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Speaker 1: and Buck podcast. It starts now, Buck, you tell me

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Speaker 1: that I'm getting criticized for saying that JFK is handsome.

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Speaker 1: I never Some of the things that people come at

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Speaker 2: Can I just point out, it's not that you're talking

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Speaker 2: even discussing it. It's that you're so wrong, Clay, that

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Speaker 2: that people are agreeing with me that JFK not really

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Speaker 2: that handsome overrated in handsome overrated handsomeness, He's no Mitt Romney.

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Speaker 1: Very good, very good looking man. He looks fake, which

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Speaker 1: probably is appropriate, but I mean, he looks like the

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Speaker 1: guy somebody described him as the guy who looks like

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Speaker 1: he should be inside of the fake photo. For we're

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Speaker 2: Guys, and so we get you know, who's the handsomest

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Speaker 1: Clay? You know, oh, that's an interesting question. Best looking

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Speaker 1: man right now currently holding political office? Well, Mitt Romney

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Speaker 2: I mean, for his age, Trump is very handsome, that's

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Speaker 2: it is true.

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Speaker 1: For his age. He's very handsome for an eight nearly

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Speaker 1: eighty year old man. Trump is handsome. I would say,

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Speaker 1: probably best looking man in politics right now. You're really

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Speaker 1: thinking about, well, get I'm gonna get roasted if I

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Speaker 1: picked the wrong person. So obviously youth factors in here.

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Speaker 1: So being younger is going to in general, in general

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Speaker 2: Some people like to get older.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe i'd probably go Senator Josh Hawley. I think

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Speaker 2: Well, what I would not have get? We gotta get

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Speaker 2: just Alli on the show. Give him his prize.

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Speaker 1: I Well, I'm thinking who else would you go with?

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's in good shape, relatively young guy, tall, dark, handsome.

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Speaker 1: I think i'd have to go Senator Hawley. Media, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna have fun with this. Good headlined Clay Travis analyzes

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Speaker 1: attractiveness of men. Well, evidently I can't be trusted if

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Speaker 1: I'm saying JFK is good looking? Jay, do you disagree

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Speaker 1: with this? JFK is the most attractive American president ever.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna go like Millard Fillmore, You're just gonna throw

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Speaker 1: it's JFK. I don't think there's a tough, tough second

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Speaker 2: A lot of people, I'm a lot of people would

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Speaker 2: argue Barack Obama's good looking. Just throwing that out there,

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Speaker 2: Barack Obama.

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Speaker 1: Wasn't good I'm not gonna dispute that decent looking guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is where Nancy was it Nancy yesterday

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Speaker 1: who got so mad about our Kamala Harris discussion. Being

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Speaker 1: good looking is an incredible asset in the television era

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Speaker 1: as it pertains to politicians male or female. I mean,

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Speaker 2: William Howard Taft would have a harder time now than

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Speaker 1: Just Chris Christie is never going to get elected president

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Speaker 2: All Right, I gotta about Kamala or I'm gonna start

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Speaker 2: getting blamed. I'm gonna start getting the tell Clay. Why

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Speaker 1: All right? Zick So jfk is the best looking president ever.

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Speaker 1: Everyone who disagrees is wrong. Josh Holly is the best

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Speaker 1: is the best looking man in television right now.

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Speaker 2: News of the Day, Clay Kamala Harris, Yes.

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris, best looking black Indian woman to ever run

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Speaker 1: for president ever.

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Speaker 1: Not a lot of competition, not a lot of competition

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Speaker 2: To stop letting them eights, then all them ads get

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Speaker 2: on political handsomeness flooded. That is all completely, That's all

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Speaker 2: You's talking about the just the issues crowd, right if

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Speaker 1: Wants to tell you this buck just the issues. If

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Speaker 1: Just people don't come for that. We're gonna give it

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Speaker 1: but you also have to have the sizzle, and sometimes

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Speaker 1: the sizzle goes in directions you don't anticipate. We are

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Speaker 1: deluged with good looking politicians, a lot of people very

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Speaker 2: I'm just telling you. I was like, let's play. Let's

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Speaker 2: let's refocus here on Kamala. The borders are and the

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Speaker 2: failures thereof, and all we're getting on phone calls and

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Speaker 2: emails is quiet. Buck, we need to talk more about

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Speaker 2: whether JFK or Nixon was actually more handsome.

