WEBVTT - #114 - Lucie Silvas 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:05.280 Yeah, welcome to episode one, one four of the Bobby 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:07.800 Cast one four Team for me is exciting because I'm 0:00:07.840 --> 0:00:12.680 a legitimate fan of Lucy Silva's her music first and 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:16.840 her as a person's second. And we've been waiting to 0:00:16.840 --> 0:00:18.439 get her in for a while. And so we we 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:20.240 talked about you're gonna hear we talk about she has 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:22.480 a new record coming in August. Now you might hear 0:00:22.520 --> 0:00:24.920 this after August. But this is fun for me. Let 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.600 me also say that a couple of things. One a 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:30.000 couple of podcasts you can check out. Jake Owen has 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:35.360 one called Good Company. There's a new one from Velvet's Edge. 0:00:35.760 --> 0:00:40.600 Kelley Henderson is a stylist. She does hair and makeup 0:00:40.640 --> 0:00:44.559 and then they call it grooming right yeah, for Dirk's 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:48.240 and Al Deane and she stopping styles me for big 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:50.839 things I can't afford all the time style. She just 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:54.600 head on justin tumber Legs podcast. So yeah, so that's 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:58.560 her area. So if you're into fashion and styles and 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:04.400 fashion styles, live styles, yeah, check out the Velvet's Edge podcast. 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:10.760 Because also the guys from well, there's Christian Bush. We 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:13.960 already mentioned that one or now okay, and there's the 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:16.880 guys from Whiskey Riff Whiskey Riff Raff. Okay, cool, there's that. 0:01:16.920 --> 0:01:19.240 I'm on the road. Come and watch me do stand 0:01:19.319 --> 0:01:22.240 up on my Red Hoodie comedy tour. If you're in 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:27.240 which show falls Texas or Charleston, South Carolina or Tampa, Florida, 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:30.760 come out Otherwise, Here we go, Episode one fourteen with 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.840 one of my favorite people. She's nicer than even she 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:35.840 seems in this podcast, and she seems super nice in 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:40.800 the podcast. Here is Lucy Silva's All right, Welcome to 0:01:41.040 --> 0:01:44.600 the Bobby Cast with Lucy Silva's I do think you're 0:01:44.640 --> 0:01:49.000 probably the most talked about guests overall. We've done over 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:52.960 a hundred episodes, and forever it was I'm gonna wait 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.840 and bring Lucy end because we know each other, and 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:58.240 it's weird for me to interview and talk to someone 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:00.400 that I know because you came toament Us early and 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:05.120 we hung out downstairs. I'm always annoyingly early, me too 0:02:05.920 --> 0:02:08.520 uncomfortably for other people, are uncomfortably for other people, But 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:10.639 I hating late. It was drummed into me as a 0:02:10.720 --> 0:02:13.240 kid to not be late, so I sort of go 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.840 the other way and compensate too much. And well, what 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:17.200 I do a lot of times did I get places 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.320 and just sit in the parking lot. If there's more 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:22.880 people do that, then they would admit I go and 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:25.119 just because I don't ever want to miss the opportunity 0:02:25.120 --> 0:02:28.480 because of the easiest thing, which is being on time right. 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:32.080 And there are people that absolutely miss opportunities because they're 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.040 not on time right. So what I'll do is I 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.519 will get somewhere obnoxiously early and then just sit in 0:02:36.560 --> 0:02:41.000 my car, just just sitting there. I mean channels. But 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:43.520 when someone sees you doing that, then that's when you've 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.400 got a problem. They're like looking out there's always a 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.160 chance of looking out the window watching you just wait. Well, 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.000 offensive a house, I'll park it like the gas station 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:53.480 or a restaurant down and then I'll drive up right 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:57.120 on time. That's a good ploy. Um. I actually I 0:02:57.160 --> 0:03:00.760 don't know the late thing. You know, I've always wondered 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:02.120 I had. I used to live with a friend of 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:06.160 mine that used to our traits were that we've eventually 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:07.799 have one of those days where like, okay, let's have 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.200 a truth session because we're getting annoyed with each other. 