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UM, 45 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: I am extremely excited that Peter Gidrion, who was seen 46 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: in the Chris Bell documentary A Leaf of Faith about 47 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: creat Um. I mistakenly said Mark Bell a few episodes ago. 48 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: I think Mark is his brother who's featured in pretty 49 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: much all his documentaries. But Chris Bell is a documentary filmmaker. Um, 50 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: before we get to him. Biggest news is the suicide bomber, 51 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: which is being covered at the news rep dot com. Yeah, 52 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: and mon Beach yesterday it was uh, you know, ostensibly 53 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: isis although it's you know, these groups all kind of 54 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:18,680 Speaker 1: like run together at a certain point, but probably it 55 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: was isis Um and they hit a restaurant in mon 56 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:28,239 Speaker 1: bees and in northern Syria the Kurdish held areas, and 57 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: it uh, it killed one Green Beret. Um. There were 58 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: three other American fatalities. UM. My understanding was one was 59 00:04:36,839 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: an interpreter. One was an intel guy and the other 60 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: with civil affairs. And then there were also additionally two 61 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,760 Speaker 1: guys who were wounded UM and both of them were 62 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: Green Berets as I was told to the two w 63 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: I A s. So that was pretty horrific. UM. You know, 64 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: we lost four people yesterday. As some of you probably saw, 65 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: footage emerged of this UM very interesting helicopter that flew 66 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: in and evac the casualties. UM. Appears it was probably 67 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: one of the clandestine helicopters that UM Jaysack has at 68 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: their disposal. UM. So some information came out about that also, 69 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: but we're just we're still reporting on that and covering that. UM. 70 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: I think that you know, from my perspective, the timing 71 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: is not an accident. ISIS wants us there. They want 72 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: to keep us there. You know, Trump is trying to 73 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: withdraw it appears from Syria even though we're seesawing on that. 74 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: But it does seem that he wants to pull us 75 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: out of there. Uh. These groups like ISIS and al 76 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: Qaeda there there stated strategy in many cases is to 77 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,359 Speaker 1: bait us into attacking them. That's why a lot of 78 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: Taliban elements in Afghanistan rebranded themselves as isis Is to 79 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: keep us there because they as long as we're there, 80 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 1: they can claim some sort of legitimacy by saying we're 81 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,600 Speaker 1: fighting these foreigners, these outsiders trying to colonize our country. 82 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: You know, we're fighting the West, we're fighting imperialism, we're 83 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: fighting the Christian Crusaders or whatever the fuck um bullshit 84 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: stories they want to spend. So it's it's it behooves 85 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: these terrorist organizations to bait America in and keep us there, 86 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: and when we leave, they have less legitimacy because now 87 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: they're just fighting their fellow Muslims, their fellow Arabs, um. 88 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: And that's how I would perceive that attack, that they 89 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: were trying to send a message, no Isis is not dead, 90 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: don't go running away quite yet. Obviously, some really unfortunate 91 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: news and really sad news, um. But what you're saying 92 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: on foreign policy actually is reminding me of something I 93 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: took a screenshot of and I forgot all about it. 94 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: I'm glad that you reminded me of kind of the 95 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: infighting going on in the Republican Party over um foreign 96 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: policy right now. In that fighting over everything right now, Well, 97 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: I saw that Rand Paul tweeted, he was like, you 98 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 1: own and Rand Paul was not exactly a Donald Trump 99 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: then when he was running for president, but he was like, 100 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: Donald Trump is keeping his campaign promises. We need to 101 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: declare victory in these areas, um, you know, basically that 102 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: type of thing. And then I saw and I think 103 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: you're probably not going to agree with this, But a 104 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: former guest of the podcast, Dan Crenshaw, tweeted at Rand Paul, 105 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: at Rand Paul is giving the president bad advice. There 106 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: are those of there are those of us who have 107 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: sacrificed for our nation who know the importance of this 108 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: terrorist threat and the need to stay vigilant. We go 109 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: there so they don't come here. It's that simple. It's 110 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: really not that simple, though. I mean, these are very 111 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: complicated countries, and we're waiting into cultures and conflicts that 112 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: we don't we're not really stakeholders in, and the local 113 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: population knows that, and we don't necessarily understand the drivers 114 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: for these conflicts. And even if we do, we're certainly 115 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 1: not prepared to address them. I mean, we're not going 116 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: to stay there and institute some of Marshall plan for Syria. 117 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:04,679 Speaker 1: I mean, come on, like We're gonna rehabilitate that place 118 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 1: like we did to Berlin after World War Two. Like, 119 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: get fucking serious here. Um, So yeah, I mean I'm 120 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: gonna have to disagree with Dan. And but I mean 121 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: Dan also did not really elaborate too much there. I mean, 122 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: that's that's a very blanch statement. I was going to 123 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: add to this too. So that was a post on 124 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: Twitter because I realized I remembered there was more to it. 125 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: This was. I mean, it's not much more, but this 126 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: was the caption he wrote for that, you know, screenshott 127 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: post on Instagram which is at Dan Cranshaw t X. 128 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: Thus far, the President has found the right balance for 129 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: our wars, avoid nation building while keeping a special operations 130 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: presence to maintain pressure on a very much alive enemy. 131 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 1: Please do not veer from this course, Mr President. Our 132 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: troops sacrifices must not be in vain. Well, I'm not 133 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: sure it's so much Donald Trump's position. I think he 134 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: inherited these wars. I don't think he feels any obligation 135 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: to sustain them because you know it's Donald Trump. You know, 136 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: he was the outsider. He ran on that. Um, he 137 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: never made these he was not a politician previously to this, 138 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 1: so he wasn't making these decisions like let's invade this 139 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: country to that country. So I don't think he feels 140 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: um morally or ideologically tethered to these wars in the 141 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:21,320 Speaker 1: same way. Um that maybe somebody like you know, a 142 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: George Bush or a Bill Clinton might um. But that said, 143 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: I think Trump inherited these wars, and he is to 144 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: some extent a victim of the institution he works for. 145 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: He's a president, he's not a dictator, and I think 146 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: he would pull us out if he could. But he's 147 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: finding out what a quagmire that is. Yeah. And also 148 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: when I read that caption, it's one of those strange 149 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: things because Dan Crenshaw is a guy who's fought in 150 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: these wars. Dan Crenshaw is a guy who nearly made 151 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: the ultimate sacrifice. He lost his eye. And you know, 152 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,679 Speaker 1: it does make wonder from that perspective, is it, you know, 153 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: was the idea of was it's all done in vain? 154 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: That that hits home? Well, I mean that's the sunk 155 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: cost fallacy, the idea that we have already poured so 156 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: much into it, so we need to keep pouring more 157 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: and more into it. I mean, it's like Vietnam, you know, 158 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: just keep sending more and more troops and in the 159 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: end it's a strategic defeat. Anyway, do how many American 160 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: lives do we keep throwing away on a hopeless endeavor? 161 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: At some point you have to make the mature decision. 162 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: Even though we served in this conflict, um, Dan and 163 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: I both did. We both have you know, our hearts, 164 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: our hearts in it. We we know our blood, sweat 165 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: and tears invested in it. Um. But how many generations 166 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: of future Americans do we condemned to the same fate 167 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: simply because we we have trouble letting go? You know? 168 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: You know It's kind of interesting to me is that 169 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:55,439 Speaker 1: Dan Cranshaw's position, at least from that tweet and Instagram post, 170 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: is actually I think almost the opposite of a guy 171 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: like Mark Boyott, who we had on who's like, we 172 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: need to nation Bill that I feel like that was 173 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 1: a position we need to stay there for several generations. Um. 174 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: But in the same way, we've had a presence and 175 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: in other places, and Dan Crenshaw is saying we need 176 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: to be there, but we don't need the nation, right, 177 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: which means the problem goes on forever because these insurgencies 178 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: will go on forever until the local issues are resolved. 