just don't like being told
Speaker 1: to be to do something? And she was like, it's
Speaker 1: a bit of both, and she said sometimes it's like
Speaker 1: it's a control thing. You want to control everything that
Speaker 1: you're doing. I was like, well, that's great, someone's sitting
Speaker 1: there waiting for you, and which is so annoying. It
Speaker 1: always feels like a lack of respect. I think so,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm disrespecting someone too. I'm not
Speaker 1: like I'm not respecting their time, and so like the
Speaker 1: whole around you. That's still a control thing, Like I
Speaker 1: want to control the fact that people feel like I'm dependable.
Speaker 1: That's true. I just yeah, well, you want to be reliable.
Speaker 1: You don't want to be like those people that if
Speaker 1: you're in need suddenly they'll be well, Lucy, we'll be here.
Speaker 1: Don't worry. In realites, you know, you want to be
Speaker 1: someone that's going to rush over that. I'm surprised you're
Speaker 1: not a really late person though, because you're so creative
Speaker 1: an artis Before we went on Lucy and I were
Speaker 1: talking about twenty minutes about you know, the cycle of music,
Speaker 1: just just generally, and I say, my mind, I have
Speaker 1: very a consumer based mind. You have very artist based mind.
Speaker 1: I have both. I really think. Well, we were talking
Speaker 1: like you want to create an album and let people
Speaker 1: live with it and love it, and and everyone does.
Speaker 1: But I'm talking about you know the Drake I called
Speaker 1: the Drake model where he's constantly feeding people songs one
Speaker 1: at a time, one at a time, one at a time,
Speaker 1: and then he'll put a record out right. And so
Speaker 1: we got into a truth session, even truth session, and
Speaker 1: you have too many of those. And most artists, like
Speaker 1: super creative artistry people what you are, You're late, You're
Speaker 1: one with earth. That's the only thing I'm not. I
Speaker 1: don't take the tree huggy approach to time, like I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just it's every it's ways you were
Speaker 1: brought up. My family are pretty laid back in lots
Speaker 1: of way is except for that, like if I wasn't,
Speaker 1: you know, come down for dinner at the right time,
Speaker 1: or I think my mom was to stress. She had
Speaker 1: a nine or five job. My dad worked this to
Speaker 1: get us to school. And I saw hell break loose
Speaker 1: every morning. It was total chaos. She's trying to get
Speaker 1: us to school on time. So when you see that
Speaker 1: amount of anxiety and panic all around you like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I gotta be on time, I've gotta be downstairs, gonna
Speaker 1: be ready. And I think it just stayed with me,
Speaker 1: you know, And and I can't. I guess I don't
Speaker 1: like I don't. I've gotten sort of more laid back
Speaker 1: about it, because when you're with huge groups of people
Speaker 1: all the time, or you're with big families, you know,
Speaker 1: you just have to sort of just go with the flow.
Speaker 1: And I've had to really learned to exhale and be like,
Speaker 1: it's fine, it'll be fine. Well, what's exciting for me
Speaker 1: is it like I'm a big fan of yours. And
Speaker 1: so I don't even know how we met. I think
Speaker 1: we met well after Lindsay, which azing she played. That's
Speaker 1: exactly what four hours in the street And that's when
Speaker 1: you had first heard about me, I think, because you
Speaker 1: and Charlie showed up yes together, Yeah, so I was
Speaker 1: dating Lindsay. Yeah, I love Charlie Worsham. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: were playing I said, wow, who was the girl that
Speaker 1: played because I was really kind That's what I was thinking,
Speaker 1: what whomember that was? It was? You said, has really
Speaker 1: kind of her to come out and play, let me
Speaker 1: listen to her music. And then I heard your music
Speaker 1: and I thought, wow, like I love this, thank you.
Speaker 1: And then yeah, that's where it started. You're right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and she I mean, I was just do you know what.
Speaker 1: I actually can't remember how she and I met, but
Speaker 1: when she asked me to do that, I thought, how
Speaker 1: just this person is so dedicated to so many things.
Speaker 1: And Charlie and I I've known. I think Charlie was
Speaker 1: one of the first people I met in Nashville in
Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, and so we just thought it
Speaker 1: was such a lovely thing to do. We were like,
Speaker 1: we'd love to be part of that. And then and
Speaker 1: obviously I had known all about you for a long
Speaker 1: time and never really thought that our pauls would necessarily
Speaker 1: collide um and I was really the day that I
Speaker 1: saw you talking about let us to go. So I
Speaker 1: was totally blown away by and excited by it, just
Speaker 1: because it wasn't something I was expected. I wasn't expecting
Speaker 1: that collision of work treat huh, real change from said well, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was the first song that I heard Letters to go.
Speaker 1: I loved it, Nus, this is this is fine of
Speaker 1: my favorite your songs from earlier. And so what was
Speaker 1: amazing to me is I didn't know villain to by
Speaker 1: the way saying you Crown. You make music that I like,
Speaker 1: your style of music of a style that I like,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know you. And I remember going, hey,
Speaker 1: we're playing some shows on can Saw Do you want
Speaker 1: to come out? And it's so funny how your world
Speaker 1: being interest in my world has created great friends for me,
Speaker 1: like meeting you has because we go out and I
Speaker 1: think he did wrote the bust with us, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: come on, But that was one of the funniest That
Speaker 1: was so much fun. It was just so and I
Speaker 1: was nervous because you know, I only just met you
Speaker 1: previous to that, hadn't met Nikita before. Hann was bringing Brandon,
Speaker 1: who I really didn't know very well. He was just
Speaker 1: I was like still at all either, right, and yet
Speaker 1: it was just so relaxed and so cool. When you're
Speaker 1: sleeping in close proximity to basically strangers, it's like that
Speaker 1: opens up a whole can of worms that could be
Speaker 1: you know a million things, and I just had so
Speaker 1: much fun. I felt so relaxed. It was brilliant for
Speaker 1: me because so many things as an artist or not relaxed,
Speaker 1: and in that kind of environment I didn't expect to
Speaker 1: be because I didn't know anybody, and you didn't expect
Speaker 1: for us to be nice or expectually be nice. I
Speaker 1: didn't expect it to be as chilled as it was
Speaker 1: because you're just mixing people together that I've never been
Speaker 1: on a bus with people from radio before anything, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's just something i'd never experienced,
Speaker 1: and I hadn't spent much time with you. I knew
Speaker 1: that you were fun and everything I knew Eddie was fun,
Speaker 1: but really a group of people on a bus I
Speaker 1: was like. And also, I can get really socially anxious
Speaker 1: with different things, even though people don't seem to know
Speaker 1: that about me. I never seemed to be, but internally
Speaker 1: I'm going through a whole snakes and ladders of scenarios.
Speaker 1: Remember the first time you played I watched your live
Speaker 1: I was like, man, like, you're really good life, like
Speaker 1: your this doesn't do your live performance justice. And you
Speaker 1: were playing with Brandon Brandy came and played guitar with you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought, man, I'm a fan, and so I would
Speaker 1: just wait for you to put a musicount. I would
Speaker 1: just wait. And then we became friends because we would
Speaker 1: we This is one of the relationships that I've kept
Speaker 1: somewhat like friendship relationships, and we still communicate. And uh,
Speaker 1: we went to dinner and I didn't know your story
Speaker 1: because I know how you moved to America. I don't
Speaker 1: know you were big in the UK. I don't know anything.