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:11.799 Because when you live with someone for a long time, 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.640 these things start to fester. And I said, why Ay 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.440 was late for things like is it because you don't 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:20.200 have a concept of time as to what ten minutes is? 0:03:20.960 --> 0:03:23.200 Or is it because you just don't like being told 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.480 to be to do something? And she was like, it's 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:28.000 a bit of both, and she said sometimes it's like 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:31.440 it's a control thing. You want to control everything that 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.399 you're doing. I was like, well, that's great, someone's sitting 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:36.640 there waiting for you, and which is so annoying. It 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.400 always feels like a lack of respect. I think so, 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:41.520 and I feel like I'm disrespecting someone too. I'm not 0:03:41.520 --> 0:03:46.080 like I'm not respecting their time, and so like the 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.960 whole around you. That's still a control thing, Like I 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:52.120 want to control the fact that people feel like I'm dependable. 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:55.320 That's true. I just yeah, well, you want to be reliable. 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:57.160 You don't want to be like those people that if 0:03:57.200 --> 0:03:59.240 you're in need suddenly they'll be well, Lucy, we'll be here. 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.560 Don't worry. In realites, you know, you want to be 0:04:01.600 --> 0:04:03.680 someone that's going to rush over that. I'm surprised you're 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:05.720 not a really late person though, because you're so creative 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:07.600 an artis Before we went on Lucy and I were 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.680 talking about twenty minutes about you know, the cycle of music, 0:04:11.040 --> 0:04:14.280 just just generally, and I say, my mind, I have 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:17.560 very a consumer based mind. You have very artist based mind. 0:04:17.640 --> 0:04:19.960 I have both. I really think. Well, we were talking 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:22.000 like you want to create an album and let people 0:04:22.120 --> 0:04:24.920 live with it and love it, and and everyone does. 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:28.120 But I'm talking about you know the Drake I called 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.400 the Drake model where he's constantly feeding people songs one 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:32.920 at a time, one at a time, one at a time, 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:37.000 and then he'll put a record out right. And so 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.880 we got into a truth session, even truth session, and 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.440 you have too many of those. And most artists, like 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:48.280 super creative artistry people what you are, You're late, You're 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.080 one with earth. That's the only thing I'm not. I 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.440 don't take the tree huggy approach to time, like I 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.640 don't know, it's just it's every it's ways you were 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.760 brought up. My family are pretty laid back in lots 0:04:59.800 --> 0:05:02.080 of way is except for that, like if I wasn't, 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.640 you know, come down for dinner at the right time, 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:07.480 or I think my mom was to stress. She had 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.359 a nine or five job. My dad worked this to 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.440 get us to school. And I saw hell break loose 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:15.000 every morning. It was total chaos. She's trying to get 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:17.040 us to school on time. So when you see that 0:05:17.080 --> 0:05:20.040 amount of anxiety and panic all around you like, Okay, 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:21.920 I gotta be on time, I've gotta be downstairs, gonna 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.480 be ready. And I think it just stayed with me, 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:28.000 you know, And and I can't. I guess I don't 0:05:28.080 --> 0:05:31.080 like I don't. I've gotten sort of more laid back 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:33.000 about it, because when you're with huge groups of people 0:05:33.000 --> 0:05:35.560 all the time, or you're with big families, you know, 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.240 you just have to sort of just go with the flow. 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:40.560 And I've had to really learned to exhale and be like, 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.600 it's fine, it'll be fine. Well, what's exciting for me 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.360 is it like I'm a big fan of yours. And 0:05:46.440 --> 0:05:50.119 so I don't even know how we met. I think 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:59.120 we met well after Lindsay, which azing she played. That's 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.760 exactly what four hours in the street And that's when 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.400 you had first heard about me, I think, because you 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:07.640 and Charlie showed up yes together, Yeah, so I was 0:06:07.720 --> 0:06:11.400 dating Lindsay. Yeah, I love Charlie Worsham. Yeah, and you 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:14.080 were playing I said, wow, who was the girl that 0:06:14.120 --> 0:06:16.680 played because I was really kind That's what I was thinking, 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.520 what whomember that was? It was? You said, has really 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:20.560 kind of her to come out and play, let me 0:06:20.640 --> 0:06:22.480 listen to her music. And then I heard your music 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.279 and I thought, wow, like I love this, thank you. 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:28.240 And then yeah, that's where it started. You're right, yeah, 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:30.720 and she I mean, I was just do you know what. 0:06:30.760 --> 0:06:32.560 I actually can't remember how she and I met, but 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:34.280 when she asked me to do that, I thought, how 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:37.240 just this person is so dedicated to so many things. 