179 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: Issues of corruption, poverty, all all of these things that 180 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:32,960 Speaker 1: involved the nation state has to resolve or at least 181 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: attempt to address for people. So if you're not going 182 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: to resolve those issues, that just means the insurgency goes 183 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: on indefinitely. So my question for someone like Dan Crenshaw 184 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: would be, what is America's national interests in each of 185 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: these countries where we have troops deployed, and what is that? 186 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: What is your strategy, what is your plan, and what 187 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: is the end game that you're hoping to accomplish? Here um, 188 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: and by the way, here us this on the podcast 189 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: with us. You know, it's been a while since I 190 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 1: heard it before making that best of, But while I 191 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: was making the Best of, uh, you know, he made 192 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: the same exact argument with you. And when you said, 193 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: like how long do we stay? There? Are we there forever? 194 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: And I remember Dan's responsors like, yeah, we've got a 195 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: presence in Germany, We've had a presence in Japan. Yeah 196 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: it's a little it's a little different, though, is that 197 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: I would agree where you have stable first world nations 198 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: with experiences in governance and democracy and freedom and all 199 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: that good stuff, all that jazz and and and well 200 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: developed countries like Korea, Japan and Germany. And we have 201 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: formed an international partnership or an alliance to work with 202 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: one another. Okay, that's one thing, But occupying by force 203 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: foreign countries in the Middle East and with this sort 204 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: of haphazard strategy like maybe we'll stay there for five 205 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: hundred years and they'll turn into a Jeffersonian democracy, Like 206 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: that's not a strategy, Like we need We owe it 207 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: to ourselves in our country and we owe it to 208 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: our troops to offer something better than that. Yeah, well, 209 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 1: I see that we've connected actually with Peter's wife, Kelly 210 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: on on Skype. I think it'll just be Peter on 211 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: with us, but although they're both the co founder of 212 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: this organization, both Air Force vets, so let's get right 213 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: into it. On with us is Peter Gidrey, former Security Forces, 214 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: Air Force airman and co founder of Forgotten Not Gone, 215 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,680 Speaker 1: which is a veteran for purpose organization out of Las Vegas. 216 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 1: Their mission is to stomp out veterans suicide and find 217 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 1: alternative therapy for veterans. UH The other co founder of 218 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: Forgotten Not Gone is Peter's wife, Kelly, also former Air Force. 219 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: We just got to speak to for a couple of 220 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: minutes before bringing on Peter. Um. The main thing I 221 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: really want to get into today is creat him because 222 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: the way that I became familiar with you was from 223 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: the documentary A Leaf of Faith, that Chris Bell documentary. Um. 224 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: But before we do, I would love to just get 225 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: into your background in the Air Force and where it 226 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: all began. Yeah, went in the Air Force. It was 227 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: just a childhood dream. Both of my grandfather served and 228 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: a few of my uncles served in the military, and 229 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: so I had the privilege of being a Security Forces 230 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: member and that's where I met my beautiful wife. She 231 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 1: did Security Forces as well, and that's how initially everything 232 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: just started from our our military service. But during that 233 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: whole process, I had got injured, you know, doing that 234 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: that line of work, and my after care of you know, 235 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: leaving the military, that's when things starting to spiral out 236 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: of control. And that's where you know, brings us to 237 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: today and the story behind that. And could you tell 238 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: us a little bit about your injuries? Well, uh, security Forces. 239 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: So my primary specialty in beginning with an M sixty 240 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: machine gunner, and we worked in the restricted areas guarding 241 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: the Priority A resources, nuclear weapons of the nature, and 242 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: so just the day to day grind carrying a forty 243 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: four pound weapon rucksack, the different things that was detailed. 244 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: Your knees break down, your back from that experience, Uh 245 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: my door and dirt car can't even pronounce it. Uh. 246 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 1: My internal system was all throwing off the hormone levels 247 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: and things like that. But my body just spired out 248 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: of control. And all I ever got, uh during the 249 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: military service, was narcotics to be able to deal with 250 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: the disabilities. I didn't get you know, physical therapy, rehab, 251 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: things of that nature. And so I started having side 252 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: effects from the actual medicine as well, start throwing up 253 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 1: blood and literally I just started getting sicker and sicker 254 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: for a period of time until you know, finding crowdile 255 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: and how do you get hooked up with Chris Bell 256 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: when he started this documentary. One of our actually our 257 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 1: neighbors who has urban Ice owns that company, Mr Kelly Dunn. 258 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 1: You know, he had saw our nonprofit in his same 259 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: ability where we were running our nonprofit out in nor 260 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: Fellows days and he just always saw us riding their bikes. 261 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: And one day he got locked out of his place 262 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: and he ended up knocking on our door, and uh, 263 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: you know, I end up telling him he saw the products, 264 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: and end up telling him I was taking that, and 265 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: he told me he was the owner, and it was 266 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: just it was just a blessing to be able to 267 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: meet him. But just the way we met him was just, uh, 268 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: it was weird. Just again he got locked out of 269 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: his house. But from from that period of time, I 270 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: was able to meet the owner of organic Ice and 271 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: I was already taking his product a year prior to that. 272 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: And so since that point he started donating to our 273 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: our local veterans. Uh, the Urban Ice Organics has been 274 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 1: given us a lot of free samples for our veterans 275 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 1: to try. And uh two years later, that's how that 276 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: documentary you know came to be. Was that initial meeting, 277 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: I was doing a little bit of research myself because 278 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: I had never heard of creatim until Ian was telling 279 00:16:53,760 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: me about it. Actually, I was wondering if you could 280 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about what that actually is, 281 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: because it correct me if I'm wrong. It comes from 282 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: a leaf from a plant out of Thailand, right, yes, sir, yes, exactly. 283 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: It's just a natural product. You know, they capitalize it. 284 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: The particular brand that I take is triple tested, and 285 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 1: that was the difference of some of the other brands 286 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: that you may have. You heard about some of the 287 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: people other people that are you know, buying in bulk 288 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: the same product, you know, they're making out of their basement, 289 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: you know, and had some contaminants of things of that nature. 290 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: But because it's because it's completely unregulated, right, isn't that 291 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: the reason why some people are just making it left 292 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: and right? Yeah, just like you know many other natural selplements, 293 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna order in bulk and repackage them 294 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,159 Speaker 1: and things of that nature. But the particular one that 295 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: we have, and with the leap of faith that I've 296 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 1: been taking, is actually in the laboratory, you know, pharmaceutical. 297 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: Then it comes already packaged to the company. So nobody's 298 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: actually making it in their house or you know, at 299 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: a local store. Since you're based out of Vegas. Is 300 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 1: this like a big thing there right now? Because I 301 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: could tell you in here in New York, I'm starting 302 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 1: to see a few um gas stations here and there 303 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: that's that's say like we sell create them, but it's 304 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: far and few between. However, when I was in South Florida, 305 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: you cannot go anywhere without seeing Kaba bars, which is 306 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, based out of cretum and create um. And 307 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: I think it's because unfortunately, that is like the place 308 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: that people go to to recover from opioid addiction, and 309 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: you know, they're looking for any alternative they could find. 310 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 1: Is has it caught on in Vegas? It still knew, 311 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: you know how, I actually admit it was a local company. 