Speaker 1: If you had accent, I don't know what accent was wrong.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything on the accents. Confused, and then
Speaker 1: it's so weird to sit with someone and they started
Speaker 1: asking them really personal questions. So in this environment, I
Speaker 1: can ask all I want forsake of my people hearing
Speaker 1: knowing about it. So you moved You moved in Nashville, Win,
Speaker 1: I moved here. I mean, it is crazy. Do you
Speaker 1: know everyone feels like they've had about ten lives. I
Speaker 1: really feel like I've had those, and I've never they've
Speaker 1: They've kept weirdly separate, so it's it's strange. The first
Speaker 1: time I came here was in two thousand and seven,
Speaker 1: and it was with my friend John Green, who was
Speaker 1: childhood buddies. I grew up with him. He just had
Speaker 1: been coming to Nashville, and i'd i'd grown up with
Speaker 1: some country music that you know, nineties country actually wasn't
Speaker 1: something that was that familiar to me. It was older country,
Speaker 1: and it was but i'd never I'd heard things about
Speaker 1: Nashville and in two thousand and seven it is a
Speaker 1: very different place than it is now. And I came
Speaker 1: and I ended up staying five weeks the first trip
Speaker 1: I was here. Um just I don't know. I can't
Speaker 1: even remember how it happened. As in a restaurant, I
Speaker 1: met Barry Dean, I met Busby, I'm at Darryl Franklin.
Speaker 1: I met like just a bunch of people that and
Speaker 1: Troy Virgins as well, a bunch of people that I
Speaker 1: would call some of the closest friends to me now.
Speaker 1: And I just I couldn't believe this place. It was
Speaker 1: coming off the back of a time when I was
Speaker 1: coming out of my record deal with Universal. I was
Speaker 1: just the UK record deal then, or was it a
Speaker 1: worldwide It was a world wide deal, but we just
Speaker 1: never got to America. We just never I toured Europe extensively.
Speaker 1: We honed in there. I never really got a chance
Speaker 1: to come over here. I don't even think they released
Speaker 1: music over here. So where were you biggest before? In
Speaker 1: the UK? It was the UK, but weirdly enough, Spain
Speaker 1: and Holland and places like that it was. And why
Speaker 1: I have no idea, Like I I used to ask
Speaker 1: those questions. I'd be like, is this a language barrier?
Speaker 1: Or why do they why do they like this music?
Speaker 1: And I toured a lot over there, and I remember
Speaker 1: going there and it was even when we went to
Speaker 1: tener Reef. We decided was like, this is so crazy.
Speaker 1: They're putting a gig in tenor Reef. So like these
Speaker 1: just like on the coast of Spain, and so I
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, cool, you know, rehearse go
Speaker 1: there and then we d I swear to god, this
Speaker 1: is a true story. So driving along and there's this
Speaker 1: road of ten ambulances, police cars, there's barriers, there's a
Speaker 1: and I looked around, I was like, what's going on here?
Speaker 1: And then when it's your show and I was like
Speaker 1: why what? I was like, I didn't understand how it
Speaker 1: was such a big deal. And I knew that there
Speaker 1: was going to be it was going to be a
Speaker 1: relatively big show, but I didn't know it was going
Speaker 1: to be as big as it was. And it was
Speaker 1: like six thousand people, which for me was really big
Speaker 1: at the time. I'dn't even you know, right for an artist,
Speaker 1: there's my kind of music. And they went back all
Speaker 1: the way to the ocean, and I just remember thinking,
Speaker 1: I don't think I really understood what was going on
Speaker 1: because I just never paid attention to it. I never
Speaker 1: I don't know, I was like doing headlights that whole time.
Speaker 1: Never I played first big gig, I played in England
Speaker 1: with shepherds Bush Empire. And remember even thinking then I
Speaker 1: didn't really understand the process that I was in, Like
Speaker 1: how did I get here? Because I was so young,
Speaker 1: and I also didn't get to grow the way that
Speaker 1: I've gotten to grow here. How So, I was nineteen
Speaker 1: when I signed my first record deal with the m
Speaker 1: I three years nothing ever came out, gone, and then
Speaker 1: swore off record companies for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: And then you know, weird, twisty story, I signed to
Speaker 1: Universal when I was twenty four and with the idea
Speaker 1: to what kind of music it's not that different to
Speaker 1: what I'm doing now, just a younger version. But it
Speaker 1: was very sick. I'd say it was very safe and
Speaker 1: very sweet. It was had all my influences of people
Speaker 1: like Fleetwood Mac and whether they signed you to be
Speaker 1: signed you to be like because you know in the
Speaker 1: record deal that it's always okay, we want to sign
Speaker 1: this person because they can do this. What could you do?
Speaker 1: This is? This was the funny thing. I don't think
Speaker 1: that anyone thought it was even going to work because,
Speaker 1: quite honestly, because I was a girl playing the piano,
Speaker 1: the only things that were out there there was Delta
Speaker 1: Good Room. So it was an Australian. She had been
Speaker 1: on a TV show in Australia, had a huge single
Speaker 1: and she was sort of huge in Australia already, and
Speaker 1: but I don't think I also signed to a really
Speaker 1: small label within Universal it went under and then Steve
Speaker 1: lilly White, who I was a fan of for all
Speaker 1: the music he had done, said, you know when you
Speaker 1: need to come in and see me and see Lucy
Speaker 1: and Grange and play your music for him. And because
Speaker 1: there's something special about the songs you write that you
Speaker 1: shouldn't be on this label. You should be on Mercury
Speaker 1: and do that. So I did, and I remember even thinking,
Speaker 1: and I went into Lucian's office and I was so clear,
Speaker 1: You've got to remember that. It's not like Nashville when
Speaker 1: I didn't know any other artists. I never met any
Speaker 1: You have people that you go, Okay, that's what a
Speaker 1: radio tour look like. That's what being an artist looks like.
Speaker 1: When you're in your bedroom or you're in your house
Speaker 1: writing songs and you've been a studio maybe once before,
Speaker 1: and you've never been on the road. And I was
Speaker 1: a backing singer for a few years when it was
Speaker 1: like that was like jazz clubs. That was small clubs
Speaker 1: over the UK. Suddenly, when I was thrown into the
Speaker 1: music industry, I had nothing to go on. Suddenly there's
Speaker 1: a radio team and a marketing team and your photo
Speaker 1: shoot and you do a video. And it was the
Speaker 1: craziest thing to me. It was when I see people
Speaker 1: fall into it so easily. I'm always like, wow, that's
Speaker 1: amazing that they're so young, and they seemed to just
Speaker 1: fall in as if it's second nature. I definitely was
Speaker 1: not like that. So you're in the UK, what was
Speaker 1: your biggest song. It was a song called what You're
Speaker 1: Made Of. It was a ballad. Came out in two
Speaker 1: thousand and four, and this is the crazy thing is
Speaker 1: that Facebook was starting that year, so before we just
Speaker 1: had like MySpace and stuff like that, we had such
Speaker 1: a different way of becoming known, and all I knew was, well,
Speaker 1: we have to get on the radio. I really don't
Speaker 1: think anyone thought that it would do what it did.
