1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This he's Talking Cowboys, 3 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World headhours at the 4 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Following list and now your hosts, Isaiah Stanback, 5 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's It's a 6 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys here from the SWBC Mortgage 7 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: Studio and the Star in Frisco. Welcome in everybody, whether 8 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: you're listening on Dallas Cowboys dot Com, the various streaming platforms, iTunes, Periscope, 9 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 1: be sure to to go follow Talking Cowboys, Go subscribe 10 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: if you're on iTunes, click that button. It takes like 11 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: two seconds. Go and click that and support our shows 12 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,680 Speaker 1: throughout the year because no matter win or lose, we 13 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: might have a two and seven team to cover, but 14 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: we as Talking Cowboys are nine and oh just to 15 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: say the least, So go ahead and follow up. Wow, 16 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 1: that's cocky. We're always gonna be spitting hot fire. Yes, 17 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 1: always hot fire, and yes a little bit cocky, but 18 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 1: that's okay. Rob Phillips, Heck Harrison, the Great, Isaiah stand Back, 19 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeoman's and gentleman, it's Thursday, which means we're 20 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: a day away from saying saying it with our chest 21 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: on say it with your chest Friday. But I have 22 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: an interesting hypothetical for you guys, and we're gonna start 23 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: the show with this, which is a little bit different. Normally, 24 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: we go into injury reports and we kind of update 25 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: the team and update what's going on. We'll talk about 26 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: that coming up in a second, but I sent out 27 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: this hypothetical on Twitter yesterday based off of events in 28 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: New York. And I know, Heck, you're you're a big 29 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: fighting guy. You're a big boxing fan. Rob you you 30 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: like that as well. Isaiah. I haven't really had that 31 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: conversation with you, but I think you're pretty good. I'm 32 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 1: looking forward to the tight. Okay, so we're three for 33 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: three here based on events that happened in New York. 34 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: Of course, for those that don't know, the facts are 35 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: is that Mark Colombo, former coach here at the Dallas 36 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys and offensive line coach with the Giants, was fired yesterday. 37 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: That's the facts. But now there's some rumors that circled 38 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: yesterday at least, and some of them have been debunked, 39 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: but it raised this question, but that he had gotten 40 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: into an altercation with the head coach, Joe Judge. Now 41 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: my question is is if this coaching staff that the 42 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys have right now had gotten into let's say 43 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: a UFC style boxing battle royale type thing, who would 44 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,440 Speaker 1: come out on top. That's my question to start talking 45 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 1: cowboys on a Thursday. Yeah, we're starting the show act. Yes, 46 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: this is how we're starting at hack and if you 47 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: want to go first, you can. But Rob had a 48 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: little heads up because we talked about it yesterday. But 49 00:02:57,880 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: Rob could probably start us off with who he things 50 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: could come out on top. Uh. Can I just say, 51 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: first of all, I wouldn't fight Mark Colombo if you 52 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: paid me. I don't know. Six g seven geez, Isaiah. 53 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: He's a lot lighter than he used to be, though, Rob, 54 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: I think I got you know, you got a chance. 55 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: He's still six eight and you can't teach that. So 56 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: I don't teach that. I can't. I can't go there. 57 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,680 Speaker 1: But okay, I'll play along with you. Kyle. I'm going 58 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 1: to Jim tom Sula, Baby, Jim tom Sula. I know 59 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: he's not the tallest guy on the coaching staff. And 60 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: this is kind of a tough question because we haven't 61 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: been around the coaches really at all this year. Uh, 62 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: but d line coaches, to me are among the most 63 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: intimidating people on the planet. And uh, he's a great guy, 64 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't want to make him angry, just like 65 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to make Rod Marinelli angry back in 66 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: the day. So I'll go with mister Tom Sulam say, 67 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: that's a that's a good pick. He took that one 68 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 1: away from me. Robbins. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but 69 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: I'm hey, I'm gonna stand that same vein. Now I 70 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: know that big Cat leon letstill on staff, So I'm 71 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: going with big Cat. Like you said, you k teach height. 72 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: I think cat six seven, So there you go, and 73 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: he'll have to reach on most of us, So that 74 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: is I'm gonna cat. Yeah, I think you went there. Yeah, 75 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 1: that's pretty Are we going? Are we going like any 76 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 1: coach on the staff? On the staff, any coach? I 77 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: am going to go with coach McCarthy. WHOA, I'm going 78 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 1: to coach McCarthy. Coach McCarthy looks like he will wrestle 79 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: the crap out of you. And he literally he put 80 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: like a big thing of true and cook that being 81 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: in his lip and like huge, like let's go. Yeah, 82 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: I can just see that, right. He probably got cauliflower 83 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: ere he's been hiding with the masks and stuff. I 84 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: don't know, but I'm going with coach McCarthy. He's got califlower. Yeah. Well, 85 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: then you also got McCarthy. I mean his backgrounds from 86 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh and they know how to they know how to 87 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: fight up in Pittsburgh. They'll come tough out of that 88 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: region of the country. So you know what, Yeah, never 89 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 1: my good. Oh, I don't know. I don't even want 90 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: to know where you're going with that. But coach McCarthy 91 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: doesn't have a neck, man, you don't want to wrestle 92 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: nobody who doesn't have a neck. That's like a Brahma 93 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: bull man. You have a chance. I like, listen, hear 94 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: me out here, though, John Fossil and I somebody threw 95 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: this out yesterday and Chris even talked about it yesterday. 96 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: But the trickery that's involved there, he would pull something 97 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,919 Speaker 1: out of the hat. He'd pull something out of the 98 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: hat to win that fight and come out on top. 99 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: So I would say, how about John Fossil there for 100 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of a sneaky pick an underdog. I 101 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: also think Doug nuss Meyer would do well in a 102 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: in a ring like that. I think he's quick, he's agile, 103 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: he's still in shape, and if quarterbacks coach, he's got 104 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: the headspace to come through. So I think nuss Meyer 105 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: would have a pretty good look at it. But O 106 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: fun Wester backup. Okay, I'm gonna skip people would be 107 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: my backup because that's that's my guy and I know 108 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: him personally, and Skip Peep got some hood in him. 109 00:05:57,760 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: So you don't want to mess with a hood cat. 110 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: You don't want it. You don't mess with a Brahma 111 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: bull like coach McCarthy. You don't want to mess with 112 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 1: a hood cat like Coach Pete. I'm just saying those 113 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 1: are those are my two ringers right there. Who's the 114 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: first one out of the ring? Who's the first out? 115 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I don't know. Man, We got coach, 116 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: we playing coaches against each other right now? What that's like? Yeah, 117 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: you're leading me down to the principal's office hallway right now. 118 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to go there. I'm not going. Do 119 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: you guys know that I'm the most glucking person to 120 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: go through the principal see that already, thank you? Uh so, Kyle, 121 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: Kyle is trying to set up scenario where we set 122 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: up two coaches and we put them on rock Pee Island, right, 123 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,840 Speaker 1: and then they got they got at a Risto to 124 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: get off the island. Fight Island. Yes, p fight Island. 