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Speaker 4: a and a pleasure. But this has backstory to it

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Speaker 4: and we love the backstory. So Mark Cuban shout out

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Speaker 4: to Mark.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the first of our billionaire editions.

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Speaker 4: The first, the first billionaire to come on off platform.

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Speaker 4: And he when he came on ey L, he spoke

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Speaker 4: about a company that he invested in called Twisted Up,

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Speaker 4: the well and fast forward a year and some change,

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Speaker 4: we are interviewing the partners of that company, Twisted Up,

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Speaker 4: Noel and Ace. So not only are they the first

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Speaker 4: company that we've had they have hair products right.

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Speaker 2: In the hair industry.

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Speaker 5: First company.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we had Wade who had some products here, but

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Speaker 2: Way the barber. Yeah you know bro, Yeah, man, you

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Speaker 2: know I met him when I was first starting the

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Speaker 2: the hair units. Man. Yeah, I didn't get one. Just

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Speaker 4: But the hair industry is a billion dollar industry, especially

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Speaker 4: for black people, black women, black men, huge, huge industry. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 4: we don't own vast majority of hair products. The hair

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Speaker 4: So this is going to be a dope, dope conversation.

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Speaker 4: So first and foremost, thank you guys for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate it having us.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, but the introduction, man, So let's go. I'm

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Speaker 2: going to say this right now, eyo, Noble Peace Price

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Speaker 5: Put it out there.

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Speaker 4: You have it, ladies and gentlemen. So let's get into this.

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Speaker 4: I want to talk about Twisted Up. But before that,

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Speaker 2: What is this? It was something that birthed out of

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Speaker 2: My hair is maden. But I wanted to figure out

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Speaker 2: Like what is that? Bro? So I just wanted something

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Speaker 4: So all right, how did you come up with the idea?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's your shrinking man, it's a it's a small

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I was using a tennis racket for about

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Speaker 2: three years to do my hair. So you were walking

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Speaker 4: I love entrepreneurship because it's all about innovation and innovation

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Speaker 2: Can't take credit for that. Bro, My cousin. My cousin

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Speaker 2: So can you can you show how do you do this? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You can you just pick out your hair or just

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Speaker 2: these twists. Man, Like it just twisted up. How your

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Speaker 2: hair twisted? Right now? Yeah? From an afro to a twist.

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Speaker 2: We got before and after shots. She can go on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: and it's just it's just crazy, Like, uh, the story

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Speaker 3: I used to teach for Yeah, I used a real

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Speaker 3: like you're going out at night, Like I'm gonna have

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Speaker 2: So I had one in my car. So like when

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Speaker 7: I was giving them buckets. By the way, reference.

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Speaker 2: He was like, Yo, how do you get your hair

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Speaker 2: the idea of drinking it. And I was like, bro,

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Speaker 2: but you can't tell like nobody right because I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to figure this out. He's like, all right, what what

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Speaker 2: is it? You know, we went to the locker room.

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Speaker 2: Quick tennis racker, bro. Because for me, it was a necessity, man,

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Speaker 2: Like I I wanted to wear my hair naturally and

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Speaker 2: I was tired of putting the texturizers in my hair

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Speaker 2: and I just I wanted my hair to be done,

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Speaker 2: and it worked, like in a minute, two minutes, my

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Speaker 2: hair being short. I've never had that, Like even picking

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Speaker 2: twist it. Oh no, I sponge used to sponge the

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Speaker 2: thing with the kids using Yeah, my only thing is

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Speaker 2: have you ever seen like a black sponge? Like the

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Speaker 2: of heides the dirt. And again I'm not talking like

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Speaker 2: messing the company, Like I love the product. Without it,

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Speaker 2: needed a better mouse trap for me. I was replacing

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Speaker 2: it way too much. I was spending somewhere north of

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Speaker 2: and then I was spending anywhere between ten and fifteen

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Speaker 2: I'm spent one hundred bucks on my hair and it's

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Speaker 5: When they do it in the barbershop, I'm not sure

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Speaker 5: if it's the you know, the most.

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Speaker 3: Hygienic thing to do, right, because it's like, you get

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Speaker 3: a cut, they put the sponge in my head.

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Speaker 2: My son gets the cut, they put the sponge in

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Speaker 2: his clean the United States, every state has a fine

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Speaker 2: for reusing it. In the state of California, it's a

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty dollars five.

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Speaker 5: So you can't use So if he gets a cut,

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Speaker 5: they have to use a new one for me.

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Speaker 2: Correct. If they get caught we using it, it's a

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Speaker 2: two hundred and fifty dollars fine in the state of California.

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Speaker 2: Every single state has a fine.

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Speaker 4: So all right, yeah, because my son doesn't use this one,

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Speaker 4: he just picks his hair out use it before.

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Speaker 2: No, So bro, I get you one so the house

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Speaker 2: appreciate it. So this is like the new afro pick.

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Speaker 2: It's the modern day afro pick. Afro pick, but it

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Speaker 2: gets you. The curls at the top gets you. That's

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Speaker 2: to look at everybody wants.

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Speaker 8: That's kind of yeah, that's kind of I think it

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Speaker 8: was like a Nick Young like Swaggy pe when he

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Speaker 7: And then I think Usher his album.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, the fade, all the all the ball players

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Speaker 2: have their hair like that. It's like, how big can

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Speaker 2: you have it? Now?

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Speaker 4: Because I see some dudes ins like it.

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Speaker 2: Probably want to like they see.

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Speaker 7: Some of them when they that long. No, you don't really.

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Speaker 7: When it's that long, you don't have to maintain it.

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Speaker 8: But when you got hair like our size, Like if

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Speaker 5: But you had a six figure job, you work, you.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you this, Without Ace, this is probably

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Speaker 8: It was just one of them things where you know,

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Speaker 8: One time we had no units. We was in a

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Speaker 5: So you guys know each other since like childhood or.

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Speaker 5: When he was giving them buckets.

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Speaker 2: Correct, right, But also a tennis record is for the

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Speaker 2: But a tennis record was never intended to twist your hair.

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Speaker 2: Utility for it was never to use to twist your hair.

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Speaker 2: Any any any shape that encloses a woven material that

439
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Speaker 2: is usage twist hair, you are infringing on my patent.

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Speaker 5: We come from New York.

441
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know.

442
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Speaker 3: You got a great story about the city of New York.

443
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Speaker 3: We got a lot of salons, a lot lot. Can

444
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Speaker 3: you tell us about your trip to New York?

