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Speaker 1: It's nine with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Today we

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Speaker 1: have the pleasure of talking to yet another one of

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Speaker 1: our amazing supporting cast members. Today we're talking to Brandon Douglas,

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Speaker 1: who played Mike Ryan, and we want to talk to

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Speaker 1: him about Yep, he showed up in five episodes. Let's

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Speaker 1: let's get to know him. Hello, Look, how que you are?

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Speaker 1: How are you? Sorry? You probably hate the word cute.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure your entire career people always said you're so cute? Sorry,

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Speaker 1: let me rephrase. Look how handsome you wantsome? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: How are you to hija? Hi? It's good you well,

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Speaker 1: thirty years, so so, so many years? What if the

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Speaker 1: cool thing you guys are doing? Thank you. We're having

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. We have a good time. It's

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Speaker 1: so fun because we get to reconnect with people like

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Speaker 1: you that we haven't seen in so long. But like,

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Speaker 1: where are you right now? What? What's happening in Brandon's life?

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Speaker 1: I am living in Middle Tennessee, Nashville, Tennessee. Nice. I

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Speaker 1: live in an area called Leeperspark. Have you seen Jason?

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Speaker 1: Jason Priestly? He lives in Nashville Now. Jason lives in Nashville. Yes,

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Speaker 1: he moved about a year ago. I heard Shannon is

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Speaker 1: moving here because really actually kind of in the same

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Speaker 1: area where where my family and I lived. No, I

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Speaker 1: didn't know Jason lived here. How long did Jason live here?

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Speaker 1: I think like a year? Two year? Two? Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of people in there. I love it. A

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Speaker 1: lot of people in Tennessee. Why do you live in Nashville. Um,

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Speaker 1: I grew up in Texas, and uh, I just wanted

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Speaker 1: just got too big. Yeah, And so it was time.

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Speaker 1: My youngest graduated from high school, got four kids. Four

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Speaker 1: kids well at Parsons the new School, studying design and amazing.

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Speaker 1: The other three or two are in college and ones

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Speaker 1: out in the professional world. And so I just thought

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Speaker 1: it was time. Wow, I missed the weather. My wife

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Speaker 1: really misses the weather. We're jealous you got out. We

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Speaker 1: get a little bit jealous of everyone that kids. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm almost out. I have still have a kid that's

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Speaker 1: in high school. Tour is stuck here for a good

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Speaker 1: number of years. She can't leave them. Somewhere else. It

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Speaker 1: could be a lot. Yeah, well, okay, we wanted to

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Speaker 1: talk to you about what Cassy. We're in five episodes

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Speaker 1: of the show, right, Yeah, and you came in. Were

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Speaker 1: you the first KEG president or were you the second

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Speaker 1: one or the third one? I'm so confused because there

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Speaker 1: seemed you were the first. I mean, it's been a

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Speaker 1: long time, but I think I first. Yeah. Yeah, Steve

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Speaker 1: was getting hazed. Yeah I got black balled. I remember that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you just like leave him high and dry because

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Speaker 1: you guys don't want to be involved with it. Nice, nice,

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Speaker 1: nice job. I was just I was just following the director. Wait,

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Speaker 1: I have information that I'm just simply reading from our

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Speaker 1: producer that you were not the first. Oh I wasn't.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you were the second because he was

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Speaker 1: departure of Foreign President Charlie Dixon. Mike Ryan, a senior

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Speaker 1: there was a third apparently who dat what's going on?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I know this is all new to me. Well,

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Speaker 1: I guess when they graduate, you had to have someone new,

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Speaker 1: But it probably happens all the time. Right, we didn't

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Speaker 1: senior at see you so yeah makes sense. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: a good president. Though. I want to go out and

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Speaker 1: say you were my favorite one, definitely. She hasn't remember

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Speaker 1: the others, but she's going to go on a limb

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Speaker 1: and say you were her favorite of the two i've

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Speaker 1: seen so far. You are definitely my favorite because you're

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Speaker 1: really You're kind and you have a kind spirit, and

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Speaker 1: you're very fair. And I don't know. You don't listen

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Speaker 1: to John Sears that much. No, I do remember. I

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Speaker 1: do remember sticking up for him and going after going

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Speaker 1: after him after they they played the you know, the

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Speaker 1: I remember that. Yeah, you were a good guy. I

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Speaker 1: John Sears, Yeah, we're still mad. I mean he yeah,

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Speaker 1: he mistreated my best friends here. So what happened though?

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Speaker 1: Why did you leave? Why it was it only five

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Speaker 1: episodes for you? Yeah? I don't know. We do have

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Speaker 1: Armstrong played Mike Ryan. Were confused, why did this happen?

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Speaker 1: I have no idea, I have no idea. I was

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Speaker 1: just thinking how grateful I am that they didn't just

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Speaker 1: happened apparently. Jeez, it's a tough business. No, no, m

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Speaker 1: You started off on in TV on shows like Falcon Crest,

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Speaker 1: which I loved. I'm a huge daytime so but nighttime

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Speaker 1: so predominantly, and yes, love Ferris Bueller. Ferris Bueller. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the one of the series regulars as well. Multi camera

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Speaker 1: like in front of a live audience. No, it was

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Speaker 1: a single camera Okay, it was not audience. It was fun,

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Speaker 1: it just was not very good. Say that. And you

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Speaker 1: were in one of my favorite movies, Four Keeps Left.

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Speaker 1: That movie used to be Maybe Baby. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: a good movie, Molly, Yeah, Randall back movie, good movie.

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Speaker 1: What was Class of ninety six? So I'm actually glad

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Speaker 1: you brought that up. Classic ninety six was probably my

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Speaker 1: most favorite thing that I was that in Doctor Quinn

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Speaker 1: Medicine Woman, which which is been a huge part of

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Speaker 1: my life, which I'll get to in a second. Classic

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Speaker 1: ninety six was a one hour drama and it was

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Speaker 1: created by the now late Leonard Goldberg of Spelling Goldberg

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Speaker 1: from obviously your Father, Yes Story and the creator of

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Speaker 1: your show one and so they were partners throughout the

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Speaker 1: seventies eighties and didn't dynasty in all these huge shows. Right.

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Speaker 1: So Leonard created Class of ninety six and it was

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Speaker 1: an East Coast version. Starting College is nine O two

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Speaker 1: kind of didn't didn't catch on fast enough, even though

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Speaker 1: but it was extremely well written. Um Peter Horton from

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Speaker 1: God this is jogging back so many memories thirty something, right,

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Speaker 1: thirty something, Yeah, he was the he wrote the pilot. No,

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Speaker 1: was just really really well well done shows. Just the

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Speaker 1: timing was off. Remember that show party at five? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: of course I feel like it followed us at some

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Speaker 1: point of saying, vibe the same field of Class of

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Speaker 1: ninety six. That's interesting. Leonard did Class of Year and

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Speaker 1: then it caught on. I think we've had another year

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Speaker 1: Lenard Goldberg did Class of ninety six, which is interesting

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Speaker 1: Class of Beverly Hills. I remember that so wild. I

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Speaker 1: to play. That was before okay, and then what was after?

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Speaker 1: Then I think Doctor Quinn. I think Doctor Quinn Medicineman,

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Speaker 1: which I was on for like almost five years. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that must have been so much fun to shoot that.

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Speaker 1: and she's the coolest. Yeah, she's so cool, She's great.

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Speaker 1: And then I ended up marrying into the family, marrying

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Speaker 1: Really your your real life wife? How? How how did

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