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Speaker 3: Hello everyone, Hello, Robert Buckley, Hi, so how are you hey?
Speaker 4: And hello to everyone at home.
Speaker 3: Gang, We got a fun one for you today, Episode
Speaker 3: seven fifteen, Season seven, episode fifteen, Don't You Forget About Me?
Speaker 3: Cue the song, Air date February first, twenty ten. Tell
Speaker 3: them what it's about, soph.
Speaker 4: Okay, this is such a fun one. In the chaos
Speaker 4: surrounding an eighties alumni dance at the high school, it's
Speaker 4: a fundraiser dance, by the way. That's not in the synopsis,
Speaker 4: but does feel relevant, Hayley's birthday gets for gotten, Jamie's
Speaker 4: left home alone, and Nathan and Claire stranded two hundred
Speaker 4: miles from tree Hill. Meanwhile, Brook's appearance at the dance
Speaker 4: with Alexander forces Julian to relive his dorky adolescence in
Speaker 4: an episode dedicated to the memory of John Hughes. Les
Speaker 4: Butler directed this. It was written by Terry Coley. This
Speaker 4: was so fun.
Speaker 3: Yes, agreed, are you? Are you a big fan of
Speaker 3: the eighties and of John Hughes immense.
Speaker 4: Like an immense John Hughes fan. I went through a
Speaker 4: phase where I probably watched The Breakfast Club once a
Speaker 4: week for two years. Wow, Like, I just I don't know,
Speaker 4: I just love the whole era. I think, you know,
Speaker 4: from that to Ferris Bueller's Day Off to Pretty in
Speaker 4: paink in sixteen Handles, like, it was such an iconic
Speaker 4: moment in film history. And I think the nostalgia of
Speaker 4: it relates to this show because you really had a
Speaker 4: lot of kids trying to figure out their identity and
Speaker 4: like talk about their feelings and figure out how to
Speaker 4: be good to each other and forgive each other. And
Speaker 4: I don't know, there's something something about getting to honor
Speaker 4: John Hughes on a show like one Trehill felt like
Speaker 4: a really big deal.
Speaker 3: Yes, I had forgotten entirely that we had done this episode.
Speaker 3: By the way, Really, I am a huge John Hughes fan.
Speaker 3: I'm a big eighties fan. When I became an actor,
Speaker 3: one of my bucket list dreams was to work with
Speaker 3: John Hughes. So when he passed, I was devastated because
Speaker 3: his movies they're so unique in that they entertain you,
Speaker 3: but they leave you feeling good when you walk out
Speaker 3: of the movie theater. There's actual, like substance. They're nutritious,
Speaker 3: you know, it's not like diet coke. Like a lot
Speaker 3: of movies, there's ninety minutes of content, but they don't
Speaker 3: make your heart feel better, you know, And his weord
Speaker 3: just different. And so when you know, the episode opens
Speaker 3: with was it simple minds? Don't you forget about me?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And oh, I just I loved it. I thought it
Speaker 3: was so great. So do you remember did he did
Speaker 3: he pass? Like? Ride around this time and we just
Speaker 3: quickly turned around an episode dedicated to him.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it must have been. I would imagine it was
Speaker 4: a few months before filming. I don't really remember in
Speaker 4: the calendar, but obviously they had to figure out how
Speaker 4: to do it. And then the sort of device of
Speaker 4: letting all of us adults honor John Hughes and then
Speaker 4: giving Jamie the home alone storyline. Yeah, felt so sweet
Speaker 4: because it sort of merged the worlds we grew up in,
Speaker 4: you know, as viewers, and to your point that we
Speaker 4: kind of grew up idolizing, like similarly to you, I
Speaker 4: really always hoped I'd get to make a John Hughes movie.
Speaker 4: And it is really weird when you're heroes pass away
Speaker 4: because it so confronting about time, and I don't know,
Speaker 4: I think it's really special that we got to do
Speaker 4: something that felt like that and felt authentic to us
Speaker 4: as well. And then you know the fact that our team,
Speaker 4: our studio was able to also get cheap trick to
Speaker 4: come in and perform was so crazy and cool. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was really neat.
Speaker 3: This show continually crushes it when it comes to music.
Speaker 3: I'm constantly amazed at what we pulled off. You know,
Speaker 3: we talk about sometimes how things happen on this show,
Speaker 3: and it feels like it feels a bit half baked,
Speaker 3: where it's like, oh, man, if we had just given
Speaker 3: that a little bit more thought, we could have pulled
Speaker 3: this off so much more successfully. I felt like this
Speaker 3: was an example of they really executed it very well
Speaker 3: in terms of yes kind of seamlessly fitting in the
Speaker 3: eighties vibe, the homages to all of the different John
Speaker 3: Hughes movies. It was all done very very just cleverly
Speaker 3: like it all worked. None of it was sort of
Speaker 3: clunky or awkward, you know, because we're referencing I think,
Speaker 3: what let's see home alone, sixteen candles, pretty in pink, planes,
Speaker 3: trains and automobiles, and Uncle Buck with a lot of
Speaker 3: movie references to get right, you know, but they wove
Speaker 3: it all together quite well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it is a lot.
Speaker 3: Forgive me, because this is the John Hughes these movies
Speaker 3: that I'm not super clear about. The iconic shot of
Speaker 3: is it Molly Ringwold and Andrew whatever his name is
Speaker 3: with the cake in the middle, Is that pretty in
Speaker 3: pink or sixteen candles?
Speaker 4: I asked the same question. Hold on, I'm going.
Speaker 3: To google Andrew McCarthy is his name, because I knew
Speaker 3: we were referencing one of them. Obviously, Ducky is I
Speaker 3: don't even know which one Ducky is either.
Speaker 4: Pretty in pink? Okay is what I'm finding online? I
Speaker 4: had the exact same question. I was like, wait, is
Speaker 4: it pretty in bangor is it sixteen candles?
Speaker 3: But it okay is sixteen candles? Molly Ringwold as well?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean she's in all of them.
Speaker 3: Good for her in.
Speaker 4: Every John Hughes movie. She was only sixteen when she
Speaker 4: did Breakfast Club. What.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that blows my mind.
Speaker 4: Really, fifteen when they made sixteen Candles, sixteen when they
Speaker 4: did the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: So I gotta say, if an actor wants a dressed
Speaker 3: I feel like one of the worst answers you could
Speaker 3: give to shut them down is you're not that kind
Speaker 3: of girl. Ooof, you know what I mean, that's a
Speaker 3: great way to get someone to dig in their heels.
Speaker 4: Your character's just not that cool.
Speaker 3: Sorry woof, infinitely smarter. I will say wardrobe killed it
Speaker 3: this episode. Hair makeup as well. Oh my gosh, I
Speaker 3: did have a question. This is a very obvious boy question.
Speaker 3: But okay, Quinn uses a flat iron apparently to achieve
Speaker 3: the kind of crimped look.
Speaker 4: So a crimper is essentially it's the same tool as
Speaker 4: a flat iron, you know, flat side, and then there's
Speaker 4: the there's the metal plates in it, but instead of
Speaker 4: the metal plates being flat on the inside, they're in
Speaker 4: like a they're in this they're in like a zigzag,
Speaker 4: like a triangle shape. So when you push the flat
Speaker 4: iron together, it actually crimps the hair, and so instead
Speaker 4: of grabbing it and dragging it down like you see
Speaker 4: girls do with a flat iron, you grab and press
Speaker 4: and hold for a minute and then it's crimped and
Speaker 4: then you keep going. So you have to do each
Speaker 4: section on the plates.
