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Speaker 1: What is someone's legacy? And obviously with public figures, whether

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Speaker 1: Let's fire around some NFL stories. Jerry was on one today, man,

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Speaker 1: the player movement, the drama in the NFL. Not to

426
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: the level of, like, you know, just all about the drama,

427
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 1: but that plays a part in this and the more

428
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 1: people engage, the more people watch, and the more money

429
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: the league makes. And Jerry has been on the forefront

430
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: of that movement. So Jerry putting this press release out

431
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: Friday takes away from everything he stands for now. I

432
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: also think Jerry pushes back that I don't want to

433
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: be uncomfortable, and he said that today or you know,

434
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 1: like you guys act like I'm unafraid or I'm afraid

435
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: to be uncomfortable and he called bs on that, Well, Jerry,

436
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 1: I think this was the easiest thing for you to do,

437
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 1: And I don't blame you. If I was eighty two,

438
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't throw a huge hail Mary of some

439
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 1: human being I didn't know. And I also think that

440
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 1: Jerry's job is not as valuable as people would assume

441
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: it would be from years past of being you're the

442
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. And Jerry had some

443
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: incredible lines, like you know when he was when he

444
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,879
Speaker 1: was on the team in Arkansas that won the national

445
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: championship way back in the day, that he aspired to

446
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: be a football coach, but football coach didn't make any money,

447
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 1: and he wanted to live in a big house and

448
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: drive a nice car. So he got into business. And

449
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 1: if he knew how much football coaches were going to

450
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: be making, he just would have gotten the football coaches

451
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,439
Speaker 1: because he knows, because he pays them all now, like

452
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: he was just he makes you smile, he makes you laugh.

453
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: But I do think the Cowboys are kind of the

454
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: worst version. And let's face it, you know Jerry's eighty two.

455
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: Most shows, some of the greatest shows of all time,

456
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 1: usually don't end great. Usually when you get hooked is

457
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 1: early on, And isn't that kind of the Cowboys? Right,

458
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 1: especially if you're my age or a little bit older,

459
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: if you're somewhere between thirty five to fifty five, Like

460
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 1: your best memories of the Cowboys are the mid nineties,

461
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 1: I guess if you're thirty five, probably not, but my age,

462
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: you're older, most recently would be the Jimmy Johnson Cowboys

463
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: and that hookedjib because how could it not turned into

464
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: a little dynasty some of the greatest players in the

465
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 1: history of the game, Jimmy Johnson, Jerry Jones, just kicking

466
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: everyone's ass. If it wouldn't have been for the forty

467
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: nine ers, you probably win four straight Super Bowls, maybe

468
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: Brett fav two. But this thing's ending pretty ugly, man,

469
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: it really is. And listen, I have no not anti

470
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer at all, but I think when you look

471
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: at the Eagles and how dynamic that franchise is of

472
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: doing everything necessary to build the team, make moves, being

473
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: on the forefront of trends, how are you gonna compete

474
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 1: with that? How are you gonna compete? If Jayden Daniels

475
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: just maintained his level of play, even if he doesn't

476
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: dramatically improve. But that is just the Jayden Daniels we

477
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: see moving forward. You're not going to you can't. And

478
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: I think one thing with Jerry is he's always like

479
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 1: a year short. Look, he had the opportunity to hire

480
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: Sean Payton, he didn't. Hell he had the opportunity last year,

481
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 1: could have just fired Mike McCarthy and named Dan Quinn

482
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,119
Speaker 1: as head coach, but he didn't. He let him go

483
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: to Washington. That was on the table. He could have

484
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: done that, but chose not to. And that's what I

485
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: think he's desperately trying to force, Like I want my

486
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: guy on my staff. Sometimes that has to happen organically,

487
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: and it feels like Jerry can just never get it

488
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: right over the last ten, fifteen, twenty years, and every

489
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: time he's tried, it's kind of blown up in his

490
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: face and he gets defensive. And I would too if

491
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: I was in his shoes. But this is gonna be tough.

492
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: This is gonna be really really tough sledding. You know.

493
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Speaker 1: It's funny. I saw Aaron Glenn's quote today saying that

494
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 1: he will not be the defensive coordinator that he will

495
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: hire somebody and he will be the CEO of the team.

496
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: And I was thinking about this. It's funny whenever these

497
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: defensive guys get hired, they almost immediately become the CEO

498
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: and no longer call defense, even though the reason they

499
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: got hired was because of his defensive expertise. And I'm

500
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: not trying to hate on Aaron Glenn. He is not

501
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: alone by any means. Robert Sala, who was in those

502
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: that seat and on that dais whatever four or five

503
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: years ago, did the same thing, got hired, then immediately

504
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: gave up his play calling duties and became a CEO.

505
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: Yet basically every time I see an offensive head coach hired,

506
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 1: I saw Liam Cohen ask will you call place? Yes,

507
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: I will call place, Ben Johnson, will you call place? Yes,

508
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: I will call place. That's the reason I was hired.

509
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm going to be the head coach and the offensive

510
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: play caller if these defensive guys never do it. I

511
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: don't have a great theory for it, but I say

512
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: it all the time, and Aaron Glenn's I would say,

513
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: probably a little more unique than solid, just given his long,

514
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: long playing career. But when I hire a coach specifically

515
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 1: a young guy. I'm glad all these offensive guys say, yeah,

516
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call plays. That's the fucking reason they hired me.

517
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: So I wish Aaron Glenn best of luck. He mentioned

518
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: the Aaron Rodgers situation they hope to have figured out

519
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 1: essentially sooner than later. I think if I was a

520
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: betting man sitting here on January twenty seventh, I would

521
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: guess that Aaron Rodgers is not gonna be on the team,

522
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: and I would guess that Aaron Rodgers is gonna have

523
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: options to play other places. And it wouldn't shock me

524
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: if a plays like the Raiders Aaron Rodgers, if I'm

525
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: guessing today will I think it's more unlikely that Aaron

526
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 1: Rode Rodgers is retired, and it's more unlikely that Travis

527
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: Kelcey is playing well. I think if a lot of

528
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: people just saying like Travis Kelsey's gonna keep playing, their

529
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 1: team's good and Aaron Rodgers is going to retire, I

530
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: think it's the opposite. I expect Travis kelce Again, I

531
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: don't have any inside information. I bet he retires, and

532
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: I bet Aaron Rodgers attempts to keep playing. Uh, you know,

533
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: I like roberts Soft. I've rooted for Robertsol for a

534
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: long time. But I think anytime that a coach finds

535
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: himself in a difficult spot and he just goes back

536
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: to the well, uh, you can get in some trouble

537
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: doing that. And I think Kyle Shanahan has really had

538
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: a hard time once Damiko left, and Demiko was a

539
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 1: pretty special hire. Obviously, Steve Wilkes just didn't vibe for

540
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: whatever reason with Fred Warner and Nick Bosa. This year

541
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: with Sorenston was just a disaster. It didn't go well

542
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: and it wasn't all his fault, and the forty nine

543
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: ers got lucky that, you know, Robert Sala just didn't

544
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: really have any other options, and they're paying them a

545
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: lot of money and they're just getting the band back together.