125 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: I love that, okay, But I would say Callen Moore 126 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: is the first one out just in my personal and 127 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 1: my personal thought process. Anyway, I just go for it. 128 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: Can I just say real quick, that's for Colombo, for 129 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: for Mark, I mean Isaiah played with him, We've been 130 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: around him. That's it's that's tough news, you know, And 131 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: it's kind of it was strange to hear coming out 132 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: of New York, just because you know, they've got some 133 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: young guys on their offensive line. But they were they're 134 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: playing better. I mean, they've got three wins this year. 135 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: They're doing pretty well. So that was kind of odd 136 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: to see. Um. But I like the way you're thinking, Kyle. 137 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: I like it. I like it, but Rob it is 138 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: not surprising. It's not surprising because I know I know 139 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: Colombo's character and Colombo's he's not no punk, right, And 140 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 1: unfortunately in this league, you deal with a lot of 141 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: grown men, right that are carrying a lot of little 142 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: boy characteristics when it comes to the coaches in this league. 143 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: And I'm not speaking to any to one particular coach, 144 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking about this. It's a reoccurring trait word. You know, 145 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: things that people had whenever when they were younger. If 146 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,280 Speaker 1: they haven't dealt with those things by the time they're adults, 147 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: just because they're adults and something that they're gonna handle 148 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: situations any better. So and you know it, terms of 149 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: people trying to be bullies, in terms of people trying 150 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: to use their authoritative power over people and speak down 151 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: to people and things of that nature, it happens a 152 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: lot in this league. It happens a lot. And sometimes 153 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 1: when you stay in your ground and you don't put 154 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: up with it and you don't allow somebody to punk you, 155 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: a lot of times they just try to get rid 156 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: of you because now you've challenged your authority in a 157 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: in a sort right. So knowing Colombo, when I read 158 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: when I read the article, I can imagine that coach 159 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: probably trying to say something crazy out of sort to Colombo, 160 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: Colombo being like, who the heck are you? You know, 161 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: so it makes sense anything Columbus, no Columbus, no part. 162 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: I can tell you that. Right now we're talking about football, man. 163 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: People are getting into it facilities all over America right now. 164 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: So I know Colombo is a tough guy. And whatever happened, 165 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: I mean, somebody said to put their words together the 166 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: wrong way or the right way, and Colombo responded to it. 167 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 1: So this is this is this is the game of football. 168 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: This is where it happens regard I mean, I don't 169 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:55,199 Speaker 1: know about the psychology of bullying and all of that stuff, 170 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: but you know you'll get hitting the mouth of what 171 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: you say no matter where you are. So kudos to Colombo. 172 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: There are some punks in the league, but Colombo by 173 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: far is not one of those guys. And this is 174 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: not all that and he's going to stand up for himself. So, 175 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: like you said, not surprising, but at the same time, 176 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: it is tough news and we wish him the best 177 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: moving forward. He's going to find a job somewhere. He'll 178 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: be just fine. He'll be in the league for a 179 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: good amount of time because he's Colombo hit him with them. Now, 180 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: with that being said, we did have some offensive line 181 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: news of our own yesterday, Rob for Mike McCarthy. He 182 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: mentioned it in his press conference that cut our cut 183 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: our show short yesterday, but also uh led into practice. 184 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: Brandon Knight was back and practicing yesterday. Is what is 185 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: going on with Brandon Knight and then some of these 186 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 1: other injury updates from yesterday's practice. Yeah, they started the 187 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 1: twenty one day practice window for night. He was on 188 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: injured reserve. I want to say after the Monday night game. 189 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: Was that the Arizona game. I think he got a 190 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 1: niscope right after that, so he's back. He was on 191 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: the fe field. That's encouraging. I don't know if it's 192 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: this week where he could be potentially active, but that's 193 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: good progress. Give you some depth at offensive tackle because 194 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,400 Speaker 1: we've talked about that position a lot. Only two guys 195 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: didn't practice yesterday, Tyler Biadesh, of course, with the hamstring injury, 196 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: that's going to keep him out a little bit. And 197 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: Randy Gregory was sick yesterday, so that's about it. Zack 198 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: Martin was limited, So that's something to kind of keep 199 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: an eye on. But I'm sure I would imagine they're 200 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: trying to manage him and get him to Sunday. He 201 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: was doing some some core to work with the athletic 202 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 1: training staff and just trying to get himself loosened out 203 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: before he practiced. So the best thing I saw in 204 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 1: there was Zeke had a full practice and said told 205 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: us after practice that he felt better this week than 206 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: he did the week at the Steelers game. So for 207 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: a matchup that we're going to get into this today, 208 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,960 Speaker 1: for this week with Minnesota, that's huge. That's huge if 209 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 1: you've got a closer to healthy Zeke. And whenever it 210 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: comes to Zack Martin and kind of a lingering issue there, 211 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: like you said, it's not necessarily anything to be really 212 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: upset about. I mean, you're coming off of a bye week, 213 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: so it might have been something that it was a 214 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 1: right right place, right time, and just not as big 215 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,079 Speaker 1: of an issue as normally it would be. But whenever 216 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: it comes to him being on cords, Isaiah, does that 217 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: worry you at all? From Zach Martin just being the 218 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: cornerstone of that offensive line, it was a corner storm. Okay, 219 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: we brought that back out. No, I'm not at all, man, 220 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: I mean he's gonna be good. I mean it's the 221 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: middle of the season. It's the middle of the season. 