445
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Speaker 2: You know, I love I love New York. But again,

446
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:33,160
Speaker 2: to any entrepreneur, you can probably relate to this. Uh

447
00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:35,880
Speaker 2: it's your baby. This is my first thing that I've

448
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 2: ever created from scratch, and to see it get knocked off,

449
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 2: it started to affect me. And as a man, I

450
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 2: couldn't just I couldn't look at myself in the mirror,

451
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Speaker 2: and I was having a conversation with face and uh,

452
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Speaker 2: what's the name of that movie taken? Taken? Yeah, I

453
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:57,359
Speaker 2: will find you. Yeah that speech when it's darted and

454
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Speaker 2: I will kill you. You know, there's a certain skills

455
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Speaker 2: that you know when you wanna find you and like

456
00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 2: you don't want to, so like I went on, I

457
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 2: went on a mission. Man, I went to New York.

458
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Speaker 2: Was the first stop. Shout out to every single person

459
00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,600
Speaker 2: from the bottom of my heart that DM the page

460
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:14,160
Speaker 2: told us like, hey, you know, here's knockoffs here, here's

461
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Speaker 2: knockoffs hair. And when I landed in New York, I

462
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Speaker 2: just didn't know that. You guys just have a just

463
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,800
Speaker 2: so many beauty supply stores in one area. I thought

464
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,639
Speaker 2: I would be driving a lot, right, So when I

465
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 2: got a location, I would go to that location and

466
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Speaker 2: I'm like, Yo, there's like thirty other beauty supply let

467
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Speaker 2: me just let me just walk into these and see

468
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Speaker 2: if this store has it. Chances are maybe another ten

469
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Speaker 2: percent here has it. And I would just walk in

470
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Speaker 2: and walk out and try to find it, calmly, have

471
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Speaker 2: a conversation with the owners, let them know, hey, I'm

472
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Speaker 2: not after you. I'm just trying to figure out where

473
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 2: this is coming from. I had to collect the evidence,

474
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,200
Speaker 2: and once I ended up collecting the evidence, I ended up,

475
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 2: you know, soon four main distributors for a non disclosed

476
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 2: amount that we won. So you're pulling up on people, Yeah,

477
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,960
Speaker 2: I put I put up on I don't even know

478
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Speaker 2: how many.

479
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Speaker 8: Shout out to the people out here in Cali too,

480
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,880
Speaker 8: because there was some knockoffs down in my area too,

481
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 8: and people going to the store and Hey, you know

482
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Speaker 8: this store is coming, so you gave you the papers and.

483
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, was over one hundred stories in New York City. No,

484
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 2: just in New York, New Jersey, in North and South Carolina, Virginia, Florida, Texas, Michigan, California.

485
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,480
Speaker 2: I went to over one hundred stores in three weeks.

486
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Speaker 5: And you're handing out ceasing desist letters.

487
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 2: Ceasing ceasing assist letters, confiscating the knockoffs. Letting them know

488
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Speaker 2: what they're doing is violating a US trademark law as

489
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 2: well as a US utility patent law. Feel free to

490
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Speaker 2: contact your lawyers. I am going to be starting a

491
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Speaker 2: class action. I don't want you to be involved. Just

492
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,399
Speaker 2: let me know where you got it from. So you

493
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 2: got a class action lawsuit. I wanted to start one

494
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 2: that was that was my thing. I wanted to start like, yo,

495
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: you're selling something that is you're infringing on the United

496
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Speaker 2: States trademark and patent. I wanted to start a class action,

497
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Speaker 2: but I don't want to involve you guys. So to

498
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,280
Speaker 2: make this easier so you don't get sued, I would

499
00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 2: just delist you guys. Just let me know where you

500
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Speaker 2: got it from.

501
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 3: Walking in the stores handling the season and desist letters,

502
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Speaker 3: hoping that everything goes well.

503
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Speaker 2: No, we got cops called on me.

504
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,159
Speaker 3: Cops called that's what I'm thinking. How I mean, you're

505
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 3: in New York, so like you're taking things off the shells. Like,

506
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,439
Speaker 3: now y'all can't sell this same more. This obviously probably

507
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 3: wasn't always a smooth process.

508
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 2: No, man, we got we got cops called on me,

509
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: uh maybe like ten twelve times, and it was and

510
00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 2: the cops said, you know, you can either do it

511
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 2: or you know you can face the law. And when

512
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 2: the cops came, they still gave me the product because

513
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: you're breaking the law. Like I'm not trying to be

514
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 2: a bad person, like you did not know that you

515
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 2: will breaking the law. You now know. I can't normally

516
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 2: leave here and let you still sell it because you're

517
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 2: going to be breaking the law. You now are aware.

518
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 2: So give me the product, sign this letter you won't

519
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,200
Speaker 2: be sued, and let me know where you got it from.

520
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 3: And so you find that that part out right, You

521
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,120
Speaker 3: find out who's manufacturing, who's the trip and it now

522
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 3: there's a lawsuit going towards them.

523
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Speaker 2: Yes, so that's the beauty part. And I want everyone

524
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Speaker 2: to really understand this. A lot of people say that

525
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: I pending does not protect you, and that's only like

526
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: half truth because it does. So if I send you

527
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 2: a letter and I say, hey, my product is pending,

528
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 2: and you continue to sell, you're not breaking any laws

529
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 2: because it's not granted. But you have been informed that

530
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,760
Speaker 2: I have a pride for a patent and it's pending.

531
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 2: If it does get published, I can come after you

532
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: for damages when that letter was sent to you while

533
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: I was in the pending process, because you were informed

534
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 2: that there was an application and you may be breaking

535
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: the law that gets granted. You chose to roll the dice.

536
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 2: So the beauty thing about it is that again you

537
00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: have a great lawyer. The distributors that were bringing it

538
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,600
Speaker 2: into the states, they all got ceased to assist letters

539
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,640
Speaker 2: long before I did the tour, long before my patent

540
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: was granted. So because I had evidence and it was dated,

541
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 2: all of them had to pay. Where do you distribute

542
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 2: said it into the states? Where are they coming from?

543
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: Just so how well, yeah, so, how how the beauty

544
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: supply chain works. It's like lead distributors, distributors and beauty

545
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,439
Speaker 2: supply stories. Right, So there's a big guy that we

546
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: sells to, like these distributors that sells to, like the

547
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 2: beauty supply stories. So all the knockofs were coming from

548
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 2: obviously Asia, you know, China and somewhere in Korea, and

549
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 2: they would just ship it out here.

550
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:21,120
Speaker 5: So you received damages.

551
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, And a lot of people just think

552
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 2: entrepreneurship is like it's my life and it's there's a

553
00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 2: lot of work, but that's part of it too. And

554
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, you have to be able to

555
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: understand the law. Yeah, you have to have a good lawyer.

