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Speaker 1: Get ready because class is almost in session. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the TBG University Podcast, tailored for the twenty somethingter who's

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Speaker 1: packing for a new year on campus, thinking through their

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Speaker 1: gap year, enrolling in a community college, grabbing their souls

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Speaker 1: for graduation, and everything in between. I'm your host and

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Speaker 1: tbgu coordinator Jana Ellis.

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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm sorry, Taylor, and I'm the TBG podcast production intern.

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Speaker 2: We'll return to Jana right after the break.

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Speaker 1: On TikTok, you'll often find jokes about how many of

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Speaker 1: us felt like we only had a job as a

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Speaker 1: baristo waiting for us at the end of our four

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Speaker 1: years of college. At times, the post grad job market

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Speaker 1: can seem pretty bleak, which is why today I'm joined

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Speaker 1: by an expert and helping gen Z find jobs to

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Speaker 1: provide some tips on how to navigate this process. Her

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Speaker 1: name is Jade Walters, and she's the founder of the

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Speaker 1: Ninth Semester, a platform that provides weekly career tips plus

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Speaker 1: job postings for an audience of one hundred thousand early

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Speaker 1: career professionals to help them secure the bag and grow

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Speaker 1: in their budding careers. Adding on to that experience, she

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Speaker 1: also works in Candidate marketing as an employer branding specialist

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Speaker 1: at Way up a job board for students and grads.

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Speaker 1: In our conversation today, we discussed some tips for the

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Speaker 1: application and interview process, how to navigate the catch twenty

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Speaker 1: two of needing experience to get a job while also

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Speaker 1: needing a job to get experienced, and ways to keep

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Speaker 1: a pushing when it feels like all you're getting is

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Speaker 1: nos in rejection letters. Here's our conversation. Hi Jade, I'm

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Speaker 1: so excited for all your tips and knowledge that you possess.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm excited for this conversation.

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Speaker 1: Love. So you know that you are the founder of

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Speaker 1: the Ninth Semester, a platform dedicated to helping gen z

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Speaker 1: find jobs. Can you take us back to when you

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Speaker 1: first conceptualize the idea for the ninth Semester? What motivated

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Speaker 1: you to create this platform?

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Speaker 3: So it dates back to March twenty twenty. I was

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Speaker 3: preparing for an internship interview and I went down a

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Speaker 3: and I curated a little posts on Twitter and that

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Speaker 3: So at that time, I was creating content specifically about

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Speaker 3: So I knew that the interview was the most important

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Speaker 3: got closer and closer to my graduation, I had did

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Speaker 3: that for over a year, just sharing a little bit

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Speaker 3: of early career tips on my personal blog love Jay Carson.

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Speaker 3: Once I graduated, I decided that I wanted to create

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Speaker 3: my own blog specifically for it. And even the name

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Speaker 3: the niveth semester really came from. You know when you

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Speaker 3: that knife semester is when you've graduated and you're trying

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Speaker 3: to figure out what is life? How do I be

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Speaker 3: I officially launched in August twenty twenty one, and I

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Speaker 3: chose TikTok because at that time, too TikTok was blowing

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Speaker 3: challenge myself with video content. So at that time, I

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Speaker 3: saw TikTok as a great place. I loved the app.

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Speaker 3: how well it doesn't TikTok. And it's just been an

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Speaker 3: amazing journey. It's going to be three years this August,

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Speaker 1: Congratulations to the three years. That's so amazing. And the

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Speaker 1: name itself is so creative, and I semester quite literally

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Speaker 1: how you framed it, So congrats to you for sure.

