WEBVTT - Politicizing Tragedy - August 28th, Hour 1 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.920 That we have come out to your. 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:05.640 Way. 0:00:05.680 --> 0:00:08.680 I get false saying you a concocise. 0:00:09.320 --> 0:00:10.600 Will be desire. 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:12.640 Let tell. 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:16.840 And if you want a little banging again here and 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.560 come along. Think of how easy it would be to 0:00:19.640 --> 0:00:22.680 be a damn Republican. Oh what should I wear today? 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:24.279 This stupid freaking red hat? 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:25.760 What should I say today? 0:00:25.800 --> 0:00:27.440 I don't know. Just make sure it's cruel. 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:33.159 Democratic ages have sued this dude forty four times, and 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:35.840 we'll assume him forty four more and forty four more 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:36.280 after that. 0:00:36.680 --> 0:00:40.519 We could lose everything. We could lose our democracy, our 0:00:40.600 --> 0:00:43.400 constitutional republic, all because. 0:00:43.040 --> 0:00:43.680 Of one man. 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:46.519 Radom is back in style. 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:52.760 Welcome to that way. Have coming to your. 0:00:54.960 --> 0:00:57.000 On the way, I get false and saying. 0:00:56.800 --> 0:00:58.040 You a conscious cial. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:04.480 Your Sean Hannity Show more, I'm the scenes information on 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:12.200 freaking news and more bold inspired solutions for America. Hey 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.240 if Peter Schweitzer four times number one New York Times 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.680 the best selling author I'm filling in for Sean today, 0:01:17.840 --> 0:01:20.120 and my co pilot is Eric Eggers. 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:22.240 Eric, how are you while I work with a four 0:01:22.319 --> 0:01:24.440 times best selling New York Times author? So I'm great. 0:01:24.800 --> 0:01:27.640 I'm really excited to be here. It's actually our eighth time, 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:30.760 I think, filling in for Sewn, otherwise known as the 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:32.280 O Show. And I guess they figured if you can 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:34.440 dodge a Rents, you can host the national radio show. 0:01:34.480 --> 0:01:36.080 So here we are and excited to be doing this. 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.560 It's a weird day. It's a lot of hard stories 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:42.720 in the news and a lot of hypocrisy in terms 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:44.560 of the way people are talking about that, and so 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:46.520 that's one I think. I think we're excited to get 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.000 into you and talk about like, let's just be honest 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.000 and tell the country the truth about some of the 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:51.920 tough things we're dealing with. 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.440 Yeah, no, you're exactly right. We're We're going to talk 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:58.080 on several important topics today. We're gonna talk about the tragedy, 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.160 of course in Minneapolis and dig deep as to what's 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:03.400 actually going on there, what does it mean, how is 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:06.360 it being politicized. We're going to talk about justice, will 0:02:06.400 --> 0:02:09.480 the powerful be held into account? And we're going to 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:13.000 talk about law and order. The National Guard deployed to Washington, 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:15.320 d C. And we've got a great lineup of guests 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.400 that are coming along. We have harm Meat Dylon coming 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:20.960 at the bottom of the hour. She's the Assistant Attorney 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.960 General for Civil Rights and the Department of Justice. Harmy 0:02:24.000 --> 0:02:26.000 will join us. What I love about Harmat is she's 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:29.040 a fighter and she's smart. Sometimes you don't get both 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.240 of those qualities, but you have both of those with Harmony. 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.040 In the second hour, we've got Jay Collins, the Lieutenant 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:36.480 Governor of Florida, coming and he's going to talk about 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:39.440 illegal immigration. Yeah, flos being done on that. 