546
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: But sometimes when and it's different, like they didn't break up.

547
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: It's not like he fired him, he got another job.

548
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: But there's I would say, usually a reason, like ex

549
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: girlfriends or ex boyfriends. They get back together and it's

550
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: just a little different. Even if early on you're like, God,

551
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:35,959
Speaker 1: this sparks are flaming again. So I'm rooting for this

552
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 1: to work. But I don't know. I just don't think

553
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: it's as plug and play. And we see this sometimes

554
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 1: with coaches. You know, Belichick always does this with his guys,

555
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: brings guys back. I just think there's a lot of

556
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: risk involved, and you know this time around. You know,

557
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: before Robert Sala was a different man. He didn't have

558
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: millions upon millions of dollars in the bank. Kyle Shanahan

559
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: could tell him to jump and he'd say how high. Well,

560
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: if I'm Robert saalaz like, I'm not gonna get yelled

561
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: at all the time by you, Kyle. I'm not going

562
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: to just get in these contentious arguments over philosophical disagreements,

563
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: which are natural in football. But before it's like, okay,

564
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: Kyle'll do what you want to do. Like now, Kyle,

565
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: I've got a pretty good idea of what I'm doing,

566
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: what I want to do. And I think sometimes when

567
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 1: you get people at different points in time in their career,

568
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: you might look at that person the same, but they

569
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: no longer look at you the same or their position

570
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: the same. And it's going to be fascinating to see

571
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: how that works. Because if I'm Robert Sala and obviously

572
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: him and Kyle have a good relationship, but the relationship

573
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: dynamics of like, I'm not just this little nobody who's

574
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: trying desperately to take the next step. Like I took

575
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: the next step and I got paid twenty thirty forty

576
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: million dollars. So like, I'm doing this because I like football.

577
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: I like coaching guys, but I don't have to be

578
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: doing this. So how you treat some of these other coaches.

579
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he treats some bad, but like, I'm

580
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 1: not really feeling that today, Doug, It's gonna be fascinating

581
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: to watch. I've just everyone's jumping for joy and it's

582
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 1: exciting because it's I would much rather have him than

583
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: Sorenston or Steve Wilkes. But I don't know, man, I

584
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: think these situations sometimes can get a little weird. I

585
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: watch Pete Carroll and Spy Tech today. Spy Tech, very

586
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 1: very cool moment for him getting to run a team

587
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: starting you know where I started in those same seats

588
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 1: now on podcasts and he's an NFL GM. You could

589
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: just tell the excitement and you could tell Pete, you know,

590
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 1: I mean, Pete changed John Schneider's life. I mean when

591
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 1: Pete got that job in Seattle and hired John, and

592
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: now John's gone on to become one of the best

593
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,360
Speaker 1: general managers in the league. And I think spy Tech realized, like,

594
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: this is a pretty unique opportunity. I get my first job,

595
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 1: and I get a guy that just knows what he's doing.

596
00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: But when you watch Pete, his age gets thrown out

597
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: a lot, like it's very synonymous with his name. Pete

598
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 1: Carroll's seventy three, Pete Carroll, he's old, Pete Carroll. It's like, God,

599
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: you watch him talk. He does not talk like a

600
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: lot of seventy three year olds. His energy is I

601
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: would say, second to none in the NFL right now,

602
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,959
Speaker 1: relative to even some of the younger coaches. So I think,

603
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, if you're getting whatever Seattle got fourteen years,

604
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: you're not getting that. But I think if things go decent,

605
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: like you get four or five strong years out of

606
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: Pete and then just figure it out from there. And

607
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 1: I think the most important thing, like that's why Kyle

608
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: Shanahan hired Robert sal I just need to get someone

609
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: who knows what they're doing. I can't get a first

610
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: time coach. I can't get a coach. I don't know.

611
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: I just need to get a guy that knows what

612
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 1: he's doing and we'll figure out some of the dynamics

613
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: from there. I totally understand why I did that. And

614
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,840
Speaker 1: if Robert Sahal we have a lot of success and

615
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 1: he goes on to become a head coach in two years,

616
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: we'll figure that problem out. Once we get there, we

617
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: will cross that bridge then. Right now, I just we

618
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: need to get going in the right direction. And no

619
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: team needs that more than the Raiders. Right two winning

620
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: seasons in multiple decades, it has been ugly. They've been

621
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: a laughingstock. And it's like Pete Carroll's the real deal.

622
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 1: And the one thing with Pete and he talked about

623
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: today and I really admired this, and they talked about, like,

624
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: why are you doing this? Pete? He was asked this

625
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: question multiple times. You've accomplished everything there is to accomplish

626
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,400
Speaker 1: in football, National championships, super Bowls, You're gonna go to

627
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame one day, multi millionaire. And he's like,

628
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: I never got into it for any of that. I

629
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 1: got into it because I like doing this, Like I

630
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: like the process of trying to get to the playoffs,

631
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: to win a playoff game, to win a super Bowl,

632
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: and you just get this guy who's just very driven,

633
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: and I think you're gonna get the best of Pete

634
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: Carroll now, a lot like Aaron Glenn, a lot like

635
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: Liam Cohen. Your roster's your roster, and your quarterbacks your quarterback,

636
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 1: and unless you're able to get a massive upgrade, it's

637
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Speaker 1: just going to be very tough sledding. And it'll be

638
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: interesting to see who the quarterback is for the Raiders.

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00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: You know, Aaron Rodgers, is he Pete Carroll's type guy?

640
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:16,760
Speaker 1: Would he go back if Russell Wilson's available? I would

641
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: never say never, at least just for a one year

642
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,959
Speaker 1: to get the thing going in the right direction. Because

643
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: remember when Pete Carroll took over Seattle in twenty ten,

644
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: I think they set a record for most transactions in

645
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: a calendar year. I mean they were cutting, trading, signing

646
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: guys at an unprecedented rate. It was insane. And then

647
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: within a couple of years, all of a sudden, they

648
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: had Lob they had Russell Wilson, they had Doug Baldwin.

649
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 1: They's had a lot of good players, and they trade

650
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 1: for Marshawn Lynch and Boom. They're just legit, but they

651
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 1: churned that roster like never seen before. And I think

652
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: the Raider, if you're a Raider fan, you should just

653
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 1: be kind of proud, like we just got real people

654
00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 1: running the organization. Okay, let's see a little thing we

655
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Speaker 1: call the Middlecoff mailbag at John Middlecoff at John Middlecoff

656
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 1: is the Instagram Fire in those dms, get your question

657
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: answered on the show. Just my name at my name,

658
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: fire in my Instagram dms, get your questions answered on

659
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 1: the show. Start with Carter, big fan and a nerd

660
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: for sports history. As a lifelong Yankee fan, it's probably

661
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: easier for me to be into that more than others

662
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Speaker 1: at my age twenty six. My question is about John Elway,

663
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Speaker 1: who was a former Yankee draft pick. I think when

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Speaker 1: we talk about sheer arm talent, he does not get

665
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Speaker 1: enough credit and is not really mentioned as much as

666
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Speaker 1: guys like Farv in Prime Rogers. When comparing top tier

667
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Speaker 1: arm talent guys from today, Alan Herbert Mahomes, do you

668
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Speaker 1: agree and if not, why? Yeah? I mean I would

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Speaker 1: put I would put Lway, I would throw Marino as well.