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious, can you tell us about the journey

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Speaker 1: of your first job internship? What were some of the

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So, my very very first internship, I was sixteen

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Speaker 3: And it, honestly it surprised him, Like he said, he's

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Speaker 3: And I really do believe that the fact that I've

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Speaker 3: I'm a first generation college student, first generation grad. My

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Speaker 3: And for me, just as I went throughout my career,

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Speaker 3: I just kept that mindset, just like remember fifteen year

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Speaker 3: old sixteen year old Jade, she was not afraid. She

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Speaker 3: So I just go on with that mindset for every opportunity,

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Speaker 3: So I went to Howard, and at Howard, literally you

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Speaker 3: Like I was still on that health field. I was

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Speaker 3: And now we're us are probably on those same paths

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Speaker 1: I love that. Oh my gosh, that's, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: If you redirect that energy in the way you just describe,

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Speaker 1: So I love that framing.

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Speaker 3: I would say, honestly, that spring semester of freshman year,

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Speaker 3: they'll have two day programs or a three week early

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Speaker 3: You're able to guild those relationships started really early on

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Speaker 1: So how can students utilize resources their campus provides, such

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Speaker 3: they're gonna level up and they're gonna bring you right

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00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 3: along with them. Or it could be the other way.

438
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,280
Speaker 3: You can level up and you bring them right along

439
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 3: with you. So don't always be so focused on the

440
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,919
Speaker 3: big picture so early on, Like it takes time, It

441
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 3: really takes time.

442
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Speaker 1: I needed to hear that, And I feel like when

443
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Speaker 1: you're in your night semester, it's a constant back and

444
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 1: forth of recognizing that and then forgetting that, and recognizing

445
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: that and forgetting that. So I appreciate that affirmation for

446
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:30,399
Speaker 1: all of us who are in that state, because as

447
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 1: quickly as you can receive it, you can lose it

448
00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:38,160
Speaker 1: just as fast, So yeah, for sure, I definitely. So

449
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Speaker 1: how can college students gain valuable experience in their field

450
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Speaker 1: despite the catch of needing experience to secure a job?

451
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Speaker 3: That is like the scariest part though, And that is

452
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,359
Speaker 3: a question that I get a lot about. How do

453
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:56,360
Speaker 3: I get experienced off no one will give me experience

454
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 3: And it is a terrible cycle. And my biggest advice

455
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 3: right now to create those experiences for yourself. Like, one

456
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Speaker 3: of the reasons why I created the nine semester is

457
00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,360
Speaker 3: because I got really passionate and excited about working and recruiting,

458
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,080
Speaker 3: specifically early career recruiting, and I started to apply for

459
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,680
Speaker 3: those rose pulls grab I was like, I want to

460
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,400
Speaker 3: do this full time. This is something that I'm really

461
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,119
Speaker 3: passionate about. And I got told know a lot of times,

462
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:20,439
Speaker 3: and it's because I didn't have that experience. Like I

463
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 3: had the passion, the passion, but like no one was

464
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,880
Speaker 3: able to really trust that I was able to get

465
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Speaker 3: the work done. Like I knew I could get the

466
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Speaker 3: work done, but because I hadn't made a name for

467
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 3: myself yet, it was hard to paint that picture. So

468
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Speaker 3: I created this well for two reasons because when I

469
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Speaker 3: was on my early career hunt, my early career journey.

470
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Speaker 3: It was hard and I had a lot of trials

471
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Speaker 3: and tribulations, and I didn't want anyone else to go

472
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Speaker 3: through that. But then also because I wanted to work

473
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Speaker 3: in this industry and I wasn't going to take no

474
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Speaker 3: for an answer, even if it took a while, I

475
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Speaker 3: wasn't going to take no for an answer. And I

476
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Speaker 3: wanted to create this platform because no one will give

477
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Speaker 3: me to see at the table, So I created my

478
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Speaker 3: own table, and the past three years, I've been able

479
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Speaker 3: to do the work that I wanted to do. I've

480
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 3: been able to help connect students with those early career

481
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 3: opportunities and share those tips and keep it all for free.

