1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: It's nine O Genegen with Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling. Today, 2 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: we are very excited we are being joined by one 3 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: of our amazing co stars from season five, actor James Victor. 4 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: He played Peter Tucker on seven episodes. Here's our chat 5 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: with James. Hi, Hey, how are you great? 6 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, you haven't aged at all. 7 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: I have it. Oh that's good to know you have 8 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: the exact same hair do that we're looking at a 9 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: picture of you on our computers here when you were 10 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: playing the character on nine O two and I Peter Tucker. 11 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: You have the same exact hairdo. 12 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 3: I'm thankful that I still have it. You can be 13 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 3: good hair, good jeans, I guess right. 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question. Does your mom have 15 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: good hair? And your mom's dad? 16 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: Actually, you know, I never met my mom's dad, but 17 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 3: that was the Ironically, I never found out that I 18 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:12,559 Speaker 3: was Irish until I was in college. I always wondered 19 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 3: because of the hair color. I said, you sure, I'm 20 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 3: not Irish? And my grandparents used to tell me that 21 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 3: I was Northern Italian because my whole family's Italian. So 22 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 3: but yeah, I think Irish. 23 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: Part, how'd you find out you're Irish. 24 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: Well, years later I saw a picture. I found a 25 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: picture of my mom's real dad, and I just I wondered, like, 26 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 3: I said, who is this person? And I found out 27 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: that they kind of, you know, because my grandparents, my 28 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: grandmother got divorced really early on, when my mother was 29 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 3: like two or three years old. They kind of it 30 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: was kind of shameful to admit that. I guess, so 31 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 3: I guess she was very proud, and so you know, 32 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: when she married, that was the only grandfather that I knew, 33 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: and I thought, you know, I thought he was my 34 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 3: biological grandfather. 35 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 1: Of Okay, but yeah, that's so fascinating. 36 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 3: The hair because my brother and I have are the 37 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 3: only ones who have like strawberry blonde hair, and we 38 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: both have it and no one else has it in 39 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 3: the entire family. So it always been a weird thing 40 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 3: of a joke in high school of like, you know, 41 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 3: the milkman did. 42 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: The milk Man? 43 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:28,920 Speaker 3: You guys look amazing as well. 44 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really good to see you. We've just gotten 45 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:40,359 Speaker 1: into the episodes where Peter, that's your character. Uh, you 46 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: are flirting at the laundromat with Andrea and then you 47 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: show up as the doctor in the ery she brings her. 48 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: Baby the doctor med Med is the med student or 49 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 3: he was. 50 00:02:57,639 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: What is young to be the doctor? 51 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, but yeah, that was that was so 52 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 3: much fun. 53 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 4: By the way, we just found out what happens we 54 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 4: we didn't remember and. 55 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: Well into that. We haven't gotten to that episode on 56 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: the podcast rewatch, so we try not to spoil things 57 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: for our viewers or for me. 58 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 3: Hopefully viewers have seen it or the new you know, 59 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: going out to a whole new audience hopefully. Right. Yeah, 60 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: So when when you guys invited me to do this, 61 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 3: thank you so much. I hadn't seen the episodes in 62 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 3: so long. I actually tried to, you know, figure out 63 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 3: where I can watch them, and they're on Amazon right now. 64 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: And good to know. 65 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so I know that, and seasons are on Amazon, 66 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 3: and so I was like, oh, you know what, I'm 67 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: going to watch some of these. But I thought it 68 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 3: was interesting that which one was it? You have You 69 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 3: Got to Have Heart was not? It skipped over it, 70 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: and I was kind of like on this mission of like, 71 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: what happened? Why is that one not there? Why are they. 72 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 2: Skipping that one on streaming? 73 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, they want to save it. They want you to 74 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: be like, ok I don't. 75 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: Think it's that. 76 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: Got more to do with this. 77 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 3: Who knows, I don't know, I didn't know. 78 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: But uh, but is that one? Does that one come 79 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 1: after the laundromat and after the hospital? Yeah, when you're referencing, Okay, 80 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: maybe hopefully we get to see it. 81 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 3: Sort of start. Yeah, there's the obviously, the flirting that's happening, 82 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: and the kind of random running into each other and 83 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 3: uh and then. 84 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: The little fact of your character being married. 85 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that is uh, well she's married. 86 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's married. 87 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 3: Too, and you address that in our little telltale wedding 88 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: rings that we both avoided to notice. 