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.079 Florida continues to lead on that front. He recently went 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:45.040 to California to bring back the illegal alien who was 0:02:45.120 --> 0:02:47.560 driving a car that tragically results in the loss of 0:02:47.600 --> 0:02:50.840 life of three Floridians. No, you're absolutely right. Our lineup 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:54.480 today is stacked with alpha's. We have a lawyer and 0:02:54.560 --> 0:02:56.919 Harmey Dillon for their problement of justice. Jay Collins, a 0:02:57.000 --> 0:03:01.120 former Green Beret, current lieutenant governor. We have a person 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.240 who owns a private firearms company in the five o'clock hour, 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:05.120 Josh Girard. 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:08.639 He actually is the former law enforcement officer who is 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:12.600 with Berna, which provides non lethal solutions. But he's going 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:15.840 to talk about his experiences in dealing with school shootings 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.880 and talk about really what's at work there. And then 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:22.120 at the bottom of the third hour. We have a legend. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.919 We have Mike Singletary, the legendary linebacker from the NFL, 0:03:26.000 --> 0:03:29.280 from the Chicago Bears, dub Bears, and he's going to 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:33.320 come and give us a more optimistic note because he 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:36.160 has an amazing story. But he's all about hard work, 0:03:36.640 --> 0:03:39.840 about core values. We're going into the Labor Day weekend, 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:42.640 there's so much terrible news. Mike's going to give us 0:03:42.680 --> 0:03:44.960 some optimism and some hope for the future based on 0:03:45.200 --> 0:03:46.880 character and fundamental values. 0:03:46.960 --> 0:03:51.880 So we have a lawyer, a Green beret, a guy 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.160 that owns a gun company, and a Hall of fam linebacker. 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.000 That's what I'm saying. But we are tough today. 0:03:56.640 --> 0:03:58.480 We are and we want you to join the conversation. 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:00.640 Right one eight hundred ninety four one one seven, three 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:03.440 two six and nine four one seven, three two six, 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.840 join the conversation. Uh, don't worry. Things are gonna go 0:04:06.920 --> 0:04:09.800 fine because Linda is here. Linda is making sure that 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:13.720 everything's gonna run smoothly. Let's talk about Minneapolis. I have 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:18.240 children that are now all adults. You have younger children, horrifying. 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.680 I have a fifth grader who's literally hopefully getting off 0:04:20.720 --> 0:04:23.600 the bus right now as we speak, and I empathize 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.840 and sympathize. It is every parent's worst nightmare to uh 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:30.160 to wonder why your child hasn't gotten off the bus yet, 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:31.480 or why they haven't come home, or to get that 0:04:31.520 --> 0:04:34.440 phone call from school. Actually got one from my daughter's 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:35.960 school today. It turns out I was just about a 0:04:36.000 --> 0:04:39.040 bloody nose and not about anything much much worse. But 0:04:39.120 --> 0:04:42.200 that is not the phone call that other parents got yesterday, sadly, 0:04:42.320 --> 0:04:46.400 tragically in Minnesota. And it is a tragedy. But what's 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:51.000 also sad and tragic and predictable, unfortunately, is the way 0:04:51.360 --> 0:04:56.920 that people's personal tragedy becomes instantly politicized by the chattering 0:04:56.960 --> 0:04:59.400 class in the media. Listen to this montage. You're gonna 0:04:59.400 --> 0:05:02.840 hear three voices, and so you have a shooting. You 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.520 have a shooting by a shooter we now know who 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:09.960 belongs to a certain classification they identified as trans. But 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:14.520 that's not overly interesting. I'm not really that interesting to us. 0:05:14.560 --> 0:05:16.720 I don't think it's interesting in the larger scope. But 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:19.000 it's interesting in the larger conversation we're having as a 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:23.760 country about how to make dangerous places safe. Right Listen 0:05:23.839 --> 0:05:26.480 to your hear three voices. You canna hear MSNBC's Jensaki. 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.760 You're gonna hear Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry, and then you're 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:32.120 gonna hear MSNBC host Joe Scarborough. Listen to what they 0:05:32.160 --> 0:05:33.799 have to say. Listen what they had to say yesterday. 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:34.880 Here's what matters. 0:05:35.360 --> 0:05:38.400 Today's shooter bought the rifle, handgun and shotgun. They used 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:40.800 to do what they did today. Legally, we live in 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:42.880 a country with more guns than people, where there are 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:45.840 not universal background checks, they're not bands on assault weapons, 0:05:46.080 --> 0:05:47.800 and it is far too easy to buy a gun. 