482
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 3: I'm helping everyone in every industry and giving information that

483
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,159
Speaker 3: could be applicable no matter where you are in your

484
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Speaker 3: early career journey. And it paid off because now I

485
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Speaker 3: currently work at way Up, So if you're familiar with Handshake,

486
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 3: we are also a student job board. And it's very

487
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 3: full circle because this is the work that I wanted

488
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Speaker 3: to do. Fun fact, actually used Way Up in my

489
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Speaker 3: college years, so to be on the back end now

490
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Speaker 3: working here full time, and I'm still able to continue

491
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Speaker 3: the mission and share these different tips and resources for

492
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Speaker 3: students in recent grads. It's been great, and I have

493
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Speaker 3: to think that I'm semester because at the end of

494
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Speaker 3: the day, I knew I wanted to work in this industry,

495
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Speaker 3: and I knew it might take a while, so I

496
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 3: discovered other opportunities that I can do along the way,

497
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Speaker 3: and I still took that time to create this project

498
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 3: that was just for me. And that's why I encourage

499
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Speaker 3: students to start with those freelance projects. Like I know

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Speaker 3: a number of people who have their own marketing and

501
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: branding aid agencies or their own social media agencies because

502
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 3: they wanted to work in this experience and no one

503
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 3: would give them that experience, so they created their own

504
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 3: and at the end of the day, if they do

505
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 3: get a full time role in that industry, they're still

506
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 3: going to have their side project and their agency that

507
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 3: no one can take from them. So when you're your

508
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 3: own boss, literally you call the shots. No one can

509
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 3: tell you what you can do, and you have that

510
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 3: freedom to explore those different opportunities and you can still

511
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Speaker 3: make money from it. There are people who will be

512
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Speaker 3: willing to pay for your services and pay for your expertise.

513
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 3: So don't be worried about, oh what if no one

514
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Speaker 3: wants to work with me. Trust me, there's so many

515
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 3: people in the world. You will have customers, and you

516
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: will grow and you will get that experience that you're

517
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Speaker 3: looking for and you're on your own terms.

518
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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm sorry, Taylor, and I'm the TPG Podcast production intern.

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Speaker 2: We'll return to Jana right after the break.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned handshake and way up. Can you share any

521
00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 1: other platforms and resources you're utilizing to find those job opportunities?

522
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 3: So I'm going to share some like lesser known ones.

523
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 3: There's one called extern so extern they provide paid externships

524
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,159
Speaker 3: with different companies. I know at the top of my

525
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 3: head beats by doctor Dre. They didn't one with Snapchat,

526
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 3: they did one with Meta, they did one with Hugo Boss.

527
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: And these are like what I like to describe as

528
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Speaker 3: baby internships, and they're usually about four to six weeks long.

529
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Speaker 3: If you're struggling to find an internship or you don't

530
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 3: have the bandwidth for internship, externships are a great way

531
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Speaker 3: for you to work on a project in that industry

532
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 3: that you're interested in and see if this is something

533
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 3: that you want to do. And then another platform called

534
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Speaker 3: Parker Dewey and it's very similar. They're micro internships and

535
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 3: with them it's different industries, different mini projects, is all

536
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 3: paid work and all these are little things that you

537
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 3: can help add to your resume and help get that

538
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 3: experience that you're looking for. Another website will be called

539
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 3: job Well. Job wells a job ord specifically for Black,

540
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 3: LATINX and Native American students and they're partnering with companies

541
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 3: who are very serious and dedicated about hiring students in

542
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 3: those demographics. So Parker, Do we extern and job Well

543
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 3: are some great resources to add to your toolkit. And

544
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 3: if you're interested in campus roles too, intern Queen is

545
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 3: a really great website to find campus ambassador roles I

546
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,360
Speaker 3: know right now. They have campaigns with Juicy Contour as

547
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 3: well as some other fashion lines. And then Youth Marketing

548
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 3: Connections another great campus ambassador program where you can find

549
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: different opportunities and campus ambassador programs as well as externships

550
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 3: and micro internships. They're all experiences, they're all things that

551
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 3: you can add on your resume and you can beef

552
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 3: up your resume and get that experience that you're looking for.