89 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 1: So right, I don't think you guys she doesn't wear 90 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: her rings when she goes to the laundermeat Oh okay, 91 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: I just want to lose them. Yeah, that's true, that 92 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: type though her Andrea, Yeah, she didn't want to lose 93 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: her I believe she's very practical. She didn't want to 94 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: lose her rings at the laundromat. Okay, but I buy 95 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: that Peter purposely took his ring off when he saw 96 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: this hot girl at the laundromat. 97 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was a little deceptive. Yeah, yeah, but 98 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 3: any kind of yeah. So but that was a fun 99 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 3: scene to film, and I was so excited to just 100 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: get this role because it was it was such an easy. 101 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: M H fit. 102 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know how to explain it, 103 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 3: but I don't know if you guys know that I 104 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: auditioned for the show once before what no tell us? 105 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 3: Years before I auditioned about two years earlier, I had 106 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: auditioned for I don't know, it was a it was 107 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 3: a drama teacher during summer school. I don't know if 108 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 3: you remember that. The actor, the young Elvis Presley who 109 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 3: ended up getting it, I think I don't know his name, 110 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 3: but yeah, And so I auditioned for that, and I 111 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 3: have to say it was I don't know. I came 112 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: up with this crazy, fun, out of the box audition 113 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:20,280 Speaker 3: and it went so well, and then I got a callback. 114 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 3: And when I realized, like my agent didn't tell me 115 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 3: that it was, I just assumed like it was a 116 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 3: callback for a guest star, and I was going to 117 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: producers and when I got there there was all of 118 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 3: these former series regulars and I had I'd never been 119 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 3: to network before, and so when I actually got in 120 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 3: the room, there was about about like fifty people sitting 121 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 3: there scary, right, and I totally bombed. I did. I froze, 122 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 3: and yeah, it was just it was the first time 123 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 3: that that had happened, and it was kind of just 124 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 3: such a I should have. 125 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, but then you made the bed and not the part. 126 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow. 127 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: It worked out better, which I don't know if that happens, 128 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 3: It feels like it happens rarely. But to have it 129 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 3: come back around like that a couple of years later 130 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: and to get this role was was just like a blessing. 131 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 3: I was just like, oh my god. It was just 132 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 3: you know, you have to tell yourself like that that 133 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 3: maybe things happened for a reason. But I just remember, yeah, 134 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: just feeling like, oh my god, I got another opportunity 135 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 3: to Did. 136 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: You know that it would be a seven episode sort 137 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: of big, huge character arc for one of the main characters. 138 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: I didn't. I didn't at the time. Now yeah I didn't. 139 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: It was just like I think it was the only 140 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 3: time I went into an audition where the producers actually 141 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 3: said they had me read for also the student activist, 142 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 3: and they were like, oh, wow, you're so perfect for 143 00:07:55,520 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: this one too. We don't know which one to cast you, 144 00:07:57,920 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: because usually nobody tells you a thing when you're in 145 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: the room, right, But they were so open about it, 146 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: and it just put me really at ease. I felt like, wow, 147 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 3: this is this is so so great. 148 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: And had you watched the show before because it had 149 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: been on for four seasons before you joined? 150 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: Four seasons and I had. I had watched the first season, 151 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 3: but I hadn't seen it since the first season. 152 00:08:31,680 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 4: Wait, you, guys, I got to go back to something. 153 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 4: I'm so sorry. What when you went to network? I know, 154 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 4: sorry you didn't get that role, but so much better 155 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 4: this role? Right, the drama school teacher Summer School? Was 156 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 4: he meant to be a series regular? Like if he 157 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 4: went to network? 158 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:51,079 Speaker 3: Well, that's what was so confusing. Confusing he wasn't. I 159 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 3: wasn't supposed to be a series regular. I went in 160 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 3: under the impression that it was just a guest star. 161 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: I felt like it was similar to this role of Peter, 162 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:06,120 Speaker 3: where it was a guest star possible recurring, but maybe 163 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: it was already a guaranteed recurring for the whole summer. 164 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 3: And so that's why when I first got there and 165 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 3: I was surprised, I was like, wait a second, there 166 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: was all these series regulars, like I recognized that guy 167 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:20,240 Speaker 3: from Coach and I recognized this guy, and I was 168 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 3: just kind of like, I didn't know what was happening. 