1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome to episode one, one four of the Bobby 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Cast one four Team for me is exciting because I'm 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: a legitimate fan of Lucy Silva's her music first and 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: her as a person's second. And we've been waiting to 5 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: get her in for a while. And so we we 6 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: talked about you're gonna hear we talk about she has 7 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: a new record coming in August. Now you might hear 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: this after August. But this is fun for me. Let 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: me also say that a couple of things. One a 10 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: couple of podcasts you can check out. Jake Owen has 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: one called Good Company. There's a new one from Velvet's Edge. 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: Kelley Henderson is a stylist. She does hair and makeup 13 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: and then they call it grooming right yeah, for Dirk's 14 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: and Al Deane and she stopping styles me for big 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 1: things I can't afford all the time style. She just 16 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: head on justin tumber Legs podcast. So yeah, so that's 17 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: her area. So if you're into fashion and styles and 18 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: fashion styles, live styles, yeah, check out the Velvet's Edge podcast. 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: Because also the guys from well, there's Christian Bush. We 20 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: already mentioned that one or now okay, and there's the 21 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: guys from Whiskey Riff Whiskey Riff Raff. Okay, cool, there's that. 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm on the road. Come and watch me do stand 23 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: up on my Red Hoodie comedy tour. If you're in 24 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: which show falls Texas or Charleston, South Carolina or Tampa, Florida, 25 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: come out Otherwise, Here we go, Episode one fourteen with 26 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: one of my favorite people. She's nicer than even she 27 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: seems in this podcast, and she seems super nice in 28 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: the podcast. Here is Lucy Silva's All right, Welcome to 29 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: the Bobby Cast with Lucy Silva's I do think you're 30 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: probably the most talked about guests overall. We've done over 31 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: a hundred episodes, and forever it was I'm gonna wait 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: and bring Lucy end because we know each other, and 33 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: it's weird for me to interview and talk to someone 34 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: that I know because you came toament Us early and 35 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: we hung out downstairs. I'm always annoyingly early, me too 36 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: uncomfortably for other people, are uncomfortably for other people, But 37 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 1: I hating late. It was drummed into me as a 38 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: kid to not be late, so I sort of go 39 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: the other way and compensate too much. And well, what 40 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: I do a lot of times did I get places 41 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: and just sit in the parking lot. If there's more 42 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: people do that, then they would admit I go and 43 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,119 Speaker 1: just because I don't ever want to miss the opportunity 44 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: because of the easiest thing, which is being on time right. 45 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: And there are people that absolutely miss opportunities because they're 46 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: not on time right. So what I'll do is I 47 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,519 Speaker 1: will get somewhere obnoxiously early and then just sit in 48 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: my car, just just sitting there. I mean channels. But 49 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: when someone sees you doing that, then that's when you've 50 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: got a problem. They're like looking out there's always a 51 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: chance of looking out the window watching you just wait. Well, 52 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: offensive a house, I'll park it like the gas station 53 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: or a restaurant down and then I'll drive up right 54 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: on time. That's a good ploy. Um. I actually I 55 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: don't know the late thing. You know, I've always wondered 56 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: I had. I used to live with a friend of 57 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: mine that used to our traits were that we've eventually 58 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: have one of those days where like, okay, let's have 59 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 1: a truth session because we're getting annoyed with each other. 60 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:11,799 Speaker 1: Because when you live with someone for a long time, 61 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 1: these things start to fester. And I said, why Ay 62 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: was late for things like is it because you don't 63 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: have a concept of time as to what ten minutes is? 64 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: Or is it because you just don't like being told 65 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: to be to do something? And she was like, it's 66 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: a bit of both, and she said sometimes it's like 67 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: it's a control thing. You want to control everything that 68 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 1: you're doing. I was like, well, that's great, someone's sitting 69 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: there waiting for you, and which is so annoying. It 70 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: always feels like a lack of respect. I think so, 71 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm disrespecting someone too. I'm not 72 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: like I'm not respecting their time, and so like the 73 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: whole around you. That's still a control thing, Like I 74 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: want to control the fact that people feel like I'm dependable. 75 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: That's true. I just yeah, well, you want to be reliable. 76 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: You don't want to be like those people that if 77 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: you're in need suddenly they'll be well, Lucy, we'll be here. 78 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 1: Don't worry. In realites, you know, you want to be 79 00:04:01,600 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: someone that's going to rush over that. I'm surprised you're 80 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: not a really late person though, because you're so creative 81 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: an artis Before we went on Lucy and I were 82 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: talking about twenty minutes about you know, the cycle of music, 83 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: just just generally, and I say, my mind, I have 84 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: very a consumer based mind. You have very artist based mind. 85 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: I have both. I really think. Well, we were talking 86 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: like you want to create an album and let people 87 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: live with it and love it, and and everyone does. 88 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 1: But I'm talking about you know the Drake I called 89 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 1: the Drake model where he's constantly feeding people songs one 90 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: at a time, one at a time, one at a time, 91 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: and then he'll put a record out right. And so 92 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: we got into a truth session, even truth session, and 93 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: you have too many of those. And most artists, like 94 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: super creative artistry people what you are, You're late, You're 95 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: one with earth. That's the only thing I'm not. I 96 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: don't take the tree huggy approach to time, like I 97 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: don't know, it's just it's every it's ways you were 98 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: brought up. My family are pretty laid back in lots 99 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: of way is except for that, like if I wasn't, 100 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, come down for dinner at the right time, 101 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: or I think my mom was to stress. She had 102 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: a nine or five job. My dad worked this to 103 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: get us to school. And I saw hell break loose 104 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: every morning. It was total chaos. She's trying to get 105 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: us to school on time. So when you see that 106 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:20,040 Speaker 1: amount of anxiety and panic all around you like, Okay, 107 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: I gotta be on time, I've gotta be downstairs, gonna 108 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: be ready. And I think it just stayed with me, 109 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: you know, And and I can't. I guess I don't 110 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: like I don't. I've gotten sort of more laid back 111 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: about it, because when you're with huge groups of people 112 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: all the time, or you're with big families, you know, 113 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: you just have to sort of just go with the flow. 114 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: And I've had to really learned to exhale and be like, 115 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 1: it's fine, it'll be fine. Well, what's exciting for me 116 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: is it like I'm a big fan of yours. And 117 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:50,119 Speaker 1: so I don't even know how we met. I think 118 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: we met well after Lindsay, which azing she played. That's 119 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: exactly what four hours in the street And that's when 120 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: you had first heard about me, I think, because you 121 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: and Charlie showed up yes together, Yeah, so I was 122 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: dating Lindsay. Yeah, I love Charlie Worsham. Yeah, and you 123 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: were playing I said, wow, who was the girl that 124 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: played because I was really kind That's what I was thinking, 125 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: what whomember that was? It was? You said, has really 126 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: kind of her to come out and play, let me 127 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: listen to her music. And then I heard your music 128 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: and I thought, wow, like I love this, thank you. 129 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: And then yeah, that's where it started. You're right, yeah, 130 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: and she I mean, I was just do you know what. 131 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: I actually can't remember how she and I met, but 132 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: when she asked me to do that, I thought, how 133 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: just this person is so dedicated to so many things. 