556
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 2: You have to you know, right, lawyer? Can I get

557
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: my lawyer? A shout up? Yeah, what's that? John? John D.

558
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 2: Tran Patent Law Group, John D. Tran shout out to

559
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Speaker 2: you man. I love you very much, thank you for

560
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,320
Speaker 2: all you do. Was he based out of Irvine, California? Okay?

561
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah me my law group r H E m A.

562
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Speaker 2: He's going to be a lot of business. So but

563
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 2: not And that's it.

564
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 4: That's another like revenue stream too, Like I'm saying you

565
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 4: can potentially can play running on that. So it's like

566
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 4: find entrepreneurs it's not just a matter of just loving

567
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 4: your product and selling your product and market it.

568
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: You got to protect it and be willing to fight

569
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 2: protect it. You got to be educated. You got it.

570
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 2: That's all part of business as well. It's a lot

571
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 2: that goes into business. Yeah, that's It's a lot. So

572
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,959
Speaker 2: we when do we start? What's the big moment?

573
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 3: Obviously we got the shark tingm but you guys will

574
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 3: make the money for Yeah, so how do we start

575
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 3: making money? We go in the barbershops saying you got

576
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 3: to test the sell. Do we get a store, frond?

577
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:34,919
Speaker 3: What are we doing?

578
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 5: How are we getting into people's hands?

579
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, again, I don't know. I just I just

580
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: got to give shout outs to people because I can't

581
00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 2: I can't take full credit for this. Right. I'm listening

582
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: to uh Gary Gary Vee, and I'm trying to figure

583
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,119
Speaker 2: out my first year we did one hundred and fifteen

584
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 2: thousand and sells, but we didn't make much in the

585
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 2: price point on the actual with taxes and shipping is

586
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 2: twenty four ninety five straight to your house and you

587
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: never have to replace it. Come to a thirty day

588
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 2: manufacturer warranty. And you know that was all day bro.

589
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,719
Speaker 2: Never got to replace it one time by all day

590
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: all day.

591
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Speaker 5: Those are the sists.

592
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 2: But I was trying to figure out, like yo, I

593
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,040
Speaker 2: did a lot of traveling. I went to the East

594
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 2: Coast a lot, and we did a lot of hair shows.

595
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: And I was like, Yo, this is a lot of

596
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: work for a little bit of money. Like I gotta,

597
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: I gotta make a pivot. And I'm listening to Gary

598
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 2: Vee and he says a thing that like, yo, if

599
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 2: you are an entrepreneur and you're not doing Facebook or

600
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 2: Instagram marketing, you are creating career suicide. And I was like,

601
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,119
Speaker 2: all right, let me, let me google and YouTube how

602
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: to do this? And I googled on YouTube how to

603
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: do this? And my first my trial run was like

604
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 2: one month, and then my first at back my first

605
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: two months. We did three hundred thousand dollars in two months. Wow,

606
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,400
Speaker 2: just doing Facebook and Facebook, Instagram ass bro just it

607
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 2: blew it, blew the ceiling out of the water. And

608
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: then China shut down. Everything was made in the United

609
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: States except the wire mesh. It was coming from China.

610
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 2: And then China had a pollution and I couldn't get

611
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: product for like two months, and I decided, you know,

612
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 2: I want to go on Shark Tank. I want to

613
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: see if I can actually get a deal and get

614
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: the mentorship, and I got rejected. I once went back,

615
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 2: the second time, got rejected, went back the third time,

616
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 2: got rejected, and then the fourth time when I showed up,

617
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 2: I didn't even have to pitch because the person that

618
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 2: was interviewing me, her coworker, used my cone and he

619
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: knew exactly what it was, and he was like, you're

620
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: going through so what's the process to get on Shark Tank?

621
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Speaker 2: And there's so much that that we can't say, we're

622
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 2: not allowed to talk about it. You signed a lot

623
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: of like the nbas of the process, but I would

624
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,560
Speaker 2: tell you this. I think there's like fifty thousand people

625
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: that apply and maybe like eight hundred get callbacks, and

626
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 2: then out of that maybe like three hundred gets to

627
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 2: actually pitch, and it's not called the deal show. I

628
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: thought this just like fully bs, Like like I thought

629
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: epould have got a deal, got the air, but like, no,

630
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Speaker 2: that's not the case, bro, Earners, what's up?

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Speaker 2: They have to air some people that don't get deals, right,

678
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: So you're not guaranteed to air just because you have

679
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: a deal. So even if you get a deal, you

680
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: still might not get on television, correct, Which again I

681
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: thought it was just total bs coming kyo. How how

682
00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: are you going to have these these people that are

683
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 2: worth millions of dollars, invests hundreds and thousands of dollars

684
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: in the company, and they don't get the publicity. But

685
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 2: you have Shark Tank, which is a TV show, and

686
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: then you have the business side, which is two completely

687
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: different things.

688
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 4: So boy, so going on Shark Tank, you can't talk

689
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 4: about the offer because that's public right, correct?

690
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: So what was that? Anybody that didn't watch your episode?

691
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 2: It was two hundred and twenty five thousand for fifteen

692
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 2: percent two.

693
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,479
Speaker 4: Hundred a quarter million for fifteen percent of your company.

694
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 4: And that was damon John and Mark Cuban.

695
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: That was the offer. That's not what I got. Yeah,

696
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: you give So what ended up being negotiated was two

697
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five thousand for twenty five percent, twelve

698
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 2: and a half to Damon, twelve and a half to Mark.

699
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: Oh you you wanted fifteen they wanted. Yeah, I value

700
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 2: my company just over a million. They gave me in

701
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 2: just I think nine hundred and something thousand valuation. But

702
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 2: I wanted the mentorship. And again I'm very big on culture.

703
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: To get Damon, to get Mark, I couldn't.

704
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you like went into it with that those two

705
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 5: in mind.

706
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: That's all I wanted because I knew Robert was going

707
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: to go with it because he wouldn't understand the product.

708
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 2: I knew Laurie may like it, but she wants things

709
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: for the masses. And regardless, no bad beef. But like

710
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: I believe you got to be able to have a conversation.

711
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: I don't feel like me and mister wonderfer where ever

712
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 2: get along. So yeah, I'm just being honest.

713
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Speaker 3: I want to come to you for a second because

714
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 3: we spoke to in a while. He was doing real estate.

715
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 3: He's making six figures, but you worked for free. So

716
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Speaker 3: I'm interested in seeing what you were doing during this

717
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 3: time while you're not making any money from twitterelve to say,

718
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: you know what, I believe in my friend, I'm gonna

719
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 3: do this.

720
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Speaker 5: I don't care what it takes.