553
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 3: And if you just don't have the time for the internships,

554
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 3: because those are usually about eight to ten weeks long,

555
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 3: these are still very valuable projects that will help get

556
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: that exposure that you're looking for to see whether or

557
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 3: not you really want to work in the industry that

558
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 3: you're going after for sure.

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Speaker 1: With the campus ambassador programs, I had a couple friends

560
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: doing it and it was great to watch, but I

561
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: didn't recognize the seeds that they are planting until I graduate,

562
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, that's clearly a marketing strategy, like

563
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: you are a marketer, and in college you just don't

564
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 1: see it sometimes as that. You just see it as

565
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: your friends just doing this brand deal getting some free

566
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: things to talk about. But they're valuable experiences to again

567
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: tell your story, So thank you for dropping all of that.

568
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: Those are dope.

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Speaker 3: And then another thing too with campus ambassador programs, a

570
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,640
Speaker 3: lot of them have mentorship. Once you get in, they

571
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 3: connected with mentors, they connect you with professional development workshops,

572
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 3: and then you're also in this now alumni cohort where

573
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 3: they're regularly sharing opportunities and you're able to build your network.

574
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 3: It's more than you just being a campus ambassador, you

575
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,040
Speaker 3: now have this network of people working in industries that

576
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 3: you're interested in, or like, continuing that I said earlier,

577
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 3: networking horizontally, like you're networking with your peers who are

578
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: also going after the save opportunities. Because for me, I

579
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: was a bumble honey campus ambassador, and I still connected

580
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: with some of the people that I did a program

581
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: with and we're able to pass along opportunities with each other.

582
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Speaker 3: So build that network. Like networking, My biggest thing when

583
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 3: it comes to networking is not about what you know,

584
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 3: it's about who you know. Like those people will speak

585
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 3: your name into rooms that you haven't even entered yet

586
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 3: just because they're able to vouch to who you are

587
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 3: and what you have to offer. So I will prioritize

588
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: in college building your network with your peers, your campus advisors,

589
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 3: your professors. Build your network.

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Speaker 1: Yes, for sure. And earlier we talked slightly about rejection,

591
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Speaker 1: So I'm curious how can people stay motivated to keep

592
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Speaker 1: applying when it feels like they're only receiving rejections.

593
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Speaker 3: Yes, one quote that I really had held close to

594
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Speaker 3: me when I was dealing with a lot of rejections

595
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: because I got so many rejections to the point where

596
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: like I couldn't take it anymore. I was like, what's

597
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 3: going on? Like no, no, no, no, no, Like I

598
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 3: was in an application and I'll get a know in

599
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 3: an hour, and I'm like, did you even be my application?

600
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 3: But I really had to remind myself, as corny as

601
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: it is said, that rejection is redirection. Like every no

602
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 3: you're getting there could be a reason behind that, know

603
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: that you don't even know, or a reason behind that

604
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 3: know that has nothing to do with you as an individual.

605
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 3: It's painful and it hurts to just keep getting told no.

606
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 3: But like sometimes you really just be like, oh, it's

607
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 3: not me as that I'm not a problem, You're the problem.

608
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 3: And for me, what I used to do when I

609
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 3: would get knows because you can tell I wanted to know.

610
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Speaker 3: When you see the email, I delete that. I'm not

611
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 3: even gonna click it. I'm not going to read it.

612
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna protect my piece. So just have to

613
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: remind yourself that you will get a yes. There is

614
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 3: something for everyone in this world. And sometimes some of

615
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,000
Speaker 3: those things where you got to know before you find

616
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 3: out the reason down the line, Like I remember there

617
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 3: were times I was applying for companies and I kept

618
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: getting told no, just for weeks later a scandal to

619
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: come out about the company or they did a mass layoffs,

620
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh, that's why you told me no,

621
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: because you're not actually hiring, and you're stating the business

622
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 3: is on fire right now. So do anything you can

623
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 3: and protect your peace, even if you need to take

624
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 3: a break from applying for like one week and just

625
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: tune into doing all of your favorite things, distract yourself,

626
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: and then when you come back, you're seeing like hot opportunities.