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.480 And Charlie and I I've known. I think Charlie was 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:42.680 one of the first people I met in Nashville in 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.560 two thousand and seven, and so we just thought it 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:47.640 was such a lovely thing to do. We were like, 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:50.039 we'd love to be part of that. And then and 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:51.960 obviously I had known all about you for a long 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:56.000 time and never really thought that our pauls would necessarily 0:06:56.120 --> 0:06:59.520 collide um and I was really the day that I 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:01.320 saw you talking about let us to go. So I 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:04.480 was totally blown away by and excited by it, just 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.920 because it wasn't something I was expected. I wasn't expecting 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:15.360 that collision of work treat huh, real change from said well, yeah, 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:26.520 that was the first song that I heard Letters to go. 0:07:27.720 --> 0:07:36.920 I loved it, Nus, this is this is fine of 0:07:36.920 --> 0:07:41.360 my favorite your songs from earlier. And so what was 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:44.080 amazing to me is I didn't know villain to by 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:54.720 the way saying you Crown. You make music that I like, 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:56.880 your style of music of a style that I like, 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:59.080 and I didn't know you. And I remember going, hey, 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.120 we're playing some shows on can Saw Do you want 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.480 to come out? And it's so funny how your world 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:05.880 being interest in my world has created great friends for me, 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.480 like meeting you has because we go out and I 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:11.360 think he did wrote the bust with us, right, yeah, 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:13.720 come on, But that was one of the funniest That 0:08:13.840 --> 0:08:16.440 was so much fun. It was just so and I 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:18.640 was nervous because you know, I only just met you 0:08:18.800 --> 0:08:22.520 previous to that, hadn't met Nikita before. Hann was bringing Brandon, 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:24.720 who I really didn't know very well. He was just 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:28.080 I was like still at all either, right, and yet 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.000 it was just so relaxed and so cool. When you're 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:34.760 sleeping in close proximity to basically strangers, it's like that 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:37.480 opens up a whole can of worms that could be 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:39.720 you know a million things, and I just had so 0:08:39.800 --> 0:08:42.440 much fun. I felt so relaxed. It was brilliant for 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.760 me because so many things as an artist or not relaxed, 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:50.040 and in that kind of environment I didn't expect to 0:08:50.080 --> 0:08:52.600 be because I didn't know anybody, and you didn't expect 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.160 for us to be nice or expectually be nice. I 0:08:55.200 --> 0:08:57.400 didn't expect it to be as chilled as it was 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:01.600 because you're just mixing people together that I've never been 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.480 on a bus with people from radio before anything, you 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:06.479 know what I mean. It's just something i'd never experienced, 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:08.520 and I hadn't spent much time with you. I knew 0:09:08.559 --> 0:09:10.600 that you were fun and everything I knew Eddie was fun, 0:09:10.920 --> 0:09:13.160 but really a group of people on a bus I 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.560 was like. And also, I can get really socially anxious 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:20.000 with different things, even though people don't seem to know 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.319 that about me. I never seemed to be, but internally 0:09:22.360 --> 0:09:25.320 I'm going through a whole snakes and ladders of scenarios. 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:27.880 Remember the first time you played I watched your live 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.240 I was like, man, like, you're really good life, like 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:33.560 your this doesn't do your live performance justice. And you 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:36.560 were playing with Brandon Brandy came and played guitar with you. Yeah, 0:09:36.760 --> 0:09:38.400 I thought, man, I'm a fan, and so I would 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:39.760 just wait for you to put a musicount. I would 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.720 just wait. And then we became friends because we would 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.000 we This is one of the relationships that I've kept 0:09:46.040 --> 0:09:49.800 somewhat like friendship relationships, and we still communicate. And uh, 0:09:50.880 --> 0:09:52.480 we went to dinner and I didn't know your story 0:09:52.480 --> 0:09:53.920 because I know how you moved to America. I don't 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:55.600 know you were big in the UK. I don't know anything. 0:09:55.600 --> 0:09:57.720 If you had accent, I don't know what accent was wrong. 