721
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: Like.

722
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Speaker 8: Like like job wise, what I was doing, Yeah, oh man,

723
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 8: I was doing. I was doing and everything kind of

724
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 8: just depends on the month or the year. But I

725
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 8: was coaching basketball. I model on the side too. I

726
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 8: was refing basketball and football, and then I was working

727
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 8: at the Boys and Girls Club, So I was kind

728
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 8: of just you know, bouncing all over the place really

729
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 8: and then the free part. You know, I never even

730
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Speaker 8: really asked for no money. He just kept he said, hey, man,

731
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 8: you know we after Shark Tank. You're gonna get a

732
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 8: pay raise, but you know I want I mean, when

733
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 8: you when you have a like an entrepreneurship, if you

734
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 8: can have like somebody by your side that can, you know,

735
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 8: do the dirty work and get you know, anything that

736
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 8: you need, you need that it's kind of like a

737
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,919
Speaker 8: basketball team that start player that's gonna just get down

738
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 8: and dirty and not care about the lights and not

739
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 8: care about the fame. And that's kind of how it happened.

740
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 8: And then we just ended up here like I look

741
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 8: up like four years later, I'm like wow, Like we.

742
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 7: Went on Shark Tank.

743
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 8: Like it don't even feel it, don't even feel like

744
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 8: it because I'm just here just for the for the

745
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 8: you know, partnership, and just because that's my bro.

746
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 2: So everybody has a part to play.

747
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 4: It's like Ben Wallace like, you know, yeah, made it

748
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 4: to the Hall of Fame, rebounds like you know what

749
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,280
Speaker 4: I mean, defense Dennis rob Dennis Robin. You know, everybody's

750
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 4: not a scorer, everybody's not gonna be a superstar player.

751
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 4: But you need people to do different things to win

752
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 4: a championship.

753
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 7: Plus, when your mind is right, when you're doing it

754
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 7: for the sake of.

755
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 8: You know, you you you really love your product, or

756
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 8: you believe in someone else's product that they're rocking with,

757
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 8: like the sky.

758
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 2: Is the limit.

759
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 8: But if you're doing it in the sense of we're

760
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 8: gonna make X amount of money, or we're gonna go

761
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 8: on this TV show or we're going to do this podcast,

762
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 8: then you're probably in entrepreneurship for the wrong reasons.

763
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: Facts.

764
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 4: So going back to this Shark ten conversation, all right,

765
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 4: you get the deal, a quarter million, twenty five percent

766
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 4: of your company, All right, Now what happens the next day,

767
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 4: like when you actually start working with the guys.

768
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 2: So this is why I feel like I think Mark

769
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 2: really vised with me because when I got it right,

770
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 2: well we got the deal. It's stuff to do the

771
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: diligence right. So they go through your I don't know

772
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: if anyone's ever been audited, but like I don't advise

773
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: it like it's a it's a headache. They comb through

774
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: like your financials to make sure what you said, what

775
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 2: you represented was true. Oh, they can do the deal

776
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 2: and still not do the deal correct. They have to

777
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 2: do their due diligence. So it's just a handshake. So

778
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: then they go and they take your your twelve month

779
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: trailing you know ebit, of your p and os, your

780
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 2: cash flow statements, and they come through it and they

781
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 2: make sure that what you said was accurate before they

782
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: give you that money. So after we shook hands and

783
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 2: got the deal, the money didn't hit my account for

784
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 2: like maybe six or seven months later. But when it

785
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 2: hit my account, I like tear it up because it's

786
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: it's real, right. I tear it up for like about

787
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,799
Speaker 2: a day, and then the next day I sent him

788
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: an email and I was like, yo, like I have

789
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: an obligation to pay this back to you, Like it's

790
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: not I haven't made it yet. There's no like whatever

791
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 2: y'all need to do, Like the mentorship starts now and

792
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: we have the conversation. Daymy and I have the conversation.

793
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 2: We talked about the strategy. We figured out what we

794
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 2: were going to do, how are we going to execute,

795
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: and where we're going to spend the money. How much

796
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 2: money is being allocated to marketing, which is very huge,

797
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: like cost of acquisition is. I don't care what product

798
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: you're selling. It could be a very good product or

799
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 2: it can be a horrible product. There's a lot of

800
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: people that have great products that make no money. There's

801
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: a lot of people that have horrible products that make

802
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: a gripload of money. And it's marketing. It's how are

803
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 2: you going to get customers onto your your product, how

804
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 2: people are going to see you? And if you have

805
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 2: the best product in the world and no eyes, you're

806
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: not selling nothing. So what was your marketing strategy? Uh,

807
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: you got to figure out how to have that conversation

808
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: with our with our customers. Right. So my demographic depending

809
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: where I'm selling, right, if it's barbers, if it's beauty

810
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: supply stores, or if it's to the culture, I have

811
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 2: to figure out what makes them click and buy, and

812
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 2: for the culture, it was providing something that was funny

813
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: but also educational. And when I did that, my best

814
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: performing ad your eight is me dressing up in a

815
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: lab coat Yeah yeah, and explaining the difference between a

816
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: sponge and a haircomb, right, and it does way better

817
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 2: than any influencer. It does way better than any celebrity

818
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,279
Speaker 2: shout out, and it just works better. So that's me

819
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 2: listening to my audience. They want to understand the difference.

820
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 2: They wanted to be educated on the on the process,

821
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: and then they wanted to be funny. And once I

822
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: figured out that little snippet, I just kept pumping the ass.

823
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: That was like that and it just sky's wass a

824
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 2: limit find information.

825
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 3: So after the first year that you've now got the investment,

826
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,479
Speaker 3: how did did sales take off?

827
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 2: Like he had no life? Yeah? Man, that was.

828
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 7: Working.

829
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were working.

830
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 6: Man.

831
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 2: We couldn't keep up with demand. So Ace and myself

832
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 2: and one of my other boys would be in the

833
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: manufacturer after the manufacturer ran our units and after hours

834
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: to run more units because we just needed to keep

835
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: up with Man, it was it was insane. We went

836
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: from three hundred and thirty thousand to like one point

837
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:08,040
Speaker 2: two in a year, like a three hundred x growth,

838
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: and the next year double that, and it just keeps

839
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 2: on growing and growing and growing, and I'm just very

840
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 2: grateful to have this experience in the mentorship.

841
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 3: What was the process of finding a manufacturer, I know

842
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 3: that was early on, but what was the process?

843
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 2: Well? On YouTube, man, there's a university again. Yeah, man,

844
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 2: there's a there's a there's a website that I found

845
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: on Google called thomasinet dot com and it's a manufacturer craigslist.