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.400 It's the guns everyone. It's not really a secret. 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:56.200 I'll speak generally, though. We have more guns in America 0:05:56.520 --> 0:06:00.880 than people. I don't see a reason and why people 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:03.920 should be able to buy gun one month, and then 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.279 buy a gun the next month, and then the next 0:06:06.400 --> 0:06:09.440 month after that. People who say that this is not 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:12.640 about guns, you got to be kidding me. This is 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.600 about guns. We do need to take action. 0:06:16.320 --> 0:06:20.920 How many school shootings, how many shootings and churches? How 0:06:20.960 --> 0:06:26.080 many shootings at concerts, how many shootings at country music concerts, 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:30.320 how many shootings in street fairs? How many shootings and restaurants. 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:33.400 How many shootings everywhere are we going to have before 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:38.320 we can talk about common sense gun safety laws. 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:43.480 Yeah, let's talk about common sense gun safety laws, particularly 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:47.360 protecting schools. Because you pointed this out to me. Private 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:53.680 schools in Minneapolis actually asked after the shooting was in Nashville. 0:06:53.720 --> 0:06:57.760 I believe that they wanted special protection. They wanted additional 0:06:57.920 --> 0:07:00.600 security at private schools, which certainly would applied to this 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:03.599 Catholic school. What did Governor Waltz say? 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:09.040 So, a cadre of Minneapolis bishops started lobbying for and 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:12.760 petitioning for funding to be able to have enhance security 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:16.920 measures in non public schools aka religious schools. This came 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:19.440 after there were shootings in twenty twenty two in Texas 0:07:19.480 --> 0:07:22.760 and in twenty twenty three in Nashville. They wrote letters, 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:26.880 they begged Governor Tim Waltz, who ironically was selected by 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.560 Democrats to be vice president because he allegedly could appeal 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.520 to gun owners. But they're saying, hey, listen, we have 0:07:32.880 --> 0:07:35.480 we think we're seeing a trend here. We're seeing these 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:38.400 religious institutions be targeted by people who might not be 0:07:38.520 --> 0:07:41.679 super friendly to these values. We'd liked some additional funding. 0:07:41.720 --> 0:07:44.520 We like protection. The state at the time had a 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:47.960 seventeen billion dollar surplus. They said, we like some money 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:51.400 to help protect these schools. Tim Waltz did not call 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.560 a special session to pass the legislation. 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:56.880 Yeah, you know, here's the funny thing about this funny 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:59.800 in a six sort of way, is look at what 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.280 the actual shooter in Minneapolis said. Why did the shooter 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.160 pick this particular target. He picked this target for the 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.080 same reason that the vast majority of other shooters picked 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.240 their targets, because it was a gun free zone. This 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:14.400 is actually from the shooter's manifesto, and I quote. I 0:08:14.480 --> 0:08:17.600 recently heard a rumor that James Holmes, the Aurora Theater shooter, 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:22.239 remember the Aurora shooting incident in Colorado, may have chosen 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.280 venues that were gun free zones. I would probably aim 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.920 the same way to shoot on the run and maybe 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:31.320 change some minds. I understand why high security places like 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:34.680 prisons in airports are different, but for most public places, 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.679 the people are going to be unarmed. That's why I 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:42.480 and many others like schools so much. At least for me, 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:47.200 I am focused on them. Adam Lonza, one of the shooters, 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:50.959 is my reason. So This is why he picked it. 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.280 The gun control problem is not the existence of guns. 