Speaker 1: And then even the day that it was I was
Speaker 1: getting my chart position because in England, you know, you
Speaker 1: release it in the week, the next week you get
Speaker 1: your position, and I didn't want to answer the phone
Speaker 1: to my manager because I'd already been through a lot
Speaker 1: with record labels. So I was just trying to keep
Speaker 1: my head out of I'm going to make this museum
Speaker 1: and to go out there, but I'm not going to
Speaker 1: pay attention to what it's doing. Obviously, you can't do that.
Speaker 1: You have to do And they said your number six,
Speaker 1: and I was like, to me, that was crazy. I
Speaker 1: just don't think I expected because it was a ballad
Speaker 1: amidst some really really different music in the charts at
Speaker 1: the time, It's not something that was going to be
Speaker 1: played on radio one where fat Boy Slim was being
Speaker 1: played and all this stuff. I was like a girl
Speaker 1: at the piano playing a ballad coming out of nowhere,
Speaker 1: and so where did it peak? Picked? It peaked at six,
Speaker 1: and then the album went in at eleven. How how
Speaker 1: unknown does that make you known? In Europe? You know,
Speaker 1: if you have a typed in song. I think it
Speaker 1: depends what's going on in that moment. It depends what
Speaker 1: other artists are out at that time. I feel like
Speaker 1: it took a minute by the time I released my
Speaker 1: second single, which was an uptempo song called Breathing that
Speaker 1: also went to number six, and again I was shocked
Speaker 1: about that as well, just because I was this music
Speaker 1: was so different than what was going on. I was like,
Speaker 1: how is this finding its way through? You know? And
Speaker 1: you shocked at all the success, like all the big thing.
Speaker 1: I was shocked, not because I don't love it and
Speaker 1: I don't believe in it. It's just because I think
Speaker 1: I got such a hard knock when I first I
Speaker 1: was a clueless girl thinking, you know, skipping along going
Speaker 1: everything's great. You you make music, then you signed a
Speaker 1: record deal, then you're famous. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: When you don't know anything and then suddenly three years
Speaker 1: being signed to the same people and then being dropped,
Speaker 1: your suddenly get a hard reality check and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: this isn't quite as it isn't quite as smooth as
Speaker 1: I thought it would be. And then it was a
Speaker 1: good reality check for me. The crazy thing for me
Speaker 1: is that we were talking about your career and you
Speaker 1: brought up the Metallic a song. Nothing else matters because
Speaker 1: you cut this, so but this is but you cut it?
Speaker 1: So who who played this? Where did it go? This is?
Speaker 1: This was an amazing thing. I only cut it because
Speaker 1: my sister Mia wanted me to cut it, and because I,
Speaker 1: you know, grew up on prominently other types of music.
Speaker 1: And I love the song and I thought, you know what,
Speaker 1: I can play this on piano. This is a beautiful song,
Speaker 1: even though and I didn't expect it to have any
Speaker 1: focus on it, because I just put it on the
Speaker 1: album just as something I liked. And then I think
Speaker 1: the record labels around Europe, we're like, we're going to
Speaker 1: put this out, we want to do a video. I'd
Speaker 1: recorded Abbey Road with a thirty two piece orchestra. That
Speaker 1: was dream stuff for me. I was in that studio
Speaker 1: watching this orchestra sign them of it, going this is
Speaker 1: what dreams are made of, This is the kind of
Speaker 1: music I want to make for the rest of my life.
Speaker 1: And its processed up with a Metallica song. Did you
Speaker 1: reach out to anybody in that camp or do you
Speaker 1: just cut it? We We had to reach out to
Speaker 1: them because I didn't speak to them personally, but you
Speaker 1: had because I had changed it slightly, So I think
Speaker 1: that's kind of an infringement on their copyright as to
Speaker 1: how they originally did it. So we had to reach out.
Speaker 1: But they heard it and they liked it, and I
Speaker 1: was really pumped about that. I was like, even though
Speaker 1: I probably made a few Metallica fans mad, I think,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, did you get that? Did you ever? Fans
Speaker 1: are upset? Yeah, very upset, And I was like, obviously
Speaker 1: didn't understand the weight of it. They there was people
Speaker 1: even when I went to do a gig in Denmark,
Speaker 1: I went on stage and there was a few a
Speaker 1: few booze out there because they didn't like my cover.
Speaker 1: So it was such it was like a religion to them,
Speaker 1: that music. So this song, what did it do? Did
Speaker 1: it went? It went to number one? It was a
Speaker 1: number one. It was a number one in certain countries,
Speaker 1: but it's not not not in the UK. Didn't come
Speaker 1: out as a single country number one. I think it
Speaker 1: was Spain. Yeah, but it's crazy. It was something, honestly,
Speaker 1: I didn't expect because it was a cover, and you know,
Speaker 1: as a songwriter, you think you don't even think you're
Speaker 1: gonna put covers out. There's a single and um, but
Speaker 1: we did a video. We shot the video in New
Speaker 1: Jersey and that was an amazing experience, like just we
Speaker 1: had a grand piano on top of the railroad tracks
Speaker 1: and it was all very grand. It was just it
Speaker 1: was pretty it was it was pretty amazing. Really, did
Speaker 1: you find that people didn't know the Metallica song and
Speaker 1: just thought it was a song that you had written
Speaker 1: or you had put on a record, And then they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I didn't even know it was a cover, right, It's
Speaker 1: quite possible a lot of people that weren't necessarily hardcore
Speaker 1: Metallica fans or weren't necessarily aware. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: such a huge song for them, so but there's a
Speaker 1: it was another generation of people that got to hear
Speaker 1: it in a different way. And there's actually been a
Speaker 1: few covers of this song. I'm not the only cover
Speaker 1: of it, and um they I mean it just it
Speaker 1: just opened up. I thought, this is such a beautiful song.
Speaker 1: It actually fits with my music in the way that
Speaker 1: I write ballads and and I was pleased for that.
Speaker 1: I was pleased in another genre. It had its moment
Speaker 1: and it crazy to me. I love that story. Thank you.
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Speaker 1: I don't, but you've told me about this before. Now
Speaker 1: I'm still having no I don't know. I do not
Speaker 1: want a big steak. I thought you know. I'm telling
Speaker 1: the truths told you about it away from a microt
Speaker 1: told me away from a microphone. Now it's a really
Speaker 1: amazing concept, like better way to cook. We don't have
Speaker 1: to get the commercial going, but it's great. So they
Speaker 1: come and they deliver every week or something whatever you want,
Speaker 1: like a box comes to your house. All there to
Speaker 1: think if I can't cook, so I know how to cook.
Speaker 1: When it tells you exactly what to do, everyone could cook.
Speaker 1: I can tell you the easiest things to do and
Speaker 1: you'd be everyone can cook. I love cooking. I'm not amazing.
Speaker 1: I don't do like crazy gourmet meals, but I like,
Speaker 1: you know, a chicken cast role, which I've realized that
Speaker 1: cast role is not the same thing in England as
Speaker 1: it is in America. So whatever it is here, it's
Speaker 1: like soup or stew here. Apparently apparently what I make
Speaker 1: is a soup, but I think it's a casserole. A
Speaker 1: cast role here is not a soup. It's in a
Speaker 1: hash brown castle. Yeah right, I learned that it's a
Speaker 1: Southern thing, a very southern. Okay, Well in England it's
Speaker 1: like that's real pub food, like gastro pub food where
Speaker 1: you get cast role or stew or beef and ale pies.