627
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 3: You're seeing things that didn't pop up before, because sometimes

628
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: you're really gonna step away and then come back and

629
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 3: you're going to find what is meant for you exactly.

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Speaker 1: For sure, I saw somebody on LinkedIn one day post

631
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Speaker 1: after seven thousand applications, two hundred thousand days. It was

632
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: just like that type of framing is so discouraging on

633
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: top of receiving rejections, like I don't want to know

634
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: how someone can stay motivated like the thought of that.

635
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 1: So it takes real disturbment of what is meant for

636
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: you is for you and a true path to get

637
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: to where you're headed. But the courage it takes to

638
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: do that is insane sometimes.

639
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 3: And I would tell people to, like when you see

640
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 3: posts like that, take them to green Salt because some

641
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: people be lying like they did not send all the applications,

642
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 3: like they're just trying to make it seem crazier than

643
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 3: what it is. And also some people use automation to

644
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 3: send applications, so like their mass applying to everything, even

645
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,719
Speaker 3: thing that they're not qualified for. So that's how it

646
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,360
Speaker 3: adds to the number. But like, just keep in mind

647
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: that not everything you see in the Internet would be true,

648
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 3: but what is meant for you is meant for you,

649
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 3: and it will find you like that dream role that

650
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 3: you might have thought was your dream role whole time.

651
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: The company is not a great place to work at

652
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 3: and you don't need that when you're a new grad.

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Speaker 3: You need to be somewhere where you have that room

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Speaker 3: to explore and that room to grow and people who

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Speaker 3: are willing to pour into you like it's your nine semester.

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Speaker 3: You're still figuring things out. You need to be somewhere

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Speaker 3: where it is a safe space for you to figure

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Speaker 3: that out and you're surrounded by people who are willing

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Speaker 3: to help you.

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Speaker 1: I love it, all of it. So an important consideration

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Speaker 1: when applying for a job postgrad is how this job

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Speaker 1: can fund your lifestyle, particularly students who are hoping to

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Speaker 1: move into their own spaces and begin living independently. How

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Speaker 1: can someone begin to calculate how much money they may

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Speaker 1: need to make in order to begin living in quote

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Speaker 1: unquote the real world.

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Speaker 3: I definitely recommend, like, depending on where you want to

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Speaker 3: move to, to start looking and just seeing how the

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Speaker 3: cost of living is there, especially like when it comes

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Speaker 3: to apartments, because I was in that same boat. I

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Speaker 3: went to school in DC. I was born and raised

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Speaker 3: in Brooklyn, but I wanted to move to Chicago, which

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Speaker 3: is where I live now, so I tarted to do

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Speaker 3: my research on what life would be like to live

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Speaker 3: in a big city. And as much as I love

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Speaker 3: New York and I would have loved to be their

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Speaker 3: postgrid is too expensive I and I didn't want to

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Speaker 3: live in a shoebox, so I wanted to really take

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Speaker 3: my time to be somewhere where I could. You know,

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Speaker 3: this is a new chapter in your life, so I

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Speaker 3: would recommend to start looking into just how the cost

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Speaker 3: of living is there, and then from there start to

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Speaker 3: do some calculations if you want to live alone, or

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Speaker 3: if you want to live with a roommate, or if

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Speaker 3: you have pets, like calculating those expected expenses that you

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Speaker 3: would have, and then from there. What I really love

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Speaker 3: now is that depending on some states I can't remember

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Speaker 3: off the top of head, but I know New York

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Speaker 3: is one of them, some states have to state how

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Speaker 3: much the salary is up for so making sure that

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Speaker 3: when you're on that job plan that you had that

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Speaker 3: salary bands in mine and you know, okay, I need

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Speaker 3: to make this amount of year to live comfortably in

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Speaker 3: this new city. So making sure that you're not applying

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Speaker 3: for roles where it's not hitting your salary expectations.