222 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: Guys are banged up. Nobody's healthy. I can tell you 223 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: that right now, nobody on this roster is healthy except 224 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: for Razzie Robinson and Bradley and I those are only 225 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: two guys that are probably healthy guys because they haven't 226 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: had touch the field. Other than that, many everybody's dealing 227 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: with something and that's just that's just being real. Um. 228 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: Sometimes it gets out, you know, to the public, and 229 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: things end up on an injury report. Sometimes they don't 230 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: end up on an injury report. But you know, guys 231 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: are gonna be They're gonna overcome things every single day. 232 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: I'm not worried at all. I'm looking forward to seeing 233 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: these guys continue to get healthier as the season progresses, 234 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: because I think I think they are going to can 235 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: just continue to get stronger. Ema. No, you know he 236 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 1: what Isaiah said, It makes sense. I mean, you have 237 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: a veteran guy just you can't give him the day off, 238 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: but still, you know, to give him an opportunity to 239 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: stay in rhythm. These guys have had a bye weekend. 240 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: Like like Isaiah said, no one's healthy at this point 241 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: in the season, So it doesn't concern me about Zach Martin. 242 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,719 Speaker 1: What I want to know is, you know, it is 243 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: night ready to go. If there's a situation that happens 244 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: in this game where we have to maybe plug and 245 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: play him on the right side or on the left side, 246 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: can't he go? So that's important with this offensive line 247 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 1: because we've again we've this has become cliche, the musical chairs, 248 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,559 Speaker 1: and this would be the eleventh combination of guys on 249 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: that offensive line. So you know, the getting guy's healthy, 250 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: it's very important. Don't like to hear be honest, I'm 251 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: really curious about the sickness of Randy Gregory. I'm I'm 252 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm glad that it's not like a hopefu lea not 253 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: COVID related cousin when anytime you see sick, the first 254 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 1: thing you think is, oh my god, does he have COVID? So, 255 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: knowing how how bad we need him this week, as 256 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: far as applying pressure to Kirk Cousins, is that was 257 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: the one thing that raised our brow exactly. Yeah, I mean, 258 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: if he if it was something like that, he'd be 259 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: on the list, he'd be on the reserve list. So 260 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:22,719 Speaker 1: that's yeah, But that's a good You brought up a 261 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 1: good point about night. Like we've talked about this old 262 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: line combination over and over again. Like if he was 263 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: if he were to be healthy and ready to go 264 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: this week and have a good week of practice or 265 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: maybe next week, would you guys like to plug him 266 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: in at one of those tackle spots or are we 267 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: at a point where it's like, let's just keep the 268 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: same five if we possibly can for like two weeks 269 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: in a row. Can we can we just do that? 270 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: Just go back and do it? Is important and this 271 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:48,599 Speaker 1: offensive line, this offensive line needs that, right. But I 272 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: think that Brandon Knight before he was injured was man, 273 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: it's kind of hard to say a bright spot, but 274 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: he was giving you. He was giving you a lot 275 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: more than say some other names. Right now with Irving, 276 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,199 Speaker 1: you see that. I think he's a lot better in 277 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: the run than he is versus the pass, and just comparable. 278 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: I would like to see, you know, these guys kind 279 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: of figure out what we're gonna do with the left tackle, 280 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: but we know that we're having big time issues at 281 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: the right side, So just being able to have him 282 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: for that, I think it's more important. Man, well. And 283 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: one of the things in terms of the left side, 284 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: go for it, Isaiah. Now I was gonna say the 285 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: left side. I mean some of the films that I've 286 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 1: been watching, going back to the last few games, Urban's 287 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: been doing good. He's been playing physical, He's been he's 288 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: been popping dues and knocking dues off. I know in 289 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: a film Roo Another Day, Kyle, show the play where 290 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: Scholtzmith's the block. But if you watch that same play 291 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: where Schultsmith that block, freaking Irvan freaking just destroyed the 292 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: guy right when you it didn't even look like he 293 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: had opportunity to get back into playing. He just knocked 294 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: the do it all the way to the ground. So 295 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: I think he's bringing some physicality to it. But yeah, 296 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: there last you mentioned, Kyle, that right side we need 297 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: some hell well. And what Mike McCarthy said whenever he 298 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: was asked about best five, which is kind of something 299 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: we've talked about over the course of the season, but 300 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: whenever he was asked about it, he said, it's not 301 00:15:03,720 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: fantasy football. You can't just mix and match and just 302 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: throw guys out there and into certain positions. But the 303 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: thing is is when Brandon Knight comes back. You've got 304 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: two swing tackles available. You got Cam Irving and you've 305 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: got Brandon Knight. And Brandon Knight and Cam Irving I've 306 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: each played better than what Terren steel has done on 307 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: the right tackle spot. So my question to you guys is, 308 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: and heck, he'll start us off here Cam Irving at 309 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: left tackle or right tackle, and then of course Brandon 310 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: Knight would fill in that other hole. Are you more 311 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: comfortable with that than what you're working with right now? Yeah, 312 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm more comfortable with Tyrn Smith, but I want well, 313 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: that's not unfortunately, I think Night right, right, I know right, 314 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: I'm just swishing here. I would say Night at the left. 315 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: I just felt like Knight gave us a lot more 316 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: before his injury. But in this situation, the continuity, if 317 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: these guys are starting to play together, I think the 318 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: Steelers game they played a lot better together. But my 319 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: question is who's gonna be the quarterback? Because who's the 320 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: quarterback is really gonna help you say, you know, look, 321 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: this guy is gonna be a better fit in this 322 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: situation because offensively, the last game that we saw against 323 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: the Steelers, we had a lot more movement in our offense. 