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Speaker 1: Let's have some on with some of the VIP emails

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Speaker 1: which are deluged in right now. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: out there, big fans of JD Vance VIP listener Devin

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Speaker 1: Carol says. Senator John Thune from South Dakota is the

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Speaker 1: most handsome. Billy says, Unfortunately it's Gavin Newsom. Gavin might

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Speaker 1: after the short romance you guys had on air. It's true,

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Speaker 1: Jeff says Senator Hally Clay. My friend who was your

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Speaker 1: She's written back in she wants us to know, Buck,

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Speaker 1: you missed the point completely. If anyone bits vote solely

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Speaker 1: based on looks they're dumber than Kamala. Informed voters consider

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Speaker 1: mur is very good looking.

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Speaker 1: John Kennedy and says, I shook his hand and looked

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Speaker 1: A guy guy says Reagan's more handsome, had some than JFK.

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Speaker 1: And Dave says Bill Clinton better looking than JFK.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, come on, come on, just have a

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Speaker 2: little bit decency, pie eating contest, give me a break.

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Speaker 2: No way from Nebraska, just letting down the whole Cornhusker state.

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Speaker 2: Even even Bill Clinton listening right now, is just rolling

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Speaker 2: his eyes. I mean, he's not better looking than JFK.

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Speaker 1: JFK was real handsome. Even Monica Lewinsky, she would have

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Speaker 2: How are we going to solve the fate of the

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Speaker 1: Well, rally, we'll have a really good looking Republican candidate

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Speaker 1: good looking. We still got to get into a couple

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Speaker 1: but also the protests that happened after NET talk.

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Speaker 2: On the protest, because that's meaning, I mean, this is crazy.

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Speaker 3: Hmm.

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Speaker 1: Interesting, Sunday hang with Clay and Bucks.

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Speaker 4: Just think about it.

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Speaker 3: So we want to ban assault weapons and they want

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Speaker 2: Honestly, guys, we just have to defeat Kamala Harris because

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Speaker 2: I don't know if I can handle four years of

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Speaker 1: I'm will we will.

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Speaker 2: All look back, Clay on the days of Biden's stammering,

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Speaker 2: dementia gibberish stuff and say that was far preferable to

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Speaker 2: I also find it particularly loathsome that she perpetuates this

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Speaker 2: to a ten year old. That doesn't mean you're banning Playboy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: argue I haven't even seen a Republican ever make this analogy,

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Speaker 1: Movies aren't banned, but there are age appropriate guidelines for

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Speaker 1: what is Twister is probably PG thirteen, Right, Twister's probably

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Speaker 1: not banning. The movies aren't banned. There's PG, there's G,

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Speaker 2: It's just it's such a lie. I don't know the

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Speaker 2: fact that they keep saying it. I even remember I

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Speaker 2: Schwartzman Library, which is the giant New York public It's oh,

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Speaker 2: it's where the Ghostbusters movie starts. The original Ghostbuster is

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Speaker 2: that library. It's a giant it's actually beautiful, and it's

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Speaker 2: at conservatives. But we're not banning any books. So they're

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Speaker 2: living in this fantasy land of we're telling you that books.

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Speaker 2: They're the ones that actually want to rewrite Shakespeare because

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Speaker 2: it's offensive. They're the ones that want to change great

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Speaker 2: works of literature because it has words in it that

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Speaker 2: are racist and you can't even read the words, so

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Speaker 2: it's also dishonest. But anyway, Kamala Harris, she'll say anything

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Speaker 2: she has absolutely no there's no ethics. And how she's

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Speaker 2: gonna run this campaign, we all know that.

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Speaker 1: Sunday drop within buck.

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Speaker 2: We got our friend Tammy Bruce in the mix right now.

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Speaker 2: She is a Fox News contributor, New York Times bestselling author.

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Speaker 2: Her new book, Fear Itself, just comes out this week.

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Speaker 4: It is out today today.

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Speaker 1: Today.

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Speaker 2: I said, this week so technically correct, but today much

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Speaker 2: ye even better, phenomenal. So Tammy Fear Itself exposing the

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Speaker 2: Left's mind killing agenda. That is Tammy's new book out today.