Speaker 1: Now I'm really starving. So you were born in New
Speaker 1: Zealand and I was born in England. So I was
Speaker 1: born in England. I went to New Zealand when I
Speaker 1: was a little kid, and actually, weirdly enough, my family,
Speaker 1: a lot of my family, my whole immediate family lived
Speaker 1: there now, but my dad spent a portion of his
Speaker 1: childhood in New Zealand as well. So and my family's
Speaker 1: huge two brothers married two sisters, so someone that way
Speaker 1: somewhere that way. My mom too. My mom and her
Speaker 1: sister married two brothers. You're the only person I've ever
Speaker 1: heard of doing that. Wow, that's so. That means all
Speaker 1: your family is the same, like saying you're a double cousin.
Speaker 1: Double cousins, and I mean so many cousins, some of
Speaker 1: which I mean you go to a you know, one
Speaker 1: of those family events. This is your cousin, This is
Speaker 1: your cousin, This is your cousin, which one like fourth, cousin, fifth,
Speaker 1: There's a lot of them. And so you're born in England,
Speaker 1: you move in New Zealand, and then back to England again.
Speaker 1: When I was about so what's the accent? And make
Speaker 1: sure I have no idea? I mean, I'm so confused
Speaker 1: with my accent. I mean, I've been here a while too,
Speaker 1: and when you're around American accents all the time, I
Speaker 1: feel like I actually enforced to shift because people are like,
Speaker 1: what what did you just say? What? What's that? Even
Speaker 1: my dog's name, My dog's names Barly, but I have
Speaker 1: to call her Barley because otherwise everyone's like Barley Bary what?
Speaker 1: And and you know, you change your accents. So then
Speaker 1: when I go back to England. I get a load
Speaker 1: of grief from all my friends in England saying I
Speaker 1: sound American to Americans. I sound Australian to Australians. I
Speaker 1: sound Scottish or English, I don't know. So you know what,
Speaker 1: I like speaking cover as I do enjoy the version
Speaker 1: of perfect that you put out. Think you put this
Speaker 1: out by itself, right, yeah, and you have a lot
Speaker 1: of really good covers that you just created and put out.
Speaker 1: What what about the covers is it for you? It's
Speaker 1: I mean, I've done a few. I mean, some people
Speaker 1: you'll see, they'll put up covers on Spotify. They'll constantly
Speaker 1: be doing versions of songs. It takes a lot for
Speaker 1: me to do that, just because I have to. For
Speaker 1: some reason, I loved that song. I love a lot
Speaker 1: one direction that's really good. I'll be honest. I didn't
Speaker 1: like it until you've covered it, and I loved it
Speaker 1: afterwards because it because I listen to the words when
Speaker 1: you did it. When I hear this now it's looked
Speaker 1: too fast and there's still too tempo, it's like, okay,
Speaker 1: it'sn't it. But when you're saying it, I heard the words.
Speaker 1: It made me listen to the One Direction version. It
Speaker 1: felt there's something longing about it because when I heard
Speaker 1: the words, that's why it connected with me, because I
Speaker 1: was like, there's something a bit dark about this that
Speaker 1: I like, and I wanted to get the gritty side
Speaker 1: of it out, which is you can only really you
Speaker 1: really only find that longing that the words, because I
Speaker 1: love that's one of their songs that I just loved
Speaker 1: the lyrics the most. Because of that, It's just sounds
Speaker 1: a bit well that intrigues me, that subject that they're
Speaker 1: talking about. Did you find the One Direction fans came
Speaker 1: at you the same way the Metallica fans came at you? Actually,
Speaker 1: I feel like they for the most part, it seemed
Speaker 1: to be that they liked it. I think it was
Speaker 1: sort of different because I didn't seem to be. It's
Speaker 1: not like I was a million miles like Metallica fans.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just different things it. They seem
Speaker 1: almost like really offended when they did the metall But yeah,
Speaker 1: but the One Direction, not that I'm aware of not
Speaker 1: didn't they seem it bothered by it at all? You
Speaker 1: never get to sing them Metallica? Did you know they've
Speaker 1: already told you about that. If that happened, I mean,
Speaker 1: that would have been legendary. And actually the reason I
Speaker 1: did the Metallica cover how I did it was because
Speaker 1: they did the Michael Came in version with a full orchestra,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of was like, oh man, that is
Speaker 1: I mean, if you ever get to perform, I've done
Speaker 1: a couple of things where I've gotten to perform with
Speaker 1: a full orchestra, and it's just one of the scariest
Speaker 1: but amazing because you're playing the piano, You've got a click,
Speaker 1: and you know you've got the conductor over there, you're singing,
Speaker 1: everything is going on. It's the most crazy multitasking I've
Speaker 1: ever done. And but amazing. Are you wearing inner ears
Speaker 1: when you play the orchestra? I was the second time
Speaker 1: because it was it was a big place that we
Speaker 1: did it in, so I had to have the click
Speaker 1: and because we were too far away from each other.
Speaker 1: But there have been times where maybe I was on
Speaker 1: wedges and it was just going by what the conductor
Speaker 1: was doing, which is just terrifying because I don't you
Speaker 1: know his movements are the orchestra members are used to
Speaker 1: those types of movements, But I'm like, what's the downbeat?
Speaker 1: Was it up or down? Like what's happening? And it's
Speaker 1: really scary, but it is really an amazing feeling. It
Speaker 1: just feels like a lot. It's a lot, and I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're nothing to think about, it's a lot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I get watching a show with the orchestra,
Speaker 1: playing a show with the orchestra, plus you know, they
Speaker 1: start playing people that play in orchestras or you know,
Speaker 1: those types of musicians. They play with such emotion and
Speaker 1: I'm practically crying afterwards. I'm devastated by what they've just done.
Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, that's lunch. They put their bow
Speaker 1: down and they just walk out with like seemingly no emotion.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what you're doing is genius to me, but
Speaker 1: you're making no big deal. So I can't read music.
Speaker 1: I'm not I've always played by ear. I can't. I'm
Speaker 1: not academically good at any of that, so it always
Speaker 1: blows me away. Let me play one more of these
Speaker 1: because I pulled a few of the covers that I liked.
Speaker 1: This is my favorite Willie Nelson song is Blue Eyes
Speaker 1: Crying in the Rain. My second is always on my
Speaker 1: mind because I love slow song. I think that's why
Speaker 1: I love your music so much. Like I like real,
Speaker 1: pure slow songs that made me want to get in
Speaker 1: my closet and cover myself and my pretty cloth and
Speaker 1: cry right right like with me. I feel like this
Speaker 1: is the one where I go, don't screw it up
Speaker 1: because and they're all these songs are so precious to
Speaker 1: the people who love them precious. And to this song,
Speaker 1: I go, oh, don't screw it's it's yeah you always
Speaker 1: this is the Live Things a year ago. Um, I
Speaker 1: mean that's the thing you These songs the same as
Speaker 1: the Royal persons like, these are classics, they are staples,
Speaker 1: legendary songs. I think all you can do is be
Speaker 1: the artist that you are. And if it's the reason
Speaker 1: I picked this because it touches me and I can
Speaker 1: only sing how I feel it. You come on, do
Speaker 1: you hear that? Go damn, I'm good. I mean I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm too self critical. I'll be pulling that apart. So
Speaker 1: but oh that I felt it at the time. I
Speaker 1: know one thing I won't criticize about myself is that
Speaker 1: when I'm in that moment, I know I sung my heart.