324 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 1: So look, keeping these same guys together it's very important. 325 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: But I want to know who's gonna be the quarterback? Kyle, 326 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: It's gonna be Andy Dalton. Oh God, I mean please, 327 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: that's that's Please know what that's That's what the decision is. 328 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: It's Andy Dalton, that's the quarterback. I mean, that's a 329 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: that's a proven thing. But why why are you saying? 330 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: Please know with Andy Dalton. We've had this conversation I 331 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 1: feel like six times about Garrett Gilbert or Andy Dalton, 332 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: but you're that adamant against Andy Dalton. Hex Ready, Look man, Okay, 333 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 1: so we this is gonna be the This is gonna 334 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: be the seventh time that we argued it. Right, So yes, 335 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: if we're gonna go with based off of percentage and 336 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 1: just look looking at the performance we've already said the 337 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: energy and the offense efficiency seemed to be moving a 338 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: lot better with Garret Gilbert. The last time I saw 339 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton against a defense that was bringing any pressure, 340 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,400 Speaker 1: I say, Arizona or Washington football team, it didn't look 341 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: good for him. And Pittsburgh and the defense that they had, 342 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: I mean they were applying pressure for sure, and Garret 343 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: Gilbert did a very nice job of getting out of 344 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: the pocket. I mean, we've been on killing Moore about 345 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: his offensive strategy over the last just play calling over 346 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: the last couple of games. I thought he did a 347 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: better job even though the offense has you know, the 348 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 1: motions and shifts and things like that he hadn't been 349 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: able to do obviously, because he's had a rookie quarterback 350 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: and a guy that hadn't played in a while. But 351 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,159 Speaker 1: I think you see a guy that's getting better if 352 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: the offense is gonna move more efficiently with Andy Dalton, 353 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: and you're just gonna have to show me because I don't. 354 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: I didn't see it. He hadn't been able to do it. 355 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: And I think g Wagon gave you the best shot. 356 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: Oh oh that's me. Um, I like I like, I 357 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: like g Wagon, right, I like double G all right, 358 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 1: G two whatever you want to call him, right, Uh. 359 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: He he did have the energy who was successful. And 360 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 1: I already mentioned that you know this week that I 361 00:18:17,400 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: think that that would be the decision if I was 362 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: making it, to go with him, because just simply off 363 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: a momentum. However, Um, I encourage you, and I encourage 364 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: some other people and everybody else that has questions regarding 365 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton to go back and watch the film room 366 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:33,160 Speaker 1: session from this week, because we addressed at least two 367 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: of the six sacks that he experienced in one of 368 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 1: his most recent games, and a lot of that stuff 369 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: was not just falling on him. Now, don't get me wrong, 370 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of stuff. He still has to do 371 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: a lot better. But when it came down to protections, 372 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: guys just weren't doing their jobs. They were not doing 373 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: their assignments and and unfortunately, it looks bad upon just 374 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: a quarterback that when those things happen, because it looks 375 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: like he's holding the ball, looks like he's not getting 376 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands. You know, he's not 377 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,440 Speaker 1: making good throws all that kind of stuff. So I'm 378 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: not I'm not taking I'm not taking it shoulders and 379 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: saying that he didn't he needed that. He doesn't need 380 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: to play better. He definitely does, but there's a lot 381 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: of other elements that were going into that. He did 382 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,120 Speaker 1: not have the same offensive line. So we're gonna see, 383 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 1: We're gonna see. I don't I don't disagree with you wholeheartedly, 384 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: but we're gonna we're gonna see what it looks like 385 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: this weekend. Um, yeah, let's see what it looks like. 386 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: Let's let's say this, all right. So Mike Zimmer was 387 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: on the staff at Cincinnati, I believe for twenty eleven 388 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: to twenty fourteen. Right, he knows Andy Dalton like the 389 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: back of his hand. The last time Mike Zimmer saw 390 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton, he beat him like thirty nine to six 391 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: or something like that, where Andy Dalton had a twenty 392 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: six percent QBR. All right, Mike Zimmer, that's the He 393 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: is going to love seeing Andy Dalton at quarterback because 394 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: he knows the kind of pressure that he can put 395 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: on Andy. I think the one thing that we have 396 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: at our disposal is the unknown with Garrey Gilberto that 397 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: one game that we've seen him uh be successful in 398 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 1: this offense. Man. That's all I'm I'm weighing this on. 399 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: This is the fact that we have history with Mike 400 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: Zimmer and Andy Dalton. So do with it. What's your 401 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: mother points? Llot point, ballot point, looking forward to the game. 402 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: That's a very good point. Two thousand, two thousand and 403 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: eight to twenty thirteen was when Zimmer was the defensive 404 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: coordinator with Cincinnati, And like you said, the last time 405 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: that they had played was back in twenty seventeen. That's 406 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: actually the only time that those two had played where 407 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: Mike Zimmer was the head coach, Andy Dalton was the quarterback. 408 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: Zimmer won that battle thirty four to seven. Was that 409 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: final score. Andy Dalton in that game went eleven of 410 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: twenty two for one hundred and thirteen yards, no touchdowns, 411 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: and an interception. In that game, his QB rating was 412 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: twenty three seven point three and he was sacked three 413 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: times from seven? Did he have aj Green? Man? Now, 414 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: you can't roll out so all the numbers you got, 415 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 1: Aj Green was on the field. Yes, he had cj Uzma, Giovanni, Bernard, 416 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,880 Speaker 1: AJ Green, Tyler Croft, Brandon LaFell had had his full 417 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: arsenal of guys and he got blanked for seven points 418 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: in a couple of picks. Yeah, So I'm just like, 419 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 1: I know Double G played good. I know he did, 420 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: and I know he looked like Joe Montana compared to 421 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: what we saw with the Nucci trying to play his 422 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,479 Speaker 1: first start. But are we really just wiping away one 423 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,439 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty four's career starts for a guy I mean, 424 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: do we just feel it just feel like he can't 425 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,719 Speaker 1: play anymore. Like I just I know it didn't look 426 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,960 Speaker 1: it against Arizona. But I'm kind of with Isaiah on 427 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: this one, Like I'm willing to wipe away that disaster 428 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,920 Speaker 1: offensively against Arizona with the turnovers and the fumbles and 429 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: the lack of protection. And then you played Washington without 430 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: Zack Martin against five first round picks on the Washington front, 431 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: and if they don't clean it up on Thanksgiving, it'll 432 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 1: be the same story. But I just think it just 433 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: wasn't a good situation for Andy. Not that it's all 434 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: on everybody else, but you know, if I've got to 435 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: pick one guy to go win a game, I'm gonna 436 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: go with the more experienced guy. But like Isaiah said, 437 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,959 Speaker 1: we'll see, I mean, we'll see how it goes. At 438 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: least they feel like they've got a solid number two 439 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: at this point filling in behind him. That's a good thing. 