1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Third hour of Clay and Buck kicks off. Now we 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: are keeping an eye out for when the President is 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: going to address the nation on his thinking on Iran. 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: This is a big deal for a whole range of reasons. 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: We've been talking to you about our sympathy and heart 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: and hopes go out to the Iranian people who are 7 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: taking substantial risks for their freedom. This is a country 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: that has a very rich and very long history as 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: a culture and as a people that has unfortunately been 10 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: enslaved by a theocracy, a theocracy of revolutionary autocrats who 11 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: have been in charge for almost fifty years, and they've 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:50,840 Speaker 1: done an amazing job of e miserating ninety million people 13 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: and making a whole lot of problems for the rest 14 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: of the world too. Isn't this isn't just a Iranian problem. 15 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: The Mullahs are a problem for were so many of 16 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 1: the countries in the region and all over the world, 17 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: because Iran is the primary state sponsor of terror as 18 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: we know. And here is President Trump. He's he's getting 19 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: closer and closer I think, to action on this issue. 20 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: And here he is. This has cut twenty speaking about 21 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: how Iran better not mess around than find out by 22 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: executing huge numbers of protesters. But we'll see play twenty. 23 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: The endgame is to win. 24 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: I like winning. 25 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 1: How do you define it in Iran? 26 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 4: Well, let's define it in Venezuela. Let's define it with 27 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 4: al bag Daddy. He was wiped out. Let's define it 28 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 4: with Solomoni. And let's define it in Iran where he 29 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,279 Speaker 4: wiped out. There iren hopefully a threat in a period 30 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 4: of about fifteen minutes. 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 3: What's see he two's. 32 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 4: Got there and that was a complete obliteration, as it 33 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 4: turns out, which is what I said initially. Then some 34 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 4: question and they said, you know, Trump was right, So 35 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 4: we've been right about everything. We don't want to see 36 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 4: what's happening in Iran happened, and you know, if they 37 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 4: want to have protest, that's one thing. When they start 38 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 4: killing thousands of people. And now you're telling me about hanging, 39 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 4: We'll see how that works out for them. It's not 40 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:14,399 Speaker 4: gonna work out good. 41 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 3: Clay. 42 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: Let's also hear Trump point is very similar. He's drawing 43 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: lines in the sands, and I don't think they want 44 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: to see what happens with the cross. And this is 45 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: cut five. Trump telling the Iranian regime Watch yourself. 46 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 5: Uh huh, but. 47 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 1: It will retaliate the instance of US. 48 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 3: Strikes against US assets in the Middle East. 49 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: What do you say to US service members about why 50 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: it's worth the. 51 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 6: Risks you're being on? 52 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 4: A Ron said that the last time I blow him 53 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 4: up with the nuclear capability, which. 54 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,239 Speaker 3: They don't have any longer. 55 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 4: So Aron said that the last time they better. 56 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: Behaved, they better behave clay. They're not behaving, So now 57 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: let's see what happens. 58 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, look, and the president may be poised to speak 59 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 6: on It is after ten o'clock in Iran right now. 60 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 6: For people out there who wonder what the time situation is. 61 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 6: The biggest challenge buck is Elon must to his credit, 62 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 6: has unleashed Starlink, which has allowed some Iranians to get online, 63 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:23,239 Speaker 6: and now the Iranian government has decided to sabotage starlink 64 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 6: working in their country as well. I can't think of 65 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 6: very many times when we basically had almost no ability 66 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 6: to see what's going on in a country in real time. 67 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 6: In other words, for all of the criticisms of Israel 68 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 6: and all the criticisms about what might happen in Gaza, 69 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 6: the internet was never. 70 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 5: Shut off there. 71 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 6: Communication was always possible, and so there's always a lot 72 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 6: of media coverage and we see what's happening. We really 73 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 6: don't know much of what's going on in Iran right now, 74 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 6: and so one aspect of this has been trying to 75 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 6: figure out how to potentially allow the Iranian people to communicate. 76 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 6: Here's the other thing, buck, how do we make the 77 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 6: people of Iran aware that the president of the United 78 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 6: States supports them and supports their protest because the Iranian 79 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 6: government has curtailed the ability to get information in there. 