Speaker 3: Gotcha? Okay? See I thought she was holding a flat iron,
Speaker 3: and so I was very confused as to how a
Speaker 3: flat iron would achieve such a crimped look. But that's it.
Speaker 4: It's the shape of the plate, got it. The more
Speaker 4: you know, you know.
Speaker 3: Do you remember in the eighties, And you might be
Speaker 3: too young for this, but there was, you know, because
Speaker 3: there was things we grew up with that we were
Speaker 3: like taught to be afraid of that just had absolutely
Speaker 3: no like like real world and like presence, like quicksand
Speaker 3: for example, I was definitely afraid of quicksand as a kid,
Speaker 3: I've never seen quicksand in my life. No, do you
Speaker 3: remember hearing about how aerosol hair sprays were destroying the ozone? Yes,
Speaker 3: what happened?
Speaker 5: I don't actually know, because we still have plenty of
Speaker 5: aerosol hair sprays, But I feel do we just have
Speaker 5: bigger fish to fry? I don't know, Because do you
Speaker 5: remember hearing like I remember being at like a younger
Speaker 5: age and hearing like, yes, these hair sprays are destroying
Speaker 5: our ozone.
Speaker 4: Well, and there was a big deal, especially when we
Speaker 4: were little kids. The hole in the ozone layer was growing.
Speaker 4: But then all of these great regulations and environmental protections
Speaker 4: were put into place, and and you know, hundreds of
Speaker 4: thousands of acres of land were planted with trees that
Speaker 4: would pull carbon and like all these great things. And
Speaker 4: then you cut to a couple of years ago and
Speaker 4: like these terrible people set like half the Amazon on fire.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, so, I know, the ozone started to
Speaker 4: get better, but then we essentially set the lungs of
Speaker 4: the planet on fire. Is anybody going to give us
Speaker 4: an update about that? Like, I know, it's really bad.
Speaker 4: And people talked about how it could you know, push
Speaker 4: climate into like terrifying, a terrifying sort of zone where
Speaker 4: we're going to go past to sea, and then like
Speaker 4: what happens to the global food supply? That wow, this
Speaker 4: has really taking a turn. Yeah, now you know what
Speaker 4: I spend all my free time reading about and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 4: I read all the really really scary things. Is anybody
Speaker 4: going to like, let us know what we need to
Speaker 4: do about that, because you talk to us way more
Speaker 4: about hairspray than you did about like fires that ate
Speaker 4: up hundreds of thousands of acres of the trees that
Speaker 4: keep us alive. So thank you for reminding me of
Speaker 4: that terrifying thing, Rob that I know I'm going to
Speaker 4: have to go and check in on an update for
Speaker 4: on the internet after this episode.
Speaker 3: They're like, listen, don't worry about what we're doing to
Speaker 3: the rainforest. You need to be focused on acid rain
Speaker 3: and clicksand and killer.
Speaker 4: Bees and rats of unusual size.
Speaker 3: Yep, you know there's a lot to be worried about,
Speaker 3: which is all the more reason why we need an
Speaker 3: episode like this.
Speaker 4: We need a John Hughes moment.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question. When you think eighties
Speaker 3: hair makeup, what's the first thing that comes to your mind?
Speaker 4: I think a lot about Is it Helmet Newton? He
Speaker 4: did all these really edgy portraits of women, and like
Speaker 4: I think they did. Didn't he do music videos?
Speaker 3: Okay, well, sof does this, I'll give my answer. Okay,
Speaker 3: for me, it's Moose. Moose is like when Moose is
Speaker 3: so specifically eighties in fact I was doing. I was
Speaker 3: doing some sort of job not too long ago, and
Speaker 3: the hairstyles put moose in my hair, and I remember
Speaker 3: feeling like, did you just find that in a time capsule?
Speaker 3: Like I haven't seen that in the two decades. Still
Speaker 3: works though?
Speaker 4: It absolutely does. And by the way, I had to
Speaker 4: do a shoot recently and they put moose in my
Speaker 4: hair and I was like, wow, this feels like a
Speaker 4: real throwback. I didn't say anything because it was my
Speaker 4: first day on set with these people, and at the
Speaker 4: end of the day, I was like, my hair still
Speaker 4: looks really good. Is mooseless? Secret?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: Okay. Robert Palmer was the eighties music video guy Addicted
Speaker 4: to Love, and it was all the like hot chicks
Speaker 4: in the black dresses and the really beautiful like red lips,
Speaker 4: severe eye. This is what I think about immediately when
Speaker 4: I think about eighties style yees, like all these chicks
Speaker 4: in their black dresses with the guitars and the red
Speaker 4: lips just looking epic.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know this look right, Yeah, And.
Speaker 4: I loved that I got to do a version of
Speaker 4: that that was actually me and Carol's inspiration for Brooke
Speaker 4: was like the shape of the dress looks a lot
Speaker 4: like those eighties electric guitars. And it's the black velvet
Speaker 4: and the red lip and the big hair, like we
Speaker 4: really wanted to lean into that. Kelly Kopowski meets a
Speaker 4: Robert Palmer video girl and it was the highlight for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, great reference, Kelly Kopowski. Yes, right, that hair is
Speaker 3: so perfectly eighties my gal. I thought, Yeah, the wardrobe
Speaker 3: was so good. I was bummed that Clay didn't get
Speaker 3: to get in on it, but I loved the planes,
Speaker 3: trains and automobile storyline with Nathan and Clay's actually a
Speaker 3: memory I a clear memory I have from shooting the
Speaker 3: series was doing it. Yes, First of all, I remember
Speaker 3: being at the gas station the scene where Clay and
Speaker 3: Nathan because I thought deluge was pronounced deluge and the
Speaker 3: produce ready to come out and go like it's it's
Speaker 3: deluge and I was like, I don't think so. It
Speaker 3: was one of those ones where I was wrong and
Speaker 3: confident and I had I had to be corrected by
Speaker 3: several different people. And then the pigs. I remember being
Speaker 3: in the back of the truck with with James and
Speaker 3: the pigs. How is that it was great?
Speaker 4: Stinky?
Speaker 3: Probably Yeah, but what I just remember is going like,
Speaker 3: this is cool, this is my job, Like this is awesome,
Speaker 3: you know, it's this is we're sitting in the back
Speaker 3: of the truck with pigs. Also, there was so much
Speaker 3: fun stuff, you know what it did. They did a
Speaker 3: really good thing with that storyline where even that little
Speaker 3: snapshot of a John Hughes movie was like a John
Speaker 3: Hughes movie in the sense that we had laughs, but
Speaker 3: then we had emotional sincerity, like when Clay actually talks
Speaker 3: about losing Sarah, and then there's like the hero's redemption
Speaker 3: they actually for It's so hard to do an episode
Speaker 3: of television when you have so many characters to serve.
Speaker 3: This is the thing like people don't realize. When you
Speaker 3: have an entire ensemble, it oftentimes worked out to where
Speaker 3: it's like every character gets five minutes of screen time,
Speaker 3: you know, when you have such a big cast, and
Speaker 3: it's really hard to tell a whole story in five minutes.
Speaker 3: But that storyline they did an exceptional job with because
Speaker 3: it really kind of had its own arc, its own beginning, middle,
Speaker 3: and end. So Yeah, while I was bummed I didn't
Speaker 3: get to take part in the eighties fashion, I loved
Speaker 3: because I also love planes, trains, and automobiles. It's just iconic,
Speaker 3: you know, the only thing missing from that homage was
Speaker 3: the incredible scene at the airport where Steve Martin goes
Speaker 3: to get a rental car and it's not there, and
Speaker 3: he has the vulgarity laden tirade where he's like, you know,
Speaker 3: and I guess apparently that that little riff in the movie.
