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Speaker 1: Hey, what is up everybody? Welcome to the Guiltiest Charge Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by the Chargers Podcast Network. My name is Stephen

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Speaker 1: and I am your host, and joining me as always

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Speaker 1: is my guy Tyler or Tyler. What's up man? How

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Speaker 1: you doing today?

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Speaker 2: Doing very well? Not too bad for a Monday.

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Speaker 1: How about you doing good? On summer break? I work

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Speaker 1: at a year round school, so we get two weeks off,

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Speaker 1: in some you know, my face is a little red today,

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Speaker 1: so apologies for that. I got to use the sunscreen

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Speaker 1: next time. But yeah, you can't complain. It was a

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Speaker 2: Good. Yeah, just listen to the audio. Don't watch the video, becau.

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Speaker 2: Stephen's too red in the face apparently.

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Speaker 1: No, not too red in the face. You know, it

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Speaker 1: was not super hot today. Up the Fresno is a

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Speaker 1: nice day, so can't complain. All right, So we have

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Speaker 1: a fun show plan for you guys today. We've done

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Speaker 1: a lot of kind of checking in with the Chargers

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Speaker 1: roster in terms of like what do they have, who

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Speaker 1: ranks where, and things like that. Today we're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about some potential additions that the Chargers could potentially

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Speaker 1: make to maybe put a bow on their roster, some

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Speaker 1: very notable names that have recently been released. And then

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Speaker 1: we'll also talk about some potential trade candidates for the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: So good show today, just kind of assessing, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe feeling like the Charger are one piece away in

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Speaker 1: a certain position group. You know, looking long term is

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Speaker 1: something I think is very valuable as we head into

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Speaker 1: the final months of the offseason.

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Speaker 2: Here ready, I'm ready when you are.

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Speaker 1: As always, Tyer and I are fans of the team

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Speaker 1: just like you guys are. So our opinions that we

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Speaker 1: express today and every single week are not always reflective

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Speaker 1: of the Charger Chargers organization themselves. At the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, we are independent content creators, you know, here

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Speaker 1: to have a good time here to talk about some

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Speaker 1: some football stuff and hopefully have some good discussion discussion

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Speaker 1: with you guys in the comments as well. So as always,

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Speaker 1: you know, feel free to subscribe to the Chargers channel

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Speaker 1: and a subscription over there as well. We really appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: So that being said, Tyler, there's been a lot of

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Speaker 1: talk on social media about the Chargers potentially adding DeAndre

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Speaker 1: England Patriots coming up here after that, potentially taking other

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Speaker 1: visits as well. So let's start with Dalvin Cook, recently

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Speaker 1: released from the Minnesota Vikings. Obviously, the Chargers have some

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Speaker 2: Interested is fine by me and for what it's worth. Also,

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Speaker 2: if they were interested in him. Of course, because it's

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Speaker 2: this point, no, there is not. If Joshua Kelly had

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Speaker 2: especially if those stats that he had while he was

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Speaker 2: But he didn't play the entire year, and it was

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Speaker 2: So the Chargers being interested in him in Dalvin Cook

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Speaker 2: He caught all of you know, negative four passes last season,

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Speaker 2: you know, is Doalvin Cook washed? And there was real

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Speaker 2: And the Minnesota Vikings were twenty ninth in rushing EPA

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it was very frustrating. The Vikings were fifteen

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Speaker 2: They were twenty fifth and rushing success rate where the

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Speaker 2: and please go read Ted Win article about that, there's

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Speaker 2: more to it than this. But Dobbin Cook was forty

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Speaker 2: two thirds of the yard are I guess two feet

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Speaker 2: more than what was blocked last season. And listen the Vikings.

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Speaker 2: that's worrisome. So I'd get it if they signed him,

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Speaker 2: and I would completely understand why they didn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the cost is worrisome. Like you're talking about his contract.

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Speaker 1: he's going to want to recoup as much of that

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Speaker 1: not interested. That's one concern for me. The second concern,

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Speaker 1: which is is kind of what you're talking about and

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Speaker 1: he nowhere close? Is he already starting to fall? Is

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Speaker 1: Dalvin Cook in terms of like his you know, fall

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Speaker 1: there's a debate of really how efficient and effective Dalvin

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Speaker 1: rushing yards are expected is a good way to show that.