134 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: And Charlie and I I've known. I think Charlie was 135 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: one of the first people I met in Nashville in 136 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, and so we just thought it 137 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: was such a lovely thing to do. We were like, 138 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: we'd love to be part of that. And then and 139 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: obviously I had known all about you for a long 140 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: time and never really thought that our pauls would necessarily 141 00:06:56,120 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 1: collide um and I was really the day that I 142 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: saw you talking about let us to go. So I 143 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: was totally blown away by and excited by it, just 144 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: because it wasn't something I was expected. I wasn't expecting 145 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: that collision of work treat huh, real change from said well, yeah, 146 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: that was the first song that I heard Letters to go. 147 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: I loved it, Nus, this is this is fine of 148 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: my favorite your songs from earlier. And so what was 149 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: amazing to me is I didn't know villain to by 150 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: the way saying you Crown. You make music that I like, 151 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: your style of music of a style that I like, 152 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: and I didn't know you. And I remember going, hey, 153 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: we're playing some shows on can Saw Do you want 154 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: to come out? And it's so funny how your world 155 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: being interest in my world has created great friends for me, 156 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: like meeting you has because we go out and I 157 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 1: think he did wrote the bust with us, right, yeah, 158 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: come on, But that was one of the funniest That 159 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 1: was so much fun. It was just so and I 160 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: was nervous because you know, I only just met you 161 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: previous to that, hadn't met Nikita before. Hann was bringing Brandon, 162 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 1: who I really didn't know very well. He was just 163 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: I was like still at all either, right, and yet 164 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: it was just so relaxed and so cool. When you're 165 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: sleeping in close proximity to basically strangers, it's like that 166 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: opens up a whole can of worms that could be 167 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: you know a million things, and I just had so 168 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:42,440 Speaker 1: much fun. I felt so relaxed. It was brilliant for 169 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 1: me because so many things as an artist or not relaxed, 170 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: and in that kind of environment I didn't expect to 171 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: be because I didn't know anybody, and you didn't expect 172 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: for us to be nice or expectually be nice. I 173 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: didn't expect it to be as chilled as it was 174 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: because you're just mixing people together that I've never been 175 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: on a bus with people from radio before anything, you 176 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,479 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's just something i'd never experienced, 177 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: and I hadn't spent much time with you. I knew 178 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: that you were fun and everything I knew Eddie was fun, 179 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: but really a group of people on a bus I 180 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: was like. And also, I can get really socially anxious 181 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 1: with different things, even though people don't seem to know 182 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,319 Speaker 1: that about me. I never seemed to be, but internally 183 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: I'm going through a whole snakes and ladders of scenarios. 184 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: Remember the first time you played I watched your live 185 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: I was like, man, like, you're really good life, like 186 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: your this doesn't do your live performance justice. And you 187 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: were playing with Brandon Brandy came and played guitar with you. Yeah, 188 00:09:36,760 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: I thought, man, I'm a fan, and so I would 189 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: just wait for you to put a musicount. I would 190 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: just wait. And then we became friends because we would 191 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 1: we This is one of the relationships that I've kept 192 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: somewhat like friendship relationships, and we still communicate. And uh, 193 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: we went to dinner and I didn't know your story 194 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: because I know how you moved to America. I don't 195 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: know you were big in the UK. I don't know anything. 196 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: If you had accent, I don't know what accent was wrong. 197 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: I don't know anything on the accents. Confused, and then 198 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: it's so weird to sit with someone and they started 199 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: asking them really personal questions. So in this environment, I 200 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: can ask all I want forsake of my people hearing 201 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: knowing about it. So you moved You moved in Nashville, Win, 202 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: I moved here. I mean, it is crazy. Do you 203 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 1: know everyone feels like they've had about ten lives. I 204 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: really feel like I've had those, and I've never they've 205 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 1: They've kept weirdly separate, so it's it's strange. The first 206 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: time I came here was in two thousand and seven, 207 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: and it was with my friend John Green, who was 208 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: childhood buddies. I grew up with him. He just had 209 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: been coming to Nashville, and i'd i'd grown up with 210 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: some country music that you know, nineties country actually wasn't 211 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: something that was that familiar to me. It was older country, 212 00:10:40,679 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: and it was but i'd never I'd heard things about 213 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: Nashville and in two thousand and seven it is a 214 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: very different place than it is now. And I came 215 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: and I ended up staying five weeks the first trip 216 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: I was here. Um just I don't know. I can't 217 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: even remember how it happened. As in a restaurant, I 218 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: met Barry Dean, I met Busby, I'm at Darryl Franklin. 219 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: I met like just a bunch of people that and 220 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: Troy Virgins as well, a bunch of people that I 221 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: would call some of the closest friends to me now. 222 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: And I just I couldn't believe this place. It was 223 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: coming off the back of a time when I was 224 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: coming out of my record deal with Universal. I was 225 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: just the UK record deal then, or was it a 226 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: worldwide It was a world wide deal, but we just 227 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: never got to America. We just never I toured Europe extensively. 228 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 1: We honed in there. I never really got a chance 229 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 1: to come over here. I don't even think they released 230 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: music over here. So where were you biggest before? In 231 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: the UK? It was the UK, but weirdly enough, Spain 232 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,839 Speaker 1: and Holland and places like that it was. And why 233 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: I have no idea, Like I I used to ask 234 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: those questions. I'd be like, is this a language barrier? 235 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: Or why do they why do they like this music? 236 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: And I toured a lot over there, and I remember 237 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: going there and it was even when we went to 238 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: tener Reef. We decided was like, this is so crazy. 239 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: They're putting a gig in tenor Reef. So like these 240 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: just like on the coast of Spain, and so I 241 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: was like, I was like, cool, you know, rehearse go 242 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: there and then we d I swear to god, this 243 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: is a true story. So driving along and there's this 244 00:12:12,400 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: road of ten ambulances, police cars, there's barriers, there's a 245 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 1: and I looked around, I was like, what's going on here? 246 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: And then when it's your show and I was like 247 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: why what? I was like, I didn't understand how it 248 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: was such a big deal. And I knew that there 249 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: was going to be it was going to be a 250 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: relatively big show, but I didn't know it was going 251 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: to be as big as it was. And it was 252 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: like six thousand people, which for me was really big 253 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: at the time. I'dn't even you know, right for an artist, 254 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: there's my kind of music. And they went back all 255 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 1: the way to the ocean, and I just remember thinking, 256 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: I don't think I really understood what was going on 257 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: because I just never paid attention to it. I never 258 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, I was like doing headlights that whole time. 259 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: Never I played first big gig, I played in England 260 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: with shepherds Bush Empire. And remember even thinking then I 261 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: didn't really understand the process that I was in, Like 262 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: how did I get here? Because I was so young, 263 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: and I also didn't get to grow the way that 264 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: I've gotten to grow here. How So, I was nineteen 265 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 1: when I signed my first record deal with the m 266 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: I three years nothing ever came out, gone, and then 267 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: swore off record companies for the rest of my life. 268 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 1: And then you know, weird, twisty story, I signed to 269 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: Universal when I was twenty four and with the idea 270 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 1: to what kind of music it's not that different to 271 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: what I'm doing now, just a younger version. But it 272 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,679 Speaker 1: was very sick. I'd say it was very safe and 273 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 1: very sweet. It was had all my influences of people 274 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: like Fleetwood Mac and whether they signed you to be 275 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: signed you to be like because you know in the 276 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: record deal that it's always okay, we want to sign 277 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: this person because they can do this. What could you do? 