440 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a good problem to have because, like 441 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: we talked about previously, we didn't know what was going 442 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: on going into the game against Pittsburgh. Now we know 443 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: what we have from all three even maybe four perspectives 444 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: of a quarterback if we really needed to come down 445 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: to that, we know what we're dealing with, but it's 446 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: a debate that'll ray John until after the Vikings game 447 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: this week. We'll have the short week to talk about 448 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: it next week, So maybe not as much Garrett Gilbert v. 449 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 1: Dandy Dalton talk as we had this week in last week, 450 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: but still gonna be something we're gonna talk about when 451 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: we come back though. Here on talking Cowboys, we got 452 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: to continue breaking down this offense facing this Minnesota defense. 453 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: What does Minnesota bring that the Cowboys have already seen 454 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: the last three weeks. We'll tell you when we come 455 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: back right after this. 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Talking Cowboys back here on Talking Cowboys. 492 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 1: It's the second segment here from the s WBC Mortgage Studios. 493 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: Glad you're with us, of course, as always, whether you're 494 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: watching from home or cheering in the stands with lenses, 495 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: you'll see every exciting playbook and appointment at your local 496 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: esselor experts and find the perfect essel or Lenz for you. 497 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: See More, Do More Or almost sounds like a like 498 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: a makeup commercial at the end. I kind of like it. 499 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: Like that, it's got that catchy ring to it. The 500 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,920 Speaker 1: Seymour Do More or I like it every week and 501 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: Isaiah likes it too because he echoes it every single 502 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 1: time on camera. He doesn't do it audibly. For those 503 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: of you listening, on iTunes unfortunately. But anyways, heck Ma 504 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: Harrison and Rob Phillips I stand back up Kyle Yeoman's 505 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: and today, of course, being Thursday, we're breaking down the 506 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys offense versus the opponent defense, and of course the 507 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: opponent this week is the Minnesota Vikings. And guys, I 508 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: want to ask this question because last Sweet Minnesota on 509 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,959 Speaker 1: Monday Night football held Chicago to forty six yards total rushing, 510 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: really kind of blank them all together. I mean, Chicago 511 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: didn't actually hit two hundred yards in that football game 512 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: and only had a couple of field goals to show 513 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: for it. However, this is a defense that doesn't scare 514 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: me as much watching it on film. Looking at the stats, 515 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: this defense doesn't scared me nearly as much as what Washington, 516 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: Philly and even Pittsburgh. Of course, Pittsburgh ad showed you defensively, 517 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: just based off of the front seven. But am I 518 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: wrong in thinking that this might be the weakest front 519 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: seven the Cowboys have seen, maybe since Week five of 520 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: the season when we played the Giants. Isaiah No, I 521 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: think you're right in saying that. The thing about Minnesota 522 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: and Minnesota's being consistent for a very long time, all 523 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: the way back to when I play this is a 524 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,879 Speaker 1: too high team. They want to play too high, and 525 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: they've always entrusted in their front seven. They've always had 526 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: solid linebackers and they still do now. They've always had 527 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: sign of linebackers, but they always relied heavily under defensive 528 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: alignment to apply pressure because they don't want to go 529 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: single high. They don't want to come up and play 530 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 1: you man to man. They want to sit back, have 531 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: a two shell over the top and make you work 532 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: your way down the field and let them apply pressure 533 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: with their front four and the Unfortunately, this front four 534 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 1: is just not applying that pressure. Like I said, if 535 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: you get up to the second level, you got to 536 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: do a big Kendricks and company. But you're absolutely correct 537 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: in saying that this D line does not have the 538 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,399 Speaker 1: same presence, nor are they as much of a threat 539 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 1: as the D lines we faced so far this year. Rob. Yeah, No, 540 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: I agree. I agree. I think when you watch them 541 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: play against Chicago, as they mentioned, the too high, they 542 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 1: did play too deep, and a lot of that is 543 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: because they're they're young. They're young, they're they're missing some 544 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 1: key eyes on defense this year. They don't have the 545 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 1: Kneil Hunter up front. No, I don't think they have 546 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: a bar and so, and they've got a couple of 547 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: rookie corners back there. And I think Dancer didn't play 548 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: in that game, so he was back to practice this week. 549 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: So with young corners, you're trying to protect them and 550 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: like Asaiah said, you know, you know, don't give anything 551 00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: away deep make them drive the field. That does you 552 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,120 Speaker 1: would think open up some running opportunities for the Cowboys, 553 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: you know, when you're not if Zeke's not facing those 554 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: those boxes with seven eight man fronts all the time, 555 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: maybe there's an opportunity to do that. Now, Maybe maybe 556 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: Zim changes it up because he knows, with you know, 557 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: compromised up front, they've got to be able to run 558 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: the football. Dallas does to have success. But I think 559 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: matchup wise, there could be some opportunities. And hey, the 560 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys have struggled offensively, but I think they've topped you know, 561 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: I think like one hundred and thirty yards the last 562 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: couple of games. Maybe they can build on that. I 563 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: think for me, it's it's gonna be the Mike Zimmer, 564 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Cowboy great defensive coordinator. He does a really 565 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: good job of dalling it up for his defense, and 566 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: these guys play really well together. I mean, when Kyle 567 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: you say you look at the tape and nothing about 568 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 1: them scares you, then I'll go with that. But at 569 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: the same time, they still have Harrison Smith and guys 570 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: like Hendricks and Wilson. They look, they're going to present 571 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: a problem defensively as far as the way that they 572 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 1: pressure the line of scrimmage. They know that their best 573 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: shot is stopping the Cowboys is obviously making sure that 574 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: Zeke doesn't get going early, so that whole loading up 575 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: the box that is what Zimmer is definitely gonna do 576 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: to alleviate any of that. So, look, I'm looking at 577 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: this scheme and just realizing that for the Dallas Cowboys offense, 578 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to get some of your playmakers involved. 