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.120 I mean, they said there are more guns in America 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.120 than there are people. I can tell you in my 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:00.920 neighborhood where I live, they're more guns and there are people. 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.480 And I contribute to that, but it's a very safe 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:07.360 neighborhood because guns don't pull their own triggers, right. The 0:09:07.520 --> 0:09:10.480 problem is it's the culprit and they never want to 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:12.680 talk about the culprits. They never want to talk about 0:09:12.679 --> 0:09:15.440 those factors, and they never want to highlight the fact 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.559 that the way you protect innocent people is with a 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:20.959 good guy with a gun stopping a bad guy with 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:21.360 a gun. 0:09:21.559 --> 0:09:24.280 Well, and listen to you know, Jensaki last night. I 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.880 watched Jensaki last night in America, so you didn't have to, 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.960 and so I came prepared to discuss this. She got 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:33.200 done after she did her whole you know monologue about 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:35.120 it's the guns, it's the guns, and then they talked 0:09:35.120 --> 0:09:36.880 to it. She told a story about how after the 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:41.280 school shooting in Texas, everybody got together and they worked 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:44.200 to get some legislation passed. What do they pass meaningful 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:47.480 gun control legislation? So to me, the takeaway would be 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.719 that you can pass all the different laws you'd like to, 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.439 you're still not going to be able to stop bad 0:09:53.600 --> 0:09:56.679 people with bad motives from doing bad things. And that 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:59.679 is a sad and tragic reality of American life. You 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:03.679 know who understands it's a sad, tragic reality of American life. Democrats, 0:10:04.160 --> 0:10:06.640 And they actually understand it because they were They couldn't 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.600 stop saying it this week. But not about this issue, 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.040 but about a different issue, which to me is the 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:14.560 larger context of the conversation we should be having. Listen 0:10:14.640 --> 0:10:19.040 to Jamie raskin Okay on CNN this week. Listen to 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:21.040 what he had to say about just the idea of 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:22.480 crime and bad things happening. 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:27.920 He's trying to militarize our society intimidate his political opponents. 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:31.960 The whole idea of picking cities based on their partisan 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:35.480 leadership is absurd. I mean, there are lots of Republican 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:39.280 cities in town struggling with crime. Everybody is across the 0:10:39.320 --> 0:10:44.160 country always, crime has always been part of our history, 0:10:44.880 --> 0:10:48.000 and yet crime is down in DC, for example, it's 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:51.600 at a thirty year low. It's down in Baltimore, it's 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:52.440 down in Chicago. 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:57.400 Yeah, here's the problem with that. We don't know what 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.800 the statistics are. Right. There's an investing right now in 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:02.959 the District of Columbia the fact that they were cooking 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:06.120 the books. In twenty twenty one, there was a guy 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.960 who worked in homicide in DC, worked in the homicide 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:12.720 unit for ten years, who said, literally, they were cooking 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.720 the books. In his lawsuit, he said people that died 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:20.600 with gunshot monds were classified as dying quote unquote accidentally. 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:23.640 They cook the books because they know how bad it 0:11:23.720 --> 0:11:25.680 looks for them, and they know how bad it looks 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:29.360 for their approach to law enforcement. So the notion that, oh, 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.679 crime is better, we don't know that it's better. What 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.680 we do know is to put it into context. Washington, 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.400 d C, where Trump is deployed the National Guard, where 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:42.520 they're all concerned about the militarization of DC, actually had 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:50.479 a murder rate higher than Bogota, Columbia, Mexico City, and Islamabad, Pakistan. 