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Speaker 1: Just YouTube Elway, Marino mid eighties Broncos and the Miami Dolphins.

671
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Speaker 1: It's like, watch some Lway in the late to mid eighties.

672
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: Watch Dan Marino type in Dan Marino Miami Dolphins against

673
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,680
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers in the Super Bowl and I

674
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:32,959
Speaker 1: think nineteen eighty five, and just watch his first drive.

675
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Speaker 1: I mean he throwed. Those guys have howitzers. Those guys

676
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: pure arm talent were as good as anyone that's ever

677
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: played football. Both those two guys. You know, I think

678
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: Elway was a much better athlete. But you know, just

679
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Speaker 1: through my work, I've met a lot of people that

680
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,240
Speaker 1: have played against Marino, that played in the mid eighties

681
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: and the nineties that said Marino's arm was the best.

682
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Speaker 1: Obviously John had a great arm as well, So I mean, yeah,

683
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Speaker 1: these guys are all time great arm guys. For the

684
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Speaker 1: mail Bag last week, you said something about players playing

685
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Speaker 1: in the off season. You were saying that players get

686
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Speaker 1: paid for the regular season, then the off season is

687
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Speaker 1: for them to cement their legacy. Obviously they get some

688
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Speaker 1: compensation for their playoff games, but not to the level

689
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Speaker 1: that their contracts are for My question is do the

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Speaker 1: playoffs help determine contracts in the future, and how much

691
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Speaker 1: of the fact do they play Because the highest paid

692
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Speaker 1: player is Dak was sixty million a year and as

693
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Speaker 1: little to no success in the playoffs, and for him

694
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Speaker 1: it's a lot easier to just shit the bed every

695
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Speaker 1: year in the regular season every year and in the

696
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: regular season just collects sixty million dollars. So how much

697
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Speaker 1: does playoff success weigh into contract negotiations. I think it

698
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: depends who you are. You know, Dak his negotiating power

699
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: was just like I'm good, right, and this is the

700
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Speaker 1: going rate. I think a guy like Brock Purdy is

701
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Speaker 1: gonna use success in the playoffs wins and losses. I

702
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: think it's more. I mean, you do get paid, Like,

703
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Speaker 1: if you're a player that I can win ten to

704
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Speaker 1: twelve games with, you're gonna get paid a lot of

705
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: money whether we like it or not. Like you are

706
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: going to get paid a lot of money. And it's

707
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Speaker 1: just you know, the playoffs once you're Patrick mahomes Wright,

708
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: Chris Jones like those guys that they make that much

709
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: more than the next guy. Not really so regular season

710
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: you get paid for the regular season. Before the question,

711
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Speaker 1: I just want to say or my go to on

712
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Speaker 1: the NFL question, if you are the GM of the Steelers,

713
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: what steps would you take to get them back on track.

714
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: I'm so tired of the same shit every season, a

715
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 1: little to no changes. Obviously, defense, they gotta stay healthy,

716
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 1: which there's nothing you can do as a GM or

717
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: coach defense when the year starts. I mean, they clearly

718
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 1: always have pieces right, and their defense was really good

719
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: until they had some injuries and they fell apart. But

720
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: you gotta find a way to solidify the quarterback position.

721
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Speaker 1: And right now, I think I saw a quote from

722
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Speaker 1: Art Rooney that he thinks one of the two quarterbacks

723
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Speaker 1: are gonna come back Justin Fields or Russell Wilson. I

724
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: can't fathom bringing back Justin Fields, especially if you're like,

725
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: we'll bring back Justin Fields to be our starter. Why

726
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 1: didn't you just start him down the stretch in some

727
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: of those games when Russell was playing, Like shit, How

728
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: could you bring back Justin Fields? How does that make

729
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: any sense? I don't know. I mean, you got to

730
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Speaker 1: find a quarterback. You have to find a quarterback. And

731
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Speaker 1: you take some of these flyers on these offensive weapons,

732
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: some of them blow up in your face. Obviously, George

733
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Speaker 1: Pickens is a big time talent, your character, your competitive character.

734
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: Like look at the Chiefs. Look at how hard the

735
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 1: Bills aren't that talented on defense, Look how hard they play.

736
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Speaker 1: You watch George Pickens, You're like, this is the type

737
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: player that's on a bad team. Now they can overcome

738
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 1: them because of their infrastructure and their culture, but like

739
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: kind of bit them in the ass down the stretch.

740
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Speaker 1: So I think they need to value the competitive character.

741
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Speaker 1: They really had that in their good teams. You know,

742
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: when I was in the two thousands, when I was

743
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: in college, when I got in the league in the

744
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: twenty ten, eleven, twelve thirteen, I remember seeing him in

745
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: like fourteen fifteen Live. They just had so much competitive character.

746
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: It feels like they've lost that a little bit. Watching

747
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow this year really cements him as an all

748
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: time great player on a crappy team. I know that

749
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: playoff success has factored in the legacy. However, it feels

750
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: like the mainstream media is lazy by chucking up everything

751
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 1: to that. Clearly the other great quarterbacks in the league

752
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't have the Bengals primed as Super Bowl favorites. I

753
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: think sometimes we're so quick to talk, you know, Mahomes.

754
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: He's in such rare air. I mean, I mean, let's

755
00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: face it, Mahomes beating them all, right, beating them all.

756
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: So Mahomes is doing things like Mahomes shouldn't be compared

757
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,240
Speaker 1: anymore to any of these guys, right, Lamar, Josh Burrow,

758
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: especially if he wins in two weeks. He left four

759
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 1: super Bowls. Those guys have a combined zero. The only

760
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,239
Speaker 1: thing they have in common with them is they're all rich.

761
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 1: But in terms of winning the big games, he's the

762
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: only guy pulling it off. But I think we're so quick, Like,

763
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Speaker 1: what's Lamar's legacy? What is Joe Burrow's legacy? What is

764
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: going to define Joe Burrow? It's the guys. He's twenty

765
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 1: eight years old. He just turned twenty eight years old.

766
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Speaker 1: So if he can stay healthy, he should have minimum

767
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be conservative, like six seven good ash years

768
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: of his prime left. Let's just see how it plays out.

769
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: Like their team got off to a rough start. They

770
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: should be better next year. Get some draft picks they

771
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: missed the playoffs, draft a little bit higher, make some moves.