579 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I want to see Amari Cooper actually make 580 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: a play, stretch the field, do something with the secondary 581 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: that is decimated well by injuries, and they have rookie guys. 582 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 1: So the only way that we have any success is 583 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: that you know, one Zeke brings his hard hat and 584 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: collects those really tough yards that you know the Vikings 585 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: are going to be against him on but also if 586 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton is the quarterback, well he is the quarterback 587 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: that he gets the ball out of it his hand 588 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: quickly and get it to a playmakers so that they 589 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: could do something. I mean, this offense, our receiver has 590 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: just hadn't been given us much and it's been because 591 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: they hadn't had the quarterback there to supply it or 592 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: get those yards helped them get that yard yards. So 593 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: we have to get this offense going. We hadn't seen 594 00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 1: the last couple of games, so that change is going 595 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: to be welcome. And whenever it comes to the decimated secondary, 596 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: and you guys are mentioning these rookies, Jeff Gladdene, a 597 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: TCU product, actually is one of the starting corners. The 598 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 1: other one who's been dealing with a concussion is Cameron Danceler, 599 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: the Mississippi State corner that we saw at the Senior 600 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,760 Speaker 1: Bowl last year. Pretty good little corner, but still not 601 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: anybody that should be starting as a rookie. I was 602 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: high on I did like Cameron Danceler, but I still 603 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: didn't think he would be a starter as a rookie. Well, 604 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: he's adding to step in and do that because they've 605 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: been just absolutely torn apart by injuries whenever it comes 606 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: to the secondary. Holton Hill, Mark Fields, Mike Hughes, Miles Dorn, 607 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: all of those guys have been out and missed significant 608 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: time for this secondary. It's kind of like what the 609 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: Cowboys are dealing with on the offensive line where the 610 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings are dealing with in the secondary. They're having 611 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: to do a musical chairs sort of thing back there 612 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: to deal with it. But that brings this question to me, 613 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: is this the chance that we finally get to see 614 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton with minimal pressure coming up against an offensive 615 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: line that has a wee bit of continuity to attack 616 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: a week secondary with the receivers that we've been waiting for. 617 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 1: Is this finally the opportunity we get to see Dalton 618 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: kind of blossom into the quarterback that we had originally 619 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 1: thought he could be as a backup. Well, it's gonna 620 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:47,720 Speaker 1: say yes. I don't think it's gonna be that type 621 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: of game. I think Andy Dalton's going to be in 622 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: a game management type of scenario. I'm kind of like 623 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: a like a old school Russell Wilson just don't mess 624 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: up type of scenario. I really think this is the 625 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: game that Zeke comes out and he's into Zeke. I 626 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: think everyth think he probably gets around one hundred and 627 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: thirty yards on the ground this game. And you know, 628 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: and Anye Dalton's gonna be facing too high, probably the 629 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: second half of face single high. He might be able 630 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,239 Speaker 1: to start getting some things down to field a little bit, 631 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: but this is gonna be a mid short, short, the 632 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: mid range game for Anye Daldon. He's just gonna have 633 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: to be precise, and I think he'll have the time 634 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: he needs to throw the ball. So yes, to answer 635 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: your question, we should see the original Any Dalton this game, 636 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 1: but we won't. But he should not be throwing a 637 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: ball forty times. Yeah, I think the hope is, you know, 638 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,800 Speaker 1: you can establish the run and then if you can 639 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: get them out of some of that that looks where 640 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: they're they're playing their safeties, deep move with guys up, 641 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: because there are to your point, Kyle, there are some 642 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: matchups on the outside that you've got to feel good about. 643 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: I think if you can get him the ball, but 644 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: you mentioned protection. Look, the Viking sin still get pressure. 645 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 1: I think they rely a lot on their front floor 646 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: to just go get the quarterback. But they'll blitz their linebackers. 647 00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: You know, Eric Wilson is really doing damage for them 648 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: as a blitzer with pressure in Saxon affecting the quarterbacks. 649 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: So you know, I you know they're they're lying and 650 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: maybe isn't what it's been, but I think they're still 651 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: capable of getting pressure on Andy Dalton. And I just 652 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: think that's the scheme going into every week, that you 653 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: try and establish the run and set up everything after that, 654 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: and yes, be a game manager, Andy Dalton, but that's 655 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: all good until you're down about three, you know, three 656 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,480 Speaker 1: touchdowns and then you have to throw the ball. So 657 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: that's I guess I'm basing this off of our past 658 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 1: history as a team with us always being playing from behind. 659 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: So obviously a lot of things have to go good 660 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys to actually play the kind of 661 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: football that we know is run the ball, then throw 662 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 1: and he can facilitate and not put this defense or 663 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: put himself in a situation where he's throwing the ball 664 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 1: forty times this game. But that's been what we do. 665 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: We throw the ball forty times a game. They just 666 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,000 Speaker 1: need to hit some big plays here and there. Yeah, 667 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: they just haven't had that and Gilbert finally gave him 668 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of that the touchdown to CD, And 669 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: that's I think that's why I guess I just feel 670 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 1: better about Andy, just because if he's got the protection, 671 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: I feel better about him. His rapport with the receivers, 672 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,320 Speaker 1: getting a couple of plays, you know, thirty forty yards 673 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 1: down the field where now you're in scoring position. Let 674 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 1: me ask you this, Yeah, let me ask you this. 675 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: So how short of a lease do you have on 676 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 1: Andy Thalton? Right? So if this first half is just abysmal, 677 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 1: is no good? Do you then put Gilbert in the game? 678 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: Are you saying, no, matter what, we ride to die 679 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: all the way through Islam? Is Andy's healthy? Yeah? I would? 