312 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 1: It's called Pure Health mom and pop stores probably square 313 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: foot place and they had to display there. So I 314 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: wasn't a person to go to a smoke shop or 315 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: anything of that nature. And so I made it through 316 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: a regular you know, supplement store of you know what 317 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: five years ago now when I start taking it. But 318 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: the same people that a MoMA pop team they work 319 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: owns that store. They taught me about juicing prior to that. 320 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: So I learned about the Gershon juicing that helped me 321 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: stop throwing up the blood and help me start bouncing 322 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: back for these disabilities that I had. So I entrusted 323 00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: them to least, you know, try the crowdam from the 324 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: from the beginning, because they had helped me with some 325 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: other disabilities I was working through. But to expand on that, 326 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: because I was asking what creedum is, but I still 327 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: don't really understand, like why would you take it? Like 328 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: what's it do? That's a natural pain reliever, basically the 329 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: same type of category you were saying as pain relief 330 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: and maybe as an asker into that nature. But like 331 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: for myself, I had g I issues and so all 332 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,320 Speaker 1: the other medicine they were given me was caused me 333 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 1: to throw a blood even further. And again that's why 334 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 1: I wasspired out of control. So the crowdam is allowed 335 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: me to come off the oxy code on all that 336 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: zombie dope and now I'm just getting ahold of my 337 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,520 Speaker 1: pain just enough to be able to use my recome 338 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: and trike and then get that release that I need 339 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: to get. You know, I'm really angry a lot of 340 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: times because I'm just like when I woke up this 341 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: morning having the sciatic pain I'm having his spasms, took 342 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: to Crowdham pills. It was uh just enough just to 343 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: relieve that burden for me so I could start moving 344 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: forward my life. And that's what Cradham has been for me, 345 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: just that that that little bit of hope to you know, 346 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: allow me to get out the house without that that 347 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: deadening effect that comes with opio opiates. I suppose. Yeah, 348 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: the actual particular one I take, I got behind me, uh, 349 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: the Magda one this is has a little bit of 350 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: energy behind this particular bloin right here. But this is 351 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: my favorite strand. And like I said, Pure Health is 352 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: originally who introduced me to this product before I knew 353 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: about organic guys. It's just a regular mom and pop 354 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: store here in Las Vegas. And so I assume you're 355 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: on Creative right now as you're talking to us. You 356 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: seem completely coherent. So it's not it's not something that 357 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: gets you high. It's not. It's not, you know, like 358 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: an arcotic or anything. No, far from it. Like I said, 359 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: it says kill the pain, not the patient, you know. 360 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: And that's the whole thing where we're educating as far 361 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: as our nonprofit as well. We gotta educate our veterans 362 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: better how to manage and better manage their pain. It 363 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: doesn't always go away the actual physical pain. If you 364 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: think about our Vietnam era veterans, Vietnam is fifty plus 365 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: years ago. But those guys are still suffering from the 366 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: same disabilities that they received back in the seventies, right, 367 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: And so how do we help our veterans be able 368 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 1: to maintain on a daily function without being drugged up 369 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: on their narcotics? And like, in my instance, the same 370 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: medicine they were giving me to control the spasms I'm having, 371 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: it says right there it causes vomiting. So if I 372 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: already have issues with vomiting blood, I mean literally I 373 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: lost twenty pounds throwing up blood, why would you give 374 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: me a medicine to control spasms? But I'm gonna be 375 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: throwing up blood, you know? And it really and this 376 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: is the first time since leaving the military, I was 377 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: medically separating No. Two and who I found crowding with 378 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,239 Speaker 1: forgot had not gone. My life was absolute mess. And 379 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 1: so that's what CRAWDA has done for me, not necessary 380 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: worry about the pills so much. Is is what it's 381 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 1: allowed me to actually do because now I'm controlling my 382 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: pain a lot better. So what's crazy about the whole 383 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: situation and and watching a leaf of faith, is that 384 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 1: we're talking about this. This is a natural supplement. It 385 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: doesn't get you high. It seems to be having a 386 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 1: positive effect on people like yourself, and yet there are 387 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: politicians that want to make this completely illegal. And it's 388 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,480 Speaker 1: it's confusing because from what I saw the documentary at least, 389 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: and of course Chris is like an advocate of this, 390 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna say it's a completely unbiased documentary. 391 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: But there's I think one case of of that kid 392 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: who committed suicide, what was on a plethora of other stuff, 393 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:44,199 Speaker 1: some antidepressants, and so it just unless there's you know, 394 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: tons of documented stuff there there's people dying for more 395 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: cigarettes alcohol, Like why it's my kind of mind bogging 396 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 1: of why they would want to ban this completely unless 397 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: it's just all about the government making more profit, um, 398 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: you know, regulating it. I could understand, because as you're saying, 399 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 1: people are making this in their basement, and the supplement industry, 400 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: as we all know, it's very unregulated, so they could 401 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: just mix this with all types of fillers and who 402 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: knows what's in it. So that's why you got to 403 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: go to a reputable source. But the idea of making 404 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 1: it illegal, I really don't get. Yeah, and you know, 405 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: last time when they have made it a Schedule one 406 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: UH control supplement a few years ago that within that 407 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: same thirty days they had came out with some type 408 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: of pharmaceutical product that had a component of the of 409 00:23:31,240 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: crowdom in there. I guess just the difference is the 410 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: fact that it's not FDA regulate so ian you know, 411 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: doctors can't prescribe this. But if it's having positive effects, 412 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: why why not have people tried this out before they 413 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: get them on opioids or something. Sounds similar to the 414 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: debates we've had about, you know, medical marijuana over the years. Yeah, 415 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 1: except the only difference is it's not impairing you. I mean, 416 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,120 Speaker 1: I assume right now you can go ahead, drive a car, 417 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, do whatever you wanted you during your day 418 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: on freedom and wouldn't be any different. You can follow 419 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: our progress. We have a Strada app and you can 420 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: see where we're riding in Las Vegas, where we're all 421 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: over the place. I mean, we're literally we're controlling our pain. 422 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, we have some things 423 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: we're embarrassed about and disabilities limitations. I want to move 424 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: forward with my life though, I don't want to sit 425 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,800 Speaker 1: in a v a hospital talking about all things wrong 426 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 1: with me. Crowding is allowing us to control the pain 427 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: and get out the house, you know, And that's what 428 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,320 Speaker 1: it's all about. That's our actually slogan, get out the 429 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: damn house. What are some of like the other stories 430 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: you've seen, the veterans you're working with who have had 431 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: a positive experience using it, well, our our local uh 432 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: you know, teammates that ride with us, they use it 433 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,720 Speaker 1: as well. In the same stories. Particular, young lady had 434 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: just posted on her social feed about it. We're leaving 435 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: her mind grain headaches and she was depressed, you know, 436 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,160 Speaker 1: and a lot of doom and gloom stuff of story 437 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: that she had. But the crowd Um has been able 438 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: to help her. Now just finished, she just graduated you 439 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: l V the college as a sociology degree and December 440 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: over here. So I got a control over pain two 441 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: years ago using Crowdham. Now graduating with your bachelor's going 442 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: to your master's degree. That's what we need to do. 443 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: We need to find solutions to help, you know, our veterans, 444 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: but also our community move forward. And that's what Crowdham 445 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,199 Speaker 1: has been really able to do, has been able to 446 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: help some of those people control the pain. That's causing 447 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: you to want to, you know, inject yourself with heroin 448 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: or