278 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: This is? This was the funny thing. I don't think 279 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 1: that anyone thought it was even going to work because, 280 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: quite honestly, because I was a girl playing the piano, 281 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 1: the only things that were out there there was Delta 282 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: Good Room. So it was an Australian. She had been 283 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: on a TV show in Australia, had a huge single 284 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: and she was sort of huge in Australia already, and 285 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: but I don't think I also signed to a really 286 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: small label within Universal it went under and then Steve 287 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: lilly White, who I was a fan of for all 288 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: the music he had done, said, you know when you 289 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: need to come in and see me and see Lucy 290 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: and Grange and play your music for him. And because 291 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: there's something special about the songs you write that you 292 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: shouldn't be on this label. You should be on Mercury 293 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: and do that. So I did, and I remember even thinking, 294 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: and I went into Lucian's office and I was so clear, 295 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: You've got to remember that. It's not like Nashville when 296 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: I didn't know any other artists. I never met any 297 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 1: You have people that you go, Okay, that's what a 298 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 1: radio tour look like. That's what being an artist looks like. 299 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: When you're in your bedroom or you're in your house 300 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: writing songs and you've been a studio maybe once before, 301 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: and you've never been on the road. And I was 302 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: a backing singer for a few years when it was 303 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: like that was like jazz clubs. That was small clubs 304 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: over the UK. Suddenly, when I was thrown into the 305 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: music industry, I had nothing to go on. Suddenly there's 306 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 1: a radio team and a marketing team and your photo 307 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,200 Speaker 1: shoot and you do a video. And it was the 308 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: craziest thing to me. It was when I see people 309 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: fall into it so easily. I'm always like, wow, that's 310 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: amazing that they're so young, and they seemed to just 311 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: fall in as if it's second nature. I definitely was 312 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: not like that. So you're in the UK, what was 313 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: your biggest song. It was a song called what You're 314 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: Made Of. It was a ballad. Came out in two 315 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: thousand and four, and this is the crazy thing is 316 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: that Facebook was starting that year, so before we just 317 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: had like MySpace and stuff like that, we had such 318 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: a different way of becoming known, and all I knew was, well, 319 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,160 Speaker 1: we have to get on the radio. I really don't 320 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: think anyone thought that it would do what it did. 321 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: And then even the day that it was I was 322 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: getting my chart position because in England, you know, you 323 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: release it in the week, the next week you get 324 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: your position, and I didn't want to answer the phone 325 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: to my manager because I'd already been through a lot 326 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: with record labels. So I was just trying to keep 327 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: my head out of I'm going to make this museum 328 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: and to go out there, but I'm not going to 329 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: pay attention to what it's doing. Obviously, you can't do that. 330 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: You have to do And they said your number six, 331 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: and I was like, to me, that was crazy. I 332 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: just don't think I expected because it was a ballad 333 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: amidst some really really different music in the charts at 334 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: the time, It's not something that was going to be 335 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: played on radio one where fat Boy Slim was being 336 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: played and all this stuff. I was like a girl 337 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: at the piano playing a ballad coming out of nowhere, 338 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: and so where did it peak? Picked? It peaked at six, 339 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: and then the album went in at eleven. How how 340 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: unknown does that make you known? In Europe? You know, 341 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 1: if you have a typed in song. I think it 342 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: depends what's going on in that moment. It depends what 343 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: other artists are out at that time. I feel like 344 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: it took a minute by the time I released my 345 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,359 Speaker 1: second single, which was an uptempo song called Breathing that 346 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: also went to number six, and again I was shocked 347 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 1: about that as well, just because I was this music 348 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: was so different than what was going on. I was like, 349 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: how is this finding its way through? You know? And 350 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 1: you shocked at all the success, like all the big thing. 351 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 1: I was shocked, not because I don't love it and 352 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 1: I don't believe in it. It's just because I think 353 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 1: I got such a hard knock when I first I 354 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: was a clueless girl thinking, you know, skipping along going 355 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: everything's great. You you make music, then you signed a 356 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: record deal, then you're famous. You know what I mean? 357 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: When you don't know anything and then suddenly three years 358 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: being signed to the same people and then being dropped, 359 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: your suddenly get a hard reality check and you're like, oh, 360 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: this isn't quite as it isn't quite as smooth as 361 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: I thought it would be. And then it was a 362 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: good reality check for me. The crazy thing for me 363 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: is that we were talking about your career and you 364 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: brought up the Metallic a song. Nothing else matters because 365 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: you cut this, so but this is but you cut it? 366 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: So who who played this? Where did it go? This is? 367 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: This was an amazing thing. I only cut it because 368 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: my sister Mia wanted me to cut it, and because I, 369 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: you know, grew up on prominently other types of music. 370 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 1: And I love the song and I thought, you know what, 371 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: I can play this on piano. This is a beautiful song, 372 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: even though and I didn't expect it to have any 373 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: focus on it, because I just put it on the 374 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,760 Speaker 1: album just as something I liked. And then I think 375 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: the record labels around Europe, we're like, we're going to 376 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: put this out, we want to do a video. I'd 377 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: recorded Abbey Road with a thirty two piece orchestra. That 378 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: was dream stuff for me. I was in that studio 379 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 1: watching this orchestra sign them of it, going this is 380 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: what dreams are made of, This is the kind of 381 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: music I want to make for the rest of my life. 382 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: And its processed up with a Metallica song. Did you 383 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: reach out to anybody in that camp or do you 384 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: just cut it? We We had to reach out to 385 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: them because I didn't speak to them personally, but you 386 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: had because I had changed it slightly, So I think 387 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: that's kind of an infringement on their copyright as to 388 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,920 Speaker 1: how they originally did it. So we had to reach out. 389 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: But they heard it and they liked it, and I 390 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: was really pumped about that. I was like, even though 391 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: I probably made a few Metallica fans mad, I think, 392 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,800 Speaker 1: oh yeah, did you get that? Did you ever? Fans 393 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: are upset? Yeah, very upset, And I was like, obviously 394 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: didn't understand the weight of it. They there was people 395 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: even when I went to do a gig in Denmark, 396 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: I went on stage and there was a few a 397 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: few booze out there because they didn't like my cover. 398 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: So it was such it was like a religion to them, 399 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,120 Speaker 1: that music. So this song, what did it do? Did 400 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 1: it went? It went to number one? It was a 401 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 1: number one. It was a number one in certain countries, 402 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 1: but it's not not not in the UK. Didn't come 403 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: out as a single country number one. I think it 404 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: was Spain. Yeah, but it's crazy. It was something, honestly, 405 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: I didn't expect because it was a cover, and you know, 406 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 1: as a songwriter, you think you don't even think you're 407 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: gonna put covers out. There's a single and um, but 408 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 1: we did a video. We shot the video in New 409 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: Jersey and that was an amazing experience, like just we 410 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: had a grand piano on top of the railroad tracks 411 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: and it was all very grand. It was just it 412 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: was pretty it was it was pretty amazing. Really, did 413 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 1: you find that people didn't know the Metallica song and 414 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: just thought it was a song that you had written 415 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,400 Speaker 1: or you had put on a record, And then they're like, oh, 416 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,239 Speaker 1: I didn't even know it was a cover, right, It's 417 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: quite possible a lot of people that weren't necessarily hardcore 418 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 1: Metallica fans or weren't necessarily aware. I mean, it was 419 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: such a huge song for them, so but there's a 420 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: it was another generation of people that got to hear 421 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: it in a different way. And there's actually been a 422 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: few covers of this song. I'm not the only cover 423 00:20:55,960 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: of it, and um they I mean it just it 424 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 1: just opened up. I thought, this is such a beautiful song. 425 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: It actually fits with my music in the way that 426 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: I write ballads and and I was pleased for that. 427 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: I was pleased in another genre. It had its moment 428 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: and it crazy to me. I love that story. Thank you. 429 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: Let talking about Blue Apron for a second. Paid the 430 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: bills here were six weeks April sixteen through May one. 431 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: Blue Apron is teaming with Airbnb to bring you the 432 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: best home cooking from around the world each week. 