680 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: I would. I mean, look, if it's not going good, 681 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,439 Speaker 1: I think based on what you've seen from Gilbert, you could, 682 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: you know, you could take a look at him again. 683 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: Uh what I think they would do? It just sounds 684 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: like they're riding with fourteen just you know, so we'll 685 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: see m riding with fourteen. So it's Rob pet Rob 686 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 1: Pete right for life? Team? Are ask you agree there? 687 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: Your friend ride together and die together? Yes? Double H 688 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: on his own? Uh, he's on his own island over here, 689 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: it's it's double H Island at this point. Whenever it's 690 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 1: the yacht, it's the yacht there. Yeah, the yacht for 691 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: three to the double G. Okay, when we come back, 692 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,000 Speaker 1: you're on talking Cowboys. We have some unfinished business in 693 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:28,760 Speaker 1: terms of talking about the Cowboys defense versus this Minnesota offense. 694 00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: We'll finish the show with that and get you ready 695 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: for say it with your chest Friday when we come back. 696 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: Right after this, we're backing the tasty treat that's sweeping 697 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: airwaves and taste buds. It's new Doctor Pepper and creep Soda. 698 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen, Doctor cream Soda. Is he a 699 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: new combone. That's music to my ears? Okay, doctor time, 700 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: music to my ears and mouths. New Doctor Pepper and 701 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: cream Soda a delis. 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To talk in Cowboys Final segment 728 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: here of the Thursday edition of Talking Cowboys and whether 729 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 1: you're listening to music while you work out, watching highlights, 730 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,320 Speaker 1: or even trading Fantasy draft players like we normally do 731 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 1: on a Thursday. Bows Quiet Comfort Earbuds let you experience 732 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 1: audio in a whole new way. Bows Quiet Comfort Earbuds 733 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 1: are the official earbuds of the Dallas Cowboys. What was 734 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:03,239 Speaker 1: that head? Oh? I can hear you? Just fine? This 735 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,640 Speaker 1: is great, man. You're coming through. Oh you're showing off 736 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,200 Speaker 1: the bo Okay, okay, okay, you can hear me just 737 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: loud and clear. It sounds great. Uh So, like I 738 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: mentioned a moment ago, heading into the commercial break, we 739 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 1: do have some unfinished business in terms of talking about 740 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: the matchups that are on the table. And yesterday I 741 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: got a nice little scary from Isaiah and a scary 742 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,800 Speaker 1: scary from mister rob Pe whenever it came to Justin 743 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: Jefferson and Adam Feeling and the weapons outside. But I 744 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 1: want to I want to ask you this question, who 745 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,399 Speaker 1: is going to cover who in this regard? Because Cheeto's back, 746 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 1: You've got Anthony Brown, of course, you've got Cheeto Woozier 747 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,640 Speaker 1: in the slot. Or excuse me Jordan Lewis in the slot, 748 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,799 Speaker 1: but ultimately there's not going to be enough to cover 749 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: either one of these guys efficiently. Isaiah, how did the 750 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: Cowboys come back this duo like we've seen already this 751 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 1: season that could potentially have a lot of success zone 752 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: coverage and communication. Don't try to play these guys, man. 753 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: We've tried that too many times this year by facing 754 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: Um some of some of the best receivers that this 755 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: league has to offer, and it didn't work in our favor. 756 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 1: I don't think hardly at all. And maybe a sept 757 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: For Atlanta game because Julio was hurt and he wasn't himself, 758 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:24,520 Speaker 1: but UM play zone defense. Hopefully coach calls Coach Ryan 759 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 1: calls that, and uh and yeah, yeah, that's it. Just 760 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: just just don't put these guys on the island, true, Please, 761 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: don't put these guys on the island. It's just not 762 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 1: a smart move. How quickly to you think we see 763 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 1: these guys on an island. It's gonna happen. I mean, 764 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: you can't go a whole game just playing his own 765 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: so it's gonna I mean, you're gonna see these guys 766 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 1: on the island at some point in time. You just 767 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,400 Speaker 1: hope that you know, again your communications on point. Hopefully 768 00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: they played with good technique. Hopefully they get their hands 769 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: on somebody. It's one thing to play man coverage and 770 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 1: you try to shadow somebody at the line of scrimmage. 771 00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,560 Speaker 1: That where that's where we've really failed this year is 772 00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: in man coverage, playing at the line, trying to shadow somebody. 773 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, they finally make a decision, they 774 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 1: go a certain direction, and then they just gas on 775 00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: us and run by us for a big play. You know, 776 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: if you're gonna get up there and play man play 777 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 1: some old school man, put your hands on somebody, and 778 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,719 Speaker 1: and you know it's if you're gonna get burnt, get 779 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: burnt that way. Don't get burnt by just trying to, 780 00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: you know, try to keep up with somebody's feet. Yeah, 781 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,919 Speaker 1: everybody's gonna be ready because, um, you know, they moved 782 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,320 Speaker 1: some guys around. They moved Jefferson in the slot some 783 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, to y'all's point, like if they 784 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: when they play off at some time off man or zone, 785 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,719 Speaker 1: they can find those holes and they can beat you. 786 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,800 Speaker 1: I thought the biggest play in the game against Chicago 787 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 1: was fifty four yards by justin Jefferson just finding a hole. 788 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: It was kind of seedee lamb, like where catch him 789 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: on the run and go and he can do that. 790 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: So uh. And the other thing too about communication that 791 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: Isaiah mentioned, they'll do those bunch sets. They'll line guys 792 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: up together on one side and and and make you 793 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: communicate and decide who's taking who basically so um and 794 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 1: kind of those kind of pick type thing. So they 795 00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: do it. They do a lot of short, short, short splits. 796 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: With Jefferson especially, he runs a lot of a lot 797 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,480 Speaker 1: of corner routes, a lot of corner routes, a lot 798 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:14,399 Speaker 1: of speed outs, and those present problems because when you're 799 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: when you're when he's so tight down to towards towards 800 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: the lineman. And as a as a secondary guy, as 801 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: a defensive back, you're gonna sit outside a little bit 802 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:26,600 Speaker 1: typically right because you're protecting the majority of the field. 