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.560 In other words, Washington, d C. Had a worse murder 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:56.360 rate than these third world countries, and the same would 0:11:56.360 --> 0:12:01.000 apply to Baltimore and several other American cities. So intolerable level, 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:03.960 but they want us to tolerate it because they are 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.280 so committed to gun control they don't want to try 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:07.000 anything else. 0:12:07.120 --> 0:12:09.760 That to me is the larger takeaway is we got 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:12.600 done being lectured by Democrats All week before the tragedy 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:15.400 in Minneapolis, the big story was, Hey, we put federal 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.880 troops in Washington, d C. To try to bring down 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:20.520 the crime. And by the way, it's working right by 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:23.960 all accounts and metrics, and not the fake, fake news 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.280 numbers that they've been trying to sell to the American people, 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:29.160 but by all real numbers, crime in Washington, DC is 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:31.679 down because of the presence of the federal troops. So 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:34.720 now he said, all right, well, hey listen Chicago, listen Baltimore. 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:36.640 We might become a fee We might be doing the 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.480 same thing. Of course, people in Chicago, people in Baltimore said, hey, 0:12:39.559 --> 0:12:41.559 are crime's down, You don't need to send anybody here. 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:43.640 And they said, well, we don't believe it, because what 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.920 you just said about the crime rates in Washington, d C. 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:50.160 Relative to those other cities around the world, like Bogaton, 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:53.199 is Lamabad, it's true for Chicago and Baltimore. True. So 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.360 but they were told, hey, look, crime is just a 0:12:55.440 --> 0:12:57.120 part of life. Guys, there's not much you can do. 0:12:57.320 --> 0:13:00.240 Accept it. Accept it. So why we're excited to talk 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.480 to har Meat Dillon with the Department of Justice at 0:13:02.480 --> 0:13:05.120 three thirty is she's been one of the smartest people 0:13:05.160 --> 0:13:08.760 out there about what mechanisms does the federal government have 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:14.160 to be able to, let's say, encourage municipalities and states 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:20.400 to receive federal assistance benevolently and happily, not like JB. 0:13:20.480 --> 0:13:22.560 Pritzker going out there and trying to, you know, look 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:26.800 tough for the cameras. I think it's working in DC, 0:13:27.080 --> 0:13:29.600 and it'll be interesting to see are these real threats 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:33.880 right that ken Donald Trump really get federal troops to 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:37.280 help stop crime in Chicago and Baltimore. And because what 0:13:37.320 --> 0:13:39.480 we'll talk about in this how the break is it's 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:42.199 not just crime. It's crime that's affecting a certain part 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.559 of the community, and it's part of a much larger 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:46.000 problem we have in this country. We have a crime 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:47.360 problem in some of these cities, and we have a 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:48.679 police problem in these cities. 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.120 We have a police problem. And look, they don't they 0:13:51.200 --> 0:13:53.319 say they don't want the National Guard deploy and I 0:13:53.360 --> 0:13:56.600 think we all agree constitutionally, we can't deploy them. But JB. 0:13:56.720 --> 0:13:58.960 Prisker had two hundred and fifty members of the Illinois 0:13:59.040 --> 0:14:02.880 National Guard when the Democratic Convention was in Chicago. In Wisconsin, 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:05.320 they did the same thing seventeen hundred National Guard troops. 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:07.480 So they don't mind deploying them. They want to be 0:14:07.520 --> 0:14:08.959 in charge and they only want to use them for 0:14:09.000 --> 0:14:09.680 their purposes. 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:11.679 No, that's absolutely right. Well, we'd love to hear from you. 