80 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 6: You know, back in the day, this was how you 81 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 6: would win an information warfare. Do you remember what you 82 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 6: would do. You would fly planes over and you would 83 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 6: just drop pamphlets and it would say in their language, 84 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 6: I think far see if I'm not mistaken. Hey, here 85 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 6: is President Trump supports your ability to protest. He wants 86 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 6: people to have basic human rights. He wants you to 87 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 6: have freedoms. He wants Iran to look like it did 88 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 6: in the nineteen seventies before the Ayatola came into power. 89 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 6: And so you would actually drop pamphlets and people would 90 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 6: go out and they pick them up and they'd be 91 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 6: able to read what the American president or what the 92 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 6: perspective was it's so hard to get that information. Now 93 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 6: it should, in theory be way easier to communicate, But 94 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 6: Iran has the ability to turn off every thing it's 95 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 6: supposedly in terms of being able to communicate there. And 96 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 6: I think it's striking propaganda on television. 97 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: I think a strike is coming, Clay, this is starting. 98 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: It's I'm just gonna point something out. This is gonna 99 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: be a little crazy, but this is true. The last 100 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: time there was a major strike on Iran, we were 101 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: in the Oval Office with the president. You were just 102 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: in the Oval Office with the President. And there may 103 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: be another major strike on Iran. The only that would 104 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: be the only two days I can think of where 105 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: we have done anything on this scale in our lifetime. 106 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that there's a cause and effect 107 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: to your Clay, but I am saying some people might 108 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: ask some questions. 109 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 6: Well, you and I don't know, do we say this 110 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 6: on the air. I'll say it on the air now. 111 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 6: I can't remember if we set it back. We talked 112 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,160 Speaker 6: about it off the air, you and I. I feel 113 00:05:56,200 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 6: like in some ways the White House press team was 114 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 6: running around taking pictures of you and me in the 115 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 6: Oval Office with the President like crazy, and they immediately 116 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 6: blasted it out right before the attacks happened. And you 117 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 6: know that they monitor what the president is doing on 118 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 6: all of these intelligence agencies and everything else. And I 119 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 6: guarantee you they were like, ah, he's just meeting with 120 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 6: a couple of radio guys. There's nothing happening today, right, 121 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 6: White House photographer running around like crazy taking photos in 122 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 6: the Oval Office, just like when you and I were 123 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 6: in there. Now, I haven't seen those released yet, but 124 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 6: I've been with the president before. We've met the President a. 125 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 5: Bunch of times. 126 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 6: Now most of the time, you remember that, Like you 127 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 6: and I both when we left, we were like, man, 128 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 6: they took a lot of pictures. It definitely now maybe 129 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 6: things are a little bit different. Maybe in Trump two 130 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,480 Speaker 6: point zero they're taking more photos. In general, that's always possible. 131 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 6: But I definitely, in my back of my mind as 132 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 6: they were running around taking photos like crazy, was thinking 133 00:06:57,480 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 6: to myself, this feels like in June when you and 134 00:06:59,880 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 6: I were in there, and then we get back out 135 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 6: and that night we're sitting down to have dinner and boom, 136 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 6: all the attacks start to happen in Iran. 137 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: I'm not trying to feed the conspiracy theorist here. I'm 138 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: just saying, Clay and Bucker in the Oval Office, Irani 139 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: nuclear program gets hit. Within hours, Clay goes to the 140 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: Oval Office, perhaps IRGC headquarters all over the country. You know, 141 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see, but it is quite a quite 142 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: a coincidence. Now. I do think that there will be 143 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: back into serious mode here. I do think that there 144 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: will be a strike of some kind. I don't know 145 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: what it will be. I don't know how much this is. 146 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: You know, it's still in the decision making phase. I 147 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: don't know what the president. My sense is if he's 148 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: speaking the American people, he's preparing us for we're doing 149 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: something here. So I could be wrong on this one. 150 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: I don't have any to let. 151 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 6: Me put this out. Two buck, we may not know 152 00:07:56,160 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 6: because there's such a communication ability to get out things. 