846
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: It's pretty much just operates like Craigslist, but it's for manufacturers,

847
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 2: and you plug in the material, you plug in your

848
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: zip code, and it spits out in a thirty forty

849
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 2: mile radius, how many manufacturers are around you. And it

850
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,439
Speaker 2: turns out where I lived, I live in a manufactured hub.

851
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 2: Never knew this, Santayana, Tustin. There's like forty different manufacturers

852
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 2: out there. So I was literally like a drive and

853
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 2: a skit to talk through these manufacturers. And I just

854
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: interviewed about ten to fifteen of them, vibe with one

855
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: and be figured out. They took the wheels, they figured

856
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: out what they were going to do and for me,

857
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 2: My biggest thing is communication that I don't I mean,

858
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 2: price points important, but it's not the all ends. Like

859
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 2: I have to be able to talk. I have to

860
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 2: be able to like when when things go sideways, that

861
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: guy got to be able to get you on the

862
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 2: phone and we need to have a conversation. I need

863
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 2: to know why you didn't meet that deadline and I

864
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: need you to have an open and honest conversation with that.

865
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: So as far as the mentorship, you know, what is

866
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Speaker 2: it riceless? What is it like?

867
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Speaker 4: Because you know, obviously it's very rare to have a

868
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 4: billionaire as a mentor a business partner. So what is

869
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 4: some of the key Jim's jewels that you've taken away

870
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 4: from working with Mark?

871
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 2: And what does that mentorship look like? I mean, there's

872
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 2: no secret sauce. He will always say, just work ethic right,

873
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: which I've always had. But watching how he moves and

874
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 2: no matter how much money he has, Mark stays humble,

875
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 2: like the fact that he still gets on the phone

876
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 2: or on an email and has conversations with me outside

877
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: out of twisted up about other venues. Now that I

878
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 2: have money to where to park it, what to do?

879
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 2: Like what are you looking into like it's it's crazy.

880
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 2: And the thing that I take away most from him

881
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 2: time is money like time, Like he has all these companies,

882
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 2: but yet he has like these people that you talk

883
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 2: to that represent him to help solve these problems. And

884
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: if you need him, he's always a phone call or

885
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 2: email away. But like, when you start to grow, you

886
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: want to start to have your money start working for you, right,

887
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: and when you are a billionaire, like you have so

888
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 2: many businesses, right, you have so many revenues of income,

889
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:39,240
Speaker 2: like you want to make sure that you power other people, correct,

890
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 2: do different things to keep your time free, correct, like thanks,

891
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 2: Like there's there's no way that I could still do

892
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 2: real estate and mortgages, but I didn't have my boy

893
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 2: as because Twisted Up would take up way too much

894
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 2: of my time sending two or three hundred orders a day,

895
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: Like how am I supposed to do that? And then

896
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 2: still argue with an underwriter? So is it just you too?

897
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 5: Is there a bigger team?

898
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: So as far as that on every day operations, it's

899
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: me him and then my CPA, and that is it, bro,

900
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: that's it the Big three, the Big three, And it's

901
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 2: an online business. Bro, you run like a two million

902
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 2: dollar operation, and it's crazy because everything is automated. Fulfilment

903
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 2: center is automated right the whole soe he takes care

904
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: of that, right the orders that go out, he takes

905
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 2: care of Instagram, He runs the Instagram page. You keep

906
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 2: producting in the warehouse or it just goes from both.

907
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,680
Speaker 2: So how we have it steppt out. I mean not

908
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 2: to just break down the business, but there's a wholesale side,

909
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 2: there's a retail distribution side, and then there's directed consumer side.

910
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 2: Directed consumer side is all automated, so all handled by

911
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 2: some type of f ffilment center depending on what location

912
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 2: you're ordering from. Whole seal is a little bit more personal,

913
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 2: is automated in the house, so he handles the bruntwork

914
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: of that. I handle the orders, I handle the cells,

915
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 2: and then he packs it and ships it.

916
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 4: So scaling what is some for you moving forward and

917
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 4: scaling and kind of you know, taking into the next level.

918
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 2: Again. I was just say, getting the word out right

919
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,439
Speaker 2: and understanding the customer and figuring out where the brand

920
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: needs to go. It's really sad, right, not to get

921
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 2: too deep in the subject, but like it's twenty twenty

922
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: one right, I believe too. What was it two years ago?

923
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 2: Three years ago? The guy that got.

924
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, that was that was two years ago.

925
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, like two years ago. A guy that was wrestling

926
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: for a championship couldn't wrestle because he had to cut

927
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 2: off his dreads. And then yeah, and then there's a

928
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 2: there's a girl, a couple of African American womens that

929
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 2: lost their jobs because they refused to cut off the braids.

930
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,319
Speaker 2: And South Africa too, they had a girl there.

931
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 8: For a while, I was like actually like doing research

932
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 8: and like you know, posting on a page to like

933
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 8: spread awareness because I feel like that's our kind of

934
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 8: like niche like we you know, we're for the culture.

935
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 2: So yeah, and it's sad that like it wasn't until

936
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 2: like twenty eighteen, like maybe a handful of states passed

937
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: a hair discrimination lifeeah yeah.

938
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 4: But yeah, but like I said, even in black countries Jamaica,

939
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 4: there was okay with a kid got kicked out in

940
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 4: school because he had dreadlocks. South Africa, a girl had

941
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,879
Speaker 4: an afro and she got kicked out of school having

942
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 4: an afro. So it's not even just in white countries,

943
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 4: it's in black countries as.

944
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 2: Well, and what I found out as I started traveling

945
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 2: to the East Coast, especially with the women that choose

946
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 2: to cut their hair and wear it short and wear

947
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: the short and natural, there's a journey behind that, Like

948
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: they they start to have like this self love discovery,

949
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 2: like and it's it kind of brings you like emotional right,

950
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: Like it's it's they find who they are, they accept

951
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,120
Speaker 2: who they are, they love who they are, and they're

952
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 2: not going to change it for nobody, And all of

953
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 2: a sudden, they have this new found confidence and the

954
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 2: same thing with guys. And that's why I'm saying, like,

955
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: what you guys are doing, like this is why I

956
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: just look like what Eyola is doing. There's you're hosting

957
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 2: a show where you have people that look like us.

958
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:55,399
Speaker 2: I have twisted hair, my hair is natural, and I'm

959
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 2: out here making money. I'm a CEO, and you having

960
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 2: people that like it's changed in the narrative of what

961
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: braves conroles African Americans, what that looks like, what that

962
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 2: means for us to make money?