169 00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 2: One number did they put you in when you went 170 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: in the room. 171 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what number. But my kid called 172 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 3: me afterwards. My agent called me afterwards, and he was 173 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 3: just like, what happened? You were their first choice and 174 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 3: they just don't know what happened. And I was like, 175 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 3: I was their first choice. I said, it would have 176 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 3: been nice to have some information. By the way I'm 177 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 3: being prepared. I was so thrown and was not expecting 178 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: because I guess it wasn't. I mean, that's network, right, 179 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 3: I mean there were fifty people on a couch and 180 00:09:55,360 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 3: and your father sitting in the middle. So I was anyway, 181 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 3: But I get it. 182 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: We've all been there. Yeah. 183 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: Do you get recognized by people as Peter? 184 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 3: Do You? 185 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 2: Not? 186 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 3: Not anymore? 187 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: Because if I were to see you, like at the 188 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 1: grocery store, I would look at you and be like, 189 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 1: I know that guy from somewhere. 190 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, because that fa I still look similar. But I 191 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:26,320 Speaker 3: had gotten recognized up until about honestly, up until about 192 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 3: probably in my forties, I was still getting recognized, and 193 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 3: I have to be honest, I had no idea doing 194 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 3: the show the power that it actually had, Like after 195 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 3: I did the show, I mean obviously just you think 196 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 3: having a recurring role. I had no idea that people 197 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 3: would recognize me as much as they did or where 198 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 3: honestly I could. I mean, my biggest memory is being 199 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 3: at an Elton John and Billy Joel concert. Someone before 200 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 3: it started came down from the stands and tapped me 201 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 3: on the shoulder, so it's like, oh, you're that guy 202 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 3: from I and I was. I was really taken aback 203 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 3: because that was the first time something like that had 204 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 3: happened to me. 205 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: So did SAMs get mad at you? Like it's Andrea? 206 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 4: Like, I guess I'm thinking so many characters like that, 207 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 4: they didn't like what they were doing on the show, 208 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 4: and they like hated them in real life. It's like, 209 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 4: it's just a character. 210 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: Did that happen? 211 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 3: No, I had, no, I never happened, you know, that 212 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 3: had never come up. I had never I had gotten 213 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 3: fan mail, and it seemed like it was all positive. 214 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,360 Speaker 3: It was like no one ever said, like, how can 215 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 3: you do that to Andrea? What's wrong with you. It 216 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: was more like I had still gotten fan mail saying, oh, 217 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: we're so sorry to see you go. And even that 218 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 3: last episode where I'm kind of like, you know, not 219 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 3: very nice, and she's she's. 220 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 2: Really haven't seen it yet. 221 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet. 222 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 3: Yes, okay, you'll be you'll be surprised. You'll be surprised. 223 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 4: So in the end, it's not nice, and you still 224 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 4: didn't get fans mad at you. 225 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 1: Hey he got no hate. Well there was no internet then, 226 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,079 Speaker 1: so maybe that was the stuff I know. 227 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 4: But I'm thinking, like it's it's on the same season 228 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 4: that Jamie Walters is in who plays Ray with Donna, 229 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 4: and because later on he goes on to not be 230 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 4: nice to Donna, fans got really mad. 231 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: So I'm curious. 232 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 4: Why fans didn't get mad at not you, but you Peter. 233 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 3: Ray seemed like I just watched them. Yeah, I just 234 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 3: watched like most of the episodes just over, you know, 235 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 3: the last couple of days, and Ray seemed like he 236 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 3: was a lot meaner than me. He seemed like, I 237 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 3: don't know, demons, yeah, yeah, I mean, or he seemed 238 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 3: like he was. Yeah, he seemed like he just I 239 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: don't know. The moody, brooding, kind of bad boy guy. 240 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: But I think I was just maybe my character just 241 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 3: seemed to be having more fun, you know. I think 242 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 3: I was excited to be. 243 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:02,839 Speaker 2: You know, I don't know character is super likable, that's true. 244 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know, the most that I'd ever gotten 245 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 3: was people actually would say to me like, are you 246 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 3: that guy from And then I'd be like no, no, no, 247 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 3: and then they would say come on, come on mine. 248 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 3: I'd finally go yeah, and they go, no, you're not 249 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 3: shut up. Let me see your driver's license, prove it 250 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:20,240 Speaker 3: to me. 251 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. 252 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was funny that that happened. 