Speaker 3: I think that was what got did that movie. I
Speaker 3: think that movie was an r I think we're hearing
Speaker 3: because of that scene. Yeah, and the studio is saying
Speaker 3: like no, because especially back then, I don't know if
Speaker 3: it's still the case our movies, you're not able to
Speaker 3: gross as much as a PG thirteen movie. But I
Speaker 3: believe John Hughes saying or the thing was like, no,
Speaker 3: that's that needs to stay in the picture.
Speaker 4: I loved And I want to reference this because it
Speaker 4: comes up at the beginning of the episode. And I
Speaker 4: actually think it's so cool that it happened in this one,
Speaker 4: because we talked about it last week with Austin that
Speaker 4: it would have been so much better if he had
Speaker 4: been in one of the rooms in Lucas's house and
Speaker 4: overheard the director berating Alex like just on the other
Speaker 4: side of the doorway, and we got it in this
Speaker 4: one because Brooke and Julian are in Lucas's old bedroom
Speaker 4: and you know, she has the bit about like this
Speaker 4: teamster is, you know, painting over my childhood and I,
Speaker 4: by the way, I love the Teamster shout out because
Speaker 4: they just ratified their new union deal and I was like,
Speaker 4: go Teamsters. It maybe really proud, but it's like one
Speaker 4: of those jokes that's burned into my brain. But it's
Speaker 4: so great because Brook's talking about the dance and Julian's
Speaker 4: not getting it and they're back in this bedroom that
Speaker 4: she tried to have good communication with a boy and
Speaker 4: in high school and it failed. And then right on
Speaker 4: the other side of the wall, Alex when Julian comes out,
Speaker 4: is like she's asking you to the dance and he's like, no,
Speaker 4: she's not, and she's like, yes, she is, You're going.
Speaker 4: And it's this great moment because it does feel so
Speaker 4: high school, and it also gives us the thing we
Speaker 4: really wanted last week that we didn't get, and I
Speaker 4: loved that it happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a very big fan of Alex the Wingman. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I will say I So I was. I love that
Speaker 3: because it was so believable, like I'm the same way.
Speaker 3: I'm such I can be so thick headed and just
Speaker 3: like not pick up on cues and subtleties. I'd be like,
Speaker 3: she doesn't like me, you know. So I was. I
Speaker 3: totally understood that. But so I loved all of that.
Speaker 3: I loved and it was kind of cool that the
Speaker 3: two Alex's were both actually just sort of there to
Speaker 3: like Wingman and Cheerlead. Yeah, love that dynamic. The weird
Speaker 3: thing that I I didn't I bumped on hard was
Speaker 3: at the end of it when alex I think she's talking.
Speaker 3: I think she's talking to Alexander, yeah, outside the school,
Speaker 3: and she's like, just so you know, like those two
Speaker 3: are gonna end up, like she loves him or something
Speaker 3: like that, and he goes, well, how do you know?
Speaker 3: And she says, because I love him too. I was like, what,
Speaker 3: why are we still telling people you love him?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's weird. It would have been better if she'd
Speaker 4: said some version of it that was like in the
Speaker 4: past tense, yes, like I used to love him and
Speaker 4: there's no getting between those two or something. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: like I've seen it, They're meant to be something. It.
Speaker 4: It was weird because she's rooting for them, and then
Speaker 4: she's also like, but I love him.
Speaker 3: It's bizarre And that's fine if you still have feelings
Speaker 3: for him, But I don't know why you'd advertise that right,
Speaker 3: especially to someone, especially to the person who is Brook's
Speaker 3: right hand man.
Speaker 4: Yes, and it's interesting too because Brooke has had the
Speaker 4: conversation uh with other people about what it was like
Speaker 4: to be the third in the Brook, Peyton and Lucas
Speaker 4: love triangle, like there's no getting between Peyton and Lucas.
Speaker 4: You could give the audience that familiar feeling in that
Speaker 4: Easter egg of like, I know what it's like to
Speaker 4: be in this love triangle. There's no getting between those two.
Speaker 4: And it would really get into that canon of the
Speaker 4: One Tree Hill relationships, right, like the end games are
Speaker 4: such a big deal, YadA YadA, and instead it's like, wait,
Speaker 4: is she being the sweetest person in the world or
Speaker 4: kind of a stalker?
Speaker 3: Like what's that's it? Exactly? Because I'm still trying to
Speaker 3: figure out like who Alex is, Like what what is
Speaker 3: Alex going forward? And so throughout the entirety of this episode,
Speaker 3: I was thinking, sweet, she has sort of come to
Speaker 3: terms with the fact that it's Brooke and Julian and
Speaker 3: now she's just going to be a team player. And
Speaker 3: then so to do this, to make this proclamation, it's
Speaker 3: not really a proclamation, but to make this admission, it
Speaker 3: just it's like, yeah, it kind of muddies the water
Speaker 3: of like, so, is this sincere?
Speaker 4: It kind of takes the charm out of the whole night.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, we'll put that's what it is, I think.
Speaker 3: And I just because she's been so I was sort
Speaker 3: of hoping that we would just settle into this, we're
Speaker 3: finally just friends with no ulterior motives, and then she
Speaker 3: says this at the very end, I'm like, oh, friends,
Speaker 3: don't do.
Speaker 4: That, because you know what it is. It could have
Speaker 4: been very similar to last week with Mouth and Miss Lauren,
Speaker 4: where you get to see these friends who really see
Speaker 4: each other and they have great chemistry, but that chemistry
Speaker 4: is not romantic, and the Alex and Julian chemistry as
Speaker 4: friends and sidekicks is so great. And then in a way,
Speaker 4: like it pulls the rug out from under itself by
Speaker 4: having her say she still has feelings for him.
Speaker 3: And I wonder just to what end it was in
Speaker 3: there for, because I don't know, are they still trying
Speaker 3: to have alex be a potential threat too? Brilliant? I
Speaker 3: don't remember where the story goes, so that I'm genuinely asking, I.
Speaker 4: Was just going to say, I'm embarrassed. I don't remember.
Speaker 3: I don't remember how long alex is as a round for.
Speaker 3: But that was my only question was are we still
Speaker 3: trying to like have the presence of a potential threat?
Speaker 3: Is that why that's happening? I don't know it was.
Speaker 3: It would have been a lot cooler if like she
Speaker 3: hit on Alexander, sure, or.
Speaker 4: If she even admitted that it's hard. But she's trying
Speaker 4: to be a good friend because by the way, that's
Speaker 4: what he's doing, you know, he he is so charming
Speaker 4: through this episode, coming in to check on her, offering
Speaker 4: to be a date, saying, look, Miami, vice is my
Speaker 4: that's my jam. And the way like that shot of
Speaker 4: him of Mitch outside, you know, on the trans am
Speaker 4: in the suit, it's so charming, Like holy is it charming?
Speaker 4: And I don't know, I like that he really shows
Speaker 4: up for her as a friend and even if he
Speaker 4: likes Brooke, he's not talking about it. Yeah, and it
Speaker 4: would be cool to see him in Alex Alexander and
Speaker 4: Alex wind up in the same kind of space. But
Speaker 4: then the writers like took it away from her a
Speaker 4: little bit, and I don't love that.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And also that Miami Vice suit was incredible.
Speaker 4: He looks so good and his hair is so good.