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Speaker 2: Everyone get yourself a copy. I've got my copy right

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Speaker 2: here in my studio in Miami. Tammy, I'm looking forward

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Speaker 2: to diving into it. I've read, you know, the first

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Speaker 2: few pages. I have a sense of where it's going.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you're gonna tell me that when the

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Speaker 2: left says that the future is basically up in flames

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Speaker 2: because of climate change, their agenda.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know this is it's a first of all,

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Speaker 5: we all know COVID is the best most immediate example

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Speaker 5: planned for us. But this is a book that you know,

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Speaker 5: we've all known something's not right. We've known it for

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Speaker 5: a very long time pre COVID. It starts with, you know,

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Speaker 5: political correctness, where you have to not maybe say certain words,

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Speaker 5: and then we get into identity politics, where it's about

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Speaker 5: or whatever that you have to think about. Suddenly we're

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Speaker 5: being divided up into you know, God help us into

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Speaker 5: balkanize little groups which you know are easier to hate on.

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Speaker 4: And then we get.

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Speaker 5: Into the cancel culture, and you're going to get fired

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Speaker 5: going to end in twelve years if you don't stop

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Speaker 5: breathing and using straws. It's insane. But there is a

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Speaker 5: method to this madness. And my message to everyone, but

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Speaker 5: you know their message is all.

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Speaker 4: Of you are a problem.

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Speaker 3: It.

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Speaker 5: Do nothing because you're you're destroying the planet and humanity

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Speaker 5: as we know it. Leave it to us, your betters,

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Speaker 5: and we'll take care of it, and we'll make sure

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Speaker 5: is all of that fear, that chronic fear, the mass anxiety.

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Speaker 4: Is artificial. None of it is natural.

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Speaker 5: It is not organic, it's not a new normal, and

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Speaker 5: it is not inevitable. It is the kind of thing

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Speaker 5: you through. And the thing they do it because fear,

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Speaker 5: if it's transitory, and it helps you make decisions about

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Speaker 5: It makes you unable to make decisions based on the

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Speaker 5: be punished, you begin to obey. And it's very similar

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Speaker 5: it is it informs everything the left does, and without

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Speaker 5: the individual American being trained and it's look, the human

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Speaker 4: It's brainwashing. There's gaslighting.

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Speaker 5: We're being trained to because we don't know what the

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Speaker 5: say nothing if it's too dangerous to speak. You stop

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Speaker 5: thinking about the issues themselves. The bad economy adds more fear.

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Speaker 5: You then have no money to defend yourself or to

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Speaker 4: Politics, no food, you don't know what the food's.

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Speaker 5: Going to be on the table adds to the fear.

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Speaker 5: The nature of yes, losing your job or being called

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Speaker 5: the cancel culture. You know, all of it is meant,

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Speaker 5: You know, the gays now don't. The game mafia don't

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Speaker 5: know I'm also I'm a gay woman, so everybody can

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Speaker 5: calm down in that regard. But this is for me

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Speaker 5: after having been on the left. We can fight this

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Speaker 5: and it can be defeated easily once you see it.

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Speaker 5: It's the difference of when you think there's a lion

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Speaker 5: Everything is fine, but you have to have the light on.

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Speaker 5: I want this book to do that for people. It

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Speaker 5: of packs for people to make with themselves. The first one, you, guys,

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Speaker 5: is not allowing strangers to tell you who you are,

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Speaker 5: know you're not a bigot, and you're not a sexist,

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Speaker 4: That it. Treat it like if somebody.

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Speaker 5: Called you a cocker spaniel, would you immediately look at

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Speaker 5: And that's every accusation the Left makes has to be

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Speaker 5: of techniques with which we can use to break the spell,

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Speaker 5: as I put it, and we're going to have to

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Speaker 5: because all of this identity politics and attacks and violence

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Speaker 2: Tammy Bruce, everybody, Fear Itself is the book, Tammy, sounds

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Speaker 2: like compelling stuff. Congrats, thank you on publishing today.

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Speaker 5: I don't have any I don't have an opinion, as

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Speaker 5: you can tell. So I'm glad, thank you, I'm grateful

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Speaker 5: you guys let me on.

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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, and we hope that you rock it up

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Speaker 2: the bestseller chart, so we'll check in on that. We'll

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Speaker 2: have a link up to the book at clayanbuck dot com.

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Speaker 2: Fear Itself. Thanks so much, Dan, Thank you, sir,