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.440 He's Peter Schweizer. I'm Eric Eggers. We host the podcast 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.800 called The Drill Down. You can hear all of our 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:19.160 episodes at the drill doown dot com. And we're going 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:22.320 to be having I think, just a very informative and 0:14:22.360 --> 0:14:24.560 important conversation with all of you. Thanks for being a 0:14:24.560 --> 0:14:26.000 part of it. We'll be right back on the other 0:14:26.040 --> 0:14:28.560 side of this break. Hey, it's Eric Eggers and Peter 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:31.360 Schweitzer filling in for Sean Hannity. We do a podcast 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:33.480 called The Drill Down with Peter Schweitzer, which you can 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:37.120 find wherever you find podcasts. The cruel irony of what 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:40.640 happened this week is we had a tragedy in Minnesota. 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.000 Children lost their lives. A lot of other children are injured, 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.800 including some adults. And it's happened at a time when 0:14:46.920 --> 0:14:49.160 we're attempting to have a very serious and real conversation 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.040 about law and order and how seriously do we take crime? 0:14:52.560 --> 0:14:54.560 And the irony is is that we just got being 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.720 told by Democrats that not all crime really matters that much. 0:14:57.720 --> 0:14:59.600 You heard Jamie raskin last segment say that it's always 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:01.680 been part of our history. And listen to what someone 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:05.360 at the DNC summer meeting just last week that after 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:08.080 they got done with their land acknowledgment, they then told 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:09.560 us this about crime. 0:15:09.760 --> 0:15:13.680 Where does Trump go? Migrant crime, carjackings, the really lurid, 0:15:13.920 --> 0:15:17.520 awful stuff that is a crazy, crazy visual. Don't take 0:15:17.560 --> 0:15:20.960 the bait because most Americans are more worried about how 0:15:20.960 --> 0:15:24.000 are we going to address mental health issues, the visible 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:28.040 homelessness that we see on streets, and how do we 0:15:28.240 --> 0:15:31.200 deal with mental health and other issues that drive the 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:34.360 sort of random incidence that scare all of us. That's 0:15:34.400 --> 0:15:36.680 what you should be talking about. That's where you should 0:15:36.680 --> 0:15:39.120 be focused. Don't take the bait and talking about migrant 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:42.640 crime or carjackings or the things that actually don't matter 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:43.880 to that many Americans. 0:15:45.320 --> 0:15:48.400 What happened to you today, honey, Oh, I had a carjacking. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:51.160 It was a normal day. I mean, it's ridiculous, it's 0:15:51.200 --> 0:15:53.640 totally ridiculous, and it's completely out of touch with the 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.640 reality of the way most people are living their lives. 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:58.560 And the reason is that a lot of the elites 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.960 that were attending that meeting, they live in secure buildings, 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:08.000 apartment buildings that have armed security. They live in secure apartments, 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.960 they work in secure buildings. They don't have to deal 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:13.440 with the normal street stuff that most people do. 0:16:13.640 --> 0:16:15.320 And the reason why real people are having to deal 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.280 with more street stuff is because in cities like Chicago, 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:21.040 there is a police shortage of two thousand officers. Baltimore, 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:23.760 where they're threatening to send troops, has down five hundred. 0:16:23.920 --> 0:16:27.680 New York City is already down troops or down police 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.920 officers so much they've had to lower the education requirements 0:16:31.000 --> 0:16:33.640 from sixty hours of education to enter the academy down 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:37.920 to twenty four. So we have a police shortage because 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:40.080 of how we've talked about law enforcement the last five years. 0:16:40.280 --> 0:16:42.760 And that's the conversation Donald Trump's trying to change. We'll 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:44.880 talk about that plus other issues that matter to you 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.040 with har Meat Dylan from the Department of Justice. On 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.080 the other side of this break, he's Peter Schweiser. Americ 0:16:49.120 --> 0:16:54.000 Eggers back after this, Sean Hannity. Always concerned for our country, 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:59.000 always honoring our servicemen and service women, and standing up 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.040 for liberty every day. 0:17:03.400 --> 0:17:05.760 Hey, it's Peter Schweizer, and that is Eric Eggers, and 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.760 we're filling in for Sean. Join the Conversation one eight 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.560 hundred nine four one seven three two six one header 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.639 nine four one seven three two six. Also, please subscribe 0:17:14.680 --> 0:17:17.320 