something of that nature, and now you would find 449 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 1: enough relief from the crowdham to worry. Hey, I don't 450 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: need all these other self destructive measures I was fighting 451 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: comfort in before. That sounds excellent to me. So let's 452 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: get into your organization forgotten not gone, As you were saying, 453 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: you guys are riding all over Vegas. What what? Because 454 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,879 Speaker 1: I've seen the videos. What exactly is that stuff that 455 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: you guys ride? And it's it's interesting what they called 456 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: velomo bills. Velimo bill recumbent trikes. So just like I'm 457 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: sitting right now, you're in a recumbent position and so 458 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 1: the pedals are actually in front of us. And so 459 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: it allows me to overcome the spasms and the pain 460 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: I have with my back because I'm sitting down. And 461 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: then now I don't have to worry about my vision 462 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: issues and things because I have three wills, so I'm safe. 463 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,400 Speaker 1: I'm secure in the bike. We have the shell on them. 464 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 1: So even like it's raining right now, I'm getting outside, 465 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: I got electric assists on the bike. So even when 466 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 1: my knees go out, everything that's wrong with me I'm 467 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 1: able to overcome that one pedal at a time, and 468 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: as they're just incredible, uh bicycles and you so you 469 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: guys ride around on the it's not just you like 470 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: several people I guess have other you know, similar issues. Yes, 471 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: so we're just we're a veteran peer support network, just 472 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: fellow veterans serving one another. It's really just that simple. 473 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you know, we we 474 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 1: got a doom and gloom story to tell you, but 475 00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: I don't want to bore you. We're just moving forward 476 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,359 Speaker 1: right now. And this is how we're moving forward. To 477 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 1: crowd them got me out of the bed, off the couch, 478 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: the bike, and who was gave me something positive to 479 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 1: do instead of you know, going to the local bar 480 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: and self medicating. I would veterans all day long, we're 481 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 1: riding bikes and this is the first time since leaving 482 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: the military that it feels life feels like worth living 483 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 1: another day. And what are you guys doing with forgotten 484 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: not gone? You know, because I know it's a veterans organization? 485 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,679 Speaker 1: Five O one C three what exactly do you guys do? 486 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: So we're actually moving up posts, have our grand opening 487 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 1: of our new location on February three, and we're gonna 488 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: be located right across the street from the North Las 489 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 1: Vegas Airport at a commercial center run by a Army 490 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 1: veteran over there. We won't hold that against are they 491 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: still good people? But uh yeah, they were generous enough 492 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: to give us a space in there so we could 493 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 1: run our kids programs and have a meeting spot because 494 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: since the last February we lost our original location that 495 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: we've been in the operating now the last thirty months, 496 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,480 Speaker 1: and so we got over forty bikes right now, but 497 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: they're stuffed away in shipping containers and we have to 498 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: pull them out and you know what, they're transport them 499 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: to the local parks to meet every body, which is 500 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: a chore. And so we're just looking to expand this 501 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 1: uh coming month, start getting our program to be able 502 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,439 Speaker 1: to have our weekly rides again. If you go to 503 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: our YouTube channel Forgotten Not Gone Org, you can see 504 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: it actually visually see us riding the bikes. We had 505 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: something called our Saturday Night Survivor's Ride, and every Saturday 506 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: night for over three years, we would meet up at 507 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: the last location and whoever is riding that day Forgotten 508 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: Not Gone provided a free recombing trite for that veteran 509 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: or their family, and we get almost bikes. We go 510 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,119 Speaker 1: downtown Las Vegas instead of us necessarily going to bars 511 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: and you know, having fun. We're right next to the bars, 512 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 1: pedaling next to it. We're on Las Vegas Boulevard Freemont East. 513 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: You know the same thing that tours come spending thousands 514 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: of dollars to our community. See, we're able to experience 515 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: that on our recombing trikes, just having fun and that's 516 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: just the opposite of being depressed. We just keep it simple, 517 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, keep it simple, stupid. That's what they taught us, right, 518 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: and I would assume with the logo you know, on 519 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: all these bes, it also just raises awareness for the 520 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: main cause, which is veteran suicide, which is alternative therapy 521 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,400 Speaker 1: for vets. And I would think people see that they 522 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 1: want to get I mean, if I just saw you 523 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,720 Speaker 1: guys riding around on these trikes, I'd be like, what 524 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: the heck is going on here? It raised his interest, 525 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: that's right, and that's what's helped me overcome the labels 526 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: at the v A placed on me. You know, when 527 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: I went to like the war related Illness Center. They said, 528 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 1: you've got PTSD and this and that. Uh, And just 529 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: six months ago, I lost my mental health provider that 530 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 1: I had for over, you know, three years. Just all 531 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: of a sudden, I showed up to my appointment. She 532 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: no longer with the V anymore. I was like, you know, 533 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: somebody at least called me or something. And so this 534 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: new doctor I had to see over there and they're saying, well, 535 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,280 Speaker 1: you know you've got PTSD, you gotta take these pills. 536 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: And uh, it was just a horrible experience just six 537 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: months ago. And uh, you know, I praised the Lord 538 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: and my wife was able to come to the next 539 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: appointment and talk to her enable articulate a little bit better. 540 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: But from that point, I want to say, may until today, 541 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: I've just had some post traumatic growth. I would say 542 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: I understand that those people over there, that's their best 543 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: advice that they can give a veteran, and they that's 544 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 1: the best advice because they didn't serve or do the 545 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: things we do. What I need and what I experienced. 546 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: Now in the last six months, I need to be 547 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: around other veterans, and I'm around in a team of 548 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: incredible veterans, people far better than me and everything, and 549 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: they've inspired me to live another day. This is the 550 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: actual therapy that I needed the whole time. I could 551 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: have saved you know, ten fifteen years of doom and 552 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: gloom stories had I been around the same type of 553 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: veterans I am today, veteran peer support. That's what it's 554 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: all about, veterans, servant veterans. I couldn't agree more. And 555 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: I think we've always preached that on here. Um. The 556 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: thing that's interesting with the documentary, and I do think 557 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: people should see it. The Crisp Beled documentary Relief of Faith. 558 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: Is that so he talks about And I followed all 559 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: this guy's documentaries. I mean they're all amazing, but yeah, 560 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: Trophy Kids was great. He Um. He talks about how 561 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: previously when he did prescription, thought he was on all 562 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: these opioids and he got off them during the making 563 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: of this documentary and he had to, you know, go 564 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 1: to the Malibu rehab center where he would usually visit 565 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: and tell them, hey, I'm on creatum like, but I'm 566 00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: completely sober. Is this accepted here? And it's weird because 567 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: a lot of people are unaware of what it is, 568 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: so they can't really give their take on it. Uh. 569 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: Some people are like, hey, if it's helping you, that's great. 