Speaker 4: Oh good, the whole thing is perfect. I also like
Speaker 4: that he comes in and he ribs her about the
Speaker 4: dress a little bit. He's like, what is like what
Speaker 4: is this? What like Flamenco dancing contest or whatever? He says,
Speaker 4: are you going to and she realizes she has to
Speaker 4: redo it. My flag on the play there is whose
Speaker 4: hands are cutting and sewing my dress? Because they are
Speaker 4: not mine?
Speaker 3: Oh? How funny?
Speaker 4: Like they realized they didn't shoot inserts, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: you guys, I had like I had a manicure, and
Speaker 4: whoever whoever's hands they used for the inserts had like
Speaker 4: rings on that aren't mine. And it's so silly to me.
Speaker 4: So that a big flag for me.
Speaker 3: In There is there a world in which was Alexander's
Speaker 3: hands or were they female hands?
Speaker 4: No, they were they were a lady's hands.
Speaker 3: That's funny. I didn't catch that. Oh it's good though.
Speaker 4: Like it's a shot of like scissors cutting the red
Speaker 4: crinkle fabric that becomes the sash on my dress, and
Speaker 4: then sewing like through the sewing machine, feeding the fabric through,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, I don't know whose hands those are,
Speaker 4: but they are. It was kind of a trip.
Speaker 3: But yeah, to your point, I think anything Alex would
Speaker 3: have said, all you have to do is just make
Speaker 3: it past tense.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The issue is that she's stating it as if it's
Speaker 3: just how she's currently still feeling. That makes it sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And she's been such a great friend recently to
Speaker 4: Julian that it it makes her kindness seem suspect and
Speaker 4: then it's like, well is she kind or conniving?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: And I don't think that that's necessary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we've put her through enough extreme stuff. Can
Speaker 3: you just have her be a human for a while? Yeah, Like,
Speaker 3: just let her be a buddy.
Speaker 4: They really ran Alex and Millie through the ringer this season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know how else they ran through the
Speaker 3: ringer this episode, Kylie.
Speaker 4: Poor Sasha, God, Sasha is such a good sport.
Speaker 3: Yeah, They're like, just show up in a bikini. We're
Speaker 3: gonna pour a smoothie on you.
Speaker 4: I didn't what.
Speaker 3: No, they did her dirty in this episode.
Speaker 4: They really literally I wondered if it was sort of
Speaker 4: a you know, the famous red bikini scene, and that's
Speaker 4: a John Hughes movie right when the girl gets out
Speaker 4: fast times at Ridgemont High.
Speaker 3: Is not that's not John Hughes.
Speaker 4: It's not John Hughes.
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't believe so so well it's in.
Speaker 4: That era, then, I guess, And it felt like they
Speaker 4: wanted to kind of reference that, but they did it
Speaker 4: in this way that was a bit degrading, and it
Speaker 4: was also weird. It felt so left of center for Quinn.
Speaker 4: I was like, wait, Quinn is like pretty chill, and
Speaker 4: then she like dumped a smoothie on this girl and
Speaker 4: is accusing is like calling her a whore. It feels
Speaker 4: like a lot.
Speaker 3: Well, and it doesn't help that literally, last episode she
Speaker 3: was telling Haley to kill Taylor with kindness and she
Speaker 3: was like, I'm a high road type gal, I kill
Speaker 3: with kindness, and then the next episode she's pouring a
Speaker 3: smoothie on this gal. It neither way made sense to
Speaker 3: me saw Kylie's I don't understand she's not like a
Speaker 3: real person because she just shows up at Clays to
Speaker 3: swim without even talking to him, which again is just odd.
Speaker 3: She has a key and she goes to let herself in,
Speaker 3: and then she's mad when the door's not open. It's like,
Speaker 3: what kind of a real person would do that?
Speaker 4: No, it's all very weird. And she has such a
Speaker 4: great storyline in this episode because she is the babe
Speaker 4: from Weird Science, but it opens so oddly, and again
Speaker 4: it reminds me of what we talked about with Austin
Speaker 4: last week, that they had an idea for how to
Speaker 4: bring the Kylie character back so that they could do
Speaker 4: the lock thing and Clay could be cute to Quinn
Speaker 4: and then Kylie could be the fantasy girl from Weird
Speaker 4: Science in this episode. But it feels like they never
Speaker 4: got past the outline on her scenes. It was like
Speaker 4: they just left the bullet points from the outline in
Speaker 4: and they didn't flesh out last week or these first
Speaker 4: scenes this week. Because then once Kylie gets to the
Speaker 4: dance with Mouth, it's so great, but when she shows
Speaker 4: up for the date and we're doing this really gross,
Speaker 4: like They wrote all these really sort of transphobic things
Speaker 4: in the episode about how there's no girl so perfect
Speaker 4: she's going to be a he and then to prove
Speaker 4: that she's a woman, she flashed her tits at him.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what, Like it felt so yucky, And i mean,
Speaker 4: poor Sasha. It's like, look, you show up as an
Speaker 4: actor and you have to do your job, and she committed.
Speaker 4: She did such a great job. She made it charming
Speaker 4: and funny and sassy, and she winds up just being
Speaker 4: the sweetest, sad girl who feels like she doesn't get picked.
Speaker 4: And you know, the scene where they wind up together
Speaker 4: at the locker between her and Quinn is actually so sweet. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And I was like, did it have to be so
Speaker 4: mean to get here? Couldn't we have just gotten here anyway?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And you know, the whole weird science thing like
Speaker 3: that is male wish fulfillment, right, That's the whole point.
Speaker 4: It's like this like creepy male gaze stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But they definitely continued with that theme because the
Speaker 3: thing that I just killed me man was at the
Speaker 3: end of the episode her in mouth walk out to
Speaker 3: the parking lot and she says, well, but you have
Speaker 3: been a true so we can go and have a shag.
Speaker 3: And it just felt like as if she was offering
Speaker 3: him a cookie, like, well, you weren't a complete asshole,
Speaker 3: so how about I give you some sex. It's like what, what?
Speaker 4: Yes? It just come And it feels like this recycling
Speaker 4: of the not it's not the charming John Hughes of
Speaker 4: it all. No one's learning a lesson. It's no different
Speaker 4: than last week where they had Taylor say and the rest,
Speaker 4: as they say, was sex. It's like, no one's saying
Speaker 4: that at the dinner table. That's not how women talk,
Speaker 4: and this girl is not gonna do this with mouth,
Speaker 4: Like I don't know, maybe they would say, you know,
Speaker 4: why don't we start over, let's go to a bar,
Speaker 4: let's go have a great time, and she realizes he's
Speaker 4: an amazing dancer, and they wind up going to like
Speaker 4: have a night together.
Speaker 3: But it's so.
Speaker 4: I don't know, I feel like eight year old boys
Speaker 4: wrote these scenes and I'm like, what is happening here?
Speaker 3: Even the act that she's so hung up on Clay
Speaker 3: when all we've ever seen is her laying in Clay's bed,
Speaker 3: and then she makes one comment to him about maybe
Speaker 3: feelings and he goes, I don't believe in love, like
Speaker 3: he shuts her down hard, hard, and ever since then
Speaker 3: it's like she has keys to the house. Yeah, weird
Speaker 3: and uh, and she's in love with him, but again
Speaker 3: it's odd, like so she shows up to his house
Speaker 3: to swim but doesn't go to talk to him. And
Speaker 3: then now now it's uh, the like, yeah, just it's
Speaker 3: it's so, it's so odd. So I just had such
Speaker 3: a massive brain fart. What was I talking about.