to our podcast, The drill Down. You can find out 0:17:17.359 --> 0:17:19.760 more about the research we do at the drilldown dot com. 0:17:20.200 --> 0:17:23.680 We also both work at the Government Accountability Institute. We 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.280 do a lot of investigative research. You might remember us 0:17:26.320 --> 0:17:29.399 from Clinton Cash Exposing the Bidens. We have a new 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:32.639 research report that is being featured on zero Hedge that 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.199 you might want to check out. It's about Trump has 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:39.080 called for rico charges against George Soros. We're not lawyers, 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:40.680 we don't take an opinion on that, but we do 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:44.360 look at the money network that George Soros has established, 0:17:44.359 --> 0:17:47.920 So check that out on zero Hedge. Joining us now 0:17:48.080 --> 0:17:51.520 is Harmei Dylon. She is the assistant attorney Jennifer Civil 0:17:51.600 --> 0:17:54.959 Rights at the US Department of Justice. She is going 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:58.639 to talk to us about the President's initiatives and efforts 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:01.280 to deal with crime and RBS in America. We love 0:18:01.359 --> 0:18:04.600 har Meat. She's tough and she's smart. Har Meat, thanks 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:05.520 so much for joining us. 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:09.040 Yes, thanks for having me so tell us. 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.920 We understand there are obvious constitutional issues. The president can't 0:18:13.000 --> 0:18:17.200 send the National Guard wherever he wants. But clearly it 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:20.360 seems to me that that urban America would benefit from 0:18:20.359 --> 0:18:23.200 what's going on in Washington, d C. Are there any 0:18:23.480 --> 0:18:27.120 incentives or levers that can be pulled by the administration 0:18:27.359 --> 0:18:29.960 to try to get some of these mayors to cooperate 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.800 and to deal with the massive crime problem that we're 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:34.280 facing in urban America today. 0:18:35.600 --> 0:18:38.600 Well, you know, just about every state and locality is 0:18:38.640 --> 0:18:41.680 on some form of federal welfare if you will, you know, 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:46.240 said regularly give out grants and actual equipment to local 0:18:46.320 --> 0:18:49.920 law enforcement. And sure, I think you know, there's a 0:18:50.000 --> 0:18:52.320 process that may have to be gone through, but ultimately 0:18:52.320 --> 0:18:55.000 the federal government doesn't have to fund all of those things. 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.400 So that would be something to do, is to tie 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:04.879 your stability for this type of funding to certain basic 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.200 metrics of doing your job. You know, that might be 0:19:08.359 --> 0:19:11.080 an idea, but ultimately that's sort of more policy than 0:19:11.600 --> 0:19:14.200 what we do here at the DOJ. I mean, as 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:20.480 a tax gayer of the Great District of Columbia, I'm 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:24.280 saying that a little starcastically because I actually favorite place. 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:28.120 But it is safer here, and I think the majority 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:31.840 of DC residents other than a few wealthy white liberals, 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:35.920 are quite thrilled would be increased safety. I mean, the 0:19:36.000 --> 0:19:40.560 mayors praising the federal government for hard work here and so. 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:44.200 But the president can do that directly in DC with 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:47.159 a stroke of a pen, and it is much more 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:51.640 complicated because you know, as conservatives, we believe in federalism, 0:19:51.920 --> 0:19:58.880 and certainly policing and police power are quintessential local tasks. 0:20:00.119 --> 0:20:02.920 So Harmond, I'm going to ask you to maybe play 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.200 psychologists here a little bit, just based on your experience 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:08.760 in California. I mean, you you lived in California for 0:20:08.800 --> 0:20:11.880 a long time, You lived in the Bay Area. Why 0:20:12.200 --> 0:20:16.480 is it that these urban political establishments don't seem to 0:20:16.600 --> 0:20:22.120 care about widespread crime, They demoralize the police, they reject 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:26.119 offers to help them. Help me understand why that seems 0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:27.639 to be their approach to this issue. 0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:32.520 Well, first of all, who lives in these big cities. 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:36.840 You know, it's usually sort of yepie types. You know, 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:39.960 they make the laws, they have liberal values that they 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:43.600 learned in college, and you know, those are the kind 0:20:43.600 --> 0:20:47.200