153 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 6: You know, usually even back when when we hit Iran, 154 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 6: like there was still a lot of video and internet 155 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 6: capability in the country. We could hit Iran and it 156 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 6: might not be public for several hours that we've done 157 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 6: so because they don't have the immediate communication capabilities to 158 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 6: get out the video. You know, Normally, when there is 159 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 6: an attack of some sort. We know, we shut down 160 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 6: all the communications in Venezuela, but sooner or later it 161 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 6: comes out and you say, oh, there's a lot of 162 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 6: burning buildings here. People here when the planes come over, 163 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 6: they hear the bombs coming down, and they take photos 164 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 6: and videos and it ends up distributed on x, Twitter, 165 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 6: every social media platform. There may be such an information 166 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 6: shutdown that is going on, a blackout in Iran to 167 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 6: such an extent that we may have no idea it's 168 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 6: happened until the president comes out and says, hey, we 169 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 6: just walloped them, and again maybe or maybe or not 170 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 6: it's going to happen. 171 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:00,319 Speaker 5: Uh, but. 172 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 6: I just feel like it's dark. If it's gonna happen, 173 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 6: it's gonna happen in the next couple of days. It 174 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 6: would not surprise me if we're gonna get information soon 175 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 6: that we have done something. 176 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: Or that we should at least be prepared for things 177 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 1: things to happen. 178 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 7: Uh. 179 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 1: Given what just what just went down in Venezuela, let's 180 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 1: just understand the Iranians paid close attention to that. Other 181 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: countries have paid close attention to that Venezuela had Russian 182 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,200 Speaker 1: anti aircraft systems. Now there's reporting that they hadn't really 183 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: set them up, which is sounds sounds about right for 184 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: the Maduro regime, like they've they've got really fancy gear 185 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: to try to stop this sort of a striking, like, eh, 186 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: maybe we'll set it up Manyana, you know, like they 187 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: don't really care. 188 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 6: So very tropical buck, that's very often what happens in 189 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 6: the tropics. We'll just do that tomorrow, we'll get around 190 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 6: to it. Let's have a Penia Colada. 191 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 1: I think they made a miss misstep on that one, 192 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: made a mistake in their assessment. So we will see. 193 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: But I do leave it the Iranian regime. Look, it's 194 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't have many good options here at all to 195 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: strike at us. And what are they really going to 196 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: do are they going to have are they going to 197 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: if they activate some Hesbala cell that you know it 198 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: kills a whole lot of American somewhere else in the world, 199 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: or some kind of a terror. This has always been 200 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: the fear clay is that or the concern that's out 201 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: there is if we do anything that's too aggressive with Iran. 202 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: Keep in mind, we blew ups, actually trump blew up 203 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: coust some Solomani which I remember in the Iraq office, 204 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: we were told, oh, you can't do anything about that. Guy, 205 00:10:38,760 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: can't do anything. Oh it would, it would. I would 206 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: completely you know, bring things to a boiling point, trump 207 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: blew them up, and nothing happened. They fired some missiles 208 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: at a base and that was the end of it. 209 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: So I think that we shouldn't convince ourselves that the 210 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: Iranian military capability is substantially more than it is. And 211 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: if they were to do something really foolish, okay, well 212 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: then we're just gonna go full tout, you know, full 213 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: you know, al Qaeda on them, so to speak. We're 214 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 1: al Qaida hunting and everybody involved. We're gonna track them down, 215 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna blow up their house. I mean, is that 216 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: really what they want? They don't have any good options. 217 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 6: I'll also point out Russia and China did nothing after 218 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 6: we took Maduro out of Venezuela. This whole idea that 219 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 6: there was a axis of evil relationship between Russia, China 220 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 6: and Iran, for instance, I think what you're seeing is 221 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 6: that is not actual substance much behind it, because Russia 222 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 6: did nothing when we took Maduro. China did nothing. They 223 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 6: didn't stand up at all for Iran when Israel came 224 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 6: in and then we came on top of that and 225 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 6: took out their nuclear capabilities and ambitions. My point is, 226 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 6: I'm not sure Iran actually has any allies at all, 227 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,640 Speaker 6: And a lot of times you have to look behind 228 00:11:54,679 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 6: the curtains. What is said in front of the curtains. 229 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 6: Maybe one thing behind the curtains. I think think there 230 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 6: are a lot of people saying, yeah, we need to 231 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,559 Speaker 6: get these guys out of here, including Middle East, certainly Russia, China. 