963
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 4: Like it it's empowerment as well, because it's like like

964
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 4: you said, people, it's a way to keep people marginalized

965
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 4: and to it's kind of like another form of oppression

966
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 4: to supremacy, where it's like, in order to be beautiful,

967
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 4: you have to have straight, straight hair. In order to

968
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 4: be professional, you have to have a low hit. Troy,

969
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 4: I'm holding on for their life, Troy.

970
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, dictate the man, stop it fall.

971
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: Long time it was that the Michael Jordan man.

972
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, growing hands, grow up there,

973
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 5: you know.

974
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:48,839
Speaker 2: Get the hoop airing.

975
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, for a long time, it's like for men,

976
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 4: you have to have a fade, you have to have

977
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 4: a low haircut, you know, in order to be quote

978
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 4: unquote a professional. And when you say about it, it's like,

979
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 4: why can't you be a professional with his natural hair

980
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 4: with an afro, with twists, with dreadlocks, with braids, Like

981
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 4: what makes that unprofessional?

982
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: Correct? And you're you're dealing with a society where outside

983
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 2: of this culture, right, they can wear their hair however

984
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,280
Speaker 2: they choose to. I have one style, low right until

985
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 2: this hairstyle came out low right, and again I just

986
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: started traveling to the East Coast. As a culture, our

987
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,720
Speaker 2: style gets appropriated, right, the way we talk our music

988
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: all that. But the one thing that you can't appropriate

989
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: the one thing that you can't mimic is our hair.

990
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 2: It's our hair is unique to us. They've tried it.

991
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 2: See have you seen Have you seen the video? I've

992
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: seen a few videos, the one in the waves. No, no, no, no,

993
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 2: the Asian dude. Yeah, well he got he got the waves.

994
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 2: He got the waves.

995
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 5: Even see your cone rolls, keep your scarecrows.

996
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.

997
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 7: I wake up in the morning, I'm gonna go put

998
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 7: my hair on.

999
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 4: Like Derek had the braids. It just became always so exotic,

1000
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 4: you know, But that was just braids. Like you know

1001
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:07,840
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. It was like whenever somebody of a

1002
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 4: different ethnicissity does that, now it just becomes such an

1003
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 4: amazing look.

1004
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 2: But for us, it's a necessity. It's how we wake

1005
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 2: up and go kiud without that. The coaching knows we

1006
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 2: have like an hour before maintenance. Sleek cute right now.

1007
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 4: You mentioned the East coast. What do you mean by that?

1008
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 4: You said you're traveling on the East coast, vib on

1009
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 4: the West coast.

1010
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 2: I mean back when the when I was using the

1011
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 2: tennis track and then using like the comb to twist

1012
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: my hair like this hairstyle wasn't really like up and

1013
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: coming on the West Coast. Okay, so when I started

1014
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: the company for Fledge in twenty seventeen, like on the

1015
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 2: East Coast, this was huge. The style was big.

1016
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 8: But you'll see it like when they are in the

1017
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 8: comments when people would talk like, oh on the East Coast,

1018
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 8: like we've been doing that way before.

1019
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 2: Way before. The West coast coast. Get catch things late sometimes,

1020
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 2: you know.

1021
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 5: I have my hair like that once upon it I

1022
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 5: think it was high school Mike maybe.

1023
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 8: But it was weird because when you had an afro,

1024
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 8: like you just had it again before the twisted upcomb.

1025
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 8: If you had an hour thro you would just pick

1026
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 8: it out. It wouldn't be messy because your mom won't

1027
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 8: let you have it messy. Your mam would say, hey,

1028
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:06,439
Speaker 8: I need you to pick your hair out.

1029
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 2: But now is that also switched right between the older

1030
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: generation and the younger generation when the older generation still

1031
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: thinks that this is like a nappy messy look is unprofessional,

1032
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 2: and the newer generation is saying no, like it's it's professional.

1033
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: This is this is who we are. It's just how

1034
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 2: my hair looks.

1035
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's a broader conversation that we definitely have

1036
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 4: to have because it's like even when Chris Rock did

1037
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 4: that documentary Good Hair, Oh yeah, and you know it's

1038
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 4: like I said, it's billions of dollars that's spent.

1039
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: But then the psychological is what to look like psychological.

1040
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 4: Aspect of it is and people destroying themselves, putting chemicals

1041
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 4: in their hair and all kinds of stuff where you

1042
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 4: don't even know that the long term effects of what

1043
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 4: you're doing to yourself just to look a certain.

1044
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 2: Way facts and black women have it the hardest. Man. Yeah,

1045
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,840
Speaker 2: they have it the hardest. And it's it's sad. And

1046
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 2: I have a niece and it's just to like see here,

1047
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: reach for like the other doll with straight hair versus

1048
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,240
Speaker 2: the doll that has the afro. Like it's it's like okay,

1049
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: like why and it's just you just look at the

1050
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: television really just try to sit down and like program

1051
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 2: this and you turn on television. All the girls that

1052
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: are on television got straight hair. Yeah? Are you do

1053
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: market just to women? Also? I do. It's another market

1054
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 2: that I'm getting into. It's I want to do it right.

1055
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 2: That's my thing. Like I don't want to disrespect them.

1056
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 2: I want to do it right. I don't want to

1057
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 2: be the guy, the black guy that's speaking for women, right.

1058
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: I want to make sure that whoever I get to

1059
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 2: sponsor that side of the company, they do understand the journey.

1060
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: They do understand the self empowerment, the movement that they're doing,

1061
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: and like God bless them man.

1062
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 3: Like it's I'm thinking now, because like we've been to

1063
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 3: curl Fest. Out to the team over that curl Fest.

1064
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 3: I think this would be great. A lot of women

1065
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,160
Speaker 3: have natural hair, short hair, they want to have the

1066
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 3: curls at the top.

1067
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 5: My sister in law has that haircut. So I'm just like,

1068
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 5: this would be great.

1069
00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:54,120
Speaker 2: Yes, And now I even did a movie. Yeah, yeah,

1070
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: yeah she did. Yeah, she did Napoli. Ever after she

1071
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 2: did in the movie, she cut her hair off and

1072
00:49:59,360 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 2: grew it back.

1073
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 7: They call it like the big chop.

1074
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, the big chop.

1075
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 4: Do you have plans in taking this international or do

1076
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 4: you already have an international?

1077
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? So we got we got some oh oh yeah,

1078
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,959
Speaker 2: all right. Shout out to the jumpers man. Man.

1079
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 8: So the similar way kind of how I jump with

1080
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 8: no weel how he was doing this thing and I'm

1081
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 8: helping him out, like we would get tons of supporters

1082
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 8: on like I geology jumpers.

1083
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 2: That's your community, that's what you call. I just anyone

1084
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 2: that has a vision and you jump, no question, know whatever.