Speaker 4: Well, it's just this thing of us really going like
Speaker 4: it feels reductive and illogical, like Kylie can't possibly be
Speaker 4: in love with Clay there it is also why does
Speaker 4: she have keys? Because the only time we've seen her
Speaker 4: show up at his house he has to let her in. Yes,
Speaker 4: So again, it just feels to me like they had
Speaker 4: these bullet points in the outline and then they never
Speaker 4: fleshed out those scenes because they were doing really great
Speaker 4: work in so many other scenes. And I know we
Speaker 4: talk about this, I do want to be careful. I
Speaker 4: feel like I don't want to be totally negative because
Speaker 4: I actually loved this episode, but it is hard. I
Speaker 4: think from these points we're all in when we are
Speaker 4: you know, older and wiser when you know many of
Speaker 4: us are directors and producers and our literal job is
Speaker 4: to break down scripts to make sure they're as good
Speaker 4: as they can be. And then you look back and
Speaker 4: you go like, wait, all of these actors are so good,
Speaker 4: everyone is so charming, The setup for the episode is
Speaker 4: actually so adorable. Who doesn't love John Hughes? And then
Speaker 4: you're like, you could have done better by this character,
Speaker 4: who's actually great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And to be fair, I mean, I'm not really
Speaker 3: complaining about this episode. This is just this one story
Speaker 3: line where we feel for Kylie. And also they they
Speaker 3: really nailed it with again sort of going back to
Speaker 3: how when you have an ensemble and you really break
Speaker 3: down the math of how many minutes of airtime you
Speaker 3: have and how many characters you have, like genuinely, you
Speaker 3: get to a spot where you're like, we have six
Speaker 3: minutes with this character to tell a whole episode. Yes,
Speaker 3: and if they didn't flesh out the Kylie storyline, which
Speaker 3: let's be honest, that's not the ABC or probably even
Speaker 3: D storyline, Like that's okay because they nailed it with
Speaker 3: all of the main characters. Yeah, but that's not to
Speaker 3: say that, like they couldn't have done a little bit
Speaker 3: more just to humanize her.
Speaker 4: Just a little adjustment, like two clicks to the left
Speaker 4: would have been great.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And the point when I when I lost the
Speaker 3: thread when I was gonna get to is it just
Speaker 3: I didn't earn the moment when they're in the parking
Speaker 3: lot and Kylie looks over and sees Clay and Quinn reuniting,
Speaker 3: and she kind of has that look of longing. I
Speaker 3: know at that moment is but I just found myself going.
Speaker 3: But it's just odd how into him she is, and
Speaker 3: how completely oblivious and he he is, and how he's
Speaker 3: just like not there for her at all. Yeah, one
Speaker 3: sided is a better way of putting it.
Speaker 4: He's having appropriate reaction, and she's been assigned adoration based
Speaker 4: on pages.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and just at that last little exchange with Mouth,
Speaker 3: instead of just going, well, you sort of behaved yourself tonight,
Speaker 3: So here's some sex as a reward. It would have
Speaker 3: been so so much better if and said it was like, well,
Speaker 3: like let's go get waffles, you know, anything, pancakes, Yeah,
Speaker 3: see a breakfast food of any type, you know, Yes,
Speaker 3: just like that. I would have just been nice to see, like,
Speaker 3: let's let her just be a let's let her be
Speaker 3: a person.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would have been nice. I was wondering if
Speaker 4: you remember watching everyone in the parking lot. It didn't
Speaker 4: seem like that was a freezing night. Sometimes I feel
Speaker 4: like you can see the cold on camera. I could
Speaker 4: see how cold it was when you and James were
Speaker 4: at the gas station and in the pig truck, Like,
Speaker 4: I I know you guys were freezing, and this episode
Speaker 4: airing what does it say February first, I'm like, oof.
Speaker 4: This was probably the first episode we shot coming back
Speaker 4: from the New Year's break, Like, were you just frozen
Speaker 4: in the back of a truck with some little piggies?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I remember when they gave wardrobe options for
Speaker 3: being in the back of that truck. It was one
Speaker 3: of those moments where I was like, give me every
Speaker 3: suggestion you have as a Yes, you got a silly hat,
Speaker 3: put a silly hat on it, you got gloves, give
Speaker 3: me gloves. Because the scene at the gas station, I
Speaker 3: don't remember that being very cold. I mean to be fair,
Speaker 3: most most of it plays inside the car anyways, but yeah,
Speaker 3: that truck was cold because it's cold outside. And then
Speaker 3: you're also just you're just exposed to the wind, chill
Speaker 3: and the breeze, so that that was cold, but at
Speaker 3: least it was It was funny and distracting because you
Speaker 3: just have unruly pigs, and so we'd be like halfway
Speaker 3: into a take, you know, and a pig would want
Speaker 3: to like cuddle up with you, and it's just you know,
Speaker 3: you'd be like, Okay, this is happening. We're just gonna
Speaker 3: we're gonna go with it.
Speaker 4: The little baby pigs in the back.
Speaker 3: They weren't the most professional of scene partners, but they
Speaker 3: were adorable. It worked, Oh my god.
Speaker 4: And then the hiking I also watching I in all caps,
Speaker 4: I wrote, why are they hiking? Did love that'll do? Pig?
Speaker 4: Your little quoting babe was so sweet?
Speaker 3: Yeah? And how did it go? Did Clay didn't confess
Speaker 3: right away about Sarah?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: Didn't? Nathan kind of admonish him a couple of times?
Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys have been hiking for a while, and
Speaker 4: he flips out, which I thought was great. You know,
Speaker 4: I liked that we got a little bit of realism
Speaker 4: because again, these characters all have these crazy jobs, like
Speaker 4: it's all fantasyland, right, And I liked that he said,
Speaker 4: I spend over half the year on the road. The
Speaker 4: least I can do is be home for my wife's birthday.
Speaker 4: It was such a nice thing because it does. It
Speaker 4: reminded me of you know, there'd be weekends where like
Speaker 4: we would have worked a hundred hours and we'd go
Speaker 4: straight from set at five am on Saturday morning to
Speaker 4: the airport to get on a six am flight to
Speaker 4: get home for somebody's wedding or something, because you're just
Speaker 4: never home. Yeah, And it felt so true to me
Speaker 4: what he was saying. And I think in a way
Speaker 4: when he said, you know, you'd understand that if you'd
Speaker 4: ever been married. I was not expecting it. And when
Speaker 4: he said that to you, the look on your face
Speaker 4: coincided with me going like I gasped out loud alone
Speaker 4: in my house, and I was it felt like such
Speaker 4: a sucker punch. And then I literally wrote down I
Speaker 4: was like, wow, they really played the scene well, like
Speaker 4: I got very lost in it, and it was amazing
Speaker 4: that I as if you or I got to watch
Speaker 4: you be hurt by that and then realize that the
Speaker 4: only way to undo that hurt was to tell the truth.
Speaker 4: Because he just doesn't know. He says something shitty to you,
Speaker 4: but it's shitty because he doesn't know. Yeah, And the
Speaker 4: way that you share together in that moment was so good.
Speaker 4: And and he thinks you're joking. And then you explain
Speaker 4: that she died, and I wrote down I have all
Speaker 4: these notes about both of the ways you both reacted.
