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Speaker 1: Welcome back everybody. It is balls season for the Betting

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Speaker 1: Pros College Football preview show. I'm your host, Scott Bogman.

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Speaker 1: Follow me on the Twitter at Bogman Sports. I'm joined

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Speaker 1: as always by Thorn Knights from at thor k you

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Speaker 1: on the Twitter machine, and Mike Berrell at m beryl

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Speaker 1: Sports to ours too, L's on the Twitter. Gentlemen, we

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Speaker 1: got ten more bulls to go through, but before we do,

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Speaker 1: I want to remind everyone that we are going to

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Speaker 1: be doing a live show this Friday to talk about

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Speaker 1: some more balls. It will be airing at noon Eastern

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Speaker 1: on the Betting Pros YouTube show. I will be there,

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Speaker 1: Thor will be there, Mike will be there. I think

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Speaker 1: we may have some other people pop by.

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Speaker 2: Occasion, maybe some special guests.

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Speaker 1: Maybe even some special guests. So just a lot of

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Speaker 1: boll talk coming up your way on Betting Pros coming

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Speaker 1: up here. But gentlemen, we did have some balls play,

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Speaker 1: So Thor I'll kick it off with you. What have

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Speaker 1: you thought about the bulls that we've seen so far?

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Speaker 1: And I mean that one yesterday between Debbie and Old

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Speaker 1: Dominion was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was unless you had money on the Malachi

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Speaker 2: Corley overs in the prop market. Malachi Corley, what are

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Speaker 2: you doing? Man? Like you know, he had an announced I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna play. I want to finish the season out strong.

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Speaker 2: I want to get a win for the Hilltoppers. Then

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Speaker 2: you know, after one quarter, half of which was played

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Speaker 2: with the worst FBS quarterback I've ever seen in my life,

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Speaker 2: the nephew of the head coach Tyson Elton, the son

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Speaker 2: of Georgia Southern's head coach Clay. But then they put

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Speaker 2: in a competent quarterback. Halfway through the first quarter. Coraley

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Speaker 2: leaves and then w K you somehow screams back anyways,

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Speaker 2: and Corley finished two receptions under what what a cash is? Over?

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Speaker 2: But the Boll season so far has been great. Like

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Speaker 2: the Miami Applachia State game was fun. The Jacksonville State

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Speaker 2: Louisiana game was super duper fun. The w k U

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Speaker 2: ODU game was very fun in that it was the

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Speaker 2: biggest gag job yell ever see like that that game

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Speaker 2: was sort of handed to Western Kentucky the first sixteen minutes.

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Speaker 2: It was twenty eight to nothing. Oh to you, like

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Speaker 2: one minute into the second quarter and then oh to

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Speaker 2: you was just like, well to flight the ball from here.

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Speaker 2: Football doesn't work that way, and WK was able to

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Speaker 2: store them back. But yeah, fun ball season so far.

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Speaker 2: Excited to talk about the games coming up here now.

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Speaker 1: And Mike, you know you mentioned you don't really care

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Speaker 1: about location base bases in some of these bowls. New

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Speaker 1: Mexico State had the big advantage in the New Mexico Bawl,

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Speaker 1: but they got smoked. So your sage advice coming through

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Speaker 1: in that one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes it doesn't matter, especially with many Attendance isn't great.

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Speaker 3: And I know there was a lot of excitement about

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Speaker 3: that Bawl, but relative excitement WKU was fun. I mean,

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Speaker 3: that's what we play bowl games for. I'm not you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm a college football purist, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, but some of these bowl games are horrible, I'll admit,

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Speaker 4: and nobody cares about a lot of them.

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Speaker 3: But when you get a game like that, you know,

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Speaker 3: with food and comebacks and horrible quarterback play and you know,

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Speaker 3: a blown lead, that's what's fun. So, you know, the

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Speaker 3: Bold games have been entertaining so far. That's what we're

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Speaker 3: looking for from a gambling perspective. A little bit iffy

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Speaker 3: for me about fifty to fifty so far. I'm hoping

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Speaker 3: to do better.

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Speaker 1: December twenty third and work our way through to the

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Speaker 1: twenty six that's ten games, so we'll start with the

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Speaker 1: Camilla Bowl in Montgomery Alabama between Arkansas State, who is

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Speaker 1: a one point favorite first Northern Illinois and the total

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Speaker 2: I'm a little split myself. Arkansas State, they very impressive

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Speaker 2: And then last year the wheels fell off and part

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Speaker 2: also very good in bowl games. He's six to one

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Speaker 2: I came into this handicap, I was sitting pretty dead

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Speaker 2: this one, I think I'm gonna be on NIU in

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Speaker 1: It was minus three for Arkansas State. I think I

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Speaker 1: But it is Arkansas State by three right now.

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Speaker 2: These teams are pretty similar and they didn't in terms

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Speaker 2: I'm mostly talking about that Ohio against Georgia's Southern game.

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Speaker 2: If you can get three or above, I think there's

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Speaker 1: Uh, Farrell, where are you in this one? Are you

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna lean Arkansas State just because you.

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Speaker 3: Know, I'm not a big but Jones fan, but he

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Speaker 4: Uh you know Bowl games. He makes me money.

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Speaker 3: He's consistently done it over the years, and I think

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Speaker 3: So this team's starting to believe in him, and I

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Speaker 3: But I don't think in this one I'm going to

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Speaker 4: I'm going to go with Arkall Bugman.

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Speaker 2: One other thing, I would also lean towards the over.

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Speaker 2: but his teams also have a propensity to put up

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go over to the Birmingham Ball obviously

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Speaker 1: in Birmingham, Alabama. The game is Troy versus Duke. Troy

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Speaker 1: is a seven and a half point favorite. Forty four

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Speaker 2: the one who's been decimated here. Troy did have one

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Speaker 2: Troy side Javon Solomon, their stud edge defender. He's headed

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Speaker 2: almost a ninety PFF pass rush grade. That kid's good.

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Speaker 2: quarterback three is a freshman named Grayson Loftus started the

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Speaker 2: this one. If Bellen's out again, you're gonna have the

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Speaker 2: news for Troy. Troy the way that they play, they

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Speaker 2: nearly as many assistant coaches. Duke has the makeshift staff,

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Speaker 1: Barrel, are you on that as well? Do you think, Look,

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Speaker 1: there's just too many missing pieces of Duke. We don't

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Speaker 4: It's definitely not.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it certainly helps their in Birmingham, but I

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Speaker 3: It's more we've seen Duke without Riley Leonard. We've seen

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Speaker 4: Without Mike Elcho. But Mike Elko is the guy who

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Speaker 3: He brought all his assistants and not all of them,

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Speaker 3: same football team. You know, if Ryla Leonard who only

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Speaker 4: And when he's not in there, it's kind.

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Speaker 3: Of really difficult to watch Duke play offense. Defensively, they're

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the famous Idaho potato ball,

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Speaker 1: of course from Boise, Idaho. Georgia State is playing Utah State.

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Speaker 1: In this game, a line is you toss State by

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Speaker 1: The total is dancing here. It's fifty to fifty on tickets.

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Speaker 1: So it seems like most betters like Utah State, but

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Speaker 2: I like Utasa as well. Yeah, I'm definitely with the

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Speaker 2: they just never seem to really coalise. I own Marcus

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Speaker 2: these inexperienced guys that are just total question marks. Georgia

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Speaker 2: I mean, in full go. Outside of that, Utah State

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Speaker 2: They should have been better in terms of if you

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Speaker 2: just look at their talent, they played down all year.

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Speaker 2: Now their best skill guys are out. They do. I

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Speaker 2: believe they're going to have their quarterback in this unless

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Speaker 2: That's going to hurt Georgia State as well. Didn't like

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Speaker 2: Happy to lay the number, Mike.

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Speaker 1: Are you with thorw on? That is a Utah State

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Speaker 1: Just Georgia State's missing too much. They played down Utah

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I think Georgia State missing those running backs is

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Speaker 4: That's what they need to do.