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Speaker 1: I think when you look at his pure stats, like

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Speaker 1: you see a very productive runner of the football, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about one of the only players

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Speaker 1: He's very you know, dynamic from from start to finish,

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Speaker 1: he does ranked pretty favorably in terms of misstackles forced.

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Speaker 1: he had again tied for eighth in yards of ten

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Speaker 1: if you can pay him four or five million dollars

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Speaker 1: that's a world where Dalvin Cook can be a very

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Speaker 1: how much does he think he should get paid? And

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Speaker 1: the Chargers, they would be more of like a wait

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Speaker 1: and see on Dalvin Cook, Like, let Dalvin Cook go

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Speaker 1: expensive player market is not good to him, then maybe

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Speaker 1: the Chargers kind of enter into that conversation at that point.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I even think in the same vein of as

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Speaker 2: and I believe at this point would be a better

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Speaker 2: different timings, different timings for this organization for Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is you know, next year when the charters

430
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Speaker 1: might have to make a decision on Mike Williams and

431
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Speaker 1: Keenan Allen, you know, and they need, you know, a

432
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Speaker 1: veteran receiver to fill that Mike Williams role. At that point,

433
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Speaker 1: I could understand a DeAndre Hopkins signing, you know, he

434
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Speaker 1: would be another year older obviously, but very curious to

435
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Speaker 1: see where he does end up because he's saying all

436
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Speaker 1: the right things in terms of I want to go

437
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Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl, I want to contend, and then

438
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Speaker 1: also saying that he wants over eighteen million dollars in

439
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Speaker 1: visiting the Titans and the Patriots. So just a bit

440
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Speaker 1: of a head scratcher.

441
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Speaker 2: There, Yeah, it's a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Wish him the best, yes, one hundred percent. I think

443
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Speaker 1: it's very cool that he likes Justin Herbert so much.

444
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Speaker 1: Definitely think that's cool. All right, So Tyler and I

445
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Speaker 1: have brought up a couple of names here, or prepared

446
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Speaker 1: a couple names to look at some potential trade targets

447
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Speaker 1: for the Chargers as well. Again as we head into

448
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Speaker 1: the late parts of the off season, you know, rounding

449
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Speaker 1: out the roster, adding some pieces. Again, they have one

450
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Speaker 1: roster spot, Avai Wele that can change, but the first

451
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Speaker 1: one that I wanted to bring up is mister Noah Fant,

452
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Speaker 1: somebody that has ties to Brandon Sadie from their time

453
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Speaker 1: in Denver. One of the more intriguing tight ends of

454
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Speaker 1: the last few years. Right. He was a first round

455
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Speaker 1: pick by the Broncos, a part of the Russell Wilson trade,

456
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Speaker 1: a piece that the Seattle Seahawks were at least reportedly

457
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Speaker 1: very excited about. We've talked a lot about the tight

458
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Speaker 1: end room maybe needing one more piece here, Tyler, what

459
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Speaker 1: would you make of potentially trading for Noah Fant.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw an audible here, and I would say

461
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Speaker 2: that be the disappointing acquisition from a Seahawks tight end. Oh,

462
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Speaker 2: I'm looking at Kolbe Parkinson on the last year of

463
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Speaker 2: his deal, who likely costs less to trade for, and

464
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Speaker 2: he will not a former first rounder about five and

465
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Speaker 2: a half million dollars cheaper. Graded out better as a

466
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Speaker 2: run blocker, eighth in the NFL as a run not granded.