Speaker 4: The look on James's face. He looks away, he looks down,
Speaker 4: He like shakes his head. He doesn't know what to do. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and he says, I'm so sorry. I thought you were joking. Yeah, Like,
Speaker 4: and you realize these two people are so close and
Speaker 4: they do love each other so much, and their friendship
Speaker 4: is so meaningful, but this thing not existing between them
Speaker 4: until this moment like creates a big hole. It was
Speaker 4: really beautiful. You guys were so good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thinks And I'm glad you brought up because I
Speaker 3: loved this scene. You know, I love I love emotional
Speaker 3: vulnerability on a guy. I love emotional accessibility. And it's
Speaker 3: it was such a great invitation, you know, for like
Speaker 3: intimacy between these two of like, yeah, okay, we're pals.
Speaker 3: Like I'm going to really let you see me here,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm going to drop the guard and I love,
Speaker 3: like you said, I think the way he played it
Speaker 3: was perfect. I like the way that Clay delivers it
Speaker 3: because it's not punitive. It's not like, well you don't
Speaker 3: think this, but guess what. You know? He was just saying, hey,
Speaker 3: matter of fact, by the way, I've never shared this
Speaker 3: with you. Here some of my here's some of my story,
Speaker 3: you know. And I love the way he did it
Speaker 3: because it's so honest. That would be That's how how
Speaker 3: i'd react, is like, that's not funny, that's that's don't
Speaker 3: don't make that joke. And then oh my god, you're
Speaker 3: not joking. Oh you know, but it landed. It was
Speaker 3: so great man. Yeah, and just sets the stage for
Speaker 3: them getting even closer, which is which is awesome.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and the bit with the woman who drives by
Speaker 4: and the whole thing, and you know when he shows
Speaker 4: back up to rescue you and he's like, I bought
Speaker 4: her car. It's so it's a great buddy comedy that
Speaker 4: you guys have going in this whole episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Was that Christy Swanson? I think so because I
Speaker 3: remember shooting that scene and just remember having a moment
Speaker 3: of going, no freaking way the og Buffy, I get
Speaker 3: to do a scene with the og Buffy. But yeah, again,
Speaker 3: like the fact we have her and cheap trick, like
Speaker 3: it just it fired on all cylinders. Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they did really really well, and and I really
Speaker 4: love that all of those eighties references, you know, from
Speaker 4: the obvious to maybe the niche, depending on what people
Speaker 4: know about the era and those shows and those movies.
Speaker 4: They really layered all of that stuff in so well.
Speaker 4: Even the fact that Brooke and Julian have their scene
Speaker 4: with you know, the nerd and the popular girl in
Speaker 4: shop class like it was such a good choice. It
Speaker 4: wasn't over by the punch bowl, you know. It was
Speaker 4: so fun. And the one thing I do wish and
Speaker 4: I remember because obviously I had that really intense red
Speaker 4: lipstick on. I barely kiss him, and that would have
Speaker 4: been my note. Watching it back, I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: I should have just kissed him and we should have
Speaker 4: reset and gotten the lipstick off his face. But it
Speaker 4: was so colorful that I was trying to be careful
Speaker 4: and you know, respectful of Austin's face and time, and
Speaker 4: that was the one thing I wish we had changed.
Speaker 4: But I do think that the scene itself was so
Speaker 4: sweet because he talks about, you know, losing his confidence
Speaker 4: and it's nice to see that on a movie director.
Speaker 4: And she talks about, you know, knowing what it's like
Speaker 4: to get a kiss from the popular girl, which was
Speaker 4: always something she was self conscious about. And now it's like, oh, well,
Speaker 4: if you can own that, I can on this too,
Speaker 4: And I don't know, it was this very sweet. I
Speaker 4: felt like I saw them as adults and as teenagers,
Speaker 4: like healing their teen years in their present together.
Speaker 3: I gotta say, I'm actually glad you didn't put a
Speaker 3: bigger kiss on him. Really, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 4: Mean like a makeout. I just meant I wish i'd
Speaker 4: like kissed him, and I felt like I pecked him
Speaker 4: so that I didn't red up his face.
Speaker 3: The reason that worked for me was because I it
Speaker 3: left me a little confused that you kissed him. But
Speaker 3: then the episode goes on to say that, like you're
Speaker 3: still broken up? Yeah, because to me that kiss is
Speaker 3: sort of an invitation back in. That's how That's how
Speaker 3: I interpreted it, Like if my ex so I still
Speaker 3: have feelings for who I know, I feelings for me
Speaker 3: kisses me. That is sort of the door being opened
Speaker 3: to let's revisit this now. So I was confused because
Speaker 3: after that scene there's some sort of mention of like,
Speaker 3: we're gonna it's gonna be hard, we're gonna figure it out,
Speaker 3: and I was confused going but you just you just
Speaker 3: sort of showed. So I'm glad it wasn't more of
Speaker 3: a kiss because that would have been even more confusing
Speaker 3: of like you just had this wildly passionate kiss and
Speaker 3: now you know, because then it would have been like
Speaker 3: you're back on you know what I mean like that.
Speaker 3: And so because you made it small, it was sad. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was sad. It was sad, and it also made
Speaker 3: sense because in those movies, that is the kind of
Speaker 3: kiss that the popular girl gives the nerdy guy. It's
Speaker 3: sort of a consolation prize. Here you go, it's an adam.
Speaker 3: Here you go, pal, here's a kiss for you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was. It was like a sad thing. And
Speaker 4: I remember I do have that sense memory of being
Speaker 4: in the scene, and what we really wanted to capture
Speaker 4: was the sadness of the timing being off, but the
Speaker 4: longing for them, you know. And it's interesting you saying
Speaker 4: that has made me think even about what I was
Speaker 4: just saying that in a way, I see them as adults,
Speaker 4: and also I see them kind of reliving their like
Speaker 4: childhood wounds together. That's what they say, right, is that like,
Speaker 4: when you get into the right relationship, it's healthy in
Speaker 4: the present, but it can help you heal your past.
Speaker 4: And it's actually sort of special. And I hadn't thought
Speaker 4: about it until you said it, that we're we're getting
Speaker 4: a window into Brook and Julian ultimately being right for
Speaker 4: each other and being able to like grow together and
Speaker 4: heal together. But in this moment, the timing is still
Speaker 4: a little off, so there's duck and the being kind
Speaker 4: of in limbo or stuck in tandem. Is it's so
Speaker 4: sad and so sweet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you guys both played it great. But yeah,
Speaker 3: the opening of that scene of Julian just sitting in
Speaker 3: the half assembled car by himself cracked me up. Man,
Speaker 3: that was so funny, and his ducky outfit was next
Speaker 3: level when he and Jenna walked in. First of all,
Speaker 3: your hair was incredible, Like, you guys nailed your hair.
Speaker 3: But when when alex and Julian walked in, I mean
Speaker 3: everyone though Alexander was the same everyone who dressed up
Speaker 3: for this dance lacredible.
Speaker 4: His hair kind of up like that. He looked so good.
Speaker 4: I loved it. Everyone looked great, and I loved also,
Speaker 4: especially because of the way the writing was for Jana
Speaker 4: in the episode prior to this, in seven fourteen. You know,
Speaker 4: they made a lot of this guy hitting on her
Speaker 4: and her being barely dressed and all this stuff. I
Speaker 4: love that she came into the dance looking like Skipper,
Speaker 4: like Barbie's kid's sister, Like she looked beautiful, but she
Speaker 4: was in like little Bermuda shorts and like she wasn't
Speaker 4: in something like whoa Sexy, which obviously Jana can do.
Speaker 4: And I thought it was a very cool choice because
Speaker 4: her and Julian in a way came in looking more
Speaker 4: like siblings than like people on a date, and it
Speaker 4: was a really smart choice from the wardrobe department to
Speaker 4: try to signal that they were really there as friends.