803 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: But what ends up happening is he runs a stem 804 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 1: towards your outside shoulder, and by the time he comes 805 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,239 Speaker 1: out of that break, if the balls on time, it's 806 00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: literally a player that you really can't defend. You could 807 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 1: take your shot at it by trying to undercut it 808 00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: and try to get an interception. But if you don't, 809 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,400 Speaker 1: if you miss, then all of a sudden he's catching 810 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: the ball and he has the whole sideline. So he runs. 811 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: Pay attention to that those short splits, and pay attention 812 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: to him running those corner routes and those speed outs. 813 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: It's it's a problem. He does a good job of 814 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: finding his own and he's lanky. He gets upon you quick. 815 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 1: He doesn't look like he's running fast. He has the 816 00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,080 Speaker 1: long freaking Dawsome legs from Street Fighter, and he just, 817 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 1: you know, just runs and he just gets upart you 818 00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,320 Speaker 1: really quick. That It's just it's kind of creepy. The 819 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,800 Speaker 1: second Street Fight the reference of the season. I love it. 820 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 1: There it is. Yes, I haven't m I could just say, man, 821 00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: I haven't been afraid of a Minnesota Vikings rookie receiver 822 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:22,400 Speaker 1: since Brandy Moss and Jefferson, since that Jefferson presents a problem. 823 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:25,680 Speaker 1: But also I would like to think that the veterans 824 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,279 Speaker 1: that we have on our team and the secondary will 825 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: be able to mitigate a lot of that worry and 826 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 1: play to their strength. Cheeto, for me, is a guy 827 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 1: that always does a really good job of using the 828 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: boundary as an extra defender. So that play that you're 829 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: talking about undercutting that that I believe it's that the 830 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: fade that they like Kirk Cousins like to throw to Jefferson, 831 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: that he uses that to his advantage. These guys can't 832 00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: tip their hand and goes on the whole game. They're 833 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: gonna have to play some man, this is a part 834 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: of the part of defense, and if you play zone 835 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,960 Speaker 1: that they will eat that apart. I mean, I don't 836 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: like Kirk Cousins, but man, you know you that would 837 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,440 Speaker 1: be checkers to his chest as an offense. So, you know, 838 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: the Cowboys defense, I believe Anthony ab is a guy 839 00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:12,400 Speaker 1: that I feel comfortable being by himself on Feeling or 840 00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: on Jefferson. I just feel like that part of their 841 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,359 Speaker 1: what they do and just have to, you know, play 842 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,400 Speaker 1: to their strengths as defenders. But it's all going to 843 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:22,879 Speaker 1: be surrounding around the kind of pressure that we get. 844 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: You know, the interview yesterday with Tank Lawrence and they 845 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: asked him about the difference between the comparison between the 846 00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: Kevin Safanski Cleveland Brown's offense and this offense. He's like, look, man, 847 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: we realize that these guys are very similar, but we 848 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,480 Speaker 1: are a different defense than where we were when we 849 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: played these guys. We were not being able. We weren't 850 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: able to play fast and free because we didn't realize 851 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: what the defense, what defensive coordinator was asking for us 852 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 1: and from us. And these guys feel a lot comfortable 853 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,399 Speaker 1: going into this week. So look, man, I just feel 854 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 1: as though the defense plays together just the same as 855 00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:58,320 Speaker 1: the Vikings defense has been doing. We should have some 856 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:02,920 Speaker 1: success on Sunday. How much of a role is Kyle 857 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:06,120 Speaker 1: Rudolph gonna play in this game? They called him all 858 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,440 Speaker 1: reliable on the on the Monday night football broadcast, and 859 00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: I thought that was the best way to put it, 860 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,040 Speaker 1: because he's been around for ten years and he continues 861 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,400 Speaker 1: to do the same thing. Plus Isaiah, we looked at 862 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 1: it in the film room. I mean, he's a fantastic 863 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: blocker still even at this point in his career, but 864 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: he's also a receiving threat. How big of an impact 865 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: does he play? Real quickly here before we wrap things up. 866 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: He plays he's a huge man. I mean he looks 867 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,799 Speaker 1: like it looks like Christoph from Frozen on there. He's 868 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:39,800 Speaker 1: a big bike and if anybody, if anybody, if anybody 869 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: remember what a bike you should look like. It's him. 870 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 1: He's a large human and he's gonna block. He's gonna 871 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: consume you in the Rand game, he's gonna he's gonna 872 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 1: he's gonna box you out if he runs a route. 873 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,759 Speaker 1: So he's he's a problem man, and they're definitely gonna 874 00:44:54,840 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: use him. Street Fighter Frozen all in the span of 875 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: two minutes. I love it. It's accurate and it's accurate. 876 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 1: It is accurate. That's the best part about it. It's 877 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: completely accurate. Got Christoph Rudolph over here. I mean his 878 00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,800 Speaker 1: name is literally Rudolf and Christoph d a reindeer, So 879 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:18,959 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it works. It completely works. That's 880 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 1: that's impressive. Isaiah rob Big big Impactrol Cook from Kyle 881 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,799 Speaker 1: Rudolph Christolf is good as a blocker, man. You guys 882 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: showed it in the film room on those Zone runs. 883 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,040 Speaker 1: He can, he can, he can move guys out of 884 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 1: the way. So watch out for Christolf. I'm no good 885 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:42,439 Speaker 1: right now, Kyle, Where do you come up with this stuff? Man? 886 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 1: Do you have a no card in front of you? 887 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: With this? What is that? Man? That's that's crazy. He 888 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: goes through and he looks he goes through and looks 889 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,759 Speaker 1: at the headshots of all these players. He goes, that's Christoffs. 890 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 1: That's that's what that one is. Oh Man, that just 891 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 1: comes to me. Man, that's That's the best way I 892 00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: could have possibly found a way in this show. And 893 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: and and send us in to say it with your 894 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,439 Speaker 1: chess Friday. I want to thank everybody for sticking around 895 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,839 Speaker 1: here over the last forty five minutes. For all those 896 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 1: that are on here, go ahead and subscribe, like follow, 897 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,520 Speaker 1: do everything you need to follow each of these guys 898 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: on social media as well. But for today, for Chris 899 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,440 Speaker 1: Beam in the back, for heck My Harrison, for Rob Beam, 900 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,680 Speaker 1: for Isaiah stand Back, I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long 901 00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: from the SWBC Mortgage Studios. We'll see you tomorrow. I'm 902 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 1: talking Cowboys. This has been a production of Dallas Cowboys 903 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.