772
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: Let's just take a deep breath. Eventually, Mahomes is not

773
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: gonna win Super Bowl. Eventually that's gonna happen, or just

774
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: not even being the Super Bowl. I thought it was

775
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: gonna be this year. Clearly wrong. I just bet on

776
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: the odds because hell Brady, it happened to everybody. Eventually,

777
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: one of these other Cats is gonna be in that

778
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: game again. Burrow's the last one. But like, and when

779
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 1: that happens, can they win it? But I think we're

780
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 1: so quick legacy, like Joe Burrow's a stud. Joe Burrow

781
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 1: is a bawler. But to try to like make some

782
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: like I don't even know how to describe it. We're

783
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: just it's kind of the first take culture. Let's just

784
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: we got some time here. He's a badass. He was

785
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 1: unreal this year, unreal. His coach and his defense let

786
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: them down. But like John Elway, Dan Marino, Aaron Rodgers,

787
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 1: like guys Peyton Manning, guys have a weird season, it happens,

788
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: still play well. I'm a lifelong Charger fan in Newport

789
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: Beach and have been here, have been since the San

790
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: Diego days. While our franchise has been rocky, has a

791
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: rocky reputation, I feel that we finally are ready to

792
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: contend consistently with Jim Given that we have to play

793
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Reid twice a year, as well as the

794
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: other competition in the AFC West, where we pop like

795
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 1: the Lions this year or like the twenty seventeen Eagles,

796
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: seems like our only shot to win a title. What

797
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Speaker 1: do you think the best course of action for the

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00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 1: Chargers this offseason would be to obtain a where that

799
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: is a possibility. Obviously our defense was great last year,

800
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 1: but they lacked a great pass rusher down the stretch.

801
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: With Mac and Bosa getting older and a weak free

802
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: agency in draft D line class, it seems unlikely that

803
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 1: they filled that hole. I think the one thing with

804
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: Harball is because he puts such an emphasis on who

805
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: his defensive coordinator is, he's always been able to manipulate

806
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: the defense. Obviously, when he has great players, he dominates.

807
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: But even this year, like Khalil was old, Bosa was

808
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 1: in an out of lineup Derwin. You know, you could

809
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: blame Brandon Saley, but it felt like is Derwin still

810
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 1: a top bend player? And then it was like, God,

811
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Speaker 1: this team's really really good on defense. It is an

812
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: offensive league. Obviously, you got to play defense to win

813
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs. We know that it's problem with the Bills,

814
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: like they got to get better on defense. You know,

815
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: look at the Eagles, I mean they had the best

816
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: defense in the league. Look at the Chiefs. Now how

817
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: good they've been on defense for four or five years.

818
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: But you need your OFFENSI score points, and if Lad

819
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: mcconkey's your best weapon, you got problems. I think the

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00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: key to the Chargers this offseason find a tight end

821
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:13,360
Speaker 1: or wide receiver who can be an impact play guy,

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Speaker 1: and find a running back who can just be a

823
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 1: bell cow. Luckily, in this draft, you're gonna be able

824
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 1: to draft a running back on the second day who's

825
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: going to be an immediate starter. How are you gonna

826
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Speaker 1: find your impact skill guy? I don't know have the

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00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,719
Speaker 1: answer to that, but I'm interested to see what Jim does.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about the Patriots hired McDaniels as

829
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Speaker 1: their offensive coordinator. I thought they were trying to hire

830
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,560
Speaker 1: outside the Bill tree this time around. Rabel played for

831
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Speaker 1: Bill but never coached with him. Curious your thoughts on

832
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 1: the higher and maybe what he could scheme for Drake

833
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: that's different from what he schemed for Tom that's a

834
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,280
Speaker 1: good question. We talked about this, I think last week.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Vrabel at this point in time of

836
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Speaker 1: his career would hire anybody he doesn't want to hire.

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Speaker 1: But you can't tell me this hire wasn't influenced by

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00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: the Crafts twofold. They obviously really like Josh. Josh is

839
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: kind of cheap. Why because Mark Davis still paying them,

840
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Speaker 1: and I think one knock on the Crafts is like

841
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: they're kind of cheap. So like, was this craft forcing

842
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: this on Vrabel and he was just cool with it.

843
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: I think they always wanted somewhat of a mobile quarterback.

844
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Speaker 1: You know, their plan for their Steve Young was Jimmy Garoppolo,

845
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: and Jimmy had some mobility when he was younger, so

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Speaker 1: I think they aspired to get that now. You know,

847
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,680
Speaker 1: can he use Drake, who's much more of a hybrid player.

848
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm sure they will. One major problem

849
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: with the Patriots is like their skill guys suck, so

850
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: they need skill guys. They need skill guys, but their

851
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: offensive line is just horrid, terrific. I mean, he'd get

852
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,839
Speaker 1: you killed, literally, I mean it did. Kobe got hurt,

853
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,760
Speaker 1: Drake May was getting kick ot. You've got to improve

854
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: the offensive line, which I would imagine Braman will do immediately.

855
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,200
Speaker 1: A question for the back With the Bears now hiring

856
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:13,280
Speaker 1: Johnson and Dennis Allen to pretty large contracts, especially Ben Johnson,

857
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: do you think the mccaskeys are finally realizing to be

858
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: successful in the league you have to have elite coaching

859
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: and can't be cheap. Do you think this could be

860
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 1: the turning point in the organization on how much money

861
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: we spend if Ben is successful as a head coach.

862
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 1: I think the Charger. I think a lot of teams

863
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 1: like the Bears, who are owned by second and third

864
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: generation family members who were taught by their parents who

865
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: obviously grew up wealthy but weren't billionaires. And so you're

866
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: a billionaire now, but you're in the mindset of being

867
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 1: a guy that was you were never guaranteed to make

868
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: a profit. So the mccaskeys, who were the Hollis family

869
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: when they bought the team, there was no guaranteed to

870
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: make a profit for a large percentage of the history

871
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: of the NFL. When Jerry Jones bought into the Cowboys.

872
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: The financial situation of the league is dramatically different now,

873
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: but it doesn't take away from your mindset of when

874
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: you made the purchase and your core values. As kind

875
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 1: of a businessman, I say this all the time about coaches.

876
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: Your core values as a coach don't really change. They're

877
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: cemented when you're very, very young. Kyle Shanahan's core values

878
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,200
Speaker 1: as a coach, running the football in defense were cemented

879
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: by his father when he was a teenager. Andy Reid

880
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 1: has loved passing the ball since he played at BYU

881
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: in the early to mid eighties, and that was their

882
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: philosophy way ahead of the curve. What does Pete Carroll

883
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:55,279
Speaker 1: like to do? Run the ball and play defense. Pete

884
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 1: Carroll's not going to be a guy like Dan Campbell

885
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: and Dan Quinn going for it all the time. Brian Schottenheimer,

886
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,920
Speaker 1: anyone my age yor older knows like Marty Schottenheimer was

887
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:12,320
Speaker 1: very very old school. Well, who are Brian Schottenheimer's idols?