232 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 6: I just don't think there's any real allies there. And 233 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 6: so again, maybe we're going to find out something during 234 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 6: the course of today's program as this continues to play 235 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 6: itself out. One of the challenges out there. 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Find it in their podcast feed, 260 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 8: on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 261 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 6: Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton Show Wednesday edition. 262 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 5: Of the program. 263 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 6: We're talking about what may or may not be happening 264 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 6: in Iran very soon. But also I wanted to mention, 265 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 6: I know you talked about this off the top, Buck. 266 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 6: In many appspolis, the continued fallout after the shooting involving 267 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 6: the ICE agent who was struck by a car, A 268 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 6: lot of people tried to say on the left, Oh, 269 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 6: he was never really in any danger. Oh, what in 270 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 6: the world was he thinking. CBS News reporting in the 271 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 6: last twenty minutes or so that the agent who was 272 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 6: struck by that vehicle and fired his weapon, killing the 273 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 6: woman driving that car, he's been treated for. This is 274 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 6: the first we've heard about his conditions internal bleeding to 275 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 6: his torso relating to being hit by the car. Again, 276 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 6: that is a report from CBS News about that incident 277 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 6: and his injury that occurred during it. Again, CBS News 278 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 6: reporting that he is being treated has been treated for 279 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 6: internal bleeding. 280 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 5: To his torso. 281 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 6: Yet more evidence, as if we needed it, Buck, that 282 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 6: he was in a perilous situation and felt compelled to 283 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 6: act to prote himself and indeed was in fact injured 284 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 6: in that incident. Again, per CBS News, in a report 285 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 6: that's just come out in the last twenty or thirty 286 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 6: minutes or so, he has been treated for internal bleeding 287 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 6: to his torso yeah, and. 288 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: We were told that he was just grazed. We were 289 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: told that it didn't even hit him. We were told 290 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: that he could have done a backflip like a Ninja 291 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: master and just gotten out of the way. Perhaps you 292 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: could have shot the tires out or disappeared like one 293 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: of the X men. Clay, he was hit by a 294 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 1: car by somebody who was antagonizing law enforcement and not 295 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: just posed a threat, was a threat because she hit him. 296 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 5: Yes, I have to. 297 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: Wonder at what level do people have to understand or 298 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: what level do people have to have this explain to them. 299 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: But Clay, it doesn't They don't care. They're desperate for 300 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: a moral high ground from which they will look down 301 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 1: upon the ice enforcement actions. And this they seize on 302 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 1: this because they believe it, because they want to believe it. 303 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: It's not because of the data, the information, the video, 304 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: the truth. They don't care. It's all true. I do 305 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: think that the courts should care. And as you layer 306 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: all of these different facts to support his decision to 307 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: fire the weapon, it seems quite clear that he feared 308 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: for his safety, that he was injured, and that he 309 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: is justified in his shooting as more and more evidence 310 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: continues to come out, the idea that Democrats have tried 311 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: to put forward that this was just a mom who 312 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: dropped her kid off and happened to get shot on 313 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:47,239 Speaker 1: her way back driving home, and she was a completely 314 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: innocent bystander that was murdered. It just continues to take 315 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: more and more evidentiary basis to destroy that narrative, and 316 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: I do hope the court are going to care again. 317 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 6: My concern is that they're going to bring charges against 318 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 6: him on a state level, even though it's a federal 319 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 6: officer involved in a federal investigation. My concern is we 320 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 6: talked about earlier this week and even last week, is 321 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 6: just that Mayor Fry and Governor Walls see it as 322 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,159 Speaker 6: politically advantageous even if it's legally untenable to be bringing 323 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 6: these charges. So just FYI, I wanted to make sure 324 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 6: that we got an update for you there. Also, we'll 325 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 6: take some of your calls on the backside here eight 326 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 6: hundred two eight two two eight eight two if you 327 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 6: want to call in and react to anything we've been 328 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 6: talking about over the last two and a half hours, 329 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 6: we will be breaking all of that down for you 330 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 6: and taking your feedback as we continue to move forward, 331 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 6: and again we're expecting potentially news about Iran before we 332 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 6: even finished the show today. We'll see whether or not 333 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:57,240 Speaker 6: those come out. 