1085
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 2: Like you, I'm gonna ride.

1086
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 7: With you, like I know, like ride or die.

1087
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 2: Like That's why I call my entrepreneur spirit. Like I

1088
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: have an idea, there's no like questioning if it's going

1089
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 2: to work out, if it's not. What if this happens?

1090
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: What if that? I just just jumped do it?

1091
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 8: So a guy he actually is in New York, Leon,

1092
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 8: shout out Leon. He was just supporting us. He was

1093
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 8: like taking pictures of the comb. He would, you know,

1094
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 8: just just vouch for us, Say hey, I need some combs.

1095
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 8: You know, he's taking into his barbershop. And you know,

1096
00:50:58,000 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 8: like a year he went by and me and Leon

1097
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 8: have a relationship, and I'm telling Noel, hey, you need

1098
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 8: to look at this guy Leon. Like this dude, he's

1099
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 8: taking pictures for us and stuff. So not only was

1100
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 8: I employed, Noel ended up employing Leon as like our

1101
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 8: professional photographer to do you know, product shots and stuff

1102
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 8: like that. And then he took he took the comb

1103
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 8: to Guyana and what and he's from there and he

1104
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 8: got his own comb. So it's just like this, but

1105
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 8: it's green and on the cover it has his own

1106
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 8: face on it. But he took the comb there and

1107
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 8: started talking about entrepreneurship there, started putting into the barbershops there,

1108
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,919
Speaker 8: and I thought that was like a real thing, because

1109
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 8: you know they say, like Gez, I put on for

1110
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 8: my city, like he really peeping on for his country.

1111
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 8: So the fact that he jumped and was able to

1112
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 8: get a sally from this and able to you know,

1113
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 8: go back home and teach people about entrepreneurship, I think

1114
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 8: they have it. And there's just one store. They just

1115
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 8: built the store and like he was a partnership of

1116
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 8: that store.

1117
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 7: I forgot the name of the store.

1118
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, but he was a partnership of that store getting

1119
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 8: built and the combs are being sold out of that store.

1120
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 2: Bro. Yes, we're in Canada, we're in Guyana, and we're

1121
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 2: a little bit in Europe, not as big. I did

1122
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 2: a hair shout there by myself, and the market's massive.

1123
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,040
Speaker 2: Where was the hair shot at In the United Kingdom,

1124
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,120
Speaker 2: it's called like Afo Beauty or something like that. In

1125
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: the UK. That was another story for another time. And

1126
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: but I flew out there by myself and.

1127
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 5: Going places by yourself.

1128
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 3: Man.

1129
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 2: I mean, like I said, I'm a jumper bro. Like,

1130
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, what's worse than not

1131
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 2: trying is regret.

1132
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 5: That's the drawing quote. I except not trying, I can

1133
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 5: accept failure. I can't except not trying.

1134
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: I cannot look back at fifteen and be like, Yo,

1135
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 2: I wish I would have done ABC. Like I can

1136
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 2: accept losing everything. I can accept failing. Like what you

1137
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:44,239
Speaker 2: just said. What hurts me the worst. It's like, did

1138
00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 2: you try your hardest? It's like a game. I can

1139
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 2: I'm okay losing the NBA Championship if I played it

1140
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: because I tried. I tried my best. There's nothing I

1141
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: can do. But like if you like yo, man, I

1142
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: wish I would have practiced harder, maybe I would have won.

1143
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 2: How many times you get these opportunities?

1144
00:52:58,840 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 5: Right?

1145
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,920
Speaker 4: So going forward, do you have plans on expanding the

1146
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,240
Speaker 4: team and hiring more people.

1147
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Like I said, for the brand, I wanted to

1148
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,799
Speaker 2: embody the journey, what the women are going through. I

1149
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 2: want the twisted up to similar to how Damon built

1150
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 2: his brand for us by us right, this is a

1151
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 2: product that allows our culture to twist their hair naturally

1152
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,359
Speaker 2: that was made by one of their own. And the

1153
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 2: more of us that where our hair this way, and

1154
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: the more of us that embrace just the natural look,

1155
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 2: you are changing the narrative of how you see the culture.

1156
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 2: You can have braves or chronos and be a doctor,

1157
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 2: be a lawyer, be an entrepreneur, be a successful CEO.

1158
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 2: And doesn't mean that you're a gangster, doesn't mean that

1159
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: you're a hulem, doesn't mean that you come from the streets.

1160
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 2: Like this is how I hear, is where naturally and

1161
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:49,600
Speaker 2: this is who we are, which is why I love

1162
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: your podcasts man, your story or which you guys are

1163
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 2: doing like your narrative. You're hosting a place where our

1164
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 2: culture comes on and they see people that look like us,

1165
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: all ages making money. Like there's no excuse, Man, there

1166
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 2: is done. You can't use the excuse that I'm black

1167
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 2: and I can't be successful anymore. I know some have

1168
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 2: it harder than most. I understand that. But the Internet's

1169
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 2: the great equalizer and I'm a firm believer in that. Like,

1170
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 2: if you have access to the Internet, you can change

1171
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,359
Speaker 2: your life. Well, you need his wife, find a dream

1172
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 2: is a fact, and you got a living proof of it. Brot,

1173
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 2: you guys are hosting a new story and with a

1174
00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 2: new young person or an older person changing the life

1175
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 2: on the internet. Avery, single day, Avery, single day, Wall

1176
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 2: Street Trap came out of jail, look at him. Came

1177
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 2: out of prison. Yeah, came out of prison.

1178
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 3: Yo, that's a common I mean, it goes to show

1179
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 3: you that it doesn't matter where you start, it's about

1180
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 3: what you do with your time and how you finished.

1181
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 2: You can't you can't change the cars that were doe

1182
00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: to you, but you can definitely figure out how you

1183
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 2: go to play.

1184
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 7: Them, how you can have the best hand what you're

1185
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 7: deal with.

1186
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 2: Facts, and it's about a community and that's what you

1187
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: guys are building. And it's really dope, man. Like, I'm again,

1188
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 2: I'm very humble to be on the show like you

1189
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: guys are.

1190
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 5: You know, this officially makes you alumni.

1191
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 2: Bro. Whatever, let it be, bro, I don't even want

1192
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:24,680
Speaker 2: to give me like a small little life up. Man.

1193
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: It's it's very powerful. I'm not kidding. I hope you

1194
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 2: guys in the universe I'm putting out that. I hope

1195
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 2: you guys really win the noble peace price for the culture.

1196
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 6: Bro.

1197
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,359
Speaker 2: Like appreciate you guys are changing it. Appreciate it.