570 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: I'm wondering when you go to the v A and 571 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: you say, hey, I'm not going to take these pills, 572 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: but I'm using creatum, Like, what's their response. It was 573 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: a lot of backlash and using just any type of 574 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: all from alternative therapy. You know, even though if we 575 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 1: want to get into the topic of cannabis, you know, 576 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: it's the same thing. They had a close mind. You know, 577 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 1: if we put this label on you, you need to 578 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: take these uh drugs as FDA approved, even though they're 579 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: going to have side effects you're throwing up blood. You 580 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: need to take it because their FDA approved, And if 581 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: you don't take them, that means you're not disabled. And 582 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 1: I think that's a challenge instead of helping these veterans 583 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: again when they're getting out the military, we're just drugging 584 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: them up. And that's just trying to bad medicine, Like 585 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: across the board, that's just bad medicine. Yes, you have 586 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: these negative side effects, and then they tell you all, 587 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: if you stopped taking them, you're not disabled. Yeah, I've been. 588 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: It was the veteran peer support being around my fellow 589 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: veterans that helped me live uh without the medicine. I've 590 00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,479 Speaker 1: been around a lot of Vietnam mirror veterans, and I 591 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: understand that they suffered worse than I've ever suffered. But 592 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: because of that, I've I've been able to better manage 593 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: my life because of that, and I'm just a huge 594 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: opponent again of veteran peer support and again now I'm 595 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: able to help other veterans, even educate them about the 596 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: crowd them that they could find some relief. We're not 597 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 1: gonna get high, We're not going to have a good time. 598 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna promise you all this, you know pinus 599 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: sky thing, but I can assure you that this is 600 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: what I've done to come off all the zombie dope 601 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 1: and to leave that worthless state of feelings that I 602 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: felt so worthless about my life for so long. And 603 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: you know, just being here in front of you guys today, man, 604 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm just filled with joy because that's what that Crawdham 605 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: has been. Give me a little bit of hope physically 606 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: now of all those drugs, and my mind is starting 607 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: to come back. I can articulally words better. But prior 608 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 1: to this I was stuttering I had. It was like 609 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: retardation going on. It was just a horrible experience, you know, 610 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: my life. Did your wife have any type of similar experience, 611 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: because as we mentioned, she's an Air Force bet, she's 612 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 1: the co founder of the organization um has creative helped her. Yeah, 613 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, she found comfort in alcohol. So, and that's 614 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: what we're understanding. Different people choose different self destructive measures. 615 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: You know from my g I issues, I couldn't drink, 616 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: so I didn't have that hurdle that I had overcome alcohol. 617 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 1: But at that point, from she's leaving the military, having 618 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: the things wrong with her, uh internally as well, that 619 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: was damaged to her, she felt comfort and uh you 620 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: know oxy code on things of the nature she got 621 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: caught up in. Now that CREWDHAM does help, you know 622 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: actually too for a lot of women should tell, especially 623 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: when they're on their mentorals. That actually gives women a 624 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 1: lot of relief in the stomach region all that and 625 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: you know when you're taking some of the other medicine 626 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: it calls this stomach irritation. But Crowdham has allow you 627 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: to be able to give that relief. Well, the website 628 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: is forgotten not gone dot org, which has a link 629 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: to all the social media. If people are in the 630 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,319 Speaker 1: loss Vegas area, you know, it's interesting back actually is 631 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 1: that I think next week is shot show, right, Uh, yeah, 632 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: that would make sense. Yeah, I would think there'd be 633 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 1: some vets who want to hook up with you guys, 634 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: probably by the time this is up. But if people 635 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: are in the area or live in the Vegas area, 636 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, um, how could they get hooked up with you? 637 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,520 Speaker 1: And also what do you have on the horizon? Well, 638 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: moving into our new location to build out as happening 639 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: as we speak. So February third is supposed to be 640 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: the actual, uh you don't launch of the new location. 641 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:02,479 Speaker 1: We have three different veteran organizations in there. It's called 642 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: the House of Fame Las Vegas, and so we're gonna 643 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: be doing some great things for our community and we're 644 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: just excited. We're expanding, getting a few more bikes, and 645 00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: we're expanding our our kids program and when that's what 646 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 1: we're fighting as well. In order to be able to 647 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 1: reach the veteran, you gotta take care of his family, 648 00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: and sometimes that veterans in a certain mindframe. But if 649 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: you could help their family get out the house as 650 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 1: well help their spouse. And that's what we do with 651 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: our recoming trikes. Helped the whole family, and that's how 652 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: it helped the veterans move forward. And and what is 653 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: the kids program exactly. We have the same bicycles that 654 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: we have the three wheels. They're they're just smaller versions, 655 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: but they're recoming trikes. And we also have four wheel bikes. 656 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: Were actually a burg bicycle dealer, so we have these 657 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: far we got an Army Jeep model UH four wheel bicycle. 658 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 1: We have one that fits actually up to a two 659 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: fifty pound person to design for a kid. But it's 660 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: fun when we take the kids bikes and we also 661 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: race those as well. Kids love that type of stuff. 662 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 1: I'm always reminded, or at least it reminds me of 663 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: when I was, you know, I remember getting it was 664 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: either like a birthday present or a Hanuka President of 665 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: the UH, the like miniature Jeep that I remember my 666 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: grandpa got me. There was like video of me screaming, 667 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: Pa got me the Jeep. It was it was like 668 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: the greatest gift I ever got in my life. I'm 669 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: sure there's a VHS somewhere like my parents house to that, 670 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: but I'm sure like these kids love it. And then 671 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: at the same time, you know, I think kids understand 672 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 1: more than we uh sometimes realize, and you can make 673 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: them aware of like, hey, you know, this is what 674 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 1: these guys do to sacrifice for our nation and guys 675 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: who are amputees and all that there's a reason that 676 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: they made that sacrifice and it's important to what kids 677 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: know that that you know, there's people protecting our freedoms 678 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:50,080 Speaker 1: out there. Yeah, and the kids they need to help, 679 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: you know, when their dad's uh you know, working on 680 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 1: themselves going to the different treatments or meetings that they 681 00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: need to overcome their disabilities. The kids gotta be somewhere. 682 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: You know, you can't always bring your kids to the 683 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: v A with you and go to your mental health appointment. 684 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: But you know that's what we're doing here now. You know, 685 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: you can bring your families over to us. We're a 686 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,239 Speaker 1: family organization. You'll see other veterans with their families and 687 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: we're just working on overcoming our self luminity beliefs, and 688 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,120 Speaker 1: our disabilities. I also would assume if you're a veteran 689 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 1: with uh, you know, who's predisposed or any of that 690 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:29,120 Speaker 1: to alcohol or you know, any substances like that, people 691 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,439 Speaker 1: would assume Vegas like not exactly the best place to live. Yeah, 692 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: that and and that's what you know, we all get 693 00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,560 Speaker 1: caught up here when I was medically separated, instead of 694 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: getting the help that I need, you find that help 695 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: in the streets. And that's why we're aspiring out of control. 696 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: That's why we're saying we're ground zero. You know, they 697 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,280 Speaker 1: say that we're Vegas Strong. They raised over twenty million 698 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: dollars for that community when that incident happened. Right, look 699 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: at our veteran community. We're dying daily. We're one of 700 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: the highest suicide rates in the nation. Where's our where's 701 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: our nonprofit? You know? A housing center? You know, we 702 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: we don't have the resources we need at this point. 