888
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: His father? And like Pete Carroll, I know what the

889
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: Cowboys are gonna try to do. They're gonna try to

890
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: be good on defense and run the football. They're not

891
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: gonna have some up tempo passing game. It's not what

892
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,439
Speaker 1: he's known for that's not his core philosophy as a guy.

893
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: And I think some of these teams, like, it's hard

894
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,760
Speaker 1: for the Bengals. It was hard for the Chiefs before

895
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: Andy Reid, and even with Andy Reid, it's hard for

896
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:39,479
Speaker 1: the Bears because organizationally, their core soul ethos is trying

897
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 1: to pinch every penny because that was bred and beaten

898
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 1: into them from how they came up in the business.

899
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 1: Despite now it's like, you can't lose money paying a

900
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: coach ten twelve million dollars a year. I think the

901
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: league gave a presentation, was it last year or two

902
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 1: years ago at one of the owners meetings, and Roger

903
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: was like, do you guys know that you're paying fired

904
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 1: coaches and fired personnel people a total of eight hundred

905
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 1: million dollars. Guess what, These guys have never been richer.

906
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: So I think the faster you can shift your mindset.

907
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: And I think it's it's something we all do, and

908
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: you either are good at it, slow at it, or

909
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: you're never going to be good at it. You gotta

910
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:25,319
Speaker 1: look at money like widgets and become numb to it. Now,

911
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean just throw money around and waste it

912
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,080
Speaker 1: and put yourself in precarious situations. But the faster you

913
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 1: can look at whatever money you're making, and especially as

914
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 1: you get older, if you make more money, become less

915
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: emotionally tied to it. I think a lot of people

916
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: get emotionally tied to money, and I've saw it growing up,

917
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 1: and I think it really limits your ability to make

918
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: more and to the easiest way to make more is

919
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,879
Speaker 1: to not worry as much about it. That's my personal philosophy,

920
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 1: and I think so many people that struggle with money,

921
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: they get so emotion only tied to it. It's like, guys,

922
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,839
Speaker 1: it's just a fucking piece of paper that there's no

923
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 1: country in the world that's easier to make it. And

924
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: if you're in the NFL, you've never made more. But

925
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: if you worry the difference between when I saw that,

926
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 1: he was uncomfortable, so he's uncomfortable. Like you can pay

927
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: a guy seven eight million dollars, but you're uncomfortable paying

928
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: a guy thirteen million dollars. So you're the difference of

929
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: five million dollars a year when you're getting four hundred

930
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,800
Speaker 1: and fifty million dollars from the league on television alone

931
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: and five million dollars makes you uncomfortable, Well, five million

932
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: dollars of one hundred million dollars is five percent. So

933
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: you're talking like one percent of your television revenue is

934
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: making you uncomfortable. How are you going to be successful

935
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,000
Speaker 1: when that's the case, Like, think about the numbers we're

936
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: talking now. If it's fifty percent of your revenue, totally understand, Like,

937
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 1: this is a big risk. You're talking tiny amounts of money.

938
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,440
Speaker 1: This is for the mailbag. I'm personally tired of talking

939
00:54:56,480 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: heads glazing Kyle Shanahan in his offense, I had under

940
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: performance in every Super Bowl except the Falcons won and

941
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: they blow a twenty eight to three because he was

942
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 1: unable to have good clock management. I will defend Kyle here.

943
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: He's not in charge of clock management as a coordinator.

944
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: That Super Bowl's on Dan Quinn. He's the head coach.

945
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: So if you want him to run it, you tell

946
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 1: him in the headset run the ball. If you want

947
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: him to pass it, you can tell him to pass it.

948
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 1: Kyle shanan has won a lot of playoff games, a

949
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: lot of playoff games. If he hadn't, you wouldn't be

950
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: able to glaze him. He was bad. This year, but

951
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: over the course of his career, like, he's been to

952
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: four conference championship games because he rattled off a lot

953
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: of wins to get there. So I listen, I can

954
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:45,560
Speaker 1: be critical of Kyle, but he's won big games in

955
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: the biggest moments, and if you do that, like you

956
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: get a little more leeway. Uh, let's face it. This

957
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: from Axel, There's only two guys that can beat Andy

958
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: and Mahomes. One of them works for Fox and his

959
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: owner of the Raiders, and the other plays for an

960
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 1: incompetent coach and organization. I think he means Brady and

961
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. The Bengals should have cleaned house this year

962
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,240
Speaker 1: even if they didn't get Rabel. Who do you get

963
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,720
Speaker 1: good chance? You land Pete Carroll and get a competent

964
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: GM and then you're consistently in the playoffs. We're being

965
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 1: robbed of Burrow versus Mahomes. I don't think Mahomes and

966
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: Allen are rivalry when in the playoffs Allen is zero

967
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: for four. Allen is great, don't get me wrong. But

968
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: Burrow and Mahomes is the rivalry. But Burrow is on

969
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 1: one of the worst ran NFL teams in the League.

970
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I would say this. Buffalo and them

971
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 1: have played in some great games. I mean that was

972
00:56:38,480 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: riveting TV. They have played in two of the better

973
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: playoff games in recent memory. Buffalo and Josh Allen has

974
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 1: played them just in spectacular fashion. The only people that

975
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: have played them well the Bengals beat him, the Bills,

976
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: and then the Eagles and the forty nine Ers. In

977
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,520
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. We saw the Ravens. They crumbled like

978
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:05,239
Speaker 1: a cookie. The Texans try their special teams were a joke.

979
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: So I just think that I agree. I mean, part

980
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: of a rivalry is has to go back and forth.

981
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: There has to be some ebb and flow to this.

982
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 1: But I think they've played Hi pretty well, man, I

983
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: really do. I was impressed yesterday. I think Andy and

984
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: Spags would tell you that, like that was a tough

985
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: ass game. Native Arizonian and Cardinals fan, do you think

986
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury's success with the Commanders is an indictment of Kyler.

987
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: Murray de Hop and Hollywood Brown are now about to

988
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: go to the Super Bowl with the Chiefs, who were

989
00:57:53,000 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: his top two wide receivers during the Kingsbury era. I

990
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: feel like Gannon is a good coach, but Kyler just

991
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: can't seem to win enough. What are your thoughts on

992
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: Kyler and what do you think the Cardinals could get

993
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: for him in trade? Well, I think we kind of

994
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: saw it with Kyler this year. Immense talent, roller coaster

995
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: player and just I mean, he's never gonna be one

996
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: of the top guys in the league, and I think

997
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 1: it's going to be difficult for him to be a

998
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: top ten quarterback. But he's so talented at least you know,

999
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: in the prime of his career athletically, he's never going

1000
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,400
Speaker 1: to be a bottom ten guy. So he always kind

1001
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:34,040
Speaker 1: of floats somewhere between like eleven to twenty. And you

1002
00:58:34,120 --> 00:58:36,360
Speaker 1: watch on given weeks, like he can beat people with

1003
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: just incredible halves, right, he can make multiple plays, score touchdowns,

1004
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 1: make great throws, make plays with his legs, and then

1005
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: he can do incredibly dumb things. Hard to totally judge

1006
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 1: them this year. Their talent's not great, but I think

1007
00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: he kind of just established what he is. A really

1008
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 1: talented player, not someone you can build around as a

1009
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, but you could do way worse, and you're

1010
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 1: kind of stuck with him. Keep holding up the team

1011
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: I think you'd get a couple second round picks for him.