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Speaker 1: For sure, like reading into the details and taking your time.

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Speaker 1: Take your time, for sure. So what are there are

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Speaker 1: some tips for navigating shame over not having a job

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Speaker 1: set up immediately after graduation.

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Speaker 3: It kind of goes back into what I was saying

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Speaker 3: earlier about not comparing yourself, because I remember I did

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Speaker 3: feel that shame too, Like I had graduated and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I don't have a job. I knew so many people

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Speaker 3: who literally graduated they had a job lined up, they

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Speaker 3: were starting in the next month. And it's hard. It

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Speaker 3: really is hard. It's easier said than done to not

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Speaker 3: feel that shame. But if you are in a position

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Speaker 3: where you have a very supportive family and you have

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Speaker 3: those people in your life who can support you during

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Speaker 3: this transition, lead into that support and do whatever you

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Speaker 3: need to do to support yourself, whether that's you taking

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Speaker 3: a retail job or taking an hourly job just to

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Speaker 3: get some sort of income. Do what you need to do.

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Speaker 3: So when you get to that position where you want

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Speaker 3: to be, you've taken the steps, you've done the process

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Speaker 3: along the way to get there, and you're not on

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Speaker 3: this continuous comparison game. But it's easier to them, but

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Speaker 3: you really just got to know everybody. Like I remember

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Speaker 3: there was a point where I could not go on

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Speaker 3: LinkedIn because every time I went on LinkedIn, everyone was

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Speaker 3: posting their new jobs or sharing their new opportunities, and

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Speaker 3: I had no job and I had nothing to share.

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Speaker 3: So I had to really take that break from LinkedIn

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Speaker 3: at that time because I knew when I go there

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Speaker 3: it was going to disturb my spirit. So if you

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Speaker 3: had to delete LinkedIn off your phone or just only

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Speaker 3: use it specifically to job hunt and update your profile.

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Speaker 3: Do that as well as just taking that time for yourself.

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Speaker 3: Don't just spend hours all day applying for jobs because

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Speaker 3: you're gonna drive yourself math. Make sure that you set

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Speaker 3: certain blocks of your day to job apply, but then

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Speaker 3: also certain blocks to like pour back into yourself and

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Speaker 3: do your favorite hobbits Like I remember, for me, I

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Speaker 3: love Sims, So I was playing Sims a lot during

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Speaker 3: that time period because that was a way for me

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Speaker 3: to unwind and turn off my brain and relax and

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Speaker 3: just give myself that hug and just that comfort to know, Okay,

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Speaker 3: it's coming. It's not now, but it's coming soon. And

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Speaker 3: really just a lot of affirmations, Like I was filling

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Speaker 3: up my journal with affirmations, just reminding myself like it's coming.

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Speaker 3: What I want is coming, and I know that I'm

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Speaker 3: putting into work to do it. Like I'm not just

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Speaker 3: saying these affirmations and not doing the work. I'm doing

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Speaker 3: the work too. So affirm yourself and remind yourself that

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Speaker 3: where you're at right now, this is for now, but

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Speaker 3: it's not forever.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I feel like we just had a servant with

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Speaker 1: that one, and that with that one, for sure, I

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Speaker 1: love everything you have said. Going back to your former point,

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Speaker 1: like going on LinkedIn, sometimes it's the most self sabotaging

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Speaker 1: act ever, and while you want to support your peers,

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Speaker 1: it can just feel so heavy to do the congratulations

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Speaker 1: and like when you want to be in that space.

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Speaker 1: It's a lot, and no one really talks about that.