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Speaker 3: If not that, it's a short passing game and that's

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Speaker 3: going to be impaired as well. You know, Utah State's

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Speaker 3: despite the fact that Utah State plays a high tempo

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Speaker 4: We don't know what these guys can do. We haven't

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Speaker 3: Some of them maybe better than you know. The guys

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Speaker 4: So I'm taking Utah State as well to cover.

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Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the Armed Forces Bowl from

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Speaker 1: Fort Worth, Texas. James Madison is a two and a

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Speaker 1: half point favorite against Air Force. The total is forty

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Speaker 1: one and thor in this game. We know James Madison.

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Speaker 1: You know, they protested they got a bowl game here.

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Speaker 1: This is not the bowl game they wanted though, after

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Speaker 1: how you see this game playing out? Like the public?

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Speaker 2: It is yeah, and you're totally right. Troy Calhoun, the

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Speaker 1: I have lost money on a betting against Air Force

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like they just do the same stuff

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Speaker 2: On the air Force side, they of course around eighty

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Speaker 2: He took multiple of his assistant coaches with him. So

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Speaker 2: Then you have this FCS guy, Bob Chesney, Bob Kenny

433
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,879
Speaker 2: Chesney who's coming up from Holy Cross after this game.

434
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 2: But then you also have multiple key guys who are injured,

435
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 2: confirmed out, and numerous guys who are in the transfer portal.

436
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,440
Speaker 2: I'll get back to those guys in a second. Injuries

437
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 2: really matter here. On the JMU side. Jalen Green, their

438
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 2: edge rusher, when he got knocked out for this season

439
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 2: in November, was leading the nation by margin in sacks

440
00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: with fifteen and a half. Same thing with tackles for las.

441
00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,200
Speaker 2: He also had fifty three pressures in only nine and

442
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 2: a half games. Again, he's out for the season. They

443
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,960
Speaker 2: also lost their starting left tackle for this season in

444
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 2: mid November. So those are the guys that we know

445
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 2: are out. Now this is where it gets a little

446
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 2: bit wonky because JMU has all these key contributors that

447
00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 2: are in the portal and they're playing a bit cagy.

448
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: This interim slapped together staff of well they could all

449
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: play right, which, by the way, same exact thing that

450
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 2: Tyson Helton, the WKU coach had about his guys that

451
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 2: were in the portal. You have some staffs and some

452
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:47,400
Speaker 2: coaches that want to be deliberately evasive about this because

453
00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 2: they think it gives them an advantage. And I suppose

454
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 2: if I was jmu's coach, I'd probably do the same thing.

455
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 2: But desperation is a stinky coloonne As you boys know,

456
00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 2: we'll run through these really quick. Jordan McLeod, they're starting quarterback,

457
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:02,719
Speaker 2: is really good this year. He's in the portal. He

458
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 2: has given indications that he will play, but we don't know. Then.

459
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 2: They're starting tackle Tyler Stevens, he is also in the portal.

460
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 2: Took about all their offensive snaps this year. Both their

461
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:17,240
Speaker 2: starting defensive tackles are in the portal. Two of their

462
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 2: starting linebackers and their most used guy that comes in

463
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 2: off the bencher in the portal, and then a heavily

464
00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 2: used rotational cornerback also in the portal. Again, Jmu is

465
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 2: claiming each and every one of these guys is going

466
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: to play in the game. That is a lie, That

467
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 2: is disingenuous. It's just that we don't know which ones

468
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: will and will not. And I didn't say in the

469
00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 2: Holiday and Express last night, so I'm not gonna guess.

470
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 2: But you have to nick Jmu for that stuff. Whereas

471
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: not only is air Force at you know, full capacity,

472
00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 2: they also have a history of doing really really well

473
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: in bollseason. This thing being you know, you're getting two

474
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 2: and a half or whatever it is with air Force.

475
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: Air Force should be favorite in this one. Air Force

476
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:58,880
Speaker 2: gonna win this game.

477
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Speaker 1: Mike, do you great? Is an air Force is going

478
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 1: to win because of what everything Thorn and I have

479
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,959
Speaker 1: said here. It's too many transfers, not maybe not the

480
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 1: effort that you thought because you're in a smaller bowl game.

481
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 4: Ye, the air Force is going to win this game.

482
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 4: Troyo Calhoun does a tremendous job, you know, preparing his teams.

483
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 3: We all know you need to be prepared against air

484
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 3: Force if they have time to prepare for you. Jim

485
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 3: us a bit disarray. You know, a couple of kids

486
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 3: jumped into portal. They don't have bad things to say.

487
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 3: You know, it's a great season, but nobody knows what's

488
00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 3: going on there. They've got an offensive line as the

489
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 3: offensive line coach, legitimately a player who was hurt who's

490
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 3: for the season.

491
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 4: I can't remember his name.

492
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 3: He's in the portal, but he's he's he's going to

493
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 3: be their offensive line coach. Like the staff is in

494
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 3: this array, it's going to lead to poor preparation. I

495
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 3: think this is an easy air force is always prepared.

496
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 3: They've disappointed me a couple times this season, but they're

497
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,960
Speaker 3: always prepared. They always do well in bowl games. This

498
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 3: is an easy money line that, you know, one of

499
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,680
Speaker 3: the easier bets. I think of this, this ten game

500
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 3: stretch we're talking about.

501
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to the sixty eight Ventures Bowl

502
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: in Mobile, Alabama. Is South Alabama as a seventeen point

503
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: favorite versus Eastern Michigan. Forty six and a half is

504
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: the total here? This one might be one door where

505
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: the location does matter, and I think that is why,

506
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: because people are laying the points to seventeen for South Alabama.

507
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: Now tickets and cash heavily favoring South Alabama. Tickets of

508
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: cash kind of more trending towards the under, but much

509
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: closer to the fifty percent mark. So how do you

510
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: see this game plan?

511
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,920
Speaker 2: You definitely have to factor it in. You know, South

512
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: Alabama playing on their home field essentially, I mean not essentially,

513
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 2: just literally as a home game. EMU should have some

514
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: fans there. But you know, like I said, home game

515
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 2: for South Alabama, I think this one's gone too far,

516
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 2: especially now that it's hit seventeen. I have not locked

517
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 2: in a bet on this game because I projected it

518
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: to go. I didn't know I was going to reach chevente.

519
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,200
Speaker 2: And I mean this thing has really gotten helium here.

520
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 2: As far as the support with South Alabama, I might

521
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 2: be getting greedy. I'm waiting for a seventeen and a

522
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 2: half with the EMU, and you know, let's dive into

523
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 2: this handicap right now. So South Alabama they have this

524
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 2: stud running back la Damian Webb hasn't played the last

525
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 2: few games. Declared for the NFL Draft. He may not

526
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 2: have played in this game anyway. He had a toe injury,

527
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 2: but he made that thing official by declaring for the

528
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 2: NFL Draft. South Alabama is by far the wide receiver

529
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 2: one as well. Colin Lacy he is not going to

530
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 2: play in this game because he entered the transfer portal,

531
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,840
Speaker 2: which stinks for them because they had a couple of

532
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 2: wide receiver injuries during the season. So then Lazy was

533
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 2: getting pounded with all these targets, so he's gone as well.

534
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,640
Speaker 2: Then South Alabama's quarterback probably is not going to play

535
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,359
Speaker 2: in this game. I mean, we'll see, but Carter Bradley

536
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 2: had a knee injury. Basically over the entire second half

537
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 2: of the season, they would try to play him, then

538
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: he would get reaggravated to take him out. It was

539
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 2: like again the last half of the season, every single

540
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: week going into it is like, Carter Bradley gonna play whatever.

541
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to. So we're gonna get

542
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 2: Desmond Trotter. I believe on the South Alabama side their

543
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 2: backup quarterback. He does have experience. He's been the starter

544
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 2: in the past and he did okay. In fact, in

545
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 2: the last game of the season was he was pretty

546
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 2: good and when eighteen eighteen for twenty one for two

547
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 2: hundred and sixteen yards, four touchdown passes. But I don't

548
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 2: you don't trust Desmond Trotter nearly as much as Carter Bradley.

549
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: I mean the staff on South Alabama doesn't. And then

550
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: the starting left tackle for South Alabama as well missed

551
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: the season finale status very much up in the air.