253 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: You work so much in your early career. You were 254 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,719 Speaker 1: on an episode of Cheers, one of the best sitcoms 255 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: ever made television history. What was that like? 256 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was amazing. That was my first job in 257 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 3: Los Angeles. Oh yeah, that was so much fun, just 258 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 3: to be on that kind of iconic show, you know. Yeah, 259 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 3: that was that was great story too, because I was 260 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: in a play in Los Angeles and I you know 261 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 3: at the time when you used to send out postcards, 262 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 3: and I sent out postcards to casting people to come 263 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 3: see me. And Jeff Greenberg he actually he actually responded 264 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 3: and said that he wished he could have come because 265 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 3: he was going out of town and he couldn't make it. 266 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 3: But he did respond n Yeah, that was really nice. 267 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: And then something happened and he showed up. He actually 268 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: showed up and a week later, a week later, he 269 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: called me in to audition, and it was at that 270 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 3: time I was so excited. I remember the audition I 271 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: actually brought, you know, I brought in like I jumped 272 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 3: on the couch that he had in his office and 273 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 3: I sat on the back of the couch and it 274 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 3: was probably h too much. I wouldn't do that now, 275 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 3: but it was. I ended up getting it, and so 276 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: that was like a nice way to get a job 277 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 3: like that, you know, for being proactive and sending it. 278 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, taking matters in your own hands. 279 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 3: Yeah at that time when yeah, so that was yeah, 280 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 3: that was That was like my first job in LA 281 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 3: It's not on IMDb, but I had done when I 282 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 3: was you know, I'm from New Jersey, so uh, I 283 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 3: studied in New York and so I was in the 284 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 3: really young kind of when I was like thirteen years old, 285 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 3: and I ended up booking a job on World. According 286 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 3: to Garth in the movie. 287 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 288 00:15:37,080 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: So that was like my first job and that was 289 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 3: just an interesting to be on the set with, you know, 290 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 3: with Robin Williams. 291 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 2: And do you say thirteen. 292 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, wow, yeah I was. I was twelve or thirteen thirteen, 293 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 3: I think, yeah, yeah, I just played a young wrestler. 294 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: I told one joke, and the joke was, what's the 295 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: deafer of a brazier? It's an over the shoulder boulder holder. 296 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: Still, that's a good one. 297 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: That that was one line. 298 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: Awesome line, over the shoulder boulder holder. I love that. 299 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: I've said that a million times. 300 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that was the joke. 301 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: So you've stayed really busy through the years. What are 302 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: you working on now? Where are you living, what are 303 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: you working on? Tell us give us an update. 304 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: What's going on? Yeah, I mean this is still like 305 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 3: my first passion, I will, you know, honestly, I hope 306 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: that I get another opportunity on a show like, you know, 307 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 3: like to One now because that show was just so 308 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 3: amazing and it was such a fun job. But right now, 309 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 3: I've been honestly, since the Pandemic, you know, I'd worked 310 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 3: with Justine Bateman on a movie that she directed called 311 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 3: Violet with Olivia Mon and that was really fun to do. 312 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 3: Awesome and yeah, and then but during the pandemic, my 313 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 3: parents needed help, so I kind of been going back 314 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 3: and forth. They live in Las Vegas now, so that's 315 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 3: where I am right now. I'm kind of helping out 316 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,879 Speaker 3: my dad as my dad has gotten sick and he 317 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 3: has some health issues, and so I'm kind of juggling now. 318 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 3: I'm thankful though that, you know, I've had to be 319 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 3: able to spend time, you know, with them more than 320 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 3: I would have. Yeah, because of the pandemic. It's just 321 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: kind of and it wasn't COVID that they got sick with, 322 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: so it was kind of just weird timing. But I'm able. 323 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 3: I'm happy that I'm able to help out and just 324 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 3: kind of step in be able to Since they're in Vegas, 325 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 3: I can go back and forth between Los Angeles and Vegas. 326 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 3: And also with the remote auditioning where you can do 327 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 3: self tapes. 328 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: Online now and do things like this like talk to me. Yeah, 329 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: this is so awesome. 330 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 3: Really helpful is well, and and yeah, so you know, 331 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 3: I've been doing a lot of writing. I've written a 332 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 3: couple of scripts that I'm kind of in the process 333 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 3: of trying to to get made and you know, which 334 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 3: is not an easy task. 335 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like your priorities have just sort of 336 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 1: shifted as they as they do sometimes and and you'll 337 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: never know when another shift will come and you'll be 338 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 1: doing something completely different. But really, kudos to you for 339 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: stepping up for your parents. And I mean, you know 340 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: what it's like to be a caregiver. It's a lot, 341 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: and so. 342 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 3: It's been challenging. But yeah, but I'm I'm I'm happy 343 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 3: that I've been able to to stay connected to this. 344 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 3: And yes, it sort of kind of took a back 345 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,200 Speaker 3: seat during the pandemic as I guess we had a 346 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 3: big break as well. 347 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 2: Everyone. 