0:09:57.760 --> 0:10:00.960 I don't know anything on the accents. Confused, and then 0:10:01.240 --> 0:10:02.920 it's so weird to sit with someone and they started 0:10:02.920 --> 0:10:05.400 asking them really personal questions. So in this environment, I 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.200 can ask all I want forsake of my people hearing 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:11.880 knowing about it. So you moved You moved in Nashville, Win, 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:14.199 I moved here. I mean, it is crazy. Do you 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.560 know everyone feels like they've had about ten lives. I 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.040 really feel like I've had those, and I've never they've 0:10:19.160 --> 0:10:22.880 They've kept weirdly separate, so it's it's strange. The first 0:10:22.920 --> 0:10:24.640 time I came here was in two thousand and seven, 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.000 and it was with my friend John Green, who was 0:10:27.160 --> 0:10:30.280 childhood buddies. I grew up with him. He just had 0:10:30.320 --> 0:10:34.000 been coming to Nashville, and i'd i'd grown up with 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:38.120 some country music that you know, nineties country actually wasn't 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.640 something that was that familiar to me. It was older country, 0:10:40.679 --> 0:10:43.720 and it was but i'd never I'd heard things about 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.360 Nashville and in two thousand and seven it is a 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.600 very different place than it is now. And I came 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:51.920 and I ended up staying five weeks the first trip 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:56.080 I was here. Um just I don't know. I can't 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:57.800 even remember how it happened. As in a restaurant, I 0:10:57.880 --> 0:11:01.360 met Barry Dean, I met Busby, I'm at Darryl Franklin. 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:04.080 I met like just a bunch of people that and 0:11:04.120 --> 0:11:07.840 Troy Virgins as well, a bunch of people that I 0:11:07.880 --> 0:11:10.200 would call some of the closest friends to me now. 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:13.800 And I just I couldn't believe this place. It was 0:11:13.840 --> 0:11:16.400 coming off the back of a time when I was 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.200 coming out of my record deal with Universal. I was 0:11:19.679 --> 0:11:21.240 just the UK record deal then, or was it a 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.320 worldwide It was a world wide deal, but we just 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:26.920 never got to America. We just never I toured Europe extensively. 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.720 We honed in there. I never really got a chance 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.679 to come over here. I don't even think they released 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:35.360 music over here. So where were you biggest before? In 0:11:35.400 --> 0:11:38.760 the UK? It was the UK, but weirdly enough, Spain 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.839 and Holland and places like that it was. And why 0:11:42.679 --> 0:11:45.040 I have no idea, Like I I used to ask 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:48.160 those questions. I'd be like, is this a language barrier? 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.120 Or why do they why do they like this music? 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.880 And I toured a lot over there, and I remember 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.320 going there and it was even when we went to 0:11:55.400 --> 0:11:57.840 tener Reef. We decided was like, this is so crazy. 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.240 They're putting a gig in tenor Reef. So like these 0:12:00.880 --> 0:12:04.000 just like on the coast of Spain, and so I 0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:07.240 was like, I was like, cool, you know, rehearse go 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:09.679 there and then we d I swear to god, this 0:12:09.720 --> 0:12:12.280 is a true story. So driving along and there's this 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:16.440 road of ten ambulances, police cars, there's barriers, there's a 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:19.839 and I looked around, I was like, what's going on here? 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.480 And then when it's your show and I was like 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:28.520 why what? I was like, I didn't understand how it 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:30.760 was such a big deal. And I knew that there 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:32.000 was going to be it was going to be a 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:34.160 relatively big show, but I didn't know it was going 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:35.640 to be as big as it was. And it was 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:38.120 like six thousand people, which for me was really big 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:42.160 at the time. I'dn't even you know, right for an artist, 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.240 there's my kind of music. And they went back all 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.720 the way to the ocean, and I just remember thinking, 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:49.760 I don't think I really understood what was going on 0:12:50.200 --> 0:12:55.800 because I just never paid attention to it. I never 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.800 I don't know, I was like doing headlights that whole time. 0:13:00.080 --> 0:13:02.320 Never I played first big gig, I played in England 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:05.400 with shepherds Bush Empire. And remember even thinking then I 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:09.000 didn't really understand the process that I was in, Like 0:13:09.040 --> 0:13:12.160 how did I get here? Because I was so young, 0:13:12.240 --> 0:13:14.640 and I also didn't get to grow the way that 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:18.600 I've gotten to grow here. How So, I was nineteen 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.360 when I signed my first record deal with the m 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.400 I three years nothing ever came out, gone, and then 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.079 swore off record companies for the rest of my life. 