552
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 2: So that's on the South Alabama side. Those are significant losses.

553
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: The EMU side, so their starting quarterback, this Austin Smith

554
00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 2: kid is in the portal. Austin Smith not a great player.

555
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: Now that the backup there, we've only seen him throw

556
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 2: twenty eight passes, didn't do great in that. But the

557
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,360
Speaker 2: backup Ike ad Engu I hope I'm pronouncing the last

558
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: name right. We know that he has a dual threat game.

559
00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 2: So at the very minimum, he can steal yards by

560
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 2: chipping away and probably think of him like for mac

561
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 2: enthusiast Max and enthusiasts out there, kind of like Avion

562
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 2: Smith from Miami, Ohio, the kid that would take over

563
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,359
Speaker 2: for Gabert when he went down. So EMU is going

564
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,239
Speaker 2: to be, you know, again, trying to chip away at

565
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 2: the sticks with the short stuff. Only other opt outs

566
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 2: really that matter. They had a starting linebacker opt out

567
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: on the MU side, and then a couple of rotational

568
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 2: guys on both sides of the line. I think again,

569
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: I just think this line has gone too far. My

570
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 2: line on this game is South Alabama minus eleven point two.

571
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 2: You're now at seventeen again. I'm gonna be waiting for

572
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 2: that seventeen and a half and just pray that I

573
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: get it. But I'm behooved not only by I think

574
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: just objectively, quantifiably there's value on Eastern Michigan, but also

575
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 2: I believe Chris Creighton is one of the more underrated

576
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: coaches in the nation. Like I've started to think about

577
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 2: him like I used to think about Frank Solich, just

578
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 2: criminally underrated. People just overlook him. Chris Creighton. Not only

579
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: is he a really good coach, He's four and one

580
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 2: against the spread in bowl games. Did I love the

581
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: talent on EMU this year. No, In fact, it was

582
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 2: the opposite, which is why it's so impressive that they

583
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: are here. They wanted to be here. Creighton did an

584
00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: awesome job this year. And by the way, speaking on

585
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: bull success, Kane Womack on the other side, mister Kane Womack,

586
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: who was speaking to a couple of different schools about

587
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: their head coaching vacancies during bull preparation. Didn't end up

588
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: getting one of those jobs. Owen won during his career

589
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 2: in bulls, both straight up and against the spread, and people,

590
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 2: even with short memories, will remember that one. It was

591
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 2: last year against Western Kentucky, a Western Kentucky team that

592
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: was decimated by opt outs. Austin Reid the whole pre

593
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: draft or the pre bowl preparation was looking at transfer

594
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 2: portal destinations. Then Western Kentucky's like, we'll give you a

595
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: red Corvette to come back, and Austin Reed's like, oh sweet,

596
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: so he comes back like three days before the game

597
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: had not really been in the bull praxis. Everyone in

598
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: their mother was on South Alabama in that game because

599
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: of course they were just absolutely going to clean the

600
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 2: clock of this decimated Western Kentucky team with a quarterback

601
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 2: who had divided attention. Western Kentucky won that game forty

602
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: four to twenty three, absolutely throttled South Alabama. This one

603
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 2: looks like it's going to be you know again, It's like, oh,

604
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: South Alabama's going to throttle them. I don't trust South Alabama,

605
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,479
Speaker 2: especially with the losses that they had. I'm gonna ride

606
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,280
Speaker 2: with Chris Creighton here to take those points.

607
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: Mike, what do you think are you on the are

608
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 1: you on the South Alabama side like like Thor said,

609
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: big home field advantage or is this just straight up

610
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: too many points and to that points?

611
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just too many points in a bowl especially.

612
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Eastern Michigan does not have a

613
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 4: ton of talents. They're kind of.

614
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: Like scrapping things together to get to a bowlded season.

615
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: It's been a lot of you know, determined effort to

616
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 3: overcome you know, a lot of polls on the depth chart, a.

617
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 4: Good coaching job to do.

618
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: So I don't think they're very good, but seventeen in

619
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: that neighborhood is just way too many points. I mean,

620
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 3: Eastern Michigan can at least keep this game close if

621
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 3: they don't win it outright, which you know what happened

622
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 3: last year against Western Kentucky. I don't think that's going

623
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,960
Speaker 3: to happen this year. I think, you know, South Alabama's

624
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 3: going to be learning from that, you know, mistake, overlooking somebody,

625
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 3: you know, a little overconfident. They're going to be at home,

626
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 3: They're going to want to play.

627
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 4: Well.

628
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: I think they're going to win the football game, but

629
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 3: they're not gonna win by seventeen. I mean maybe ten.

630
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 3: If this line were ten, I'd have a difficult time

631
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: with it. At seventeen, I don't have a difficult time

632
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: at all. Definitely take in Eastern Michigan.

633
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,360
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646
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: is the total. And I gotta tell you, I was

647
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 1: surprised by this majority of tickets on the Northwestern side

648
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: for cat for straight up for cash and tickets and

649
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: just slightly on the under in this game as well.

650
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 1: Are you on the Northwestern side with the public or

651
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: is this just too much? I don't care how many transfers,

652
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: I don't care how many guys are leaving. We gotta

653
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: go with Utah each one.

654
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: I thought I would be on Northwestern and deeper. I

655
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: got into this one. I'm not I'm against the market

656
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: on this one. I'm on Utah. I'm gonna lay it.

657
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: I think this line should be over a touchdown. My

658
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 2: line on this game after you wash out all the

659
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: opt outs and different stuff like that. I got Utah

660
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: minus eight, So if I can lay less than a

661
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: touchdown with the uts, I'm gonna do it. Getting into

662
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: the opt outs. Backup quarterback for Utah is opting out

663
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: Nate Johnson. He's already picked his next destination. But Utah

664
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: got good news with the starting quarterback Bryson Barnes. You know,

665
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: the kid that took over most of year, took five

666
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: hundred and forty steps when Rising went down. He's in

667
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 2: the portal, but he's going to play in this game.

668
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: So that's good news for them. U tell us a

669
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: couple of starting wide receivers but they don't throw the

670
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 2: ball awesome either way. And neither of the guys was,

671
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: you know, difference maker Vele and Mikey Matthews. I don't

672
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: really care about that. The only other ones that they had,

673
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 2: it's in the secondary that matter. Starting quarterback Broughton out

674
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 2: and then Cole Bishop starting safety. He's the one who

675
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: entered the NFL draft or declayed for the NFL draft Utah.

676
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 2: You also have to talk about their injuries. Thomas Yasmin,

677
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 2: he got knocked out for the season five games in.

678
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 2: They had a couple of backup running backs who got

679
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 2: knocked out for the season. Then edge rusher, starting edge

680
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 2: rusher who got knocked out. Although the backup's been very

681
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 2: very good, so that one sort of mitigates that one.

682
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 2: And then Lander Barton, you got to talk about that.

683
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: One of the better linebackers in the nation. He was

684
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: lost believe either in late October or early November. He

685
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 2: played eight games this year, very very good player. The backup, though,

686
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: I will say, has been good at least as a

687
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 2: run defender. Very good. Actually, this kid named Levannie Demoni.

688
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 2: He had thirty three stops on and only a sub

689
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 2: ten percent misstackle rate very strong tw go right for him.

690
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 2: So that's on the one side, and then on the

691
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: Northwestern side, not as many opt out's. They they had

692
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: a starting left guard who took all the snaps and actually,

693
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 2: over his four year career, took took quite a bit

694
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 2: of snaps. This kid named Josh Preeby. He's out and

695
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: a good guard. More or less, outside of that, they

696
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: were able to avoid the defections. They also have a

697
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 2: starting strong safety who missed the last two games of

698
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 2: the year. Coco is a Zema. I believe it's like Zema.

699
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: Remember remembers Vima Farrel way back in the day. Some

700
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 2: of our audience isn't good. Yeah, some of our audience

701
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: ain't gonna get that reference. But you know, again, like

702
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: I like the way Northwestern played all year behind the

703
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 2: bron guy, uh, you know, the guy who got elevated

704
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,839
Speaker 2: because the scandal with the hazing stuff with Fitzgerald shockingly

705
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 2: got I mean, like, you know, their win total in

706
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 2: the preseason markets was three and they obviously rally into

707
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: this game that they played above their head the entire season.