348 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then going into the writer strike and then 349 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 3: the actors strike, say, it seems like it's been like, wow, you. 350 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: Know, yours a lot. 351 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 3: That's what it feels like. Yeah, that's been a big break, 352 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 3: and so it actually has got given me a little 353 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 3: more time to focus on this, this kind of caregiving 354 00:19:16,280 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: and also writing. 355 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: So, like I said, that's good, like keep your creative 356 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: juices working and you never know, like something will happen 357 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:26,399 Speaker 1: and things will. 358 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 2: Change that juices. 359 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but it's just really nice to talk to 360 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: you and see your face, and. 361 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: You know, I know this is the first time we're 362 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 3: actually meeting because on the set, I really, yeah. 363 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: We never met you. 364 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 1: I know, come on, we have to have met. I 365 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: met you, Gabrielle and Mark with Mark actually awesome. 366 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I see each other periodically and we 367 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 3: go have lunch. 368 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: He's great. 369 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 3: And and so Actually, and it was Luke. You know 370 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 3: that I met him because you know, he was in 371 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 3: one of the episodes that I was in. 372 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so I know I met you. 373 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 3: Maybe we met in the hall passing. I think, you know, 374 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 3: I remember I passed by Tiffany's room once. She's just 375 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 3: me a wave, welcome to the show. Wow. 376 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 2: Must have seen each other in the trailer and wardrobe. 377 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:34,879 Speaker 2: I'm still focused on that. 378 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, she'll DM you later when you actually met, and. 379 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 2: I'll literally remember it at some point. 380 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 3: I remember, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is 381 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 3: like the thirty year anniversary of that season. 382 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 1: I guess is it thirty there's numbers. 383 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 3: Grow out, numbers don't numbers that is not that is. 384 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: That It seems like more than that, honestly, But maybe 385 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 1: for this episode because this was in nineteen ninety. 386 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 3: Four, Right, so that's what I'm saying, we're. 387 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four, makes sense? 388 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, in season five because I was in season five, 389 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 3: so yep, midway now. It was kind of like I 390 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 3: got so comfortable on the show that I didn't feel 391 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: like a series regular. I was just like, well, I'm 392 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 3: not what's going? 393 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: Well, We're glad you feel comfortable. 394 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 3: I did. I felt comfortable. 395 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh my gosh, what would have happened if they 396 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,919 Speaker 4: had kept you guys together? What would have happened? 397 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 3: Like Jesse would be out? 398 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? 399 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 3: Who knows? They could have gone a million different ways 400 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: that I kept its secret for a very. 401 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: Long about that sometimes like what if? 402 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 3: What if? Yeah? I know that's true. What if? But 403 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 3: how long have you guys been doing this podcast? Is it? 404 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 1: Five seasons? 405 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 2: Five? 406 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: Five seasons, five and a half seasons? Now? It's really fun. 407 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: We're having a lot of fun and loving going back 408 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: and talking to some of the pivotal guests star is 409 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: like yourself, Yes, thank you, and just reconnecting and touch 410 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: base about where they are and what the experience was 411 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: like for them. So thank you for sharing your story 412 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: with us and spending some time with us. 413 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was. It was really wonderful. So thank 414 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 3: you for inviting me and having me and getting to 415 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 3: go down memory lane a little bit. And uh it 416 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 3: was a pleasure to actually for me to go back 417 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: and watch myself and I was like, is that me? Holy? 418 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, give yourself a little pat on the back. 419 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: You're awesome. 420 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 2: Definitely met you. 421 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you. She's still on it, she's. 422 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: Just talking about it. 423 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, you know, it's been a while and uh, 424 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 3: we didn't have any scenes together, so. 425 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 4: No, I know, I have a photographic memory, so I 426 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 4: definitely am remembering you right now. 427 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 2: I'll figure it out. And that's right. 428 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 4: I'll slide into your dam to let you know we 429 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 4: are you on Instagram. 430 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, uh huh, I am that's right. 431 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: Tell everybody it's your handle. What's your handle there? 432 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 3: It sounds weird at James C. Victor one, At James C. 433 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: Victor one. We will look for you, yes, okay, Thank 434 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: you all the best. To your parents, thank you, We'll 435 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: see you out there. 436 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: To your scripts coming to Fruition. 437 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 3: The Mind, thank you so much. It was really great 438 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 3: to see you guys, and thanks 439 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 1: You, James, thank you all right, thank you