1012
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: I would not trade for him. I mean I would

1013
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: trade for him if he costs nothing, but I would

1014
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 1: have a hard time trading for him if they were like,

1015
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: we need your first round pick. Click, It's no for me, Doug.

1016
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate this. My name is James. This is my

1017
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 1: wife's Instagram. Not really an insta guy. I appreciate the

1018
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: perspective you share and wanted to underscore a recurring theme

1019
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: on the pod. I'm a leader at a management consulting

1020
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: firm and manage various projects teams. One of my teams

1021
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: wasn't taking their work to the next level. They were

1022
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: phoning it in a talented and intelligent group, but just

1023
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:46,080
Speaker 1: weren't owning their craft. It was one of those situations

1024
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 1: where I thought there was a gap between what they

1025
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: deem as good and what it takes to be good.

1026
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: I used one of your stories about Andy Reid to

1027
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: help illustrate my point about his intrinsic curiosity and genuine

1028
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: interest in football. This was a very relatable and helpful.

1029
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: This was very relatable and helpful and underscores what you say.

1030
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: So what's intrinsically motivating to you appreciate the note, and

1031
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: I think most coaches are that way. I watched some

1032
01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: of the Liam Cohen press conference today. One he's a

1033
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: goofy looking bastard. I mean he really is. He's a

1034
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: different cat. Clearly smart guy had some success with Baker,

1035
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 1: But you talk about and I've defended him, like someone's

1036
01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: offering you eleven twelve million dollars and you know they

1037
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 1: expect you to stay loyal for a third of that,

1038
01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 1: like welcome to the real world. And I'm a big

1039
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 1: Jason white guy and I don't know. I haven't asked

1040
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: him his take on this whole thing, but like I

1041
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: do get leaving for the job. But just watching him,

1042
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I can see more people think he

1043
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 1: kind of comes off as a BS artist. You gotta

1044
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: be careful about press conferences. I'm not going to make

1045
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: any like grand proclamations on like he's gonna suck or

1046
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: he's not gonna pull this off, because the press conferences

1047
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: you never know. But it was just a little weird.

1048
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: I mean it was just I watched probably ten minutes

1049
01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: of it. There's some viral clips going as well. I

1050
01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: just red flag might be strong, but let's just say

1051
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,040
Speaker 1: that I'm probably on the fence. Like if it was

1052
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,080
Speaker 1: an IPO for a stock, I don't know if I'd

1053
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 1: purchase again, funky looking cat. My question is, do you

1054
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,400
Speaker 1: think that Saquon could have been in the goat conversation

1055
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: if he had been with the Eagles his entire career

1056
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 1: since he was a rookie. And why isn't Steve the

1057
01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:43,560
Speaker 1: Chiefs DC getting any coaching interviews. I know Mahomes and

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Speaker 1: Reid are basically one of the best ever, but Steve

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Speaker 1: has been doing a great job. Uh well, think about this.

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Speaker 1: Who are the best ever running backs? Most people say

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Speaker 1: Jim Brown, I just say yeah, never saw him play,

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01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: obviously one of the greatest players of all time. Walter Payton,

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01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:07,600
Speaker 1: I think universally agreed upon. Barry Sanders, one of the

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01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:11,840
Speaker 1: greatest players. EMMITTT. Smith. I think most people would say

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Speaker 1: it's probably not as good as those guys, but played

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Speaker 1: behind one of the best offensive line and was one

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Speaker 1: of the most productive. Fantastic player Adrian Peterson, Derrick Henry Ladanian, Tomlinson.

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Speaker 1: Then they're the hybrid guys. You know, LT and Marshall

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Speaker 1: Falk were these guys that gets you, like seventy eighty

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Speaker 1: ninety catches. And then there was Adrian Peterson who was

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Speaker 1: just like, I'm a running back. I don't even I

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Speaker 1: always thought it was weird. Adrian Peterson was not good

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01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: in past protection. It's like, motherfucker, you huge, you should

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01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: destroy linebackers, but just wasn't his cup of tea. Catching

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01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,360
Speaker 1: was not his cup of tea. You hand him that

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01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: ball and just let him rip. And there's somewhat of

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Speaker 1: an element to Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry feels like a

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Speaker 1: much more likable guy than Adrian Peters. I guess I

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Speaker 1: think I would rather both in their prime. I take

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Speaker 1: Derrick Henry just feels like I'd rather be around Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 1: I would say, Saquan, you don't go two overall in

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Speaker 1: the draft if you aren't just a complete freak show

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01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:17,800
Speaker 1: at running back. You know, people forget like Zeke obviously

1084
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:20,200
Speaker 1: has not been good for a while. He was unreal

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Speaker 1: when he was young. And Zeke, unlike Adrian Peterson, elite

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01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,440
Speaker 1: and pass pro and could catch the ball, was a

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Speaker 1: all the round back. Say, Kawan's got solid hands, but

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01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:33,880
Speaker 1: he's not McCaffrey or Marshall fall Corelt. But he is

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Speaker 1: such a great running back. His you know that touchdown

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Speaker 1: run in the NFC Championship game. I don't think the

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01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: two dbs quite realized. This guy's like a bowling ball

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01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 1: in his contact balance. To do a three sixty at

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01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: full speed as you're getting hit and not even remotely

1094
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: come close to falling down, I think it's almost underrated

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01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: how insane that is. We obviously talk a lot about

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01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: that play where he jumped over the dude backwards. That

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01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: play yesterday where he's just getting hit and kind of

1098
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: spinning around as he's getting hit and doesn't even break

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01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 1: stride is a remarkable display of athleticism. But like Adrian

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01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 1: Peterson and Derrick Henry high end speed, if he gets

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01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: in the open field, he's gone. So he's just the

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Speaker 1: ultimate home run hitter who is just a great between

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01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 1: the tackles running back. So he could have been a

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer for sure. I wouldn't say it's too late.

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01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 1: It's difficult when you just waste the first I mean,

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Speaker 1: what year to come in the league. It's just gonna

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01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,360
Speaker 1: be hard. And he's already got some tread on the

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01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: tires because he's been hurt. Is this his fifth season

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Speaker 1: or sixth season? So eighteen nineteen, twenty twenty one, twenty two,

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Speaker 1: twenty three. Yeah, he's been a league a while. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if he would have been the goat, but

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01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: but I think we would have talked about him like

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01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer for sure. I don't even know

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01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: who the goat running back is, he would be in

1115
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: the discussion. I think of a guy that ran for

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01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: potentially a couple of two thousand yard seasons, a ton

1117
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 1: of like fifteen seventeen hundred yard seasons, kind of underrated.