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My name Clay, twenty percent off everything. 353 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 6: We're gonna get some of your calls here shortly, so 354 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 6: stay with us. Eight hundred two A two two eighth two. 355 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 6: I think we have a slaugh or two open. So 356 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 6: if you want to get in on this action, give 357 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 6: us a call right now and there that you through 358 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 6: with your brilliant insights. I also want to tell you 359 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 6: to please subscribe to our YouTube channel, YouTube dot com 360 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 6: slash Clay and Buck. I was going to tell you 361 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 6: if you were to be watching today, you would see 362 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 6: that I thought that the show was massively successful and 363 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 6: growing year after year and doing great, and everyone's really 364 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 6: happy and things are fantastic and we're very blessed. 365 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: But Clay is apparently going to job interviews because he 366 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: has a tie and a shirt on. I'm like, what 367 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: is going on here, buddy? This is you look very dapper. 368 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: You look very dapper. 369 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 6: I didn't want to go into the White House underdressed again. 370 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 6: I bought my first I have not bought a suit 371 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 6: in a decade. I bought my first suit in a decade. 372 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 6: I went in Nashville. I haven't look the reality is 373 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 6: you and I have very fortunate situations. Even if we're 374 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 6: on television, we're not fully on television, like I can 375 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 6: be in shorts. Full disclosure, I wear pajama pants a 376 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 6: lot when I'm on Fox News. I'm not gonna lie, 377 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 6: it's true. So you're only seeing us from like the 378 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 6: chest up. You throw on a jacket, you throw on 379 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 6: a button down shirt, you're fine. So I don't wear 380 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 6: suits very often, but I decided, you know what, it's 381 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 6: time for me to go get a new suit. So 382 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 6: I think I look like an adult. And inevitably it 383 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 6: doesn't matter how I dress. People in the comments decide 384 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 6: that I have somehow inappropriately dressed. I could be in 385 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 6: a full talk. 386 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: You got it. You gotta give the Midwestern grandma's who 387 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 1: swoon at your very appearance. We gotta get a full 388 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,719 Speaker 1: body shot of the suit for clayanbuck dot com. Here, 389 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: we gotta get the whole You gotta take have one 390 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: of the producers, because I don't think I've ever seen 391 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. I saw him in black tie ones 392 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: for an event. I've never seen him in a suit. 393 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: Though it's gonna be it's gonna be quite a thing. 394 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 6: The Grandmas of America would be blown away by how 395 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 6: good looking am grandma's and ro On Bass Laura has 396 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:02,159 Speaker 6: talked about this. We go out women who are grandma's 397 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 6: like they flock to me. I am their favorite person 398 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 6: on the planet. I was talking about this to your 399 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 6: wife and Grandma interrupted us to pinch your cheek and 400 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 6: talk about how handsome. It was amazing. It was like 401 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 6: we had paid her to do this. It was I mean, 402 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 6: my wife, it is amazing. She was having a conversation 403 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 6: with Buck about how the grandma's of him. I am 404 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 6: the favorite person of grandma's in America. While we were 405 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 6: doing this, Grandma came up Buck's not exaggerating, and my 406 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 6: wife was like, this is unbelievable. It was as if 407 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 6: it was a rig job to try to make the 408 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 6: case that she was making. It happened as we were talking. 409 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 6: So grandma's are going to love the suit. I think 410 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 6: I look good in the suit, even for people my 411 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 6: own age or younger grandma's are going to think that 412 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 6: I am dashing and debonair. 413 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: So full vip a vip Grandma from Clay and Buck 414 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: just with this is breaking news right now. Just wrote 415 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: in Clay, this is such a tease he's not showing 416 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,439 Speaker 1: us the suit the one day he's not on video 417 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: and he's looking so dapper. The grandma's are cheated. It's true, 418 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: you're cheating the grandma's out of there. I will say, 419 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:02,880 Speaker 1: can you think. 