Speaker 1: I know I couldn't have done it any better. So
Speaker 1: that's good. Go ahead, that's lovely, thank you. How about okay,
Speaker 1: let's do that? Oh what's up? This is like I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm in an episode of This Is Your Life.
Speaker 1: It's like you could start bringing in strangers that I
Speaker 1: really don't want to see ever again. And here's your
Speaker 1: cousin because my cousin Molaska. I mean, this is my voice.
Speaker 1: That's like a different person. Yes, I either smoked forty
Speaker 1: cigarettes or just talked way too much or had too
Speaker 1: many late nights since then. I mean, it's so bizarre
Speaker 1: because obviously I've I'm older since that came out. I
Speaker 1: have lived a whole different life since that came out.
Speaker 1: That sounds so innocent to me, And it was. It was,
Speaker 1: and I loved it. It was like I, as just said,
Speaker 1: was a big Fleetwood Mac fan. That was like my
Speaker 1: tribute somehow. It was like when we were recording that song,
Speaker 1: but I just don't even I recognize where I was.
Speaker 1: But it's such a different person to me. Same it was.
Speaker 1: I love the song. This is for the record side.
Speaker 1: It was not a joke everything, it's just for the record.
Speaker 1: I really love did you write that I did. Rust
Speaker 1: and Kelly and Jared k Who's were all the three
Speaker 1: of us are great friends and in our friendship, we've
Speaker 1: known each other for years. I don't even remember how
Speaker 1: we got so close, but that day was really the
Speaker 1: special to us because we were hanging out anyway, and
Speaker 1: actually I think it was me and Me and Garald
Speaker 1: were writing and Rusty came. We came and met Rusty
Speaker 1: for a drink and then we're like, should we all
Speaker 1: go and write a song today, Let's just go do it.
Speaker 1: And I obviously they're both so talented, and Rustin's voice,
Speaker 1: hees just start singing and you're just like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: just he's one of the most natural artists I've ever met.
Speaker 1: And I remember talking. We were talking about our past experiences,
Speaker 1: which we had a lot of similarities, and I said,
Speaker 1: you know, when you come out, you just come out
Speaker 1: of things looking bad. You're the one that looks bad.
Speaker 1: You're and you want to kind of say to someone, hey,
Speaker 1: just for the record, And we all just stopped in
Speaker 1: our tracks and we're like that we need to write
Speaker 1: that because that is something that it's summed up when
Speaker 1: you when you are able to do that, when you're
Speaker 1: able to sum things up perfectly as how as how
Speaker 1: as to how you all felt, even the bit about
Speaker 1: you laugh with your friends and say that I'm not
Speaker 1: good enough. I mean, these are things that you just
Speaker 1: know coming out of stuff, that you're on the receiving
Speaker 1: end of that. And now such a special day. And
Speaker 1: Rustin has recorded it his for his new record as well. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's so I've got a version on my new
Speaker 1: record that's coming out this year, and he his version
Speaker 1: is so beautiful. It's it's like the different the ways
Speaker 1: that men and women feel emotion so differently. His sounds
Speaker 1: even a little darker than mine, a little even more longing.
Speaker 1: It's different minds on piano and sort of slight like
Speaker 1: that double time approach. His sounds probably um, maybe a
Speaker 1: little more country, a little more roots see than mine. Um.
Speaker 1: And his voice is measurmizing. So it's just it's just
Speaker 1: an amazing different way to feel it. I played this earlier,
Speaker 1: this with Dave Barnes's friend that was it must be
Speaker 1: three years ago now, something like that, and I remember
Speaker 1: us in a room as well, and it was again
Speaker 1: that kind of subject matter of looking at the pass
Speaker 1: and looking our situations and Marion started singing that line
Speaker 1: the three to one. I remember like it just hit
Speaker 1: me immediately, and I was like, you know, we had
Speaker 1: the title villain. And I remember saying to them afterwards,
Speaker 1: I said to Marion, you know, do you do you
Speaker 1: want to cut this song? You know? Because and she
Speaker 1: she wasn't sure yet what she was cutting and what
Speaker 1: she was doing, and I said, I feel very connected
Speaker 1: to it, and um, if it's cool with you, I'd
Speaker 1: love to record it. And I did a version of it,
Speaker 1: but by this time I'd already recorded a whole record.
Speaker 1: I literally had no money left, I had no way
Speaker 1: to couldn't get back in the studio again. So I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna go upstairs to my computer. I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna record it upstairs in a room in my house.
Speaker 1: And I'm not very good on logic or pro tools
Speaker 1: around the stuff I get by, I mean, but I
Speaker 1: recorded like that, just did it all myself, and I
Speaker 1: sent it to mar and I was like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is I don't know if I'm doing the song justice
Speaker 1: because this sounds kind of I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: know how professional was sound. And she loved it and
Speaker 1: she was so excited. We just we were so excited
Speaker 1: of the song and me and Dave, the three of us.
Speaker 1: It was one of those days again, it was one
Speaker 1: of those special days where you're just hanging out and
Speaker 1: you feel a real connection between the three of you
Speaker 1: and I love Marion, I love Dave. They really do
Speaker 1: feel like family to me. So it's it's even better
Speaker 1: when a song like that that means so much to you,
Speaker 1: who comes out of that. I saw Maren after her
Speaker 1: wedding posted Instagram with you in it. You're sang her
Speaker 1: down the aisle. Yeah, and again that was I mean,
Speaker 1: that's song. You got it? Actually, she she asked, so
Speaker 1: with me, Royal person covered me, Natalie Hemby, Laura Velts
Speaker 1: and Ian fit Chuck all sang it so and it was.
Speaker 1: It was so special because Marion was one of four
Speaker 1: people that were there when John and I got married,
Speaker 1: so there was only we were in my house. We
Speaker 1: didn't have a proper big wedding, so Marion was John's
Speaker 1: best man basically, And when she texted to say, you know,
Speaker 1: I'd really love this, I was so honored because it
Speaker 1: is such a it's such a beautiful, special, intimate day
Speaker 1: and I thought, what better feeling to watch someone walk
Speaker 1: down the end. I was worried about myself off because
Speaker 1: I'd just come home from being with my family in
Speaker 1: New Zealand. I was going to watch her walk down
Speaker 1: the aisle marrying Ryan trying to sing this song, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I need to hold it together. And
Speaker 1: luckily her dog, Pancake, came down the our first, so
Speaker 1: I was laughing at Pancakes. He's so cute. That really
Speaker 1: saved me from bawling my eyes out. Wow. So Marion
Speaker 1: was was John's best women for a while. We have
Speaker 1: I mean, when Mary moved to town, I guess, and
Speaker 1: I'm very bad at timeline, so I can't remember, but
Speaker 1: we met her. I think it was really through Casey
Speaker 1: that we met Marion. And she, you know, she was
Speaker 1: really shy and sort of unassuming, really smart, but just
Speaker 1: sort of like keep to herself. And we went to
Speaker 1: Santa's Pub one night and she just she sang Halo
Speaker 1: my business. She started singing like what's going on before,
Speaker 1: like it's ridiculous, and we had no idea. We were like,
Speaker 1: what just happened? This is a pocket rocket, this tiny
Speaker 1: little thing who's so sweet and sings with this enormous voice,
Speaker 1: and that's just kind of her all over. She just
Speaker 1: she moved to a new town as have got her
Speaker 1: head down and worked hard and and I don't know it,
Speaker 1: just I just guess you gravitate towards certain people, and
Speaker 1: she was one of them. I just found her would
Speaker 1: always be really sweet and kind, and I've been really
Speaker 1: proud and learned a lot watching her do what she does.