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:31.120 And then you know, weird, twisty story, I signed to 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:34.720 Universal when I was twenty four and with the idea 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:38.320 to what kind of music it's not that different to 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.280 what I'm doing now, just a younger version. But it 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:42.679 was very sick. I'd say it was very safe and 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:46.440 very sweet. It was had all my influences of people 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:48.760 like Fleetwood Mac and whether they signed you to be 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:50.840 signed you to be like because you know in the 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.400 record deal that it's always okay, we want to sign 0:13:53.400 --> 0:13:56.880 this person because they can do this. What could you do? 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.720 This is? This was the funny thing. I don't think 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.440 that anyone thought it was even going to work because, 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.640 quite honestly, because I was a girl playing the piano, 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:08.920 the only things that were out there there was Delta 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:11.680 Good Room. So it was an Australian. She had been 0:14:11.720 --> 0:14:14.320 on a TV show in Australia, had a huge single 0:14:14.520 --> 0:14:18.280 and she was sort of huge in Australia already, and 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:22.160 but I don't think I also signed to a really 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:26.040 small label within Universal it went under and then Steve 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:28.680 lilly White, who I was a fan of for all 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.240 the music he had done, said, you know when you 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.680 need to come in and see me and see Lucy 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:37.000 and Grange and play your music for him. And because 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.440 there's something special about the songs you write that you 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:42.920 shouldn't be on this label. You should be on Mercury 0:14:42.960 --> 0:14:45.400 and do that. So I did, and I remember even thinking, 0:14:45.440 --> 0:14:47.960 and I went into Lucian's office and I was so clear, 0:14:48.160 --> 0:14:50.280 You've got to remember that. It's not like Nashville when 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:54.520 I didn't know any other artists. I never met any 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:59.080 You have people that you go, Okay, that's what a 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:03.360 radio tour look like. That's what being an artist looks like. 0:15:03.760 --> 0:15:06.360 When you're in your bedroom or you're in your house 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.240 writing songs and you've been a studio maybe once before, 0:15:09.280 --> 0:15:11.360 and you've never been on the road. And I was 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:13.560 a backing singer for a few years when it was 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.040 like that was like jazz clubs. That was small clubs 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.760 over the UK. Suddenly, when I was thrown into the 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:22.760 music industry, I had nothing to go on. Suddenly there's 0:15:22.760 --> 0:15:25.320 a radio team and a marketing team and your photo 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:28.200 shoot and you do a video. And it was the 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:30.880 craziest thing to me. It was when I see people 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.520 fall into it so easily. I'm always like, wow, that's 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:37.560 amazing that they're so young, and they seemed to just 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:40.680 fall in as if it's second nature. I definitely was 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:42.920 not like that. So you're in the UK, what was 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:45.160 your biggest song. It was a song called what You're 0:15:45.200 --> 0:15:47.440 Made Of. It was a ballad. Came out in two 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:50.160 thousand and four, and this is the crazy thing is 0:15:50.200 --> 0:15:52.520 that Facebook was starting that year, so before we just 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:55.240 had like MySpace and stuff like that, we had such 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:59.240 a different way of becoming known, and all I knew was, well, 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.160 we have to get on the radio. I really don't 0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.160 think anyone thought that it would do what it did. 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.480 And then even the day that it was I was 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:09.040 getting my chart position because in England, you know, you 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:11.560 release it in the week, the next week you get 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:15.040 your position, and I didn't want to answer the phone 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:18.800 to my manager because I'd already been through a lot 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:22.240 with record labels. So I was just trying to keep 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:25.120 my head out of I'm going to make this museum 0:16:25.160 --> 0:16:26.440 and to go out there, but I'm not going to 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:29.440 pay attention to what it's doing. Obviously, you can't do that. 