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All there to 458 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: think if I can't cook, so I know how to cook. 459 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,520 Speaker 1: When it tells you exactly what to do, everyone could cook. 460 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,439 Speaker 1: I can tell you the easiest things to do and 461 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 1: you'd be everyone can cook. I love cooking. I'm not amazing. 462 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: I don't do like crazy gourmet meals, but I like, 463 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 1: you know, a chicken cast role, which I've realized that 464 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: cast role is not the same thing in England as 465 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: it is in America. So whatever it is here, it's 466 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: like soup or stew here. Apparently apparently what I make 467 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: is a soup, but I think it's a casserole. A 468 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: cast role here is not a soup. It's in a 469 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: hash brown castle. Yeah right, I learned that it's a 470 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: Southern thing, a very southern. Okay, Well in England it's 471 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: like that's real pub food, like gastro pub food where 472 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: you get cast role or stew or beef and ale pies. 473 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: Now I'm really starving. So you were born in New 474 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 1: Zealand and I was born in England. So I was 475 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 1: born in England. I went to New Zealand when I 476 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 1: was a little kid, and actually, weirdly enough, my family, 477 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: a lot of my family, my whole immediate family lived 478 00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 1: there now, but my dad spent a portion of his 479 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: childhood in New Zealand as well. So and my family's 480 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: huge two brothers married two sisters, so someone that way 481 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: somewhere that way. My mom too. My mom and her 482 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: sister married two brothers. You're the only person I've ever 483 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,880 Speaker 1: heard of doing that. Wow, that's so. That means all 484 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: your family is the same, like saying you're a double cousin. 485 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: Double cousins, and I mean so many cousins, some of 486 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: which I mean you go to a you know, one 487 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: of those family events. This is your cousin, This is 488 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: your cousin, This is your cousin, which one like fourth, cousin, fifth, 489 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: There's a lot of them. And so you're born in England, 490 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: you move in New Zealand, and then back to England again. 491 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: When I was about so what's the accent? And make 492 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: sure I have no idea? I mean, I'm so confused 493 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: with my accent. I mean, I've been here a while too, 494 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: and when you're around American accents all the time, I 495 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: feel like I actually enforced to shift because people are like, 496 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: what what did you just say? What? What's that? Even 497 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: my dog's name, My dog's names Barly, but I have 498 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 1: to call her Barley because otherwise everyone's like Barley Bary what? 499 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: And and you know, you change your accents. So then 500 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: when I go back to England. I get a load 501 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,440 Speaker 1: of grief from all my friends in England saying I 502 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,879 Speaker 1: sound American to Americans. I sound Australian to Australians. I 503 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 1: sound Scottish or English, I don't know. So you know what, 504 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: I like speaking cover as I do enjoy the version 505 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: of perfect that you put out. Think you put this 506 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: out by itself, right, yeah, and you have a lot 507 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: of really good covers that you just created and put out. 508 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: What what about the covers is it for you? It's 509 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I've done a few. I mean, some people 510 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,520 Speaker 1: you'll see, they'll put up covers on Spotify. They'll constantly 511 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: be doing versions of songs. It takes a lot for 512 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: me to do that, just because I have to. For 513 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: some reason, I loved that song. I love a lot 514 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 1: one direction that's really good. I'll be honest. I didn't 515 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: like it until you've covered it, and I loved it 516 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 1: afterwards because it because I listen to the words when 517 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: you did it. When I hear this now it's looked 518 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: too fast and there's still too tempo, it's like, okay, 519 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: it'sn't it. But when you're saying it, I heard the words. 520 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: It made me listen to the One Direction version. It 521 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: felt there's something longing about it because when I heard 522 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: the words, that's why it connected with me, because I 523 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,679 Speaker 1: was like, there's something a bit dark about this that 524 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: I like, and I wanted to get the gritty side 525 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 1: of it out, which is you can only really you 526 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: really only find that longing that the words, because I 527 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 1: love that's one of their songs that I just loved 528 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: the lyrics the most. Because of that, It's just sounds 529 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: a bit well that intrigues me, that subject that they're 530 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,640 Speaker 1: talking about. Did you find the One Direction fans came 531 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: at you the same way the Metallica fans came at you? Actually, 532 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: I feel like they for the most part, it seemed 533 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: to be that they liked it. I think it was 534 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 1: sort of different because I didn't seem to be. It's 535 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 1: not like I was a million miles like Metallica fans. 536 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just different things it. They seem 537 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: almost like really offended when they did the metall But yeah, 538 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: but the One Direction, not that I'm aware of not 539 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 1: didn't they seem it bothered by it at all? You 540 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,880 Speaker 1: never get to sing them Metallica? Did you know they've 541 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 1: already told you about that. If that happened, I mean, 542 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,119 Speaker 1: that would have been legendary. And actually the reason I 543 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: did the Metallica cover how I did it was because 544 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: they did the Michael Came in version with a full orchestra, 545 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 1: and that's kind of was like, oh man, that is 546 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: I mean, if you ever get to perform, I've done 547 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 1: a couple of things where I've gotten to perform with 548 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,440 Speaker 1: a full orchestra, and it's just one of the scariest 549 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: but amazing because you're playing the piano, You've got a click, 550 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: and you know you've got the conductor over there, you're singing, 551 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: everything is going on. It's the most crazy multitasking I've 552 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: ever done. And but amazing. Are you wearing inner ears 553 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 1: when you play the orchestra? I was the second time 554 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: because it was it was a big place that we 555 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: did it in, so I had to have the click 556 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: and because we were too far away from each other. 557 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: But there have been times where maybe I was on 558 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: wedges and it was just going by what the conductor 559 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 1: was doing, which is just terrifying because I don't you 560 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: know his movements are the orchestra members are used to 561 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: those types of movements, But I'm like, what's the downbeat? 562 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,400 Speaker 1: Was it up or down? Like what's happening? And it's 563 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,479 Speaker 1: really scary, but it is really an amazing feeling. It 564 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: just feels like a lot. It's a lot, and I mean, 565 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 1: if you're nothing to think about, it's a lot. Yeah. 566 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I get watching a show with the orchestra, 567 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 1: playing a show with the orchestra, plus you know, they 568 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,199 Speaker 1: start playing people that play in orchestras or you know, 569 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: those types of musicians. They play with such emotion and 570 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: I'm practically crying afterwards. I'm devastated by what they've just done. 571 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,360 Speaker 1: And they're like, oh, that's lunch. They put their bow 572 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: down and they just walk out with like seemingly no emotion. 573 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: I'm like, what you're doing is genius to me, but 574 00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: you're making no big deal. So I can't read music. 