708
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: But Utah, they have more talent and I trust the

709
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 2: coach obviously quite a bit more. I think Kyle Whittingham

710
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 2: is a top ten coach in the nation, and he's

711
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: facing essentially this greenhorn. Even though you love the effort

712
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 2: that Northwestern has put in, Utah has the pieces here,

713
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: starting quarterback playing. They have an awesome running back room.

714
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: Even still, I mean Jackson's stud when they need to,

715
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 2: they move their their superstar safety. There's those couple of

716
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 2: games where he was doing playing both ways and playing

717
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: awesome whatnot and winning. Ham is a very good history

718
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: in ball season. He's ten and six against the spread,

719
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 2: actually start eight and three against the spread in his

720
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: first eleven, one in three against spread his last four

721
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 2: for Whittingham, but again, over the course of the thing,

722
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 2: very very good. I like Utah in this one. I

723
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: think that you know, Whittingham personally gets back on track

724
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 2: in terms of ball season, sort of runs it back

725
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 2: to the beginning of his career. They have more weapons here.

726
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 2: I think they run all over Northwestern in this one.

727
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 2: I think they win by double digits.

728
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: Mike, what do you think about the Las Vegas ball

729
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: You think Utah is good enough to do this still?

730
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: Or are you signed with the public and going with Northwestern?

731
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 3: No, I'm fading the public on this one too. I've

732
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: been on Utah season long. It hasn't worked out every time,

733
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,439
Speaker 3: but just a really really good coach, hall of fame

734
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 3: coach as his team prepared, they have more talent, you know,

735
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: the Brown I mean, you know, Big ten coach of

736
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 3: the year, amazing job, just absolutely amazing. You know, one

737
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 3: and eleven last year an absolute train wreck. Then the

738
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 3: whole scandal at the beginning of the season, and he

739
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: takes over as the interim every He's like this poor guy. Literally,

740
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: that's what we said, this poor guy the first year

741
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 3: here he's being thrown the keys to this mess of

742
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 3: a program and he brings it to a bowl game.

743
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: It's amazing, but they don't have the dogs to match

744
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 3: up here. Utah, even missing players, is still a much

745
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 3: more vumerable roster. You know what, A him does well

746
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: in bowl games, as we mentioned the last few times

747
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:06,720
Speaker 3: he has, but he's been playing really elite teams. Against

748
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,800
Speaker 3: the Northwestern he can cover this easily. I think it

749
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: win by ten points.

750
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is gonna be I'm with you, guys. I'm

751
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: also on the Utah side. Got not a not a

752
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: lot of disagreements here, gentlemen, We get. I mean, look,

753
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 1: I think when you get deeper into the season, you

754
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: know more about these teams, so obviously there's gonna be

755
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 1: more agreements. But I think you guys have only differed

756
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: on the very first game that we talked about, So

757
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: very interesting. There the last game on Saturday that will

758
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: cover as a Hawaii bull from Honolulu. It's Coastal Carolina

759
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: versus San Jose State. San Jose State is a ten

760
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 1: and a half point favorite. Fifty two and a half

761
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,320
Speaker 1: is the total. I would say this game is more

762
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: fifty to fifty on the side, but the total is

763
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,439
Speaker 1: solidly on the under here thor what do you see

764
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: between Coastal Carolina versus San Jose State? Who is a

765
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: ten point favorite?

766
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 2: First of all, I love this this pre Christmas Eve,

767
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: the late night game in Honolulu. It's like a yearly tradition.

768
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 2: Some years it was on Christmas Eve. I actually like

769
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: that even more. I'm kind of a sickle like that.

770
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 2: But only the people out there who like to sneak

771
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 2: away from the family on Chrisas Eve night are nodding

772
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 2: their heads with me right now. But I love that

773
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,279
Speaker 2: ball game on there. But you know, either way, this

774
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: is a fun one. This is another one where I

775
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 2: went into it thinking I was going to be on

776
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 2: one side and I ended up on another one. I

777
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 2: thought I was going to be on San Jose State.

778
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,479
Speaker 2: I you know, that was a team I like during

779
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: this season. They have the powerful offense, or at least

780
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 2: an offense that becomes powerful against teams that can't tackle

781
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 2: in space. They're not super explosive, but they have the

782
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 2: running game going for them, both in terms of the

783
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,040
Speaker 2: running back Robinson and then Cordero also scrambles around of course,

784
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: and then they have that quick hitting passing game. So

785
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 2: it's you know, sort of the De Troy of the

786
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,959
Speaker 2: West Coast in terms of the G five in terms

787
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 2: of that stuff. Very efficient offense, and then Coastal had

788
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 2: a billion guys enter the portal and when you look

789
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,640
Speaker 2: at it like on this surface, you're like, oh god,

790
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 2: you know, your eyes kind of get wide. They're not

791
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 2: as debilitating to the viability of Coastal Carolina in this

792
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: game as I think meets the eye, which I'll get

793
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,399
Speaker 2: into in a second. Starting with the San Jose State side,

794
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: they're starting tight end opted out of this game, and

795
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: then there's stud left tackle. This this thing might get overlooked.

796
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: But this Fernander Carmona kid who entered the portal absolute

797
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: stud power. Five blue Bloods are fighting over this kid

798
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 2: in the transfer portal, longtime stalwart there. So Corderio's gonna

799
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: have a different blind side blocker. San Jose State likes

800
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,439
Speaker 2: to throw. Maybe you mitigate that a little bit by

801
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 2: you know, the quick hitting thing. They don't keep them

802
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 2: back in the pocket a ton, But that appreciates the

803
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 2: offensive line for sure. On the San Jose State side.

804
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: They also lost a linebacker as a contributor. On the

805
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 2: Coastal Carolina side, Again, like I said, you look at

806
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 2: the list, it's like, oh my gosh. You know it's

807
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 2: headlined by Grayson McCall. Then the guy who is the

808
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: QB two more the year at least started at Jared

809
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 2: Guess he's in there. A running back CJ. Beasley. We

810
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 2: know about him going back years. Jared Brown, the wide

811
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 2: receiver was an impact guy. He's in there as well.

812
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 2: But then you know, you keep going down. A starting

813
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 2: linebacker went in there, JT. Colleen. Outside of that, it

814
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 2: wasn't really any high impact guys. It was just a

815
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,319
Speaker 2: ton of backups. Backups essentially who got stuck there when

816
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: Chadwell left and then Beck came in and then they're like,

817
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,600
Speaker 2: I'm calling uncle now, I want to go someplace else.

818
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: At this point, may maybe that, you know, again, it

819
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 2: depreciates the depth a little bit, But as far as

820
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 2: the impact, guys, I don't think it matters as much

821
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 2: as the market is. As much as the market obviously

822
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 2: does based on where this line has gotten, I will

823
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: just start with McCall. McCall played way down this year

824
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: without Chadwell. I, you know, reticent to say he's a

825
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: product at Chadwell. No I'm not. He's a product at Chadwell.

826
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 2: Jared Guests stunk when he's in. Like Jared Guests has

827
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 2: been bad going back years. This third stringer that they have,

828
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: Ethan Vasco, who came in, started the last This is

829
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 2: going to be his fourth game, so he started three

830
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: games during the regular season. He opened my eyes during

831
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 2: the regular season. I bet against Colsta Carolina a couple

832
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: of times when I knew they were down to Vasco,

833
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,240
Speaker 2: and he burned me. This is a kid who runs around,

834
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 2: very very effective scrambler. He was also way better through

835
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: the air. I think that people would, you know, think

836
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: from him being a third stringer fifty six of eighty

837
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 2: nine this season on his attempts five hundred and seventy

838
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 2: four yards four to one TD and T rate, and again,

839
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: he's better as a runner. You have to respect that

840
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,719
Speaker 2: kid getting out of the pocket. There was one game

841
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 2: he ran for Danny the one hundred and fifty yards,

842
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 2: So if you don't respect that, I mean, he's gonna

843
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 2: rip you on the ground. But he's also shown some

844
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: viability as a passer. Jared Brown's a good player, but

845
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,680
Speaker 2: they have a better one in a wide receiver in

846
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: Sam Pingney Kim and Jamison Tucker. Jameis and Tucker are

847
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 2: very good receiver as well. They're just gonna get more

848
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 2: targets in this game. I'm not going to say that

849
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 2: that is non impact all, but if you funnel that

850
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 2: the usage to Pinkney and Tucker, it could be negligible.