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:31.840 You have to do And they said your number six, 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:35.240 and I was like, to me, that was crazy. I 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.840 just don't think I expected because it was a ballad 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:40.640 amidst some really really different music in the charts at 0:16:40.640 --> 0:16:42.720 the time, It's not something that was going to be 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.160 played on radio one where fat Boy Slim was being 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.400 played and all this stuff. I was like a girl 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:51.000 at the piano playing a ballad coming out of nowhere, 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:56.080 and so where did it peak? Picked? It peaked at six, 0:16:56.280 --> 0:16:59.720 and then the album went in at eleven. How how 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.720 unknown does that make you known? In Europe? You know, 0:17:02.720 --> 0:17:05.679 if you have a typed in song. I think it 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:08.199 depends what's going on in that moment. It depends what 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:11.560 other artists are out at that time. I feel like 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:14.800 it took a minute by the time I released my 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:18.359 second single, which was an uptempo song called Breathing that 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:21.240 also went to number six, and again I was shocked 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:23.760 about that as well, just because I was this music 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:25.600 was so different than what was going on. I was like, 0:17:25.640 --> 0:17:28.560 how is this finding its way through? You know? And 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:30.679 you shocked at all the success, like all the big thing. 0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:32.639 I was shocked, not because I don't love it and 0:17:32.680 --> 0:17:35.640 I don't believe in it. It's just because I think 0:17:35.720 --> 0:17:38.679 I got such a hard knock when I first I 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.960 was a clueless girl thinking, you know, skipping along going 0:17:42.000 --> 0:17:44.679 everything's great. You you make music, then you signed a 0:17:44.680 --> 0:17:46.560 record deal, then you're famous. You know what I mean? 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:49.520 When you don't know anything and then suddenly three years 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.879 being signed to the same people and then being dropped, 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:55.640 your suddenly get a hard reality check and you're like, oh, 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:58.760 this isn't quite as it isn't quite as smooth as 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:00.520 I thought it would be. And then it was a 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.199 good reality check for me. The crazy thing for me 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:07.159 is that we were talking about your career and you 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.440 brought up the Metallic a song. Nothing else matters because 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:19.919 you cut this, so but this is but you cut it? 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.919 So who who played this? Where did it go? This is? 0:18:23.400 --> 0:18:25.480 This was an amazing thing. I only cut it because 0:18:25.520 --> 0:18:29.520 my sister Mia wanted me to cut it, and because I, 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:31.960 you know, grew up on prominently other types of music. 0:18:32.000 --> 0:18:33.679 And I love the song and I thought, you know what, 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:35.960 I can play this on piano. This is a beautiful song, 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:39.520 even though and I didn't expect it to have any 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:42.080 focus on it, because I just put it on the 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:44.760 album just as something I liked. And then I think 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:47.080 the record labels around Europe, we're like, we're going to 0:18:47.160 --> 0:18:49.200 put this out, we want to do a video. I'd 0:18:49.200 --> 0:18:53.040 recorded Abbey Road with a thirty two piece orchestra. That 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.760 was dream stuff for me. I was in that studio 0:18:56.200 --> 0:18:58.680 watching this orchestra sign them of it, going this is 0:18:58.800 --> 0:19:00.520 what dreams are made of, This is the kind of 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:02.240 music I want to make for the rest of my life. 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:04.520 And its processed up with a Metallica song. Did you 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:06.159 reach out to anybody in that camp or do you 0:19:06.200 --> 0:19:08.520 just cut it? We We had to reach out to 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:11.320 them because I didn't speak to them personally, but you 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:14.040 had because I had changed it slightly, So I think 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:17.760 that's kind of an infringement on their copyright as to 0:19:17.800 --> 0:19:19.920 how they originally did it. So we had to reach out. 0:19:19.960 --> 0:19:22.399 But they heard it and they liked it, and I 0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:24.840 was really pumped about that. I was like, even though 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.440 I probably made a few Metallica fans mad, I think, 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:29.800 oh yeah, did you get that? Did you ever? Fans 0:19:29.800 --> 0:19:33.040 are upset? Yeah, very upset, And I was like, obviously 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:35.399 didn't understand the weight of it. They there was people 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:37.160 even when I went to do a gig in Denmark, 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:39.840 I went on stage and there was a few a 0:19:39.880 --> 0:19:42.320 few booze out there because they didn't like my cover. 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:44.760 So it was such it was like a religion to them, 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.120 that music. So this song, what did it do? Did 0:19:47.160 --> 0:19:49.760 it went? It went to number one? It was a 0:19:49.880 --> 0:19:52.840