703 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: We got a billion dollar h you know, a new hospital, 704 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: but there's not even a swimming pool. Where can I 705 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: go for aquatics therapy? Where where can I go? As 706 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: far as personal training, rehabilitation to start overcoming these films, 707 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: physical limitation, it just doesn't exist. Well, well said, Visit 708 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 1: the website Forgotten not Gone dot org. It's got a 709 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,080 Speaker 1: link to all the social media on there. The YouTube 710 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,319 Speaker 1: so you could see you guys riding around and what 711 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: it's all about. I don't know if you have anything else. Um, 712 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: it's been good though, I mean it's it's been educational 713 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: to hear about creative and to hear the testimony from you, 714 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,239 Speaker 1: and and it's just a positive story. I'm glad to 715 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: see that you're doing well and that you diner off 716 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,440 Speaker 1: of all that, because there's way too many veterans we 717 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,240 Speaker 1: hear about. Who are you know, in a via hospital 718 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,319 Speaker 1: somewhere or not leaving bed or just you know when 719 00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,840 Speaker 1: you see the guys on social media just honestly complaining 720 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: all of that, and it's it's yeah, it's good to 721 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: just for my own edifit actian to find out that 722 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: there's this um alternative medicine, because when people come and 723 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,680 Speaker 1: ask me about it or get into conversations about it, 724 00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: I can point them in that direction as as maybe 725 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,919 Speaker 1: maybe that's something that can help them. Yes, certainly, I'm 726 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: working on as we speak. I I just talked to 727 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 1: the people that are Urban Nice last week, so I 728 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: know they're coming out with a CBD blend. But I'm 729 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 1: looking to a partner up and figure out how we 730 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,720 Speaker 1: can get something for our veteran community at a better 731 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 1: pricing point, something that we can market on our website 732 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,879 Speaker 1: to our our our local veterans and make it more 733 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: affordable and attainable for the guys as well. We give 734 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,239 Speaker 1: out samples now, but I like to be able to 735 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:40,600 Speaker 1: make it more affordable as well for our veterans though. 736 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: And you know, last question, actually, you know, I feel 737 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,480 Speaker 1: like you have your bias because you're an advocate for this, 738 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:51,360 Speaker 1: but is there any experience you have of someone that 739 00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: you introduced to creative and they said this It just 740 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 1: isn't for me. I know, you know personally haven't had it. 741 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 1: But again we uh the way that we uh speak 742 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,080 Speaker 1: of Crawdham is in a different light, you know. Again, 743 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: all I'm saying is for you know, over you know, 744 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,120 Speaker 1: four years now, I've taken two pills and rode my bike. 745 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: I've experienced some joy in my life, That's all I'm saying. 746 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: So you know, I couldn't tell you that I didn't 747 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: do that in an oxy code on I did some 748 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: other self destructive measures on that, but this has allowed 749 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: me to start getting some joy and some respect back 750 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 1: in my life. And uh, I'm just grateful that been 751 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: able to get access to a better quality of medicine. Now, 752 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: have you ever gotten off of it for a little 753 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: bit and said, hey, let me see if this is 754 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: all just PU see about? Well, I don't have to 755 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 1: take it every day. I usually reserve it for the 756 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: actual times that I'm writing, and sometimes, like now, I've 757 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,160 Speaker 1: actually taken you know, four caps. At one time, I 758 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: was real cautious and nurse you know about that, you know, 759 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: hearing all the doom and gloom stuff. But you know, 760 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 1: even up to now, when I'm in a lot of pain, 761 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: I'll take four caps and go ride my bike. But 762 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: that's specifically when I'm taking medicine or I have to 763 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: take it. I want to do something after that, you know. 764 00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of people now, I know crowdam 765 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: is now at the bodybuilding show Mr Olympia, they had 766 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 1: a booth over there, and a lot of people start 767 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: to use it as a pre workout. I guess you 768 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,040 Speaker 1: know that that's like the latest buzz, But I've been 769 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 1: doing that four years ago. Just two pills and get 770 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 1: on my bike and go ride with my fellow veterans. 771 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: It's literally that simple. I've done the same thing over 772 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 1: and over and here we are since November two thousand thirteen, 773 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: so it's been a dream come true. Awesome man. Well 774 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on with us, and thanks to your 775 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: wife for setting this up for us. And you know, 776 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: if there's any advancements or anything going on in Vegas 777 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 1: you want a lot us know about, feel free to 778 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 1: get in touch anytime. All right, thank you guys for 779 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 1: your time. I appreciate it. And uh made uh made 780 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: a lord. Bless you guys, and have a wonderful day. 781 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, Peter. Thanks Peter, appreciate it. Keep the faith. 782 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 1: That was good man. You know. Um, I was talking 783 00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: to Joe la Faith, who we just had on recently, 784 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: and he heard me mentioned the creative thing on the show, 785 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: so he was like, let's creative. I don't know anything 786 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,240 Speaker 1: about it, and he's like, I've been seeing it around 787 00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: ever since you mentioned it. I want to know more. 788 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: And all I could say is like, oh, I saw 789 00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,839 Speaker 1: the documentary, but I have no experience with it. I've 790 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 1: never taken it. I can't speak of it positively or negatively. 791 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm aware that I saw a documentary of a guy 792 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 1: who's an advocate for it. You know, if someone puts 793 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: out a documentary for someone who's against it. I will 794 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,400 Speaker 1: watch that as well. But you really can't argue with 795 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: a guy who, like as he said, it was on 796 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,680 Speaker 1: these opioids, was throwing up blood and it is now functioning, 797 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 1: is active, is meeting with other veterans. I mean, it's 798 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: just hard to argue with. Well. I mean I made 799 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,720 Speaker 1: that comparison to you know, medical marijuana, because the same 800 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: thing is that marijuana can be used medicinally to help 801 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,560 Speaker 1: people have conditions who are adversely effects by taking pharmaceuticals. 802 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,240 Speaker 1: So I mean this is something to keep in mind. 803 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,680 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe, uh, you know, instead of taking painkillers 804 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: or some thing, maybe this is an option. I don't know. Yeah, right. 805 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 1: But the crazy thing that he said is the idea 806 00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 1: that the v A say, oh, well, you're no longer 807 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 1: a disabled better and if you're finding alternative ways to 808 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,799 Speaker 1: I mean, if that's the case, I mean that that's 809 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: fucking criminal. That's so wrong it's it's not even funny. Yeah, 810 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,520 Speaker 1: maybe we could investigate that further. I mean that sounds 811 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: like a good investigative piece to me, because that that 812 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,799 Speaker 1: definitely makes I doubt I doubt they would fess up 813 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: to that. Um, if that's what a v A councilor said. 814 00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 1: But if there's other guys out there with Peter's experience 815 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: or people that he could refer us to, uh, you 816 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:37,240 Speaker 1: know and kind of validate that this is happening widespread, 817 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:41,560 Speaker 1: then that's certainly an issue. Yeah. I mean I had 818 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,479 Speaker 1: the when I went to VA for the first time 819 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: actually to get treated for lines disease UM, because I 820 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: caught lines UM not long after I came out of 821 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,440 Speaker 1: the army, and UM, there's a mandatory meeting you have 822 00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,319 Speaker 1: to have with a social worker and I was like, man, 823 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: really okay. So I went in had this meeting with 824 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: her and she was all like, how did you feel 825 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: the first time you took a man's life? And I'm like, okay, 826 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: I'm done here, Like I'm not. Like it was just 827 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 1: too much. She thought I was like fucking Johnny Rambo 828 00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: or something um, And that kind of turned me off 829 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,320 Speaker 1: to v A for quite a while. I've heard similar 830 00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:21,520 Speaker 1: stories from other people who are veterans of actually kind 831 00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 1: of the the opposite type of thing. There's a guy 832 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: who's a the son of a family friend of mine 833 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 1: who was former military and he had to go to 834 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,719 Speaker 1: some therapy and he from what I heard, I was 835 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 1: talking to his father, you know, they he was around 836 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: with these other guys talking about their issues, and he 837 00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: was like, I can't relate to these people, like they 838 00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,200 Speaker 1: haven't seen anything near what I've seen. But then eventually 839 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,760 Speaker 1: he went to another therapy group and someone talked about 840 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: killing a kid while in combat, and he's like, all right, 841 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 1: I've never done anything like that, but at least like 842 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,560 Speaker 1: these people have an idea of what yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 843 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 1: they were in the ship. Um. Well, and I mean 844 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 1: when I did, I did give v A another chance, 845 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 1: uh and went and talked to the shrink at the 846 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,839 Speaker 1: Manhattan Via office here, and um, when I told her 847 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:09,919 Speaker 1: that story about my first experience of the Social worker VA, 848 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 1: she was like horrified. She's like, oh my god. Yeah. Um, 849 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,360 Speaker 1: but but things went much better the second time around. 