420 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 6: The pictures are going to come out? Because the White 421 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 6: House photographers were running around snapping, so I think they 422 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,680 Speaker 6: will come out. I'm not sure how the angles are 423 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 6: going to be, to be fair from the Oval office, 424 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 6: I wasn't posing for photos, but I'm cautiously optimistic that 425 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 6: people are going to say, you know what, that's a 426 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 6: good looking suit. So we've been working on that. By 427 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,600 Speaker 6: the way, can we play this audio clip? Because I 428 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 6: saw it all read you the Holly audio. 429 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: Now, now that we've had some fun, this is there's 430 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of these different clips though, because of the 431 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: gender stuff going on in the Supreme Court right now, 432 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: we can play one of those two. But who this 433 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: was a witness to. 434 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 5: Just say and a medical doctor. 435 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 6: On Capitol Hill a little bit earlier today, Senator Josh 436 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 6: Holly from Missouri is questioning her. She's talking about the 437 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:49,679 Speaker 6: importance of adhering to science and how fundamental that is 438 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 6: to what she does and Senator Holly of Missouri just 439 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 6: said a basic question to this medical doctor, can men 440 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 6: get pregnant? Listen to her try to answer or this question? 441 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: Play it? 442 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 3: Doctor Vermat wasn't sure I understood your answer to Senator 443 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 3: Moody a moment ago, do you think that men can 444 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 3: get pregnant? 445 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 9: I hesitated there because I wasn't sure where the conversation 446 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 9: was going or what the goal was. I mean, I 447 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 9: do take care of patients with different identities. I take 448 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 9: care of many women. I take care of people with 449 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 9: different identities, and so that's where I paused. 450 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 3: I think. 451 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 9: I wasn't sure where you were going with that. 452 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 3: Well, the goal is is the truth? So can men 453 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 3: get pregnant? Again? 454 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 9: The reason I paused there is I'm not really sure 455 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 9: what the goal of the question. 456 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 3: Goal is is to establish a biological reality. You just 457 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 3: said a moment ago that science and evidence should control 458 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,640 Speaker 3: not politics. So let's just test that proposition. Can men 459 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 3: get pregnant? 460 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 9: I take care of people with many identities. 461 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 3: But can men get pregnant? 462 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 9: Many women that can get pregnant? I do take care 463 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 9: of people that don't identify as women. 464 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 3: That can Can men get pregnant? Again? As I'm saying, 465 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 3: let me just remind you testify to a moment ago. 466 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 3: Science and evidence should control, not politics. So should can 467 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 3: men get pregnant? 468 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 9: You're a doctor, a science and evidence should guide medicine. 469 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 3: I do science and evidence tell us that men can 470 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 3: get pregnant? Biological men? Can they get pregnant? 471 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 9: I also think yes, no questions like this are a 472 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 9: political tool, and. 473 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 3: No, yes, no questions are about the truth. Doctor. Let's 474 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 3: not make a mockery of this proceeding. This is about 475 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 3: science and evidence. So I'm asking you. You know, the 476 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 3: United States Supreme Court just heard arguments yesterday at great 477 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 3: lengths on this question. This is not a hypothetical question. 478 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 3: This is not theoretical that affects real people in their 479 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 3: real lives. And you're here as an expert, called by 480 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 3: the other side as an expert, and you've been telling 481 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 3: us that you that you follow right, You're a doctor, 482 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,439 Speaker 3: and you follow the science and the evidence. So I 483 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 3: just want to know, based on the science, can men 484 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,320 Speaker 3: get pregnant? If that's a yes or no question, it 485 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: really is. 486 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 9: I think I think you're trying to reduce the complexity 487 00:24:59,200 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 9: of a lot. 488 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 3: I'm not I'm trying to get it's not complex. I'm 489 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 3: trying to get to an answer, and I'm trying to test, frankly, 490 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 3: your veracity as a medical professional and as a scientist. 491 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: Can men get pregnant? 492 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 9: I think you're also conflating it's extraordinary. 493 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 3: No, I'm not conflating male and female. There're two different things. 494 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 3: There's biological men and there's biological women. And I want 495 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 3: to know can men get pregnant? 496 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 9: What you were talking about is biology. 497 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,600 Speaker 3: You're not going to answer my question iological males. This 498 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:35,240 Speaker 3: isn't hard, doctor. Can men get pregnant? Yes? Or no? 499 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 9: I would be more than happy to have a conversation 500 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 9: with you that is not coming from a place of 501 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 9: trying to be polarized and pushing. 