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01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 1: In twenty two he ran for thirteen hundred yards with

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Speaker 1: the Giants. Honestly, his rookie season he ran for thirteen

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Speaker 1: hundred yards eleven touchdowns. He's a stud man and just

1121
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,439
Speaker 1: an all around great guy. People love that guy, Love

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01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: that guy. With Pete Carroll joined the Raiders, it's clear

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01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: the AFC West has the most impressive head coaches in

1124
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: the league. How do you rank the coaches in that

1125
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:45,360
Speaker 1: division and which team do you think can challenge the Chiefs?

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01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:53,919
Speaker 1: Was Andy Reid? One cemented, I would I'd probably go

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01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: Jim harbought to a Sean Payton two B and Pete

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Speaker 1: Carroll three. Pete Carroll the last couple of years in Seattle,

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01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 1: defense was pretty shitty and he's a defensive guru. Like

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01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: it didn't go He got fired for a reason. Now,

1131
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 1: relative to a lot of guys in the league, they

1132
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: would sell their left nut to have that happen to him.

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01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:20,240
Speaker 1: But you know, Pete, the way it ended wasn't offense

1134
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: g you know on the offense was it was? His

1135
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: defense was terrible, but relative to what the Raiders were

1136
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Speaker 1: taking over. Big Upgrade A big fan of the show.

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Speaker 1: What's the deal with All World Players? I've been watching

1138
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 1: the NFL pretty consistently for quite a few years. All

1139
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:40,120
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it seems like the announcers and podcasters

1140
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 1: are using the word all World to describe some players.

1141
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,800
Speaker 1: How did they get this title? Why did we need

1142
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 1: another level from all pro? The US is the only

1143
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: country that plays football at this level, so the world

1144
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: part seems kind of redundant. Thanks and keep doing your thing.

1145
01:06:57,320 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 1: Shout out to the morning crew at ABC twenty seven

1146
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: and Air. I know they're listening. Appreciate you boys. I

1147
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: don't know, it's always been a pet peeve of me.

1148
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:10,560
Speaker 1: Whoever wins the Super Bowl, like Patrick Mahomes, you give

1149
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:13,919
Speaker 1: them the Lombardy you give you know, you make Chris

1150
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: Jones the Super Bowl MVP. You get Andy Reid. We're

1151
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,520
Speaker 1: the world champs. And listen how he would how he

1152
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: said this before World Champs. No, you're you're the You're

1153
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: the NFL champs America. A couple international players, only one

1154
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 1: I can think of. That's any good, is my lotta.

1155
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: But this is not World champs. We're NFL champs. It

1156
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: was American sport, no matter how much we want to

1157
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: go to England, Germany eat some brats playing fucking Brazil,

1158
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 1: some druggies and hookers walking like, let's let's be real American, NFL,

1159
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,520
Speaker 1: not world I hate that World champs in baseball. If

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01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 1: you want to say world champs here, yeh, it's world

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01:07:56,080 --> 01:08:01,160
Speaker 1: game basketball, Kaida. I mean, it's a world game, but

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01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: it's sports played here. But if those people want to

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01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: say it way more, there's way more, I guess merit

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01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 1: to that statement in the NBA and in Major League Baseball,

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01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: in hockey as well than in football. It's like sake

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01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 1: of one. Bartley went to penn State, grew up in Pennsylvania.

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01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 1: Born in Brooklyn. Christian McCaffrey born in Denver, Right. Jalen

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01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:30,799
Speaker 1: Hurts went to BAM in Oklahoma, grew up in Texas.

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01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson World Champs. UH love the show that said

1170
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:42,679
Speaker 1: what the fuck happened with the officiating in today's championship games?

1171
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:46,559
Speaker 1: Two huge game changing calls, holding by Eagles on the

1172
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:49,719
Speaker 1: wide receiver Brown first down throw with little time left

1173
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: in the first half, the Josh Allen fourth down sneak

1174
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 1: clearly a first down even after the replay. I get

1175
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: that the ball doesn't lie in most instances, but these

1176
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: are huge moments them shifts in the game and calls

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01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 1: that I can't help but think are rigged. I've been

1178
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 1: saying this forever, and listen, if it's your team or

1179
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,679
Speaker 1: you have money on the game, I've experienced that pain

1180
01:09:11,760 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: and anguish and anger and disgust. But officiating or officials

1181
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: and referees in all these sports, specifically football, college and pro,

1182
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,799
Speaker 1: are no different than government officials. It's the only place

1183
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:35,200
Speaker 1: where you can be consistently incompetent and keep your job. Players, coaches, podcasters.

1184
01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 1: I'd go out of business. So you see these calls

1185
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,559
Speaker 1: that you disagree with, I do believe, and I know

1186
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,240
Speaker 1: people were adamant that the above angle. I think that

1187
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 1: Josh Allen thing was kind of close. And once they

1188
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 1: don't call it on the field, like, I don't have

1189
01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 1: a problem with them not overturning it. Eagles scored fifty

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01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: five points. There is no call in the Eagles game

1191
01:09:56,760 --> 01:10:00,640
Speaker 1: that I'm going to let people argue about Bills. I

1192
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,200
Speaker 1: get that a little bit. I would say this if

1193
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 1: I was a Bills fan, how do we keep running?

1194
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 1: And I get it because last week it was working

1195
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 1: against a great run defense in Baltimore. If you are

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01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 1: consistently calling a play even as basic and simple, and

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01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I would say the quarterback sneak is one

1198
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:24,799
Speaker 1: of the most basic plays in the history of football.

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Speaker 1: Right the kneel down, the quarterback sneak, the spike. The

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01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:31,679
Speaker 1: difference is like the kneel down the spike, like it's

1201
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 1: borderline impossible to screw up if you just get the

1202
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: center quarterback exchange correct. Right the quarterback sneak, you do

1203
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:43,520
Speaker 1: need penetration and depending on your guarden center and your quarterback,

1204
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: Like do you have enough strength to push their defensive

1205
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:50,920
Speaker 1: line back who's playing defensive tackle for them. It was

1206
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 1: not working. That play was not working. The only time

1207
01:10:55,439 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: it worked is when he jumped over the line of

1208
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,320
Speaker 1: scrimmage and jumped over all their defensive lineman. Drew Brees

1209
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 1: used to do that a lot. Drew Brees used to

1210
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 1: do that on the goal line. So the moment you

1211
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 1: crossed the line of scrimmage right the goal line, it's

1212
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 1: a touchdown. So even if you score and they hit

1213
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,760
Speaker 1: the ball out, six points go on the board. Well,

1214
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,679
Speaker 1: in a play like that in the middle of the field,

1215
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 1: if they hit the ball out of your hands, it's

1216
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,080
Speaker 1: a fumble. And he literally fumbled. But he had to

1217
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: do it because he wasn't getting any penetration because he

1218
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: stands up so high. You know, you hear this a

1219
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 1: lot with coaches. Pad level, pad level, pad level. His

1220
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: pad level on that quarterback sneak is pretty high and

1221
01:11:33,200 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: he's a tall guy. It's a terrible play. How do

1222
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: they not run some other plays? Look at the short

1223
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: yardage plays Andy Reid was running. He got Mahomes on

1224
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: the run. He ran some basic flat routes. Look at

1225
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,639
Speaker 1: what they do with Jayden Daniels shotgun. Get him moving?