851
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: They have a kid named Kyrie Dupless coming into the

852
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: starting lineup for Brown. That's certainly a downgrade, but again,

853
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 2: you just changed the usage a little bit. You sort

854
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: of paper over that thing. And then the JT. Khalen

855
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:21,919
Speaker 2: kid that the linebacker I was referring to, I'm sorry

856
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: if his family's listening, he's not a loss at all.

857
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: Twenty two point four missed tackle rate percentage. He missed

858
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: more than one out of every five tackle attempts he

859
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 2: had this year. His PFF grade was fifty seven flat

860
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: not good. So you know, again you you first impression,

861
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: it's like, oh gosh, Coastal is decimated in this game.

862
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: I actually don't think they are. You know, the pieces

863
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 2: they lost can be replaced. The other ones where guys

864
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 2: they weren't using any way. And I just think this

865
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: line has gotten too far. My line has certainly beneath that.

866
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 2: My line San Jose State minus seven point four. You know,

867
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 2: so this thing in double digits. I think Coastal is

868
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 2: a value here. I'm gonna rive with Coastal in this game.

869
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: And Mike, are you with Thor and Coastal in this game?

870
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: Or are you on the other side taking San Jose

871
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 1: State and land the points.

872
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:17,800
Speaker 3: It's another agreement. But it's not because they weren't decimated.

873
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 3: I think they did lose a lot. It's because it's

874
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 3: too much of a line. I mean it's too big.

875
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, it should be seven and a half,

876
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 3: should be seven in that range.

877
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 4: You know, I want to take Santa. I don't really like.

878
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 3: Back, I don't really like Coastal Carolina, and never really

879
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 3: like McCall. You know, and down to your third string quarterback,

880
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 3: you're thinking, Okay, these guys are in trouble, but ten

881
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: and a half way too much.

882
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 4: As he mentioned, you.

883
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 3: Know, they've got some guys that could step in and

884
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: make plays. You know, the dual threat aspect of quarterback

885
00:44:56,239 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 3: is going to be a little bit tricky. Cordona's in

886
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: his left tackle. There's just there's too many things here

887
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,320
Speaker 3: that tell me this is going to be a eight

888
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: point seven point game, not a ten and a half

889
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 3: point spread.

890
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 4: So I'm going to take close to Carolina. I don't

891
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 4: like it, but I don't know why this line got

892
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 4: out of hand. It's too much.

893
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: All right, Let's jump forward a couple days after Saturday.

894
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 1: No games on Sunday or Monday, so we go to Tuesday,

895
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: the twenty six. We start at the quick Lane Bowl

896
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: in Detroit. It's bowling Green versus Minnesota. Minnesota is a

897
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: three and a half point favorite. Thirty nine and a

898
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: half is the total here. Tickets and cash a little

899
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: bit on Minnesota, but everything is favoring the under as well.

900
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: And let me tell you last time I bet on

901
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: this game, I took Minnesota and Bowling Green beat them

902
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: straight up floor. I was very upset. I still remember

903
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: losing that bet. I not only had it separate, I

904
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:50,320
Speaker 1: had it involved in a couple parlays where it was

905
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: the only side that missed. That was I think two

906
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,319
Speaker 1: or three years ago. So and I'm still mad about it.

907
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,479
Speaker 1: So I obviously don't know how to pick this game.

908
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: I would take Minnesota as well, But what do you

909
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: think between Bowling Green and Minnesota in the quick lane.

910
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is another one where I went into it

911
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 2: thinking I'd be on one side, and as I got

912
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 2: deeper in the handicap, I flipped to the other side.

913
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: I was sitting dead red on taking Bowling Green in

914
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 2: this game. Bob, and I remember that game distinctly. Of course,

915
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,720
Speaker 2: I live in Minneapolis. I was watching that one and PJ.

916
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 2: Fleck has been reminded about losing to Bowling Green now

917
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 2: for seven hundred plus days. At this point, I mean,

918
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: it is one of these stains on him. At Minnesota

919
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: and then the Gophers this year went five and seven.

920
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:41,919
Speaker 2: There wasn't heat on them but there was a lot

921
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 2: of grumbling and PJ. Fleck, like, you know, I mean

922
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 2: people the stick and stuff like that. The guy's got

923
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: an ego. He doesn't like that, and he's one of

924
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: those guys who will grind harder in that case and

925
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 2: push harder. If PJ. Fleck loses to Bowling Green again,

926
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 2: he's going to become a quasi joke in the Twin Cities.

927
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: They will bring it up until he leaves. PJ. Fleck

928
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,880
Speaker 2: cannot lose this game. He can't not to this opponent.

929
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 2: He literally cannot, because again it's just going to become

930
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 2: this running joke. There's the motivation factor. It's a hidden one, right,

931
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,879
Speaker 2: Like you look at this game and it's like, oh,

932
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: Bowling Green and they get to face this five and

933
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: seven Big ten team. Why would the five and seven

934
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 2: big team Big ten team care? Bowling Green has been

935
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 2: in the Quick Laying Bowl before. In fact, it was

936
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,959
Speaker 2: about three hundred and sixty five days ago they lost

937
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 2: to Jerry Kill in New Mexico State as favorites in

938
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: that game. And by the way, contextually, I think this

939
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 2: is worth noting it's the only time Jerry Kill has

940
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 2: ever won in a bowl game. Jerry Kill has been

941
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 2: awful in Bowl season outside of upsetting Bowling Green last year.

942
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 2: But let's get into the opt outs really quick. The Gophers,

943
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: I think one of the reasons this line has gotten

944
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,719
Speaker 2: a little bit lower is you see the Aight and

945
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,839
Speaker 2: caliac Manus. They're starting core back that he transferred out.

946
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: The backups gone too, they have to fall down into

947
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 2: the I'm sorry third stringers out. So the second stringer

948
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 2: Cole Kramer is gonna be starting in this one. He's

949
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: only attempted fourteen fourteen passes his entire career. He's a

950
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 2: fifth year player, So I mean, you look at that

951
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 2: and you're like, it's get only had fourteen passes entire

952
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: career over five years, and this is last game. You

953
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 2: know we're gonna nick them quite a bit for that.

954
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 2: That was the only loss that the Golphers had in

955
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 2: terms of opt out that matters at all. I would argue,

956
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say it's zero impact. It's way less

957
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 2: than the market is indicating here. Athan Kelly, like man

958
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 2: is stunk this year. I can tell you guys, the

959
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 2: Golphers did not mind losing Athan. It wasn't totally that

960
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: they just gave him a boot in the rear. But

961
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 2: in the postseason discussion and they let you say, the

962
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,880
Speaker 2: Gophers were fine that you know, in terms of that

963
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,240
Speaker 2: maybe even nudging them a little bit towards the portal.

964
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 2: They immediately and by the way, it wasn't even immediately

965
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 2: signed this New Hampshire transfer. They publicly put it out

966
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 2: there two days before Athan announceds his that he was

967
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 2: entering the transfer portal, that they had offered this ked right,

968
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: and then the new Hampshire starter he signed like a

969
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 2: day or two later. The Gophers didn't care that they

970
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 2: lost a than Coliac Manus. They probably wanted to I

971
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:23,959
Speaker 2: Cole Kramer well out to see Cole Cosmo Kramer again.

972
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 2: He's only thrown fourteen passes over a five year career,

973
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 2: but caliak Mannus gave them very very little this year.

974
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 2: And by the way, his transfer process, by the way,

975
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 2: to this point, been eerily quiet. The one visit he's

976
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,440
Speaker 2: taken so far is may or may not have been

977
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 2: a favor from his former offensive coordinator Kirk Saraka at Rutgers.