467
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Speaker 2: Run blocking grades are subjective, but I hey, I haven't

468
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Speaker 2: graded all the blocking tight ends in the NFL, and

469
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Speaker 2: you haven't either, So eighth in the NFL. I had

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Speaker 2: a fan at fifty first, he's the third receiving priority

471
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Speaker 2: on his team, so he's priority number three, and in

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Speaker 2: certain terms of tight ends, I should say priority number

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Speaker 2: three in an offense that just added Jackson Smith and

474
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Speaker 2: Jigba Zach Charboney. Not that he's a target hog, but still,

475
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Speaker 2: but of those three tight ends he's first, and yards

476
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Speaker 2: and reper perception yards after the catch, per perception yards

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Speaker 2: per rock run, no drops. His entire career spends behalf

478
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Speaker 2: of snaps in line no offense. I was looking at

479
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Speaker 2: no offense numbers because I wanted to know, like, okay,

480
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Speaker 2: like when you brought him up in my great that

481
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Speaker 2: makes a ton of sense. Another tight end for this

482
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Speaker 2: We've been kind of dying for maybe a true I

483
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Speaker 2: mean really a true number one, or a true number two,

484
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Speaker 2: or even a true number three, and the Chargers have

485
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Speaker 2: a lot of question marks at all three of those spots.

486
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Speaker 2: Fan would settle in somewhere. You know, I think is

487
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Speaker 2: a worst a solid number two. But I just think

488
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Speaker 2: Kobe Parkinson, for his role and his numbers and his

489
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Speaker 2: cost I actually ended up liking him looking at the

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Speaker 2: numbers more than someone like Noah Fant.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Kobe Parkinson put on one of the better blocking

492
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Speaker 1: performances of an opposing tight end that I've watched over

493
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Speaker 1: the last three years, and what he did against the

494
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Speaker 1: Chargers last year on tape man is a lot of fun.

495
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Speaker 1: If you're a big fan of blocking tight ends, Kobe

496
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Speaker 1: Parkinson is a guy for you. So I don't hate that.

497
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Speaker 1: I think Kobe Parkinson is would be a solid option again,

498
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Speaker 1: complementing what the Chargers already have. You get him and

499
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Speaker 1: Donald parm as your two blockers, two main blockers. I

500
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Speaker 1: would feel really really good about that. You know, again

501
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Speaker 1: cheaper like you mentioned as well, maybe behind some guys

502
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Speaker 1: that you know that doesn't allow him to show his

503
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 1: full repertoire as a football player. Will Disley has been

504
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Speaker 1: on the Seahawks forever. They loved that guy, and then

505
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Speaker 1: off they invested a lot in him. You know, he

506
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Speaker 1: was a part of the Russell Wilson trade. So the

507
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Speaker 1: reason I wanted to bring up Noah Fant is not

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Speaker 1: so much to compliment the Chargers room, but potentially being

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Speaker 1: their long term tight end one. This is something that

510
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Speaker 1: the Chargers have struggled to find in the post Hunter

511
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Speaker 1: Henry era, and you know he wasn't you know, a

512
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Speaker 1: super long term fit either, So Noahfan is interesting to me.

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Speaker 1: He actually had his lowest production of his career this

514
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Speaker 1: past year with the Seahawks. He only had sixty five targets,

515
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Speaker 1: which was his lowest since his rookie season, fifty one catches,

516
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Speaker 1: again lowess since his rookie season, and they really kind

517
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Speaker 1: of turned him into a big slot receiver. That was

518
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Speaker 1: not something that he had done previous. But in twenty

519
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Speaker 1: twenty two, his UH slot percentage went skyrocketed up from

520
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Speaker 1: his previous career high. His previous career high it was

521
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Speaker 1: as a rookie in twenty nineteen at twenty seven percent.

522
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Speaker 1: This past season it was forty one point three percent,

523
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Speaker 1: so again that was really like a big difference for him.

524
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Speaker 1: They really kind of condensed his workload. He didn't get

525
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Speaker 1: to run as many deep rats as previously as adat

526
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Speaker 1: was lower, so they really kind of turned him into

527
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Speaker 1: the safety blanket and it turned into his, you know,

528
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Speaker 1: least productive season of his career. It's interesting here because

529
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Speaker 1: they drafted Jackson Smith and Jigboh. You just mentioned that's

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Speaker 1: his role. He's he's the slock guy, He's the safety blanket.