Speaker 1: You sold a million records, so we just handed this
Speaker 1: note in Europe. It's all a million records, a million,
Speaker 1: one million. Yeah, it's crazy. I don't understand a million records.
Speaker 1: That's a lot. That's why people come to your shows.
Speaker 1: That's a lot. I mean it. And that's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's so crazy when I say I've lived different lives
Speaker 1: because my career, I mean I moved to Nashville, and
Speaker 1: people in England thought, well, I guess she's going to
Speaker 1: be a songwriter. She's moved somewhere else, she's not coming
Speaker 1: back here. But I've never really been worried about And
Speaker 1: also when I came to Nashville, I never told anyone.
Speaker 1: I never really discussed with anyone like what I've done before.
Speaker 1: It was so blown away by Nashville. I was so
Speaker 1: I was. I was intimidated, and also I didn't think
Speaker 1: it was relevant. I just wanted to learn and wanted
Speaker 1: to meet people because I found the pop I found
Speaker 1: the industry jarring, and when I came to Nashville, there
Speaker 1: was just people getting up and singing and writing songs,
Speaker 1: and it just felt like the connection I'd always been
Speaker 1: looking for. I feel like you're the most positive person
Speaker 1: around other artists that I know. You're still encouraging to everybody.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's genuine, because I don't Why wouldn't I be,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like, I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: the type of person. I have in securities like the
Speaker 1: next person, like everybody does, but I don't. They don't
Speaker 1: come out towards other people. They come out towards my
Speaker 1: They're self destructive at the worst of times, and when
Speaker 1: it comes to other people, like I just you know,
Speaker 1: And it's not like I love every bit of music
Speaker 1: I hear, but when I do, I just really I
Speaker 1: just love to see people go out there and do
Speaker 1: their thing. I like to see people work hard, and
Speaker 1: I think that belief in themselves and that way that
Speaker 1: they're putting out something I love inspires me to do
Speaker 1: it as well. So it makes me feel yeah, just
Speaker 1: it kind of eggs me on a little bit. But
Speaker 1: also I just I just feel like people need encouragement
Speaker 1: and it's just nice to especially in this community. It's
Speaker 1: people thrive off each other's love and support and the
Speaker 1: community that they've built here. I feel like people do
Speaker 1: better because of it. So your husband is John from
Speaker 1: Brothers Osborne, and that's been quite the rocket ship in
Speaker 1: the past. It's I mean, not a rocket ship for
Speaker 1: you guys, because you've been in him. He's been grinding
Speaker 1: it out for so long. Yeah, but as far as
Speaker 1: the general public to go boom, Here's Brothers Osborne, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's had to be quite the ride in the house, huh.
Speaker 1: It has. But you know, the funny thing is, it's
Speaker 1: like you said, I've been watching it for such a
Speaker 1: long time at John ten years nearly eleven years ago,
Speaker 1: and he was he was in a band called King
Speaker 1: Billy and it was and then his brother and him
Speaker 1: were always playing together. So I've seen this long journey.
Speaker 1: But I guess it's hard for me to see what
Speaker 1: that looks like. I mean, I never see what it
Speaker 1: looks like from an audience perspective. He's John to me.
Speaker 1: I mean, even when he goes on stage and plays guitar,
Speaker 1: I'm like, hang on a minute, how do I connect
Speaker 1: the person that I know and I'm married to to
Speaker 1: that guy who is playing the most insane, incredible, so
Speaker 1: low as I've ever heard in my life. I can't
Speaker 1: even compute the two and and actually it's probably a
Speaker 1: good thing that I can't, because I probably wouldn't be
Speaker 1: able to make eye contact. But he's he's just I
Speaker 1: think he's such a worker. I don't think he doesn't
Speaker 1: take he doesn't put too much stock in the hoopler
Speaker 1: of what's going on because he just wants to play guitar.
Speaker 1: And t J and him are just very I think
Speaker 1: they're quite relaxed and chilled about it because of their
Speaker 1: upbringing and they but it is amazing to watch what's
Speaker 1: happened and the way it's happened, because it hasn't been
Speaker 1: easy for them. It's not like they went hang on
Speaker 1: the scene and Okay, this is easy. You're getting on
Speaker 1: the radio, you're getting awards again. They really had to
Speaker 1: work at it, and I think that they're carving out
Speaker 1: elane that is very unique to them, and that's what
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of. And the biggest thing was the
Speaker 1: last time I thought was in the room when they
Speaker 1: won an award. It could have been the c M
Speaker 1: as it was the way people reacted to them winning
Speaker 1: the award that made me literally want to cry. I was.
Speaker 1: I was very proud to watch the amount of love
Speaker 1: and support for them because I think they've wanted to
Speaker 1: do it the most authentic way. They don't They've wanted
Speaker 1: to do it in the real way. They wanted to
Speaker 1: make music that they love, no matter how difficult it is,
Speaker 1: no matter how they might not fit in with everything.
Speaker 1: So it's been good to watch. I think people root
Speaker 1: for people that work hard, just generally, if you root
Speaker 1: for the person that's putting in the time. And I
Speaker 1: think that's why people are root for John and t
Speaker 1: J one. They are very likable people. If you get
Speaker 1: in sometimes like t J, I want to put me
Speaker 1: in the face. But I don't have to work anymore.
Speaker 1: J Oo, I don't know anymore. I don't know, but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think people root hard. Never record coming out Friday
Speaker 1: right right? What about you? I mean that record is
Speaker 1: so bad as by the way, it's a classic, it's
Speaker 1: so beautiful and and but like you said, you root
Speaker 1: for people that work hard, and I have friends that
Speaker 1: And it's the delicate thing about this town is that
Speaker 1: there's it's it's been an inspiring thing to make music.
Speaker 1: You get us Bible. What you have to be careful
Speaker 1: of is you want friendships to be real. You want
Speaker 1: those relationships to be based on how you feel around
Speaker 1: each other, not based on what's happening in each other's careers.
Speaker 1: You want that real connection. And I think I think
Speaker 1: the biggest thing for them is that they've had They
Speaker 1: just keep the realness around them, and so do I.
Speaker 1: That's what inspires us to work harder. And like you say,
Speaker 1: I'll root for people that work hard, that that are humble.
Speaker 1: I don't. It doesn't even matter if you like each
Speaker 1: other's music, is just that you respect the way that
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Speaker 1: What's what's the deal with your new music? What's the deal?