978
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,320
Speaker 2: Literally the only one he's taken so far in two weeks.

979
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 2: I don't think that one matters. And here's something that does.

980
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,440
Speaker 2: Tyler Numan, their stud safety, has not opted out yet,

981
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,920
Speaker 2: and you would think like, oh, he's going to opt out,

982
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 2: Like why wouldn't he opt out? Tyler Nuban could go

983
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 2: in the first round. Well, the Gopher players don't typically

984
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 2: opt out of ball games, and in fact, they tend

985
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,959
Speaker 2: to stay longer than almost at any program in the nation.

986
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 2: Think back to all the six year guys that they've

987
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 2: had or guys that stayed when they could have declared

988
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 2: for the NFL Draft. They have a ton of them,

989
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: and they don't really have a ton of bull opt

990
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,720
Speaker 2: outs either. One other thing on the Gopher side, Darius Taylor,

991
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 2: there's stud freshman running back. He's been out for the

992
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 2: last couple of games. He missed games earlier in the

993
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 2: year as well. I think the public believes that he

994
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 2: is not going to play, which would stink for the

995
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 2: Gophers if he didn't, because they were down all the

996
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 2: way to Tyler Nuben's brother, Jordan, who's a true freshman,

997
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 2: because they had lost their second and third string running

998
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 2: backs as well, so they'd go all the way down

999
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 2: the depth charts to this Jordan nubencause he did run

1000
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: for over one hundred yards when he got his start.

1001
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: There's an idea out there that Darius Taylor is not

1002
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 2: going to play in this game. Let's just say I

1003
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 2: got it on good authority that as long as he

1004
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 2: is cleared, as long as he's cleared and he's feeling

1005
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: good in the day two leading up to this game,

1006
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,200
Speaker 2: he's going to play. First of all, he has already

1007
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 2: announced it. He's coming back to school. The Gopher signed

1008
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: cybang Gera today. We're recording this on Tuesday. Taylor's intended

1009
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 2: to come back either way. Even with that, like you know,

1010
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,959
Speaker 2: basically giving the green light on that thing. The other

1011
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: thing with that is Darius Taylor. You know where he's from, Detroit, Michigan.

1012
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 2: He badly wants to play in this game, and when

1013
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 2: he does, he is going to be by far the

1014
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 2: Gopher's most important offensive player. Again, I think he's going

1015
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 2: to play. The public doesn't. On the other side, with

1016
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,080
Speaker 2: Bowling Green, did they lose a ton They lost a

1017
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: running back, a dual threat guy that can receive as well,

1018
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 2: Tron Keith. There's some value there in the secondary. They

1019
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 2: lost his starting quarterback. One of their better runs, Jalen

1020
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: Husky and then one of his top backups, DeShawn Jones.

1021
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 2: So those are the ones there. They also had a

1022
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: starting safety whom is the regular season finale. He was

1023
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 2: injured in Week ten, so I guess we haven't seen

1024
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 2: him since then, kid who had played over eleven hundred

1025
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:56,360
Speaker 2: snaps there. I don't know. I didn't love this Bowling

1026
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: Green team when I watched them this season. And the

1027
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 2: idea that the golfer are not going to care about

1028
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: this game, I don't actually think that's reality. PJ. Fleck

1029
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 2: won't be able to live with himself if he loses

1030
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 2: this game, and the players who are compromised on the

1031
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 2: team they want to play, the guys who absolutely should

1032
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 2: opt out of the game. New beIN should not play

1033
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 2: in this game at all. At least to this point,

1034
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:19,920
Speaker 2: he is indicated that he is going to well out

1035
00:52:19,960 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 2: to see in the days leading up to it. I

1036
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,800
Speaker 2: think this line is too low. I think the Gophers

1037
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 2: win this one by a touchdown or more.

1038
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 1: Mike, do you share that same sentiment. I mean, these

1039
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 1: teams have played three times since two thousand and seven,

1040
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: and Bowling Green has won twice, so four times total.

1041
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: They played once in nineteen eighty six, so they're two

1042
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 1: and two, and when Minnesota wins, it is going away

1043
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,880
Speaker 1: in this series. But those games are all even. The

1044
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 1: last game was over two years ago. So your thoughts

1045
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 1: on the quick lane bowlt.

1046
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not taking a side. I'm taking the under

1047
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 3: thirty nine and a half. You know again, I've just

1048
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 3: made so much money this season on betting unders in

1049
00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 3: Minnesota games, in Iowa games, in Big Ten West games.

1050
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 3: I don't think bowling green is enough offensive firepower against

1051
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 3: the pretty solid Minnesota defense, or at least the defense

1052
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 3: that is not going to be in a short field

1053
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 3: that often because Minnesota loves to punt. I just think

1054
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 3: this is going to be an underplay. There's no quarterback

1055
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 3: play at Minnesota. They had to actually, I think, bribe

1056
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 3: the second stringer because they had nobody else after that.

1057
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Caliakman has gone third stringer out.

1058
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 3: They had nobody, and I heard they had to you know,

1059
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,959
Speaker 3: literally nil this kid to stay just for this stupid game.

1060
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,640
Speaker 3: But that's how important it is to Pga Flack to

1061
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 3: make sure he has a quarterback.

1062
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,000
Speaker 4: But he's going to run the ball like crazy. It's

1063
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 4: going to be a slow pace.

1064
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 3: On their side, they're going to play ball control. This

1065
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 3: is an underplay for me. I'm surprised as a thirty

1066
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 3: nine he's going to half. I thought it'd be closer

1067
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 3: to thirty six to thirty five.

1068
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:51,439
Speaker 4: So take the under.

1069
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 2: I hate to do another quasi agreement with Phar. I

1070
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 2: would also lean towards the under on there. I like

1071
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 2: that angle when the golfers get the lead by the

1072
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 2: way to flight the ball. I mean, that's the way

1073
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 2: they play. So if your handicap prefers the Gophers, almost

1074
00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:07,960
Speaker 2: by definition, you prefer the under. They are not going

1075
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 2: to be taking chances through the air with Kramer the

1076
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 2: path for them, it's running this ball and then playing

1077
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: the solid defense. Bowling Green doesn't have a lot of

1078
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 2: firepower on offense, especially with Keith out. For me, it's

1079
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:19,959
Speaker 2: Gophers in the under.

1080
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: Let's go to the First Responders Bowl. Amongst all of

1081
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: this holiday cheer, and you guys agree with each other,

1082
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 1: maybe we'll find one that you guys don't like. Kansas

1083
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,759
Speaker 1: excuse me, Texas State is playing Rice in Dallas in

1084
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: the First Responder Bowl. It's Texas State by five and

1085
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,400
Speaker 1: a half fifty nine and a half is a total

1086
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 1: in this one. Cash and tickets are on Texas State

1087
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: and the over very firmly. So far in what we

1088
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: have or where are you at in this game?

1089
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 2: Well, I want to say, first off, to our first

1090
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:54,879
Speaker 2: time listeners out there have never listened to this show.

1091
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 2: Pararell and I generally disagree on a must every single game,

1092
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,440
Speaker 2: and we do not share picks before hand. So I

1093
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 2: don't know if this is the holiday cheer or if

1094
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 2: it's just you know, more exposure to the teams and

1095
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 2: we're getting on the same side. Not a normal thing.

1096
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 3: Say, I didn't say Minnisota was going to come, not

1097
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 3: on that one. No, I said the young Yeah, yeah,

1098
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 3: you agreed on the under you had the side, so

1099
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: that's technically non an agreement, that's true.

1100
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 4: I just think the Bowl.

1101
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 3: Games themselves are fairly you know again, that doesn't mean

1102
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 3: we're going to pick them all right, but they're fairly.

1103
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 4: Predictable this year.

1104
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,919
Speaker 3: I mean, it seems to be some of these lines

1105
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 3: are just too high. Yeah, I want to pick other teams.

1106
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 3: I want to pick San Jose State, but don't give

1107
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 3: me that line. I want to pick South Alabama, but

1108
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 3: make that line eleven and a half. Don't give it seventeen,

1109
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 3: So I don't know why these lines are so inflated.