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Speaker 1: So I'm just curious about, like where the fit is

532
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Speaker 1: in Seattle for Noah fan. You know, the Seahawks have

533
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Speaker 1: never really used a tight end that much, outside of

534
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Speaker 1: like Greg Olsen the one year that he was there.

535
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Speaker 1: It's not been a position that they really priority ties,

536
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Speaker 1: you know, so we've seen them kind of focus more

537
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Speaker 1: on these guys like Will Diesley and Kolbe Parkinson, and

538
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Speaker 1: so I just I don't know if there's a place

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Speaker 1: long term for no Offense in Denver. So I would

540
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Speaker 1: be curious to see what he would look like with

541
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Speaker 1: the Chargers. You get him in here, get him in

542
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Speaker 1: his building. He's probably your tight end two this year,

543
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Speaker 1: but maybe he's your long term tight end one. I

544
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Speaker 1: think that's a shot that I would be willing to

545
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Speaker 1: take because tight end is such a hard position to draft.

546
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Speaker 1: We just had the best tight end drafted probably ever

547
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Speaker 1: and the Charges didn't take one, which is fine. I

548
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: totally understand that process, right, but they do need a

549
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Speaker 1: long term tight end, and I would be interested in

550
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Speaker 1: no Offense and his long term potential. You know, this

551
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Speaker 1: is a guy who we saw put up six hundred

552
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Speaker 1: and seventy yards in twenty twenty and twenty twenty one

553
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Speaker 1: with some combination of Drew Locke and others in Denver.

554
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Speaker 1: So I think the talent is there for no offense

555
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Speaker 1: to outproduce what he has put on the field, and

556
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Speaker 1: I think that's a chance the Charters should be at

557
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Speaker 1: least considering right now.

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Speaker 2: All right, First off, completely forgot the Greg Olsen played

559
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Speaker 2: for the Seahawks at all, So thank you for that

560
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 2: blast from two years ago, but still I completely forgot

561
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Speaker 2: about that. A couple of questions then with that, so

562
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Speaker 2: with how he plays and how they used him, and

563
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: maybe that changes of course with a different team and

564
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Speaker 2: Kellen Moore, But how does he fit then in the

565
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: short term with Gerald Everett, who's going to be more

566
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Speaker 2: your slock guy, less in line, and then in terms

567
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Speaker 2: of long term, like, yeah, this is your long term

568
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 2: fit and your tight end one, which I'd love, don't

569
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Speaker 2: get me wrong, justin Herbert needs a consistent you know,

570
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 2: for four years, you just know who your tight end

571
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Speaker 2: one is. But can the Chargers pull that off financially?

572
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Speaker 1: Do you think I think they could? Because he's not

573
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Speaker 1: going to be a guy that's going to command top

574
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Speaker 1: dollar with his next contract. You know, he's not put

575
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Speaker 1: up that kind of money. Then again, the Browns paid

576
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: David n Joku, you know, twelve million dollars after his

577
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Speaker 1: career high of like three hundred and fifty yards receiving

578
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 1: or whatever it was, but no offense coming here. I

579
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Speaker 1: think he would compliment Gerald Everett's skill set really well

580
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Speaker 1: as pass catchers. I would love for Donald Parham to

581
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Speaker 1: be healthy, right and I think he's shown a lot

582
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Speaker 1: of potential, but he does have some injury concern and

583
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Speaker 1: so I think you can get a similar role with

584
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Speaker 1: Noahfense in terms of, you know, working the seams from

585
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: the inline position, gives you some yards after catchability. He's

586
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Speaker 1: able to be a big body in the red zone.

587
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Speaker 1: I think you don't necessarily have to view Everett and

588
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Speaker 1: No Offense in a similar way because Gerald Evert can

589
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Speaker 1: do so much in the slot like that is something

590
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Speaker 1: that Gerald Everett is very comfortable with in excels at.

591
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Speaker 1: That's not really no offense game, or at least it

592
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: wasn't in his first three seasons, So it's just a name.