Speaker 1: So I have a record coming coming out August. I
Speaker 1: hope it's coming out straight four Ow is it done?
Speaker 1: It's all done? Um It's called E g O, which
Speaker 1: and everybody gets off on I don't That is a
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Speaker 1: So I'm really really excited about this record for so
Speaker 1: many reasons. Firstly, the music. It feels like some sort
Speaker 1: of weird personal awakening to me, and that's a very
Speaker 1: typical thing to say for an artist probably, But the
Speaker 1: reason it is is because I've been in this town,
Speaker 1: maybe on a permanent level, maybe ten years overall, but
Speaker 1: living here for about seven years, and I made letters
Speaker 1: to ghosts and that was an Now I most so
Speaker 1: proud of, but I feel like I've still been finding
Speaker 1: my way as British Lucy, you know, in an industry
Speaker 1: of well, I'm in this genre that's not quite it's
Speaker 1: not pop, it's not country, it's this place. So it's like,
Speaker 1: what is that place that I've had to find? And
Speaker 1: I've never had more fun than I had with this
Speaker 1: album doing that because I really didn't think about any
Speaker 1: of it. I went in with John Green again, who
Speaker 1: was the person that brought me to Nashville in the
Speaker 1: first place. It was sort of a full circle thing.
Speaker 1: We recorded it a Battle Tapes. I was so excited
Speaker 1: to record there because Steel is Um, Andrew Combs, the Brummies,
Speaker 1: they all did their records there and I loved the
Speaker 1: sound of all of them. And Jeremy Ferguson over there
Speaker 1: was just one of the most amazing engineers people I've
Speaker 1: gotten to meet here. And we did it there and
Speaker 1: it just felt like we were in a bubble, which
Speaker 1: is what I needed to be in in this amazing
Speaker 1: town with so many artists around me, my husband, my
Speaker 1: friends doing all their things. I was like, well, what
Speaker 1: is my thing? What is where do I want to
Speaker 1: go next? And I've gotten such amazing support from the
Speaker 1: country community, but really it's important for me to do
Speaker 1: something that feels really authentically myself, which you know, is
Speaker 1: based on a lot of music that comes out of Nashville,
Speaker 1: just not necessarily country. And so we just had a blast.
Speaker 1: I had every close friend involved in this record, and
Speaker 1: that's I really think it's really special. I wrote. Natalie
Speaker 1: Hamby is one of the main features on the record.
Speaker 1: She we wrote five together, and I genuinely don't even
Speaker 1: know how when we wrote them, because it creaked up
Speaker 1: on us how many we've written together. We just and
Speaker 1: it was so special because she's truly one of my
Speaker 1: favorite people and one of my She's someone I love
Speaker 1: so dearly and I think I'll know for the rest
Speaker 1: of my life. And the same as you know, Aaron
Speaker 1: McCauley and John my husband, and we wrote one, Kate
Speaker 1: York and just you know, Jeremy Spillman as well, just
Speaker 1: people that I just there are people I have in
Speaker 1: my life on a daily basis, and when I listened
Speaker 1: to this album, it just feels so unique to me.
Speaker 1: Um that kind of makes it harder when you think
Speaker 1: we'll wear in the scheme of things. There's a sip,
Speaker 1: but I don't care about any of that. I didn't
Speaker 1: think about any of that. I just made an album
Speaker 1: that's so exciting to me lyrically and sound wise and
Speaker 1: reflects where I'm at. You wanted the short answer, didn't
Speaker 1: you know? I'm just I'm listening. You know I could
Speaker 1: keep going. You know, I'm going to have it downloaded,
Speaker 1: and your prepate on vinyl because you're cool. But I've
Speaker 1: never had vinyl before the seven inches that I did,
Speaker 1: so I'll have it on vinyl because vinyl is core.
Speaker 1: Vinyl is so cool and I actually, weirdly enough, when
Speaker 1: I was younger, I used to collect the forty fives.
Speaker 1: I had, like this whole little China juke box, small
Speaker 1: ones had things Sign of the Times on viol and everything.
Speaker 1: But I've never had a full full vinyl before. So
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about that. And it's I'm working with
Speaker 1: thirty Tigers on this record, and just everything is a
Speaker 1: new venture for me on this and it's it's really
Speaker 1: really exciting. I just feel a lot of freedom with it.
Speaker 1: So when will people get to hear it? So the
Speaker 1: first song they're here in June will come out and
Speaker 1: then there'll be three, probably two more after that before
Speaker 1: the record comes out in August. How exciting, It's so exciting,
Speaker 1: and it's really and it's it's just I've gotten to
Speaker 1: do so many great, exciting things over the past year
Speaker 1: that have led me up to at this point, and honestly,
Speaker 1: it's it's right for me to tell people. Obviously, I've
Speaker 1: been an independent artist, as you know, no record deals,
Speaker 1: no teams of people, just me and my manager slogging
Speaker 1: it out, figuring out how to do it. Then started
Speaker 1: working obviously with Jay Williams wm E, but aside from
Speaker 1: that we were really as a team on our own.
Speaker 1: And then I got the call that I was that
Speaker 1: Chris and Morgan wanted me to go on tour with them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Stapleton's and that was I've done a few shows with
Speaker 1: them before. I've done maybe five or six with them
Speaker 1: the previous year, and I knew the brothers were going
Speaker 1: out with them, and they said, well, they want you
Speaker 1: to go to and I was, I just was. So
Speaker 1: I remember sending Morgan an email just saying, you have
Speaker 1: no idea how much this means to me, because being
Speaker 1: on the road with you guys obviously I love their music,
Speaker 1: I love what they do, I love the story. But
Speaker 1: I get to be on the road with my family
Speaker 1: like it just you can't cross pollinating those worlds. For
Speaker 1: me never got to happen before I moved to Nashville,
Speaker 1: so I on life quite difficult trying to balance the two.
Speaker 1: And if it weren't for christ and Morgan, I don't
Speaker 1: think I would have been able to. I would have
Speaker 1: found a way because I've always found a way financially
Speaker 1: to make music and do everything I've done because it's
Speaker 1: all been self financed. But because of them, I was
Speaker 1: able to go into the studio at that time and
Speaker 1: make this record. Really amazing. Wait until August. August it
Speaker 1: feels like ages away. But time is flying way too
Speaker 1: quick already. It feels because my Boot comes out in June.
Speaker 1: I thought that will never happen. So it's your second book.
Speaker 1: It was like September of last year and I'm going June,
Speaker 1: give me a breath now, and here we are. It's
Speaker 1: recording this. It's almost made right. It's crazy. Same as
Speaker 1: the Brothers. You know, they recorded their album April of
Speaker 1: last year and they've had to wait a year by
Speaker 1: the time mine comes out, I would have waited nearly
Speaker 1: a year, and it's excruciating. You know, you just wanna
Speaker 1: I'm in that headspace. And also I don't want to
Speaker 1: listen to the stuff I've done because then I'll rerecord
Speaker 1: the whole thing because I'll be picking it to pieces.