1110
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 4: That's leading to a lot of these agreement for sure.

1111
00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 2: I yeah, I definitely agree with that. This game the

1112
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 2: first respondibile text State and Rice way less to say

1113
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 2: about the opt out's Fortunately, you know, you definitely enjoy that.

1114
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: Texas State basically nothing to say. They had two back

1115
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 2: up a run backs that exit. It don't matter at

1116
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 2: all because Madi, this kid that they brought up from

1117
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:11,360
Speaker 2: the FCS, Ishmael Mahdi was a revelation this year, absolute revelation,

1118
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 2: both on special teams but also as a running back,

1119
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 2: like they sort of eased him in at the beginning

1120
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 2: of the season. This kid's got a special place in

1121
00:56:18,760 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 2: my hearts. I picked him up off the free agent

1122
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 2: layer in that fifty team league, but then like a moron,

1123
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,759
Speaker 2: I traded him away a week later because he had

1124
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 2: one good game and I was like, oh, Casherman, Now,

1125
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: bad decision by Thor on that one. Ishmael Maddy's a stud.

1126
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,520
Speaker 2: Texas State also got really good news with TJ. Finley,

1127
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 2: the starting quarterback. He is going to play in this game,

1128
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 2: announce that publicly he said, I'll make a decision about

1129
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 2: my future after it. We don't really care about that.

1130
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: As far as this discussion itself, they do.

1131
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 4: What future is going to go? Pros.

1132
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,880
Speaker 2: You go back to Texas State. He put some numbers there.

1133
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 4: I mean, he's not an NFL player.

1134
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely agree with that. Texas State does have a

1135
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: couple injuries to monitor. Joey Holbert was their wide receiver

1136
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 2: one uh and by far the wide receiver on the

1137
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 2: the end of the season, last couple of games, Uh,

1138
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 2: he was inactive, but it's you know, he's been labeled

1139
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 2: day to day now for a while.

1140
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 4: Uh.

1141
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: You know, whether you view that is ominous or other,

1142
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 2: you view that as optimistic for this check in on

1143
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 2: that they're starting left guard was also injured at the

1144
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 2: end of the season, and then a rotational edge. But overall,

1145
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: especially you know, in lieu of the context of the

1146
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 2: other teams I've been talking about, Texas State, you know,

1147
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 2: pretty close to full string, and it's it's not too

1148
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 2: dissimilar on the right side either outside of one player. JT.

1149
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 2: Daniels that the quarterback there Ferrell knows him well. Our

1150
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 2: recruiting guru over there, JT. Daniels came out as like, uh,

1151
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, like, you know, the the future

1152
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 2: of the franchise.

1153
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 3: He was number three to Trevor Lawrence for Disman Fields.

1154
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 3: That's how long ago you gotta.

1155
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:57,919
Speaker 2: Go, you gotta get you gotta get in the hot

1156
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: tub time machine to remember when he came out like yeah,

1157
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 2: I mean way way back. And then he matriculated to

1158
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 2: Georgia right before the dynasty at Georgia started, and we

1159
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 2: thought he was going to take over there, you know,

1160
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 2: like it's like sliding glass doors if one thing had

1161
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 2: gotten different. But of course Stets and Bennett ended up

1162
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 2: taking his job and then led JT. Daniels here. Unfortunately, JT.

1163
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 2: Daniels suffered a whole lot of concussions in his career.

1164
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 2: He had to medically retire. He's going to go into

1165
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 2: coaching and people have talked to who know the kid,

1166
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 2: think he's going to be a very good one. So

1167
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 2: best of luck to J. T. Daniels in his next career,

1168
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 2: which is going to start right away. But in this game,

1169
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 2: AJ Padget is going to play their quarterback too. AJ

1170
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 2: Padget does have a twelve to four career td I

1171
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,439
Speaker 2: and T rate, so you see that and you're like, oh,

1172
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 2: you know, and he has experienced in YadA YadA. If

1173
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: you look at the advanced numbers, not flattered nearly as much.

1174
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 2: He had more three more turnover worthy plays and big

1175
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 2: time throws over his career so far. So regression is

1176
00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 2: coming for aj Padget, and unfortunately, I think it's going

1177
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,720
Speaker 2: to come here because aj Padget in some of these

1178
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 2: games hasn't been forced to return fire and then have

1179
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: to come back in a game. I think that's what's

1180
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 2: going to happen here. We see multiple times this year

1181
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,040
Speaker 2: Texas State just start piling up points and then the

1182
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: opponent has to come back, some of them with maybe

1183
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 2: a little bit more success than others. Rice doesn't have

1184
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: the offensive fire power here. At least they do have

1185
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 2: McCaffrey Luke McCaffrey, the brother of course of Christian and

1186
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 2: son Ed, etc. Etc. Very good receiver who's going to

1187
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 2: play in the NFL. Hat tip to that kid for

1188
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 2: changing positions early in his career when he tried to

1189
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 2: play quarterback wasn't work and switch to wide receiver. He's

1190
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 2: going to play in the NFL with his brother because

1191
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 2: of that decision. So they do have the stud wide

1192
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 2: receiver there. I just don't trust Paget, I don't trust

1193
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: the run game, and I think Texas State is just

1194
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 2: going to start piling up points here. I don't think

1195
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 2: this line goes far enough, you know, in terms of

1196
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 2: reflecting the loss of JT. Daniels. Part of that was

1197
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 2: Texas State struggle a little bit near the end of

1198
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 2: the year. I think they get back on track here

1199
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 2: and hammer Rice And what is the last game of

1200
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 2: the first season of Kinney the Texas State head coach,

1201
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,800
Speaker 2: who himself was a revelation this year. So I think

1202
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 2: this one's Bobcats all the way.

1203
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: Mike, what do you think about this game? Because you

1204
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: know you did scoff at J. C. Daniels a little bit,

1205
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: but he is hard to replace. Here. Are you on

1206
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 1: the Texas State side or are you taking the points

1207
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 1: and going with Rice?

1208
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,560
Speaker 4: I'm going under fifty nine a halfs too high. I

1209
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:24,919
Speaker 4: know the public's on the over here.

1210
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 3: And as Thorer mentioned, Texas State files up points and

1211
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 3: usually the other team has to throw and respond. And

1212
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 3: you know, if JT. Daniels was playing nothing against JD. Daniels,

1213
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he was a prodigy out of

1214
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 3: high school him. And this is the other thing too,

1215
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 3: this is how long you guy's been around him and

1216
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 3: Amen around Saint Brown were one of the best combinations

1217
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 3: in high school that year, and he was number three.

1218
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 4: As I mentioned to Trevor Lawrence and.

1219
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 3: Justin Fields, and it seems like all those those guys

1220
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 3: have been on our fantasy teams for fifteen years now.

1221
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:57,000
Speaker 4: USC didn't work out, Georgia didn't.

1222
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,080
Speaker 3: Work out, West Virginia was Matt He had a you know,

1223
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 3: pretty solid season for Rice. If he were playing, I

1224
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 3: think they could stay in it and accumulate some points

1225
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 3: pad it. No, so I think Texas State is going

1226
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:14,040
Speaker 3: to pile up points. You expect the opponent to respond,

1227
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 3: get that number up, up up. I don't think Rice

1228
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 3: is going to be able to respond that way. I'm

1229
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 3: leaning towards Texas State, but I like the underplay here.

1230
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 3: I just don't think it's going to be as much

1231
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 3: of a shootout. Texas State is going to win this one,

1232
01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 3: but Rice isn't going to be able to put up

1233
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 3: the points to get you over fifty nine and a half.

1234
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,920
Speaker 1: All Right, the last bowl game that we'll talk about.

1235
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: I miss this game from being in Phoenix. It's the

1236
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: Guaranteed Rate Bowl from Chase Field. It used to be

1237
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: called it was the Cheese At Bowl, and then it

1238
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: was the Cactus Bowl, and now it's the Guaranteed Rate Bowl.