575 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: I'm not I've always played by ear. I can't. I'm 576 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: not academically good at any of that, so it always 577 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: blows me away. Let me play one more of these 578 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: because I pulled a few of the covers that I liked. 579 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: This is my favorite Willie Nelson song is Blue Eyes 580 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: Crying in the Rain. My second is always on my 581 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: mind because I love slow song. I think that's why 582 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: I love your music so much. Like I like real, 583 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: pure slow songs that made me want to get in 584 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: my closet and cover myself and my pretty cloth and 585 00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: cry right right like with me. I feel like this 586 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: is the one where I go, don't screw it up 587 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: because and they're all these songs are so precious to 588 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 1: the people who love them precious. And to this song, 589 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: I go, oh, don't screw it's it's yeah you always 590 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: this is the Live Things a year ago. Um, I 591 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: mean that's the thing you These songs the same as 592 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: the Royal persons like, these are classics, they are staples, 593 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: legendary songs. I think all you can do is be 594 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: the artist that you are. And if it's the reason 595 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: I picked this because it touches me and I can 596 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: only sing how I feel it. You come on, do 597 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: you hear that? Go damn, I'm good. I mean I can't. 598 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: I'm too self critical. I'll be pulling that apart. So 599 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: but oh that I felt it at the time. I 600 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: know one thing I won't criticize about myself is that 601 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: when I'm in that moment, I know I sung my heart. 602 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: I know I couldn't have done it any better. So 603 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: that's good. Go ahead, that's lovely, thank you. How about okay, 604 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: let's do that? Oh what's up? This is like I 605 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: feel like I'm in an episode of This Is Your Life. 606 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: It's like you could start bringing in strangers that I 607 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:29,959 Speaker 1: really don't want to see ever again. And here's your 608 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: cousin because my cousin Molaska. I mean, this is my voice. 609 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: That's like a different person. Yes, I either smoked forty 610 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: cigarettes or just talked way too much or had too 611 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: many late nights since then. I mean, it's so bizarre 612 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: because obviously I've I'm older since that came out. I 613 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 1: have lived a whole different life since that came out. 614 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,239 Speaker 1: That sounds so innocent to me, And it was. It was, 615 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: and I loved it. It was like I, as just said, 616 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 1: was a big Fleetwood Mac fan. That was like my 617 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: tribute somehow. It was like when we were recording that song, 618 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: but I just don't even I recognize where I was. 619 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: But it's such a different person to me. Same it was. 620 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: I love the song. This is for the record side. 621 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: It was not a joke everything, it's just for the record. 622 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: I really love did you write that I did. Rust 623 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: and Kelly and Jared k Who's were all the three 624 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: of us are great friends and in our friendship, we've 625 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: known each other for years. I don't even remember how 626 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: we got so close, but that day was really the 627 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,920 Speaker 1: special to us because we were hanging out anyway, and 628 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: actually I think it was me and Me and Garald 629 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,959 Speaker 1: were writing and Rusty came. We came and met Rusty 630 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 1: for a drink and then we're like, should we all 631 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: go and write a song today, Let's just go do it. 632 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: And I obviously they're both so talented, and Rustin's voice, 633 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: hees just start singing and you're just like, oh, it's 634 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: just he's one of the most natural artists I've ever met. 635 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: And I remember talking. We were talking about our past experiences, 636 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: which we had a lot of similarities, and I said, 637 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: you know, when you come out, you just come out 638 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,680 Speaker 1: of things looking bad. You're the one that looks bad. 639 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: You're and you want to kind of say to someone, hey, 640 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: just for the record, And we all just stopped in 641 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: our tracks and we're like that we need to write 642 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: that because that is something that it's summed up when 643 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: you when you are able to do that, when you're 644 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: able to sum things up perfectly as how as how 645 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: as to how you all felt, even the bit about 646 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: you laugh with your friends and say that I'm not 647 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: good enough. I mean, these are things that you just 648 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: know coming out of stuff, that you're on the receiving 649 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: end of that. And now such a special day. And 650 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: Rustin has recorded it his for his new record as well. Yeah, 651 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: and it's so I've got a version on my new 652 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: record that's coming out this year, and he his version 653 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: is so beautiful. It's it's like the different the ways 654 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: that men and women feel emotion so differently. His sounds 655 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: even a little darker than mine, a little even more longing. 656 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: It's different minds on piano and sort of slight like 657 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: that double time approach. His sounds probably um, maybe a 658 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: little more country, a little more roots see than mine. Um. 659 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: And his voice is measurmizing. So it's just it's just 660 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: an amazing different way to feel it. I played this earlier, 661 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:52,479 Speaker 1: this with Dave Barnes's friend that was it must be 662 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: three years ago now, something like that, and I remember 663 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 1: us in a room as well, and it was again 664 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: that kind of subject matter of looking at the pass 665 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: and looking our situations and Marion started singing that line 666 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: the three to one. I remember like it just hit 667 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 1: me immediately, and I was like, you know, we had 668 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: the title villain. And I remember saying to them afterwards, 669 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 1: I said to Marion, you know, do you do you 670 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: want to cut this song? You know? Because and she 671 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: she wasn't sure yet what she was cutting and what 672 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: she was doing, and I said, I feel very connected 673 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 1: to it, and um, if it's cool with you, I'd 674 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: love to record it. And I did a version of it, 675 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: but by this time I'd already recorded a whole record. 676 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: I literally had no money left, I had no way 677 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: to couldn't get back in the studio again. So I 678 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna go upstairs to my computer. I'm 679 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: just gonna record it upstairs in a room in my house. 680 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: And I'm not very good on logic or pro tools 681 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: around the stuff I get by, I mean, but I 682 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 1: recorded like that, just did it all myself, and I 683 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:48,879 Speaker 1: sent it to mar and I was like, Okay, this 684 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 1: is I don't know if I'm doing the song justice 685 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: because this sounds kind of I don't know, I don't 686 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: know how professional was sound. And she loved it and 687 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: she was so excited. We just we were so excited 688 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: of the song and me and Dave, the three of us. 689 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: It was one of those days again, it was one 690 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: of those special days where you're just hanging out and 691 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: you feel a real connection between the three of you 692 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: and I love Marion, I love Dave. They really do 693 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: feel like family to me. So it's it's even better 694 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: when a song like that that means so much to you, 695 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,839 Speaker 1: who comes out of that. I saw Maren after her 696 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: wedding posted Instagram with you in it. You're sang her 697 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,839 Speaker 1: down the aisle. Yeah, and again that was I mean, 698 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: that's song. You got it? Actually, she she asked, so 699 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,800 Speaker 1: with me, Royal person covered me, Natalie Hemby, Laura Velts 700 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 1: and Ian fit Chuck all sang it so and it was. 701 00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 1: It was so special because Marion was one of four 702 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: people that were there when John and I got married, 703 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,359 Speaker 1: so there was only we were in my house. We 704 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 1: didn't have a proper big wedding, so Marion was John's 705 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,960 Speaker 1: best man basically, And when she texted to say, you know, 706 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,080 Speaker 1: I'd really love this, I was so honored because it 707 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: is such a it's such a beautiful, special, intimate day 708 00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: and I thought, what better feeling to watch someone walk 709 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 1: down the end. I was worried about myself off because 710 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: I'd just come home from being with my family in 711 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: New Zealand. I was going to watch her walk down 712 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 1: the aisle marrying Ryan trying to sing this song, and 713 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: I was like, I need to hold it together. And 714 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: luckily her dog, Pancake, came down the our first, so 