Speaker 3: Mm hm, you know yeah. And again it's like, so
Speaker 3: that's why I wish that they had she hadn't said
Speaker 3: I'm still in love with him, because it's like they're
Speaker 3: doing all of these things right to pave a really
Speaker 3: cool friendship exactly By the way, speaking of her on set,
Speaker 3: do you remember last episode. We didn't really talk about this,
Speaker 3: but that director the caricature of a terrible director is like,
Speaker 3: let's let's let's see the scene. First of all, she
Speaker 3: has no scene partner, there is no other actor on
Speaker 3: set to run lines with, and she gets like four
Speaker 3: words in before he's like, it's terrible, it's whatever it is.
Speaker 4: And by the way, she's tearing up. She's fully emotionally
Speaker 4: present and he's like, terrible acting. I'm like, wait, what's
Speaker 4: happening here.
Speaker 3: That was so confusing to me because, like you said,
Speaker 3: first of all, I just felt like, if the director's
Speaker 3: doing that for you, it's like usually to run words
Speaker 3: like let's just hear the words if your scene partner's
Speaker 3: out there. She actually does the performance. She gets emotional,
Speaker 3: and he's like like he's not even paying attention. He's like,
Speaker 3: that's terrible. You should have And I think that's the
Speaker 3: moment where he like grabs her wrists and he.
Speaker 4: Goes her wrists. It's so gross.
Speaker 3: He makes some comment about her like needing to do
Speaker 3: better next time.
Speaker 4: It was like she says, can't you do anything right?
Speaker 4: What awful?
Speaker 3: Gasp? I did not.
Speaker 4: Okay, man, Janna's a pro because she she showed up beautifully,
Speaker 4: And yeah, I think you're right, especially because of the
Speaker 4: arc from fourteen to fifteen is so good for her.
Speaker 4: She's really, you know, mustering her strength and doing everything
Speaker 4: as right as she knows how to do. That's why
Speaker 4: it feels like a little bit of a sabotage to
Speaker 4: have her say the thing to Alexander at the end,
Speaker 4: because you're like, no, she's doing better than this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a sabotage. And it's also just not smart,
Speaker 3: like why would you tell the right hand man to
Speaker 3: the love interest of them?
Speaker 6: Just yes, you know.
Speaker 4: I Well, it was pretty wonderful regardless. I know we
Speaker 4: mentioned it, but I I did really love the sort
Speaker 4: of making up moment between Quinn and Kylie at the end.
Speaker 4: I remember that they had to be really careful. They
Speaker 4: basically put like a hair piece in Kylie Sasha's hair
Speaker 4: that they actually cut, so they basically put like fake
Speaker 4: hair in the back and put that in the locker,
Speaker 4: and I remember everyone being like, oh my god, oh
Speaker 4: my god, oh my god, oh my god, please don't
Speaker 4: cut any of her actual hair, and not feeling really stressful.
Speaker 4: I love how funny she was when Quinn's like, why
Speaker 4: do you have scissors in your Like I was gonna
Speaker 4: slash your tires?
Speaker 3: Would she pulled out a pair of scissors. It's funny
Speaker 3: because you see my notes, I'm like, why does she
Speaker 3: have a pair of scissors in her purse going to
Speaker 3: a school dance? And then underneath it, it's just never mind,
Speaker 3: they explained it right away.
Speaker 4: It's genius. Actually, yeah, it's so good. I I also
Speaker 4: thought Grubs was so sweet. It was nice to see
Speaker 4: him back, even though he barely did anything in the episode.
Speaker 4: To your point, such a big ensemble. I wish though
Speaker 4: that they'd had someone like why didn't Kylie ask for
Speaker 4: a drink? And he know what she wanted? Like Grubbs
Speaker 4: being the psychic bartender is such a good bit that
Speaker 4: that was the one thing I was sad didn't happen here.
Speaker 4: But the rest of it, I just loved it. I
Speaker 4: loved Jackson having the whole home alone thing and then
Speaker 4: doing that sped up like kid, you know, on a
Speaker 4: sugar rush, running around the house and falling over the
Speaker 4: furniture and all of it was just it was really fun.
Speaker 4: I did make a note and maybe you will remember this.
Speaker 4: At the end, Nathan shows up in his amazing eighties
Speaker 4: hero moment and she's like, whose car is that? And
Speaker 4: he says it's yours. Happy birthday baby. Do we ever
Speaker 4: see this Porsche that he bought again?
Speaker 3: I have no idea. That's a great question.
Speaker 4: I wrote it down. I was like, wait, I don't remember.
Speaker 4: Do we ever see this car again? Or is it
Speaker 4: literally just a joke or a bit rather for this
Speaker 4: episode because if we don't see it again, that's going
Speaker 4: to be annoying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I have no idea if we do or not?
Speaker 3: The uh? I just an unrelated question. Do did Mouth
Speaker 3: move back in with Millie?
Speaker 4: So he says he's going to stay a while, and
Speaker 4: obviously that's where he's staying m hm. But they haven't
Speaker 4: addressed it. But I was like, is he staying in
Speaker 4: Skills his old room or are they just like sharing
Speaker 4: a bed but they're broken up. I was curious about
Speaker 4: that as well.
Speaker 3: My honorable mention of this episode would be when Jamie
Speaker 3: hatches the plan to get himself home alone when he
Speaker 3: calls Junk and Fergie, uh is it is? It is called? No?
Speaker 3: I forget which ones which but I think it's junk.
Speaker 3: Hangs up the phone and he goes, Oh, I guess
Speaker 3: they don't. They don't. They don't need us to babysit
Speaker 3: Jamie today. He goes why, He says, uh, he said
Speaker 3: they're going in a different direction.
Speaker 4: In a different direction.
Speaker 3: That cracked me up. That's such a funny use because
Speaker 3: that's something they say in acting, like if you audition
Speaker 3: for a role and you don't get it, often a
Speaker 3: kind way of them saying is like, oh, they went
Speaker 3: in a different direction. So to hear that with babysitting
Speaker 3: cracked me up.
Speaker 4: It was a sweet little nod to people who know
Speaker 4: the industry and the fact that the episode is really booke.
Speaker 4: Ended with Julian's movie and he talks about how nervous
Speaker 4: he is for his you know, first big speech, and
Speaker 4: you see him in Brooke doing this thing together anyway,
Speaker 4: and at the end he makes the speech and they
Speaker 4: have that sweet moment of eye contact and then Julian
Speaker 4: says and action and it cuts.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I just loved it. I was like, it's so adorable
Speaker 4: and it's a really cool way to end on a director.
Speaker 4: And then you cut to in memory of John hughes
Speaker 4: and I was like, that's some of those little moments.
Speaker 4: I'm like, that's really movie and TV magic at its best.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was sweet. There was a funny moment in
Speaker 3: that when when Julian does that where he goes and
Speaker 3: action and for those who are just listening at home,
Speaker 3: I'm also showing he did like a hand gesture as
Speaker 3: if he was like a karate chop. Yeah, And I laughed,
Speaker 3: like that's I wonder if that was a choice on
Speaker 3: his part because he's a new director, because no directors
Speaker 3: ever do a hand gesture while they yell action because
Speaker 3: no one's looking at them. But I thought that's great
Speaker 3: if he's just a little awkward and doesn't know, so
Speaker 3: he's just like and action hand chop.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Or was it because they were like, do something
Speaker 4: into camera because the last shot of the episode is
Speaker 4: him looking down the barrel of the lens like who knows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was great, It's so sweet.