593
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Speaker 1: I thought that was interesting because his role in Seattle's

594
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Speaker 1: just kind of in question, and his long term fit

595
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Speaker 1: is in question, and it just doesn't really fit like

596
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: their style, but maybe with the Chargers that could be

597
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Speaker 1: really kind of the that they are missing in the

598
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: tight end room and could really kind of, you know,

599
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Speaker 1: stabilize the long term outlook at the position.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I certainly watched that Charger of Seattle game, watch

601
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Speaker 2: Seattle run the football, and I just look at the

602
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Speaker 2: tight ends when I want to have one of those,

603
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Speaker 2: And two of those would be great too, Like they

604
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Speaker 2: just were fantastic. So I would get it, honestly, any

605
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: of these guys I would totally understand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I do think No Offense is at least like

607
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Speaker 1: a serviceable blocker. I don't think he's as bad as

608
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Speaker 1: his great indicates, but I don't think he's like an

609
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Speaker 1: elite blocker by any means either. M Okay. The other

610
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Speaker 1: one that we wanted to wrap the show up here

611
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: with is a former draftmate of Justin Herbert, and that

612
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Speaker 1: is mister Chase Young. Not a ton of connections there, obviously,

613
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Speaker 1: with Chase Young being a younger player, mostly being in

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Speaker 1: Washington for the bulk of his career, actually not mostly

615
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Speaker 1: all of Washington. The Commanders have declined his fifth year option,

616
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Speaker 1: so he's going to be a free agent after this

617
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Speaker 1: upcoming season. They've paid a lot of money to their interior.

618
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Speaker 1: They're kind of doing it backwards. Montes Sweat also a

619
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Speaker 1: free agent. He's playing on his fifth year option this year,

620
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Speaker 1: so the commander is probably only getting to keep one

621
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Speaker 1: of these two guys, so long term outlooking question for

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Speaker 1: Chase Young, Tyler, but what would you make and what

623
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Speaker 1: would you think the process is potentially considering Chase Young?

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Speaker 2: You have to consider, if you, well, two things, the

625
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Speaker 2: cost or I guess three things, so the cost of it?

626
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Speaker 2: Of course, what is the cost of the acquisition? Will

627
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: they be taking any any of this contract, et cetera.

628
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Speaker 2: And that's something for people smarter than me to discuss

629
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Speaker 2: and figure out. I don't care about that part. Someone

630
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: else have figured it out for me. The next thing is,

631
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Speaker 2: and maybe the biggest thing is that do you feel

632
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Speaker 2: like you're a team and a defense that can take

633
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Speaker 2: Chase Young? A guy who is so talented and you know,

634
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Speaker 2: everyone said you look at Nick Bos like at Joey

635
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 2: Bo said, well, this Chase Young guy is actually the

636
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 2: best of the three. Hasn't panned out like that, but

637
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: he had so much talent. Can you take him and

638
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: revitalize his career like you did for a lot of

639
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: guys on your front seven last season. So you know,

640
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know why Kyle Vannoy's career

641
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 2: is going to go from this point, but he finished

642
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 2: out very, very strong. He looked at someone like Austin Johnson.

643
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 2: He was on his way to having a career year.

644
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: Sebastian Joseph Day had a solid year, though he didn't

645
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 2: get to see it completely. Morgan Fox had arguably the

646
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: best year of his entire career. So can you take

647
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: someone like Chase Young and do the same for him?

648
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: I think the answer is yes there, and I think

649
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: you also feel good that not just as a pass rusher,

650
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: which is something that they would have to further and develop,

651
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 2: but he is better as a run defender, at least statistically.

652
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 2: I can't say I've watched a ton of Washington Commander's film.

653
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 2: The only time I've really watched them is when Mashaun

654
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 2: Slater made him disappear, but that he does with everybody

655
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: but twenty seventh and run stop rate out of nine

656
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty three people third and average up to

657
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: tackle against the run is really solid too, And that's

658
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: easy too.

659
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: Or twenty twenty one.

660
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: It might have been twenty twenty one. I don't know anyway.

661
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 2: Point is, I do believe that you can, at least,

662
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 2: if nothing else, take him and Adam to be a

663
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: stronger run defender for your team rather than a pass rusher.