850 00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: I mean, look, the CEO of this company, Brandon Wabe, 851 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,919 Speaker 1: like he's talked about that yoga has helped him out 852 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: for his back problems. You know, I see guys at 853 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:31,120 Speaker 1: the gym pretty regularly where I go who are amputees. 854 00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: I have no idea if their former military. I haven't 855 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,920 Speaker 1: really talked about it. But you know, they maybe if 856 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: there's anything that's going to help you out, you know, 857 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 1: that's not an opioid, that's not physically addictive, that's that's 858 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: not claiming the wife of people every day. I'm I'm 859 00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,000 Speaker 1: all for it. Whatever you want to do, Yeah, it's 860 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,160 Speaker 1: worth giving it a shot. See if it works for you. 861 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: You know, I had a tremendous amount of back pain 862 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,000 Speaker 1: when I came out of the military those first couple 863 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 1: of years, and um, I went to the caropractor once 864 00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: a week for a year maybe, and then and then 865 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: some more off and on the next year or two, 866 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 1: and um, I don't really have any problems anymore. That's great. 867 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,840 Speaker 1: So I mean, you got to find out what works 868 00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,480 Speaker 1: for you, what's going to get you where you need 869 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,600 Speaker 1: to be. Yeah, and uh, as I said, I've never 870 00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: tried this, but at least from what I've seen, I 871 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: don't think there's anything negative that could happen. I'm certainly 872 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 1: not convinced that, um, you know, a suicide of a 873 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: guy who was taking creative was necessarily connected. I mean, 874 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: it reminds me of when I was a teenager and 875 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: they put me on accutane for acne and I had 876 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,000 Speaker 1: just signed some release about that this causes like suicidal thoughts, 877 00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 1: and it was because one kid in college who was 878 00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,919 Speaker 1: taking an accutane and killed himself. I certainly didn't feel 879 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: any different. Well, taking correlation is not causation, yeah exactly. 880 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 1: But if someone has a successful lawsuit, then you know, 881 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,800 Speaker 1: everybody taking this drug now is to sign a release 882 00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: for him because just to cover their asses. And you know, 883 00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 1: this morning I was watching to do a little bit 884 00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,120 Speaker 1: of research prior to this UM, I was watching uh 885 00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan podcast where they're talking about creat um and 886 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,080 Speaker 1: they're saying, like, like, the creatum is not going to 887 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 1: kill you. You know, it's not dangerous in that regard 888 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,880 Speaker 1: for sure, UM. But the the guy he had on 889 00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 1: the guest he was saying, he's like, you know, when 890 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: we set that bar, like will it kill you or not? 891 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: He's like, man, every anything can kill you. Like you 892 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: can die having sex, you can die taking a crap. 893 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: You get you get to the same point. I mean, 894 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: I guess if you fucking kicks back and smokes create 895 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,760 Speaker 1: um or pops create um pills for a week straight 896 00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: and did nothing else, But I mean, maybe it would 897 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: kill you. I don't know. I mean, who knows. YEA 898 00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,239 Speaker 1: marijuana can't it can't physically kill you. So he was 899 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 1: actually actually brought that up and he said, for marijuana 900 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: to kill you, you you would have to smoke your own 901 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 1: weight in marijuana. So it's just not physically possible. No 902 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: one's ever overdoes it's not. It's not going to kill you. Yeah, 903 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:54,440 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm just glad to bring awareness, uh you 904 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 1: know about this issue. Speaking to Joe Rogan, I can't 905 00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,920 Speaker 1: wait to hear Mike Tyson on the Joe Rogan podcast. 906 00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: Is that he's having him. Yeah, he's been teasing that 907 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,200 Speaker 1: out and I'm excited to hear Mike Tyson on his podcast, 908 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,360 Speaker 1: and I'm excited to hear Kanye West on his podcast. 909 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,479 Speaker 1: Mike Tyson has fucking crazy stories. I read his book. 910 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,960 Speaker 1: It was it was an experience. So even remember when 911 00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: he I think maybe he went on Howard Stern and 912 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,120 Speaker 1: he was talking about prison sex. Yes, he did talk 913 00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 1: about there was a teacher there that he was like 914 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,719 Speaker 1: banging and when they have that, when the guests the 915 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 1: visitors come and they don't check you for cratchlets panties, 916 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: I was like, holy fuck. And Mike Tyson was like 917 00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,040 Speaker 1: treated like a celebrity in jail, so he got away 918 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,759 Speaker 1: with ships. Um. But if you're if you watch that 919 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: documentary and it's on Netflix as well, Tyson, it's a 920 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 1: really good documentary. I would uh, I would definitely recommend it. 921 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: But the crazier stuff happened to him after that documentary. Uh. 922 00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:50,480 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's just had a string of some 923 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: bad walking and a lot of poor decision making. But 924 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 1: remember his his young daughter I think, who was probably 925 00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: maybe four years old, Um, getting choked by the extinction 926 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,000 Speaker 1: cord on a treadmill and dying. Shit. That was shortly 927 00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: after that documentary. So it's just like it was one 928 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: thing after the other for Jesus Christ. Yeah, and he 929 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,160 Speaker 1: seems like a you know, for a guy who was 930 00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 1: so violent and so aggressive, and you know, people have 931 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,960 Speaker 1: their opinion on on whether he is a rapist or 932 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,960 Speaker 1: I mean that's what he went to jail. He was convicted, 933 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: but he was certainly, without a doubt, like a sexually 934 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,880 Speaker 1: aggressive guy. He would say that himself in his book, Uh, 935 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, and inappropriate he's he he doesn't he proclaims 936 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: his innocence, but he's definitely a very overly aggressive guy 937 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: in that manner if you see him now and in 938 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: interviews he seems to have gone like the completely other directions. 939 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,839 Speaker 1: He was like very peaceful guy. He doesn't if it's 940 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,920 Speaker 1: actually why I suggest all you watched the documentary. I 941 00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 1: hope I'm not uh ruining anything here. I guess if 942 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 1: you haven't seen this, he could. This might be a 943 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 1: little bit of a spoiler alert. But they show his 944 00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,680 Speaker 1: last fight and his interview after, and you know, he 945 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:00,480 Speaker 1: he gets beat by some like basically an amateure no 946 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: one's ever heard of, and they're doing the post interview 947 00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,560 Speaker 1: fight and he's just like, yeah, I don't have it 948 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,840 Speaker 1: in me anymore. I did this strictly for the money. 949 00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: I have some bills to pay. I don't have the 950 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,239 Speaker 1: fight in me anymore. You know, I don't think I'm 951 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,240 Speaker 1: gonna do this anymore. It's it's embarrassing for the sport. 952 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 1: And it's like you almost watch just a guy be this, 953 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, admittedly like complete animal too. This that's like 954 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 1: a level of honesty you don't see though, Like you 955 00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 1: don't see like UFC fighters today or boxers today, like 956 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 1: just come out and say ship like that, you know 957 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:33,640 Speaker 1: what I mean? Yeah, I mean, the guy has made 958 00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: between having a manager, Don King, who at least according him, 959 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,520 Speaker 1: stole a great deal of his money. Um, and he 960 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,680 Speaker 1: talks about like in his book, like literally throwing him 961 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,719 Speaker 1: out of a limo, like imagine physically like while the 962 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:51,840 Speaker 1: limo's driving. Um. But between that and then also living 963 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 1: a ridiculously extravagant life where he's like, I want to 964 00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,560 Speaker 1: buy a tiger. I want to buy this from my 965 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,320 Speaker 1: like ship that no one else would even think of buying. 966 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,160 Speaker 1: Who was the other boxer you tell me about? Who? 967 00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:03,880 Speaker 1: Like people on Instagram would be like, why don't you 968 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: go to Dubai, bro? And he'll just get on a 969 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:10,280 Speaker 1: plane and go. I'm trying, I don't know a super 970 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:15,400 Speaker 1: famous guy he fought many was that you're telling Mayweather? Mayweather? Yeah? 971 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather? Uh wasn't it you though? Telling me that? 972 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 1: Like he's like just like his fans on Instagram will 973 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,200 Speaker 1: be like, oh, why don't you go to you know 974 00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: this country of that country? And he'll get on his 975 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 1: private plane and go. Just I mean, I I don't 976 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,239 Speaker 1: think I have no one who mentioned it, but I 977 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't find that hard to believe. He's just got like 978 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 1: stacks of cash. Yeah, and he's very he flaunts all 979 00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 1: of it. You know, that's what a lot of these 980 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:39,359 Speaker 1: guys do. I mean, if I it's weird, we've talked 981 00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 1: about it before. The guy, he is one of those 982 00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,920 Speaker 1: guys who's worth insane amounts of money. But most of 983 00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,600 Speaker 1: the guys at least I've met in my life were 984 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,560 Speaker 1: worth that type of money are the opposite. They're extremely 985 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,239 Speaker 1: low profile. They don't they don't flaun it. I mean, 986 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 1: the big examples I could think of, or when I've 987 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,320 Speaker 1: met Steve Forbes, you would think he is a random 988 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,880 Speaker 1: guy walking the street. He does not have an entourage 989 00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 1: or prior to all the stuff that came out, I 990 00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 1: got to board up Harvey Weinstein and came in by himself. 