715 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 1: I was laughing at Pancakes. He's so cute. That really 716 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: saved me from bawling my eyes out. Wow. So Marion 717 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: was was John's best women for a while. We have 718 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: I mean, when Mary moved to town, I guess, and 719 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm very bad at timeline, so I can't remember, but 720 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: we met her. I think it was really through Casey 721 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: that we met Marion. And she, you know, she was 722 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: really shy and sort of unassuming, really smart, but just 723 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: sort of like keep to herself. And we went to 724 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: Santa's Pub one night and she just she sang Halo 725 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: my business. She started singing like what's going on before, 726 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: like it's ridiculous, and we had no idea. We were like, 727 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: what just happened? This is a pocket rocket, this tiny 728 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: little thing who's so sweet and sings with this enormous voice, 729 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,239 Speaker 1: and that's just kind of her all over. She just 730 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,080 Speaker 1: she moved to a new town as have got her 731 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 1: head down and worked hard and and I don't know it, 732 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: just I just guess you gravitate towards certain people, and 733 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: she was one of them. I just found her would 734 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: always be really sweet and kind, and I've been really 735 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,799 Speaker 1: proud and learned a lot watching her do what she does. 736 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 1: You sold a million records, so we just handed this 737 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 1: note in Europe. It's all a million records, a million, 738 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: one million. Yeah, it's crazy. I don't understand a million records. 739 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: That's a lot. That's why people come to your shows. 740 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,839 Speaker 1: That's a lot. I mean it. And that's the thing. 741 00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 1: It's so crazy when I say I've lived different lives 742 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: because my career, I mean I moved to Nashville, and 743 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 1: people in England thought, well, I guess she's going to 744 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,879 Speaker 1: be a songwriter. She's moved somewhere else, she's not coming 745 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: back here. But I've never really been worried about And 746 00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: also when I came to Nashville, I never told anyone. 747 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 1: I never really discussed with anyone like what I've done before. 748 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: It was so blown away by Nashville. I was so 749 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: I was. I was intimidated, and also I didn't think 750 00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: it was relevant. I just wanted to learn and wanted 751 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,279 Speaker 1: to meet people because I found the pop I found 752 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 1: the industry jarring, and when I came to Nashville, there 753 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,240 Speaker 1: was just people getting up and singing and writing songs, 754 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:27,399 Speaker 1: and it just felt like the connection I'd always been 755 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,240 Speaker 1: looking for. I feel like you're the most positive person 756 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: around other artists that I know. You're still encouraging to everybody. 757 00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: I mean, it's genuine, because I don't Why wouldn't I be, 758 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,719 Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like, I don't. I'm 759 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: the type of person. I have in securities like the 760 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 1: next person, like everybody does, but I don't. They don't 761 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: come out towards other people. They come out towards my 762 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: They're self destructive at the worst of times, and when 763 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,200 Speaker 1: it comes to other people, like I just you know, 764 00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: And it's not like I love every bit of music 765 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 1: I hear, but when I do, I just really I 766 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: just love to see people go out there and do 767 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,640 Speaker 1: their thing. I like to see people work hard, and 768 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 1: I think that belief in themselves and that way that 769 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: they're putting out something I love inspires me to do 770 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: it as well. So it makes me feel yeah, just 771 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: it kind of eggs me on a little bit. But 772 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:20,880 Speaker 1: also I just I just feel like people need encouragement 773 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,040 Speaker 1: and it's just nice to especially in this community. It's 774 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,920 Speaker 1: people thrive off each other's love and support and the 775 00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: community that they've built here. I feel like people do 776 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: better because of it. So your husband is John from 777 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: Brothers Osborne, and that's been quite the rocket ship in 778 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: the past. It's I mean, not a rocket ship for 779 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,600 Speaker 1: you guys, because you've been in him. He's been grinding 780 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 1: it out for so long. Yeah, but as far as 781 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: the general public to go boom, Here's Brothers Osborne, I mean, 782 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,600 Speaker 1: that's had to be quite the ride in the house, huh. 783 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: It has. But you know, the funny thing is, it's 784 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: like you said, I've been watching it for such a 785 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 1: long time at John ten years nearly eleven years ago, 786 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: and he was he was in a band called King 787 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,080 Speaker 1: Billy and it was and then his brother and him 788 00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: were always playing together. So I've seen this long journey. 789 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: But I guess it's hard for me to see what 790 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: that looks like. I mean, I never see what it 791 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: looks like from an audience perspective. He's John to me. 792 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean, even when he goes on stage and plays guitar, 793 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, hang on a minute, how do I connect 794 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: the person that I know and I'm married to to 795 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: that guy who is playing the most insane, incredible, so 796 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,799 Speaker 1: low as I've ever heard in my life. I can't 797 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: even compute the two and and actually it's probably a 798 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: good thing that I can't, because I probably wouldn't be 799 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: able to make eye contact. But he's he's just I 800 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 1: think he's such a worker. I don't think he doesn't 801 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: take he doesn't put too much stock in the hoopler 802 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:46,400 Speaker 1: of what's going on because he just wants to play guitar. 803 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 1: And t J and him are just very I think 804 00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: they're quite relaxed and chilled about it because of their 805 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: upbringing and they but it is amazing to watch what's 806 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: happened and the way it's happened, because it hasn't been 807 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: easy for them. It's not like they went hang on 808 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: the scene and Okay, this is easy. You're getting on 809 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,359 Speaker 1: the radio, you're getting awards again. They really had to 810 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 1: work at it, and I think that they're carving out 811 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: elane that is very unique to them, and that's what 812 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 1: I'm really proud of. And the biggest thing was the 813 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: last time I thought was in the room when they 814 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 1: won an award. It could have been the c M 815 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: as it was the way people reacted to them winning 816 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: the award that made me literally want to cry. I was. 817 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: I was very proud to watch the amount of love 818 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: and support for them because I think they've wanted to 819 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: do it the most authentic way. They don't They've wanted 820 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,759 Speaker 1: to do it in the real way. They wanted to 821 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: make music that they love, no matter how difficult it is, 822 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 1: no matter how they might not fit in with everything. 823 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,160 Speaker 1: So it's been good to watch. I think people root 824 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 1: for people that work hard, just generally, if you root 825 00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,640 Speaker 1: for the person that's putting in the time. And I 826 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,680 Speaker 1: think that's why people are root for John and t 827 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 1: J one. They are very likable people. If you get 828 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:55,360 Speaker 1: in sometimes like t J, I want to put me 829 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: in the face. But I don't have to work anymore. 830 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: J Oo, I don't know anymore. I don't know, but yeah, yeah, 831 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,800 Speaker 1: I think people root hard. Never record coming out Friday 832 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: right right? What about you? I mean that record is 833 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: so bad as by the way, it's a classic, it's 834 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 1: so beautiful and and but like you said, you root 835 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,799 Speaker 1: for people that work hard, and I have friends that 836 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,919 Speaker 1: And it's the delicate thing about this town is that 837 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: there's it's it's been an inspiring thing to make music. 838 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 1: You get us Bible. What you have to be careful 839 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: of is you want friendships to be real. You want 840 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,720 Speaker 1: those relationships to be based on how you feel around 841 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: each other, not based on what's happening in each other's careers. 842 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 1: You want that real connection. And I think I think 843 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: the biggest thing for them is that they've had They 844 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,920 Speaker 1: just keep the realness around them, and so do I. 845 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,319 Speaker 1: That's what inspires us to work harder. And like you say, 846 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,480 Speaker 1: I'll root for people that work hard, that that are humble. 847 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,439 Speaker 1: I don't. 