664
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 2: Is that worth the trade acquisition cost? I'm not sure,

665
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 2: but I do feel like I would love the Chargers

666
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 2: to be a team that consistently is able to find

667
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 2: It's weird to call him this but like a reclamation

668
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,399
Speaker 2: project and he's not really, but take him, maximize him,

669
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: send him out, you know. And Chase Young a former

670
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 2: first rounder. Everyone knows him and his talent. If he

671
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: has a solid year, you get a heck of a

672
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 2: compic for him if he's able to maximize that and

673
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: maximize his contract value, which he should. He's a pass

674
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 2: rusher who is well known, who should be coming off

675
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 2: of a really strong year and from a hopefully strong defense.

676
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: So I would say yes to this as long as

677
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 2: the cost to acquire him is fine. I love Tully.

678
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: I think he is going to be awesome, but he

679
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: is very, very young, and we saw last year different

680
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: because this player was a fourth rounder. But Isaiah Spiller,

681
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 2: you know, was twenty himself, and they've slowly worked him

682
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: into things. And I don't know if that's the same

683
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: for the defensive side of the ball. With Tully two

684
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 2: below two. I don't believe he's twenty one yet. I

685
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 2: believe it's be twenty one in a bit. So the

686
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 2: Chargers might slowly work him and they want they might

687
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 2: want someone more proven at this point. Chase Hung probably

688
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: very expensive, probably won't take you know, just a seventh

689
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 2: rounder to go get him. But I can't say no

690
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 2: to the idea of adding him as long as the

691
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 2: cost is there.

692
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you brought up the reclamation aspect of

693
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: this because I think that is what you're doing with

694
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: with Chase Hung and potentially considering him for trade, because

695
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: you know, this is something that the Rams have done,

696
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: you know, a year and a year on whether it

697
00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: was training for Robert Quinn or Tante Fowler or whoever, right,

698
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 1: and then they get big contracts and then the Chargers

699
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: or the Rams excuse me, get the compis so if

700
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: you're the Commanders, you know, looking at from their perspective,

701
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: what are you potentially getting if you hold on to

702
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: Chase Young? And that compick pans out right. Theoretically, if

703
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: Chase Young hits his ceiling and you can't afford to

704
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: keep him, you're probably talking about a third or a

705
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: fourth round compick in twenty twenty five. If you're considering

706
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 1: trading him, then maybe you get a fourth or a

707
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: fifth round pick this year. So how do you weigh

708
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: that cost of Well, let's hold on to Chase and

709
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 1: let's see if he can hit his ceiling in twenty

710
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: twenty three. If he does, we'll get a really nice

711
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: compic out of it in twenty twenty five. Versus, he

712
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: was not having a great season before he got injured,

713
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: before he tore his ACL in twenty twenty two, at

714
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: least as a pass rusher, I mean, it was twenty

715
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,520
Speaker 1: four total pressures, two sacks. According to PFF, his win

716
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: rate was actually higher as a rookie than it was

717
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two. So what's the maybe the floor

718
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: of Chase Young. What kind of calm pick does that

719
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: get us in twenty twenty five. Maybe that's a sixth

720
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: or seventh round compick because he's just not able to

721
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 1: put it all together this year. So if a team

722
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 1: comes to you and says, hey, like, we'll give you

723
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: a fourth round pick for Chase Young, and then the

724
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: Chargers are able to rehabilitate him, you know, get him

725
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 1: back up to speed, and then maybe the Chargers get

726
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 1: a third round compick for him in twenty twenty five.

727
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of layers there. But for the Chargers,

728
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: I think that's worth it. And also there's a world

729
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: where the Chargers are moving on from Khlumack or Jolie

730
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 1: Bosa or both after the season. Maybe you keep Chase

731
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: Young and you give him, i don't know, a fifteen

732
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: million dollars per year contract and you're able to work

733
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: that in as opposed to what the Chargers have previously.