502 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,640 Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be polarizing. I'm trying to ask. 503 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: I think it is extraordinary that we are here in 504 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 3: hearing about science and about women. And for the record, 505 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:58,200 Speaker 3: it's women who get pregnant, not men. We are here 506 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: about the safety of women and science that shows that 507 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 3: this abortion drug causes adverse health events in eleven percent 508 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 3: of cases. That's twenty two times greater than the FDA 509 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 3: label and other facts you haven't acknowledged, and yet you 510 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 3: won't even acknowledge the basic reality that biological men don't 511 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 3: get pregnant. There's a difference between biological men and biological women. 512 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,160 Speaker 3: I just I don't know how we can take you 513 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 3: seriously and your claims to be a person of science 514 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 3: if you won't level with this on this basic issue. 515 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 3: I thought we were past all of this. Frankly, I 516 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: can't believe we're still here talking about this. 517 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: All right, we get it, we get it. Yes, yes, 518 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 1: can you believe that this is the hill that. 519 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 5: They're really going to die on? That this like it's crazy? 520 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: Of course it's crazy. The line that so many of 521 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: us remember from kindergarten cop Boys have a penis, girls 522 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: have a vagina. Remember that was yelled at Arnold Schwarzenegger 523 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: and uh, and he's along with it's not a tuma, 524 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: remember he says that. And you know, there's some there's 525 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,679 Speaker 1: some lines. There's some lines in that movie we all 526 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 1: remember actually as a pretty fun movie for what it was. 527 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: It was kind of a very well done it was 528 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 1: pretty well done for what it was. But I'm just saying, 529 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: boys have a penist, girls have a vagina. The Democrat 530 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: Party now says not clear, TBD, not sure we can 531 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 1: sign on to that one. And this is why you 532 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,159 Speaker 1: had and guys, can you pull it over from yesterday? 533 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: I don't know if we had a Catangy Brown Jackson. 534 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: In the Supreme Court, they dance around very straightforward things like, okay, 535 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: for legal purposes, for the purposes of law, if we're 536 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,479 Speaker 1: going to have non discrimination statutes when it comes to 537 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: sex discrimination Title nine, which we have had for decades, 538 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: how can we apply sex discrimination statutes if we do 539 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: not have a shared legal definition of sex. They have 540 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: no answer. And this brings us back to Matt Walsh 541 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: and what is a woman? And you know, the fundamental question. 542 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: They have no answer, and they can't have an answer 543 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: because what their answer is is whatever we feel like 544 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:21,239 Speaker 1: making you pretend that's the real answer. There is no 545 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:22,080 Speaker 1: other answer. 546 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 6: And that clip is gonna go viral, and I would 547 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 6: encourage you to share it with your kids and your grandkids, 548 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 6: and you might say, Okay, there's a lot more serious 549 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 6: things going on in the world, and certainly there are, 550 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 6: but what I would submit to you is on a 551 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 6: significant level, once you know that somebody is being dishonest 552 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 6: to you and it's a highly trained doctor. On top 553 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 6: of that, I can't trust them on anything. Once I 554 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 6: know that you will not accede to basic biological fact, 555 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 6: then everything else you're trying to argue to me, everything 556 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 6: that you are trying to put out there into the 557 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 6: larger world. 558 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 5: As a significant fact. I'm not willing to follow you 559 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 5: and think about how Look, it's also significant. 560 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 6: We tend to say, oh, these experts, these highly trained professionals. 561 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 6: She's mortally afraid of saying men can't get pregnant, not 562 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 6: because she knows it to be a factual truth, but 563 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 6: because she's afraid of what the reaction from her compatriots, 564 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 6: from other people in her profession will be if she 565 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 6: answers that biological fact. Remember, Buck, she's under oath as 566 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 6: a doctor, like it is testimony as an expert brought 567 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 6: to bear by the Democrat Party. Everything else she says 568 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 6: is completely untrustworthy. 