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Um It's called E g O, which 884 00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:05,360 Speaker 1: and everybody gets off on I don't That is a 885 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: whole another podcast. But let's delve U e G O. 886 00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:14,839 Speaker 1: So I'm really really excited about this record for so 887 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,839 Speaker 1: many reasons. Firstly, the music. It feels like some sort 888 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,759 Speaker 1: of weird personal awakening to me, and that's a very 889 00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,040 Speaker 1: typical thing to say for an artist probably, But the 890 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,600 Speaker 1: reason it is is because I've been in this town, 891 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: maybe on a permanent level, maybe ten years overall, but 892 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: living here for about seven years, and I made letters 893 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:36,719 Speaker 1: to ghosts and that was an Now I most so 894 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,240 Speaker 1: proud of, but I feel like I've still been finding 895 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 1: my way as British Lucy, you know, in an industry 896 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: of well, I'm in this genre that's not quite it's 897 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: not pop, it's not country, it's this place. So it's like, 898 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,359 Speaker 1: what is that place that I've had to find? And 899 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,960 Speaker 1: I've never had more fun than I had with this 900 00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,319 Speaker 1: album doing that because I really didn't think about any 901 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: of it. I went in with John Green again, who 902 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 1: was the person that brought me to Nashville in the 903 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: first place. It was sort of a full circle thing. 904 00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 1: We recorded it a Battle Tapes. I was so excited 905 00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: to record there because Steel is Um, Andrew Combs, the Brummies, 906 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,920 Speaker 1: they all did their records there and I loved the 907 00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: sound of all of them. And Jeremy Ferguson over there 908 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,640 Speaker 1: was just one of the most amazing engineers people I've 909 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,880 Speaker 1: gotten to meet here. And we did it there and 910 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,919 Speaker 1: it just felt like we were in a bubble, which 911 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,560 Speaker 1: is what I needed to be in in this amazing 912 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: town with so many artists around me, my husband, my 913 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: friends doing all their things. I was like, well, what 914 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 1: is my thing? What is where do I want to 915 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,040 Speaker 1: go next? And I've gotten such amazing support from the 916 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,160 Speaker 1: country community, but really it's important for me to do 917 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:47,360 Speaker 1: something that feels really authentically myself, which you know, is 918 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: based on a lot of music that comes out of Nashville, 919 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,720 Speaker 1: just not necessarily country. And so we just had a blast. 920 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: I had every close friend involved in this record, and 921 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 1: that's I really think it's really special. I wrote. Natalie 922 00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,760 Speaker 1: Hamby is one of the main features on the record. 923 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: She we wrote five together, and I genuinely don't even 924 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: know how when we wrote them, because it creaked up 925 00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 1: on us how many we've written together. We just and 926 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 1: it was so special because she's truly one of my 927 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:20,239 Speaker 1: favorite people and one of my She's someone I love 928 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 1: so dearly and I think I'll know for the rest 929 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: of my life. And the same as you know, Aaron 930 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: McCauley and John my husband, and we wrote one, Kate 931 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 1: York and just you know, Jeremy Spillman as well, just 932 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 1: people that I just there are people I have in 933 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: my life on a daily basis, and when I listened 934 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,200 Speaker 1: to this album, it just feels so unique to me. 935 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,520 Speaker 1: Um that kind of makes it harder when you think 936 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,600 Speaker 1: we'll wear in the scheme of things. There's a sip, 937 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:45,919 Speaker 1: but I don't care about any of that. I didn't 938 00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 1: think about any of that. I just made an album 939 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,759 Speaker 1: that's so exciting to me lyrically and sound wise and 940 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:55,160 Speaker 1: reflects where I'm at. You wanted the short answer, didn't 941 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: you know? I'm just I'm listening. You know I could 942 00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,520 Speaker 1: keep going. You know, I'm going to have it downloaded, 943 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:04,239 Speaker 1: and your prepate on vinyl because you're cool. But I've 944 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,239 Speaker 1: never had vinyl before the seven inches that I did, 945 00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 1: so I'll have it on vinyl because vinyl is core. 946 00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:15,359 Speaker 1: Vinyl is so cool and I actually, weirdly enough, when 947 00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 1: I was younger, I used to collect the forty fives. 948 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: I had, like this whole little China juke box, small 949 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: ones had things Sign of the Times on viol and everything. 950 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,479 Speaker 1: But I've never had a full full vinyl before. So 951 00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about that. And it's I'm working with 952 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 1: thirty Tigers on this record, and just everything is a 953 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,960 Speaker 1: new venture for me on this and it's it's really 954 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: really exciting. I just feel a lot of freedom with it. 955 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 1: So when will people get to hear it? So the 956 00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: first song they're here in June will come out and 957 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: then there'll be three, probably two more after that before 958 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,200 Speaker 1: the record comes out in August. How exciting, It's so exciting, 959 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: and it's really and it's it's just I've gotten to 960 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,719 Speaker 1: do so many great, exciting things over the past year 961 00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,280 Speaker 1: that have led me up to at this point, and honestly, 962 00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: it's it's right for me to tell people. Obviously, I've 963 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 1: been an independent artist, as you know, no record deals, 964 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: no teams of people, just me and my manager slogging 965 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: it out, figuring out how to do it. Then started 966 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,719 Speaker 1: working obviously with Jay Williams wm E, but aside from 967 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,240 Speaker 1: that we were really as a team on our own. 968 00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 1: And then I got the call that I was that 969 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,399 Speaker 1: Chris and Morgan wanted me to go on tour with them. Yeah, 970 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 1: Stapleton's and that was I've done a few shows with 971 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,080 Speaker 1: them before. I've done maybe five or six with them 972 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,880 Speaker 1: the previous year, and I knew the brothers were going 973 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 1: out with them, and they said, well, they want you 974 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 1: to go to and I was, I just was. So 975 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: I remember sending Morgan an email just saying, you have 976 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,000 Speaker 1: no idea how much this means to me, because being 977 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: on the road with you guys obviously I love their music, 978 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,239 Speaker 1: I love what they do, I love the story. But 979 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:52,800 Speaker 1: I get to be on the road with my family 980 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 1: like it just you can't cross pollinating those worlds. For 981 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 1: me never got to happen before I moved to Nashville, 982 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,320 Speaker 1: so I on life quite difficult trying to balance the two. 983 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,839 Speaker 1: And if it weren't for christ and Morgan, I don't 984 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 1: think I would have been able to. I would have 985 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,360 Speaker 1: found a way because I've always found a way financially 986 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: to make music and do everything I've done because it's 987 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 1: all been self financed. But because of them, I was 988 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 1: able to go into the studio at that time and 989 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:22,400 Speaker 1: make this record. Really amazing. Wait until August. August it 990 00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: feels like ages away. But time is flying way too 991 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,279 Speaker 1: quick already. It feels because my Boot comes out in June. 992 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 1: I thought that will never happen. So it's your second book. 993 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,320 Speaker 1: It was like September of last year and I'm going June, 994 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 1: give me a breath now, and here we are. It's 995 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:42,480 Speaker 1: recording this. It's almost made right. It's crazy. Same as 996 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 1: the Brothers. You know, they recorded their album April of 997 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:47,120 Speaker 1: last year and they've had to wait a year by 998 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 1: the time mine comes out, I would have waited nearly 999 00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 1: a year, and it's excruciating. You know, you just wanna 1000 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,880 Speaker 1: I'm in that headspace. And also I don't want to 1001 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,760 Speaker 1: listen to the stuff I've done because then I'll rerecord 1002 00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 1: the whole thing because I'll be picking it to pieces. 1003 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 1: But I'm just excited for the time of my life 1004 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: that I'm in the people. I had like a listening 1005 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 1: party just for the people that were involved in the record, 1006 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,799 Speaker 1: and and then I had you know, Marion and Ryan came, 1007 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,839 Speaker 1: and Casey cames, Rustin's on the record, but people, some 1008 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,560 Speaker 1: people came just because they were supporting and wanting to 1009 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,960 Speaker 1: hear it. And I looked around the room and it 1010 00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,560 Speaker 1: was some of my favorite when I wrote songs with 1011 00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: Jade McPherson on there, with Trent Dabs on there, people 1012 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,240 Speaker 1: that I truly admire. Looking around the room and I thought, 1013 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,640 Speaker 1: I don't care even what happens to this. I just 1014 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:35,839 Speaker 1: I got to make something that I love with my 1015 00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,840 Speaker 1: best friend, with my husband, playing with all these people. 