1226
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:54,280
Speaker 1: Why because the athleticism is a separating attribute yet with

1227
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and listen, he's one of the stronger, more

1228
01:11:56,479 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 1: powerful quarterbacks ever. But the play was not working, and

1229
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,679
Speaker 1: he just kept going back to the well, like, eventually, guys,

1230
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:06,560
Speaker 1: there's no water in this well, We're gonna have to

1231
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: go to another well. And Joe Brady, I don't know

1232
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 1: if it was lack of experience. I don't know if

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01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: he didn't feel comfortable in any other plays. I don't

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01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:14,519
Speaker 1: know if Sean McDermott forced him to call that play.

1235
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's Josh Allen demanding it. That

1236
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 1: was a disaster. Unless there's a big drop catch in

1237
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, which drop catch was bigger this playoffs

1238
01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:41,400
Speaker 1: Andrews or mckayuh not mccaid, What what Dalton Dalton kincaid? Well,

1239
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,479
Speaker 1: they both ended the games right because neither team got

1240
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:52,920
Speaker 1: the ball back. That's a good question. I think Andrews

1241
01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:58,000
Speaker 1: catch was easier. I think it's fair to say they were.

1242
01:12:58,040 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 1: Obviously Andrews was catchable. Concaid's was catchable as well. That's

1243
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 1: a good question. I would say you'd have to go

1244
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:21,719
Speaker 1: Buffalo because he catches that ball. I mean, who knows,

1245
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,719
Speaker 1: Maybe they score a touchdown. I'm trying to go back.

1246
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: So it's Buffalo. Two minutes left, fourth and five, you're

1247
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:39,880
Speaker 1: down three. He catches that ball, I'd go, Buffalo. I'd

1248
01:13:39,880 --> 01:13:46,160
Speaker 1: go that's a one A one B situation, you know

1249
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:51,160
Speaker 1: in the pros. Obviously, some catches are clearly much more

1250
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: difficult than others, in the old adage of like you

1251
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 1: touch it, you clutch it. Obviously, some balls that hit

1252
01:13:58,200 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: you in stride are different than ones that you have

1253
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:02,800
Speaker 1: to go up and high point in traffic, and that

1254
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:04,760
Speaker 1: was one he had to layout go to his right.

1255
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: But still I think he catches that. I don't know

1256
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:13,200
Speaker 1: minimum half the time. A former first round pick question

1257
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 1: for the Mailbag lifelong depressed Bills fan. While we were

1258
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,439
Speaker 1: outclassed when it mattered most, why doesn't the NFL have

1259
01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:21,720
Speaker 1: a chip in the ball? So many of these big

1260
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,599
Speaker 1: games are determined by some fifty five year old thirty

1261
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: yards away from the ball trying to place the ball

1262
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: from an angle they saw. Surely the richest league in

1263
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,760
Speaker 1: the world could put a chip in each tip of

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Speaker 1: the ball and have more of a precise system. You

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Speaker 1: could even test the technology on the goal line. If

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Speaker 1: the chip breaks the line, the refs get an automatic

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Speaker 1: signal on their watch and it's a touchdown, similar to

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Speaker 1: the goal line technology in soccer. Yeah, I mean I can't.

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Speaker 1: You know, Belichick always butted heads with these guys over

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Speaker 1: this super super expensive league that's making all this money,

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Speaker 1: and guys would be cheap about putting certain cameras in

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Speaker 1: certain places. So I think you always battle. This gets

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Speaker 1: back to the mccaskey's some of these franchises that you know,

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Speaker 1: treat money like it's not gonna come back, and then

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Speaker 1: if we spend I mean, think about how many teams

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Speaker 1: in the NFL don't even buy the most expensive field turf.

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Speaker 1: They buy a field turf that costs half a million

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Speaker 1: dollars instead of the one that costs a million dollars.

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Speaker 1: These are billion dollar franchises. They're spending two hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty million dollars on the employees for that turf, right

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Speaker 1: that's the players, and they go cheap. So I just

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Speaker 1: think it's hard to convince some of these people to

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Speaker 1: agree it just this and until stuff impacts you, like obviously,

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Speaker 1: if you're Buffalo, you're gonna push for that. I would

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Speaker 1: imagine the Chiefs would be cool pushing for that. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, man I, because how could anyone tell? In

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Speaker 1: the pile? No one knows how. I mean the visual

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Speaker 1: of the one official on the bottom inside the line

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Speaker 1: and the official on the top on the other side

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Speaker 1: of the white line. It's like neither of these guys

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Speaker 1: have a fucking clue. It's an educated guess. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: get your hopes up for it, though. If you swap

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Speaker 1: Mahomes and Allan, so Mahomes is on the Bills, Alan

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Speaker 1: is on the Chiefs. What do you think their careers

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Speaker 1: look like? Does Alan have a couple more Super Bowls?

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Speaker 1: Does Mahomes have any? I would say Alan can be

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Speaker 1: a little more reckless than Patrick. You know, Patrick has

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Speaker 1: really kind of come into his own, like he played

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Speaker 1: this season even parts of the last season turned into

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Speaker 1: a Tom Brady Peyton manning, like Okay today, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to manage the game, and Josh is less likely to

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Speaker 1: do that. He's got a little more farvyan to him,

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Speaker 1: which listen, Andy likes, and Patrick used to have a

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Speaker 1: lot of that to him. He's just kind of changed

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Speaker 1: as he's gotten older. I mean, Josh still plays a lot,

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Speaker 1: he's a more accurate pastor now, but his style is

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Speaker 1: kind of his style. I think if Patrick started with

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Speaker 1: the Bills, I don't know. It's impossible to play that game.

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Speaker 1: I do think Josh Allen would have a super Bowl

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Speaker 1: if he was with Andy Reid maybe two. Would they

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Speaker 1: be five and six years and three straight? I don't

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Speaker 1: know about that. Hard to tell what Mahomes would have

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Speaker 1: been like without Andy. One, he got to sit for

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Speaker 1: a year. Think about that. He got to sit for

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Speaker 1: a year. The other thing with the Bills is like

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Speaker 1: their head coach is a defensive guy like Andy Mahomes

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Speaker 1: kind of hand in hand. You know, they work pretty

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Speaker 1: closely together. Sean McDermott is the head coach, he's not

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Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator of the play card. Well end on

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Speaker 1: that one. Appreciate everyone firing in those dms and look

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Speaker 1: forward to a big, big week of tuckets and ball.

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Speaker 1: The volume