734
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of layers here. But to me,

735
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: this is like, I think the Chargers could use another

736
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: pass rushing body. I don't think it necessarily has to

737
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: be a former first round pick, former number two overall pick,

738
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: but I do I would like to see them at

739
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 1: least add some competition to the room. Again, I think

740
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: two Lee is going to be great. I think it

741
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: was my pick for most instant impact. But we don't

742
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: know that with certainty. We don't know what we're getting

743
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: out of Chris Frump. We're hoping we get improvement, right,

744
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: but getting some kind of proven production I think would

745
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,919
Speaker 1: be useful for this team and just gives them some flexibility.

746
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: So I like the idea of adding Chaseng to this room.

747
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 1: I like the idea of maybe he is your long

748
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: term replacement for Khalil Mack. Maybe he is a comp

749
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: pick chance you know, next year. But either way, I

750
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: think this would make sense for the Chargers, And if

751
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: the Commanders are open to dealing him, then I think

752
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: the Charger should be calling.

753
00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: What is his current prognosis for the whole ACL to

754
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: actually tour in November?

755
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: So he should be good. He played so yeah, he

756
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: played the last three or four games last season. Let

757
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: me make sure he did. He played sixteen, seventeen, and eighteen.

758
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: He only played thirty snaps in Week sixteen, but he

759
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: played forty seven in Week eighteen, so he should be

760
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: back on track. I mean we're talking about you know,

761
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: by the time the season starts will be almost two

762
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: full years removed from the surgery, so he should be healthy.

763
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 1: It just kind of, I guess depends where the Commanders

764
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 1: at are at in terms of is he going to

765
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: be around long term? Are we comfortable with choosing Montes

766
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: Sweat already? Can we afford Montes Sweat? So, you know,

767
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: the Commanders have a big decision here to pick between

768
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: these guys. Maybe let both of them walk. I don't know. So, like,

769
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 1: if I'm the Commanders, I'm trying to trade Chase Young now.

770
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: And you know, then again, maybe they think they're better

771
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: than they actually are too, So I don't know.

772
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, who knows. Was Ron Rivera there when they drafted him?

773
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 2: They had? Yeah, it has been, Yes, that sounds I

774
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 2: think the reports are coming out that Ron Rivera has

775
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 2: final say in personal decisions, so I believe. So, there's

776
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: no way it's only been it's been less than three years.

777
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: I haven't really had like Okay, So for some reason,

778
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: I thought Chase Young towards ACL last season when he

779
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 2: recovered from it and came back last season.

780
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so he tore it at the end of

781
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one season. It was November, Ron Rivera.

782
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,040
Speaker 2: Look at us not knowing the answer to this one

783
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 2: right off the top of our heads. Twenty twenty so

784
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 2: that he was the here was the pick when they

785
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:35,839
Speaker 2: drafted him.

786
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was Rookie of the Year. For what

787
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,319
Speaker 1: it's worth, I think that year was just kind of

788
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 1: a down year for defensive rookies. But you know, I

789
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: still think that there's a lot of potential. You know,

790
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: Chase Young, for me personally, was one of the best

791
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: defensive rookies defensive prospects that I've graded. Still, his grade

792
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: was very, very high for me. I still believe in

793
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: that potential. You know, past strushures do typically peak when

794
00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: they're like twenty six, twenty seven years old. It takes

795
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: them a little bit to get their legs under them.

796
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: So I still think that Chase Young has some potential,

797
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 1: and maybe he hits that this year and then we're

798
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: talking about a completely different kind of player. But as

799
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: of now, like if you're a Commanders fan, you've got

800
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: to be pretty disappointed in the returns that you've got

801
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: out of him, and you know, maybe getting a fourth

802
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: round pick for him would maybe make you feel a little

803
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: bit better.

804
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: There's no way a Washington Commanders fan is going to

805
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 2: say he's worth the fourth round pick, though. But the

806
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 2: NFL's very different. Our expectations for what a player is

807
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: worth is very different than what it actually ends up happening.

808
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Tyler, any other player that you wanted

809
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:42,720
Speaker 1: to bring up here as a potential signing or trade

810
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: for the Chargers as we head into the meat of

811
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: the offseason.