Speaker 1: But I'm just excited for the time of my life
Speaker 1: that I'm in the people. I had like a listening
Speaker 1: party just for the people that were involved in the record,
Speaker 1: and and then I had you know, Marion and Ryan came,
Speaker 1: and Casey cames, Rustin's on the record, but people, some
Speaker 1: people came just because they were supporting and wanting to
Speaker 1: hear it. And I looked around the room and it
Speaker 1: was some of my favorite when I wrote songs with
Speaker 1: Jade McPherson on there, with Trent Dabs on there, people
Speaker 1: that I truly admire. Looking around the room and I thought,
Speaker 1: I don't care even what happens to this. I just
Speaker 1: I got to make something that I love with my
Speaker 1: best friend, with my husband, playing with all these people.
Speaker 1: This is I just don't feel like many people get
Speaker 1: to do it like that. So positive. I'm negative sometimes
Speaker 1: I've never seen it. John sees it, but I mean,
Speaker 1: you're a real treasurer. I do think as a person
Speaker 1: as an artist. Before I don't know fan of the music.
Speaker 1: Thank you, And that's how I know I like the
Speaker 1: music because didn't know you music, But thank you. No,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's really cool to see. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: such a music fan and you like so you like
Speaker 1: such an eclectic range of things. This town has so
Speaker 1: much of it. And I knew, like when I started
Speaker 1: to see you post about different kinds of music weren't
Speaker 1: necessarily played on your show, I was like, I know
Speaker 1: we're gonna have a lot in common, lots of talking.
Speaker 1: Then then I started playing all the all the stuff
Speaker 1: that I like it's not country on my country show,
Speaker 1: and then everybody again I just don't do it whatever,
Speaker 1: But people were people were human beings, but you, but
Speaker 1: you're the personality on that show, and people want to
Speaker 1: know what you like, and you know it's just because
Speaker 1: you're you know, it's it's it's all part and parcel
Speaker 1: of who you are as a person and what you're
Speaker 1: listening to. I love that. And that's like I said,
Speaker 1: when I didn't expect you to play Let's to Go,
Speaker 1: I didn't really think about that and think it was
Speaker 1: gonna happen. When I heard that you played on the show,
Speaker 1: I was so excited because it's things that music takes
Speaker 1: you to places and meet people that you never expected
Speaker 1: to meet. And my life in Nashville has been just
Speaker 1: constant surge of that, like Wow, Okay, this is happening. Now,
Speaker 1: this is happening. And you know, I remember when we
Speaker 1: went out on the road, you were like, Hey, what's
Speaker 1: your plan? And I remember going, Mmm, I'm on the
Speaker 1: non plan plan because I don't I'm not admittedly there's
Speaker 1: a lot of things that I probably don't plan like
Speaker 1: I should do. You know why I asked that, though?
Speaker 1: Do you know why I would ask you what your plan?
Speaker 1: I assumed it was because you cared, because because I
Speaker 1: wanted to be a part of helping you in your plan.
Speaker 1: So that's what it was. Was, I, Hey, what's your plan?
Speaker 1: Maybe I can expedite the process a bit because I
Speaker 1: personally enjoy what you do, so let me help you
Speaker 1: with your plan. It was it, Hey, I'm looking at
Speaker 1: what you're doing. I knew that. I hope it didn't
Speaker 1: come across as that, because it was it was, Hey,
Speaker 1: what's your plan because I want to help you with
Speaker 1: the plan. I know, I knew that. I knew that,
Speaker 1: and you did. That's the thing, and I think it
Speaker 1: was just that at that time, it was one of
Speaker 1: those things where I think, now I've got so much
Speaker 1: more of a clearer view of where I am and
Speaker 1: where I want to go, because at that time I'd
Speaker 1: made a record because I was in love with Nashville
Speaker 1: and it was very much like It's not like I
Speaker 1: didn't but we didn't go to any record labels. We
Speaker 1: didn't do any of that with it. We just put
Speaker 1: it out. So now I'm going to um to petition
Speaker 1: to play Madison Square Garden, to headline to Greek So
Speaker 1: if you could help me with that, No, I mean,
Speaker 1: the album's coming out and were we are, like you said,
Speaker 1: you know you and we have talked about this where
Speaker 1: I sit in the scheme of music and it's kind
Speaker 1: of on the outskirts of we're going for that kind
Speaker 1: of world of you know, Triple A and all that
Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and I just want to I want
Speaker 1: to be on the road. I want to build up
Speaker 1: my own life following because I've gotten to open with
Speaker 1: some great people. But I really want to get you know,
Speaker 1: I want to start touring a lot and digging a
Speaker 1: lot so I can start to build my audience here.
Speaker 1: And you know, this record is bold lyrically and I
Speaker 1: just kind of I've got a few things that I
Speaker 1: want to do along with it and just show people
Speaker 1: hold a new side to me that they may not
Speaker 1: have seen before. But I have a good team of
Speaker 1: people now, and I've never had that before. I've never
Speaker 1: had people actually working to get my music out to
Speaker 1: the world. And it feels really really great. Well, when
Speaker 1: it comes out, I'm there for you. Thank you. I
Speaker 1: will be there for you. Well, it has been thanks
Speaker 1: for coming by. I think I said, you've probably been
Speaker 1: in twenty episodes where you've been a reference of something
Speaker 1: from a couple. By the way, I don't say anything
Speaker 1: bad because you're on a podcast. Yeah yeah, don't Yeah,
Speaker 1: don't don't say anything that you don't want her buy
Speaker 1: a few people, okay, go So yeah, well, well well
Speaker 1: you may you may hear this after August. The record
Speaker 1: maybe out right now, and it's called e g oh
Speaker 1: why why why would you call it? Everybody gets on.
Speaker 1: It's actually a good question because where I was at
Speaker 1: I was like sometimes the fame and the the like.
Speaker 1: We were talking about attention from people and the fickle
Speaker 1: audience that will be like, Okay, I love that everyone's
Speaker 1: clamoring to say how can I stand out? How can
Speaker 1: I rise above it all? And sometimes that takes you
Speaker 1: to places that I think people shouldn't have to go.
Speaker 1: And it's talking about everyone is drinking the cool aid
Speaker 1: of this fame thing that, and I'm guilty of it too.
Speaker 1: It was really not poking fun in anyone other than
Speaker 1: really myself saying sometimes I get caught up in things
Speaker 1: that I shouldn't get caught up in, and you get
Speaker 1: caught up for doing something for the wrong reasons, And
Speaker 1: it really is that. It's a kind of tongue in
Speaker 1: cheek of being at a party. It says, how how
Speaker 1: can I help you? How now I've fought me on lyrics,
Speaker 1: but saying like when you go to a party and
Speaker 1: someone says, what are you doing? They're trying to find
Speaker 1: a way that you can help them, or everyone can
Speaker 1: get connected to for some contrived reason, and it's really
Speaker 1: talking about that. A lot of the record is talking
Speaker 1: about finding what's real to you in your life and
Speaker 1: what you want the fraudulent things you want to get
Speaker 1: rid of. I'm not looking for you for anything to
Speaker 1: boost me up. Come on, tell me the real reason.
Speaker 1: Like so, it's been a real treat, a lot of
Speaker 1: pre talk he did. It was great, none of your
Speaker 1: truth session. Okay, I'm moving, but yeah, I'll be moving
Speaker 1: in here. You can, Yeah, you can have it all right, Well,
Speaker 1: we'll see you next time. Thanks to our sponsors. Are
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