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Speaker 1: The comparison in college is intense, but the postcard comparison,

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Speaker 1: especially your senior year, transitioning that summer and you see

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Speaker 1: everyone going to the big companies and moving to the cities,

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Speaker 1: that's also hard. So to your point, just providing yourself

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Speaker 1: that compassion in that space to like feel how you

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Speaker 1: feel and take a step away from it, and not

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Speaker 1: to indulge yourself in that comparison journey because it's not

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Speaker 1: for you at all.

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Speaker 3: Giving yourself grace. I'm hard on myself just because I

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Speaker 3: know my potential, but over the years I had to

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Speaker 3: work on giving myself grace and just understanding like everyone's

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Speaker 3: journey and their path is different. I don't have any

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Speaker 3: regrets of how I've made my career journey so far

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Speaker 3: because it was not traditional in any sense, but I

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Speaker 3: had to understand that this path was uniquely for me,

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Speaker 3: everything that I have done postgrad and even in college,

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Speaker 3: everything I've done has brought me to this moment right now.

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Speaker 3: The fact that I'm on this episode with you now

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Speaker 3: is because every step I took brought me here. So

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Speaker 3: just reminding yourself, it's hard to see the end goal

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Speaker 3: now when things are not looking right, but like when

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Speaker 3: you're there, when you're in the places where you manifested

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Speaker 3: to being, You're going to be like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: everything I did to get up here, no matter how

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Speaker 3: or how painful it was, it worked out in the end,

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Speaker 3: because it always does. Like it literally always works out

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Speaker 3: in the end.

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Speaker 1: I love all of this. So that close us out.

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Speaker 1: Where can we keep up with you? What are your

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Speaker 1: social media handles?

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Speaker 3: Yes, so to keep up with me, you can find

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Speaker 3: me on TikTok and Instagram. At the ninth semester, as

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Speaker 3: well as on LinkedIn. At Jade Walters, I post weekly

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Speaker 3: early career tips and job opportunities. Right now, I'm in

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Speaker 3: a wave where I'm getting folks prepare for the fall,

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Speaker 3: so I'll be pushing out some weekly roundups of fall

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Speaker 3: internships apply for as well as for the new grads.

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Speaker 3: I'm still going to be sharing my entry level roles

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Speaker 3: that I come across as well as rotational programs for

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Speaker 3: them to check out. And you can also find me

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Speaker 3: on my website ww dot the ninth Semester dot com.

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Speaker 1: Love definitely check out her LinkedIn. It's amazing. Well, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much day for talking with me today.

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Speaker 2: All your insight.

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Speaker 1: It was so great.

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Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, thank you so much for having me,

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Speaker 3: and I'm wishing everyone the best of luck on their

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Speaker 3: job journey. Like, if I could leave one piece of advice,

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Speaker 3: do not tell yourself no before anyone else can tell

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Speaker 3: you no. Like if you see an opportunity and you

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Speaker 3: really and truly feel like you can do this job, apply,

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Speaker 3: don't let imposter syndrome get in a way. Don't let

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Speaker 3: any negative thoughts get in a way. Put yourself out

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Speaker 3: there because you literally never know what could happen. Like,

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Speaker 3: don't tell yourself no before anyone else can tell you no.

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Speaker 1: Period. I want to thank Jade once again for joining

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Speaker 1: us for this episode. Class is over for now, but

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Speaker 1: before we dismiss, here as some affirmations to take home

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Speaker 1: with you. The job that is meant for you is yours.

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Speaker 1: Any knows that you receive are simply to prepare you

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Speaker 1: for all of the abundance that is to come. Your

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Speaker 1: journey is uniquely yours, designed to lead you to the

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Speaker 1: best version of yourself. But see your plan now will

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Speaker 1: blossom into the most beautiful pathways you can imagine. To

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Speaker 1: learn more about the work Jada is doing, or to

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Speaker 1: do more research on this topic, be sure to visit

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Speaker 1: Therapy for Blackgirls dot com slash tvgu This episode was

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Speaker 1: produced by Elise Ellis and Zaria Taylor. Editing is by

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Speaker 1: Dennison Bradford.