812
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: Not necessarily a player. I'm just very desperate for any

813
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 2: kind of competition at tackle. We've talked about this a

814
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 2: zillion times, but you look at you know, they won't

815
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 2: play the Browns this year, but potentially in the playoffs

816
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: day trade fers the brown for Deserdaria Smith and the

817
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: Chiefs get a mena who and the Raiders at Wilson

818
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 2: and the Jets at Will McDonald and the Chiefs also drafted,

819
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 2: and a Ducate Uzama. You're the Bengals at Miles Murphy.

820
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 2: You're looking throughout the playoffs potentially or something under schedule

821
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:18,840
Speaker 2: like the Packers in van Ness, and you just really

822
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 2: want to make sure that throughout those games you have

823
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 2: a swing tackle feel really good about. And Hey, like

824
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: all the players and the Chargers, I hope they're Hall

825
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: of famers, but I am obviously I think we all

826
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 2: are until proven otherwise. You know, worried about Foster several

827
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 2: as that backup swing tackle. Hope he's awesome, but for

828
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: some comparison, like his past blocking efficiency was ninety four

829
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 2: point four last season, even Storm Norton's was ninety five

830
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 2: the previous season. So just a bit of context there.

831
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 2: So I don't know who, I don't know what, but

832
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: I hope they add somebody, because while I hope all

833
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: these guys are fantastic, I don't love the process of

834
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 2: not adding someone at this point.

835
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Foster, to his credit, has been working

836
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: all offseason along with Duke, Nannyweather, Rashawn and Trey Pipkins.

837
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 1: So he's putting in the work. You know, you can

838
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: tell that he's he's cut some weight, it looks like

839
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,919
Speaker 1: and the pictures from today, So I hope he works

840
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: out right, Like I mean, he was a former five

841
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: star recruit as at Stanford, so there is some natural

842
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: talent there that maybe might be untapped. But I would

843
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: love some competition, Like that's it for me, Like it

844
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: was the same kind of story last season, and thankfully

845
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: it worked out with Trey, but I would just love

846
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: to be able to have, you know, a veteran in

847
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,280
Speaker 1: that room to to add some stability, add some competition.

848
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 1: Not a ton of great options left. Guys like Billy

849
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: Turner and Cam Fleming have recently signed, but you know

850
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: there's like a Dennis Kelly type of tackle still out there.

851
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: Cameron Irving, who played for Kellen Moore in Dallas, is

852
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: another option. I think could you know, he's kind of

853
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: played all over the place, But I think adding another

854
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: veteran in the room would make a lot of sense

855
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: for me.

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Speaker 2: Anybody else that you'd want to add, no, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean we've talked a lot about the safety room. You know,

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Speaker 1: we would both love to add a potential safety in

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Speaker 1: that group, again, just adding competition in depth. I think

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Speaker 1: we both feel pretty comfortable with a Lowhi starting, but

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Speaker 1: just would like to have a bit of a backstop

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Speaker 1: if anything happens to him, because I think if if

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Speaker 1: a Lowie or Dorin are to miss time, then you

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Speaker 1: don't feel great about the safety room. So doesn't even

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Speaker 1: have to be John Johnson, that's obviously the big name

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Speaker 1: that everybody wants. You know, a guy like Ronnie Harrison,

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Speaker 1: who was John Johnson's former teammate. I've talked about a

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Speaker 1: couple of times that would make some sense to me,

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Speaker 1: But I just I think they do need another veteran

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Speaker 1: in the secondary in general. But specifically at safety.

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Speaker 2: Yep. But the good news is everyone's staying healthy this year,

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Speaker 2: so it's not going to be a problem.

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Speaker 1: Fingers crossed, Fingers crossed. All right, Tyler, that's gonna do

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Speaker 1: it for us today. Thanks so much for tuning in everyone.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for the to the Chargers and the

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Speaker 1: production team for helping us out. As always, make sure

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Speaker 1: comment let us know if you guys have any other

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Speaker 1: prospects or players not prospect If you have any players

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Speaker 1: that you think the Chargers should be adding or interested

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Speaker 1: in adding, let us know. Be sure to be active

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Speaker 1: in the comments. Hope you guys enjoyed the episode and

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Speaker 1: that's it. We'll see you next week. As always, both up.