569 00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: When she would answer that question, she's she's a lunatic 570 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: abortionist from what I understand, right, that woman who's the 571 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: So you're already dealing with somebody who's you know, May 572 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: God have mercy on her everlasting soul. It's not a 573 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:58,880 Speaker 1: good situation. Justice Catangi Brown Jackson. Here she is Clay 574 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: a Supreme Court justice is in oral arguments task with 575 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 1: the very straightforward what is a woman legally defined? And 576 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: this is how it goes play thirty two. 577 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 10: You have the overarching classification you know, everybody has to 578 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 10: be to play on the team that is the same 579 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 10: as their sex at birth. But then you have a 580 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:29,320 Speaker 10: gender identity definition that is operating within that meaning a distinction, 581 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 10: meaning that for CIS ginger girls they can play consistent 582 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 10: with their gender identity, for transgender girls they can't. 583 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 3: So I think that okay. 584 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: As to the part about your ability to pass over 585 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: from boy to girl, yes you can go from one way, 586 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 2: but not the other. I want to be clear that 587 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 2: BPJ is not challenging that specific classification. I think that's 588 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 2: important to start with. But I think, if anything, that's 589 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: useful evidence as to the lack of a transgender based discrimination, 590 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,719 Speaker 2: because if the legislature would just sort of unsettled by 591 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 2: the notion of transgender athletes, I think the answer would 592 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: have been to then bar them from that. 593 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 3: I appreciate that. I appreciate that. 594 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 7: I guess I was getting at the what I understood 595 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 7: the Chief Justice to be trying to discuss, which was 596 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 7: this notion that this is really just about the definition 597 00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 7: of who we accept that you can separate boys and girls, 598 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 7: and we are now looking at the definition of a 599 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 7: girl and we're saying only people who were girl assigned 600 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 7: at birth. 601 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: Only. That's a Supreme Court justice saying that a girl 602 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: is people who are a girl assigned at birth. I mean, honestly, 603 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,960 Speaker 1: this is like Stalin iss show trial. Also my book, 604 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: by the way, Stalin is show trial absurdity. This is 605 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: crazy town, and this is a standard mandatory view among Democrats. 606 00:31:55,000 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 6: She is the worst Supreme Court justice that we have 607 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 6: had in my life. She's an embarrassment those kinds of questions. 608 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 6: She's entitled to have whatever political opinion she wants. Did 609 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 6: you see I think you did, Buck, because I think 610 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 6: we were texting about it. She speaks more than anybody else. 611 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 6: In addition to being a crazy left wing political figure. 612 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 6: She's not a judge. She is a political figure making 613 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 6: political arguments at oral arguments when all of the justices 614 00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 6: have opportunities to speak. She's speaking more as a junior 615 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,200 Speaker 6: jurist than anyone ever has in the. 616 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: History of Supreme court oral arguments, and she's speaking about 617 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: like double to triple what the others are correct, yeah, 618 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 1: and saying really, to be fair, there's some positivity where 619 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: she speaks so much that. 620 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 6: She is destroying any legitimacy she has. 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Like, 671 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,719 Speaker 1: probably going to be a bad day for the Muller's Clay. 672 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,640 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, probably not going to be excited about 673 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,359 Speaker 1: their their Thursday morning. 674 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 6: We will see Sean Hannity will be picking up the 675 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 6: baton here on many of our member stations across the 676 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 6: entirety of the country, and Sean Hannity may have some 677 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 6: major news for you. So that's a tease for Sean 678 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,240 Speaker 6: Hannity Show coming up next. 679 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: Another guy who the Midwestern Moms ed Grandma's big fans, 680 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: big fans of the Sean Hannity handsomeness. I don't know 681 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: between you and Sean, the Grandy's of America, both of 682 00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,880 Speaker 1: you guys, they think you're both very handsome fellows. 683 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 6: We love you all of the Grandma's out there across America, 684 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 6: particularly me and uh, and I hope that you get 685 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 6: to see me in my. 686 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: That's the most Clay move ever right there. That's the 687 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 1: Clay Travis move right there. 688 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 6: I'm sorry, I love Grandma's more than you do, book, 689 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 6: and I'm not gonna apologize for it. Uh and uh 690 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 6: he will be back tomorrow. 691 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 5: I'll be in DC. Uh, so we will. Uh we 692 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 5: will see. 693 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 6: Exactly how everything shakes out. But I cannot wait uh 694 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 6: to see what is going to transpire. And uh should 695 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 6: be tomorrow, we could be, we could be doing a show. 696 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: And what feels like a rapidly evolving geopolitical scene. I 697 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: have a feeling some big stuff is coming, my friends. 698 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: I think Clay thinks so as well. So strap in tomorrow. 699 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you then