991 00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,239 Speaker 1: Was a very normal guy, seemed to be at least 992 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:14,320 Speaker 1: seemed to me before all you knew what Harvey Weinstein 993 00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:17,200 Speaker 1: has done. But well, I mean, I had this conversation 994 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,200 Speaker 1: with with my wife a while back. I was like, 995 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,440 Speaker 1: look like, if we hit the lottery, like we're staying 996 00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,320 Speaker 1: in the same apartment, and first off, we're going to 997 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 1: claim the winnings through a private trust. Like no, I'm 998 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,759 Speaker 1: not going to talk to anybody about it. I'm just 999 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,600 Speaker 1: gonna keep doing the normal stuff I do because like 1000 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:36,040 Speaker 1: you get that money, you like, I was raised in 1001 00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:40,479 Speaker 1: a normal middle class household. You know, Um I wasn't 1002 00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,640 Speaker 1: raised that way. Like like having a butler, having someone 1003 00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:46,880 Speaker 1: who like does your dry cleaning, carries your bags, like 1004 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,200 Speaker 1: it just makes me feel weird, Like I don't want 1005 00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,840 Speaker 1: that lifestyle, and I wouldn't want it for my daughter either. 1006 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,000 Speaker 1: And you know, not the people hit the lottery, but 1007 00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:00,120 Speaker 1: I could tell you around where I live, like them 1008 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,759 Speaker 1: in uh you know, Nashal County, Long Island, but like 1009 00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:04,800 Speaker 1: Sands Point, which is right near me, which is like 1010 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:08,239 Speaker 1: all those like mega mansions of Long Island. I see 1011 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:09,920 Speaker 1: a lot of those people every day on the how 1012 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,480 Speaker 1: I r are, and like they do not see them happy. 1013 00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 1: They're like out of shape. They're working themselves to that 1014 00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:17,240 Speaker 1: they're miserable, and they don't even really get to enjoy 1015 00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 1: this massive house that they have or you know, it's 1016 00:53:20,840 --> 00:53:22,680 Speaker 1: like when you have all of that, then you have 1017 00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,200 Speaker 1: to maintain it. And I think that a lot of 1018 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,800 Speaker 1: those people there's just this constant fear of like losing 1019 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:33,760 Speaker 1: it all. Yeah, Bernie made off, Well, that's an extreme example. Yeah. Um, 1020 00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 1: but like I think I was saying on another podcast 1021 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:38,360 Speaker 1: about how like there's all these hedge fund bros and 1022 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 1: stuff who are all into their like preppers, They're all 1023 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,240 Speaker 1: in a survivalism and having their like uh nuclear bunker 1024 00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:48,200 Speaker 1: out in the Pacific Northwest or whatever I think really is. 1025 00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: It's like this fear that like you're just gonna lose 1026 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,520 Speaker 1: all of it, Like the whole facade is just gonna 1027 00:53:53,560 --> 00:53:56,799 Speaker 1: come crumbling down out from under you. Yeah. You know, 1028 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,279 Speaker 1: when I look at um, I don't know if we've 1029 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,040 Speaker 1: ever seen, I mean, google at like Oprah Winfrey's house. 1030 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 1: I know a lot of people would aspire to have 1031 00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 1: something like that. But when I look at it and 1032 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,160 Speaker 1: you have like a you know, full sized movie theater 1033 00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: in your house, full size gym in your house, full 1034 00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 1: sized tennis court, basketball court, and you have no reason 1035 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,600 Speaker 1: to go anywhere, it's kind of weird. I mean, like, 1036 00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:19,840 Speaker 1: I'm pretty introverted. I spend a lot of time alone, 1037 00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:22,759 Speaker 1: but like seeing you when I come in here, going 1038 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,759 Speaker 1: to the gym, talking to people that I regularly get 1039 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,880 Speaker 1: to see and catch up with, Like it's an important 1040 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 1: part of everyday interaction to have all this in my 1041 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,439 Speaker 1: home and just have a staff of people who work 1042 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 1: for me. Would you know they're all probably essentially yes men. 1043 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 1: It's gotta be a weird I don't envy that. Turning 1044 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,320 Speaker 1: to Howard Hughes, you know, yeah, like like Donald Trump, 1045 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,839 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like you're surrounded by people are telling 1046 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 1: you how great you are all the time, how awesome 1047 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,919 Speaker 1: you are, all your decisions are so smart. I mean 1048 00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,080 Speaker 1: that I will go to your head, and I mean 1049 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,400 Speaker 1: it'll go to anybody's head because there's nobody there to 1050 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,120 Speaker 1: be like, hey, dude, you're kind of fucked up right now. 1051 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 1: Maybe you don't want to do that. But even just 1052 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,920 Speaker 1: seeing other people every day it's you know, and here 1053 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,319 Speaker 1: and what they're up to, it's motivating for me. Uh 1054 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:12,000 Speaker 1: you know if I like, part of of the inspiration 1055 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,319 Speaker 1: I get for working out and being able to, like, 1056 00:55:16,080 --> 00:55:19,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, push myself is seeing other people push themselves. 1057 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,439 Speaker 1: If if I did this in my house all the time, 1058 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:24,440 Speaker 1: I don't know, it'd be totally different going going to 1059 00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:26,920 Speaker 1: a movie theater. The part of the experiences you get 1060 00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,799 Speaker 1: to go to dinner with your friends and talk and 1061 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,000 Speaker 1: catch up. Having all of this in my house I 1062 00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:32,879 Speaker 1: just I couldn't really imagine and having a good ball. 1063 00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,640 Speaker 1: So I do agree with you. I think if I 1064 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 1: hit the lottery, I would keep a pretty uh low profile, 1065 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,319 Speaker 1: but it would be a lot of security. But I mean, 1066 00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,360 Speaker 1: I don't know who wouldn't be tempted to buy some 1067 00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,000 Speaker 1: pretty cool ship, not not Mike Tyson style and buy 1068 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:46,879 Speaker 1: like a tiger from my house. But I mean, if 1069 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,280 Speaker 1: if I had the disposable money, it'd be pretty tempting 1070 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,680 Speaker 1: to buy a really awesome car. You wouldn't have the 1071 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:56,120 Speaker 1: baby giraffe, no, uh never land ranch like Michael Jackson. 1072 00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,920 Speaker 1: There's some you know, there's some little perks sure that 1073 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:01,439 Speaker 1: i'd go for make my life a little bit better, 1074 00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,000 Speaker 1: a little bit easier. Uh, probably buy a nice vacation 1075 00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,160 Speaker 1: home somewhere, you know, maybe get the apartment in Paris, 1076 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 1: you know why not like to travel. But um yeah, 1077 00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,359 Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine just living that kind of life. Man, 1078 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 1: it'd be too weird for me. And the things I buy, 1079 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,400 Speaker 1: like the things I get like excited about buying is 1080 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: like like books, like music, stuff Like there's nothing like 1081 00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,359 Speaker 1: I like buying a Rolls Royce, Like what the funk 1082 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,000 Speaker 1: am I going to do with it. You don't even 1083 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,759 Speaker 1: really drive that much. I know you do have a 1084 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:35,200 Speaker 1: car a little. We do have a car and we drive, 1085 00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:38,480 Speaker 1: you know, once in a while. I mean, not not 1086 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,839 Speaker 1: like daily commuting or anything. Though. Yeah, Brooklyn is kind 1087 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,239 Speaker 1: of weird like that, man. And I mean, it's not 1088 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,439 Speaker 1: like living in Manhattan. You know, Brandon's talked about it before. 1089 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 1: It's kind of funny how he's like, I own these planes, 1090 00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:52,440 Speaker 1: who don't own a car living in the city. I mean, 1091 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,279 Speaker 1: I it wasn't my decision. My my wife got the car, 1092 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,840 Speaker 1: um if it was up to me, but probably we 1093 00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't even have it. I mean, it's good to have 1094 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 1: to get outside the city and go here to do 1095 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,919 Speaker 1: this and that, but you really don't want to drive 1096 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,360 Speaker 1: around New York City if you don't have to, you know, 1097 00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,840 Speaker 1: I would agree, man Um wrapping things up here, actually, 1098 00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 1: I want to mention once again we're running a contest 1099 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:18,880 Speaker 1: this week, um and I'll announce a winner on Tuesday. 1100 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,560 Speaker 1: We have these software radio tumblers. I want to give 1101 00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:25,080 Speaker 1: one away, which, as you know Jack saying, coffee thermis 1102 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: um really heavy duty though really nicely made. 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