Speaker 4: Well, I think overall we actually really loved this episode.
Speaker 4: It made me very nostalgic.
Speaker 3: This episode was great. Did it seem like we were
Speaker 3: tearing it apart too much? I feel like there was
Speaker 3: a couple of little nitpicky things. But I think overall
Speaker 3: this episode was awesome.
Speaker 4: Here's the thing, and you know, we talk obviously a
Speaker 4: lot about therapy on our shows, so like no one
Speaker 4: is surprised that we are working through things. I mentioned
Speaker 4: to you that, like we were beginning to joke about
Speaker 4: something last week, and then I was like, ah, I
Speaker 4: don't know, I don't know. I never like to joke
Speaker 4: about I'm the person who gets very anxious joking about
Speaker 4: anything if I'm not the butt of the joke. Like
Speaker 4: I can't even finish a joke, usually if it's about
Speaker 4: someone else and people are like, yeah, but I'm in
Speaker 4: on the joke, but I get overly nervous, and I
Speaker 4: think because I threw myself into like a bundle of nerves,
Speaker 4: I just now I'm like, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 4: Maybe it's too much, is it too critical?
Speaker 6: A lot?
Speaker 4: I'm stuck in the loop of it, which is you know,
Speaker 4: a fun ADHD brain thing that happens to me and.
Speaker 3: Wonderful some of your neurospiciness.
Speaker 4: Uh huh.
Speaker 3: Do you have an honorable mention from this app? I?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean really the wardrobe for me is the
Speaker 4: honorable mention because it it really built the world. I
Speaker 4: was also going to say, though, I just because I'm
Speaker 4: looking at it. Some of those little things like going
Speaker 4: in a different direction and action, there's little things we
Speaker 4: know that felt like inside jokes. And when Julian asks
Speaker 4: Alex why there's no changes, why do we have a
Speaker 4: golden Rod script, and she was like, I wasn't gonna
Speaker 4: let the final pages be salmon.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: It's such a funny thing that if you work on
Speaker 4: a set, you know the color order of the pages
Speaker 4: that you get, and I always loved the Golden Rod
Speaker 4: pages the most and it just made me laugh. So
Speaker 4: I don't know, maybe it's our little inside industry film
Speaker 4: jokes that also get my honorable mention.
Speaker 3: It's a tie, yeah, because that joke is only for
Speaker 3: a very small audience.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. If you're not if you're not hip with the industry,
Speaker 3: you would never get that. All right, Well, if you're
Speaker 3: going to give it to wardrobe, I'm gonna give it
Speaker 3: to hair and makeup because between the two, I mean seriously,
Speaker 3: the wardrobe and the hair makeup. And this episode made
Speaker 3: me so happy, and also the music department just killed it.
Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
Speaker 3: This show always does a good job with music. But
Speaker 3: I mean, I love the eighties. I'm a child of
Speaker 3: the eighties, so it has a very special place in
Speaker 3: my heart. So yeah, this episode was right up my alley.
Speaker 6: Loved it.
Speaker 4: Okay, we've got a question, A listener question, Matilde, says Sophia.
Speaker 4: In a recent episode, you said to the characters, weren't
Speaker 4: allowed to have pets. Yes, nobody on the production side
Speaker 4: wanted to deal with animals. If you all had pets,
Speaker 4: what would your character have? And why? I mean, is
Speaker 4: Clay like a Golden Retriever guy? Or is he the
Speaker 4: guy that has a ferret.
Speaker 3: Let's be honest, Clay himself is a bit of a
Speaker 3: Golden Retriever. So you know how they say the pet
Speaker 3: dog owners usually look like their dog. Yeah, it would
Speaker 3: be pretty on brand if Clay had a Golden Retriever.
Speaker 3: But that being said, as soon as you said this question,
Speaker 3: my first thought was, would Cla have a.
Speaker 4: Monkey like Ross used too on Friends?
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, I.
Speaker 4: Mean people definitely look like their dogs. I have a big,
Speaker 4: old square jaw and I've always had like a big,
Speaker 4: square headed piple.
Speaker 3: Oh you did, I haven't thought about that. It was
Speaker 3: a gall with one eye right, yeah, Oh, she was
Speaker 3: so lovely.
Speaker 4: He was really the best.
Speaker 3: What was a boy?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Patch, I thought it was a girl. Yeah Patch. I
Speaker 3: remember Patch in the hair Maker and.
Speaker 4: Penny was the little girl, the little orange one. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh so yummy.
Speaker 3: I love a sweet pit man.
Speaker 4: Oh they're so good. I I could see if I
Speaker 4: think about the ways were similar. I think Brooke Davis
Speaker 4: would also love a rescue dog like that, because she
Speaker 4: she likes to take bets on people. But if I'm
Speaker 4: not trying to relate us too closely, I think in
Speaker 4: my fantasy world because I'm really allergic to cats, so
Speaker 4: I can't have one, even though I think they're pretty amazing.
Speaker 4: I think Brooke would have one of those like gorgeous
Speaker 4: little Bengal cats, you know, the ones that have like
Speaker 4: the leopard spots on them and the green eyes. But
Speaker 4: their house cats whoa, No, they are so gorgeous. They
Speaker 4: look like this.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, yeah that is a good looking cat that
Speaker 3: also feels very Brooke Davis.
Speaker 4: Don't you think she'd have like a chic little kitty.
Speaker 4: Oh exactly, look at their little eyes.
Speaker 3: Wow.
Speaker 4: Like if I would not be constantly unable to see
Speaker 4: and sneezing. I would have one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not worth theologies, but it's a good looking cat.
Speaker 4: Right, So yeah, I think Brooke might be a cat lady.
Speaker 3: I love it. Are we spinning a wheel or we
Speaker 3: just we should?
Speaker 4: We didn't a wheel last time.
Speaker 3: We didn't.
Speaker 4: We got so excited talking about things with Austin we
Speaker 4: just bumped right out, what do we got most likely
Speaker 4: to get their pilot's license?
Speaker 3: I mean it's Chase, he did agreed, yep.
Speaker 4: Has anybody actually done that on our show? Though? Like
Speaker 4: in real life.
Speaker 3: Tyler Hilton stop. I don't know if Tyler actually finished
Speaker 3: his certification, but he definitely started the process and has
Speaker 3: flowing planes.
Speaker 4: Whoa, Okay, wow, I missed that.
Speaker 3: We got it. I was actually just talking about this.
Speaker 3: I was like, when do you come back on the show, dude,
Speaker 3: I'm dying to get you on, and he said not
Speaker 3: till season nine? No, is that possible?
Speaker 4: We should probably just have him join us for an
Speaker 4: episode and like watch and give us commentary.
Speaker 3: We should because he's he's just so funny and such
Speaker 3: a great guy. We should yet, we should do that.
Speaker 3: We can also ask me about this flying because I'm
Speaker 3: pretty sure had something he did. In fact, at the convention,
Speaker 3: we were talking and he made some friends. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like they tell you when you're learning to fly.
Speaker 3: I was like, don't say that, Like that's relatable to me. Guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're like, sorry, what.
Speaker 3: I've never flown a plane. Yeah?
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, well maybe we we need to get
Speaker 4: him on here.
Speaker 3: We'll get him right here. Well, let's tell the folks
Speaker 3: we got next week. So what do we got?
Speaker 4: Okay, next episode. We will be back together for season seven,
Speaker 4: episode sixteen. My attendance is bad, but my intentions are good.
Speaker 3: That's a great title.
Speaker 4: It's a very good title.
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