1016 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: This is I just don't feel like many people get 1017 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:46,360 Speaker 1: to do it like that. So positive. I'm negative sometimes 1018 00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,759 Speaker 1: I've never seen it. John sees it, but I mean, 1019 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,800 Speaker 1: you're a real treasurer. I do think as a person 1020 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:57,359 Speaker 1: as an artist. Before I don't know fan of the music. 1021 00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, And that's how I know I like the 1022 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:04,200 Speaker 1: music because didn't know you music, But thank you. No, 1023 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 1: it's it's it's really cool to see. I mean, you're 1024 00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,319 Speaker 1: such a music fan and you like so you like 1025 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: such an eclectic range of things. This town has so 1026 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 1: much of it. And I knew, like when I started 1027 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,520 Speaker 1: to see you post about different kinds of music weren't 1028 00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: necessarily played on your show, I was like, I know 1029 00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,319 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a lot in common, lots of talking. 1030 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,320 Speaker 1: Then then I started playing all the all the stuff 1031 00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:25,920 Speaker 1: that I like it's not country on my country show, 1032 00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,880 Speaker 1: and then everybody again I just don't do it whatever, 1033 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,000 Speaker 1: But people were people were human beings, but you, but 1034 00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,400 Speaker 1: you're the personality on that show, and people want to 1035 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,600 Speaker 1: know what you like, and you know it's just because 1036 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,760 Speaker 1: you're you know, it's it's it's all part and parcel 1037 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:41,239 Speaker 1: of who you are as a person and what you're 1038 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: listening to. I love that. And that's like I said, 1039 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,400 Speaker 1: when I didn't expect you to play Let's to Go, 1040 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,239 Speaker 1: I didn't really think about that and think it was 1041 00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:48,879 Speaker 1: gonna happen. When I heard that you played on the show, 1042 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,120 Speaker 1: I was so excited because it's things that music takes 1043 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,480 Speaker 1: you to places and meet people that you never expected 1044 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 1: to meet. And my life in Nashville has been just 1045 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,839 Speaker 1: constant surge of that, like Wow, Okay, this is happening. Now, 1046 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,319 Speaker 1: this is happening. And you know, I remember when we 1047 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,799 Speaker 1: went out on the road, you were like, Hey, what's 1048 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 1: your plan? And I remember going, Mmm, I'm on the 1049 00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,719 Speaker 1: non plan plan because I don't I'm not admittedly there's 1050 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,960 Speaker 1: a lot of things that I probably don't plan like 1051 00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,160 Speaker 1: I should do. You know why I asked that, though? 1052 00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,279 Speaker 1: Do you know why I would ask you what your plan? 1053 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,520 Speaker 1: I assumed it was because you cared, because because I 1054 00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:27,440 Speaker 1: wanted to be a part of helping you in your plan. 1055 00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 1: So that's what it was. Was, I, Hey, what's your plan? 1056 00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 1: Maybe I can expedite the process a bit because I 1057 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 1: personally enjoy what you do, so let me help you 1058 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,839 Speaker 1: with your plan. It was it, Hey, I'm looking at 1059 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 1: what you're doing. I knew that. I hope it didn't 1060 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:43,080 Speaker 1: come across as that, because it was it was, Hey, 1061 00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:44,440 Speaker 1: what's your plan because I want to help you with 1062 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,960 Speaker 1: the plan. I know, I knew that. I knew that, 1063 00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,920 Speaker 1: and you did. That's the thing, and I think it 1064 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 1: was just that at that time, it was one of 1065 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 1: those things where I think, now I've got so much 1066 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 1: more of a clearer view of where I am and 1067 00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,439 Speaker 1: where I want to go, because at that time I'd 1068 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 1: made a record because I was in love with Nashville 1069 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,239 Speaker 1: and it was very much like It's not like I 1070 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,560 Speaker 1: didn't but we didn't go to any record labels. We 1071 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:08,640 Speaker 1: didn't do any of that with it. We just put 1072 00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 1: it out. So now I'm going to um to petition 1073 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,279 Speaker 1: to play Madison Square Garden, to headline to Greek So 1074 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,759 Speaker 1: if you could help me with that, No, I mean, 1075 00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:23,000 Speaker 1: the album's coming out and were we are, like you said, 1076 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 1: you know you and we have talked about this where 1077 00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 1: I sit in the scheme of music and it's kind 1078 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,239 Speaker 1: of on the outskirts of we're going for that kind 1079 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,960 Speaker 1: of world of you know, Triple A and all that 1080 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,600 Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and I just want to I want 1081 00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 1: to be on the road. I want to build up 1082 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,080 Speaker 1: my own life following because I've gotten to open with 1083 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 1: some great people. But I really want to get you know, 1084 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 1: I want to start touring a lot and digging a 1085 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,919 Speaker 1: lot so I can start to build my audience here. 1086 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,520 Speaker 1: And you know, this record is bold lyrically and I 1087 00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 1: just kind of I've got a few things that I 1088 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,280 Speaker 1: want to do along with it and just show people 1089 00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:57,880 Speaker 1: hold a new side to me that they may not 1090 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,759 Speaker 1: have seen before. But I have a good team of 1091 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,920 Speaker 1: people now, and I've never had that before. I've never 1092 00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,480 Speaker 1: had people actually working to get my music out to 1093 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: the world. And it feels really really great. Well, when 1094 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:10,840 Speaker 1: it comes out, I'm there for you. Thank you. I 1095 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:12,719 Speaker 1: will be there for you. Well, it has been thanks 1096 00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,759 Speaker 1: for coming by. I think I said, you've probably been 1097 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,880 Speaker 1: in twenty episodes where you've been a reference of something 1098 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: from a couple. By the way, I don't say anything 1099 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 1: bad because you're on a podcast. Yeah yeah, don't Yeah, 1100 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,000 Speaker 1: don't don't say anything that you don't want her buy 1101 00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,200 Speaker 1: a few people, okay, go So yeah, well, well well 1102 00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 1: you may you may hear this after August. The record 1103 00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:33,839 Speaker 1: maybe out right now, and it's called e g oh 1104 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 1: why why why would you call it? Everybody gets on. 1105 00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,080 Speaker 1: It's actually a good question because where I was at 1106 00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:46,360 Speaker 1: I was like sometimes the fame and the the like. 1107 00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,760 Speaker 1: We were talking about attention from people and the fickle 1108 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:52,240 Speaker 1: audience that will be like, Okay, I love that everyone's 1109 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:54,600 Speaker 1: clamoring to say how can I stand out? How can 1110 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: I rise above it all? And sometimes that takes you 1111 00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,799 Speaker 1: to places that I think people shouldn't have to go. 1112 00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:03,959 Speaker 1: And it's talking about everyone is drinking the cool aid 1113 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,239 Speaker 1: of this fame thing that, and I'm guilty of it too. 1114 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:11,040 Speaker 1: It was really not poking fun in anyone other than 1115 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,239 Speaker 1: really myself saying sometimes I get caught up in things 1116 00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,200 Speaker 1: that I shouldn't get caught up in, and you get 1117 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 1: caught up for doing something for the wrong reasons, And 1118 00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 1: it really is that. It's a kind of tongue in 1119 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,919 Speaker 1: cheek of being at a party. It says, how how 1120 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,440 Speaker 1: can I help you? How now I've fought me on lyrics, 1121 00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:28,160 Speaker 1: but saying like when you go to a party and 1122 00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:29,839 Speaker 1: someone says, what are you doing? They're trying to find 1123 00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:32,680 Speaker 1: a way that you can help them, or everyone can 1124 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,959 Speaker 1: get connected to for some contrived reason, and it's really 1125 00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,919 Speaker 1: talking about that. A lot of the record is talking 1126 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,279 Speaker 1: about finding what's real to you in your life and 1127 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,680 Speaker 1: what you want the fraudulent things you want to get 1128 00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:46,600 Speaker 1: rid of. I'm not looking for you for anything to 1129 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 1: boost me up. Come on, tell me the real reason. 1130 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:56,920 Speaker 1: Like so, it's been a real treat, a lot of 1131 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,880 Speaker 1: pre talk he did. It was great, none of your 1132 00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 1: truth session. Okay, I'm moving, but yeah, I'll be moving 1133 00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:06,839 Speaker 1: in here. You can, Yeah, you can have it all right, Well, 1134 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,600 Speaker 1: we'll see you next time. Thanks to our sponsors. Are 1135 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,200 Speaker 1: you coming back next time? He said, all right, thanks 1136 00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 1: our sponsor's Blue Apron and Zola, two things I know 1137 00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:16,200 Speaker 1: you're gonna check out as soon as this is over, 1138 00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to go eat food and weather. Yeah, I'll 1139 00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,040 Speaker 1: see you next time here on the Bobby get yep