1198
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 8: It's just the beginning to like sometimes people catch on

1199
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 8: the things later, you know, social media, sometimes one post

1200
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 8: will blow up and or somebody will blow up. But

1201
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 8: like you could blow up and have money or have followers.

1202
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 8: But if what you're doing ain't really genuine impact, it's

1203
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 8: gonna stop real quick.

1204
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. If I have kids, they're gonna learn

1205
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:56,399
Speaker 2: about y'all. And if no one's riding your biography world,

1206
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 2: get that done. I'm being dead bro, like for real.

1207
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 5: Wells traveling.

1208
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 2: For real. Man, appreciate that's greatly appreciate it, Humbler.

1209
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you guys for coming in. Man, I

1210
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,759
Speaker 4: really appreciate it. Man, what what would you like to

1211
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 4: tell the people? How can they follow you? Social media?

1212
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 2: Website already above, Yeah, man at Twisted Up t W

1213
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 2: I S t I t U P. It's our Instagram,

1214
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 2: Twisted Up Combs on Facebook. You can find the comb

1215
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 2: on Amazon or our website Twisted upcomb dot com. And

1216
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,479
Speaker 2: for anyone that is an entrepreneur that wants to grab

1217
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 2: anything from this conversation, don't overthink it, just jump. I'm

1218
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 2: a perfect example, man. I didn't know anything about stocks.

1219
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:42,479
Speaker 2: I jumped made some money in it because of you guys,

1220
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:46,000
Speaker 2: So thank you very much. Watch market one day, Yeah, man,

1221
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,439
Speaker 2: it's uh, it's dope. And at the end of the day,

1222
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 2: like you can't be overwhelmed with what if when a

1223
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 2: you're going to get yours astill to get paid for

1224
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 2: a year now he's rent card, cell phone is paid

1225
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 2: for by the company. Like, it's stay down until you

1226
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 2: come up.

1227
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 8: Yeah. That's one thing we always talk about is a

1228
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 8: effort is worth more than currency.

1229
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: You put.

1230
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 7: You put that effort and everything else will follow.

1231
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 2: But trademark that man, I see how you know, bro,

1232
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: I'm seeing how you're not in your head broa that bro,

1233
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 2: it's effort's worth way more than currency. Man. You can

1234
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 2: take a million dollars now and not have the education.

1235
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:28,160
Speaker 2: But you ever see a thirty for thirty. That's why

1236
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 2: people go broke. They don't know what to do with it. Honestly,

1237
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 2: ask yourself that question. You want a million bucks right now,

1238
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 2: tomorrow you got it, what would you do with it?

1239
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 2: Go back to your habits, you spend it. Yeah, not

1240
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 2: gonna change, nothing's gonna change. And then in two years

1241
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 2: you're gonna ask for another million. You don't know what

1242
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 2: to do? You do what you know?

1243
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 5: We just had that conversation.

1244
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 2: Facts, it's it's uh yeah, I was just stealing it

1245
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 2: because you're gonna steal my quote. You know, facts, Man,

1246
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: got anything to tell them? Man, any advice? Nah?

1247
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 7: Man, just just keep it sounds cliche, but just just

1248
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 7: keep grinding. Man, Just just keep hustling.

1249
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 8: And if you feel like it's cliche, then living proof

1250
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 8: is the guys right in front of us, yourself, and

1251
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 8: it's the other people out there.

1252
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 2: That's all.

1253
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 7: We all in the same boat. We all in the

1254
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 7: same struggle. But just keep your head up, just keep grinding.

1255
00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 2: Appreciate y'all, gentlemen.

1256
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 3: Man Troy, I'll do it for Noel since he didn't

1257
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 3: say congratulations on your engagement.

1258
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 2: Oh, thank you very much. Man. Yeah, I'm gonna look

1259
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 2: at man. Yeah, thought before you get mad. We got

1260
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 2: a two and a half year engagement because she's in school,

1261
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: so I'm just like you, I want to celebrate it too.

1262
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 5: So this is ours I'm gonna apologize for.

1263
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:42,200
Speaker 2: He was a little nervous, so you might have forgot

1264
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 2: about you. That's an engagement ring. Yeah, congrats, Yeah, I'm

1265
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 2: being dead bro, Like, that's the first time I've ever

1266
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 2: seen that. I'm telling I did not think I was

1267
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 2: going to get married man, Like, I honestly did not

1268
00:58:57,160 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: think that I was ever going to get married. By

1269
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 2: my family, my friends can attest to this. Man like

1270
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 2: I'm happy, Like I'm a better executor when I'm single,

1271
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 2: Like I'm happy. And then you think you happy and

1272
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 2: you find someone bro that like keeps the peace and

1273
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 2: like it's what you need, Like I'm still in that

1274
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: like happyly ever after a fairy fairy phase. Man, Shout

1275
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 2: out to uh Mike, my fiance, Grace. I love you

1276
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 2: so much, thank you so much for all that you do. Man,

1277
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: I appreciate you wholeheartedly.

1278
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Grace, I make sure it's a big moment, the

1279
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 3: biggest show. He almost forgot you. Yeah, shout everybody on.

1280
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 7: Edit edit that out.

1281
00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 2: Man.

1282
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,920
Speaker 3: Shout out to everybody on fishy on dot com that

1283
00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 3: is our proud to pay program. Shout out to all

1284
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,000
Speaker 3: the earners there, and shout to all the earners in

1285
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 3: e y L University. Over ten thousand of y'all just

1286
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 3: taking information and applying and executing at a very high level.

1287
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 3: So shout out to y'all. Shout to everybody that's been

1288
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,439
Speaker 3: supporting the merch. Shout out to the entire merch team.

1289
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 3: Y'all are killing it. Yeah man, Love is love.

1290
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 2: Yes, thank you rock And what's we see next week? Peace? Peace.

1291
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 2: My graduates from my school being forced back drop drop

1292
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 2: Mike drotdrops.

1293
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Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child

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Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. An MS thirteen gang member from Al Salvador

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Speaker 1: accused of murdering a Texas man of Venezuelan charged with

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Speaker 1: filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just

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Speaker 1: some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President

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Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Christy nom the United States

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Speaker 1: Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border

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Speaker 1: crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand illegal aliens have been arrested. If you

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Speaker 1: were here illegal, you're next. You will be fine nearly

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Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a day, imprisoned and deported. You will

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Speaker 1: never return. But if you register using our CBP home

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Speaker 1: app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally.

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Speaker 1: Do what's right. Leave now under President Trump, America's laws,

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Speaker 1: border and families.

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Speaker 2: Will be protected. Sponsored by the United States Department of

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Speaker 2: Homeland Security,