1239
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: Always a fun one. This year it is Kansas a

1240
01:01:48,640 --> 01:01:52,640
Speaker 1: twelve and a half point favorite against YOUNLB sixty four

1241
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:56,240
Speaker 1: and a half is the total here? Tickets and cash

1242
01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: favoring Kansas, but not sure on the total. We got

1243
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: tickets on the under, cash on the over, both just

1244
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 1: slightly so that one's dancing a little bit the total.

1245
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: But thor ku are they going to just roll in

1246
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,880
Speaker 1: this game and stop you on all the end of

1247
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: the ground. That's what the line says.

1248
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, Bog mean, you want to give

1249
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 2: my pick for me? Of course I'm taking round the over,

1250
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 2: of course, and the over is the over is the

1251
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 2: one that I really like in this game. My total

1252
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 2: in this game, my system total is seventy, So I

1253
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 2: mean we're above where we're at. Unov has the great

1254
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 2: run offense, Mary and the offensive coordinator there, Brendon Marion.

1255
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:39,800
Speaker 2: He's had successful offenses whenever he's been able to call plays.

1256
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 2: I mean, you had to go back to the FCS.

1257
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 2: I don't know why Marian didn't get an opportunity before now,

1258
01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 2: but credit to Barry Odom who I mean had to

1259
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 2: defer to him. It was almost like a moment of

1260
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 2: kiss met when Barry initially when he got the UNLV drop,

1261
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 2: got a second chance himself. He had hired Bobby Petrino,

1262
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 2: and then Bobby Petrino, you know, of course takes Joombo

1263
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 2: Fisher's offer to go to Texas A and M like

1264
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 2: three four days later. That led Barry Otam to Brendan

1265
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:11,080
Speaker 2: Marian and UNLV has had a destructive rushing offense ever

1266
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 2: since then. They run on everybody. They're going to be

1267
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 2: able to get their yards on the ground. The issue

1268
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 2: is UNLV's defense has no chance to stop in Kansas's offense.

1269
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 2: I know that kwal Neck, the coordinator for Kansas is

1270
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 2: out of there Lance Leopold. He has a lot of

1271
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 2: influence on the offense. His offensive coordinator higher for next year,

1272
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 2: Jeff Grimes, was kind of interesting in terms of that.

1273
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a They promoted the quarterback coach

1274
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: who's been around there to the cole offensive coordinator. I'm

1275
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,720
Speaker 2: sure there's going to be some Yeah, I mean like that.

1276
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: The overall game plan for Kansas ever since Leopold's been there,

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Speaker 2: it's been a breath of fresh air because the incompetent

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Speaker 2: culture that came before him. For Kansas fans, there's always

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Speaker 2: continuity with it. They go at your weaknesses, they find

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01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 2: it in the week in advance or in this case

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01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 2: in the three four weeks in advance, and they attack

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Speaker 2: it mercilessly. And they all also get you all confused

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01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 2: on defense, both pre snap motion finding where the number

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01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 2: of advantages before the snap, and then attacking it. They

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Speaker 2: get you all confused and discombobulated, the false steps of

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01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:15,320
Speaker 2: the defenders and whatnot, and they create explosive plays for themselves.

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Speaker 2: And the efficiency is always there for the Kansas. It's

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Speaker 2: really big that Devin Neal has an opted out of

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Speaker 2: this game, their star running back. They haven't really had

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Speaker 2: any opt outs. The only one that I have logged

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Speaker 2: is Tanaka Scott, a backup wide receiver. Ken's going to

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01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:32,840
Speaker 2: be a false strength outside of the last of the

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01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator, and again I don't think that's a big deal.

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Speaker 2: Also mentioned Lance Leopold, the head coach five on one

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01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 2: against the spread in his six career Bowl games. So

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Speaker 2: you have all that stuff and the additional continuity outside

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Speaker 2: the offensive coordinator UNLV side one of the rotational running backs,

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Speaker 2: Courtney Reeves, he's in the portal, and then they had

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Speaker 2: a starting safety in there as well. This safety room

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Speaker 2: for UNLV is basically the only one you have to

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01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 2: be concerned about over there. There was reports initially right

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Speaker 2: when we got into ball season that Mayeva, the starting

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01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 2: quarterback for NLV, that he had entered the portal on

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01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 2: he was going to leave. It turned out that wasn't true.

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01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 2: UNLV the program shot that down really quickly, as did Mayeva,

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01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,440
Speaker 2: so he going to be playing here and again more

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01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 2: or less outside of the safety room UNLV's intact. But

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01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 2: they also have injuries and so this Cameron Jenkins kid,

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01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:26,760
Speaker 2: he's in the portal, you're not going to play. The

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Speaker 2: other starting safety has been injured, and Jenkins was injured

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Speaker 2: as well. The issue with that in this particular handicap

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Speaker 2: is safeties are way more important when you're playing a

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Speaker 2: team like Kansas than maybe in some other games. And

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Speaker 2: the reason for that is the indecision that they put

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01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:47,680
Speaker 2: in your head. Kansas, with the machinations of againing the

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01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 2: pre snap motion and we're going to force you to

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01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 2: tip tip your hand of are you and man? Are

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01:05:53,000 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 2: you in zone? And where are the numbers? And then

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01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 2: they just they're they're going to the other side of

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01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 2: the field knowing what coverage your running you know, typically

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Speaker 2: and the safeties are the ones a lot of times

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Speaker 2: that are put into these predicaments and if they don't

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01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,920
Speaker 2: make the right decision right away first three steps, two steps,

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01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 2: you got a problem because now you've got a guy

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01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 2: galloping down field whatever. And the Kansas receivers have very

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Speaker 2: good hands. All of them are way higher great at

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01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 2: PFF and they have been the last couple of years

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01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:23,640
Speaker 2: catch rate, all the advanced stats that maybe the a

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01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,960
Speaker 2: fan who hasn't seen Kansas would think. Kin's also at

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Speaker 2: Jason Bean, the guy who started the last you know,

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01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 2: half plus of the season and a guy who going

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01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,520
Speaker 2: back years and years as a starter at North Texas,

1333
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 2: plenty of experience in the system. He's playing in this game.

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01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 2: This is his last collegiate game. He's gonna want to

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01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 2: win it. Daniels that starting quarterback for Kansas been out

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01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 2: for a while. There was a thought he could come back.

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01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,720
Speaker 2: He had a nerve issue in his back. He's gonna

1338
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 2: shut it down because he's coming back next year for Kansas.

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01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,160
Speaker 2: But Kansas has a lot of firepower on offense. They're

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01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 2: gonna be able to put an inexperienced UNLV safety room

1341
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 2: into conflict. UNLV didn't have a good defense as is.

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01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 2: I do think UNLV returned some fire. Long story short,

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01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 2: we're getting a crazy shootout here, but I think Kansas

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01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 2: ends up winning that shootout by fourteen points or so.

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01:07:09,360 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 1: Mike, I know you're very surprised that Thor had a

1346
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: lot to say about his Jayhawks there. But your thoughts

1347
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: on this game? Are you laying the points? It's a

1348
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: lot of points. Do you'll like a total?

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01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,320
Speaker 4: I'll be quicker. I like the over. I don't like

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01:07:23,400 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 4: the I think the lines too much.

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01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 3: It's too big for me. I know Thor is confident

1352
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:29,840
Speaker 3: they go in with two touchdowns that they go win

1353
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:32,080
Speaker 3: by ten. It's just not on a good.

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01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:34,880
Speaker 4: Line for me. Two National Coach of the Year candidates.

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01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:37,280
Speaker 3: I mean, I think is gonna put up a lot

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01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 3: of points, but I just I worry that this could

1357
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 3: be a ten point game instead of a thirteen point game.

1358
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 4: So I'm not going to touch that part.

1359
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 3: It's going to be an over. It's gonna be a shootout.

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01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 3: Neither team's gonna be able to stop the other one.

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01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 4: Very well.

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01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,600
Speaker 1: All right, well, look, that will wrap it up for

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Speaker 1: us on this show. But remember live show on Friday

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Speaker 1: and new in Eastern we will be covering the bulls

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01:07:56,920 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 1: happening from the twenty seventh to the twenty ninth, so

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Speaker 1: please check that out right here on the Betting Pros

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Speaker 1: wrap it up for today. Good luck on your bets

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